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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING FOR AUGUST 5TH, 2025. LET ME JUST OPEN WITH SOME COMMENTS. TODAY'S AGENDA FEATURES AN ITEM TO CONSIDER AND ORDER THE COURT CALLING A VENUE TAX ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. WE HAVE TAKEN SOME EXCEPTIONAL STEPS TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT.

I WANT TO THANK OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE AND OUR BEXAR COUNTY IT FOR IMPLEMENTING THOSE MEASURES OF NOTICE.

WE WILL ALSO HAVE A TIME CERTAIN CONSIDERATION OF THIS ORDER AT 11 A.M..

SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE MONITORING THE AGENDA AND ARE IN PUBLIC, AND THOSE THAT WANT TO KNOW WHEN THAT MATTER WILL COME UP, IT IS TIME CERTAIN. 11:00 BEGINNING WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THOSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM, PLEASE NOTE WE WILL PLAN FOR A BRIEF BREAK THIS AFTERNOON FOR LUNCH BEFORE RETURNING TO COMPLETE THE MEETING.

SO IT IS MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE BISHOP MICHAEL PFEIFFER.

[1. Opening Prayer: Bishop Michael D. Pfeifer, OMI ]

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME BISHOP MICHAEL PFEIFFER, BISHOP EMERITUS OF THE DIOCESE OF SAN ANGELO.

MISSIONARY OBLATES OF MARY MACKILLOP. BISHOP.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. IF YOU COULD HELP BISHOP COME TO THE PODIUM IN 1980.

1981. BISHOP MIKE WAS APPOINTED PROVINCIAL SUPERIOR, THE FORMER US SOUTHERN PROVINCE, IN 1985.

THEN FRIAR MIKE WAS CHOSEN TO BE THE BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE OF SAN ANGELO, TEXAS, WHERE HE BECAME THE FIRST OBLATE TO LEAD A DIOCESE IN THE UNITED STATES.

HE HAS LED MANY MINISTRIES IN MEXICO, SPEARHEADED MISSIONS IN AFRICA, LED THE LARGEST DIOCESE IN TEXAS, WHICH SPANNED 29 WEST TEXAS COUNTIES, IS. AND NOW WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE BISHOP MIKE CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY SERVE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AMONG THE OBLATES. BISHOP I CONSIDER TO BE A FRIEND. ALSO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WE'RE CONNECTED AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A RIO GRANDE VALLEY NATIVE. YOUR. I BELIEVE GERMAN RELATIVES WERE SOME OF THE FIRST FARMERS IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY AS MY FAMILY.

THE JAPANESE FAMILIES WERE ONE OF THE FIRST FARMERS IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY.

SO WE HAVE SHARED STORIES OF GROWING UP AT THE FARM.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, BISHOP, YOU MOVED OFF THE FARM AND WENT TO GREATER PLACES.

AND I SUPPOSE I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU. OKAY. BUT OBVIOUSLY, BISHOP, YOUR YOUR YOUR MISSIONARY EXPERIENCE AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS EXTRAORDINARY. I HAVE A PRIVILEGE TO CALL YOU A FRIEND.

AND AS A RESULT, BISHOP, WOULD YOU SAY A LITTLE EXTRA PRAYER FOR THE COURT THIS MORNING? WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF ROBUST DISCUSSION, AND I WANT YOU TO PRAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT ALTHOUGH WE MAY HAVE DISAGREEMENTS, LET'S AGREE TO DISAGREE AND STAY UNITED AS A COMMUNITY AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

WOULD YOU DO THAT FOR ME, BISHOP? MIKE. DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? LET'S PLEASE STAND FOR PRAYER. THANK YOU. JUDGE, YOU KNOW MY HISTORY BETTER THAN I DO.

AND GOOD MORNING TO ALL AND GOD'S PEACE FOR ALL.

BUENOS DIAS, LA PAZ DE DIOS PARA TODOS. AND IT IS AN HONOR TO BE INVITED BY GOOD JUDGE PETER SAKAI, MY FRIEND AND HIS WIFE RACHEL, TO OFFER THIS PRAYER FOR THEM AND THE COURT COMMISSIONERS WHO BEGIN THEIR MEETING THIS MORNING, AND TO PRAY FOR ALL WHO ARE PRESENT HERE. JUDGE SACCHI, AS HE MENTIONED, AND OUR ARE GOOD FRIENDS.

ALSO HIS WIFE AND HE MENTIONED THAT WE BOTH HAVE FAMILY ROOTS IN SOUTH TEXAS, KNOWN AS THE BEAUTIFUL RIO GRANDE VALLEY. SO LET US PRAY. WE PRAY WITH CONFIDENCE AND TRUST TO OUR LOVING AND KIND GOD, TO WHOM WE GIVE PRAISE, WORSHIP, AND GLORY, AND ON WHOM WE TOTAL DEPEND AND ASKED FOR HIS BLESSING OF NEW WISDOM, PEACE, COURAGE, JUSTICE, AND LOVE AND JOY. UPON UPON OUR COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

THE LEADERS OF OUR BEXAR COUNTY, AS THEY BEGIN THEIR MEETING ON HOW BEST TO SERVE OUR COUNTY WITH HIS PEOPLE.

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER. FIRST, WITH GRATEFUL HEARTS, WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THEM FOR HAVING ACCEPTED THE RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY OF BUILDING UP THE LIFE AND SPIRIT OF OUR COUNTY, AND FOR THE DEDICATED SERVICE THEY GIVE TO ENRICH THE LIVES OF ALL OF OUR PEOPLE. SO I ASK THAT WE PAUSE IN OUR PRAYER FOR A

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MINUTE TO THANK OUR JUDGE AND COUNTY LEADERS FOR THE GOOD SERVICE WE OFFER.

THEY OFFER US, AND TO LET THEM KNOW WE SUPPORT THEM WITH OUR PRAYERS AND GIVE THEM A BIG APPLAUSE FOR ACCEPTING TO LEAD US. LET'S GIVE THEM A BIG, BIG APPLAUSE.

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE OFFER OUR HUMBLE AND TRUSTFUL PRAYER TO YOUR LOVING GOD, WE ARE REMINDED OF YOUR COMMAND AND YOUR HOLY WORD IN THE BIBLE THAT WE SHOULD PRAY FOR ALL THOSE IN AUTHORITY WHO ULTIMATELY CARRY OUT THE AUTHORITY THAT COMES FROM YOU. SO WE PRAY THAT YOUR AGENDA OR COUNCIL WILL ALWAYS BE THE AGENDA OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TO FULFILL YOUR WILL FOR YOUR PEOPLE OF YOUR COUNTY, HELPING ALL OF US TO GROW IN PEACE, JUSTICE AND LOVE AND SERVICE FOR ONE ANOTHER.

SO, LOVING GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THEM TODAY AND EVERY DAY AND POURED OUT UPON THESE LEADERS.

YOUR BLESSING OF WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE AND COURAGE AND FOLLOW AND IMITATE CHRIST JESUS, WHO IS TRUE GOD AND TRUE MAN, AND WHO IS THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE KING AND RULER OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE.

MAY OUR JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS AND ALL OF US REALIZE WHAT IS THE TRUE MEANING OF LEADERSHIP YOU WANT FOR YOUR PEOPLE.

MAY OUR LEADERS CARRY OUT THEIR AUTHORITY NOT ON THE MODEL OF LEADERSHIP THAT IS BASED ON THE LOVE OF POWER, WHICH WANTS TO CONTROL AND DOMINATE AND IS FILLED WITH SUCH PRIDE, BUT RATHER MAY THEY ALWAYS BASE THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THE MODEL OF AUTHORITY, AS EXEMPLIFIED BY YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST, WHICH IS THE LEADERSHIP THAT IS BASED ON THE POWER OF LOVE, NOT ON THE LOVE OF POWER. AND WE ASK THAT THE POWER OF LOVE TODAY FILL THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS AND DECISIONS AS THEY CARRY OUT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROMOTE ALL HUMAN LIFE FROM US, BEGINNING AT CONCEPTION TILL IT'S NATURAL IN AS DETERMINED BY YOU, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. MAY THEY ALWAYS RESPECT.

MAY THEY ALWAYS PROMOTE RESPECT FOR EACH PERSON AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTY, WHO ARE ALL MADE IN YOUR VERY IMAGE AS THEY CARRY OUT THEIR SERVICE FOR YOUR PEOPLE BASED ON THE POWER OF LOVE.

AND MAY THEY ALWAYS PROMOTE THE COMMON GOOD AND FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

MAY THESE LEADERS ALSO BASE ALL THEIR DECISIONS ON YOUR ETERNAL TRUTH AND LOVE, AND NOT ON THE FLEETING MOMENT, AS THEY ALWAYS TRY TO PROMOTE PEACE AND JUSTICE IN ALL ITS DIMENSIONS THAT MAKE UP THE LIFE FOR YOUR PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY.

AND MAY THIS IN TURN INSPIRE THEM IN ALL OF US TO REACH OUT IN CHARITY AND HELP THE MOST NEEDY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

LORD, MAY YOUR NEIGHBORS LEADERS ALWAYS HAVE THE VISION TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE WONDERFUL GIFT OF CREATION THAT SURROUNDS US ON PLANET EARTH, AND PROVIDES US WITH ALL WE NEED TO LIVE, AND TO INSPIRE OUR LEADERS AND ALL OF US TO TEACH HOW TO BETTER BE CARETAKERS OF OUR COMMON HOME, WHICH IS MOTHER EARTH.

AND MAY OUR LEADERS ALWAYS PROMOTE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT WILL BUILD UP AND STRENGTHEN MARRIAGE AND FAMILY LIFE, WHILE PROMOTING THE UNITY OF PEACE THAT YOU WANT FOR ALL IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND MAY THESE LEADERS SHOW A SPECIAL CONCERN FOR MOTHERS AND THEIR CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY ABANDONED CHILDREN FOR THE SICK AND THE SUFFERING, AND PROVIDE EDUCATION FOR ALL OF OUR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR YOUNG ONES, AND PROVIDE CARE FOR THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS.

AND MAY OUR LEADERS ALWAYS PROMOTE LEGISLATION THAT WILL HELP OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO GROW AND PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. MAY THESE LEADERS PROMOTE AND TEACH US HOW WE ARE TO OVERCOME VIOLENCE, WHICH DISTURBS AND WEAKENS THE UNITY AND PEACE THAT YOU WANT FOR ALL OF US LOVING GOD OUR FATHER. AS WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR OUR JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS OF THIS COURT.

WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR ALL THE VICTIMS OF THE TERRIBLE DISASTER IN KERRVILLE, TEXAS, AS WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR PEACE IN OUR WORLD,

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IN OUR COUNTRY AND COUNTY. BUILT ON JUSTICE AS WE STRIVE TO FOLLOW THE SOUND TEACHING OF JESUS, OUR MASTER AND MODEL WHO SAID HE CAME NOT TO BE SERVED, BUT TO SERVE GOD AND GOD.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE COUNTLESS BLESSINGS OF YOUR LOVE AND COMPASSION YOU HAVE GIVEN TO OUR LEADERS AND THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTY.

MAY ALL STRIVE TO SHARE THIS LOVE AND KINDNESS WITH ONE ANOTHER, SO THAT WE CAN SAY, WE ARE YOUR TRUE CHILDREN AND FOLLOWERS OF YOU, OUR LORD, FROM WHOM WE ALL DEMAND, ALL DEPEND.

AS WE SAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. AND I END BY RECALLING.

FOR TO YOUR MINDS THE COMMANDMENT. FOR GOD TELLS US I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD.

YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME. AND JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I HAVE HERE A MEDAL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR EACH ONE OF YOU BLESSED BY THE CROSS GIVEN TO ME BY POPE SAINT JOHN PAUL THE SECOND.

TO HELP AND GUIDE YOU IN ALL YOU DO. MAY I COME UP? YES. YES YOU MAY. THANK YOU. THANK GOD. THANK YOU. OH. YOU OKAY? YOU OKAY? I GOT ONE.

THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

TAKE OVER. WELL, WE'LL LET THE HOLY SPIRIT. THANK YOU.

BISHOP. WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN ME, BISHOP, IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BISHOP. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

OKAY. I'LL ASK THAT THIS STATEMENT, ELIZABETH, BE MADE PART OF TODAY'S RECORD.

[Additional Item]

OKAY. YEAH. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT, PERSONAL PRIVILEGE MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOMEONE THAT WE LOST RECENTLY.

I KNOW AT THE END OF THE COURT MEETINGS, WE USUALLY DO THIS WHEN THE COURTROOM IS EMPTY.

BUT WE LOST A VERY SPECIAL PERSON. AN ARTIST HERE.

HOMEGROWN FLACO JIMENEZ. THIS LAST WEEK. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIS INFLUENCE.

HE DIED ON JULY 31ST, JUST ABOUT A WEEK AGO AT THE AGE OF 86.

HE WAS A GRAMMY AWARD WINNING ACCORDIONIST AND SINGER KNOWN FOR HIS TEJANO AND NORTENO TUNES.

ONE OF THE GODFATHERS OF CONJUNTO. HE'S BEING REMEMBERED AS A MEMBER OF THE SUPERGROUPS.

THE TEXAS TORNADOS LOST SUPER SEVEN, A BUNCH OF OTHER MAJOR HITS, AND SOMEONE THAT'S HAD A SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE HERE IN OUR CULTURE IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE HIM. I KNOW ONE OF HIS FAMOUS SONGS IS THERE IS NO BEER IN HEAVEN.

THAT'S WHY WE DRINK IT ALL HERE. I HAVE A FEELING THAT HE FOUND SOME MILLER LIGHTS UP THERE AT SOME POINT.

I'M SURE HE DID. SO IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND BLESS HIS FAMILY AND AND UPLIFT THEM.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL START WITH CEREMONY ITEMS.

[3. CEREMONIAL ITEM(S)]

OUR FIRST PRESENTATION TO SERVICE RECOGNIZE EMPLOYEES FOR 25 PLUS YEARS OF SERVICE.

I'LL ASK THAT RICHARD G. LOPEZ, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

YOU'RE WITH THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT.

SO IF YOU, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR COLLEAGUES. YOUR SUPERVISORS.

THE CHIEF IS THE CHIEF HERE? THERE'S THE CHIEF.

HELLO, CHIEF. GOOD MORNING. CHIEF GIL MOTTA. GOOD MORNING JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE SO PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE TO HONOR RICHARD IN HIS 25 YEARS.

WHEN WE HAVE EMPLOYEES LIKE RICHARD. THAT'S WHAT KEEPS US RUNNING THE WAY THAT WE DO.

HE'S BEEN DEDICATED. AND I'VE ASKED HIS HIS DEPUTY CHIEF IS HERE AS WELL AS HIS SUPERVISOR.

HE'S IN THE INTAKE UNIT. ONE THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT HIM IS HE STARTED.

RICHARD STARTED IN DETENTION AS A AS A WORKER WITH CHILDREN.

AND WORKED HIS WAY UP. HE GOT HIS COLLEGE DEGREE WHILE HE WAS HERE WORKING IN THE COUNTY FULL TIME.

AND THEN HE WAS PROMOTED OVER TO THE INTAKE UNIT AS A PROBATION OFFICER.

AND HE'S REMAINED THERE AND WORKED HIS WAY UP THE RANKS TO ASSISTANT SUPERVISOR.

HE ACTUALLY WORKS THE MIDNIGHT SHIFT, SO IT'S EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN THAT.

HE'S HERE WITH US NOW BECAUSE THAT'S SHIFT WORK.

AND SO ALL OF HIS COLLEAGUES WOULD BE HERE WITH HIM, EXCEPT THAT THEY'RE EITHER ASLEEP OR WORKING.

AND IT'S A 24 HOUR OPERATION. SO. SO WE'RE SO HAPPY.

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AND HIS HIS FAMILY'S HERE, HIS BEAUTIFUL FAMILY, HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK SUZANNE HANLON, HIS DEPUTY CHIEF, TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

THANK YOU. IT IS MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE WITH RICHARD, TO CELEBRATE WITH HIM THIS AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENT.

I HAVE KNOWN RICHARD FOR PROBABLY OVER 20 YEARS NOW, AND SO IT'S EVEN MORE SPECIAL TO BE WITH HIM HERE, WITH HIS WIFE, HIS FAMILY AND SUPERVISOR AND CHIEF.

HE DID BEGIN HIS CAREER WITH US IN 2000, MAY 2000, WHEN HE WAS HIRED AS A JUVENILE DETENTION OFFICER, ONE AS CHIEF STATED. HE WAS PROMOTED IN MARCH 2001, WHERE HE REMAINED UNTIL HE WAS PROMOTED TO THE INTAKE UNIT IN SEPTEMBER 2010.

HE PROGRESSED THROUGH THE RANKS, AND HE EVENTUALLY WAS PROMOTED TO ASSISTANT SUPERVISOR IN 2021, WHERE HE REMAINS AT THAT CURRENT POSITION. AS SHE STATED WHILE HE WAS WITH US.

HE EARNED HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF INCARNATE WORD IN EDUCATION IN 2008.

HE HAS BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF MULTIPLE LETTERS OF APPRECIATION AND ACCOMMODATION TO INCLUDE EMPLOYEE EXCELLENCE AWARD IN 2021, AND WE ARE SO HAPPY AND APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR DEDICATION TO THE YOUTH AND FAMILIES THAT WE SERVE.

AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT. THANK YOU.

RICHARD, WOULD YOU HAVE A FEW WORDS? WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOUR FAMILY? I BELIEVE IT IS WITH YOU. AND I HAVE MY WIFE, DIANA LOPEZ.

MY DAUGHTER, RIHANNA LOPEZ AND MY SON, ELLIOT.

SO. YEAH. SO IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH THESE KIDS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM ARE DISADVANTAGED. AND TO TO HELP THEM THROUGH TOUGH TIMES WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR UNIT.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT JOY FOR ME. SO I'VE ENJOYED IT, AND I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH IT.

THANK YOU. RICHARD. LET'S GIVE ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE. WHY DON'T YOU COME FORWARD? WHY DON'T YOU COME FORWARD TO RECEIVE YOUR PEN? RICHARD, BRING YOUR FAMILY. AND COULD WE TAKE A PICTURE WITH EVERYBODY THERE? THERE'S YOUR 25 YEAR PEN. THEY'RE THE SAME DEPARTMENT FOR 25 YEARS.

YES. THAT'S RIGHT. AND YOU'RE. YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ANOTHER 25 YEARS, RIGHT, RICHARD? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. READY FOR. ONE MORE.

THANK YOU. AND DOES THAT INCLUDE YOU, MISS MARTHA? ARE YOU GOING TO STAY IN THAT 25 YEARS? YEAH.

OKAY. YOU WILL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S TEE UP. LET'S HAVE STEPHANIE INƉS GONZALEZ, 25 YEARS TAX ASSESSOR.

MR. USD, BRING STEPHANIE, HER FAMILY, HER COLLEAGUES.

OH, BOY. WE GOT WE GOT A LITTLE ENTOURAGE HERE.

WELL, AS YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S OFFICE DOES SOMETHING, WE DO IT IN A BIG WAY, SIR. OKAY, SO THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR OF BEING HERE TODAY.

I'M HAPPY TO BE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY, MISS STEPHANIE TIFFANY GONZALEZ FOR HER 25 YEAR PAN.

STEPHANIE STARTED OUT IN JUNE OF 2000 WITH THE DA'S OFFICE AND QUICKLY MOVED TO THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S OFFICE IN NOVEMBER OF 2000 AS THE OFFICE ASSISTANT TO THE PROPERTY TAX DIRECTOR.

IN 2004, SHE WAS PROMOTED TO ASSISTANT PROCESSOR TECHNICIAN, AND THEN IN 2009 TO A LEAD PROCESSOR.

IN 2017, SHE BECAME A SUPERVISOR IN THE PROPERTY TAX DEPARTMENT, WORKING IN THE ASSESSING AND PAYMENT PROCESSING SECTIONS.

IN FEBRUARY OF 22, STEPHANIE BECAME THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC INFORMATION AND SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY, TODAY OVERSEEING THE INFORMATION CENTER AND THE CORRESPONDENCE SECTION.

SHE IS THE PROUD MOTHER OF THREE DAUGHTERS, KRISTA, CASSIDY, AND CARISSA.

AND RECENTLY STEPHANIE BECAME A VERY PROUD GLAM.

ALL RIGHT. GLAM. IS THAT WHAT THEY CALL YOU? SO SHE IS A DEVOTED WIFE TO MR. BOBBY GONZALEZ. AND BOBBY'S RIGHT HERE WHERE YOU HAVE BOBBY AND.

AND ENJOYS TRAVELING AND SPENDING TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY AND GIVING BACK TO HER COMMUNITY AND CHURCH.

SHE'S EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY WITH HER FAMILY AND TO SHARE THIS MILESTONE WITH HER FAVORITE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR.

SHE. AND ANYWAY, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO LET HER SAY A FEW WORDS.

STEPHANIE. STEPHANIE. STEP FORWARD. WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOUR FAMILY? THIS IS MY HUSBAND, BOBBY. AND THIS IS CARISSA.

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KRISTA CASSIDY. THIS IS AALIYAH, AND THAT'S ARIA AND MATT.

AND MY MOM IS HERE TODAY TO COME. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND JUDGE ZACHARY FOR THIS INVITATION.

THE COMMISSIONERS. I STARTED WHEN I WAS JUST 25, SO I'VE BEEN HERE HALF OF MY LIFE.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT PROPERTY TAX WOULD BE SOMETHING INTERESTING TO SOMEBODY? WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL, I WOULD TELL MY MOM Y Y Y AND SHE WOULD SAY, WAIT TILL YOUR FATHER GOT HOME AND YOU CAN ASK HIM.

AND I WANT TO THANK MY DAD FOR THE PATIENCE, FOR ANSWERING MY WHYS AND FOR MY MOM FOR THE GOOD DIRECTION.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO EXTEND GRATITUDE TO THE WOMEN MENTORS OF THE TAX OFFICE.

TO MY COWORKERS THAT ALLOW ME TO MENTOR THEM AND TO THE FRIENDSHIPS THAT I HOLD DEAR.

MY PASSION IS KNOWLEDGE, AND I HAVE ALWAYS STRIVED TO EDUCATE MYSELF AS WELL AS OTHERS TO UNDERSTAND THE TAX OFFICE.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. GUTIERREZ FOR ALWAYS DEBATING TAX LAWS WITH ME AND CHALLENGING ME TO LEARN FROM THEM.

THANK YOU TO MISS ANDERSON FOR SUPPORTING MY IDEAS AND BEING ONE OF MY FAVORITE CHEERLEADERS AND TO MUST DO THIS.

FOR TEACHING HIS STAFF TO STRIVE TO BE GREAT AND GRANTING ME THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU TO MY HUSBAND, BOBBY FOR 29 YEARS AND OUR THREE DAUGHTERS FOR THEIR SUPPORT.

ATTENDING ALL THE TAX OFFICE ACTIVITIES, COOKING, BAKING AND LISTENING TO MY BORING TAX OFFICE STORIES.

TOGETHER, THE FIVE OF US HAVE CREATED A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY SUPPORT OF EACH OTHER, AND I TRULY THANK GOD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. STEPHANIE, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD TO ACCEPT YOUR PEN AND HAVE EVERYBODY COME FORWARD AND WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE? HERE YOU GO, STEPHANIE. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COME ON.

MAMA. HERE WE GO. SHE WANTS A PICTURE TOO, RIGHT? HERE WE GO. IN HERE. ALL RIGHT. COME ON. STEPH.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY BASHFUL AROUND. HERE. I GAVE IT THERE.

THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

TURN IT. TURN IT. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU. JUAN. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. OUR THIRD EMPLOYEE WITH 30 PLUS 30 YEARS IS MARIA SALAZAR SALINAS WITH THE DISTRICT COURT CRIMINAL.

OH, MAN. SHE'S GONE. SHE BROUGHT HER. SHE BROUGHT HER SUPPORTERS HERE.

SO, MARIA. STEP FORWARD WITH YOUR FAMILY. YOUR.

YOUR TROOPS, YOUR CHEERLEADERS. I APOLOGIZE, YOUR HONOR.

AND COMMISSIONERS, I DID NOT INVITE MY FAMILY.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER DAY IN THE OFFICE FOR ME.

I'M SO SORRY. OKAY, WELL, YOU BROUGHT YOUR DA FAMILY, BUT I DID BRING MY WORK FAMILY, I DID.

ALL RIGHT, I LIKE TO JUST SAY A COUPLE OF FEW WORDS, AND THEN I THINK MARIA WANTS TO SAY.

ALL RIGHT, ANA, GO AHEAD. SO MARIA SALINAS HAS BEEN THE BACKBONE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION FOR OVER 25 YEARS.

AND PRIOR TO THAT, SHE SERVED IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SHE'S CURRENTLY THE ADMINISTRATOR IN COURT ADMINISTRATION, SUPERVISING OUR LOVELY INTERPRETERS, WHICH A LOT OF THEM ARE BACK HERE. AND OUR COURT REPORTERS AND HER LIGHT AND LAUGHTER ARE WHAT MAKE MARIA SO SPECIAL TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

BUT HER INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, WITH OVER 30 YEARS IN THE COUNTY MAKE HER SIMPLY IRREPLACEABLE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS, MARIA, ON A GREAT MILESTONE.

AND I THINK YOU WANT TO SAY SOME WORDS. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK JUDGE SAKAI AND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR GIVING US SUCH AN AMAZING WORKPLACE. BEXAR COUNTY IS BY FAR THE BEST. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD OUR UPS AND DOWNS, BUT DAVID HAS ALWAYS MANAGED TO SAVE THE DAY.

EVERY DAY, EVERY YEAR, HE'S GOT A SHOUT OUT. WOW.

IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED, DAVID. I DID TAKE TAKE CARE OF HIM.

DAVID, TAKE CARE OF THE DISTRICT COURTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BUDGET SEASON.

JUST SAYING. I KNOW, I DID. I HAVE BEEN ASKED BEFORE, YOU KNOW HOW HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO STAY, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS WITH BEXAR COUNTY? WHY IS IT THAT YOU STAY? AND I WROTE A FEW WORDS I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY.

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GETTING A LITTLE NERVOUS HERE. I CONSIDER MYSELF INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE AND TRULY BLESSED TO HAVE WORKED ALONGSIDE SO MANY REMARKABLE INDIVIDUALS.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN UNWAVERINGLY SUPPORTIVE.

LOYAL AND PASSIONATELY COMMITTED TO THE SAME VISION THAT DRIVES ME.

TOGETHER, WE HAVE BUILT A DEPARTMENT THAT IS NOT ONLY PRODUCTIVE AND PRESTIGIOUS, BUT ALSO GROUNDED IN ACCOUNTABILITY AND A POSITIVE, EMPOWERING WORK ENVIRONMENT. THROUGH THE STRENGTH, EXCUSE ME THROUGH THE STRENGTH AND ENCOURAGEMENT OF MY COLLEAGUES.

I HAVE FOUND THE RESILIENCE TO OVERCOME SOME OF THE TOUGHEST CHALLENGES IN MY PERSONAL LIFE.

MY BEXAR COUNTY FAMILY HAS BEEN A STEADFAST SOURCE OF SUPPORT, LIFTING ME UP DURING THE HARDEST MOMENTS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM FOR THEIR UNWAVERING FAITH AND FRIENDSHIP. I OFFER MY DEEPEST GRATITUDE.

IT IS THE SPIRIT OF UNITY AND SHARED PURPOSE THAT GIVES ME COURAGE AND INSPIRES ME EVERY DAY TO KEEP PUSHING FORWARD, KNOWING THAT TOGETHER WE CAN ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS WITH THE PROMISE OF BRIGHTER DAYS AHEAD.

AND THAT'S ALL I'D LIKE TO SHARE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU MARIA. FORWARD. EVERYBODY COME FORWARD IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE PICTURE.

OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE YOU GO, MARIA.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. READY? GET.

READY. ONE. TWO. THREE. OH. VERY GOOD.

HEY. HEY, MELISSA. LONG TIME NO SEE. I'M DOING GREAT.

HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? OH, GREAT. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. WE'RE NOW GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION. A PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONERS COURT RECOGNIZING TEMPLE BETH-EL ON THEIR 150TH ANNIVERSARY.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME RABBI MARTIN NATHAN, SENIOR RABBI AT TEMPLE BETHEL, AND GUEST TO JOIN US IN COMMEMORATING THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF TEMPLE BETH-EL.

TEMPLE BETH-EL HAS A RICH HISTORY. OUR COUNTY CLERK TEAM IDENTIFIED A FASCINATING RECORD FROM 1888.

IT IS A MAP OF DOWNTOWN WHEN TEMPLE WAS LOCATED ON TRAVIS STREET, ACROSS FROM THE WHAT NOW IS FIRST BAPTIST.

WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY. COMMISSIONER.

CALVERT TEMPLE BETH-EL. I BELIEVE IN YOUR DISTRICT.

SO I'M GOING TO YIELD TO YOU TO READ THE PROCLAMATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU, RABBI.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN THIS MORNING. THANK YOU.

YEAH. THE PROCLAMATION READS, WHEREAS TEMPLE BETH-EL FIRMLY BELIEVES IN THE JEWISH VALUE, THAT WE ARE CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE AND REMAINS STEADFAST IN ITS CODE OF ETHICS, ENSHRINING THE VALUES OF HOLINESS, HONESTY, HONOR, COMPASSION, JUSTICE, AND A COMMITMENT TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF PERSONAL INTEGRITY, SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND HUMAN DECENCY.

WHILE REMAINING RELEVANT TO TODAY'S WORLD. AND WHEREAS AS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE UNION OF AMERICAN HEBREW CONGREGATIONS, NOW THE UNION. OF REFORM JUDAISM, THE SYNAGOGUE IS HONORING ITS 150 YEAR LEGACY OF PROVIDING A SACRED FRAMEWORK TO LEARN AND GROW JEWISH IN A VIBRANT AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, SINCE ITS FOUNDING IN 1874, WITH 44 MEMBER HOUSEHOLDS, TEMPLE BETH-EL OUTGREW ITS ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AND CONSTRUCTED A NEW BUILDING IN 1903 ON THE SAME SITE IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO FOR OVER 145 MEMBER HOUSEHOLDS. IN 1927, IT MOVED TO ITS PRESENT LOCATION AT THE CORNER OF BELKNAP AND ASHBY, AND HAS SINCE BECOME AN ICONIC LANDMARK WITH MORE THAN 900 MEMBER FAMILIES, WITH THE MOTTO UNDER THIS DOME, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. AND WHEREAS MEMBERS AND CLERGY HAVE BEEN AT THE HEART OF REFORM JEWISH LIFE AND COMMUNITY IN BEXAR COUNTY SINCE TEMPLE BETH EL'S INCEPTION, AND IT IS NOW THE LARGEST SYNAGOGUE IN SOUTH TEXAS, WITH SENIOR RABBI MARK NATHAN SERVING SINCE 2014.

ASSOCIATE RABBI MARINA JURGENS SINCE 2015 AND CANTOR SETH ETTINGER SINCE 2024.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY SALUTES TEMPLE BETH EL'S 150TH ANNIVERSARY IN BEXAR COUNTY.

WITNESS OUR SIGNATURES ON SEAL OF OFFICES, FIFTH DAY OF AUGUST, 2025, SIGNED BY JUDGE SAKAI AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

WE'D LOVE TO HEAR A WORD FROM YOU, RABBI, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS REALLY SPECIAL RECOGNITION ON BEHALF OF MY CONGREGATION, OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES, WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT AND RECOGNITION OF THE COUNTY.

TEMPLE IS COMMITTED TO BEING REALLY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.

PART OF THE CITY ITSELF ARE OUR OUR COMMITMENT TO SOCIAL JUSTICE AND TAKING CARE OF OUR LARGER COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS ONE OF OUR CORE VALUES,

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AND WE ALWAYS OPEN OUR DOORS TO ANYONE OF ANY FAITH TRADITION WHO WANTS TO COME AND NOT ONLY TAKE A TOUR OF OUR BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, BUT REALLY BE PRESENT IN OUR SPACE, WHETHER IT'S FOR WORSHIP OR COMMUNITY GATHERING.

AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE CITY AND BEYOND, TO GATHER IN GOOD TIMES AND ALSO IN SAD TIMES.

WE CONTINUE TO BE COMMITTED TO BEING GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH THE CITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO, GOD WILLING, ANOTHER 150 YEARS OF SERVING THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HONOR. RABBI, IF I COULD SAY A FEW COMMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THERE AT TEMPLE BETH-EL.

AS I'VE HEARD, IT HAS GROWN AND CONTINUES TO GROW.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE LIVE IN SOME REALLY TOUGH TIMES.

RABBI. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN SOME UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT APPEARS TO BE ANTI-SEMITIC, AND I WANT TO CONDEMN THOSE TYPE OF ACTS, THOSE TYPE OF WORDS, THOSE TYPE OF ACTIONS.

BUT IN RESPONSE, AS I ASKED BISHOP FIFER, MICHAEL PFEIFFER, COULD I ASK YOU FOR PRAYER SO THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT IN SPITE OF THESE TOUGH TIMES THAT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO COME TOGETHER, THAT WE FIND OUR COMMON BOUNDS, WE FIND OUR COMMON GOALS, THAT WE FIND THAT WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, AND THAT DESPITE ACTS SUCH AS WHAT HAS HAPPENED RECENTLY, WE WILL SURVIVE AND WE WILL MOVE ON AND WE WILL BE BETTER, STRONGER, AND THAT WE WILL BE A BETTER COMMUNITY.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY TOO IN THAT REGARD IN OUR STATE.

SO WOULD YOU DO THAT FOR ME? ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. WOULD YOU COME FORWARD, RABBI, TO ACCEPT YOUR PROCLAMATION AND WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE.

THERE WE GO. THERE. THANKS. OKAY. THERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON.

[4. TIME CERTAIN ITEM(S) (Part 1 of 3)]

WE'RE GOING TO TIME CERTAIN NOW. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE RIGHT NOW.

THE TIME IS 935. WE'LL CLOSE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

WE'RE GOING TO OPEN FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ADVISED PUBLIC INPUT REGARDING AUTHORIZATION FOR THE ABATEMENT OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 27523 TWIN PEAK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, 78261 TO INCLUDE THE DEMOLITION OF A STRUCTURE OR DWELLING BOARDING OF THE SECONDARY STRUCTURE AND ASSOCIATED REMOVAL AND HAULING MATERIALS FROM THE PROPERTY OF PRECINCT THREE.

SO, ELIZABETH, DO WE HAVE ALL THE SLIPS HERE? LET ME HAVE THE SLIPS. AND IS THERE ANYBODY THAT IS ASKED TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS TIME? CERTAIN OF A ISSUE DEALING WITH THE ABATEMENT OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 27523 23? YOU NEED TO SIGN UP. IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, THEN THE COURT CALLS 936 AND CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING AND REOPENS TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

WILL NOW TAKE UP AND DISCUSSION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING AUTHORIZATION FOR ABATEMENT OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 27523 TWIN PEAK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, 78261 TO INCLUDE THE DEMOLITION OF A STRUCTURE, DWELLING, BOARDING OF THE SECONDARY STRUCTURE, AND ASSOCIATED REMOVAL AND HAULING OF MATERIALS FROM THE PROPERTY OF PRECINCT THREE.

MR. REINHARDT, YOU'VE DONE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FIRST.

MAY I ASK IF IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. MR. REINHARDT, EXPLAIN TO THE COURT AND TO THE PUBLIC WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.

SURE THING. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE ART REINHARDT, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. AND IF WE CAN BRING UP THE PRESENTATION.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. COURT. I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST APPROVAL TO ABATE THE REFERENCE PROPERTY AT 27 523 TWIN PEAK STREET. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS IN FAR NORTH BEXAR COUNTY, NEAR BROOKFIELD ROAD.

THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS FIVE ACRES. THE LAND SIZE AND THE STRUCTURES YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THERE'S TWO STRUCTURES. THERE'S A PRIMARY STRUCTURE THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 6800FT², WHICH WILL BE PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE REMAINING STRUCTURE AND REMOVE THE DEBRIS, AND A SECONDARY STRUCTURE THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 3000FT², WHICH AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE WILL BOARD UP.

HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME PICTURES OF THE CURRENT STATE OF THE PROPERTY.

AS YOU CAN TELL, IT PARTIALLY COLLAPSED IN A FIRE.

AND I'LL DESCRIBE THE HISTORY OF THE PROCESS HERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. SO DATING BACK TO 2021 AND OCTOBER,

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WE RECEIVED NOTICE THAT THE STRUCTURE HAD BURNED DOWN.

AND SO WE ISSUED NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS TWO SEPARATE TIMES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE UNRESPONSIVE. SO AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS, WE FORWARDED THE CASE TO THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE TO BEGIN THE COURT PROCESS.

THROUGHOUT 2022, A COURT DATES WERE SET AND THE OWNERS FAILED TO APPEAR AT COURT.

SO IN 2023, FINES WERE PAID AND THE CASE WAS CLOSED.

AND YOU'LL SEE AGAIN IN 24 AND 25, THE VIOLATION PERSISTED.

SO FINES WERE ISSUED AND FINES WERE PAID AND A CASE RESTARTED ITSELF.

SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ABATEMENT.

JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY ON THE ABATEMENT PROCESS. SO BASED ON OUR RECENTLY AMENDED COURT ORDER WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT NOTICE ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT CONSENT AGENDA, DESCRIBING THE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND TO DATE.

IF A DEMOLITION IS REQUIRED, WHICH IT IS, AND WE'RE HERE TODAY, A HEARING WILL BE SET FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN PRIOR.

SHOULD WE GET AN AUTHORITY TO PROCEED? WE WILL THEN BEGIN WITH THE ABATEMENT PROCESS AND PLACE A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WE DO HAVE A QUOTE FROM A CONTRACTOR FOR APPROXIMATELY $23,000 FOR THE ABATEMENT.

SO THE RECOMMENDED MOTION TODAY IS I'M REQUESTING APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH THE ABATEMENT OF THE REFERENCE PROCESS PROPERTY.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. SO WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH IT? SO THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY TWO PRIVATE OWNERS.

OKAY. AND AFTER WE CLEAN THE PROPERTY, WE'LL PLACE A LIEN ON THAT PROPERTY.

SHOULD THAT PROPERTY SELL IN THE FUTURE, THE LINE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE PAID OFF AND IT'LL BELONG TO THE PROPERTY.

WILL STAY WITH THE CURRENT OWNER. WE'RE JUST SIMPLY COMING IN AND CLEANING IT UP AND PLACING A LIEN FOR THAT VALUE ON THE PROPERTY.

BUT WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THIS 22,800? THE COUNTY WILL BE PAYING THAT.

OKAY. BUT IF THE PRIVATE OWNERS SELL IT, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO REIMBURSE THIS AMOUNT.

RIGHT. VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER CODE COMPLIANCE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MOODY? THIS IS YOUR MOTION. WELL, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT APPRECIATE ART AND YOUR TEAM'S WORK ON THIS.

I KNOW MY TEAM JENNY ENDERLIN AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED FOR SOME TIME.

WE'VE HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS OVER THE PAST YEARS ON THIS BEING BEING AN ISSUE AND HAVING FOLKS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD STEP FORWARD AS WE TRY TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FURTHER COMMENT. HEARING NONE.

THERE'S A MOTION TO FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION.

MOTION CARRIES. SO ALL RIGHT, LET ME JUST PUT ON RECORD THAT I HAVE ASKED THIS ISSUE WAS FORMERLY IN DOCTOR GUERRERO'S PUBLIC HEALTH IS NOW MOVED OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS AND YOUR DEPARTMENT. CORRECT. AND YOU WILL BE IN CHARGE OF THAT.

SO I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE INSTRUCTED DOCTOR GAETA AT THAT TIME AND NOW ART REINHARDT, THAT IN REGARDS TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF, THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERED A NUISANCE.

AND GOING THROUGH THAT FORMAL PROCESS THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE AGGRESSIVE IN ENFORCEMENT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SAFE AND SECURE. AND I TAKE THE POSITION THAT PEOPLE WHO'VE ABANDONED THEIR PROPERTIES ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE AND NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

AND I EXPECT OUR TO TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT DO NOT COMPLY WITH THAT.

IS THAT A CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE POLICY OF THE COUNTY IS AT THIS TIME? THAT'S CORRECT. YES. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES THE A TIME CERTAIN WE NOW GO IMMEDIATELY TO FOR A TWO DISCUSSION APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE BEXAR COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, HIGH RISK INTAKE INTAKE TEAM, AND THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE INTAKE DIVISION BACKLOG, AUTHORIZING THE EXTENSION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE HIGH RISK INTAKE TEAM TO ALLOW THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO UTILIZE UNUSED FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $296,000 RESULTING FROM VACANT POSITIONS WITHIN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

MR. GONZALEZ, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. GOOD MORNING.

JUDGE SACCHI AND COMMISSIONERS WE ARE HANDING YOU A COPY OF A POWERPOINT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.

WHAT DID YOU GET? UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE APPEAR BEFORE YOU. THAT WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN US ACCURATE INFORMATION.

AND SO HOPEFULLY BY DOING IT THIS WAY, WE'LL GIVE YOU AS AS ACCURATE A NUMBER AS WE CAN.

THESE NUMBERS THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY REFLECT THE NUMBERS AS OF YESTERDAY.

IF IF I CAN BEGIN BY REMINDING THE COURT THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2023,

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THIS COURT APPROVED A BUDGET NEUTRAL PROGRAM ALLOWING US TO UTILIZE OUR OWN FUNDS TO ATTACK THE BACKLOG THAT WE HAD IN THE OFFICE.

WE CREATED A HIGH RISK INTAKE REDUCTION PLAN.

CAME TO YOU TO ASK FOR FUNDING. THIS COURT APPROVED IT.

AND SO WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. IT HAS NOW BEEN ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF THAT WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING THIS PROGRAM.

I'M HERE TO TELL THE COURT THAT IT HAS BEEN A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

WE HAVE REDUCED THE BACKLOG. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, AT THE END OF IT, WE WILL BE ASKING FOR YOU TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW US TO USE AGAIN FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO IT'S A BUDGET NEUTRAL REQUEST, BUT IT'S ONE THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST SLIDE, IT TALKS ABOUT THAT THE BACKLOG IS COMPRISED OF TWO TYPES OF CASES.

YOU CAN THINK OF IT AS TWO BASKETS. ONE BEING ARREST CASES WHERE A DEFENDANT IS ARRESTED THEN MAKES BOND.

THE OTHER ONE BEING AN AT LARGE CASE WHERE NO ARREST IS MADE.

BUT A CASE IS FILED IN OUR OFFICE AS OF YESTERDAY.

THEN WHERE I REPORTED THE BACKLOG BEING 6330.

THE LAST TIME I WAS IN FRONT OF THIS COURT, IT IS NOW REDUCED TO 4817 CASES.

NOW, IF ALL THIS PROGRAM DID WAS FOCUS ON THOSE 63, 30 CASES OR 6300.

AND SO THEN I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN ALL WE'VE RESOLVED ALL THE BOND CASES AND ONLY HAVE 250 OF THOSE ORIGINAL AT LARGE CASES, OR THAT IS, THAT WE HAVE TACKED OVER 95% OF THOSE CASES.

BUT OF COURSE, OUR INTAKE OF CASES REMAINS CONSTANT.

IT'S FLUID. SO AS WE RESOLVE, SOME OTHERS COME IN THROUGH THE BACK END.

THE DA'S OFFICE AGAIN IS REQUESTING PERMISSION TO USE FUNDS TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE CALCULATE THE BACKLOG.

BACK WHEN WE FIRST BEGAN THIS PROGRAM, WE IDENTIFIED A BACKLOG AS FOUR BOND CASES WITH AN OFFENSE THAT WAS OVER 180 DAYS, AND THAT LARGE CASES WITH AN OFFENSE DATE OF OVER ONE YEAR.

FUGITIVE CASES WERE NEVER CONSIDERED PART OF THE BACKLOG.

THAT WAS A PROBLEM BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS CREATING AN UNFAIR METHOD OF CALCULATING A BACKLOG.

TODAY, HOW WE MEASURE A BACKLOG IS NOT FROM THE OFFENSE DAY, BUT WHEN THE CASE IS ACTUALLY FILED IN OUR OFFICE.

THE REASON IS BECAUSE THAT GIVES US A MORE ACCURATE PICTURE OF WHEN A CASE IS CONSIDERED BACKLOG.

FOR EXAMPLE, AS I'M INDICATED THERE, AN OFFENSE THAT OCCURS IN 2022, FOR EXAMPLE, IS BEING INVESTIGATED BUT IS NOT FILED IN OUR OFFICE UNTIL THIS YEAR. THEN IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A BACKLOG AS OF THIS MEASURE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN THE CASE IS ACTUALLY FILED. SO AGAIN, THE REASON WE USE THIS METHOD IS IT GIVES US A MORE ACCURATE FIGURE OF WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT A BACKLOG.

THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT THE ISSUES. AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR AT THIS POINT.

WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST, BUT THE SAME ISSUES THAT THAT I ADDRESSED WITH THIS COURT BEFORE STILL PERSIST.

THE BIGGEST BEING THE PROSECUTOR SHORTAGE. WE ARE DOWN AN ENTIRE DIVISION OF PROSECUTORS ABOUT 30 OR SO.

AND THE STRUGGLE HAS TO DO WITH MONEY. MOST OF THE PROSECUTORS THAT HAVE RESIGNED WILL COME BY FOR AN EXIT INTERVIEW, AND THEY WILL TELL ME THAT THEY'RE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING OFFERED JOBS.

AND OTHER AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. OF COURSE, THE PRIVATE SECTOR ALWAYS ATTRACTS PROSECUTORS, BUT WE'RE SEEING WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS THAT THE SMALLER COUNTIES, BECAUSE OF A GRANT THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, ARE ABLE TO GO TO SMALLER COUNTIES FOR MORE MONEY WITH LESS WORK LESS OF A CASELOAD.

SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE IN OUR OFFICE THAT CONTINUES TO PERSIST.

EVIDENCE IS ANOTHER CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE THE AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IS EXPONENTIAL COMPARED TO YEARS PAST.

THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE IS BODY WORN CAMERAS. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A CRIME SCENE WHERE FOR BEFORE, YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD 4 OR 5 OFFICERS AND HAD A COUPLE OF PHOTOS.

TODAY YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT EACH HAVE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE.

OUR PROSECUTORS HAVE TO REVIEW EVERY ONE OF THOSE IN ORDER TO MAKE A CHARGING DECISION.

AND THE CRIME LAB IS STILL ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE SEE SOME DELAYS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE ABOUT A FOURTH OF THE CURRENT BACKLOG THAT ARE WAITING ON CRIME LAB ANALYSIS.

THERE'S BEEN SOME RELIEF. BUT WE STILL SEE A BACKLOG.

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AND THEN ANOTHER AREA I HAVE HERE IS ODYSSEY.

SINCE THE DAY THAT ODYSSEY HAS GONE LIVE. WE HAVE SEEN SOME SOME ISSUES.

WE'VE GOT STILL SOME GROWING PAINS. IT CONTINUES TO IMPROVE.

BUT AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE THOSE CHALLENGES. THE NEXT 2 OR 3 SLIDES IS A REFLECTION OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE THE THE DIAGRAM. AND BY THE WAY, AGAIN, WE HAVE SEPARATED THE THE BACKLOG OF CASES INTO TWO BASKETS, THE AT LARGE, WHERE THERE'S NO ARRESTS MADE AND THE BOND CASES ON THE AT LARGE.

AND AGAIN, IF I IF I COULD POINT YOU TO THE ORANGE LINE BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE'RE NOW DETERMINING THE BACKLOG FROM THE FILING DATE, YOU WILL SEE THAT FROM JANUARY 7TH OF LAST YEAR UNTIL YESTERDAY WE HAVE REDUCED THE CASES OR ELIMINATED ABOUT 734 OF THOSE CASES. SO WE'VE SEEN A REDUCTION OF 33%.

THE NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN, THIS IS THE THE BOND BACKLOG.

BUT WE BROKE IT INTO TWO DIFFERENT SLIDES BECAUSE ONE IS BEFORE ODYSSEY AND THE ONE AFTER THAT IS POST ODYSSEY.

THE ONE BEFORE ODYSSEY WENT ONLINE. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD A STEADY REDUCTION OF 20% FROM JANUARY 7TH OF 2024 TO YESTERDAY FROM 2903 CASES TO 23, 33 OR 570 CASES.

THAT WAS A 20% REDUCTION. THE REASON WE DIVIDED IT AND WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT BECAUSE OF ODYSSEY AND ALL THE CHALLENGES, AND AGAIN, THE BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT IS GROWING PAINS.

WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPTICK FROM FROM ABOUT OCTOBER TO THE EARLY PART OF THE YEAR.

BUT BUT AGAIN, NOW THE TREND AS OF FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR IS TRENDING DOWNWARD.

SO EVEN EVEN WITH ODYSSEY, EVEN WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE, WE ARE TRENDING DOWN.

THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF, OF OF SUMMARIZING THE SUCCESS WITH THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE HAD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASES REVIEWED. SLIDE IT TALKS ABOUT THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

WE OBVIOUSLY ARE ONLY HALF OF THE YEAR. SO IT MAKES SENSE TO GO BACK TWO YEARS FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR FROM JANUARY TO JUNE.

IF YOU LOOK AT 2023 WE HAD 11,238 CASES REVIEWED LAST YEAR.

DURING THE SAME TIME FRAME, WE HAD 13,433 CASES.

AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE ALREADY REVIEWED 14,367.

SO WE'VE HAD A 28% INCREASE SINCE 2023 OF THE CASES THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED IN OUR OFFICE.

AND I THINK THIS IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF THE COMMITMENT IN OUR OFFICE BY OUR PROSECUTORS TO WORK ON THIS OVERTIME PROGRAM.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS REFLECTED IN IN INDICTMENTS AGAIN BEFORE AND AFTER THE REDUCTION PROGRAM, YOU CAN SEE COMPARED TO 23 WHERE THERE WAS 6504 CASES, AND THEN IN 24 8687 CASES.

THIS YEAR, WE'RE ALREADY IN HALF A YEAR. HAVE INDICTED 9100 CASES.

SO COMPARED TO 23, THAT'S A 3000 CASE INCREASE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR INDICTMENTS HAVE INCREASED 40% SINCE 2023.

WE ARE ON TRACK TO INDICT OVER 15,000 CASES. IN, IN BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

AGAIN, I BELIEVE WE BELIEVE IT'S A CURRENT REFLECTION OF OF OUR PROSECUTORS WORKING OVERTIME ON THE EVENINGS AND ON WEEKENDS.

WITH THIS OVERTIME PROGRAM THE LAST SLIDE IS BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THIS PROGRAM.

52 OF OUR ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEYS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN PROGRAM OF THE 149.

SO THAT MEANS A LITTLE OVER A THIRD OF THE PROSECUTORS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OVERTIME PROGRAM HAVE DONE SO.

WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED 5583 CASES TO BE REVIEWED AS OF JULY 31ST OF THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE SPENT 269,307. THAT WAS AGAIN ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THE DA'S OFFICE.

SO WE'RE ASKING TO BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM.

WE'RE ASKING FOR 296,000 TO CONTINUE THIS BACKLOG REDUCTION PROGRAM.

AND AGAIN, HOW WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT IS WITH UNUSED SALARIES FOR MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTOR POSITIONS.

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THIS BUDGET NEUTRAL PROGRAM HAS BEEN A SUCCESS AND HAS ALLOWED OUR OFFICE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS IN THE BACKLOG, EVEN WITH THE THE CHALLENGES THAT I'VE ALREADY OUTLINED AND THE STAFFING SHORTAGES.

IN CONCLUSION, COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MY PERSONAL GOAL IN LEADING THIS CHARGE IS TO LEAVE THIS OFFICE IN THE BEST SHAPE POSSIBLE.

WHEN I DO END MY MY ADMINISTRATION IN DECEMBER OF 2026.

ALL RIGHT. I DO HAVE A CITIZEN. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO BE HEARD? I THINK CONSTABLE VOJVODICH, YOU'VE ASKED ON FOR BE.

SO I'M TINA, COMMISSIONER MOONEY. THANKS, JUDGE.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK TO COURT. TO TO SHARE THIS WITH US.

HAVE SOME, SOME COMMENTS AND SOME QUESTIONS. I MEAN, I'M GLAD WE WE GOT THIS PRESENTATION.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE DATA HERE THAN IN PREVIOUS TIMES WHEN YOU'VE COME.

I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND NOT JUST FOR DA'S PRESENTATION, BUT FOR COUNTY STAFF AT LARGE, RIGHT? I JOKE SOMETIMES, I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE SAID IT HERE IN COURT, BUT DATA IS CRITICAL, AND AND GOD, WE TRUST, BUT ALL OTHERS BRING DATA, RIGHT? I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE SHOULD STICK TO IT.

WE SHOULD MAKE DATABASE DECISIONS HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

SO AND FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, ON A POSITIVE NOTE, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE IN CASES REVIEWED YEAR OVER YEAR AND INDICTMENTS. SO I THINK THAT THAT ALSO SPEAKS TO SOME SOME GOOD WORK BEING DONE BY YOUR PROSECUTORS IN MOVING SOME CASES THROUGH. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, THOUGH, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TEAM AND YOURSELF WALKING US THROUGH SOME OF THIS THE OTHER DAY. BUT I WAS DOING THE MATH HERE BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

RIGHT AT LARGE BACKLOG REDUCTION AND THE BOND BACKLOG REDUCTION.

CORRECT. WHY IS THE BOND BACKLOG REDUCTION SO IMPACTED BY OR AT LEAST YOUR COMMENTS SAID THAT WAS IMPACTED BY THE ODYSSEY LAUNCH? YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING.

I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR WHY IT WAS IMPACTED MORE ON THE THE BOND VERSUS THE AT LARGE.

I WOULD MY GUESS WOULD BE THAT THERE'S A SHORTER FUZE OR THERE'S AN URGENCY TO GET THESE CASES INDICTED. I DON'T HAVE A BETTER ANSWER. MAYBE SOMEBODY IF.

EMILY, IF YOU WANT TO FEEL THAT QUESTION. THE CHIEF OF OUR INTAKE, EMILY ANGULO, IS HERE.

DO YOU DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION, EMILY? IT WAS REGARDING THE BOND BACKLOG.

COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL OBVIOUSLY THE PRESENTATIONS MAKING THE CASE THAT ODYSSEY IMPACTED THE BOND BACKLOG, WHICH REALLY UNDERMINED THE OVERALL REDUCTION IN CASES.

IT DID. SO WHY WHY THAT CATEGORY VERSUS THE OTHER CATEGORY BEING IMPACTED? SO A LOT OF THE AT LARGE BACKLOG WE WERE ABLE TO STILL WORK ON, I WILL TELL YOU, SOME OF THAT LARGE BACKLOG THAT I HAVE GONE THROUGH IN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF WAS FROM YEARS LIKE 2018 BEFORE. AND ACTUALLY BEYOND THAT, I HAD A COUPLE THEFT OF CHATTELS THAT I HAD TO DISPOSE OF THAT WERE JUST HANGING ON THE LIST THAT WEREN'T A TRUE REFLECTION OF OUR BACKLOG.

REGARDING OUR BOND BACKLOG, HOWEVER ONCE WE HIT THAT JUNE GO LIVE DATE, WE HAD MONTHS WHERE WE COULD ONLY INDICT OUR JAIL CASES BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH OUR GRAND JURY AND WITH THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY FILE THE INDICTMENTS, AND FOR THE GRAND JURY MEN TO SIGN THEM IN ODYSSEY, WE HAD TO ONLY PUT FORTH OUR JAIL CASES BECAUSE THOSE OBVIOUSLY ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. AND SO THE BOND GREW WHILE THE JAIL REMAINED AS IT SHOULD.

OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. THE I'LL JUST POINT THIS OUT, RIGHT.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU BROKE THIS OUT, AND THE CASE IS BEING MADE THAT THAT ODYSSEY HELPED SLOW THE PROGRESS HERE.

BUT IF YOU DO ADD UP ALL THOSE NUMBERS FROM A YEAR AGO.

I HAD 51, 28 VERSUS THE 4817 THAT WE HAVE TODAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING THE NEW METRIC, NEW CLASSIFICATION. SO I SHOULD THAT IS ABOUT A 6% DECREASE OVERALL.

JUST LOOKING AT THE MATH. IT'S A DECREASE. I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

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BUT YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ODYSSEY OR WHETHER IT'S THESE OTHER FACTORS.

THEY'VE THEY'VE UNDERMINED SOME OF THAT PROGRESS.

AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO TO CHIP AWAY AT THIS AND REDUCE IT FURTHER.

DO YOU DO WE HAVE ANY GOALS AT THIS POINT? WHAT ARE OUR GOALS FOR KIND OF LIKE REDUCING THIS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, 12 MONTHS. DO WE HAVE ANY OUR GOALS? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE.

OUR GOALS IN INTAKE. AND THAT'S FAMILY VIOLENCE INTAKE.

THAT'S PUBLIC INTEGRITY AND CYBERCRIME INTAKE.

AND THAT CTD INTAKE IS TO REDUCE THE BACKLOG AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

PART OF THAT, THOUGH, IS THE HIGH RISK PROGRAM AND THE SUCCESS OF THE HIGH RISK PROGRAM.

I CANNOT AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH BEING AN ENTIRE DIVISION DOWN OF LAWYERS HAS AFFECTED OUR ABILITY TO SHOW MORE PROGRESS THAN THE 6%. THE FACT THAT WE CAN STILL, AT THIS POINT WITH I HAVE AROUND 30 PEOPLE IN CTD INTAKE CRIMINAL TRIAL DIVISION INTAKE. I APOLOGIZE.

IF I HAD THOSE 30 EXTRA LAWYERS THAT WE ARE MISSING FROM OUR OFFICE, WE COULD MAKE A HUGE DENT.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE HIGH RISK PROGRAM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THAT HIGH RISK, OR AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO. IF WE COULD KEEP THOSE PEOPLE RETAINED OR ACTUALLY HIRE THOSE PEOPLE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RIGHT NOW TO JUST KEEP OUR HEAD ABOVE WATER AND SHOW A DECREASE TO THIS COURT, IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT BY OUR PROSECUTORS AND THE DEDICATION OF OUR PROSECUTORS.

OKAY. AND WITH REGARD TO THE CRIME LAB, IS THAT CONTRACT IN FULL EFFECT? ARE WE MAKING GAINS ON THAT FRONT? THE BACKLOG AT THE CRIME LAB.

SORRY, DAVID. THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY, SO I ASSUME THE ANSWER IS YES.

WE HAVE SEEN WE HAVE SEEN LABS COMING BACK FROM ARMSTRONG, SO I KNOW THAT THEY ARE UTILIZING THE ARMSTRONG CONTRACT, AS MR. SMITH SAID. WE DO, HOWEVER, STILL HAVE A LARGE BACKLOG OF CASES THAT WE ARE SIMPLY WAITING ON LABS FOR.

A LOT OF THOSE ARE OUR BOND CASES, AND NOT ONLY IN THE CRIME LAB ARE WE WAITING ON DRUG CASES, OUR LABS, TO COME BACK, BUT WE'RE ALSO WAITING ON FIREARMS ANALYSIS, DNA ANALYSIS, WHICH CAN TAKE UP TO OR OVER A YEAR.

AND SOMETIMES WE CANNOT INDICT CASES WITHOUT THAT FIREARM ANALYSIS OR DNA ANALYSIS.

THAT TAKES A WHILE. OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE CRIME LAB, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT UP.

YES. AND I'M I'M PROUD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COURT HAS APPROVED THE MEASURE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

ABSOLUTELY. AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT YOU GET THE RESULTS THAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO PROSECUTE THESE CASES.

I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO, TO ACCELERATE OUR EFFORTS AND ALSO OUR PRODUCTION.

I THINK AS WE GO FORWARD IN THE NEW IN THE REST OF THIS YEAR, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO OTHER THINGS REALLY QUICKLY, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG, LONG DAY.

BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY BOND REFORM.

AS IT RELATES TO TO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION, OBVIOUSLY THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE GOVERNOR HAVE MADE SOME MOVES ON THAT FRONT WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY THAT I FULLY SUPPORT. HOWEVER, THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE THE BOND AMOUNTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT PUBLICLY SOME OF THE COMMENTS I MADE TO YOUR TEAM THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A NOMINAL AMOUNT OF $100,000.20 YEARS AGO, $100,000 WAS VERY DIFFERENT THAN $100,000 BOND TODAY.

AND THAT'S FOR A VARIETY OF FACTORS. I'LL BE REALLY QUICK.

FIRST OF ALL, INFLATION ABSOLUTELY HAS DRAMATICALLY DECREASED THE VALUE OF THAT $100,000 TO THE BOND PERCENTAGE THAT'S REQUIRED FROM FROM BONDSMEN TODAY. WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THAT PERCENTAGE CAN BE UNDER 5% EVEN AS LOW AS 3%.

SO INSTEAD OF PAYING 10% ON THAT BOND, IF YOU'RE PAYING 3% ON THAT BOND BECOMES A MUCH LOWER BAR TO TO BE ABLE TO TO, TO WALK OUT OF JAIL. AND THE THIRD THING BEING TRIAL DELAYS, RIGHT.

IF IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT ONE YEAR OR SIX MONTHS FOR, FOR TRIAL COMPLETION, YOU KNOW, TEN, 20 YEARS AGO. BUT NOW YOU MAY BE LOOKING AT 3 OR 4 YEARS.

THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT CALCULATION AND A VERY DIFFERENT SCENARIO FOR FOR OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT THAT.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE THE BOND. WAS IT THE BAIL BOND BOARD?

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MEET AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM AND WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICIES ARE, AND IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF LIMITATIONS THAT THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THAT BOARD GOING FORWARD TO, AGAIN, IN THE INTERESTS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BONDS THE SAME WAY MAKING SURE THAT THAT THOSE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AS THE THE CENTERPIECE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE LAST THING I'LL SAY AND I'LL MOVE ON.

I DO APPRECIATE I LIKE THE IDEA OF PROVIDING YOUR OFFICE THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE DEFERENCE TO USE UNSPENT DOLLARS TO GO AFTER AND ATTACK THIS BACKLOG.

AS LONG AS WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE PROGRESS, BUT WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS.

BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALSO SHOW THAT DEFERENCE TO OTHER OFFICES AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT FROM FROM OTHERS AS WE GO INTO BUDGET SEASON, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE TRY TO PROVIDE THAT SAME DEFERENCE TO OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

HAVE WE STARTED THE AUDIT THAT I REQUESTED WITH DOCTOR TESTER YET? THE OUTSIDE AUDIT? THAT'S THE FIRST I HEAR ABOUT AN AUDIT FROM YOUR OFFICE.

I'M SORRY. THIS IS. EXCUSE ME. THIS IS THE FIRST I HEAR ABOUT AN AUDIT REQUEST FROM YOU OR YOUR OFFICE.

WHO DID YOU DO? COMMISSIONERS COURT. AND I REQUESTED IT.

THOMAS OR SOMEONE FROM. CAN YOU ALL SPEAK TO THAT? WELL, WHY DOESN'T HE KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I GUESS IT HASN'T STARTED.

YES. IT WAS SOME. SESSIONS AGO WHEN I THINK THE BUDGET WAS UP HERE TALKING ABOUT OVERTIME AT THE JAIL. AND YOU HAD REQUESTED THAT.

RIGHT. AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO DOCTOR TESTA TO GET SOME PRICING.

AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THOMAS THOMAS AND GIVING THEM SOME INFORMATION.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT, COMMISSIONER TO SEE WHEN WE CAN GET THAT STARTED.

BUT I STILL NEED TO SPEAK WITH MY BOSSES AND WHAT I AM GETTING THEM INFORMATION THE DA KNOW ABOUT.

WELL, THAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN, THOUGH. WHY HASN'T HE HEARD ABOUT IT? THE DA WAS NOT HERE AT THE TIME WHEN YOU REQUESTED THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY WERE STILL. I WAS TRYING TO GET INFORMATION, AND THEY WERE STILL TRYING TO TALK TO INDIVIDUALS ABOUT A POSSIBLE SURVEY WITH DOCTOR TEST ON THE BACKLOG, ON IN JAIL AND ALSO WITH THE DA'S OFFICE.

OKAY, SO HEADS UP THAT'S COMING I GUESS. SO IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

BECAUSE AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY PEOPLE ARE ROTTING IN JAIL AND WE NEED TO DO DUE PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES AND WE CAN SAVE MONEY IN THE PROCESS. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANOTHER QUESTION IS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE LACK OF LAWYERS.

SO WHAT'S THE EFFORT BEING DONE FROM YOUR OFFICE TO RECRUIT NEW ATTORNEYS? HISTORICALLY COMMISSIONER, WE WOULD RELY ON SAINT MARY'S BEING THE LOCAL LAW SCHOOL, BUT WE'VE LEARNED THAT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

WE HAVE FOR SOME TIME, REACHED OUT TO DIFFERENT LAW SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN, IN VARIOUS RECRUITMENT PROGRAMS TO MR. JARMAN, OUR CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE ATTORNEY, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF RECRUIT RECRUITMENT.

CAN SPEAK TO THAT TO ME. SO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE? YES. WE'VE MADE AN EFFORT TO ADVERTISE AT ALL OF THE LAW SCHOOLS FROM AND WE TRY TO KEEP THOSE POSTINGS UP.

WE ALSO I'M SORRY YOU SAID ALL THE LAW SCHOOLS WHERE SO ALL THE TEN LAW SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN TEXAS, BECAUSE WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE LICENSED IN TEXAS.

AND SO WE MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GO TO THOSE PLACES AND PUT UP A POSTING FOR A MISDEMEANOR POSITION.

WE ALSO GO TO THE DCR. THEY HAVE A JOB BANK. AND SO WE POST THERE REGULARLY AND WE REFRESH.

SO IT GOES BACK TO THE TOP OF THE LIST BECAUSE AS TIME GOES ON, IT DROPS.

AND WE WANT OURS TO BE THE FIRST THAT THEY SEE.

OKAY. WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH AN ORGANIZATION WHERE WE CAN BE MORE AGGRESSIVE AS FAR AS GOING OUT AND FINDING THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THEM TO COME TO US. BUT WE'RE STILL IN TALKS.

THERE'S STILL SOME ISSUES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THAT. AND SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO.

I WILL SAY WE HAVE ADVERTISED AT SOME ON-CAMPUS RECRUITMENT EVENTS THAT THEY'VE HAD.

I DID. BAYLOR HAD TWO THIS SUMMER. WE RECEIVED ZERO APPLICANTS, SO WE ARE MAKING ALL THE BEST EFFORTS WE CAN TO TRY TO GET MORE APPLICANTS.

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BUT IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT, AND I DO THINK THE PAY IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE MORE GOING OTHER PLACES.

HAVE YOU GUYS WORKED WITH HR TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY BEST PRACTICE IDEAS? AT ONE POINT WE HAD BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, I HAD SEEN WHAT I THINK JUVENILE DID BACK A WHILE AGO, AND ALSO WHAT THE DISPATCHERS HAD DONE.

SO WE HAD TALKED TO A PERSON AT HR ABOUT THAT, AND I THINK THEY GOT US IN TOUCH WITH SOMEBODY AND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION UNIT.

SO WE NOW WE HAVE A FULLY STAFFED COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE, SO WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THEM.

DO YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A WHAT OFFICE COMMUNICATION.

SO WE HAVE TWO COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP US GET THE WORD OUT AND COME UP WITH IDEAS FOR VIDEOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED.

CAN YOU REACH OUT TO MANNY, OUR HR DIRECTOR, AND I KNOW MANNY.

I CAN TALK TO YOU AND SEE IF HE HAS ANY IDEAS TO HELP WITH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF, LIKE, REACHING OUT TO SCHOOLS OUT OF STATE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SAN ANTONIO PEOPLE WHO GO TO LAW SCHOOL OUT OF STATE, LIKE MY COLLEAGUE OVER HERE.

YEAH. AND WANT TO COME BACK HOME OR WANT TO COME BACK TO STATE.

SO. YES. WE ATTEMPTED TO POST WITH THE SUN BELT CAREER EVENT, AND WE RECEIVED ONE APPLICANT, AND THERE WERE SCHOOLS FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES THAT WERE THERE.

THE ONE ISSUE ABOUT GETTING SOMEONE FROM OUT OF STATE IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN GET LICENSED HERE PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF A PROBLEM. WE HAVE HIRED PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE, BUT WE'VE HAD TO WAIT FOR THEM TO FINALLY GET LICENSED HERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROGER. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR YOU, JOE OR EMILY, BUT THE SLIDES ON SEVEN AND EIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE THE COMPARATIVE COMPARATIVE INFORMATION ON THE REDUCTIONS FROM THE SAME TIME PERIODS 23, 24 AND 25.

SO SLIDE SEVEN, FOR EXAMPLE, SHOWS THAT CASE CASES REVIEWED HAVE INCREASED 28% SINCE 2023.

AND I DON'T NEED THIS NOW, BUT IF YOU CAN GET US, I THINK IT'D BE INSTRUCTIVE TO KNOW THE HOURS WORKED.

REALLY, I THINK FOR US TO KNOW, IS IT MORE HOURS? YOU HAVE MORE FOLKS THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING TO DO THIS, OR IS IT THEY BECOME MORE EFFICIENT IN MAKING THOSE REDUCTIONS? AND AGAIN, I DON'T NEED IT NOW, BUT I THINK IN PARTICULAR AS IT RELATES TO ODYSSEY AND HOPEFULLY TECHNOLOGIES ASSISTING US RATHER THAN HINDERING US. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW IF IT'S AS A RESULT OF WORKING MORE HOURS OR JUST BEING MORE EFFICIENT WITH MAYBE THE TECHNOLOGY WE'VE GOT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, SIR. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, LET ME JUST SAY THIS, AND YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS FROM YOUR TIME IN THE DA'S OFFICE, THAT THAT THE HOURS SPENT ON A PARTICULAR CASE DEPENDS ON THE OFFENSE.

RIGHT. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SPEND MORE HOURS REVIEWING A MURDER CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAN A CAR THEFT.

SO IT JUST IT'S IT'S IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF CASE, BUT BUT WE, AS I MENTIONED, A THIRD OF THE PROSECUTORS THAT WERE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM HAVE CONTINUED TO DO IT. AND WHY? BECAUSE IF YOU GIVE SOMEBODY A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY AND SPEND THE EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS TO, TO EARN MORE MONEY. YEAH. AND I GET THAT. I MEAN, I MEAN, THESE ARE THERE'S A HUMAN ASPECT TO ALL OF THESE CASES, I GET THAT. I GUESS I'M TRYING TO EVALUATE WHAT'S THE SYSTEMIC VALUE FROM OUR INVESTMENT SIDE, RIGHT, IN TERMS OF RESOURCES? AND CAN WE DO MORE TO MAKE THAT MORE EFFICIENT.

AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY FOR ANOTHER DAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FOLLOW UP AT SOME POINT.

JOE, ON HOW HOW WE COULD AGAIN ADD RESOURCES TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE REVIEWING THE CASES.

AND I KNOW WE NEED TO WRAP UP, COMMISSIONER, BUT I WILL SAY WE APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THAT THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS SUPPORTED US IN THE PAST WITH OUR INCREASES FOR SALARIES, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE NOT ENOUGH WHEN WE WE COMPETE WITH THE REST OF THE MARKET.

THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT'S UNIQUE TO BEXAR COUNTY. THERE WAS A STORY ABOUT A WEEK AGO. HARRIS COUNTY THAT HAS THREE LAW SCHOOLS IS DOWN 40 PROSECUTORS.

IT'S A PROBLEM WE SEE ACROSS THE NATION. WELL, EVEN WITHIN OUR COUNTY.

RIGHT. WE JUST LOST ONE OF THE PROSECUTORS. THAT WAS THAT IS IN MY UNIT IN THE INTAKE UNIT.

BRIGHT YOUNG MAN. HE'S A MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTOR.

I THINK WE PAY OUR PROSECUTORS STARTING OUT ABOUT 78 AND CHANGE.

I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT AMOUNT. AND HE JUST LEFT TO GO TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AS A MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTOR, WHERE HE'S GOING TO BE MAKING 86,000, AND HE ACTUALLY HAS A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF CASES IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THAT HE'S ALLOWED TO WORK ON VERSUS THE PROSECUTORS IN OUR OFFICE MAKING THE 78,000. AS FAR AS THE HOURS SPENT, I BELIEVE AS OF LAST WEEK, WITH THE HIGH RISK PROGRAM, WE'VE HAD OVER 5000 HOURS SPENT ON THAT PROGRAM BY PROSECUTORS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN IT.

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OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER MOODY, I JUST HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP. THAT'S THAT'S CRAZY IN MY OPINION.

WE ACTUALLY ARE LOSING PROSECUTORS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING THEM MORE MONEY IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

WE GOT TO FIGURE THAT OUT. THAT'S CRAZY. YES, SIR.

WE AGREE. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET ME CONSTABLE VOJVODICH DID A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, OR DID YOU HAVE OTHER ISSUES? BECAUSE IF YOU DO, I'M GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK ON FOUR B, WHICH IS THIS ISSUE.

SO IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, COME FORWARD. THAT'S THE ONLY CITIZEN TO BE HEARD.

AND BECAUSE OF THE TIME CONSTRAINTS, I REALLY ARE GOING TO INSIST ON THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT.

SO, CONSTABLE, YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES. GO AHEAD.

YES, SIR. JUST SAY GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. DA.

I SUPPORT THE DA IN THE USE OF HIS USE OF UNEXPECTED SALARY FUNDS TO BE REDIRECTED TO OTHER NEEDS WITHIN HIS OFFICE.

THESE FUNDS ARE PART OF HIS SET BUDGET, AND HE HAS HIS RIGHT TO USE THEM AS HE SEES FIT.

WE ALSO COMMISERATE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ODYSSEY IN OUR DATA SYSTEMS. A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T TRACK EXACTLY AS TO WHAT WE ARE TRACKING IN THE FIELD, AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO DEFER TO THE OFFICE HOLDER WHO HAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING VERSUS A COMPUTER UNLESS A COMPUTER'S DATA IS CHALLENGED AND BROUGHT ACROSS.

I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE SAME PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF EMPLOYEES.

BUT I DO SUPPORT HIS USE OF THE UNEXPECTED SALARY FUNDS.

IT'S INNOVATIVE. IT ALSO KEEPS THE CHANCE THAT NO NEW TAX DOLLARS GO TOWARDS THAT EFFORT.

THANK YOU CONSTABLE. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? MOTION. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GONZALEZ. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALSO, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I HAVE CONSTABLES TO HAVE THAT, CONSTABLE VASQUEZ. WERE Y'ALL WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, BY ANY CHANCE? OTHERWISE I'LL COURT. I'M GOING TO DO THE BEST I CAN TO ACCOMMODATE YOU.

BUT WE ALSO ARE RUNNING UP ON TIME SURGEON. SO IF YOU'LL BE PATIENT WITH ME, CONSTABLE'S TOGETHER.

I'LL GET BACK TO YOU THIS TIME. LET US NOW TAKE UP THE TIME.

CERTAIN 10:00. WE'RE IN A LITTLE BEHIND PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION, APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE 2025 AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX RATE RECOMMENDATION. BURKE COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT, DBA UNIVERSITY HEALTH IN SUPPORT OF ITS OPERATING DEBT SERVICE OUTLOOK FOR FY 2026.

MR. BADASS. YOUR TEAM. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MR. BARNES AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HERE TODAY TO PRESENT ON THE PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE RECOMMENDATION TO US.

I UNDERSTAND WE'RE KEEPING IT THE SAME. ALSO TWO, I WANT TO NOTE THAT COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS WORKED WITH US IN RECENT YEARS TO MAXIMIZE THE UNIVERSITY OF HEALTH SYSTEM HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

I THINK, COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH VERY INVOLVED WITH THAT, WHICH IS NOW CAPPED AT THE MAXIMUM OF 20%.

I WANT TO REMIND OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO CLAIM THOSE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS THROUGH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

MR. HASLAM, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. THE MISSION OF UNIVERSITY HEALTH IS TO IMPROVE GOOD HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH HIGH QUALITY, COMPASSIONATE PATIENT CARE, INNOVATION, EDUCATION AND DISCOVERY.

WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS.

UNIVERSITY HEALTH STAFF CONTINUALLY PURSUE IMPROVEMENTS IN ALL FOUR AREAS OF THE TRIPLE LANE PLUS.

OUR VISION IS TO BE ONE OF THE NATION'S MOST TRUSTED HEALTH CARE INSTITUTIONS.

IN RESPONSE TO INCREASING PROPERTY TAX VALUE.

STAFF HAS WORKED WITH WITH THE BEXAR COUNTY BOARD OF MANAGERS, THE HOSPITAL BOARD OF MANAGERS COMMISSIONERS COURT TO IMPLEMENT VARIOUS EXEMPTIONS TO HELP MITIGATE THE IMPACT ON PROPERTY OWNERS. SO WITH ME TODAY IS MY VICE CHAIR, ANITA FERNANDEZ.

DOCTOR KELLY HAD TO LEAVE. SHE'S ON CALL AND HER PHONE RANG.

AND. AND WHEN DOCTORS PHONES RING, THEY'VE GOT TO LEAVE.

SO I WANT TO THANK MARGARET FOR ALL THAT SHE DOES.

SHE'S AN EXCELLENT BOARD MEMBER, AND WE ARE HERE TO ASK PERMISSION FOR THE TAX RATE.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL INTRODUCE ED BANOS, RED HURLEY, LENNY KIRKMAN, DOCTOR ALSUP.

OH, I'M SORRY, DOCTOR COHEN. I DIDN'T SEE YOU COME IN.

DOCTOR COHEN IS HERE. DON'T Y'ALL WANT TO JOIN? I'M CALLING YOU ALL OUT. COME ON. COME HERE. COME ON.

TED DE BILL PHILLIPS. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE TEAM HERE.

WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING TEAM. ALL OF OUR TEAM.

SO, SURE Y'ALL WANT TO STAY SEATED? OKAY. GO AHEAD.

MR.. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO THANK OUR COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR STRONG SUPPORT.

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I WANT TO ALSO THANK YOU, JUDGE, FOR WORKING WITH US AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE SANTA ROSA FACILITY AND THE MEDICAL CENTER. I WANT TO THANK THE COURT, THE COMMISSIONERS, FOR THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND PATIENCE.

WE HAVE NOT CLOSED YET, BUT WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO DOING IT.

THIS WILL BE A MAJOR GAME CHANGER. THE BOARD OF MANAGERS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO HELP GET US TO TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK THEM. AND I KNOW DOCTOR COHEN IS VERY PLEASED WITH THIS, ALONG WITH ANITA.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER SO WE CAN GET THIS MOVING, BECAUSE I KNOW TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR FRIENDSHIP.

THANK YOU. JIMMY. MISTER BADASS, THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONERS, ED VANCE, CEO OF UNIVERSITY HEALTH.

AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TODAY TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR 2025.

I WOULD LIKE TO JUST AS MR. HASLUCK TALKED ABOUT, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR QUALITY PATIENT EXPERIENCE, EFFICIENCIES AND ACCESS TO IMPROVE FOR OUR BEXAR COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND UNIVERSITY HEALTH AND FOR ALL THE CITIZENS OF BEXAR COUNTY AND SOUTH TEXAS.

WE DID WANT TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF UPDATES OF WHERE WE ARE IN SOME OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

THIS IS A RENDERING OF OUR PALO ALTO CAMPUS AND VITAE FROM WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN FINALLY COMPLETED.

THIS IS OUR CURRENT CONSTRUCTION OF OUR PALO ALTO CAMPUS.

THE VTA FACILITY, WHICH WE GOT APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS, WHICH IS OUR THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING, IS OVER ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOSPITAL IS MOVING WELL.

THIS IS LOCATED RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE TEXAS A&M SAN ANTONIO CAMPUS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT 78% LOCAL PARTICIPATION IN OUR CONSTRUCTION HERE IN THIS HOSPITAL AND MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S ATTACHED TO OUR CAMPUS. WE'RE BUILDING THE EXACT SAME HOSPITAL.

IT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT JUST FROM A TOPOGRAPHY LAYOUT.

THAT FACILITY IS MOVING ALONG AS WELL. THAT IS JUST THE OFFICE, MEDICAL OFFICE, BUILDING AND HOSPITAL.

AND WE ARE AT 73% LOCAL PARTICIPATION IN THAT THAT FACILITY.

OUR VTA FACILITY, WHICH WILL BE OPENING LATER THIS YEAR.

THIS IS THE RENDERING WITH 86% PARTICIPATION.

THIS IS THE WAY IT CURRENTLY LOOKS, BLENDING IN WELL WITH THE TEXAS A&M CAMPUS.

WE WILL HAVE PRIMARY CARE, SPECIALTY CARE AND PHARMACY AVAILABLE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

OUR INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND ALSO COMMUNITY OUTREACH SPACE FOR PUBLIC ORGANIZATIONS TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR IMPROVING HEALTH CARE SPACE AVAILABLE ON THAT SECOND FLOOR. AND OUR THIRD FLOOR IS OUR OUTPATIENT ADOLESCENT AND ADULT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AND HAVE PHYSICIANS, CLINICIANS, SOCIAL WORKERS AND OTHERS ALREADY HIRED FOR THIS FACILITY.

THEY WILL BE OPEN WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE AND WHEN IT OPENS LATER THIS YEAR, WE'LL HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.

THIS IS THE INSIDE. CURRENTLY, WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE FINAL FINISHES.

OUR UNIVERSITY HEALTH WHEATLEY LOCATION. THIS IS A CURRENT PICTURE OF IT.

IT IS CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETED. THIS IS 74%. THIS WILL HAVE URGENT SPECIALTY CARE AND PRIMARY CARE.

URGENT CARE WILL BE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. UP UNTIL 8:00 AT NIGHT.

WE WILL ALSO HAVE AN OUTPATIENT PHARMACY ON THAT.

SO THE PATIENTS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR MEDICATIONS.

THIS IS CLOSER TO BEING COMPLETED. AS YOU CAN SEE THE FINISHES THE FLOORING IS OUT AND WE'RE VERY CLOSE.

AND THAT WILL BE IN OCTOBER. I THINK WE WILL HAVE OUR OPENING ON GRANT ON THAT DATE IN OCTOBER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UNIVERSITY HEALTH HAS SEEN OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS IS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE HOSPITAL CENSUS.

JUST A LITTLE UNDER TEN YEARS AGO, THE HOSPITAL HAD 458 PATIENTS.

THROUGH 2025, OUR AVERAGE CENSUS IS 793. WITH OUR CENSUS MANY DAYS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS BEING OVER 800 AND A FEW DAYS, WE'VE ACTUALLY WERE OVER 900.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS HAS LED FROM 26,000 DISCHARGES TO 42,000 DISCHARGES.

THE DEMAND CONTINUES TO GROW NOT ONLY WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY, BUT ALSO FOR OUR SPECIALIZED SERVICES SUCH AS TRANSPLANT OR PEDIATRIC AND ADULT LEVEL ONE TRAUMA CARE AND ALL THE SPECIALIZED SERVICES THAT WE PARTNER WITH.

WITH UT HEALTH IN MAKING SURE THAT UCH IS THE HOSPITAL TO GO TO FOR ADVANCED SPECIALTY CARE.

OUR NICU, WHICH IS OUR NEONATAL INTENSIVE CARE UNIT, IS OUR PART OF OUR WOMEN'S AND CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.

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WHEN WE FIRST BUILT THIS HOSPITAL, THE NICU WAS RUNNING AROUND A CENSUS OF 50.

OUR AVERAGE DAILY CENSUS IS 67 SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WE WENT OVER 90.

WE ARE TAKING PATIENT TRANSFERS FROM SMALL BABIES FROM 1 TO 2 POUNDS FROM ALL ACROSS SOUTH TEXAS.

AND WE HAVE IN MANY TIMES A LOT OF THESE ARE MULTIPLE BIRTHS.

WE'VE HAD QUAD BABIES, TRIPLET BABIES, TWO SETS OF TRIPLETS.

I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT SETS OF TWINS ALL ABOUT TO DELIVER THAT GO INTO OUR NICU FOR VARIOUS TIME, AND IT CONTINUES TO GROW. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR SURGICAL TREND, WE DID ABOUT 20,000 SURGERIES IN 2015.

AND NOW WE'LL WE'LL CRACK OVER 34,000 THIS YEAR IN 2025.

SO THE DEMAND FOR ALL THE SERVICES AT UNIVERSITY HEALTH CONTINUES TO GROW.

AS MR. HASLINGER TALKED TO YOU, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND I WANT TO THANK KRISTA FOR REACHING OUT TO US WHEN WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE CLOSING THE MEDICAL CENTER HOSPITAL THEY MADE A PHONE CALL TO US TO LET US KNOW RIGHT BEFORE THEY RELEASED THE NEWS AND SAID THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD BE CLOSING. AND THAT STARTED OUR CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT REOPENING THIS FACILITY.

THIS IS A UNIQUE FACILITY. FROM A SIZE STANDPOINT, IT'S 45 ACRES IN THE MEDICAL CENTER.

IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PROPERTIES THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN THE MEDICAL CENTERS.

IF MY IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I THINK THE SISTERS GOT THIS ACREAGE IN THE EARLY 60S.

WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THIS AND DEVELOPING IT AND JUST FROM A CAPACITY STANDPOINT OF LAND.

UNIVERSITY HEALTH IS ONLY ON 22 ACRES. NOW, WE HAD TO GO VERTICAL, AND WE WENT UP 12 FLOORS AND AND GOT TIGHT DENSITY.

BUT THIS IS ON 45 ACRES. ON THE, ON THE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THE TWO THE HOSPITAL IS NUMBER TWO.

IT'S ABOUT 236,000FT². A FOUR STORY BUILDING.

THE THE PURPLE BUILDINGS ARE BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE WHEN IT'S ACQUIRED, WILL BE OWNED BY UNIVERSITY HEALTH. ALL OF THE LAND WILL BE OWNED. THE SORT OF MAGENTA COLORED ONES ARE PRIVATE OFFICE BUILDINGS, BUT THEY ACTUALLY PAY A GROUND LEASE. SO WE OWN THE LAND, BUT THE OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE PRIVATE, AND WE SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR UNIVERSITY HEALTH TO HANDLE THOSE CAPACITY DEMANDS THAT WE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION.

CHRISTIE'S ALSO DECIDED TO BUILD A FIVE ACRE SOLAR FARM.

BEFORE THEY CLOSED, THEY DIDN'T COMPLETE IT. IT'S NOW COMPLETED.

IT HASN'T BEEN TURNED ON, BUT WE ARE THE BENEFACTORS OF A FIVE ACRE SOLAR FARM THAT WILL SAVE US ABOUT $150,000 IN ELECTRIC PER YEAR.

ONCE IT'S ACTIVATED, WE SEE THIS HOSPITAL AS A OPPORTUNITY TO HELP DECOMPRESS THE HIGH.

HI. THE LOWER LEVEL ACUITY PATIENTS THAT ARE AT UNIVERSITY HEALTH IN THE MEDICAL CENTER AND HAVING BEDS AND OPERATING ROOMS AVAILABLE FOR, AGAIN, THE HIGH LEVEL CARE THAT MANY DAYS WE CAN'T TAKE BECAUSE OF CAPACITY.

THIS IS LICENSED AND AS AN ACUTE CARE HOSPITAL, IT'S BEEN CLOSED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED ITS CLOSURE.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND GET IT RELICENSED AS AN ACUTE CARE HOSPITAL.

AND WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE STATE WHILE WE GO THROUGH THE FINAL AGREEMENTS AND THE DUE DILIGENCE WE HAVE ENTERED INTO WITH BOARD APPROVAL PURCHASE SERVICE AGREEMENT OF THE PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT FOR FOR THIS PROPERTY.

I WANTED TO SHARE THIS AS WELL. I THINK SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT WHO WE SERVE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENT OF PATIENTS THAT WE SERVE.

WE REALLY DO SERVE ALL THE THE FOUR DISTRICTS OR PRECINCTS THAT WE HAVE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S OVER 1 MILLION OUTPATIENT VISITS THAT COME THROUGH UNIVERSITY HEALTH, AND THEY'RE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE PRECINCTS.

AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THE PRECINCTS FROM A PERCENTAGE, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF INPATIENT DISCHARGES.

OUR HOSPITAL, OUR PALO ALTO HOSPITAL WILL HELP PRECINCT FOUR AND PRECINCT ONE HELP DECOMPRESS SOME OF THAT VOLUME THAT IS HAVING TO DRIVE UP TO UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE DECOMPRESSION WITH THE CHRISTUS HOSPITAL WILL ACTUALLY HELP DECOMPRESS SOME OF PRECINCT TWO AND PRECINCT THREE BY HAVING AVAILABILITY. WE DO GET ABOUT 9% OF OUR ADMISSIONS FROM OUTSIDE OF BEXAR COUNTY.

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THAT'S, AGAIN, FOR THE HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE AND OTHERS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S ALSO STRATEGICALLY WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT AND EXPANDING THOSE THE COMMUNITY HOSPITALS AND NOW THE CHRISTUS SANTA ROSA PROPERTY.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT REED HURLEY, WHO WILL GO THROUGH THE FINANCIAL CHANGES FOR OUR 2026 BUDGET AND THEN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT LEGISLATURE THAT'S HAPPENING.

THANK YOU. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, REED HURLEY, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AT UNIVERSITY HEALTH.

WHENEVER WE DO THE WHAT WE CALL OUR TAX RATE BUDGET, WE PUT TOGETHER A FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL BUDGET.

WE REMOVE COMMUNITY FIRST HEALTH PLANS, WHICH IS OUR INSURANCE COMPANY.

SO THIS IS JUST WHAT WE CALL OUR CLINICAL SERVICES DIVISION.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON AT THE STATE LEVEL AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

SOME OF THE THINGS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WERE PLANNED TO OCCUR.

REDUCTIONS IN WHAT WE CALL DISH FUNDING, WHICH THEY'VE KICKED THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.

THAT'S UP AGAIN TO THOSE REDUCTIONS ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO GO IN PLACE.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A SCHEDULED ENDING OF THE ENHANCED TAX SUBSIDIES FOR THE EXCHANGE PLANS.

AND SO PEOPLE THAT ARE IN EXCHANGE PLANS, THEY GET A DISCOUNT OFF OF THAT NORMAL PREMIUM WOULD BE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN AN ENHANCED DISCOUNT AGAIN THAT'S SCHEDULED TO END IN JANUARY 1ST, 2026.

IF THAT ENDS, WE ANTICIPATE THAT ABOUT HALF OF THOSE EXCHANGE MEMBERS MAY DROP THAT COVERAGE, WHICH WOULD DECREASE OUR REVENUE FROM FROM PAID PAYERS.

AND WE'D PROBABLY HAVE MORE UNFUNDED PATIENTS.

SOME OF THOSE COULD MOVE TO MEDICAID, SOME MIGHT MOVE TO CARE LINK.

THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE CONSIDER AT RISK.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE $185 MILLION A YEAR, WHAT WE CALL DIRECTED PAYMENT PROGRAMS. AND THOSE ARE APPROVED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FROM CMS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY LOSS OF THOSE. WE JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT THAT'S AN ANNUAL APPROVAL THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS GETS.

AND MOST OF THE HOSPITALS IN TEXAS PARTICIPATE IN THESE.

AND THEN WE HAVE A $34 MILLION A YEAR PROGRAM CALLED NAPE NECK NETWORK ACCESS IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH WILL END IN SEPTEMBER OF 2027. AND WE'LL LOSE THAT 34 MILLION THIS YEAR WITH THE PROPOSAL OF KEEPING THE EXISTING TAX RATE THAT WILL ADD $17 MILLION TO OUR REVENUE LAST YEAR. OUR REVENUE WENT DOWN $21 MILLION.

WHEN WE INCREASE THE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO THE MAXIMUM 20%.

ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, AS I MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE CONTINUING DEMAND FOR SERVICES.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO INCREASE STAFF TO COVER THOSE SERVICES IN THE SECOND HALF OF 2026.

WILL START STAFFING UP FOR THE COMMUNITY HOSPITALS.

WE'LL START BRINGING NEW STAFF ON TRAINING THEM IN ANTICIPATION OF THOSE HOSPITALS OPENING SO WE CAN GET THOSE STAFFED UP.

THERE MAY BE SOME TARIFF RELATED PRICE INCREASES.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE DRUGS AND OTHER THINGS WE BUY MAY COME IN FROM OVERSEAS.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN AN IMPACT FROM THAT YET.

SORT OF. THAT'S YET TO BE UNKNOWN. SO WE'RE LAYERING IN A COUPLE OF PERCENTAGES INCREASES JUST IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE ALWAYS ARE KEEPING OUR OLDER BUILDINGS, ROOFS, AIR CONDITIONERS, UPGRADES TO THOSE OLDER CLINICS TO TRY TO KEEP THEM MEETING OUR STANDARDS. SO AGAIN, WHEN WE DO THE TAX RATE BUDGET, WE USUALLY WE TAKE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

BUT AGAIN, JUST CLINICAL SERVICES ONLY. WE ANTICIPATE ALMOST $2.8 BILLION IN TOTAL REVENUES.

THAT'LL PRODUCE ABOUT $150 MILLION GAIN FROM OPERATIONS.

THEN WHEN YOU THROW IN THE NON-OPERATING ITEMS, PRIMARILY DEPRECIATION EXPENSE, THAT'LL GET US TO A BOTTOM LINE PROJECTED OF ABOUT $38 MILLION. AGAIN, THIS IS ALWAYS A CONSERVATIVE GUESS, WE HOPE AND WE PLAN ON DOING BETTER.

AGAIN, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND WE DON'T KNOW. SOMETIMES WE CAN GUESS WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE, BUT IF THOSE ENHANCED SUBSIDIES GO AWAY, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT IMPACT IS GOING TO BE.

SO WE ARE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE ON OUR REVENUES.

FROM A PROPERTY VALUE STANDPOINT THE THE ASSESSED VALUES FOR THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT INCREASED 3.4% THIS YEAR TO $315 BILLION. ACTUALLY, THE HOMESTEAD RESIDENCES WENT UP 2.7%.

AND THAT COULD BE A MULTIPLE FACTORS. NEW HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT.

IT COULD BE THAT PEOPLE THAT OWNED A RENTAL HOUSE SOLD THEIR HOUSE TO SOMEBODY THAT CLAIMED HOMESTEAD, OR MAYBE JUST MORE PEOPLE CLAIMED HOMESTEAD THAT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT CLAIMING A HOMESTEAD, PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE OR WHATNOT.

AVERAGE MARKET VALUE IS JUST UNDER 337,000. AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE IS ALMOST 270,000.

THE AVERAGE TAX AT A HOMESTEAD TAXPAYER PAID TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT IS $746.

THERE'S $85 SAVINGS PER YEAR, BASED ON THE EXEMPTIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE OF THE 20% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION,

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WHICH WENT INTO EFFECT IN 2024. LAST YEAR WILL SAVE TAXPAYERS $74 MILLION, OR ABOUT $172,000 FOR THE AVERAGE HOME.

AND THEN WE HAVE A $30,000 OVER 65 EXEMPTION, WHICH WILL SAVE TAXPAYERS ABOUT $12 MILLION, OR ABOUT $75 A YEAR FOR THOSE TAXPAYERS THAT ARE OVER OVER 65.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER MAJOR TAXES, HOSPITALS OUR TAX REVENUE IS ABOUT 19% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET.

WE'RE COMPARABLE OR LOWER THAN THE OTHER OTHER MAJORS.

THE OTHER DALLAS AND HARRIS, THE OTHER TWO LARGE ONES ACTUALLY GET MORE REVENUE.

THEY'RE FROM A PERCENTAGE STANDPOINT, THEY'RE A LITTLE OVER US THAN TARRANT COUNTY GETS LESS REVENUE.

BUT FROM A PERCENTAGE STANDPOINT, THEY'RE WAY OVER US.

SO AGAIN, THE PROPOSALS TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING RATE OF THE 235.

ITS ROUNDED ON THE SLIDE TO FOUR, AND THERE'S JUST A VERY, VERY SLIGHT MOVEMENT BETWEEN M AND O AND DEBT SERVICE JUST TO COVER OUR DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FOR NEXT YEAR. AND AGAIN, THAT WILL PRODUCE 17.3 MILLION MORE IN MONO AND A 100,000 MORE.

WE HAVE TO MOVE INTO DEBT SERVICE TO COVER THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR BETWEEN ME AND EDITOR.

AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. ED REED, THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION. I KNOW THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE A MORE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION AS WE GET CLOSER TO YOUR ADOPTING YOUR BUDGET AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO TOO MANY DETAILS.

YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB. I WAS READING IN THE, I GUESS IN THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE US THAT IT SAYS THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 2025, COMPARED TO THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 24 FOUR VOLUMES HAVE INCREASED BY OVER 10% IN MOST OF THE CLINICAL AREAS.

IS THAT IS THAT CONSISTENT, WOULD YOU SAY, WITH WHEN YOU LOOK YEAR OVER YEAR, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, OR IS THAT SEEM TO BE INCREASING THAT 10% NUMBER? IT'S IT'S FAIRLY CONSISTENT. WE DID SEE A ACTUALLY NEGATIVE DURING COVID BACK IN 2020.

AND THAT'S HAPPENED TO ALL THE HOSPITALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. UNLESS YOU WERE IN AN AREA THAT WAS SEVERELY IMPACTED BY COVID, BUT JUST EVERYBODY STAYED HOME. YEAH. THEY DIDN'T COME AND GET ELECTIVE SURGERIES AND WHATNOT.

SO SERVICES REALLY DROPPED OFF IN 2020. AND THEN IT TOOK A FEW YEARS AFTER THAT.

THOSE LIKE 2122 TO KIND OF START TO RECOVER. BUT FOR THE MOST PART EVERY YEAR WE'VE SEEN 7 TO 8% INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR.

OKAY. AND TYPICALLY IN MOST IN MY PRIOR LIFE AND FOR PROFIT HEALTHCARE AND OTHER PLACES, IF YOU CAN GET TWO AND A HALF TO 3% GROWTH A YEAR IN HEALTHCARE, USUALLY YOU'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD, RIGHT? CAN.

CAN YOU GO BACK? GO AHEAD. I SAID I WOULD SAY THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY DOING IS IS WORKING WITH THE MEDICAL SCHOOL, BUT ALSO OUR EMPLOYED PHYSICIAN PRACTICE, UMA, IN GETTING ACCESS TO CARE.

SO WE'VE BEEN HIRING MORE PRIMARY CARE DOCTORS.

WE'VE BEEN HIRING MORE SPECIALISTS. AND WE THINK THAT THE DEMAND.

WE KNOW THAT THE DEMAND IS THERE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

NOW WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT PROVIDERS TO ACCESS THE CARE.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO DRIVING A LOT OF OUR VOLUME, IS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING IN ALL OF THESE OUTPATIENT CLINICS AND ALL OF THE HOSPITAL.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING MORE PHYSICIANS AND MORE PROVIDERS THAT ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE CARE FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT. OKAY. THE SLIDE THAT YOU HAD THAT HAD PERCENTAGES BY PRECINCT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT. THAT ONE THERE.

SO THIS IS BASED ON THE I GUESS, THE PATIENT'S HOME ADDRESS.

IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. SO, LOOK, I LIKE BEING NUMBER ONE, BUT I DON'T LIKE NECESSARILY BEING NUMBER ONE HERE.

PRECINCT TWO. BUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IS THE DATA YOU COLLECT, AND I KNOW THERE'S PRIVACY ISSUES, BUT IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE REASONS PEOPLE ARE BEING ADMITTED OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN TIE THAT INTO PREVENTATIVE PROGRAMS. IS THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE FIRST OF ALL, KEEPING AND SECOND OF ALL.

SECOND OF ALL UTILIZING IN SOME CAPACITY TO TRY AND PLUG INTO THE PREVENTATIVE PROGRAMS. YEAH, YEAH. OUR INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, THAT WAS CREATED A FEW YEARS AGO.

WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE BOARD, AND WE REVIEW OUR DATA.

WE LOOK AT THAT BY DISEASE SPECIFIC. WE HAVE DOCTOR CAROL HUBER, PHD, IN PUBLIC HEALTH, WHO LEADS THAT INITIATIVE WITH US.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MAJOR CAUSES OF CANCER BY PRECINCT OR LOOKING AT DIABETES ACROSS THE AREA, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ON HOW WE CAN WORK ON PREVENTION AS WELL AS WELLNESS.

AND THAT'S LEADING SOME OF OUR. OUR CHARGE. WE'RE DOING A LOT TO GET INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET HEALTHIER STUDENTS EARLIER BEFORE THEY HAVE CHRONIC DISEASE.

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SO WE ARE FOCUSING OUR WHOLE PUBLIC HEALTH SIDE OF THAT INTO HOW WE CAN LOOK AT PREVENTATIVE CARE, HOW WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT GETTING THE NEXT GENERATION HEALTHIER AND CONTINUE THAT.

OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. I ASSUME THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HEAR THAT PUBLICLY.

LAST QUESTION ON THE NEW CAMPUS, THE NEW CHRISTUS CAMPUS 45 ACRES.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY HAS BROWN LEASES ON IT, BUT I WANTED TO JUST PUT IN A PLAN, A SEED PLUG FOR DOWN THE ROAD AT SOME POINT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED A NEW MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.

I KNOW WE'RE DOING SOME RENOVATION TO AN EXISTING FACILITY.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR, BUT DOWN THE ROAD.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ON, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL LOCATION TO TO MAYBE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I'M NOT ASKING FOR A COMMITMENT TODAY, JUST A CONVERSATION.

AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. JUDGE, I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES MAY HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE THE MOTION BECAUSE IT IS STATUTORILY REQUIRED.

AND THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE HERE THAT WE HAVE TO READ IN. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL TO SET THE 2025 TOTAL TAX RATE IN SUPPORT OF BEXAR COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT DOING BUSINESSES, UNIVERSITY HEALTH OPERATING AND DEBT SERVICE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 BY ADOPTION OF THE EXISTING TOTAL TAX RATE OF 0.27623 $0.05 PER $100 PROPERTY VALUATION, RECORD SUCH VOTE AND SET A PUBLIC HEARING AND A VOTE AS FOLLOWS. PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025 AT 9:30 A.M.

AND A VOTE ON THE TAX RATE ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING AND VOTE ON THE TAX RATE WILL BE HELD ON THE.

THE DOUBLE HEIGHT COURTROOM. SECOND FLOOR. BEXAR COUNTY COURTHOUSE 100.

DELA ROSA, SUITE 2.01, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVIN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, HI. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THE SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD EACH NEW BUILDING THAT'S BEING DONE, THAT YOU HAD THE PERCENTAGE OF LOCAL PARTICIPATION.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING I TALK ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION NOW, BUT IF YOU COULD GET TO MY OFFICE, I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WITHIN THAT LOCAL PARTICIPATION PERCENTAGE OF THESE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THOSE ARE REALLY HUGE, ESPECIALLY 86% AT VIDA.

AND PART OF RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, IN TERMS OF PREVENTATIVE HEALTH.

THAT'S WHY WE WORKED SO HARD. AND I SPECIFICALLY FOUGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PREVENTIVE HEALTH BUILDING IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, NEXT TO THE NEW US SOUTH SIDE HOSPITAL, BECAUSE IN 2020, DURING COVID, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE SOUTH SIDE HAD THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE RATES OF COVID AND DEATHS. SO OTHER DISTRICTS FELT SAYING THEIR NAME WEREN'T DOING THEIR JOB WHERE I WAS WORKING AT THE TIME. THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE OUR OWN PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

DOCTOR ANDREA, I SAW HER HERE SOMEWHERE IN DAN CURRIE.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM. SOMEHOW THAT GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION.

BUT WHEN JUDGE WOLF AND I TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THIS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, PART OF THAT WAS TO HAVE THE NEW DEPARTMENT DOCTOR ANDREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS WELL. AND I MENTIONED THAT TO YOU, AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE YOU WERE NEW. SO DAN CURRIE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS. I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU, EDITOR. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF OUR FULL TIME STAFF ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE IN THE NEW VIDA PREVENTIVE HEALTH BUILDING FOR THAT PURPOSES.

ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS, ED, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT IN THE NEW BUILDING THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BUILD, WHICH IS WONDERFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MENTAL HEALTH, THAT'S BECAUSE WE NEED THAT AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.

AND SO IT'S TAKING LONGER THAN I WOULD LIKE AT FASH OR FROM THE STATE.

AND SO WE CANNOT WAIT FOR THE STATE. SO WE NEED TO DO IT OUR OWN SELVES.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THAT LEAD. AND OF COURSE THE SLIDE THAT'S UP NOW, PRECINCT ONE 24.9%.

I AM PART OF THAT 24.9%. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CARE THAT I CONTINUE TO GET.

I WAS JUST THERE YESTERDAY. I HAVE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT NEXT WEEK AS I CONTINUE TO RECOVER FROM COLON CANCER.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND I WILL BE CONTACTING YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S COLON CANCER WINNERS MORE HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY IN MARCH. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER CALVERT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO PROBABLY START WITH YOU.

MY COMMENTS AND MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON ALLEVIATING THE INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUENTS IN THE COMMUNITIES FINANCIAL PAIN.

THAT'S AS A RESULT OF CHANGES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

I NOTED THAT IN YOUR BRIEFING HERE, YOU HAVE THE FACT THAT PREMIUMS ARE GOING TO INCREASE BY 75% FOR FOLKS WHO

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ARE EXCHANGE PLAN MEMBERS AND HIGHER OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS.

YOU MENTIONED AS A SOLUTION, TRANSITIONING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY CARE.

I MEAN CAROLYN, THANK YOU. OTHER I GOT SOME THINGS IN MY HEAD.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. I GOT MIXED UP THERE. ALL THEIR NAMES, I HAVE CARE IN THEM, SO I GET MIXED UP.

BUT IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO MARKET? DO WE? I'M SURE WE HAVE A DATABASE OF WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE, SO THAT WE COULD GIVE THEM A HEADS UP THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD YOU COME TO UNIVERSITY FOR CARE, YOU NEED TO BE AWARE. EFFECTIVE X DATE 75% INCREASE OUT OF YOUR PREMIUM.

SO ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW WE CAN EMAIL TEXT MAIL MARKET.

I GUESS WE COULD LOOK AT YOU KNOW FREQUENT UTILIZES.

SOME PEOPLE MAY ONLY COME TO THE ER ONE TIME.

YOU KNOW THEY MAY NOT BE A FREQUENT USER, BUT WE COULD LOOK AT A RUN SOME REPORTS ON FREQUENCY OF VISITS AND DRAW THE LINE.

IF THEY'VE HAD SO MANY VISITS IN THE LAST YEAR, MAYBE WE CAN NOTIFY THEM SOMEHOW.

AGAIN, WE'RE HOPEFUL AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR STATE DELEGATE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE ENHANCED SUBSIDIES CONTINUED, OR AT LEAST MAYBE HAVE SOME KIND OF A PHASED OUT APPROACH AS OPPOSED TO JUST DROPPING OFF THE CLIFF.

SO STILL MORE TO COME ON THAT, I GUESS THIS FALL, WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, BUT WE CAN START COMING UP WITH SOME CONTINGENCY PLANS ON HOW TO WORK WITH THOSE PATIENTS TO EITHER GET THEM TO QUALIFY FOR CARE OR SOME OTHER KIND OF CHARITY PROGRAM OR MEDICAID OR SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE WHY.

NUMBER ONE, CAUSE OF BANKRUPTCY FOR FOLKS IS MEDICAL EXPENSES.

AND BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T DO A LOT OF QUESTIONING OF THE MEDICAL MEDICAL EXPENSES, THEY THEY JUST KIND OF THROW THEIR HANDS AT IT.

AND AND BECAUSE MONEY IS SO TIGHT WITH THE COST OF EVERYTHING BEING SO HIGH IT CAN COMPOUND IN OUR COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR, IN A BIG HURRY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THOSE VISITS YOU GOT GOING UP.

AND AS A RESULT, THERE COULD BE A COMMENSURATE IMPACT IN THE LARGER COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST WANT US TO REALLY KIND OF DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR DNA AND THINK ABOUT HOW IT IMPACTS OUR USERS.

LET ME GO TO THE SECOND ONE WHICH YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THE BIG BOLOGNA BILL.

I'M GOING TO CALL IT THAT. THERE WAS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES RELATED TO ABLE BODY.

AND YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THIS REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, PREGNANT WOMEN ARE A BIG PART OF THAT.

CHILDREN ARE A BIG PART OF THAT. SO THERE'S LESS OF MAYBE AN IMPACT.

BUT I DO THINK, AGAIN, HERE IN HELPING PEOPLE'S POCKETBOOKS A MARKETING PROGRAM ON THE RENEWAL COMMITMENT OUT OF US, HOW DO WE I MEAN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALL, MAYBE IT'S AN AD, MAYBE IT'S A BOTH OF YOU QUESTION, HOW DO WE WORK WITH EVERYONE FROM THE FOOD BANK TO OUR CLINICS TO OUR CLINICIANS TO OUR, YOU KNOW FOLKS WHO DISCHARGE TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, HAVE EVERY FORM OF MARKETING, GUERRILLA MARKETING, YOU KNOW, THIS WEEK, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS NEXT TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE I GUESS THERE'S PROBABLY AN END DATE, A CLOSURE DATE OF ENROLLMENT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET YOU INTO A, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTH PLAN TO BE AWARE THROUGH BILLBOARDS ONLINE, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF WAYS. ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW DO WE DO THIS? JUST AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE OVER AT TEXAS A&M, AND WE INVITED ALL THE NON FOR PROFITS AND OTHERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US IN THE VIDA BUILDING.

AND WE MADE A LOT OF CONNECTIONS FROM THE FOOD BANK TO NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED, THAT WE HAD CASE MANAGEMENT LEADERSHIP THERE AND OTHERS.

AND THIS HAS BEEN A CONTINUAL PUSH SINCE THAT MEETING WE'VE HAD A FEW MONTHS AGO DOWN AT ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

BUT IT IS WE ARE CONTINUALLY THROUGH OUR LEADERSHIP MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HERE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

WE KNOW ABOUT IT, AND WE CAN REFER IN THROUGH OUR CASE MANAGEMENT AND IN OUR CARE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PROGRAMS THAT HELP PEOPLE GETTING THEM QUALIFIED.

WE ACTUALLY RUN ANYONE WHO IS UNINSURED OR IN CARE TO SEE IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR OTHER PROGRAMS THROUGH A COMPUTER SYSTEM AND THROUGH THE FINANCIAL SERVICES. SO IF THERE IS ANY SOURCE OF FUNDING OR ALTERNATIVE COVERAGE, WE CAN ACTUALLY GET EVERY PATIENT THAT AVAILABILITY AND WE RUN IT.

AND JUST TO, TO SHARE WITH YOU. I MEAN, THESE SUBSIDIES HAVE AN EFFECT ON ALL OF OUR HOSPITALS IN BEXAR COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A SUBSIDIZED PATIENT RIGHT NOW IN THE EXCHANGE PROGRAM, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO METHODIST,

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BAPTIST, OR CHRISTUS IF YOUR SUBSIDY GOES AWAY, THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL THE HOSPITALS WILL BE FEELING THIS IMPACT.

SO WE THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF OUR HOSPITALS AND OTHERS TO PUT THE PRESSURE ON OUR FEDERAL LEVELS TO GET THIS SUBSIDY CONTINUED FURTHER. WELL, AND WHILE I'M FOCUSING ON THE PERSON WHO NEEDS THE HELP.

YOU KNOW THAT GETTING THEM INTO A PROPER INSURANCE PACKAGE IS BETTER FOR OUR SYSTEM, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU IS PROBABLY BEYOND JUST THE NON PROFIT CONVERSATION.

I'M SUGGESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SPENDING $1 MILLION ON MARKETING A YEAR, LET'S MAYBE LOOK AT 250,000 FOR MARKETING THESE NEW ABLE BODY REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER CHANGES SO THAT IT JUST KIND OF GETS THAT CONVERSATION GOING, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT TILL THEY'RE IN THAT EMERGENCY SITUATION.

AND IF THE ENROLLMENT DATE IS AN ISSUE, IT COULD BE TOO LATE.

SO I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THAT.

LET ME ASK YOU, READ AN AD WITH THE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AT THE URGENT CARE ON TEN IN HOUSTON.

IT CLOSES TIL EIGHT. IF YOU SEE A DEMAND FOR, YOU KNOW, LATER HOURS.

HOW DO YOU I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE MATRICES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO DETERMINE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A LONGER HOUR OPERATION? IT'S IT'S DEMAND. I MEAN, WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT A CLINIC, WE USUALLY PICK 8 TO 8.

WE HAVE SOME CLINICS THAT ARE EXPRESS MED THAT ARE ONLY OPEN TILL 6 OR 7 IN CERTAIN DAYS.

BECAUSE WE TYPICAL HOSPITALS, EVERYTHING IS VERY PREDICTABLE.

AFTER YOU GET A COUPLE OF MONTHS TREND, IT'S VERY PREDICTABLE PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME AND HOW IT'S GOING.

SO IF THERE IS A DEMAND OVER ON THE WEEKLY CLINIC AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF AFTER HOURS TYPE OF WORK OR LATER IN THE EVENINGS, THEN WE WOULD JUST WORK WITH OUR PHYSICIANS AND EXTENDING THOSE HOURS LATER IF WE NEED TO OPENING THEM EARLIER, WE WOULD DO THAT. BUT IT'S IT'S PRETTY PREDICTABLE ONCE YOU GET A PERIOD OF TIME.

WE KNOW OUR ERS, WE KNOW OUR EXPRESS MED CLINICS, HOW MANY THEY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND IT REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE. IT INCREASES DURING FLU SEASON, OF COURSE, CERTAIN SEASONAL TIMES, WE'LL SEE CHANGES, BUT WE'LL KNOW PROBABLY AFTER A FEW MONTHS WHAT THE RIGHT TIMES ARE WITH RESPECT TO THE CHRISTMAS ACQUISITION.

ARE YOU PLANNING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ON THE RENOVATIONS OF THE.

I VISITED ONE OF MY DJS WHO HAPPENED TO FALL ILL, AND IT'S A LITTLE DATED, BUT I MEAN, IT'S OKAY, BUT IT'S A LITTLE DATED. THE BOARD GRACIOUSLY APPROVED 20 MILLION OF US TO UPDATE THE TO GET THE EQUIPMENT UPDATED, BECAUSE CHRISTMAS DID TAKE ALMOST ALL THE EQUIPMENT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.

SO WE HAVE A SHELL, WE HAVE A COUPLE OLDER CTS, BUT THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL AND AN MRI AND A CATH LAB.

BUT WE DO HAVE TO BUY BEDS, MONITORING EQUIPMENT, OTHERS.

AND THAT'S SCALABLE. THAT'LL BE THE FIRST INFLUX.

ALSO THE EMERGENCY ROOM OR VISITS TO HELP DECOMPRESS OUR MAIN EMERGENCY ROOM IN THE LESS ACUTE PATIENTS THAT WILL REQUIRE EQUIPMENT.

SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PHASE NOW WHILE WE GET CLOSE TO CLOSING THE DEAL, BUT THAT WE DO HAVE AN INITIAL INFLUX OF CAPITAL.

BUT IT WON'T BE FOR A MAJOR RENOVATION LIKE WE'VE DONE ON THE TOWERS.

NOT FOR SOME TIME. YOU GOT TO SEE WHAT THE NOT NOT NOT FOR SOME TIME.

BUT THEY'RE VERY NICE IN THE SENSE THAT CHRISTIE'S HAD DONE SOME UPGRADES.

AND THEY AND THE ROOMS ARE PRIVATE ROOMS. SO WE DO.

IT'S A LITTLE BETTER THAN I WOULD SAY, THE RIO TOWER, WHAT WE HAD YEARS AGO WHEN THE SKY TOWER WAS BUILT, WHICH WERE SEMI-PRIVATE AND QUAD ROOMS. SO I THINK WE HAVE, I THINK A LOT OF CLEANUP, FIX UP AND BRIGHTENING IT UP AND WE'LL MAKE IT BETTER.

BUT WE DO BUT THERE WILL TO, TO MAKE SOME MAJOR CHANGES WOULD REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CAPITAL.

WHEN DO YOU THINK WE'LL REOPEN THAT AGAIN? AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULDN'T HOLD OURSELVES TO THAT DATE YET, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THE STATE COME.

THEY HAVE TO RE LICENSE US, AND ONCE THEY'RE LICENSE US, THEN WE HAVE TO HIRE THE STAFF TO OPEN IT.

AND THEN WHEN THE STAFF ARE OPEN, THEN THE STATE HAS TO COME DOWN RIGHT BEFORE WE OPEN TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING HASN'T CHANGED.

SO IT'S DEPENDENT ON STATE, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE OUR HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB HIRING THE STAFF IN OUR IN OUR MAIN CAMPUS AND IN OUR CLINICS LIKE WHEATLEY AND VITA.

THOSE ARE FULLY STAFFED, READY TO OPEN. AND NOW WE THREW ANOTHER ANOTHER BUILDING INTO THEM.

AND HR IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET OUT AND ARE ALREADY STARTING TO DO LOOK AT THE RECRUITMENT OF NURSES AND OTHERS.

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SO WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL GET THE STAFF.

IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. DID WE OFFER ANY TRANSITION PACKAGES TO THE CRISIS EMPLOYEES? IT CLOSED IN APRIL. SO THOSE PEOPLE THAT I THINK THEY WENT TO WESTOVER HILLS AND OTHER LOCATIONS, BUT WE HOPE THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO COME BACK WHO MIGHT HAVE TAKEN OTHER JOBS IN THE LAST QUESTION.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A HUGE THING TO GET THREE HOSPITALS AND CLINICS ALL STAFFED.

I MEAN, THAT'S QUITE A HERCULEAN EFFORT. SO ARE YOU SEEING ANY BLIPS ON THAT PATHWAY? BLESSED BY OUR BOARD AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT LEADERSHIP TEAM.

I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS IN MY WHOLE CAREER. THIS IS ABNORMAL.

YOU DO NOT SEE THREE HOSPITALS OPENING UP WITHIN A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF OF EACH OTHER.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK FROM OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM, A LOT OF SUPPORT OF OUR BOARD OF MANAGERS.

BUT THESE OPPORTUNITIES ALSO DON'T COME AROUND OFTEN.

AND I THINK FROM WHAT GEORGE, MR. ADAMS AND THE PRIOR BOARD OF MANAGERS AND OUR CURRENT BOARD OF MANAGERS, THEY'VE SET A VISION TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE IN BEXAR COUNTY, AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY IN BEXAR COUNTY IN SOUTH TEXAS THAT NEEDS US. AND THAT'S WHAT OUR STAFF DO EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND WE'RE JUST SO PROUD OF OUR STAFF AND WHAT THEY DO.

AND THEY'RE JUST WHEN WHEN THE ANNOUNCEMENT GOT MADE TO STAFF, THE AMOUNT OF EMAILS AND THE AMOUNT OF PRIDE YOU COULD SEE FROM THE 13, 12,000 EMPLOYEES WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.

AND I'M JUST SO PROUD OF EVERYONE TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AND WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE THE BUDGET BASED ON THE TAX EXEMPTIONS AND RATES AND EVERYTHING REALLY QUICKLY.

FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

ED REED, YOUR LEADERSHIP TEAM FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO THANK MR. JIMMY HASLAM AND DOCTOR DAVID COHEN FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE BOARD AND YOUR LEADERSHIP THERE.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR I TALKED ABOUT THIS, THIS MORE, BUT ANNUAL TAXPAYER SAVINGS OF $74 MILLION. I'M GLAD YOUR NUMBERS MATCHED UP WITH MINE.

I HAD IT I HAD IT NORTH OF 70 MILLION. AND I CALCULATED THAT AS THE LARGEST TAX CUT IN BEXAR COUNTY HISTORY.

SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FOR TAKING THAT BIG STEP FOR BEXAR COUNTY TAXPAYERS.

I THINK IT WAS A IT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE. IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME.

AND IT'S IT'S BIG. IT'S NOTABLE. THE THE OTHER THING, OBVIOUSLY, I JUST WANT TO MENTION, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE THE TAX RATES STAYING THE SAME, BUT VALUATION IS INCREASING.

YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE ABOUT 17 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THIS YEAR.

THAT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 3%, WHICH TO ME IS INFLATION PLUS GROWTH WHICH IS REASONABLE AND KIND OF IS THE CONSERVATIVE STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGETING. SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S VERY REASONABLE AND FAIR.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I KNOW I BROUGHT UP TO, TO ALL OF YOU BEFORE, BUT FOR THE, THE COURT AND FOR, FOR EVERYBODY'S AWARENESS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AGAIN, THE FUNCTIONS OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND HOW US TIES IN WITH THAT, WHETHER THAT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, MOVING SOME OF THE COUNTY FUNCTIONS UNDERNEATH THE UMBRELLA OF OF US OR WHETHER THERE'S JUST A DEEPER PARTNERSHIP. I'D JUST LIKE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT OPTION AS WE GO FORWARD.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT I GUESS COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES STEPPED OUT, BUT HER COMMENTS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH BEDS WE'VE HAD SOME ROBUST DISCUSSIONS HERE ABOUT THE SACHE FACILITY, SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO RENOVATE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THERE.

BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE EXISTING JAIL POTENTIAL FUTURE ANNEX AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF MENTAL HEALTH BEDS, AS WELL AS SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR US TO PROVIDE THE MEDICAL STAFFING AND SPACE TO, TO PROVIDE THE CARE NECESSARY FOR, FOR INMATES AS WELL.

AND SO I HOPE IN THE COMING MONTHS WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION, DIVE DEEPER ON THAT FRONT AND REALLY LOOK AT WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY, WITH OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ADDRESSING MENTAL HEALTH BEDS IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, JUDGE. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. I'LL ALERT COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

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WE'RE READY TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS IF SHE WANTS TO RETURN TO THE COURT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. GOOD REPORT. THANK YOU. AND I DROPPED OFF.

SO EACH ONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE A NEW BOOKLET ON WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS FACILITIES, PRECINCTS.

I HOPE YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. AND IS THAT BANNON SAID TO ME A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALREADY OUTDATED, SO WE WILL UPDATE IT.

BUT THANK THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, JIMMY, FOR YOUR STRONG SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AS A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU'VE ASKED.

[45. Approval of a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Bexar County and Alamo Community Colleges District (ACCD) stating that ACCD will allow Bexar County Parks and Recreation to determine feasibility of approximately 18 acres out of its north campus location for youth sports fields.]

AND I'M GOING TO RISK GOING OUT OVER HERE. YOU'VE ASKED THE PULL OUT OF CONSENT ITEM AGENDA 45.

AGENDA 45. I'M ALERTING IT'S APPROVAL OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY AND ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, STATING THAT ACC WILL ALLOW BEXAR COUNTY PARKS AND REC TO DETERMINE FEASIBILITY.

APPROXIMATELY 18 ACRES OF NORTH CAMPUS LOCATION FOR YOUTH SPORTS.

FIELD. MR. KEN MCGLAMERY, I'M ALERTING YOU. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A CITIZEN TO BE HEARD.

IF PRISCILA CAMACHO, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND I WILL TRY TO ENFORCE THOSE THREE MINUTES.

IN LIGHT OF THE LENGTHY MEETING WE HAVE TODAY.

YOUR HONOR, I PROMISE I'M GOING TO TAKE FAR LESS TIME THAN THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE SAKAI. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS COURT, PRISCILLA CAMACHO I AM THE CHIEF LEGISLATIVE, INDUSTRY AND EXTERNAL RELATIONS OFFICER FOR THE ALAMO COLLEGES DISTRICT.

AND SUPER PROUD TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR CHANCELLOR, DOCTOR MIKE FLORES, OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES, TO REALLY AND REALLY. COMMISSIONER RUDY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE VISION ON THIS PARTNERSHIP.

WE KNOW IT'S THE FIRST OF MANY. IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THAT, WE WORK WITH EVERY ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS AND WITH THE JUDGE.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP.

AS YOU KNOW, WE OWN LOTS OF PARCELS OF LAND. THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND IS ABOUT 145 ACRES.

IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE ITS OWN COLLEGE CAMPUS, BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE AN EDUCATION AND TRAINING CENTER.

AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS THE DISCUSSIONS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PARK COUNTY PARK.

AND SO WE THINK IT GOES WELL WITH THE VISION AND MISSION OF OUR INSTITUTION, THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE COUNTY, AND WE SEE A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY, THE RESIDENTS OF BEXAR COUNTY, IN THAT PARTICULAR CORRIDOR. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE NOT ONLY SERVE BEXAR COUNTY, BUT WE ALSO SERVE SEVEN OTHER COUNTIES IN OUR SURROUNDING AREA. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP.

AND, JUDGE, I THINK I TOOK YEAH, I TOOK A MINUTE.

SO I LEARNED FROM THE BEST. YOUR HONOR. SO I'M GOING TO STOP THERE AND HAPPILY TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

LET'S GET MR. MCGLAMERY UP HERE AND THEN, COMMISSIONER, I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO OPEN UP THE COMMENTS OR.

YEAH, SOME COMMENTS. WELL, AND, KEN I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD. I KNOW IT'S GONE QUICKLY. AND PRISCILLA AND THE TEAM OVER AT ALAMO COLLEGES APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS.

SO PART OF THE THE KEY THAT WAS JUST LIKE THE HIGHLIGHT.

SO THERE'S ACTUALLY 18 ACRES THAT ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN RIGHT ON THAT PARCEL, WHICH WOULD BE UNUSABLE FOR CONSTRUCTION.

BUT THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SPORTS FIELDS FOR THE NORTHERN REGION OF OUR COUNTY.

AND SO WE HAD STARTED HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, I DON'T KNOW SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT AN MOU.

KEN AND HIS TEAM HAVE PUSHED THIS FORWARD, WENT BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE LANGUAGE RIGHT WITH THE LAWYERS AND EVERYTHING.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE COUNTY AND DEFINITELY FOR PRECINCT THREE.

AND, KEN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT FROM YOUR SIDE.

WELL KEN MCGLAMERY FOR THE FOR THE RECORD, THERE IN THIS 18 ACRES OF THE MOU IS GOING TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO OUT THERE, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET EIGHT 200 FOOT YOUTH BASEBALL FIELDS AND ABOUT FOUR YOUTH SOCCER FIELDS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY HELP OUT WITH A YOUTH SPORTS.

THERE'S THE SLOTS OF PLAY ARE LACKING FOR BOTH BASEBALL AND SOCCER.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A REALLY NEAT AREA ALSO TO THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THE YMCA TO COME OUT THERE.

SO THERE'S EVEN MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PARTNERSHIPS.

SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR FOR FOR ACC GUYS HELPING US GET THIS DONE.

AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING IT TAKEN CARE OF.

YEAH, I KNOW I, I WAS REMISS IN MISSING THE YMCA.

SO THERE'S THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A POTENTIAL TRILATERAL AGREEMENT WITH ALAMO COLLEGE'S YMCA IN BEXAR COUNTY.

IF THEY END UP PROVIDING A FACILITY THERE NEXT TO THE COLLEGE, THAT THEY COULD ALSO HELP MANAGE THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND TAKE SOME OF THE BURDEN OFF BEXAR COUNTY, WHICH WOULD BE BE GREAT AS WELL.

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SO LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO EXPLORE THIS.

APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. AND KEN, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD AND GETTING IT DONE. THANK YOU.

JUDGE, ARE WE GOING TO GO AHEAD, TAKE THIS FOR A MOTION.

ASK FOR A MOTION. I MOVE APPROVAL SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. MR. ROBERSON.

LET'S TAKE A VOTE. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION? MOTIONS CARRIED. GOOD JOB. LET'S CREATE A NEW PARK UP ON THE NORTH SIDE.

RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS TO LARRY ROBERTSON AND THE CIVIL DAR FOR HELPING PUSH THIS THROUGH.

SO WE APPRECIATE THE LAWYER. YEAH. LOTS OF BACK AND FORTH.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, DID YOU WANT TO CORRECT THE RECORD ON THE VOTE ON THE ISSUE WITH US?

[4. TIME CERTAIN ITEM(S) (Part 2 of 3)]

WAS THE TIME CERTAIN? YES, JUDGE. I STEPPED OUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN YOU AND I MISSED THE VOTE.

SO PLEASE LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT I VOTED. YES.

THANK YOU. IS THAT ALL WE NEED TO DO? KATE, WILL YOU REFLECT THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES APPROVED THAT MOTION? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. GOT IT. SO CORRECTED.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO NOW GO TO A TIME CERTAIN.

SO I'M ALERTING ALL THOSE. IT IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE THAT IS HAS, AS WE CAN SEE, A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ FOR THE RECORD WHAT WE ARE TAKING UP AT THIS TIME.

NOTICE OF PUBLIC CONSIDERATION. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS INVITED PUBLIC INPUT FROM CITIZENS REGARDING A PROPOSED ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, WHICH, IF ADOPTED, WOULD ORDER AN ELECTION TO BE HELD IN BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025. ON THE QUESTION OF TWO PROPOSED VENUE PROJECTS, WHICH INCLUDE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FREEMAN COLISEUM, FROST BANK CENTER AND SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO FACILITIES AND DEVELOPMENT OF NEW MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 334 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AT THIS TIME, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES AND MAY DESIGNATE WHICH ITEM THE SPEAKER WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ITEMS. THE SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING. ONE. IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FREEMAN COLISEUM, FROST BANK CENTER, AND SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND ROAD FACILITIES OR TWO.

DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS OR.

THREE. THE VENUE PROJECTS AS A WHOLE. THE RULES ARE THE SPEAKERS MAY YIELD THEIR THREE MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER WITH PERMISSION BY THE COUNTY JUDGE AS PRESIDING OFFICER. SO IF YOU WISH TO YIELD YOUR TIME, YOU NEED TO LET ME KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.

PLEASE. IN LIGHT OF THE AMOUNT OF SPEAKERS, I WILL ASK THAT THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT BE ENFORCED AT THIS TIME. SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND AT THIS TIME, OH, ALSO TWO COURT, I WANT TO ALERT YOU THAT AFTER PUBLIC DISCUSSION, I WILL CLOSE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND ASK THAT WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND I'LL READ INTO THE RECORD WHY, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THESE OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

AND THEN AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE WILL COME BACK OUT AND TAKE ACTION IF APPROPRIATE.

AND THEN PERHAPS DEPENDING ON TIME, I AM ASSUMING WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AND THEY WILL COME.

WELL, COMMISSIONER, I KNOW, BUT AND WE'LL OBVIOUSLY COME BACK TO FINISH THE REST OF THE MEETING.

AND SO I HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. FOR THOSE THAT HAVE YET TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK, I GET I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE NOT GONE TO THAT CONSTABLE'S.

I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT YOU. I'M GOING TO TRY TO FIT YOU IN AND ACCOMMODATE YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL ARE BUSY AND NEED TO GET BACK OUT AND DO YOUR JOB AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO FOR EVERYBODY TODAY.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL CALL UP PETER HOLT.

AND BOBBY PETTUS, FOR YOUR RECORD, BOBBY PEREZ AND PHIL CULLEN ARE WE'RE YIELDING OUR TIME TO PETER HOLT.

ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M CALLING UP PETER HOLT.

BOBBY PETTIS. PHIL CULLEN, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE YOU WISH TO CALL UP.

SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU NINE MINUTES, MR.. PETER.

JOHN HOLT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME BOBBY EVER YIELDED HIS TIME, SO MIGHT NEED A SPECIAL RECORD FOR THAT. WELL, FIRST, THANK YOU FOR TO THE COUNTY, TO

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THE RODEO AND TO THE CAB FOR THE PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION.

WE'VE HAD A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT FRUITFUL PARTNERSHIP.

OUR FORMULA AND STRUCTURE FOR SAID PARTNERSHIP HAS WORKED, AND WE BELIEVE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK FOR MUTUAL BENEFIT AND POSITIVE IMPACT. WE'RE INCREDIBLY EXCITED ABOUT OUR NEXT STEP TOGETHER.

WE THINK THAT THIS NEW REAUTHORIZATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE VENUE TAX THAT ALLOWS FOR DEDICATED FUNDS PAID, PAID BY VISITORS AND TOURISTS WILL HELP THE FROST BANK CENTER, THE RODEO AND THE STOCK SHOW.

THE EAST SIDE WILL BENEFIT AND WILL ALLOW FOR A WORLD CLASS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT ARENA IN OUR URBAN CORE THAT WILL TRANSFORM OUR CITY AND OUR COUNTY FOR MAXIMUM BENEFIT. THE SPURS HAVE COMMITTED $500 MILLION PLUS TO THE ARENA FOR CONTEXT. 14 OF THE 30 NBA TEAMS, THE 14 SMALLEST MARKET TEAMS ALL HAVE PUBLICLY FUNDED ARENAS.

THE AVERAGE IS 70% PUBLIC FUNDS OF THOSE 14 SMALLEST ARENAS.

THE MOST RECENT OKLAHOMA CITY IS 95% FUNDED BY PUBLIC FUNDS UNDER OUR PROPOSED STRUCTURE, THE SPURS WILL COMMIT CLOSE TO HALF OF THE FUNDS.

WE ARE THE 27TH SMALLEST MARKET IN THE NBA. THIS COMMITMENT SHOWS OUR BELIEF IN THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND HAVING A FRUITFUL PARTNERSHIP THAT BENEFITS ALL.

TODAY, ON BEHALF OF THE SPURS, I ASK YOU TO FORMALLY PASS A MOTION TO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF BEXAR COUNTY TO LEARN ABOUT THIS PROJECT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY VOTE YES ON A WORLD CLASS ARENA IN DOWNTOWN AND SUPPORT THE FROST BANK CENTER AND ALLOW FOR THAT VENUE TO CONTINUE TO THRIVE FOR DECADES TO COME. THIS IS AN EXCITING MOMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR VISION.

WE ASK YOU TODAY TO BE BOLD AND TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, AND OUR COMMITMENT IS THAT WE WILL PUSH FOR THE MAXIMUM POSITIVE IMPACT FOR ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, JEFF WEBSTER.

GOOD AFTERNOON. JUDGE. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

IT'S A PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY. GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU. I'VE KNOWN SO MANY OF YOU FOR SO LONG. LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, MAKING EASY DECISIONS WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT IS JUST SIMPLE, COMPLICATED DECISIONS AND CHOICES LIKE YOU'RE MAKING TODAY THAT ACTUALLY, I'VE SAID BEFORE, ARE GOING TO BE ON YOUR TERM.

THERE GENERATIONAL DECISIONS. THOSE ARE HARDER TO MAKE.

WE ALL MAKE MIKE MAKING DECISIONS THAT BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR COMMUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THIS.

BUT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO FUND AND I AM SO EXCITED WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT CODY DAVENPORT AND THE RODEO FOLKS.

OUR FOLKS AT THE THE COLISEUM AND SUPPORT DOWNTOWN.

THE GREATER SAN ANTONIO CHAMBER BELIEVES THAT THEY ARE ALL CONNECTED.

IT IS NOT ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. IT IS A ROADMAP BETWEEN ALL OF THEM THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, FROM THE ALAMO TO THE RIVERWALK TO HEMISFAIR PARK, THE NEW ARENA, TO OVER TO THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE WILL GROW AND DO THINGS OVER THERE THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY TO THE EAST SIDE, WHERE THE FOLKS, CODY AND THE TEAM ARE TRYING TO GROW THAT WESTERN HERITAGE.

AND OUR FOLKS AT JOE AND HARRY HAVE GOT PLANS AND WORKING TOGETHER HOW TO MAKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CREATE OPPORTUNITY.

SO MANY TIMES PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WHAT THIS MEANS IS THERE WILL BE JOBS CREATED WITH CONSTRUCTION, THERE WILL BE JOBS CREATED WITH ENTREPRENEURS WHO, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WILL STEP OUT AND TAKE RISK AND THEN CREATE GENERATIONAL FAMILY WEALTH AND OPPORTUNITY.

AND IT STARTS RIGHT HERE TODAY WITH THE DECISIONS YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT TO MAKE.

SO JUDGE, I THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A DELIBERATIVE PROCESS.

I KNOW THERE'S STILL MORE TO COME. I DO BELIEVE THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY AND DISCLOSURE.

I BELIEVE WE GOT TO INCLUDE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES EVERY BIT AS POSSIBLE, FROM OUR SMALL BUSINESSES TO OUR HOMEGROWN FAMILY BUSINESSES.

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THEY HAVE TO BE A PART OF THIS. FROM THE FROST BANK CENTER TO THE FREEMAN COLISEUM TO THE ARENA.

WE'VE GOT TO DO BUSINESS IN SAN ANTONIO AND WE GOT TO DO BUSINESS TOGETHER.

JUDGE, I THANK YOU FOR LEADING THE WAY ON THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE TODAY. LET'S CONTINUE TO MAKE SAN ANTONIO SOMEPLACE EXCEPTIONAL.

THAT HAS GOT THE REPUTATION TO BE. WITH THAT, I SAY THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I NEED CLARIFICATION FOR THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO.

I HAVE CODY DAVENPORT, AUDREY SMITH, AND DERRICK HOWARD.

DO YOU ALL WISH TO SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY? OR. CODY? YES, SIR. DO YOU WANT TO? I'VE GOT YOU FOR THREE.

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN BEHALF? ALL THREE? YOU HAVE OTHER.

I'LL GIVE YOU. I'LL GO SOLO. WHAT'S THAT? I'LL GO SOLO.

OKAY. SO ALL THOSE HERE FOR THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. CODY DAVENPORT, I'M GIVING YOU NINE MINUTES.

YOU'VE SIGNED FOR THREE PEOPLE. CHURCH COMMISSIONER, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US IN HERE TODAY. LET'S START BY ECHOING.

WELL, MR. HOLT SAID SPURS HAVE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER OF OURS DOWN THERE.

WE'RE IN A BEAUTIFUL SITUATION, IN OUR PERSPECTIVE, IN THE SENSE THAT WE BOTH HAVE OUTGROWN EACH OTHER.

WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH OF US. IN SAN ANTONIO, STOCK SHOW AND RODEO.

AND THE SPURS HAVE TREMENDOUS FOLLOWINGS ON BOTH SIDES.

AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY AND FOR ALL OF US.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RODEO NOW. WE'VE BEEN THERE WITH Y'ALL SINCE 1949.

WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE JOE AND HARRY FIRST BROKE GROUND, AND WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE, AND ALL WE'VE EVER DONE IS CONTINUED TO GROW INSIDE OF OUR PROCESS AND OUR PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER.

A FEW HIGHLIGHTS TO REMIND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.

THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP, $279 MILLION HAVE GONE BACK TO THE YOUTH OF TEXAS, THROUGH US, THROUGH OUR OPERATIONS IN YOUR GROUNDS, $279 MILLION. BREAK IT DOWN IN AN ANNUAL 12.1 MILLION.

JUST LAST YEAR ALONE, 20,000 STUDENTS HAD THEIR EDUCATION.

FURTHER, BECAUSE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE $330 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT STRICTLY IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY OVER A 22 DAY PRODUCTION, $330 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT DOWN THERE ON THOSE GROUNDS.

WE'RE VERY LUCKY THROUGH THE GROWTH. WE'VE HAD LOTS OF OUTREACH TO US.

PEOPLE WANTING TO COME GET ENGAGED IN THE GROUNDS THROUGH THE WESTERN INDUSTRY. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT RODEO. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT RINSE AND REPEAT THE SAME THING YOU SEE EVERY FEBRUARY. I'M TALKING ABOUT A MASSIVE INDUSTRY THAT'S OUT THERE.

WE'RE CONTACTED ON A REGULAR BASIS TO COME DOWN THERE AND BE A PART OF.

WE'RE OFFERING YEAR ROUND OPERATIONS. WE'RE OFFERING TO EXPAND, CONTINUE THE GROWTH OF THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO.

WE'RE OFFERING TO TAKE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL FOR BOTH SIDES AND EXPAND UPON IT.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, I'M COMMITTING TO YOU, THE EAST SIDE EMBRACING.

WE HAVE LOTS OF PLANS OF HOW TO TAKE OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND EMBRACE THEM AND MAKE THEM PART OF OUR SHOW, CONTINUE OUR OUTREACH ACROSS THE STATE, CONTINUE OUR OUTREACH ACROSS THE NATION, BUT TAKE CARE OF OUR HOME FRONT AS WELL.

THESE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL ALLOW THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK STOCKHOLM RODEO, WHICH I'M PROUD TO SAY HAS WON NUMEROUS REWARDS OUT THERE TO CONTINUE TO BE IN THE COMPETITIVE POSITION ACROSS THE NATION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.

WITH THESE FACILITIES, WE CAN CONTINUE DOMINATING THAT INDUSTRY AND CONTINUE BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE MONEY COMING INTO BEXAR COUNTY ON THOSE GROUNDS THERE.

ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO DO AN EXPANSION UPON WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED FOR YEARS, SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING, TO ALLOW US TO EXPAND AND ALLOW US TO GROW DOWN THERE.

OUR COMMITMENT IS TO GROW THOSE THINGS YEAR ROUND TO YOU GUYS.

I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN US THUS FAR AND EVERYTHING. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EFFORT, A LOT OF DIALOG, A LOT OF TALK, AND THIS PROCESS. I KNOW IT'S BEEN HARD ON YOU ALL, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE GONE INSIDE OF THERE.

PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, ON BEHALF OF SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO.

WE APPRECIATE BEING PARTNERS WITH YOU THROUGH ALL THOSE YEARS AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. LET ME HAVE MIKE PHILLIPS.

AND RENA ODIN. YOU'RE NEXT AFTER THAT.

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MIKE, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK AS WE'RE REPRESENTING COPPS METRO? WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. OKAY. SO DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK AS ONE, MIKE OR BOTH OF YOU? BOTH. BOTH. OKAY. MIKE. RENEE. ODIN, TOO. THANK YOU.

COPS. METRO IS HERE TO REITERATE OUR STANCE. WE DO NOT SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC MONEY FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OR PRIVATE BENEFIT.

TODAY WE STAND IN OPPOSITION TO A VENUE TAX FOR YET ANOTHER ARENA.

WHY DO WE NEED TO SPEND 300 MILLION FOR ANOTHER ARENA TO COMPETE WITH THE FROST CENTER? WE ARE THE THIRD POOREST CITY IN THE COUNTRY.

WE NEED FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE. WE NEED INVESTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHERE IS THE PUBLIC PROCESS? YOU ASSURED US OF JUDGE SAKAI.

THERE IS NO ACTUAL COST BENEFIT FOR THIS PROJECT.

NO ECONOMIC ANALYSIS. NO REAL ECONOMIC ANALYSIS.

THIS IS A BLANK CHECK TO BILLIONAIRES WITH OUR TAX MONEY.

THERE SHOULD BE NO RUSH. NO RUSH. THE CITY LOOKS VERY LIKELY TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR FOR THEIR VOTE. THE COUNTY SHOULD DO THE SAME. TAXPAYERS DESERVE A BETTER DEAL.

SO GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS RENEE ODEN.

MACEDONIA. MACEDONIA BAPTIST CHURCH. I'M A METRO LEADER.

IT IS UNCONSCIONABLE THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE THIS MONEY FOR AN ARENA.

WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE DYING FROM INFRASTRUCTURE, OR LACK THEREOF.

A REAL DIVESTMENT FROM OUR COMMUNITIES. A GENTLEMAN DIED IN HIS VEHICLE ON PENN ROAD FROM FLOODS.

WE HAD 13 PEOPLE THAT DIED EARLY JUNE FROM FLOODS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

DON'T TELL US THIS MONEY IS ONLY FOR ARENAS. WHERE IS YOUR IMAGINATION? FOR OUR FAMILIES. IN EARLY 2000, WE VOTED ON THE VENUE TAX WHERE THERE WAS COMMUNITY BENEFIT FOR ALL DISTRICTS, FOR ALL OF US.

THIS DEAL HAS NO COMMUNITY BENEFIT. PARKS. ARTS ONLY GREET.

ONLY GREET. WHEN IS ENOUGH? ENOUGH IN 20 YEARS.

ANOTHER ARENA CAUSING MORE HURT AND SUFFERING FOR OUR PEOPLE.

FOR OUR FAMILIES. WE'RE SIGNING UP VOTERS. AND WE WON'T STOP BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AGENDA AND A BETTER WAY TO SPEND THIS MONEY.

WE WILL NOT STOP. TODAY YOU HAVE A CHOICE. AND IT'S SIMPLE.

GREED OR THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SUSAN STRONG. GOOD. GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR, AND GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. I'M HERE REPRESENTING NO PROJECT MARVEL, WHICH IS A COALITION OF COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT IS ASKING YOU TO DELAY THE VOTE UNTIL DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS DEAL CAN BE DONE.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT METRO JUST SAID.

THERE HAS BEEN NO DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS DEAL.

THERE'S BEEN NO DUE DILIGENCE ON PROJECT MARVEL ITSELF, NO MARKET STUDY, NO RISK ANALYSIS.

THERE'S BEEN NO DUE DILIGENCE DONE ON THE FROST CENTER.

THERE'S BEEN NO STUDY THAT SHOWS WHETHER SAN ANTONIO CAN SUPPORT TWO ARENAS.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE COLISEUM, THERE'S BEEN NO STUDY THAT SAYS WE CAN SUPPORT THE COLISEUM AGAINST AN ARENA, AGAINST A NEW MUSIC VENUE, AT THE WOODS COURTHOUSE, AGAINST A BASEBALL STADIUM THAT'S DESIGNED TO ALSO HOST CONCERTS AGAINST THE TOYOTA CENTER, WHICH THE COUNTY ALREADY HAD TO BAIL OUT, AND WHICH IS ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE FOR CONCERTS OF THE SAME SIZE.

THERE HAS ALSO BEEN NO CONSIDERATION OF ALTERNATIVE USES FOR THE FUNDING.

THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT BUDGET DEFICITS. THE CITY ALREADY HAS BUDGET DEFICITS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL CUTS ARE GOING TO BE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THE VENUE TAX CAN BE USED FOR CLEARLY, IS AQUIFER PROTECTION.

THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING AS A COUNTY AND CITY HAS GONE DOWN FOR THAT.

THE CITY IS LOOKING AT BUDGET DEFICITS. IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER THEY COULD CONTINUE TO FUND THAT.

WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT. IT COULD FUND WEST SIDE CREEKS.

IT COULD HAVE FUNDED THESE BALL FIELDS THAT YOU JUST VOTED TO FUND THROUGH SOME OTHER METHOD.

THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS OUT THERE THAT WE COULD DO. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO RUSH TO DO THIS IN NOVEMBER.

STATE LAW PROVIDES THAT THE SPURS LEASE IS ENFORCEABLE BY SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE.

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IT'S FUNDED BY THE VENUE TAX. THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS SAID IT IS NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO BE ABLE TO WAIVE PERFORMANCE, SO IT'S ENFORCEABLE BY SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE. THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES CLAUSE IS ARGUABLY UNENFORCEABLE, AND THAT LEAVES US PLENTY OF TIME TO DO DUE DILIGENCE AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT TYING UP THESE FUNDS FOR ANOTHER 20 OR 30 YEARS WITHOUT DOING OUR HOMEWORK ON WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE WITH THIS MONEY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STEVE VICE CHAIR.

HI. MY NAME IS STEVE VERSTEEG. I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

I'D JUST GOT OUT OF WORK TO TRY TO GET OVER HERE AND SAY SOMETHING.

SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE. THERE YOU GO. YEAH.

SORRY. THEY THEY DON'T MAKE THEM GO HIGH ENOUGH, I GUESS.

FIRST THE COLISEUM COMPLEX VENUE PROJECT. I NEED TO READ BECAUSE I DON'T SPEAK THAT WELL.

THE PROJECT IS EVENT FOCUSED AS IT MUST BE FOR VISITORS, ALTHOUGH THE IDEAS AND PLANNING MAY BE BETTER THAN 20 YEARS AGO, FUNDS FOR VISITOR VENUES MAY STILL BE FATED TO FALL SHORT ON LOCAL BENEFITS.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY PUTTING FORWARD THAT THIS, QUOTE, A FOUNDATIONAL ECONOMIC GENERATOR THAT WILL CATALYZE FUTURE GROWTH ON THE EAST SIDE FROM PAST EXPERIENCE. WE KNOW THAT THE VENUE IS ITSELF DOES NOT DO THAT.

OTHER INVESTMENT IN BUSINESS AND PEOPLE IS NEEDED.

MOST CONCERNING FOR THIS BALLOT MEASURE, WHICH IS BETTER THAN WHICH IS THE BETTER OF THESE TWO PROPOSALS, IS THAT IT IS ON THE BALLOT WITH A SPURS ARENA THAT'S FACING OPPOSITION.

PEOPLE OPPOSED TO THE SPURS ARENA MAY VOTE AGAINST THIS AS WELL.

PEOPLE WILL EASILY BE CONFUSED BECAUSE THESE PROPOSALS USE THE EXACT SAME FUNDING STATEMENT ON THE BALLOT, AND THEY MAY CHOOSE ONE OR THE OTHER, WHICH MAY MEAN THEY CHOOSE THE SPURS OVER THE COLISEUM.

THE COLISEUM COMPLEX PROJECT SHOULD BE THE ONLY PROPOSAL ON THIS FALL BALLOT.

SECOND, THE SPURS ARENA PROJECT. THE SPURS ARE A FOREIGN ORGANIZATION, BUT THEY ARE A PRIVATE BUSINESS.

JUST TAKING THEIR WORD FOR IT ABOUT HOW MUCH PUBLIC FUNDING THEY NEED IS FINANCIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE.

THEY CLEARLY STALLED AND CAME OUT WITH THE LOWEST OFFER THEY THOUGHT WOULD BE ACCEPTED. PRIVATE BUSINESSES SHOULD FUND THEIR BUSINESSES WITH PRIVATE FUNDS. THE SPURS VALUE HAS GROWN 20 FOLD SINCE 2000, FROM 189 MILLION TO 3.85 BILLION.

THESE OWNERS CAN AFFORD TO GIVE SOME OF THAT BACK.

THE SPURS COULD PUT IN $175 MILLION EASILY. OVER ON THE EAST SIDE.

THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THEY'D MATCH THEIR 50,000 FOR THE DOWNTOWN ARENA WITH 15,000 MORE DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN.

WHY AREN'T THEY DOING THAT OVER HERE? THE CITY MAY NOT GET THEIR BONDS ON THE BALLOT THIS FALL.

PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP IN FORCE AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN OPPOSITION.

THE CITY'S LEADING THIS ARENA SHOW. LET THEM GET THE PROJECT.

THEY TIED THAT TO APPROVED FIRST. NO PROJECT MARVEL DOESN'T MEAN NO SPURS ARENA.

IT MEANS DON'T DO IT THE WAY THE CITY WANTS TO DO IT WITH PUBLIC FUNDS.

THE SPURS VALUE WILL BE 20 TIMES AGAIN WHAT IT IS NOW WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD THE EVEN NEXT ARENA 25 YEARS FROM NOW, THEY CAN AFFORD TO INVEST THEIR OWN MONEY FOR THAT HUGE GAIN.

LET'S KEEP THE SECOND PROPOSAL TO PAY FOR THE SPURS ARENA OFF THIS BALLOT.

IT AVOIDS VOTER CONFUSION AND ACTUALLY LETS VOTERS DECIDE ON THE FIRST PROPOSAL ON ITS OWN MERITS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ANTONIA TAYLOR.

HELLO. MY NAME IS TONY AND I'M A RESIDENT OF PRECINCT THREE AND A CONSTITUENT OF GRANT MOODY.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT TO VOTE NO ON USING OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FOR THIS YEAR'S ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT DOWNTOWN TENT PROJECT.

MARVEL'S INCEPTION. THERE HAS BEEN A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY FROM COUNTY AND CITY LEADERS, AS OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN LOCKED OUT OF IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS.

THIS SO-CALLED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS HAVE NOT PROVIDED AN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR WORKING CLASS NEIGHBORS TO COMMENT ON THE VENUE'S DEVELOPMENT, BUT RATHER YOU ALL HAVE CHOSEN TO PRIORITIZE THEIR BUSINESS COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A FIRST HAND ROLE IN GENTRIFICATION IN OUR CITY.

OVER 25 YEARS AGO, WHEN THE FROST BANK CENTER WAS BUILT, THE EAST SIDE WAS PROMISED A LOT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS A NEW INFLATION COMMUNITY. BUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, PROMISES WERE NOT KEPT.

RESEARCH HAS SHOWN AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT STADIUMS DO NOT PROVIDE ANY SORT OF ECONOMIC BOOST FOR OUR COMMUNITIES THAT SURROUND THEM,

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BUT RATHER THEY CONTRIBUTE TO GENTRIFICATION AND PROVIDE LOW WAGE JOBS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.

ADDITIONALLY, I QUESTIONED CITY LEADERS ON HOW WE PLAN TO BUILD ARENAS, FANTASYLAND BRIDGES, CONVENTION CENTERS IF WE LITERALLY CANNOT GET AROUND OUR CITY RIGHT NOW.

I AM TIRED OF HAVING OUR COMMUNITY SOLD OUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN IN THE NAME OF TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I AM TIRED OF HAVING TO BEND OVER BACKWARDS AND SPEND PUBLIC MONIES ON AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BENEFIT THE PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT WILL LEAD WHO? THAT WHO WILL EAT OFF OF SAN ANTONIO UNTIL THERE'S NOTHING LEFT.

WE DESERVE TO HAVE OUR PUBLIC FUNDS SPENT ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE NEED A WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR DOWNTOWN WORKERS WHO WITHOUT THEM, OUR CITIES WOULD SIMPLY NOT EXIST TODAY.

WE DESERVE TO HAVE RELIABLE INFRASTRUCTURE SO OUR FAMILIES ARE SAFE, WE CAN COMMUTE, AND WE DO NOT NEED TO DIE IN FLOODS.

AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THE ARENA IS A PROPER WAY TO PRIORITIZE THESE THINGS.

AGAIN, AS A RESIDENT OF BEXAR COUNTY AND SAN ANTONIO, I ASKED THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO NOT USE PUBLIC FUNDS TO BUILD AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. AS PUBLIC SERVANTS, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HALT GENTRIFICATION ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF SAN ANTONIO AND SPEND OUR MONEY ON PROJECTS THAT WILL TANGIBLY BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITIES. JACKIE ALI.

GOOD MORNING JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JACQUELINE ALI, AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED HOMEOWNERS IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE. WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COMPRISING THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF WILLOW WOOD, MEADOWVIEW NORTH, AND MEADOWVIEW PARK, AND SURROUNDING APARTMENTS, WHICH LIE BETWEEN THE BOUNDARIES OF PROSPECT CENTER DRIVE AND SALADO CREEK.

WE COME BEFORE YOU ON BEHALF OF OUR HRA IN SUPPORT OF THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW IN RODEO AND ITS MISSION TO EXPAND ITS OPERATIONS AND PROGRAMS. ON AND NEAR THE COLISEUM. THEY HAVE EXHIBITED A COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY OUR YOUTH IN MANY WAYS, FROM ATTENDING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, OFFERING USE OF ITS FACILITIES FOR NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS, AND HOSTING EVENTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, SUCH AS THEIR ACT EDUCATION DAYS THAT EXPOSE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND ADULTS TO LEARNING ABOUT WILDLIFE, HORSEBACK RIDING, ROPING, AND INTERACTING WITH AND FEEDING LIVESTOCK ANIMALS.

MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE NOT HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPERIENCE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO TRAIN, CARE FOR, AND FEED FARM ANIMALS. BUT THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES, PROVIDING AGRICULTURAL EDUCATION AND TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE YOUNGER RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THEIR BEING ABLE TO IMPROVE AND EXPAND THE COLOSSEUM AND THE SURROUNDING AREA TO PROVIDE MORE OF THESE EXPERIENCES, UPGRADE THEIR FACILITIES AND HOST YEAR LONG EVENTS THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BRING MORE VISITORS AND PARTICIPANTS TO THE EAST SIDE VENUE.

THIS WILL NOT ONLY BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT HOPEFULLY THE SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JESSE CASAREZ.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER COREY. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS ON THE VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC OF THE VENUE PROPOSAL DOWNTOWN FOR THE SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. I AM JESSICA, AS I'VE BEEN I LIVE IN D1.

I'M A BORN AND RAISED SAN ANTONIO, AND I CAN SEE THE HISTORY OF THE 1968 WORLD'S FAIR DID TO SAN ANTONIO AND WHAT THIS WILL BRING TO SAN ANTONIO.

WITH THAT, I FOUNDED THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO REALLY IMMERSE MYSELF IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS HOME. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO THRIVE, BOTH FOR LOCALS AND VISITORS ALIKE.

WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN WHAT THE PEARL HAS COME TO.

WE SEE WHAT IT WAS BEFORE AND HOW IT REALLY MADE A COMMUNITY THRIVE.

AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO SEE WHAT THE RODEO IS DOING AND SUPPORT AND ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING.

AND WITH THE LAND BRIDGE AND WITH THE SPORTS AND THE DISTRICT, WE'VE SEEN WHAT HEMISFAIR HAS DONE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE JUST SEE THE SMALL LITTLE POCKET OF WHAT THE FOLKS HAVE WITH THE HEMISPHERE COMMISSION AND ALL OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS THEY ARE DOING TO OUR CITY AND HOW WE CAN WE REALLY CAN MAKE THAT A HUGE THING FOR SAN ANTONIO.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS OUR ECONOMIC IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL FOUR BROUGHT IN OVER $400 MILLION TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

AND IF WE ARE NOT STAYING UPDATED WITH OUR FACILITIES, IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS TO CALL HOME, WE ARE GOING TO GET SURPASSED. AUSTIN IS CURRENTLY HAVING THEIR CONVENTION CENTER RENOVATED.

SO IS HOUSTON, AND WE NEED TO BE KEEPING UP WITH THOSE TIMES.

SAN ANTONIO IS PROJECTED TO BECOME THE SIXTH LARGEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, SURPASSING PHILADELPHIA, AND THAT WILL BE HAPPENING VERY SOON. WE NEED TO KEEP UP AS A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL THAT WORKS AND LIVES DOWNTOWN,

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THAT BREATHES SAN ANTONIO. THIS IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY FOR US TO KEEP UP WITH OUR YOUNG TALENT AND OUR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND I DO BELIEVE WITH OUR LEADERSHIP, WE WILL FIND A SOLUTION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS AND REALLY ROOM FOR CREATIVE INNOVATIONS.

AND SO, LIKE HEMISFAIR DID, AND AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE DECADES BEFORE US, THE LEADERS BEFORE US, AND WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY WALK AND BREATHE TODAY BECAUSE OF THEIR DECISION MAKING.

WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL FOLLOW IN THEIR LEADERSHIP AND FOOTSTEPS AS WELL, AND LET THIS BE YOUR LEGACY FOR SAN ANTONIO FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

SO I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. AND I ASK YOU AS MY FINAL MESSAGE, PLEASE TAKE THIS BOLD STEP.

BE THOUGHTFUL, AND THESE ACTIONS WILL DEFINITELY LEAD FOR US FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. KARINA CALDERON.

HELLO, MY NAME IS CAROLINA CALDERON AND I'M PROUD RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO, LIVING IN DISTRICT TWO.

I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY ENTHUSIASM, SUPPORT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECTS AS A WHOLE.

AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES AND WORKS IN THE HEART OF THE CITY, I SEE FIRSTHAND THE POTENTIAL THIS PROJECT HAS TO ENERGIZE OUR COMMUNITY, NOT JUST ECONOMICALLY, BUT SOCIALLY AND CULTURALLY.

THIS KIND OF GROWTH IS EXACTLY WHAT SAN ANTONIO NEEDS TO CONTINUE THRIVING AS A VIBRANT, FORWARD MOVING CITY.

I'M EXCITED FOR WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR FUTURE, FROM JOB CREATION TO INCREASED TOURISM, TO MORE REASONS FOR RESIDENTS LIKE ME TO STAY INVESTED IN LONG TERM PLACE WE CALL HOME. IT MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE SAN ANTONIO OF SAN ANTONIO, AND EVEN MORE MOTIVATED TO CONTRIBUTE TO ITS CONTINUING SUCCESS.

THANK YOU. COURT COMMISSIONERS, COURT AND COURT JUDGE FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR LEADERSHIP.

APPRECIATE IT. NORA. SOPHIA.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'M SO GLAD CAROLINE IS ALMOST THE SAME HEIGHT AS ME FOR THE MICROPHONE.

I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A NATIVE SAN ANTONIO. THAT ALMOST WASN'T.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS MY PARENTS WERE BOTH BORN IN CORPUS CHRISTI IN THE 1930S.

THE ONLY REASON WE ENDED UP HERE IS BECAUSE MY FATHER TRAINED AT LACKLAND FOR THE AIR FORCE AND FELL IN LOVE WITH THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CITY, AND WHEN HE WENT HOME TO TELL MY MOTHER AFTER THE YEAR FORCE THAT WE WERE MOVING TO SAN ANTONIO, HE SAID, IT'S BECAUSE SAN ANTONIO IS GOING TO EVOLVE.

WHILE CORPUS WILL NOT. I KIND OF THINK THAT'S TRUE TODAY.

EVEN THOUGH ALL MY RELATIVES ARE STILL IN CORPUS.

BUT THE THING IS, FOR ME, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CITY TOO.

AS A LITTLE GIRL, MY PARENTS, STILL AT 91 AND 92, COME DOWN EVERY SUNDAY TO STROLL THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

THEY LOVE THE ENERGY. THEY LOVE THE VIBRANCE.

MY FATHER WAS TICKLED IN 1968 WITH THE WORLD'S FAIR BECAUSE HE SAID SAN ANTONIO WOULD EVOLVE.

I MOVED AWAY FOR A SHORT TIME. I HAD TO FIND MY HUSBAND IN ANOTHER STATE.

MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER AGENDA. BUT WHEN I CAME BACK, I CAME BACK TO DOWNTOWN, AND I CAME BACK TO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE I SAW SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I SAW POTENTIAL, AND I SAW A LOT OF THINGS CHANGING AND MOVING.

AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT FOR THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, WE'RE NOT ASKING OUR VISITORS TO PAY FOR US TO HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE CREATED TO ATTRACT MORE VISITORS AND MORE BUSINESS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. BETTY BOUCHET. BETTY NEEDS SOME HELP.

THANK YOU.

JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M BETTY BOUCHER, THE FIRST VICE PRESIDENT OF THE SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY.

THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS BEEN INVESTING IN PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC HOMES AND BUILDINGS ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO FOR DECADES. ANNUALLY, THE SOCIETY HAS GIVEN UP TO $100,000 PER YEAR IN BUILDING GRANTS TO PRIVATE OR PUBLIC OWNERS WHO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN PRESERVING HISTORIC ELEMENTS OF THEIR BUILDINGS.

THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF THESE GRANTS ARE TO ALLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ENJOY AND LEARN ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY'S CULTURAL HERITAGE, AS TOLD THROUGH THE HISTORIC FACADES OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

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IF COMMISSIONERS COURT DECIDES TO CALL A BOND ISSUE TO ENGAGE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO, WE ENCOURAGE STRONG CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO INCORPORATING PRESERVATION OF CULTURAL HERITAGE EVIDENT IN THE BUILDINGS INTO ANY PLANS IMPLEMENTED WITH BOND FUNDS. THERE ARE MANY IMPORTANT HISTORIC STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.

THIS INVENTORY OF SIGNIFICANT SITES PROVIDE ONE OF THE GUIDING SHOULD PROVIDE ONE OF THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS FOR DECISIONS REGARDING NEW DEVELOPMENT. THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS IDENTIFIED THE BAPTIST SETTLEMENT AS A HIGHLY VALUED BUT UNTOLD STORY IN BEXAR COUNTY. THEY HAVE CALLED FOR FURTHER RESEARCH AND INTERPRETATION OF THIS AREA.

THIS IS A LARGE URBAN AREA WHERE FORMERLY ENSLAVED PERSONS ESTABLISHED HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS, BUSINESSES, AND MULTIPLE CHURCHES. AFTER JUNETEENTH, MANY FREEDMEN'S TOWNS APPEARED THROUGHOUT TEXAS.

IN SAN ANTONIO. IT WAS THE BAPTIST SETTLEMENT WHERE A NEW COMMUNITY ESTABLISHED ITS CULTURAL HERITAGE AND DEVELOPED A THRIVING ECONOMY. THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY INTENDS TO CONTINUE INVESTING IN THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON THE EAST SIDE. WE WOULD BE PLEASED TO WORK IN CLOSE COORDINATION WITH BEXAR COUNTY FOR EAST SIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

IF THE COUNTY DECIDES TO PROCEED IN THAT DIRECTION, I HAVE A COPY OF THIS LETTER FROM OUR PRESIDENT, LUIS VETTER, FOR EACH OF YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANDREW GREGORY.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ANDREW.

I LIVE IN PRECINCT THREE, JUST EAST OF THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.

COMMISSIONER MOODY IS MY COMMISSIONER. COME UP HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE ARE A CITY OF STADIUMS, INCLUDING ONE THAT IS HIGHLY RECOGNIZABLE AS PART OF OUR CITY SKYLINE.

YET THESE STADIUMS STRUGGLE TO RETAIN RESIDENT PERFORMERS AND ORGANIZATIONS.

THERE'S A CONSTANT NEED TO FIND EVENTS, MUSICAL TOURS, ETC., FOR INSTANCE, TO FILL THE ALAMODOME EVEN WHEN THOSE EVENTS DO NOT MAKE UP FOR THE OPERATING COST OF THE FACILITY. WE'VE HEARD PROMISES OF LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS BEFORE.

WE'VE WE'VE HEARD PROMISES OF LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS TODAY.

AND YET THERE'S ONLY ONE LARGE BIG LEAGUE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM ORGANIZATION IN THE CITY.

THEM AS WELL AS THE MINOR LEAGUE TEAMS THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THAT HAVE HAD HERE, THE MISSIONS, THE, THE FOOTBALL CLUB, THE, THE RAMPAGE ARE ALL CONTROLLED BY THE SAME PEOPLE.

THIS IS EFFECTIVELY A SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT MONOPOLY.

THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS DYNAMIC AND THEY ARE SQUEEZING EVERYTHING THEY CAN OUT OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY, OF THE COUNTY, FOR ALL THAT THEY CAN PROJECT MARVEL WILL NOT CHANGE THIS DYNAMIC.

IT WOULD ONLY SADDLE THE PEOPLE WITH A DEBT ITEM, AN EXPENSE.

AS GRANT MOODY HAS MENTIONED IN THE LAST ITEM WE HAD BEFORE THIS TOPIC THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, EVEN IF IT COMES FROM A TAX THAT IS COMES FROM A HOTEL OCCUPANCY THAT CAN BE USED IN OTHER PLACES, IN BETTER PLACES. ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION PLAN WILL OVERWHELMINGLY FACILITATE THE FLOW OF MONEY FROM SPURS FANS TO THE SPURS ORGANIZATION.

FOR THIS REASON, THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS NEED TO BE FUNDED SOLELY BY THE SPURS ORGANIZATION WITH NO PUBLIC FUNDS.

A RAISE IN PUBLIC FUNDS TO LINE THE POCKETS OF PRIVATE SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.

IT IS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS THAT THEY'RE UNPOPULAR, THAT THESE PLANNING PROCEDURES ARE GOING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

UNFORTUNATELY, SOME PUBLIC OFFICIALS, SOME CITY MANAGERIAL STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THAT DOLLARS HAVE AS MUCH OF A VOTING, SAY, AS THE CITIZENS. PROJECT MARVEL IS A FUNNEL.

FOR THAT REASON, IT IS A FUNNEL OF FUNDS TO THE SPURS ORGANIZATION.

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SO MY REQUEST TO YOU IS TO TAKE THE PROPOSAL AS WRITTEN CURRENTLY AND THROW IT IN THE TRASH AND COME BACK SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY SERVES THE PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO.

THANK YOU, SHAWN BAKER.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. MY NAME IS SHAWN.

AND BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE LIVING ON THE EAST SIDE AND WORKING IN THE PROPOSED SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT FOOTPRINT.

I OPPOSE VOTING TO USE ANY PUBLIC FUNDS FOR VENUE PROJECTS BECAUSE IT CONTINUES A LONG PATTERN OF DISPLACEMENT AND EXPLOITATION.

THE ASSOCIATED GENTRIFICATION WITH THIS PROJECT IS ROOTED IN THE SAME PROFIT DRIVEN LOGIC THAT HAS DISPLACED WORKING FAMILIES FOR GENERATIONS IN CITIES ALL AROUND THE WORLD. PROJECTS LIKE THIS HAND PUBLIC RESOURCES TO PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WHILE PUSHING OUT THE VERY PEOPLE WHO MAKE TOURIST INDUSTRY PROFITS POSSIBLE.

THE COOKS, HOTEL STAFF AND CONSTRUCTION WORKERS.

ASIDE FROM DEGRADING CONDITIONS, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT GUARANTEED BENEFITS HARDWORKING CITIZENS WILL RECEIVE.

I'M TIRED OF BEING A CITY THAT GLOATS ABOUT HOW MANY LOW WAGE LABOR JOBS WE HAVE TO OFFER, AND CONTINUES TO GLOSS OVER ONGOING ISSUES TO SUIT PROFITABILITY.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED THESE CONCERNS BEFORE. THE LAST TWO STADIUMS WERE SOLD AS OPPORTUNITIES TO GENERATE MEANINGFUL ECONOMIC AND FISCAL RETURNS, BUT EACH TIME THEY FAILED TO DELIVER. FOR WORKING FAMILIES, OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE CONTINUED TO FACE LOW WAGES, RISING RENTS AND THE CONSTANT THREAT OF BEING PRICED OUT.

THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THIS NEW DISTRICT WILL ONLY ACCELERATE DISPLACEMENT WHILE PANDERING TO DEVELOPERS.

IF WE WANT TO KEEP UP WITH OTHER MAJOR CITIES, WE NEED TO ASK WHO'S BEING LEFT BEHIND.

IMAGINE BEING KNOWN AS A CITY THAT PRIORITIZES ITS RESIDENTS BEFORE INDUSTRY, TAKING AN ACTIVE ROLE IN ERADICATING GENERATIONAL POVERTY BY LAYING A STRONG FOUNDATION BASED ON NEEDS. NOT ONCE. TRUE INVESTMENT IN SAN ANTONIO MEANS PAYING ATTENTION TO ITS PEOPLE WITH HOUSING THEY CAN AFFORD AND WAGES THEY CAN SURVIVE ON.

THIS PROJECT HAS NOT DEMONSTRATED ITS ABILITY TO OFFER THIS.

AND IN A STATE LIKE TEXAS, WHERE RENT CONTROL IS PROHIBITED.

APPROVING THIS PLAN WITHOUT REAL PROTECTIONS WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE AND EXACERBATE THE EXISTING HOUSING CRISIS.

I'D RATHER USE OUR VALUABLE EFFORTS TO TALK ABOUT PLANS FOR LIMITS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS, OR MEASURES TO PREVENT RENT SPIKES.

THESE ARE EFFORTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PAVE THE WAY FOR GENERATIONAL WEALTH.

I ASK THAT WE LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES AND REJECT CONSIDERATION TO USE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS FOR THESE INEFFICIENT AND UNPRODUCTIVE VENUE PROJECTS.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INSTEAD ADDRESS EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRULY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CALL SAN ANTONIO HOME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GRAYSON MARU.

HELLO. MY NAME IS GRAYSON AND I'M A RESIDENT OF PRECINCT TWO AND A CONSTITUENT OF JUSTIN RODRIGUEZ.

I'M HERE AS A CONSTITUENT TO EXPRESS THAT I DO NOT WANT PUBLIC MONEY SPENT ON THESE PROJECTS, AND THAT THESE QUESTIONS SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON THE BALLOT THIS NOVEMBER. THE MONEY THAT WOULD FUND THESE PROJECTS IS FUNDAMENTALLY PRODUCED BY THE LABOR OF SAN ANTONIO WORKERS AND SHOULD BE USED TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF AND MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE.

RESEARCH AND EXPERIENCE SHOW THAT STADIUM PROJECTS DO NOT BRING ECONOMIC GROWTH.

WHAT IT WILL BRING IS GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT TO ALREADY DISENFRANCHIZED COMMUNITIES. OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED AT THE LACK OF DEMOCRATIC ENGAGEMENT IN THIS PROCESS IS INDICATIVE OF A GOVERNMENT THAT SERVES THE INTERESTS OF THE WEALTHY, AND NOT THE INTERESTS OF WORKING PEOPLE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SARAH MOCK.

HI. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT MY OPPOSITION TO USING THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FOR THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO DOWNTOWN VENUES AND THE BUILDING OF ANOTHER SPURS SPURS STADIUM, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PROJECT MARVEL.

I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE, AND I'M A CONSTITUENT OF PRECINCT FOUR.

AND I WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT. I'M HERE BECAUSE I AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THINK IT IS APPALLING THAT THIS PROJECT HAS MOVED ALONG AS FAR AS IT HAS, WITHOUT SUFFICIENT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, WITHOUT ADEQUATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO DEMOCRATICALLY PARTICIPATE IN DECISION MAKING, AND WITHOUT ANY CARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS PROJECT.

NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT DECADES OF RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT STADIUMS ARE BAD INVESTMENTS FOR CITIES WHOSE RETURNS NEVER LIVE UP TO WHAT IS PROMISED IN THE BEGINNING BY DEVELOPERS AND ECONOMISTS. WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL COME GENTRIFICATION, INCREASES IN PROPERTY TAXES,

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AND THE FURTHER DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF THE EAST SIDE.

FOLLOWING GENERATIONS OF BROKEN PROMISES. OVER 50% OF PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO ARE COST BURDENED, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY SPEND MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME TOWARDS HOUSING.

OF THAT 30%, OR OF THAT 50%, HALF ARE SIGNIFICANTLY COST BURDENED, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY PAY OVER 50% OF THEIR INCOME TOWARDS HOUSING COSTS.

FOR EVERY $100 INCREASE IN HOUSING COSTS. HOMELESSNESS INCREASES BY 9%, WHICH IS A CRAZY NUMBER.

SO I REALLY URGE YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE POLICIES THAT ARE CREATED HERE WILL ACTUALLY IMPACT PEOPLE'S LIVES.

AND I THINK THAT THE WAY THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO THE PUBLIC IS A FARCE THAT HAS BEEN ENACTED TO GIVE IT THE VENEER OF LEGITIMACY AND DEMOCRATIC CONSENT.

THIS PROJECT IS VERY TRANSPARENTLY THE PRODUCT OF BACKDOOR DEALS BETWEEN CITY OFFICIALS AND DEVELOPERS TO LINE THEIR POCKETS AND PUSH PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES IN THE NAME OF PROFIT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR DOWNTOWN WORKERS, WHOSE LABOR CREATES THE WEALTH THAT PAYS FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS, SHOULD BE THE CORNERSTONE OF THIS PROJECT, NOT AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

AND THE COUNTY SHOULD NOT BE GIVING PUBLIC MONEY TO MILLIONAIRES LIKE PETER HOLT HERE, WHO USED THE THREAT OF REVOKING THEIR BUSINESS IN SAN ANTONIO TO FORCE UNPOPULAR POLICY ON THE REST OF US. GENTRIFICATION IS A PROCESS THAT RESULTS FROM POLICY CHOICES BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU, AND IT ROBS FAMILIES OF THEIR HOMES THAT THEY LIVED IN FOR GENERATIONS, STEALS THEIR LIVELIHOODS, AND DESTROYS NEIGHBORHOODS FOREVER. IT IS PREVENTABLE, AND YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO PREVENT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LETICIA VELA.

HELLO, I'M LETICIA VELA. I LIVE AT IN THE MEDICAL CENTER AREA.

SO IN A NEW HOUSING SENIOR HOUSING LIVING COMMUNITY THAT WAS IS DONE WITH PUBLIC FUNDING ON A VOTE.

THOSE ARE THE KIND OF PROJECTS THAT THE CITY NEEDS.

IT HAS HELPED ME AND SEVERAL WHERE I LIVE. AND SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS FOR THE CITY AND KEEP KEEP HAVING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING.

SO I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO. I ACTUALLY DID LEAVE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND I GOT TO SEE OTHER PLACES THAT WERE BETTER THAN SAN ANTONIO. AND I'M OPPOSED TO THE NEW ARENA AND THE VENUE PROJECT AS A WHOLE. I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS OF DOWNTOWN.

I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. SO I SAW DOWNTOWN WHEN IT WAS WHEN IT HAD BETTER DAYS.

THIS NEW STUFF JUST REALLY DOESN'T WORK. I TRIED TO DRIVE FROM THE LIBRARY TO THE SOUTH.

THE SOUTH SIDE OF DOWNTOWN. AND IT WAS A HORRIBLE DRIVE DOWN, DOWN SAINT MARY STREET.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS CONVOLUTED DOWNTOWN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS VENUE PLACE, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DO HAVE THAT WE NEED TO UPLIFT. AT THE HEMISPHERE AREA, WE HAVE UNAM AND THE MEXICAN CONSULATE THAT HAVE BUILDINGS THERE.

THEY DO EXCELLENT PROGRAMING. WE'RE JUST GOING TO TEAR UP EVERYTHING AROUND THEM AND MAKE THEM SUFFER LIKE WE'VE DONE ALL AROUND THIS CITY FOR ALL KINDS OF BUSINESSES. AND WE'RE NEVER AND WE'RE NOT, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HELPING THEM.

RIGHT NOW. THE MAGIC THEATER IS IN DIRE STRAITS AS WELL.

THEY HAVE NO AIR CONDITIONING. THEY HAVE NO ACCESS ON ALAMO STREET.

YOU COME DOWN TO THE EAST SIDE, TO THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN, AND BOTH MARKET SQUARE FACILITIES HAVE NO AIR CONDITIONING. THEY'VE NEVER BEEN UPGRADED. AND IT'S HORRIBLE.

JUST YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AT THOSE SITUATIONS DOWN THE STREET A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE WEST.

YOU HAVE AN ADDICTION AND HOUSELESS COMMUNITY LIVING ON THE STREETS, BUT YET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW SPORTS ARENA THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY KIND OF SENSE. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LONG ENOUGH THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HAS HAD A STRANGLEHOLD ON US AS A CITY, AND WE NEED TO DO BETTER.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BASMA ABU SA'ID.

HELLO. MY NAME IS BUSCEMA. I'M A CONSTITUENT OF JUSTIN RODRIGUEZ AND PRECINCT TWO.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO ANY PUBLIC FUNDING BEING USED FOR PROJECT MARVEL, INCLUDING REVENUE FROM THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

PETER HOLT STATEMENT EARLIER WAS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS.

HE STANDS IN FRONT OF THE COURT AND SPEAKS OF THE SUCCESSES BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SPURS.

HE SPEAKS IN FRONT OF THE COURT OF THE SUPPOSED SUCCESSES OF THE FROST BANK CENTER.

YET IN THE MEDIA, HE CONDEMNS THE SPURS FAN EXPERIENCE.

HE SPEAKS ILL OF THE FROST BANK CENTER. HE DIMINISHES THAT SAME SUCCESS THAT HE BRINGS UP IN THE COURT.

NOT EVEN PETER HOLTZ CAN DENY THE FAILURE THAT WAS THE FROST BANK CENTER, SO DON'T MAKE THAT SAME MISTAKE AGAIN.

THE SPURS COMPANY HAS PLEDGED $500 $100 MILLION FOR A PROJECT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY COST UPWARDS OF 5 BILLION.

NOT TO MENTION INEVITABLE DELAYS THAT COME WITH THESE EXTREMELY BLOATED PROJECTS THAT WILL INCREASE COST EVEN MORE, WITH NO RETURN FOR THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO.

THIS IS BARELY A DROP IN THE BUCKET, AND THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BANKROLL AN EGO PROJECT THAT GIVES US NOTHING.

PETER HOLT AND HIS MILLIONAIRE FRIENDS ARE ASKING YOU TO IGNORE OUR PAST MISTAKES, AND TO IGNORE THE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH THAT SHOWS SPORTS STADIUMS ARE NOT A BENEFICIAL INVESTMENT FOR THE CITIES. THEY DO NOT CREATE FULL TIME, WELL-PAYING JOBS.

THEY DO NOT BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, IN THE STADIUMS, IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE STADIUMS ARE BEING BUILT IN.

JUST ASK THE EAST SIDE RESIDENTS IF THE FROST BANK CENTER DELIVERED ON THE PROMISES THAT WERE MADE IN THE 90S.

OH, WAIT. Y'ALL DID. TOMMY CALVERT HOSTED THOSE SO-CALLED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS THAT PROVED THAT EAST SIDE CITIZENS ARE NOT CONTENT WITH THIS PROJECT AND DO NOT APPROVE. MAKE THE DECISION TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

MAKE THE DECISION TO VOTE NO ON ANY PUBLIC FUNDS BEING USED FOR PROJECT MARVEL.

THANK YOU. IS IT JACOB TUCKER? I'M JAKE TUCKER WITH A PUEBLO OF PROFIT, A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION ADVOCATING AGAINST POLICIES THAT LEAD TO GINGER THAT LEAD TO GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT WHILE PROMOTING HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT. WE CALL ON THIS COURT TO REJECT THIS PROJECT NEGOTIATED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITHOUT MEETING MEANINGFUL PUBLIC INPUT.

SPECIFICALLY, WE CALL ON YOU TO REJECT ANY PUBLIC FUNDING FOR A NEW SPURS ARENA.

OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I'VE BEEN TO ONE OF COMMISSIONER CALVERT TOWN HALLS, THREE OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS HOSTED BY ABEL CITY, AND THE RECENT SPECIAL SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL.

IN EACH INSTANCE, THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY DISTRUSTFUL OF THE CURRENT PLANS FOR A SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

FURTHER, THE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH REGARDING PUBLIC FUNDING FOR SPORTS STADIUMS IS VERY CLEAR.

THAT IS ALMOST ALWAYS A TERRIBLE INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDING, GENERATING FAR LESS ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC THAN ALTERNATIVES, OFFERING BETTER EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR WORKERS AND A LONGER TERM COMMITMENT.

STADIUMS OFFER PRIMARILY TEMPORARY, PART TIME AND LOW WAGE JOBS.

IN HIS TESTIMONY, PETER HOLT, CHAIRMAN OF THE SPURS, DETAILED THE CITY'S PAYING OVER HALF OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF NEW STADIUMS, CITING OUR SMALL MARKET AS A REASON TO PAY UP.

WE'RE ALSO ONE OF THE POOREST CITIES PER CAPITA OF NBA CITIES.

IS THAT ANOTHER REASON WHY WE SHOULD MAKE BAD ECONOMIC DECISIONS? SO IF CONSTITUENTS HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY SPOKEN AGAINST THIS, IF THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THESE DEALS ARE POOR USE OF PUBLIC DOLLARS, AND IF THE PEOPLE YOU SERVE HAVE FAR MORE NEEDS THAN REPLACING A PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE STADIUM, THEN WHAT PUBLIC SERVING REASON IS THERE TO PONY UP FOR OUR PUBLIC MONEY TO MAINTAIN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH AN OWNERSHIP GROUP HOLDING US HOSTAGE? UNLESS WE GIVE THE RICHEST AMONG US OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS, WE REJECT THIS CORRUPT RACE TO THE BOTTOM APPROACH, ARISING EVERY COUPLE OF DECADES AND CALLING YOU TO USE OUR PUBLIC MONEY FOR PUBLIC GOOD.

SINCE I HAVE A MINUTE LEFT, I REALLY WANT TO REJECT THIS IDEA THAT WE SPEND LIKE THAT.

THIS FUNDING COMES FROM TOURISTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, AND I WORKED FOR ALMOST A DECADE IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY

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LIKE THAT, THAT REVENUE IS CREATED BY THE WORKERS WHO WORK THOSE JOBS.

AND JUST SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, UNTIL MY MY HOTEL BECAME A UNION HOTEL.

THOSE JOBS ARE ABUSIVE. THEY'RE LOW WAGE. AND, I MEAN, THEY WOULD WORK AS 12, 14, 16, 18 HOURS A NIGHT TO GET THINGS READY FOR, FOR THE NEXT DAY AND SO ON. AND SO WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR BETTER JOBS IN SAN ANTONIO, NOT USING THE, THE, THE, THE REVENUES THAT COME IN TO CREATE MORE OF THESE SAME KIND OF JOBS.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT GETS ANY MONEY FROM HERE PROVIDES A DECENT, DIGNIFIED, PROFESSIONAL CAREER FOR THE PEOPLE WORKING THOSE JOBS AND NOT JUST LOW WAGE, TERRIBLE, BODY BREAKING JOBS THAT THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON OFFER FROM THE HOTEL STUFF DOWNTOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JACK FINGER.

JUST THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M FINGER. YOU KNOW, IN A COUNTY OF A COUPLE OF MILLION PEOPLE, I MUST BE ONE OF THE VERY FEW THAT SEEM TO SEE THIS BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WILLING TO EXPOSE IT SO.

WELL, HERE IT GOES. READY? FIRE! AIM! YUCK! WHY DO THE SPURS REMIND ME OF.

TO PUT IT GENTLY, A LADY OF THE EVENING WHO HOPS FROM CUSTOMER TO CUSTOMER LOOKING FOR THE BEST DEAL.

I KID YOU NOT. IT WAS BACK IN 93. THEY SAID THAT THE THE HEMISPHERE ARENA.

I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST TOO LOUD, TOO OUTDATED. WE NEED AN ALAMODOME.

AND SO WHAT DID WE DO? WE. WE FOOLISHLY GAVE HIM AN ALBUM AND TORE DOWN THAT STILL USEFUL HEMISPHERE ARENA.

AND ABOUT SEVEN YEARS LATER, THEY COME BACK AND SAY ALAMODOME JUST, JUST, JUST, JUST DOESN'T MEET OUR NEEDS THERE.

WE NEED. WE NEED AN AT&T CENTER. YES. AND IF YOU BUILD THAT AT&T CENTER, YOU JUST WATCH YOU BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.

THOSE BUSINESSES WILL FLOURISH LIKE ANYTHING ON THE EAST SIDE.

THAT SURE WORKED OUT, DIDN'T IT? THERE. YEAH.

SO SO WHAT DO WE DO? WE BUILD THEM AN EIGHT INCH CENTER, SOON TO BE NAMED THE FROST BANK CENTER.

AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF DECADES LATER, THEY SAID, DOGGONE IT, THIS WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONESES ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WE NEED A NEW STADIUM. AND RIGHT CLOSE TO WHERE THE OLD HEMISFAIR ARENA IS JUST INCHES AWAY FROM WHERE IT WAS.

YEAH. AND IF YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO US. WELL, WE'D SURE HATE TO LEAVE FROM 90 MILES UP THE ROAD FOR AUSTIN.

OH, YEAH. WELL, HERE'S THE POINT. IF THERE ARE A BUNCH OF DUMMIES, YES, DUMMIES 90 MILES AWAY WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON THE SPURS TEAM.

I MEAN, WHAT WAS THEIR WHOPPING WINNING RECORD LAST YEAR? I THINK IT WAS 44%. YEAH. WELL, MAYBE THEY JUST HAD A BAD YEAR.

WHAT WAS IT THE YEAR BEFORE? A WHOPPING 24%. OOH.

YEP. THE. LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE SPURS, AS BAD AS THEY ARE, THEY KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME.

AND THEY'RE BETTER AT IT THAN YOU GUYS ARE. PLEASE DON'T FALL FOR THIS STUFF.

YEAH. I MEAN, IF THE SPURS KNOW HOW TO GET THE MONEY, IF THEY REALLY NEED IT, AND IF THEY'RE GOING, IF THEY SAY THEY NEED TO, JUST GOT TO MOVE ON.

WELL, ALL I CAN SAY IS GO. SPURS, GO FAR, FAR AWAY.

YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES ALL THOSE THAT SIGNED UP.

IF YOU DIDN'T SIGN UP. I DO. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT SIGNED UP THAT I DID NOT CALL? ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE.

I DID INDICATE THAT WE WOULD GO TO EXECUTIVE, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST TO CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA AND TRY TO GET THAT OUT. SO AT THIS TIME, LET'S SEE WHAT MATTERS NEED TO BE PULLED.

VOTE ON THE REMAINING ISSUES. CONSENT. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE THE MINUTES AND THEN THE REST OF THE CITIZENS WILL BE HEARD.

SO I'M DOING MY BEST. WE'RE WE'RE AT THE NOON HOUR, SO WE WILL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE TIME CERTAIN ON THE VENUE TAX PROJECTS. AND THEN WE WILL THEN PERHAPS BREAK FOR LUNCH AND THEN COME BACK OUT AFTER THAT.

SO I'M DOING MY VERY BEST TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE'S PRESENCE HERE AND TO KIND OF SIGNAL WHEN WE CAN TAKE UP.

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SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK WITH CONSENT TO THE COURT THAT WE HOLD THE TIME CERTAIN IN ABEYANCE FOR NOW.

WE NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE, REQUESTS FOR COMMISSION OF COMMISSIONERS.

[5. Request of Commissioners Court to identify items from the Consent Agenda for additional discussion and to approve remaining Consent Agenda items.]

COURT TO IDENTIFY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, AND TO APPROVE REMAINING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, ARE THERE ANY MATTERS I'D LIKE TO PULL? 4646.

ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. COMMISSIONER MOODY, I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 3737. OKAY.

NOTHING FOR ME. COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE JUST TWO MATTERS HERE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT? SO MOVED.

SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. SECOND.

BY MR.. COMMISSIONER. CLAY. COMMISSIONER. CLAY-FLORES.

ALL THOSE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THE COURT.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE UP THE REMAINING OR DO YOU WANT TO? LET'S DO THIS ONE. YEAH. CAN WE DO THAT? WELL, LET'S TAKE THE TWO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS, AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO FINISH. THEN WE'LL GO TO THE EXECUTIVE.

LARRY, IF YOU WANT TO DEFER THOSE TWO ITEMS UNTIL AFTER.

THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THE COURT. WE'LL DO THAT. MAYBE TAKE UP THE CITIZENS OR LET'S GO TO CITIZENS.

SO. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET IT OVER WITH. YEAH. OKAY.

SO IF WE GO IN ORDER, I WILL THEN TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM SIX, FILING FOR THE RECORD AND FILING LEGAL ADMINISTRATIVE DOCUMENTS,

[6. Filing for record the following legal and administrative documents and directing the Criminal District Attorney's Office to take action, if necessary: a. FY 2025 Budget for Sheriff's Office State Asset Forfeiture Fund -312 (June 30, 2025). b. Order for Reimbursement of Fees and Costs Paid by Annette Sotelo while on probation, submitted by McLane Law Firm, Casuse No. 2022CR2705. c. Demand to Cease and Desist from trespass and demand to remediate damage, submitted by Gardner Law Firm, Re: David A. Evans. d. Bexar County Auditor's Year End Monthly Financial Reports (Unaudited and Unadjusted) for May 31, 2025. e. Notice of Claim to Owner and Original Contractor Notice of Unpaid Balance and Demand for Payment for Labor Performed and/or Materials Delivered, submitted by Consolidated Service Company, Re: CMC Development & Construction Corp. f. Claim submitted by Action Gypsum Supply, Re: JB Cannon Construction LLC. g. Citation directed to Bexar County Sheriff's Office, Re: Jasel Maday McCray vs. Bexar County Texas et al, Case No. 2025CI15733. h. Citation directed to Bexar County, Texas, Re: John Parker vs. Bexar County, Texas, Case No. 2025CI14610. i. Citation directed to County of Bexar, Re: Maria Antonieta Lopez vs. County of Bexar, State of Texas, Case No. 2025CI14788. 5 7. Commissioners Court minutes for Tuesday, July 8, 2025. 8. Communications from citizens who signed the register to speak.]

AND DIRECTING THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO TAKE ACTION IF NECESSARY.

A THROUGH I WILL TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM SEVEN COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING MINUTES FOR TUESDAY,

[7. Commissioners Court minutes for Tuesday, July 8, 2025.]

JULY 8TH. MOTION APPROVED. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL NOW GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

[8. Communications from citizens who signed the register to speak.]

ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW. I'LL TAKE UP THE CONSTABLES IF THEY'RE STILL HERE.

CONSTABLE TEJADA, PRECINCT ONE.

JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE JUST A FEW MINUTES.

I WAS GOING TO SAY GOOD MORNING, BUT IT'S GOT NO MORE.

I GAVE YOU PACKETS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ.

THE FIRST SECTION IS A MEMO SENT TO THE BUDGET DIRECTOR, MR. DAVID SMITH, OFFERING AN ACCOUNT OF THE PENDING NEEDS AND IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

SECOND IS A SECTION FOR THE TWO BILLS THAT ARE ALREADY PASSED.

APPARENTLY SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE BUDGET OFFICE WEREN'T AWARE OF THE PASSING.

ONE IS GOING TO BE THE SQUATTER LAW, SB 1333.

IT'S EFFECTIVE 20 AND SEPTEMBER OF 2025, AND ALSO SB 38, THE SPEEDY PROCESS RELATED TO EVICTIONS.

THAT WILL BE THE START OF THE YEAR. THE THIRD SECTION UPDATE AND VERIFICATION OF CIVIL PROCESS THAT MY OFFICE HAS EXECUTED FROM OCTOBER 2024 TO JULY 2025.

REPORTS ALL COME FROM THE ODYSSEY AND THE CIVIL SERVICE SYSTEM.

FOURTH SECTION IS A SAMPLE OF BREAKDOWN IN DETAIL OF THE PROCESS OF FMD OR FORCED ENTRY AND DETAINER.

WHAT WHAT I'M EXPLAINING THERE IS HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THE PAPERWORK TO COME FROM THE JP COURT.

HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THE OFFICERS TO GET THE THE PAPERWORK.

AND OF COURSE, IN JANUARY, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE FROM TEN DAYS TO FIVE DAYS.

SO IT'S GOING TO EXPEDITE THE THE EVICTION PROCESS.

FIFTH SECTION IS A LETTER FROM THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL ADDRESSED TO THE COUNTY JUDGE RELATED TO OUR PERFORMANCE.

A FEW YEARS BACK WE STARTED WORKING BETTER WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, AND WE STARTED SERVING MORE OF THAT PROCESS.

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OF COURSE, THEY EMAILED THE INFORMATION WE PRINTED OUT, AND THEN WE WE GET IT SERVED AND RETURNED.

SO EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE DUE DILIGENCE OF HOW MANY ATTEMPTS USUALLY THEY ASK US TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO SERVE THIS PROCESS. THE JP COURTS USUALLY ASK AT LEAST THREE, THREE TIMES TO TRY TO SERVE PROCESS.

SO IT TAKES A LOT OF BACKGROUND AND A LOT OF TRAVELING AND SO ON.

THE SIXTH SECTION IS. DETAILS. SUMMARY OF THE REVENUE GENERATED BY MY OFFICE FROM OCTOBER 20TH 24 TO 20 25TH JULY. I DO HOPE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CHANGES, THE LAWS, MY NEED TO HAVE MY PERSONNEL TO PROPERLY EXECUTE THESE DOCUMENTS.

I'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO WORK WARRANTS AND THE LAST TIME I DID THIS WAS A FEW YEARS AGO.

I PROPOSED TWO CLERKS AND ALSO FOUR OFFICERS.

TWO OFFICERS WERE GOING TO WORK DURING THE DAY AND TWO TWO WERE GOING TO WORK AT NIGHT.

SO RIGHT NOW THE COMPLICATION IS ON EVICTIONS.

ALSO, WE RUN INTO WANTED PEOPLE OF COURSE EXECUTING WARRANTS AND MANY ARE FELONY A, B, C, YOU KNOW, SO IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WHERE WE'RE EVICTING FROM THEIR, THEIR HOMES OR APARTMENTS.

SO RIGHT NOW I'M REALLY NEEDING THESE OFFICERS TO DO A PROPER JOB.

THE PERCENTAGE IS INCREASING EVERY YEAR. IT'S BEEN INCREASING FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

SO I'M I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU KNOW, A WHOLE BUNCH EACH OF THESE OFFICERS THAT ARE SERVING PROCESS WILL PAY FOR THEMSELVES FOR THE AMOUNT OF PROCESS THEY'RE SERVING.

BECAUSE WITH A WITH ANY DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY GET THE BEXAR COUNTY GETS PAID FOR IT.

ALSO, YOU CAN ADJUST ON HOW MUCH YOU PAY FOR THE CIVIL PROCESS, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE GO AND MEET AND DISCUSS WHAT PRICE EACH DOCUMENT IS GOING TO BE COSTING.

SO THE POPULATION IS GROWING. MY AREA IS IS EXPLODING.

SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR TO WHERE I'M JUST WANTING EXTRA PERSONNEL.

ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING. ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SERVING PROCESS.

AND THE BIG, BIG THING IS GOING TO BE SAFETY.

NOW WE'RE HAVING TO SEND OFFICERS MAYBE 2 OR 3 TO AN EVICTION INSTEAD OF JUST ONE BECAUSE OF THEIR SAFETY.

A LOT OF TIMES WE RUN INTO DIFFICULT MATTERS, PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTED ON FELONIES AND SO ON.

SO WE NOT ONLY HAVE TO EVICT THEM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO ARREST THEM.

AND THAT TAKES TIME. I'M WILLING TO WORK THE CLASS A AND B WARRANTS.

BUT IT'S ON THE APPROVAL OF COMMISSIONERS COURT.

WE NEED TO DEVELOP A PROCESS OF THE PROCESS THAT I DEVELOPED YEARS AGO ON ON CLASS C, ON CLASS C MISDEMEANORS WAS TO TAKE THE INDIVIDUALS STRAIGHT TO THE JP INSTEAD OF BOOKING THEM AT THE AG'S OFFICE.

SO THAT GENERATED A LOT OF REVENUE. BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH ME AND HOPEFULLY WITH WITH MR. SMITH, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING.

I KNOW THEY RECOMMENDED TWO OFFICERS, BUT WE REALLY NEED THE PERSONNEL TO DO AN ADEQUATE JOB.

WE NEED THE PERSONNEL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CONSTABLE VASQUEZ.

SHE HAD. SHE HAD TO LEAVE. CONSTABLE ABOVE AVERAGE.

I'M ALLOWING YOU TO COME BACK AND SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, MEMBERS OF THE COURT.

THIS MORNING WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DA'S OFFICE USING UNEXPECTED SALARY FUNDS REDIRECTED TO HIS OFFICE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE SAME APPLICATION OF THE LAW WAS DENIED TO PRECINCT THREE TO USE UNEXPECTED SALARY FUNDS TO MOVE TO OTHER NEEDS WITHIN PRECINCT THREE.

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MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHY WAS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN HANDLING THESE TWO ISSUES, SIR? JUDGE, YOU DID WELL IN YOUR FIRST YEAR MEETING WITH US AND WORKING TOWARDS SEVERAL CRITICAL GOALS, ADDRESSING PAST INJUSTICES AND ALONG WITH THE CONSTABLES, EVEN OFFERING YOUR CELL NUMBER AND AN INVITATION TO TALK OR MEET AT ANY TIME.

BUT THAT HAS NOT YET HAPPENED. I'VE SENT EMAILS, REQUESTED MEETINGS WITH YOU AND YOUR CHIEF OF STAFF WITHOUT RESULT.

STAFF RECENTLY SET A MEETING DATE FOR YOURSELF AND THE CONSTABLES, AND WHEN I SENT THEM A LETTER TWO DAYS AHEAD OF THE MEETING, STATING THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE PERCEPTION OF A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND A REQUEST OF YOUR STAFF TO OBEY THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND LAW.

THE MEETING WAS CANCELED AND WAS NEVER RESCHEDULED.

THIS COURT ADDITIONALLY HAD DECIDED TO VOTE AGAINST ADDING AN ADDITIONAL SRO TO OUR NORTH SCHOOLS, PROTECTING THESE KIDS IN THE NORTH INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND TABLED IT NEVER TO REVISIT THAT PARTICULAR DECISION.

THAT'S A POSITION FULLY PAID FOR BY THE COMAL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUDGET IS A CONTINUING ISSUE. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE COMPETING NEEDS AND THEY GET DIRECTION FROM THE COURT ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT ONE AREA THAT SHOULD NOT BE OCCURRING IS MICROMANAGING THE WORDS AND THE EFFECTS INSIDE AN ELECTED OFFICIALS OFFICE THAT IS STRICTLY SUPPOSED TO BE THEIR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE THAT NO OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL, LET ALONE STAFF OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, SHOULD BE INTRUDING ON.

THEY SHOULD NOT SUBSTITUTE THEIR JUDGMENT FOR MINE IN THE CASE OF PRECINCT THREE.

DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYTHING I ASKED FOR WILL BE APPROVED BY THE COURT, BUT AT JUDGMENT LEVEL, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD PREFER TO GET TWO NECESSARY MOTORCYCLES TO DO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

I'VE USED THEM IN THE PAST IN PRECINCT THREE, BUT THE STAFF RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND THAT A POLICY NEEDS TO BE CREATED FOR THE USE OF POLICE MOTORCYCLES. THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED AS FAR AS I KNOW.

THE SAFETY ISSUE IS A FALSE NARRATIVE, AS THE BCSO STILL OPERATES 7 TO 9 BMW MOTORCYCLES AND OUR TRAINING IS IDENTICAL TO THAT OF THE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. BUT THE THE DENIED CHAIN, WHERE WE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO USE MOTORCYCLES, ACTUALLY HAS A HIDDEN COST, NOT JUST IN OPERATING EXPENSES, BUT IT ALSO SHIFTS THE COST TO TAXPAYERS IN ABOUT $300,000 IN INCIDENTAL FINE REVENUE OVER THREE YEARS.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PRODUCTIVITY OF A MOTOR UNIT AND SOMEBODY IN A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE, A TRAFFIC UNIT THAT CAN BE GETTING INTO THESE SCHOOL ZONES AND THESE SMALL COMPARTMENTED AREAS SAFELY IS A MOTORCYCLE.

SO THAT MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES, THAT VIOLATORS WOULD HAVE HAD TO PAY THE COSTS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

INSTEAD, NOW IT'S SHIFTED THAT COST OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.

COMMISSIONERS TIME HAS EXPIRED. TIME IS UP. CONSTABLE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. PENNY. HALL. PENNY.

GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO. WELL, NOT MORNING.

AFTERNOON NOW FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS PENNY.

PENNY. AND I'M SPEAKING TO YOU IN REGARDING TO THE PRIVATE ROAD IN BEXAR COUNTY THAT IS OWNED BY MY DAUGHTERS, ELLEN BROOKER, MARGARET MARIE FERGUSON, MY NEPHEW, JOHNNY ANYHOW, PENNY AND GREAT NIECE SYDNEY HAL PENNY, WHO IS A DAUGHTER OF MY NEPHEW DAVID RAY, HELPING MY BROTHER'S YOUNGEST SON.

I WAS APPOINTED ADMINISTRATOR OF THE HOUSE OF STATE PROPERTY UPON MY FATHER'S PASSING IN 1976, UNTIL MY BROTHER WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON IN 1978.

THEREAFTER, I SERVED ONLY AS NEEDED, AS REQUESTED BY THOSE NAMED ABOVE.

UPON MY BROTHER'S RELEASE FROM PRISON IN 1978, HE MAINLY LIVED OUT OF STATE AND WHEN UNAVAILABLE, ASKED ME TO CONTINUE TO HANDLE ANY LAND ISSUES ON HIS BEHALF.

I CONSULTED HIM REGULARLY AND REGARDING EVERY LAND DEED GIVEN AND EVERY RIGHT OF WAY CONVEYANCE, AS HE WAS A PRIMARY LANDOWNER AND I WAS ACTING ON HIS AND MY DAUGHTER'S BEHALF.

FOR AS MY FATHER'S WILL, PER MY FATHER'S WILL.

MY ELDEST DAUGHTER, MARGARET, TURNED 23 IN 1984, 84, AND MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER, ELLEN, TURNED 23 IN 1986, AT WHICH TIME THEY BOTH BECAME CO-OWNERS AND WITH FULL RIGHTS OF SIGNATORY ON THE PROPERTY OF MY FATHER'S.

THE TIMELINE CREATED IS BASED ON THE BEXAR COUNTY RECORDS.

IN 2020, A NEW SUBDIVISION WAS BEING CONSTRUCTED BEHIND THE HOUSE.

ANY PROPERTY IN QUESTION. BY 2023, THE NEW SUBDIVISION BEGAN DRIVING ON THE HAL PENNY ROAD, WHICH IS A PRIVATE ROAD. ONE OF THE OWNERS, MISS SMITH.

WHO LIVES THERE AND HAS A RIGHT OF WAY CONVEYANCE BEGAN, COMPLAINED TO THE CITY OF HELOTES AND TO BEXAR COUNTY.

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I ACCOMPANIED HER IN TWO TRIPS AND STOOD BY HER, ALSO VOICING MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE INTRUSION ON BEHALF OF OTHER LANDOWNERS.

WHEN THE COMPLAINTS FALL ON DEAF EARS ON HER OWN, MISS SMITH BEGAN DIGGING THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS IN BEXAR COUNTY REGARDING THE ROAD TO FIND OUT HOW TO PROTECT HER RIGHT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND TO SEE IF SHE AND OTHER RANCH OWNERS COULD FIGHT THE COUNTY ON THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM MCCRAE MCCRARY SUBDIVISION VIA AN ACROSS ONTO SUNSET HILL.

IT IS THROUGH HER INVESTIGATION THAT SHE LEARNED OF A DOCUMENT FILED IN 1993 WHICH WAS PERPETRATED, WHICH WAS PURPORTED, SIGNED AND NOTARIZED IN 1977 BY ME.

NOT ONLY DID I NEVER CREATE THIS DOCUMENT, BUT I NEVER SIGNED SUCH A DOCUMENT, NOR DID I EVER FILE SUCH A DOCUMENT WITH THE COUNTY.

AND WHEN I ASKED TO SEE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT TO VERIFY THAT NO ONE COULD PRODUCE THE DOCUMENT FOR ME OR MRS. SMITH'S REVIEW. AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS, AND SINCE JUDGE SAKAI WOULD NOT TELL PENNY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO YOU. I ALSO NOTICED HOW JOHNNY, HOW PENNY I GOT.

MARGARET FERGUSON. ELLEN BROOKER I ASSUME THAT'S ALL OF YOU RIGHT THERE.

CAN I JUST ASK, WHAT PRECINCT IS THE PROPERTY THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING? IT'S. AND IF WE COULD JUST GET IN THE LOTUS AREA.

WHAT THE HELL, OTIS? WHAT PRECINCT? TWO AND THREE.

YES. IT'S LIKE SO COMMISSIONERS, IS THIS ON YOUR RADAR? CAN WE HAVE STAFF HELP HER? YEAH, I THINK I THINK WE'VE YOU WERE HERE BEFORE.

IS THAT RIGHT, MA'AM? AND I THINK THAT WAS ON ANOTHER.

OH. ANOTHER AGENDA? YES, SIR. AND IT'S JUST THE CASE THAT THE COUNTY TOOK OVER A ROAD THAT WAS A PRIVATE ROAD, USING MY NAME AS IF I GAVE THE COUNTY THE ROAD, WHICH WAS AN ILLEGAL FEATURE.

ART REINHARDT, WHERE ARE YOU? ART REINHARDT, I NEED YOU TO TALK WITH THE FAMILY.

TALK TO PUBLIC WORKS, PLEASE. I THINK IT'S IN PRECINCT TWO.

PRISON THREE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT. WE'D REALLY LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER'S REGARDING THIS BECAUSE SHE'S ALREADY TRIED TO TALK TO MR. REINHART. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL, I MEAN, I'M GENERALLY AWARE OF THE ISSUE.

MY STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH YOU FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

NO, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING WITH ME ON THIS PARTICULAR CITIZEN'S TO BE HEARD.

STOP, STOP. I'M GOING TO. I'M GOING TO CUT THIS OFF.

I'M SORRY. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO. BUT I'M TRYING TO GET YOU ON THERE, SO HELP US OUT.

WHERE CAN WE MOVE FORWARD? WELL HOW ABOUT WHEN YOU GUYS STEP AWAY? YOU CAN SIT WITH ART AND JENNY FROM MY TEAM. I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION, BUT. YEAH, I CAN HAVE FRANCESCA INVOLVED. I THINK THEY'RE PRECINCT THREE RESIDENTS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO COORDINATE WITH YOU.

OKAY. COULD YOU DO THAT, PLEASE? AND IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE INVITED BACK AT THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING TO OFFICIATE.

I'M FROM OUT OF TOWN, AND I CAME DOWN JUST FOR THIS MEETING.

OKAY. OKAY. I CAN'T. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. SO, MISS HALPIN, YOU'RE DONE.

WHO ARE YOU? I'M MARGARET FERGUSON. MISS BOOKER.

YOU GOT YOUR THREE MINUTES? YEAH. ELLEN. MARGARET.

MARGARET. FERGUSON. MARGARET. FERGUSON. YES. FERGUSON.

FERGUSON. OH. YOUR. FERGUSON, MR.. FERGUSON. I'M MARGARET FERGUSON. I'M HERE SPEAKING ABOUT CONCERNS REGARDING THE PRIVATE ROAD IN BEXAR COUNTY THAT I CO-OWN.

THE FOLLOWING TIMELINE OCCURRED ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN COMMISSIONERS COURT AND PUBLIC WORK RECORDS.

IN FEBRUARY 1992, PUBLIC WORKS AMENDED PROCEDURES FOR ASSESSING COSTS OF IMPROVING ROADS AND SUBDIVISIONS WITH THE COURT ORDER ARTICLE 2.201.

ONE OR MORE OF THE RECORD OWNERS IN THE SUBDIVISION MUST DELIVER TO THE DEPARTMENT A WRITTEN REQUEST TO BE CONSIDERED FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADS IN SUBDIVISION AND OR ACCESS ROAD THERETO AND ASSESSMENTS. MARCH 30TH, 1993, AFTER 16 YEARS OF MAINTAINING GRAVEL ROADS, THE SUNSET VALLEY RANCH PROPERTY OWNERS APPLIED TO THE COUNTY FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

THE HELP. ANY FAMILY IS NOT CONSULTED OR INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATIONS.

A PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 18TH, 1993.

MAY 18TH, 1993 A PUBLIC MEETING IS HELD REGARDING THE SUNSET VALLEY RANCH SUBDIVISION PROPERTY OWNERS APPLICATION FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

HOWEVER, NO ACTION IS RECORDED IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES YET.

PAPERWORK FROM A SEPTEMBER 27TH, 1995 COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING STATES THAT AN ELECTION WAS ORDERED AT THIS TIME.

JUNE 29TH, 1993 RESULTS OF AN ELECTION WERE DECLARED ON COMMISSIONERS COURT AND A MAJORITY OF RECORD OWNERS OF THE SQUARE.

FOOTAGE OF THE SUBDIVISION FAVORED ASSESSMENTS AND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

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THE COMMISSIONERS COURT RECORDS NO ACTUAL RECORDS OF THE ELECTION OF THE HOMEOWNERS.

JULY 19TH, 1993 PUBLIC WORKS DECLARES THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FROM JUNE 22ND, 1993, YET THERE ARE NO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MINUTES FOR THIS DATE.

RECORDING REGARDING THE VOTE BY THE RANCH AND PROPERTY OWNERS.

JULY 20TH, 1993. AT A REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF BEXAR COUNTY, IT IS ORDERED THAT PUBLIC WORKS PURCHASED FROM PENELOPE HELP ANY DAY. DOMINGUEZ, ADMINISTRATOR OF THE ESTATE OF DAVID LISTER, HELP ANY ATTRACTIVE LAND FOR THE RIGHT WAY.

PURCHASE FOR $10. ALSO ORDERS THE DEED OF 7.987 ACRES OF LAND TO BE TAKEN INTO THE NAME OF BEXAR COUNTY, AND TO BE RECORDED IN THE REAL PROPERTY RECORD OF BEXAR COUNTY.

THE HELP ANY LANDOWNERS AREN'T NOTIFIED. OCTOBER 5TH, 1993 A MYSTERIOUS DOCUMENT IS FILED WITH THE COUNTY THAT HAS A SIGNATURE NOTARIZED IN 1997, GIVING THE PROPERTY TO BEXAR COUNTY THE HELP.

ANY LANDOWNERS AREN'T NOTIFIED. SO NOT ONLY DOES THE COURT ORDER PUBLIC WORKS TO TAKE A PROPERTY WITHOUT PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF ANY OF THE LANDOWNERS 32 YEARS AGO, BUT THEY TOOK IT BY A FRAUDULENT DOCUMENT.

THEN THE MADE THE LANDOWNERS THAT ARE THERE NOW PAY TO HAVE A ROAD PAVED THAT IS NOW A PUBLIC ROAD.

THERE ARE TOO MANY CONTRADICTIONS, CONTRADICTIONS IN YOUR OWN TIMELINE.

THE 32 YEARS HAVE PASSED. THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON DISCOVERING A FRAUDULENT DOCUMENT IS FOUR YEARS, AND THE CLOCK IS TICKING. WE NOW WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER FURTHER.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. DID THE OTHERS GO AHEAD? GOOD AFTERNOON. I'LL MAKE THIS BRIEF. WE BELIEVE THERE WAS FRAUDULENT ACQUISITION OF OUR PRIVATE ROAD.

AND I THINK WE HEARD THE BISHOP IN HIS CLOSING, SAY LOVE OVER POWER.

SO WE ASK THAT WE BE HEARD ON THIS SUBJECT. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PIPELINE.

THIS HAS TO DO WITH OUR OWNERSHIP OF A PRIVATE ROAD THAT WAS FRAUDULENTLY TAKEN.

AND WE'RE CALLING IT OUT, AND WE WANT TO BE MET AND HEARD ABOUT THIS WITH A REASONABLE RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

HELLO. MY NAME IS ELLEN BROOKER AND I'M SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY ON REGARDING A PRIVATE ROAD IN BEXAR COUNTY THAT I'M ALSO A CO-OWNER OF.

IT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM US FRAUDULENTLY IN 1993 WITHOUT MY OR ANY OF THE OTHER CO-OWNERS PERMISSION OR KNOWLEDGE. SINCE THE FRAUDULENT DOCUMENT WAS UNEARTHED FROM OUR OWN COUNTY RECORDS WITH THE AUTHORITY OF OTHER CO-OWNERS, MY MOTHER, PENNY HALPIN, HAD A MEETING WITH NEW BEXAR COUNTY WORKS DIRECTOR, MR. REINHOLD, REGARDING THIS MATTER, TO NO AVAIL.

SHE HAD MADE NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS TO MEET WITH JUDGE SAKAI AND HAS REPEATEDLY BEEN DENIED ACCESS.

WE NOW REQUEST A PRIVATE MEETING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS OR THEIR OFFICE TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER AND PRESENT THE DOCUMENTS THAT PROVE THIS FRAUD, THIS FRAUD. EVERY DOCUMENT WE'VE RECOVERED IS IN THE BEXAR COUNTY RECORDS.

THE TIMELINE WE'VE CREATED IS BASED ON THESE RECORDS, IS ACCURATE AND IRREFUTABLE.

THE SOLE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY NEVER SIGNED OR TRANSFERRED ANY DEED TO THE COUNTY, NOR WOULD WE HAVE EVER DONE SO.

THE FALSIFIED DOCUMENT WAS USED FOR THIS TRANSFER WAS DATED 1977.

IT WAS NOTARIZED IN 1977 BY PENNY HALPIN TO DOMINGUEZ.

IN 1977, THE TRANSFER DEED WAS FILED IN 1993 WITH THESE 1977 SIGNATURES.

IF WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MEET WITH THE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSS THIS MATTER, THEN WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO FURTHER FOLLOW THE ADVICE GIVEN TO US IN DECEMBER, AS OUTLINED IN THE LAST CORRESPONDENCE FROM CYNTHIA COSS, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, LOCATED IN JUDGE STARKEY'S OFFICE. SHE EMAILED MY MOTHER, PENNY HALPIN, AND I QUOTE, IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS ALLEGING THAT THIS DEED RECORDED IN THEIR OFFICE IS FRAUDULENT. YOU WILL NEED TO SEEK YOUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT'S HELP.

AND THEN SHE PROVIDED US WITH A DIRECT NUMBER.

WE GIVE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT SEVEN DAYS TO REVIEW THIS MATTER, IN ORDER TO RETURN THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THIS PRIVATE ROAD TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS.

IF YOU DO NOT, THEN WE WILL SEEK LEGAL ACTION AFTER THE SEVEN DAYS HAVE PASSED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

I HEAR YOU CLEARLY THEN. I'M GOING TO. IN LIGHT OF THAT LAST STATEMENT, I'M ADVISING THE LEGAL COUNSEL THAT WE SHOULD TREAT THIS AS A CLAIM AGAINST THE COUNTY, AND WE SHOULD EITHER BE PREPARED TO RESPOND OR RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.

ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD ASK THAT SOMEBODY CONFER.

AND IF THEY HAVE A CLAIM TO ASSERT, LET'S ASSERT IT AND LET THE PROCESS CONTINUE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO FOR YOU TODAY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

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ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE 46 AND 37 FORMS OF BASEBALL ISSUE.

AND, AND THE THEME IS TO BE AN AWESOME TOMORROW MORNING.

SO. OKAY. SO. YEAH. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS IT? WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE, 46. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT AFTERWARDS.

OKAY. THERE'S ANOTHER POINT OF ORDER. POINT OF PRIVILEGE 84.

[84. (David Smith) Discussion and appropriate action related to authorizing Bexar County to convey the property described as NCB 132, Lot 38 Fox Tech High School Subdivision, City of San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas to San Pedro Creek Development Authority, a Texas local government corporation, in accordance with Section 272.001(1) of the Texas Local Government Code, to ultimately be utilized for the construction of a multi-purpose recreation and civic facility for use by professional minor league baseball and other public purposes; and authorizing County Judge Sakai to execute necessary documents on behalf of Commissioners Court related to the conveyance once completed.]

I'M GOING TO GO. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, LET'S TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM 84 OUT OF THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS. DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED AUTHORIZING BEXAR COUNTY TO CONVEY THE PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS NCB 132, LOT 38, FOX TECH HIGH SCHOOL SUBDIVISION, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, TO SAN PEDRO CREEK DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AT TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 272 .01, SUBSECTION ONE OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, TO ULTIMATELY BE UTILIZED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MULTI-PURPOSE RECREATION AND CIVIC FACILITY FOR USE BY PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL AND OTHER PURPOSES, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONERS COURT TO THE CONVEYANCE ONCE COMPLETED.

MR. SMITH. LET'S TAKE UP THIS ISSUE. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE, ONE OF THE LAST PIECES OF THE BASEBALL STADIUM. IT IS SO PART OF THE DEAL, YOU'LL RECALL, INVOLVED, I BELIEVE, 2.3 ACRES OWNED BY SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. PART OF THE DEAL WAS THEY HAD TO CONVEY TO AN ENTITY THAT HAD CONDEMNATION POWER.

THAT IS US. THEY HAD CONVEYED THAT PROPERTY TO THE COUNTY.

WE NOW HAVE IT. THE NEXT STEP IS FOR THE COUNTY TO CONVEY IT TO THE SAN PEDRO CREEK DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM DOES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION. COMMISSIONER CALVERT SECOND.

SECOND. BY MR. CLAY-FLORES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE OF JUSTICE. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ IS AWARE OF AGENDA ITEM 84.

HEARING NONE. WE'LL LET HIM COME BACK OUT WHEN HE.

WHEN HE DOES. AT THIS TIME, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. LET US NOW, I BELIEVE, AND I NEED HELP FROM DAVID OR LARRY.

[4. TIME CERTAIN ITEM(S) (Part 3 of 3)]

WE'RE NOW GOING TO RECESS. THE TIME IS NOW 1230.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. LET ME READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.

AND NOW WE'RE BACK ON THE TIME CERTAIN FROM 11:00.

OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND MEET TO DISCUSS AND ACT UPON, IF APPROPRIATE, IN AN OPEN SESSION. ONE. ACCORDING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 551071 CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY FOR ADVICE REGARDING A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINE RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH CHAPTER 551 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, SPECIFICALLY ONE DISCUSSION APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO A PROPOSED ORDER BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ORDER AN ELECTION TO BE HELD IN BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025, ON THE QUESTION OF APPROVING AND IMPLEMENT A RESOLUTION DESIGNATED THE DEVELOPMENTS OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FREEMAN COLISEUM, FROST BANK CENTER, SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO FACILITIES, A NEW MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS AS VENUE PROJECTS.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 334, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 2551087.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING THE VENUE PROJECTS PROPOSED TO BE CONSIDERED AT A POSSIBLE ELECTION TO BE HELD IN BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025. AS AN ITEM CONTAINED IN THE MOU BY AND AMONG BEXAR COUNTY, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND SAN ANTONIO SPURS HOLDING EL.

SO AT THIS TIME THE COURT WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ASK THE COURT BE CLEARED. ALSO, KATE, I'M GIVING THE STAFF.

LET THEM START HAVING LUNCH AND THEN I PRESUME COURT WILL EAT LUNCH AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO OPEN COURT.

ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE NEED A BREAK RIGHT NOW, IF Y'ALL NEED A BREAK, TAKE A BREAK RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M ASKING THAT DAVID SMITH, MATTHEW POLANCO, MARSHA THOMAS I THINK, ALSO INVITED THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY HAVE THAT MAY BE PERTINENT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION.

LARRY ROBERSON I THINK ALSO TO AND JULIE PARTON ALSO COUNSEL.

SO WITH THAT, THE COURT IS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

RECESSION. OKAY. THE TIME IS 1:41 P.M.. THE COURT

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CONCLUDED THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN REGARDS TO THE TIME CERTAIN OF 11 A.M., WE WILL NOW TAKE UP.

ACCORDING TO. THAT FOUR F, RIGHT? YEAH. FOUR F DISCUSSION.

APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO A PROPOSED ORDER BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, ORDERING ELECTION TO BE HELD IN BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025. ON THE QUESTION OF APPROVING AND IMPLEMENTING A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING DEVELOPMENTS OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FREEMAN COLISEUM, FROST BANK CENTER, AND THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO FACILITIES, AND A NEW MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS AS VENUE PROJECT AND DESIGNATED THE METHOD OF FINANCING OF SUCH VENUES. NEWS PROJECTS PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 334 TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE MAKING PROVISIONS FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE ELECTION FOR THE CONDUCT OF A JOINT ELECTION, WITH VARIOUS POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS.

PROVIDING FOR OTHER MATTERS RELATED TO SUCH ELECTIONS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. SMITH, YOU HAVE A BRIEF POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

LET ME DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COURT.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A BRIEF UPDATE FOR FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN I KNOW YOU'LL ALL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE HAVING AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER OR NOT.

FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY REPORTED TO THE PUBLIC.

AND YOU, WE THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS TO HIRE EXPERTS TO HELP US IDENTIFY THE TEN YEAR FUNDING REQUIREMENTS TO CONTINUE TO OWN AND OPERATE THE FROST BANK CENTER.

THAT TEN YEAR COST WAS ORIGINALLY PEGGED AT 147 MILLION.

THE SECOND THING WE DID WAS ASKED OUR PARTNERS AT SALE AND CAP TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ACTIVATE THE ENTIRE FREEMAN GROUNDS, INCLUDING A NOW EMPTY FROST BANK CENTER, POTENTIALLY YEAR ROUND.

THEY CAME, I THINK, BACK IN MAY AND PRESENTED THAT PLAN TO YOU.

THEIR TOTAL PRICE TAG FOR THAT PLAN WAS 197 MILLION.

FINALLY, WE DID OUR OWN CAPACITY ANALYSIS WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS ASKING THE QUESTION, HOW MUCH COULD THIS VENUE TAX AT 2% AFFORD TO INVEST IN ANY NEW VENUES? AND THE ANSWER WE GAVE YOU BACK THEN WAS 448 MILLION.

ASSUMING A 2% HOT TAX INCREASE. AN INCREASE FROM 1.75 TO 2%.

AND FINALLY, THE QUESTION WAS RAISED. DO WE HAVE EXISTING CASH? THE ANSWER WAS YES. AT THE TIME IT WAS 164 MILLION IN THE VENUE FUND.

BUT MOST OF THAT WAS COMMITTED TO EITHER ONGOING PROJECTS OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO VARIOUS RESERVES.

THAT THE BONDHOLDERS REQUIRE US TO HAVE OR WILL REQUIRE US TO HAVE.

IF YOU ISSUE NEW DEBT THAT LEFT A TOTAL OF 48 MILLION.

WE HAVE CONTINUED TO REFINE THESE NUMBERS. AS TIME HAS GONE ON, AND I'LL GIVE YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SALE AND GROUNDS REDEVELOPMENT NUMBER OF 197.

AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS PRESENTATION, YOU'LL SEE 1.95.

AND YOU'RE SAYING I THOUGHT IT WAS 197. WELL, IT WAS, BUT I TOOK $4 MILLION OF THAT WAS SIMPLY REPLACING THE ROOF AT THE FREEMAN. IT WAS NOT A NEW FACILITY OF ANY KIND, WHEREAS THE REST OF THE 197 WAS NEW FACILITIES THAT WOULD PROVIDE NEW ACTIVATION FOR THE GROUNDS.

I FELT LIKE THAT ROOF WAS MORE AKIN TO THE FROST BANK CENTER CAPEX NEEDS, AND MOVED IT UP TO THAT BUCKET FOR CONSIDERATION PURPOSES.

SO THAT BROUGHT 197 DOWN TO 193. BUT THEN DEREK TOLD ME HE HAD SLIGHTLY MISSED THE NUMBER ON THE NEW BRIDGES AND CANOPIES. HE ADDED AT FIVE IT NEEDED TO BE SEVEN, SO WE ADDED TO 195.

THAT'S THE KIND OF WORK WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO.

SO WHERE ARE WE NOW? AFTER LEGAL REVIEW BY OUR LAWYERS, WE BELIEVE THE REVISED COUNTY OBLIGATION FOR TEN YEARS FOR THE FROST BANK CENTER IS NOW CLOSER TO 44.8 MILLION, AS OPPOSED TO THE 147 YOU SAW. THAT ASSUMES THAT THE SPURS ARE IN THAT BUILDING TILL THE END OF 2030.

IF IT'S LONGER, THAT NUMBER WILL GO DOWN EVEN MORE.

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NEW CAPACITY ESTIMATES. WE'VE CONTINUED TO REFINE THOSE ESTIMATES.

IN PARTICULAR, WE'VE HAD SALE AND CAB. WHEN WE INITIALLY CAME OUT, WE WERE ASSUMING LIKE THE SPURS, THEY WOULD WANT THEIR MONEY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

WELL, THEY'RE PHASING MEANS THAT THEY DON'T NEED THE BULK OF THEIR MONEY UNTIL 2028 AND THEN 2029, THAT EXTRA FIVE YEARS OR 4 OR 5. THAT EXTRA TIME ALLOWS GROWTH IN THE EXISTING VENUE TAX TO BUILD MORE CAPACITY.

SO THAT BRINGS THE NEW CAPACITY FROM 448 TO 503.

AND WHAT I JUST LAID OUT VERBALLY IS LISTED BELOW.

FINALLY, THE LAST THING WE WILL HAVE DONE IS TAB, THE 48 MILLION IN AVAILABLE VENUE FUND CASH, AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT TO PARTIALLY OFFSET THE AMOUNT SALE AND TAB NEED BEGINNING IN 2028.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE'LL CASH FUND THE FIRST 48 MILLION OF DRAWS THEY NEED.

SO THE RESULT, THE RESULT OF ALL THIS IS WE HAVE A CAPACITY OF 503.

THE FROST BANK CENTER NEEDS ARE NOW ESTIMATED AT 44.8.

SALE AND CAB. WHEN I USE THE 48 MILLION IN EXISTING CASH, THEY'RE NEEDED TO DRAW AGAINST THAT CAPACITY DROPS TO 147. THAT LEAVES 311 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR A NEW SPURS ARENA.

SO OUR FUNDING PROPOSAL IS STRUCTURED IN A VERY CAREFUL I THINK, WAY.

AND THIS HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE SPURS. AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY PROPOSES TO USE VENUE TAX FUNDING, SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL, TO FUND 25% OF THE COST OF A NEW SPURS ARENA, WITH A MAXIMUM NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 311. AND I GIVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES BELOW. IF THE NEW ARENA COMES IN AT $1 BILLION, THEY DON'T GET 311.

THEY GET 250. IF IT COMES IN AT 2 BILLION, THEY'D BE ABLE TO DRAW THE WHOLE 311 DOWN, BUT NOT A PENNY MORE, WHICH WOULD BE ONLY 15% OF THE COST. SO YOU HEARD MR. HOLT TODAY SAY WHAT HAS BEEN REPORTED WIDELY, THAT THE SPURS, THE TEAM IS WILLING TO PUT UP TO 500 MILLION IN TEAM FUNDS TOWARD A NEW ARENA. THE CITY AND THE SPURS ARE CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS TO FINALIZE WHAT THE CITY'S FUNDING CONTRIBUTION WILL BE.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, COUNCIL HAS TAKEN NO FORMAL ACTION REGARDING THAT CONTRIBUTION.

AND FINALLY, BEGINNING TODAY, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO DELIBERATE ON CALLING AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER FOR A VENUE TAX THAT PROPOSES TO INCREASE THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FROM 1.75% TO 2%.

PROVIDE FUNDS FOR THE FROST BANK CENTER CAPEX, AS WELL AS A NEW SALE, CAB INVESTMENTS AND POTENTIALLY COUNTY CONTRIBUTION FOR A NEW SPURS ARENA. THE ACTUAL DEADLINE TO CALL SUCH AN ELECTION IS AUGUST 18TH.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ THANK YOU JUDGE. DAVID, THANK YOU FOR BEING PRETTY SUCCINCT THERE.

LET ME ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK BOTH FOR MYSELF, BUT ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE WE HAD SOME A LOT OF FOLKS COME EARLIER THIS MORNING OR TODAY AND TESTIFY.

A LOT OF MENTIONS OF PROJECT MARVEL. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

THAT IS A CITY PROJECT. WE HAVE THE COUNTY HAS NO INVOLVEMENT IN PROJECT MARVEL.

I THINK THEY ROLL THAT OUT AS A BIGGER, AMBITIOUS PLAN.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE COUNTY VENUE TAX, A PORTION OF THAT GOING POTENTIALLY TO JUST A NEW ARENA IN DOWNTOWN. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S FROM THE COUNTY'S POINT OF VIEW, COINCIDENTAL THAT THE CITY HAS CHOSEN TO PUT THIS ARENA IN SOME BIGGER CONCEPT THAT WE HAD. AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO INPUT INTO AND WHERE HAVE GOTTEN.

I'VE LEARNED MORE FROM READING ABOUT PROJECT MARVEL IN THE PAPER THAN I HAVE DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY.

YEAH, WE HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN THE BIGGER PROJECT, AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT CLARIFYING QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK THE NARRATIVE SEEMS TO CONFLATE THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT PROJECT EITHER.

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AND OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THE, THE NEW ARENA.

BUT BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE JUDGE SERKIS LEADERSHIP, THE INITIAL PRIORITY HAS BEEN TAKING CARE OF COUNTY OWNED ASSETS, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE FROST BANK CENTER, THE FREEMAN, THE RODEO GROUNDS.

THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PRIORITY NUMBER ONE FOR US AS IT RELATES TO POTENTIAL USE OF THE VENUE TAX.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT WAS BASICALLY STRUCTURED AS PRIORITY ONE. TAKE CARE OF YOUR TWO, THE FREEMEN AND THE FROST BANK PRIORITY TO ENABLE SALE AND TO ACTIVATE THE FREEMAN GROUNDS. AND WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER CONTRIBUTING TO A NEW ARENA.

SO, SO SO IN THAT VEIN SHOULD THE COURT MOVE FORWARD TODAY OR BY AUGUST 18TH? THE PUBLIC, THE BEXAR COUNTY PUBLIC WOULD BE VOTING ON AUTHORIZING AUTHORIZING TWO SEPARATE PROPOSITIONS, A, A PROP A AND I'M GOING TO PARAPHRASE A PROP A WOULD BE FOR THE INCREASE, THE 1.75 TO 2% FOR USE OF THE FUNDS THAT UP TO ONE, I THINK IT WAS 195.

YOU SAID FOR THE EAST SIDE GROUNDS AS WELL AS FROST BANK.

FROST BANK. PROP B WOULD BE FOR THE 25%, UP TO 311 FOR THE NEW ARENA.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO VOTERS WOULD HAVE THE CHOICE OF VOTING ON BOTH OF THOSE.

ONE OF THEM. AND THAT'S HOW IT WOULD BE PRESENTED ESSENTIALLY, THOUGH, TO THE, THE VOTING PUBLIC.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO SO LET ME LET ME ASK, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALL COME TO A PLACE HERE WHERE YOU KNOW, EARLY ON IT SEEMED A LITTLE BIT COUNTERINTUITIVE FOR THE COUNTY TO PUT DOLLARS INTO AN ARENA THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY COMPETE WITH OUR COUNTY OWNED ASSET.

I THINK PART OF WHERE, AT LEAST I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COURT, BUT WHERE I'VE COME IS THAT THE SPURS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I'VE NEVER HEARD FROM THEM OR EITHER EXPLICITLY OR HINTED THAT THEIR DESIRE WAS TO LEAVE SAN ANTONIO.

I THINK THAT THEY THEIR PRIORITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO STAY, BUT TO BE PART OF THE REBIRTH OF OF A DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR THAT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RENAISSANCE OF DOWNTOWN.

BUT I ALSO THINK WE OUGHT TO DEAL IN REALITY, AND THAT IS THAT SPORTS ARE COMPETITIVE, AND THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER COMMUNITIES OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE SALIVATING TO HAVE OUR SPURS GO TO THEIR COMMUNITIES.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT BEEN PART OF THE CALCULATION.

THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'M SAYING IS IN THE BACK OF MY MIND.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO UNDERSCORE THAT THE THE I THINK THE OTHER THING TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT IS, AND YOU'VE MENTIONED IT A FEW TIMES IN YOUR PRESENTATION, AND THAT'S THE TERM SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL.

WE ARE ESSENTIALLY MOVING FORWARD, IF WE DO TODAY TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT, BUT BY NO MEANS OBLIGATE ANY DOLLARS TODAY.

IT ESSENTIALLY IS GOING TO BE UP TO THE VOTERS, AND THAT GIVES ME CONFIDENCE IN THE SENSE THAT THAT'S AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. AND IF FOLKS BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S OTHER MOVING PARTS.

THE CITY AND THE SPURS ARE STILL TALKING, BUT THIS WOULD BE OUR CONTRIBUTION TO MAKING SURE THAT THE SPURS ARE HERE HOPEFULLY FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

I KNOW THEY JUST CELEBRATED THEIR 50TH ANNIVERSARY, AND THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS IS OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP A SPURS FAN. BUT TAKING THAT AWAY AS A POLICYMAKER IS A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEAL, MUCH LIKE IF H-E-B CAME TO US OR FROST BANK OR USAA AND SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO GROW AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW WITH SAN ANTONIO, WE BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD PARTNERSHIP, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT FOR 25 YEARS THAT THE SPURS HAVE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS.

I THINK THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT WAYS, WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH TAX INCENTIVES OR SOME OTHER WAY, TO MAKE SURE THOSE COMPANIES GROW HERE AND FLOURISHED HERE.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY I SEE THIS. AND IN THIS CASE, WE ARE UTILIZING POTENTIALLY A SOURCE OF REVENUE THAT WAS DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY FOR A VENUE TYPE PROJECT, AND IT'S PAID FOR BY FOLKS WHO VISIT OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S NOT PAID BY GENERAL REVENUE FUNDS OR THE PROPERTY TAX OWNERS.

SO THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE, I THINK ARE MAKING A GOOD INVESTMENT.

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AND AGAIN, ULTIMATELY, IT'S UP TO THE VOTERS TO DECIDE.

SO I, I KNOW WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, BUT I DO WANT TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TODAY, JUDGE, AND LET ME READ IT SO IT'S COMPLIANT. THE MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE AN ORDER BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, ORDERING AN ELECTION TO BE HELD IN BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025.

ON THE QUESTION OF APPROVING AND IMPLEMENTING A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE DEVELOPMENT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO FREEMAN COLISEUM, FROST BANK CENTER, AND SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO FACILITIES, AND A NEW MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS AS VENUE PROJECTS AND DESIGNATING THE METHOD OF FINANCING OF SUCH VENUE PROJECTS.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 334 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, MAKING PROVISIONS FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE ELECTION AND FOR THE CONDUCT OF A JOINT ELECTION, WITH VARIOUS POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS PROVIDING FOR OTHER MATTERS RELATED TO SUCH ELECTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I HAVE A QUESTION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT JUST THIS WHOLE DAY AND THIS WHOLE PROCESS HAS TAKEN SO LONG BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY CITIZENS TO BE HEARD EARLIER, AND IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THEM ARE NOT HERE.

SO I WISH I COULD RESPOND TO SOME THINGS. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ TOUCHED ON SOME OF IT.

SO I'M GOING TO REITERATE SOME STUFF, BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES WE SAY THIS, THE MISINFORMATION IS OUT THERE THAT WE ARE USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THINGS WHERE WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT NEEDS. I AGREE. IF WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO USE VENUE OR HOT TAX, PERSONALLY, I PUT IT ALL IN MENTAL HEALTH KEEPING PEOPLE FROM RIDING IN JAIL, PREVENTIVE HEALTH, COLON CANCER AWARENESS STUFF.

THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT I FIGHT FOR THAT I WOULD RATHER HAVE MONEY PUT FOR.

BUT LEGALLY WE ARE THE COUNTY. WE ARE AN AGENT OF THE STATE AND LEGALLY BY STATE LAW.

VENUE HOT TAX HAS TO BE VOTED ON BY VOTERS. SO I'M SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE MY CONSTITUENTS GET TO GO VOTE AND DECIDE. AND WHEN THEY VOTE ON THIS, IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN VENUES, PERIOD.

WE CAN'T USE IT ON HOUSING. WE CAN'T USE IT ON MENTAL HEALTH AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE.

SO I JUST HOPE THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS AS A COMMUNITY AND THE MEDIA, THAT WE CAN PUT BETTER INFORMATION OUT THERE.

THIS WAS NOT STARTED BY US. BUT WE ARE HERE TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

SO THE WAY THAT I EXPLAIN THIS TO MY CONSTITUENTS IS IT'S LIKE THE COUNTY'S THE LANDLORD, AND WE HAVE THREE TENANTS THE FREEMEN, THE RODEO AND THE SPURS. SO WE NEED TO BE GOOD LANDLORDS AND FIRST TAKE CARE OF OUR ASSETS, WHICH IS WHICH ARE THE FREEMAN COLISEUM AND THE FROST BANK CENTER.

ALSO, BEING A PROUD SAN ANTONIO GIRL AND GROWING UP AS A SPURS FAN LIKE COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SPURS STAY HERE, AND THIS IS PART OF THE COMPETITIVE WORLD OF SPORTS AND NEW ARENAS AND TECHNOLOGY AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.

IDEALLY, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO JUST REMODEL LIKE A GOOD LANDLORD, REMODEL AN OLD BUILDING, BUT APPARENTLY THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE IT TO OUR VOTERS AND LET OUR VOTERS DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE SPURS A NEW ARENA SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP UP WITH THE NBA WORLD OF NEW ARENAS AND TECHNOLOGY.

ALSO, PART OF THE MISCOMMUNICATION IS THIS IS NOT PROJECT MARVEL.

WE AS A COUNTY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. NOW I GET IT.

SO PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT WHEN Y'ALL TALK TO US.

QUIT TALKING TO US ABOUT MARVEL AND CITY. WE ARE THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL, THANK YOU, JUDGE.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PARTICIPATION TODAY AND APPRECIATE SO MANY FRIENDS COMING OUT FROM THE RODEO AND THE SPURS.

RC BUFORD GOT BOBBY AND WALTER GOT CODY FROM THE RODEO.

HERE. AUDREY SOMEWHERE BACK THERE AS WELL. PHIL, SEE YOU HIDING OUT IN THE BACK.

SO MANY FRIENDS OF OF OUR COMMUNITY. BUT THIS IS A DIFFICULT ITEM.

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I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.

I SUPPORT THE RODEO. 100%. AND I SUPPORT OUR SPURS 100%.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR SPURS ORGANIZATION ON NORTH PARK, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A NEW COUNTY PARK IN THE VICINITY OF THE ROCK. IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.

LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING IT AS WE GO FORWARD.

BUT THIS DEAL, AS WRITTEN, CONTAINS A POISON PILL THAT I JUST CAN'T SWALLOW.

AND THAT'S THE TAX INCREASE OF $50 MILLION THAT'S INCLUDED IN IT.

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I'VE NEGOTIATED IN GOOD FAITH ON THIS ITEM.

I'VE TRIED TO MAKE IT BETTER ALONG THE WAY AND ADVOCATED FOR MY CONSTITUENTS AND FOR TAXPAYERS.

THIS THIS ITEM, THOUGH AS WRITTEN AGAIN, WAS NOT MY CHOICE AND I REALLY WANTED TO GET TO.

YES, I WANTED TO. TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WHERE I COULD SUPPORT IT.

AND I MADE THESE GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TOWARDS THAT END.

I AM GLAD TO SEE THE 25% CAP THAT'S INCLUDED, WHICH I OFFERED UP, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT.

I THINK IT KEEPS BALANCING THE DEAL AND IT PROTECTS BEXAR COUNTY TAXPAYERS.

AND THERE ARE REAL ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO BOTH THESE PROJECTS.

OBVIOUSLY, THE EXPANSION OF THE RODEO GROUNDS AND ENSURING THAT OUR SPURS STAY IN SAN ANTONIO FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

AS MY COLLEAGUES HIGHLIGHTED, WE SHOULDN'T LOOK PAST THAT, RIGHT? I WILL SAY, FOR THE RECORD, I THINK SOME OF THE THE PROJECTIONS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN REPORTED IN THE MEDIA ARE EXTREMELY ROSY.

BUT THERE ARE REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS AND VALUE IN BOTH THESE PROJECTS.

BUT AGAIN, THIS BALLOT PROPOSITION INCORPORATES THIS TAX HIKE.

AND IT'S JUST A BRIDGE TOO FAR. SO LAST TWO POINTS I'LL MAKE HERE.

THE TIMING OF THIS IS ALSO PROBLEMATIC. WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IN THIS COURT THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE A COMMITMENT NOT ONLY FROM THE SPURS, BUT FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BEFORE MAKING A DECISION TO PUT ANYTHING ON THE BALLOT.

OBVIOUSLY, WE SIT HERE TODAY AND WE DO NOT HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ON THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THE SPURS ARENA.

I FIND THAT PROBLEMATIC, MAKING A COMMITMENT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT WITHOUT AN ENTIRE OR COMPLETE STRUCTURE IN PLACE.

BUT I DO SUPPORT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR VOTERS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ITEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THEY WILL MAKE THEIR DECISION IN NOVEMBER.

BUT I JUST CAN'T ENDORSE THE $50 MILLION TAX INCREASE IN THIS BALLOT PROPOSITION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CALVERT. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME TO SPEAK TODAY.

AND JUST KNOW FROM MY VANTAGE POINT, I HEAR EVERYBODY.

I'VE HEARD YOU ALL. WE HAVE BEGUN AN INITIAL MEETING.

A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT MEETING WITH THE RODEO WITH THE COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD.

THE SPURS WERE NOT PRESENT AT THAT TIME, BUT I ANTICIPATE THAT THEY WILL BE IN FUTURE CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK ALL OF THE PARTIES UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS FOR ELECTORAL SUCCESS.

I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE WISDOM OF CHOOSING AN OFF YEAR NOVEMBER ELECTION ON THE CUSP OF A RECESSION, AND I HAVE MADE THOSE CLEAR TO THE CHAIR OF THE COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD AND THIS COURT.

BUT THIS IS THE PATH FREE WILL HAS CHOSEN, AND I WILL TAKE THE POLICY SUGGESTIONS AND THOSE WHO MADE THEM TO THE DISCUSSIONS OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS OF THIS VOTE FOR EVERY VOTER.

AS SOMEONE WHO HAS ALWAYS BELIEVED, PEOPLE WILL MAKE THE BEST CHOICES FOR THEMSELVES EVENTUALLY, AND I SAY EVENTUALLY BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT ALWAYS MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE INITIALLY, BUT OVER TIME AND THE COURSE OF UNDERSTANDING, THEY DO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES. HERE WE ARE. ONWARD TO AN ELECTION.

THANK YOU JUDGE. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION OR COMMUNICATION WITH THE COURT? YES, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, I'LL YIELD BACK TO YOU.

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I JUST HAVE TO REITERATE, I DIDN'T SAY THIS WHEN I SAID IT EARLIER.

THIS IS NOT A TAX INCREASE. THAT'S PART OF THE MISINFORMATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO COME INTO TOWN AND STAY IN A HOTEL AND RENT A CAR.

SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT I DON'T RENT CARS HERE AND I DON'T STAY IN HOTELS.

SO THIS IS A TOURIST, A TAX ON TOURISTS, ON VISITORS WHO COME.

THIS IS NOT A TAX INCREASE. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I'LL CLOSE WITH MY COMMENTS. LET ME GO ON RECORD AND BE CRYSTAL CLEAR AS THE COUNTY JUDGE OF THIS WONDERFUL COUNTY. YOU HEARD ME EARLY THIS MORNING WITH BISHOP PFEIFER.

AND RABBI NATHAN ASKED THAT THEY WOULD INCLUDE BEXAR COUNTY AND THE PRAYERS SO THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. I HOPE AFTER TODAY THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION, THAT NO MATTER WHAT DECISION IS MADE TODAY, THAT WE WILL COME BACK AS A COMMUNITY, ALTHOUGH WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE AND WE MAY HAVE VERY SERIOUS DISAGREEMENT, WHAT ACTION IS BEING TAKEN TODAY? BUT LET ME SAY THIS. LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR THE MEDIA.

SINCE WE FIRST LEARNED OF THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SPURS ABOUT A POSSIBLE MOVE DOWNTOWN IN 2023.

THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR AS COUNTY JUDGE. I HAD NO IDEA THAT I WOULD, IN MY FIRST TERM, HAVE THIS ISSUE YOU ON THE TABLE. BUT THAT'S WHAT I SIGNED UP AND RUNNING FOR.

COUNTY JUDGE. THIS COURT AND COUNTY STAFF HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY.

AND I WANT TO APPLAUD DAVID SMITH AND HIS STAFF.

AND IN THE LIMITED TIME FRAME TO STEER THIS PERIOD A TREMENDOUS GROWTH TOWARD AN OUTCOME THAT BEST SERVES OUR COMMUNITY. WE SAID NO DEAL WITHOUT A PLAN FOR THE COUNTY COLISEUM COMPLEX, THE FROST BANK CENTER, AND THE FREEMAN. WE SAID NO HOMEOWNER, PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION, SUBSTANTIAL PRIVATE EQUITY BY THE SPURS, AND A JOINT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OF A NEW PROPOSED ARENA.

AND WE SAID CLEARLY, AND I ARTICULATED WE ARE PRIORITIZING THE EAST SIDE REDEVELOPMENT WITH OUR INVESTMENTS IN PLANNING WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE COLISEUM, ADVISORY BOARD LED, AND I WANT TO THANK DERRICK HOWARD AND HIS BOARD FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP.

THE RODEO CODY DAVENPORT, HIS BOARD AND HIS TREMENDOUS CADRE OF VOLUNTEERS THAT PUT ON ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RODEOS IN THIS COUNTRY, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE SPURS HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES SINCE 2023.

YET IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, DESPITE TREMENDOUS PRESSURES, I MADE IT CLEAR THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MAY ELECTION, THE CITY ELECTIONS. SINCE THEN, WE HAVE COMMITTED AND I WANT TO REMIND BOTH THE COUNTY, THE CITY AND THE SPURS THAT WE AGREED TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH WITH A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

AND WE WORKED WITH THE COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE WORKED WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF SAN ANTONIO'S BECAUSE THEY ARE VALUABLE PARTNERS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS DISCUSSION TODAY. NOW WE HAVE A PLAN TO REDEVELOP THE COLISEUM COMPLEX AND MAINTAIN FROST BANK CENTER AND THE FREEMAN.

THE COLISEUM AND RODEO TEAMS HAVE TOP NOTCH LEADERS.

THEY ENGAGED IN WORLD CLASS VENUE AND EVENTS CONSULTANTS TO FORM A PLAN TO REDEVELOP AND ACTIVATE THE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS YEAR ROUND. A SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS PLAN FOR OUR COUNTY FACILITIES, DRAWING COMMUNITY COMMERCE AND ACTIVITY TO THE EAST SIDE. AND YOU HEARD THAT TODAY WITH SOME OF THE SUPPORT, BECAUSE OF WHAT THE RODEO HAS DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND ESTABLISHING ACCESSIBLE COMMUNITY AMENITIES. THIS MEETS OUR FIDUCIARY DUTY TO PROTECT THESE COUNTY FACILITIES AND

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TAXPAYER INVESTMENTS OVER THE LONG TERM. SO WE ARE NOW IN A POSITION TO SET A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE FOR THE EAST SIDE WITH THE RENOVATED COLISEUM GROUNDS AND FACILITIES.

SO LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE.

THIS IS JUST THE START OF WHAT WE CAN DO. AND SKY'S THE LIMIT FOR THE EAST SIDE.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELIVERED MANY YEARS AGO BUT YET HAS YET TO BE DONE.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WANTS ALL THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THAT IS MY PROMISE AND COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO COMMIT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF EAST SIDE.

THIS IS JUST A START. THIS IS THE FOUNDATIONAL PIECE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO THINK BIG FOR THE EAST SIDE AND THAT AREA AROUND THE FROST, FREEMAN AND COLISEUM GROUNDS. THIS ALSO MEETS OUR COMMITMENTS.

NO HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAXES. WE'RE LOOKING EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THE VENUE TAX, A TOURIST TAX FROM HOTEL ROOMS AND VEHICLE RENTALS. I AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MOODY.

THE PROPOSED HOT TAX FROM 1.75% TO 2%, IS CRUCIAL TO KEEP BEXAR COUNTY COMPETITIVE IN THE LONG HAUL.

WE WILL HAVE FUTURE VENUE PROJECTS, AND THAT IS THE DISCUSSION THAT THIS COURT WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE.

WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO WITH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES PUT OUT? WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO MORE FOR THIS COMMUNITY WITH THIS PARTICULAR VENUE TAX.

AND WHY CAN'T WE? AND WHY SHOULDN'T WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A 0.25% ON THE TOURIST TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED US TO DO? JUDGE, YOU GOT A LOT OF THINGS WE WANT. WELL, NOTHING COMES FREE.

GUYS, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO GROW. IF THAT. AND I'LL MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, IF WE DON'T GROW, THEN THE STATUS QUO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR A GROWING COMMUNITY SUCH AS BEXAR COUNTY.

IN JANUARY, WE MADE IT CLEAR THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MAY ELECTION, AND THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION WITH PARTNERS.

QUITE FRANKLY, THE SPURS, THEY'RE HERE IN THE ROOM.

THEY PUSHED ME HARD. THEY WANTED A MAY ELECTION.

I SAID, NO WAY. SORRY, BUT THE COURT BACKED ME UP AT THAT TIME.

SINCE THEN, WE SET OUT AN MOU WITH THE CITY AND THE SPURS TO ESTABLISH A MUTUAL EXPLORATION AND PURSUANT TO OUR COLISEUM REDEVELOPMENT AND NEW DOWNTOWN ARENA. WE NOW HAVE LAID OUT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS, AS HAVE THE SPURS.

WE HEARD FROM PETER JOHN HOLT THIS MORNING. $500 MILLION IN DIRECT ARENA COST ANOTHER 500 MILLION IN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION THROUGH THE TERS, THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, WHICH IS THE SAME MECHANISM THAT WE USED TO SUPPORT AND NOW ARE SET OUT FOR NEW BASEBALL STADIUM DOWNTOWN AND A PROPOSED COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT UPWARDS OF $30 MILLION, WHICH IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SPURS AND THE CITY.

AND I'VE TOLD THE SPURS WE STILL NEED TO FULFILL A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN, SO I'LL BE BACK TO YOU, SPURS. THE CITY HAS LAID OUT A SOLID FUNDING FRAMEWORK AND FUNDING MECHANISMS. CITY MANAGER ERIK WALSH SAYS THEY'RE IN THE RANGE OF 450 TO 500 MILLION.

WHILE THEY HAVE YET TO TAKE FORMAL ACTION. I BELIEVE ACCORDING TO THE NEGOTIATIONS AND THE CONVERSATIONS, THAT THEY ARE EDGING TOWARD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SPURS, AND I WILL TAKE THE GOOD FAITH OF THE SPURS AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THAT THEY WILL HAVE A DEAL AND THROUGH TOWN HALLS.

AND I WANT TO APPLAUD COMMISSIONER CALVERT AND HIS TOWN HALL MEETINGS.

AGAIN, YOU HEARD THEY HAVE THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE DEAL, SO TO SPEAK.

THEY HAVE NEEDS, AND THEY'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THEY FEEL THAT THE PROMISES TO THE EAST SIDE HAVE NOT BEEN MET.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I BELIEVE TODAY IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS MAKING THAT COMMITMENT.

I WANT TO APPLAUD MY CO-CHAIR WITH THE EASTSIDE ADVISORY COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVE BARBARA HOPKINS, WHO I THINK IS TIED UP MAYBE OUT OF STATE AT THIS TIME, AND THE MANY DIRECT STAKEHOLDERS MEETINGS.

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WE'VE RECEIVED SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC INPUT AND HAVE MADE IT CLEAR TO THE EASTSIDE COUNCIL THAT WE'RE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MEET SO THAT WE FULFILL THE PROMISES THAT WERE MADE TO THE EAST SIDE.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A COMPELLING CASE THAT ESTABLISHING A NEW DOWNTOWN ARENA WILL EXPAND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IN A WAY THAT WILL BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I GIVE RESPECT TO THOSE THAT DISAGREE, BUT CAN'T WE AGREE TO DISAGREE AND HOPEFULLY MAKE A DECISION IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE THAT REDEVELOPING THE EAST SIDE FACILITIES AND IMPROVING THE ABILITY, THE RODEO AND THE COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD TO PROGRAM YEAR ROUND, WILL SET A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EAST SIDE.

AS WE PREPARE TO TAKE THIS MOMENTOUS STEP. WITH THE VOTE WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE.

IT IS THE EXPECTATION OF THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL ACT DECISIVELY IN RESOLVING THE NEGOTIATIONS AND MOVING FOR A FINAL DEAL SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND.

BUT YOU ALSO HAVE HEARD THE COMMENTS. THE COUNTY IS NOT CONNECTED WITH PROJECT MARVEL.

THIS REFERENDUM IS VERY SPECIFIC. IT IS BEING DONE IN ORDER TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

AND IT IS TWO STEPS. CAN WE COMMIT THE COUNTY VENUE TAX TO THE COUNTY FACILITIES? FROST BANK CENTER. FREEMAN COLISEUM. THE COLISEUM GROUNDS AND WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER WITH THE CAP.

CAN WE HELP THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS? I AM COMMITTED TO KEEP THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, BEXAR COUNTY. MAY I ALSO SUGGEST THAT ALTHOUGH THE WORD PROJECT MARVEL, AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS TRANSACTION, THIS VOTE TODAY IS NOT IN ANY WAY WHETHER WE APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE PROJECT MARVEL.

WHAT I AM SUBMITTING TO YOU, THE PUBLIC, TO THE VOTERS, AND TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COURT IS TO SUPPORT, QUOTE, AN ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION OF THE DOWNTOWN AND EASTSIDE WITH A JOINT CITY COUNTY PROJECT.

AND CAN WE JOIN WITH THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS, A GREAT CORPORATE CITIZEN ORGANIZATION THAT GIVES BACK MUCH TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND I GIVE THEM VALUE AND CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY DO AS A TEAM, WHAT THEY DO INDIVIDUALLY THROUGH THEIR PLAYERS, THROUGH COACH POP, THROUGH PETER, JOHN HOLT AND THE ADMINISTRATION, R.C.

BUFORD, BOBBY PETTIS. I THANK THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS YOU'VE MADE YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT.

BUT I'LL ALSO TELL THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS WE STILL GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, AND WE STILL HAVE MUCH MORE TO DO.

AND I EXPECT Y'ALL TO KEEP UP THAT PHILANTHROPIC CONTRIBUTION.

SO TODAY, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, YOU HAVE MOVED.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I INTEND TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE.

I WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

YES. COMMISSIONER JUSTIN RODRIGUEZ, HIGH COMMISSIONER GRANT MOODY.

NO. COMMISSIONER TOMMY CALVERT, COUNTY JUDGE.

VOTES A MOTION IS APPROVED. THIS CONCLUDES THIS ACTION ITEM.

WE WILL NOW GO ON TO REFRESH MY MEMORY HERE. WE'RE GOING.

OKAY. WE HAVE A TIME SURGEON. SO LET ME TEE UP TIME CERTAIN 130 WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION DISCUSSION APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSION OF THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY'S NEXT GENERATION FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM.

MR.. DAVID SMITH, I THINK SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, WELCOME TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

VERY LITTLE. WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE LATE HERE. SO DAVID SMITH STARTED OFF.

SO YOU GUYS JUST TOOK AN IMPORTANT ACTION. BUT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.

THE VOTE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO TAKE ON THIS IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.

SO CONCUR. AFTER THE BATTLE CREEK EVENTS RECENTLY, THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE ASKED THE RIVER AUTHORITY TO PREPARE A POST-EVENT REPORT ON WHAT THEY BELIEVE HAPPENED WHEN I READ THE REPORT.

I WAS STRUCK BY THE LEVEL OF MODELING THEY WERE CAPABLE OF DOING ON THAT CREEK WAY.

SO I ASKED DEREK FOR A MEETING AND SAID, DEREK, CAN WE DO IT THIS SAME LEVEL OF MODELING ON ALL OUR CREEK WAYS.

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AND HE SAID, NOT ONLY CAN WE, BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT.

AND IN FACT, I THINK HE'S MORE THAN HALF THE WAY THERE.

SO THEN I ASKED THE NEXT QUESTION, WHICH WAS, IF WE HAVE PREDICTIVE MODELS IN PLACE, WHY CAN'T WE PUT IN A SET OF PREDICTIONS THAT SAYS, I'LL USE YOUR COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER MOODY? YOUR PRECINCT. YOU PUT AN INCH OF RAIN PER HOUR FOR THREE HOURS OVER HELOTES CREEK.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? TWO INCHES PER HOUR FOR THREE HOURS.

THREE INCHES. FOUR INCHES. HAVE THAT SITTING ON A SHELF COUNTYWIDE.

OR BETTER YET, PLUGGED INTO SOME AUTOMATED SYSTEM.

DEREK ALREADY HAS METEOROLOGIST ON STANDBY FOR THESE EVENTS.

SO IF YOU COULD PUT THAT MODELING IN PLACE WITH THE APPROPRIATE TECHNOLOGY NEAR REAL TIME RAIN GAUGE SENSORS FEEDING THAT DATA INTO A MODEL THAT ALREADY EXISTS, WHY COULDN'T WE PROACTIVELY INSTRUCT PEOPLE TO SHUT DOWN THE LOW WATER CROSSINGS BEFORE THE FLOODING EVER HAPPENS? AND HE SAID, YES, WE CAN DO IT IN A WEEK LATER.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT MONEY WITH HIM, SO I WANT TO THANK DERRICK AND HIS TEAM FOR RESPONDING SO QUICKLY.

HE'S CALLING IT THE NEXT GENERATION FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM.

WHAT I THINK IT DOES IS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A GAME CHANGER LOCALLY AND TO TURN FIRST RESPONDERS INTO PRE RESPONDERS.

WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER THERE. THANK YOU DAVID.

GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I'M DEREK BASS, GENERAL MANAGER AND CEO OF THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY.

AND I'M ALSO THE CHAIRMAN OF REGION 12, THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING GROUP THAT WAS STOOD UP BY THE STATE IN THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE HARVEY.

STEVE METZLER IS WITH ME. HE IS OUR DIRECTOR OF WATER RESOURCES AND OUR TECHNICAL, ONE OF OUR TECHNICAL EXPERTS.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR CHAIRMAN, MR. JIM CAMPBELL OF THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY BOARD.

SHOULD I USE THIS FOR THE CLICKER? OKAY, SO JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LEAD SAN ANTONIO TO HAVE THE FLOODING CHALLENGES THAT IT DOES.

YOU KNOW, WE SIT AT THE BASE OF THE BALCONIES ESCARPMENT.

YOU HAVE A UNIQUE INTERSECTION OF WESTERN AND COASTAL PLAINS.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF UNPREDICTABLE WEATHER. YOU HAVE A RAPID ELEVATION CHANGE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY OVER 800FT IN ELEVATION CHANGE IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

AND THEN THE GROUND UNDERNEATH IMPERVIOUS LIMESTONE, A LOT OF EROSIVE SOILS AND VERY STEEP SLOPES IN PLACES.

ALL OF WHICH LEADS TO A COMBINATION THAT MAKES US, YOU KNOW, IN PRIME LOCATION AND FLASH FLOOD ALLEY AND HAS LED TO A NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC EVENTS OVER THE YEARS.

BUT WHILE WE'RE HERE TODAY, AS DAVID DESCRIBED, AND I APPRECIATE HIS COMMENTS ABOUT MY TEAM, WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY SMART PEOPLE FAR SMARTER THAN I AM.

I WILL SAY THE METEOROLOGIST HE REFERRED TO IS NOT ONLY A METEOROLOGIST, BUT ALSO A PROFESSIONAL LICENSE ENGINEER, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MORE UNIQUE COMBINATIONS I'VE COME ACROSS IN MY CAREER.

BUT IT'S FOLKS LIKE THAT THAT REALLY GIVE US A CHANCE TO GET AHEAD OF THESE SORT OF THINGS.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE COUNTY INVESTMENT, BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE DEVELOPMENT CHANGES POPULATION.

THE GROWTH THAT THE REGION HAS SEEN IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS CERTAINLY ADDS TO THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE.

TECHNOLOGY CHANGES. JUST THE EVENT OF AI ITSELF HAS LED TO A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE THINK IT'S TIME TO REEVALUATE HOW OUR MODELS AND OUR PREDICTIVE FLOOD MODELS WORK. AND ALSO WEATHER CHANGES. WE SEE MORE UNPREDICTABLE EVENTS.

WE SEE MORE SEVERE EVENTS THAT ARE OFTENTIMES VERY LOCALIZED.

LIKE WE SAW WITH THE UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT ON BRIDAL CREEK IN JUNE WHERE 13 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES.

SO THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN OUR REGION.

I WILL SAY TWO THERE ARE. NOT ONLY THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER RUNS THROUGH BEXAR COUNTY, BUT YOU HAVE FIVE MAJOR CREEKS, AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, COUNTLESS NUMBER OF SMALLER CREEKS AND WATERWAYS THAT AS THE WATER FLOWS, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTES TO THE RISK TO BOTH PEOPLE'S LIVES AND PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

BRIEF HISTORY. SO THE REGIONAL WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PARTNERSHIP, OR THE BRM, WAS FORMED BACK IN 2002.

IT STARTED WITH A RESPONSE TO THE FLOODS OF 1998, AND THEN BROUGHT TOGETHER AGAIN BY FLOODING IN THE EARLY 2000.

WHAT WHAT IT IS NOW IS A VIRTUAL FLOOD DISTRICT, WHICH HAS 22 PUBLIC ENTITIES WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY,

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THE LEADERS OF WHICH ARE BEXAR COUNTY, THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

SINCE 2002, WE HAVE WE COLLECTIVELY HAVE INVESTED OVER $2 BILLION IN FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS.

THAT IS THE COUNTY BOND ON PROGRAMS. THAT IS CITY BOND.

THAT IS RIVER AUTHORITY, TECHNOLOGY AND DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, ANNUAL SMALLER PROJECTS THAT DON'T MEET THE BOND, BUT $2 BILLION. BUT WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, TIMES CHANGE AND WE BELIEVE IT IS ALSO TIME TO CONTINUE THAT INVESTMENT AND USE ALL THESE REASONS TO TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

THIS IS JUST A QUICK SNAPSHOT, BUT THIS BARE REGIONAL WATERSHED MANAGEMENT WE HAVE WE RUN A FLOOD SITE, OUR WEBSITE CALLED BEXARFLOOD.ORG. IT CURRENTLY PULLS IN GAGE DATA FROM THE COUNTY GAGE NETWORK, THE CITY GAGE NETWORK RIVER AUTHORITY, GAGE NETWORK AND OTHERS.

THERE'S A FLOODPLAIN VIEWER. THERE'S A WATERSHED MASTER PLAN VIEWER.

BUT THIS DATA IS ALSO USED CURRENTLY TO HELP POPULATE THINGS LIKE WAZE AND GOOGLE MAPS.

AND WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH APPLE RIGHT NOW.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS WHAT IS THAT ROADMAP TO THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE? WHEN DAVID AND I MET TWO WEEKS AGO. MAN, IT FEELS IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CHALLENGED EACH OTHER TO REALLY SAY, WHAT DOES THE BEST IN CLASS SYSTEM LOOK LIKE? HOW DO WE PROGRESS THE SAFETY AND THE SECURITY OF OUR COMMUNITY? I WILL HIGHLIGHT YOU CAN NEVER ELIMINATE RISK.

ANYBODY WHO WORKS IN THE FLOOD FLOOD WORLD WILL TELL YOU THAT.

BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP REDUCE AND MITIGATE IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO THE COURT ABOUT TODAY.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE MULTIPLE THINGS. SOME OF THOSE WE BELIEVE WE CAN START IMMEDIATELY OR IN THE VERY NEAR TERM NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SOME WILL TAKE PROBABLY A YEAR. OTHERS WILL TAKE LONGER THAN THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

BUT YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. AND SO THE GOALS OF THIS MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE WATER RESCUES AT LOW WATER CROSSINGS, THINGS IMPROVE OUR TECHNOLOGY AGAIN? I MEAN, THINGS CHANGE SO RAPIDLY IN THE TECHNOLOGICAL WORLD.

WE THINK WE CAN DO A LOT MORE. WE UPDATED OUR PREDICTIVE FLOOD MODEL, WHAT WE CALL PREDICTIVE FLOOD 2.0 ROUGHLY FOUR YEARS AGO WAS WHEN WE ROLLED THAT OUT.

BUT A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN. GET MORE STRUCTURES OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, IN THE FLOODWAY, AND ABOVE ALL, MAKE EVERYTHING MORE RESILIENT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO EVENTS AS FUTURE WEATHER CONDITIONS CHANGE.

SO THIS MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH, THE FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM, IS THE PRIMARY REASON THAT I'M HERE TODAY SPEAKING TO THE COURT.

BUT IT ALSO MEANS FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE. THOSE ARE THOSE BIG PROJECTS THAT PEOPLE OFTEN ASSOCIATE WITH BOND PROGRAMS. THOSE ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNICATIONS AND ADVOCACY.

I THINK IT'S OFTENTIMES EASY TO FORGET ABOUT THAT, BUT MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS AND IS CONSTANTLY REMINDED.

WHAT WE OFTEN SEE FOLLOWING A MAJOR DISASTER, WHETHER THAT'S HERE, NEW ORLEANS, WHERE I CAME FROM PREVIOUSLY, OR ANYWHERE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT MEMORIES FADE AND COMPLACENCY STARTS TO SET IN.

AND SO WE BELIEVE IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ANY SORT OF PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RISKS AND THE DANGERS THAT REMAIN STAY IN THE FOREFRONT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS.

AND THEN FINALLY, WITH WHATEVER SYSTEM THAT WE BUILD, THE COUNTY BUILDS.

ANYONE WHO'S IN THIS TAKES ON YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT, AND YOU GOT TO KEEP IT UP AND RUNNING.

SO SINCE DAVID AND I HAD THAT DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WORKING WITH ART AND THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC WORKS TEAM INPUT FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE CAME UP WITH COST ESTIMATES FOR WHAT WE THINK WE NEED FOR THE REGION TO GET A MUCH MORE IMPROVED FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM.

AND WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE TOP TWO LINES ARE ROUGHLY $22 MILLION.

THAT'S THE BEXAR COUNTY SYSTEM, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SYSTEM.

THERE'S ANOTHER, WE ESTIMATE 32, ALMOST $33 MILLION WORTH OF NEEDS.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE ARE NOT IN BEXAR COUNTY.

THOSE WOULD BE IN OUR JURISDICTION, WHICH GOES DOWNSTREAM TO WILSON, KARNES AND GOLIAD.

BUT ALSO WE WOULD LOOK TO EXPAND THE NETWORK AND THE FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM AND THE FOUR COUNTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT.

GENERALLY ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF BEXAR COUNTY, BECAUSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, GOING BACK.

THE WATERSHED ON THE RIGHT IS FAR BIGGER THAN MY JURISDICTION.

IT'S FAR BIGGER THAN BEXAR COUNTY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CREEKS AND RIVERS THAT FLOW INTO OUR JURISDICTION.

THIS IS A CLICHE, BUT I THINK IT'S OFTEN IMPORTANT TO REPEAT IS THAT WATER DOES NOT CARE ABOUT POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.

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SO A TOTAL RIGHT NOW IS OUR ESTIMATE OF ROUGHLY $55 MILLION.

WE'VE SENT THAT FORWARD TO THE LEGISLATURE. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AND WHAT THEY WILL FOCUS ON.

BUT I THINK WE CAN TAKE ACTION WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY TODAY TO REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO BE, YOU KNOW, STAND ON OUR OWN AND MOVE THIS SYSTEM FORWARD.

I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AS I GO ALONG OR AT THE END.

STEVE METZLER HERE CAN HELP ANSWER SOME OF THE MORE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BUT A LITTLE OVER $10 MILLION CURRENTLY ESTIMATED.

WHAT YOU SEE IS LOW WATER AND ESSENTIALLY AN IMPROVEMENT IN GAUGES IN THE TYPE OF GAUGES, THE QUANTITY OF GAUGES THE SCALE SYSTEM OR THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM THAT TAKES IN ALL OF THIS DATA AND HELPS PROCESS IT AND SEND IT TO THE APPROPRIATE PLACE, WHETHER IT'S OUR PREDICTIVE FLOOD SYSTEM OR THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

A BIG CHUNK OF THIS IS LOW WATER CROSSING GATES YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY ALMOST JUST UNDER $5 MILLION OF THAT, WHICH ARE ALSO AN IMPORTANT PART. THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET TO MITIGATING FLOOD PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE GAUGES AND THERE ARE WARNINGS.

THERE ARE GATES, THERE'S BETTER SOFTWARE, THERE'S COMMUNICATION.

NONE OF IT CAN DO IT, DO IT BY ITSELF. IT TAKES A COMBINATION OF THESE TYPES OF EFFORTS AND THEN ALSO UPGRADING OUR SOFTWARE, WHICH HELPS, WE BELIEVE WILL HELP GET THE SYSTEM, TAKE THAT GAUGE NETWORK, RUN IT FASTER, RUN IT BETTER, AND LOOK TO FOR THAT MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT DAVID REFERRED TO.

ARE VERY SIMILAR. THESE ARE THE NEEDS WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

ALSO SAME THING GAUGES IMPROVING THE PROGRAMING, MORE GAUGES AND THEN A LOT OF LOW WATER CROSSING GATES AND WARNING SYSTEMS. ALMOST TWO THIRDS ROUGHLY OF THEIR NEEDS SIT WITH THE LOW WATER CROSSING GATES.

AND JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE. SO THIS ROADMAP, THE FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW BOTH IN THE GAUGE NETWORK AND OUR OWN COMPUTER SOFTWARE NETWORK WE HAVE PROPRIETARY TECHNOLOGY.

THAT'S WHAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT.

WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE FASTER AND MORE EFFICIENT AND IN THE LONG RUN, ACTUALLY PROBABLY CHEAPER TO GET AWAY FROM PROPRIETARY AND BE ABLE TO USE THINGS THAT ARE MORE READILY AVAILABLE, EXPAND AND IMPROVE ON THAT SYSTEM OF SENSORS AND PROACTIVE ALERTS.

IT GETS IT BOILS DOWN TO TIME, BECAUSE THE FASTER THAT A GAUGE CAN READ SOMETHING AND GET IT TO OUR SYSTEM, WE CAN FEED IT TO THE EOC, WE CAN FEED IT TO OUR PREDICTIVE FLOOD.

AND THAT SHORTENS THE TIME FOR FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET OUT THERE AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO GET OUT THERE AND BLOCK ROADS IF NECESSARY.

BUT TIME BECOMES IS VERY, VERY CRITICAL. AND THEN UPDATE THAT PREDICTIVE FLOOD MODEL, WHICH IS AN ONGOING PROCESS, BUT WE THINK WE CAN TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL WITH THE COUNTY SUPPORT.

SO IMMEDIATE, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING, ALL THOSE GAUGES ARE WORKING, AND ALSO DO SOME REPROGRAMING TO GET GAUGE ALERT THRESHOLDS THAT HAVE ADDITIONAL WARNING LEVELS THAT WILL HELP FEED MORE INFORMATION. THAT'S PROBABLY 3 TO 6 MONTHS BALLPARK AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS.

AND WE ARE I SHOULD EMPHASIZE, WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH COSTS.

WE THINK WE CAN REFINE THOSE AS WE GO, AND THAT WILL HELP DRIVE A BETTER TIMELINE THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO THE COURT AND DISCUSS ONCE WE'VE GOT A HANDLE, A BETTER HANDLE ON IT. BUT OUR CURRENT ESTIMATE IS PROBABLY 3 TO 6 MONTHS.

SHORT TERM STANDARDIZE THAT PROGRAMABLE EQUIPMENT.

GET MANUALLY LOW WATER CROSSING GATES OUT. YOU KNOW IF THE IDEAL THE END STATE WHEN IT COMES TO A LOW WATER CROSSING GATE IS THAT IT'S AUTOMATED, THAT THERE'S A TRIGGER FROM A LIKE A RAIN GAUGE OR A STREAM GAUGE THAT WILL IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY CLOSE.

BUT IN THE INTERIM, WORK TOWARDS GETTING GATES IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACES THAT A CREW CAN GO OUT AND CLOSE BY HAND.

SINGLE COMMAND CENTER, SINGLE NODE SO IT CAN BE EASILY SHARED WITH ALL PARTNERS THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE SUBURBAN CITIES THAT WE WORK WITH, NEIGHBORING COUNTIES UP TO THE STATE, WHEREVER IT NEEDS TO GO.

THAT'S THE END STATE. AND THEN GET OUR NEW SOFTWARE, OUR NEW PREDICTIVE FLOOD MODEL, WHAT WE'RE CALLING 3.0.

AND TAKE TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. THAT IS PROBABLY A 12 MONTH PROCESS AT OUR CURRENT ESTIMATE.

AND THEN LONG TERM LEVERAGE THAT PREDICTIVE FLOOD MODEL TO HELP GET BETTER IN FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND GET THOSE LOW WATER CROSSING BARRICADE GATES AUTOMATED. THIS GETS THIS LOOKS A LITTLE BUSY.

BUT I THINK YOU SEE, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT IS I'M LOOKING AT THE SCREEN IT'S THAT NETWORK OF STREAM AND RAIN GAUGES, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT JUST A RAIN GAUGE. YOU NEED THE STREAM GAUGES TO THOSE ALL WILL FEED INTO,

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YOU KNOW CURRENTLY FEED INTO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY SENSORS SOME OF OUR OWN.

THEY ALL COME TOGETHER AT THE RIVER AUTHORITY, AND THEN THEY GET PUSHED OUT THROUGH FLOODWATER OR THROUGH WAYS OR GOOGLE MAPS OR TO THE APPROPRIATE IOCS AS NECESSARY. BUT WE THINK THERE IS A BETTER WAY AS WE PROGRESS.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND. I TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS AND ADVOCACY.

WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THIS. BUT THE PUBLIC SERVICE CAMPAIGNS REGULARLY REMINDING PEOPLE ABOUT THE RISK THEY TAKE ABOUT FLOODING AND WHAT IT CAN DO AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER. WE EVEN HAD DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY.

SOME OF MY STAFF HAVE KIDS THAT HAVE JUST GONE THROUGH DRIVER'S ED AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEIR RELAY WAS THAT THERE'S NOT ONE SINGLE MENTION OF WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH DRIVING ON A FLOODED ROAD, A HEAVILY FLOODED ROAD. THEY TALK ABOUT RAIN WHEN IT'S WET, BUT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING.

PUBLIC AWARENESS FOR WHEN WE GET THAT NEW SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE OUT THERE.

AND THEN JUST CONTINUED ADDITIONAL OUTREACH. AND AND THIS IS ALWAYS THE THE TRICKY PART BECAUSE, AGAIN, MEMORIES FADE AND IT'S NOT A NEW PIECE OF SOFTWARE.

IT'S NOT A NEW DAMN. IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS, BUT IT TAKES MAINTENANCE TO KEEP THEM UP AND TO HAVE THEM DO THEIR JOB AND PERFORM WHEN THE TIME COMES. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT O&M STAYS TO THE FOREFRONT OF ALL OF OUR MINDS.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE CITIES NETWORK, THE COUNTIES NETWORK, YOU KNOW, SOME RIVER AUTHORITY. WE BELIEVE IT'S BEST THAT THERE'S ONE ENTITY THAT RUNS THAT FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM.

WE NEED TO WORK OUT DETAILS WITH DAVID AND HIS TEAM AND PROPOSE THEM BACK.

BUT WE THINK THE RIVER AUTHORITY IS IN AN EXCELLENT POSITION TO TAKE ON THAT, THAT RESPONSIBILITY.

WE WELCOME THAT CHALLENGE. AND THEN THE COUNTY CONTINUES ITS OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FOR THOSE STRUCTURAL AND NONSTRUCTURAL MITIGATION ASSETS.

SO WITH THAT JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

MY TEAM AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, THANK YOU. JUDGE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DEREK, FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION. LET ME JUST ASK YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GATES.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE PIER AND VITAL AREA, WE SAW METAL BARRICADES COMPLETELY RIPPED, BENT LIKE PIECES OF PAPER, CONCRETE DESTROYED.

ARE THESE SIMPLY. I SAW THAT PHOTO PRETTY FAST.

ARE THESE, LIKE, HIGH ALERT ARMS, OR ARE THESE A MORE SUBSTANTIAL STRUCTURE? THESE ARMS WOULD BE LOCATED OUT OF THE FLOODWAY INSTEAD OF THEIR ARMS. THEIR ARMS? YEAH. THEY ARE SUBJECT TO BEING DAMAGED AND AND HIT BEING HIT BY DEBRIS, BUT THEY'LL BE LOCATED OUTSIDE THE FLOODWAY SO THAT IT MINIMIZES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR BEING DAMAGED. OKAY. YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

WE ALSO HAD AN ISSUE OF VANDALISM OUT IN OUR EAST CENTRAL AREA, WHERE AS SOON AS WE PUT IT DOWN, I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEBODY STOLE IT. BUT THEY DID.

RIGHT. AND YOU'VE GOT SECURITY CAMERAS. YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THERE AS WELL AS THE LIGHTING.

AND THE SOLAR LIGHTING IS A GREAT THING THAT CAN REALLY HELP, BECAUSE IN A LOT OF THESE PLACES, ESPECIALLY IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIGHTS OUT THERE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT AS PART OF THIS OVERALL PACKAGE.

LET ME ASK YOU IF WHAT I'VE LEARNED JIVES WITH WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

I THINK I HAVE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IN MY CONVERSATIONS, OR AT LEAST IN HEARING THE CLARK COUNTY CONVERSATION AND THE SAN ANTONIO BEXAR COUNTY CONVERSATION, THE THE REAL SOLUTION IS NOT HIGH ALERT ARMS. AND THESE SYSTEMS, ITS BETTER FLOOD CONTROL PROJECTS.

THESE ARE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, A COMBINATION OF THINGS.

BUT YOU CAN BE STUCK IN, YOU KNOW, A HIGH WATER SITUATION IN A VERY FAST WAY.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE LARGER RETENTION AND RETENTION.

AND IN THE CASE OF THE VITAL CORRIDOR, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS SIX AND 6.2IN OF RAIN THAT FED THE TWO BASINS THE WATERSHED WITHIN A FIVE SQUARE MILE RADIUS WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD THAT CAUSED THE THE WATER TO BE THE WAY IT WAS.

BUT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER, THE FACT THAT YOU HAD ALL THIS CONCRETE ACROSS THE CORRIDOR IS WHAT DROVE THAT SPEED OF THE WATER AS IT CAME, YOU KNOW, DOWN INTO THE CATCHMENT BASIN OF VITAL CREEK.

AND THAT WHAT IS NEEDED THEN IS ADDITIONAL RETENTION DETENTION, NATURAL VEGETATIVE AREAS LIKE WHAT THE COUNTY DID ON FREDRICKSBURG ROAD AT THE OLD SPANISH TRAIL. SOCCER FIELDS REALLY IS WHAT THEY ARE NOW.

THAT WOULD SLOW THAT WATER ALLOW TO GO INTO THE GROUND AND AND AND BE RETAINED OR DETAINED.

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DOES THAT JIBE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, LET'S SAY FOR THE BATTLE CREEK AREA? YEAH. I'LL START AND THEN STEVE CAN ALSO JUMP IN.

BUT YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, GRAY INFRASTRUCTURE, IF YOU WILL, THE BIG THINGS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, COMMISSIONER, DETENTION, RETENTION BASINS, THAT TYPE OF THING HAVE TO BE ANY PART OF A PLAN, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE AREA THAT WE WE LIVE AND SERVE IN.

YOU ALSO MENTIONED THE, YOU KNOW, MORE NATURAL AND NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS.

THOSE ARE IMPORTANT AS WELL. IN FACT, THE COUNTY HAD DONE A PROJECT ON VITAL CREEK A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO THAT IS A MORE VEGETATED AREA AND YOU DO NOT SEE THE SAME DAMAGE THAT WE SAW IN THE CONCRETE LINED AREAS.

SO I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF KNOWING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE APPROPRIATE TOOL IS TO DEAL WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROBLEM AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

IT'S A COMBINATION, BUT IT ALL HAS TO BE PART OF THAT BIG, THAT BIG DISCUSSION.

YEAH. YOU STOLE SOME OF MY THUNDER. BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THE TRANSITIONING TO DETENTION AND RETENTION IS A BIG PART OF IT.

BUT THAT IS ONLY A SOLUTION. IT'S BRINGING BACK THE THE NATURAL STREAM BANK IS WHAT WE'VE DONE, ESPECIALLY ON THAT VITAL CREEK WHERE WE'VE ADDED A WIDE SPOT IN THE STREAM.

SO JUST UPSTREAM OF VICAR ROAD, IT'S VERY CHANNELIZED AND NARROW.

AND I THINK YOU IDENTIFIED THAT THE SPEED OF THE WATER GOING THROUGH THERE JUST DOWNSTREAM OF VICAR ROAD ON VITAL CREEK, SAME STREAM, SAME FLOWS, BUT IT GOT VERY WIDE AND FLAT IN THAT AREA AND THAT ALLOWED THE STREAM TO SLOW DOWN.

AND THOSE, YOU KNOW, DESTRUCTIVE SPEEDS JUST WERE ELIMINATED.

SO IT REALLY WASN'T EVEN IN DETENTION. IT WAS JUST HOW THE STREAM WAS SHAPED.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE FOCUS ON AT THE RIVER AUTHORITY.

SO I GREW UP IN THE AREA I USED TO RIDE MY BIKE IN ALL ALONG THE AREA, IN ALL THE WELL, ACTUALLY, THOSE DITCHES WERE NOT BUILT WHEN I WAS A KID.

THEY WERE ACTUALLY BUILT AFTERWARDS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW, IF YOU GO BEHIND THE ACADEMY IN THAT AREA AROUND 410 THERE IS A WAREHOUSE BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN ABANDONED WHERE THEY HAD A METAL FENCE, AND THAT METAL FENCE WAS COMPLETELY FLAT BECAUSE THE WATER TOOK THE METAL BARS AND JUST MADE THEM FLAT. BUT THE GOOD PART ABOUT IT BEING ABANDONED IS THAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN AREA FOR ACQUISITION, FOR A RETENTION DETENTION, SPORTS, SPORTS PARK KIND OF GREENERY AREA.

BECAUSE THE DRAINAGE DITCH IS 2015, I DON'T KNOW, BETWEEN 12 AND 20FT.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAPPENED TO GO BACK INTO MY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD UP HERE AND BATTLE TO SEE HOW THE WATER, WHETHER OR NOT IT WENT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT DID.

IT WAS STILL SITTING THERE SOME DAYS LATER AFTER THE STORM.

AND THAT HAS ME CONCERNED FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT I REPRESENT IN THE AREA, THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS WHAT I WOULD CALL A PRETTY BIG DRAINAGE CHANNEL, THERE IS STILL WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FLOOD MITIGATION AROUND THE CATCHMENT CORRIDOR, THERE IS STILL HIGH RISK THAT THERE WILL BE ANOTHER INCIDENT THAT CAUSES MASS FLOODING IN RESIDENTS AND OTHER AREAS.

SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, I THINK A LOT OF RESIDENTS WANT TO KNOW WITH RESPECT TO THE CLEANUP.

THERE'S STILL A LOT OF RUBBLE THERE. AND WHEN WILL I MEAN, AND HOW DO YOU THINK THAT IMPACTS OUR DRAINAGE THAT'S EXISTING TODAY, AND WHEN WILL WE GET THAT SO THAT THE CHANNEL FLOWS AND ISN'T OBSTRUCTED BY THAT RUBBLE? ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? I WILL LET STEVE ANSWER THE TECHNICAL PORTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE WHAT DOES THAT POTENTIALLY DO TO THE FLOW? I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS REQUESTED $21 MILLION IN THE.

THEIR LEGISLATIVE ASK SPECIFICALLY FOR DEBRIS CLEANUP.

IN REGARDS TO THAT BATTLE CREEK FLOOD, IT DID NOT.

IT DOES NOT REACH THE FEMA THRESHOLD, WHICH IS $50 MILLION PLUS WORTH OF DAMAGE.

SO THEY'RE ASKING THE SPECIAL SESSION FOR THAT TO ASSIST WITH THAT.

I DON'T HAVE A CURRENT TIMELINE ON THEIR DEBRIS REMOVAL EFFORTS, BUT I THINK YOU DID BRING UP A GOOD POINT, COMMISSIONER. IT'S NOT JUST INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IN THAT SAME GENERAL AREA.

THERE WAS A BUYOUT PROGRAM PREVIOUSLY WHERE HOMEOWNERS, YOU KNOW, WERE BOUGHT OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY THAT WERE PRONE TO REPETITIVE FLOODING AND THAT PROBABLY SAVED, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES AND POTENTIALLY LIVES DURING THIS MOST RECENT EVENT.

SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF TOOLS. THERE ARE THINGS LIKE HOME ELEVATION PROGRAMS. THERE ARE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DON'T BUILD IT, OBVIOUSLY DON'T BUILD IN THE FLOODWAY.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE LOOK AT WHAT IS THE 100 YEAR LOOK LIKE? WE'VE SEEN SUCCESS IN OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE'S A BUFFER ADJACENT TO WATERWAYS.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SUPER WIDE, BUT THAT CAN HELP ABSORB SOME OF THAT OVERFLOW WHEN A STREAM HITS FLOOD,

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FLOOD LEVEL OR A RIVER HITS FLOOD LEVEL. SO AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S A MENU OF TOOLS THAT CAN BE APPLIED, BUT EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE AND TERRAIN AND GEOGRAPHY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

YEAH. AS FAR AS WHAT KIND OF IMPACTS THE THE DEBRIS DOES IN THE, IN THE CHANNEL, HOW IT AFFECTS THE WATER ABSOLUTELY CAUSES FLOODWATERS TO RISE. SO FLOOD WATER TO RISE, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. IN THE ENGINEERING TERMS WE'D CALL IT A HYDRAULIC LOSS, BUT IT'S THE EFFECT IS THE WATER GETS BACKED UP IN THOSE REGIONS.

SO AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS OR ANY OF THE DEBRIS FROM THAT WAS IMPACTED LIKE YOU SAW IT LANDED ON ON VICKER DRIVE.

BUT ANYTIME TRASH MAKES ITS WAY INTO OUR STREAMS AND WATERWAYS, EVERY LITTLE BIT ADDS UP.

I MEAN, HOW MANY TONNES DID WE PULL OUT LAST YEAR? I MEAN, THERE'S TONS OF TRASH. IT MAKES ITS WAY INTO OUR WATERSHED.

SO IT'S A IT MAKES IT'S NOT JUST UNSIGHTLY. IT MAKES A BIG IMPACT ON FLOOD WATERS.

WELL, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SEEN TEXAS, A STATE OF TEXAS, USE THE RAINY DAY FUND FOR ONE OF OUR RAINIEST DAYS. AND I FIND IT IRONIC AND REALLY AN OUTRAGE THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE ICE STORM, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH FLOODS, AND WE NEVER USE OUR RAINY DAY FUND TO HELP LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

IT WOULD BE NICE, SINCE THE FEDS HAVEN'T KICKED IN ON THEIR THRESHOLD, IF THE STATE COULD HELP GET THIS THING TAKEN CARE OF, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR. AND IT'S LITERALLY THE RAINY DAY.

WITH RESPECT TO THE TRASH THAT'S IN OUR WATERWAYS, WE WE AS AN OFFICE STRUGGLE ALL THE TIME WITH CALLS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE DRAINAGE DITCHES THAT ARE OVERFLOWING WITH MY NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET UNION PACIFIC IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO CLEAN UP, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE DRAINAGE HAS EIGHT FOOT EIGHT FOOT GRASS. IT'S JUST TERRIBLE. BECAUSE WE REALLY WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ON A STREET LIKE MINE WHERE IT'S ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE HAVE ANOTHER RAIN COMING? IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PRETTY SOON BECAUSE WE ARE NEXT TO A WATERWAYS, A LOT OF CREEK.

ONE OF YOUR MAJOR FOCUS AREAS HERE. BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS WITH RESPECT TO THE BOONE'S, WE DID THE LITTER, BOONE, FOR THE FIRST TIME ACROSS SEVERAL OF OUR WATERWAYS.

I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT ABOUT THE TRASH BUILDUP BEING AMELIORATED BY LITTER BOOMS. WE'VE NEVER HAD A REAL SYSTEMIC IMPLEMENTATION IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT I THINK SOME OTHERS HAVE BEGUN.

SO. CAN YOU GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT, I MEAN, ONE, FROM YOUR MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT, I'M SURE IT'S A LOT EASIER THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IN THE CLEANUPS. BUT AS PART OF THIS WHOLE FLOOD MITIGATION, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONS OF TRASH IN OUR IN OUR WATERWAYS, HOW CAN LITTER BOOMS WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT BE? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S EVER BEEN MEASURED? I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE MEASUREMENT.

I CAN I KNOW THAT THE RIVER AUTHORITY HAS EXPERIMENTED OR PILOT PROJECT WITH BOOMS IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACES.

A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON THE DESIGN OF THE BOOM THE LOCATION OF THE BOOM, AND THEN THE TYPE OF WATER THAT HITS IT.

OFTENTIMES, YOU SEE, WITH BOOM SYSTEMS, AS SOON AS YOU GET A REALLY HEAVY RAIN, IT'S THE EFFECT IS MITIGATED BECAUSE IT JUST ALL WASHES OVER.

THE OTHER CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS THATCH ALL THE CUT GRASS FROM MOWING.

THAT BLOWS IN. THAT IS HEAVIER. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAN ANY TRASH THAT MIGHT HIT THE BOOM.

AND SO IT IS SINKING IT DOWN, DRAGGING IT DOWN AND CLOGGING IT UP.

AND THEREFORE IT'S NOT BEING EFFECTIVE FOR TRASH.

IT IS SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY WILLING TO LOOK AT AS WE EXPLORE THIS FURTHER.

AGAIN, IT'S A TOOL IN THE TOOL SHED TO HELP MITIGATE THAT.

BUT YES, WE PULL. WE PULL TENS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS FOR MISSION REACH OF TRASH EVERY YEAR.

THE CITY. I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THEY PULL FROM BEHIND.

ALMOST DAM, WHICH IS A COLLECTION POINT FOR A LOT OF THOSE AREAS NORTH.

AND THAT'S JUST IN TWO SORT OF MAJOR AREAS THAT DOESN'T COUNT WEST SIDE CREEKS.

YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT. AND SO I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRASH, YOU KNOW, THERE IT IS A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH THERE AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN EDUCATION ASPECT WHICH WE HAVE DONE.

WE HAVE TRIED TO DO SOME OF IT. THE RIVER AUTHORITY. WHEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DON'T THROW STUFF IN THE BED OF YOUR PICKUP AND THEN DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT ALL BLOWS OUT. PICK UP YOUR DOG, PICK UP AFTER YOUR DOG.

BUT IT'S YOU JUST HAVE TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK THERE'S OTHER THINGS, TOO. I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE FLOATED THE IDEA TO THE CITY OF, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN DO PEOPLE PUT OUT THEIR TRASH CANS? DO THEY PUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WINDOW TYPICALLY 24 HOURS BEFORE PICKUP, AND THEY CAN THEY HAVE TO PICK IT UP WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER PICKUP.

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ARE THEY PUTTING IT OUT EARLY? ARE THEY LEAVING IT OUT? BECAUSE OFTENTIMES YOU SEE THAT THOSE THINGS TIP OVER DOGS WHATEVER.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE A BUNCH MORE STUFF IN THE STREET.

SO AND MORE CONSTANT PICKUP. ARE THERE STREET SWEEPER CLEANING OPPORTUNITIES AND CRITICAL AREAS WHICH OUR WATER QUALITY WORK HAS LOOKED AT THAT MAKE MORE OF A DIFFERENCE THAN THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

YOU GET MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IN SOME PLACES THAN OTHERS.

SO BOOMS ARE PART OF THAT. WE COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT TRASH.

AND IF YOU TALK TO MY MY FIELD CREWS, THAT IS THEIR NUMBER ONE FRUSTRATION.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, A PLASTIC BAG OR A BEER SIX PACK OR WHATEVER IT IS FROM A TREE THAT'S 12FT UP IN THE AIR.

IT IS, AND IT'S UP AND DOWN THE MISSION REACH.

IT IS PRETTY FRUSTRATING. SO WE WOULD LOVE WHETHER IT'S PART OF THIS DISCUSSION OR RELATED, BUT SEPARATE DISCUSSION TO TALK MORE ABOUT TRASH, BECAUSE IT IS A PROBLEM AND IT IS FRUSTRATING.

WELL, WE'RE JUST BEGINNING WHAT I THINK IS A VERY HEALTHY CONVERSATION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I'VE SPOKE ABOUT THESE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT OFTEN TALKED ABOUT IN THE PRESS.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THESE MULTITUDES OF WAYS THAT WE COMBAT OUR FLOODING AND FLASH FLOOD ALLEY.

LET ME JUST SAY, ON BEHALF OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, THANK YOU TO THE RIVER AUTHORITY. THANK YOU, DEREK. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND YOUR TEAM WHO WORK VERY HARD TO TRY TO KEEP OUR WATERWAYS FLOWING, RIGHT.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU AND DO THINGS TO HELP THAT EFFORT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

WELL, THANK YOU, JUDGE. AND THANK YOU FOR FOR BEING HERE AND PRESENTING AND DAVID, FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM FORWARD.

FOR YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER CALVERT. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION.

I THINK THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY, A MOMENT THAT WE NEED TO SEIZE BOTH AS A COUNTY, AS A CITY, AS A REGION. AND I HOPE WE DO THAT. YOU KNOW, AS I WAS WE HAD A CONVERSATION A WEEK AGO ON THIS, AND I'VE BEEN GIVING IT A LOT OF THOUGHT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED WAS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FLOODING AND DISASTER RESPONSE AND EVERYTHING, WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? IT CAN BE PROPERTY PROTECTION AND FLOOD MITIGATION.

OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING ACCESS ROADWAYS.

THINK LOW WATER CROSSINGS OR IT CAN BE THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN LIFE, RIGHT? I THINK THAT NO ONE'S GOING TO ARGUE WITH ME THAT OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY SHOULD BE THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN LIFE.

AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE TENS OF MILLIONS, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, EVEN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT GETS SPENT IN THIS SPACE A LOT OF TIMES ON ENGINEERING PROJECTS THAT HELP IN THOSE OTHER CATEGORIES, MORE CAN BE DONE WITH A HIGHER RETURN ON INVESTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING HUMAN LIFE. AND I THINK THIS PROJECT SPEAKS TO THAT SPECIFICALLY.

SO THAT $10 MILLION FOR BEXAR COUNTY SEEMS LIKE REALLY HIGH ROI FOR PROTECTING HUMAN LIFE WHEN IT COMES TO FLOODING. I DO WANT TO JUST MENTION A FEW OTHER THINGS.

FROM FROM YOUR FROM YOUR ANALYSIS HERE IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THESE TOOLS AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE BE ALL, THE END ALL SOLUTION. BUT I THINK IT'S A HUGE STEP FORWARD IN THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO, WHERE WE HAVE REAL TIME AND PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS AROUND FLOOD WATERS BEFORE THEY GET THERE.

RIGHT. AND SO WE CAN WARN OUR CONSTITUENTS, OUR CITIZENS, AND MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THEM FROM A SITUATION THAT COULD COULD CAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION. SO OBVIOUSLY HE TALKS ABOUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM, HOW THAT COULD BE TIED IN WITH THE MODELING AND BETTER INFORMATION. BUT AND THIS GOES TO KIND OF THE COMMS ARGUMENT, AS MUCH AS I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAVE ON THE ECONOMY, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT GO FURTHER AND TALK ABOUT.

AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T JUST A BEXAR COUNTY THING. MAYBE THIS IS A STATE EFFORT RIGHT WHERE WE THINK TODAY ABOUT LIKE AMBER ALERTS AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR PHONES LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN'T IGNORE IT.

LIKE I SAW YOU MENTIONED WAZE AND GOOGLE MAPS, RIGHT? AND OBVIOUSLY THAT FEEDS IN AND CAN SAY ROADWAYS FLOODED.

BUT BEYOND THAT I THINK THERE'S A MORE AGGRESSIVE ALERT SYSTEM THAT WE COULD TRY TO INCORPORATE GEO FENCED TO CELL PHONES THAT ARE TRAVELING DOWN A ROADWAY THAT HAS PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS. THAT ROADWAY IS GOING TO BE COVERED IN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES.

AND WARNING THOSE INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY ARE RISKING THEIR LIVES IF THEY CONTINUE DOWN THE CURRENT ROAD.

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RIGHT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US CONTINUE TO MOVE DOWN THAT PATH AND TRY TO HAVE A SYSTEM SO ROBUST AND SO, YOU KNOW, TECH SAVVY. JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND PASS.

BUT IN HERE I DO THINK THERE'S THIS BRIEFLY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WITH ALL THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASED IMPERVIOUS COVER, THAT THIS MODEL OBVIOUSLY HAS TO CONTINUE TO BE UPDATED.

RIGHT. BECAUSE AS WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF ACRES CONTINUE TO TURN INTO CONCRETE ROOFTOPS, STREETS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE THOSE MODELS BECAUSE THAT FLOODING RISK WILL CHANGE WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE NEW ROADWAYS.

SO WE NEED TO TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND ALSO, WHAT ARE THOSE RECURRING COSTS WHEN IT COMES TO GOING FORWARD AND MAINTAINING THAT MODEL AT THAT HIGH THRESHOLD? SO I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO, TO INCLUDE THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.

I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THAT OUTREACH WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL THEY BUY INTO THIS AS WELL.

AND THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WHERE THEY'RE ALIGNED ON IT.

AND WE CAN WE CAN GO FORWARD TOGETHER PARTNER AND INVEST IN THIS SPACE.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS STAND TODAY OR IF ANY OF THOSE HAVE TAKEN PLACE WITH COUNCIL, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO, TO HAVE THOSE. AND THEN I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, HAVE WE HAD ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS OR IS THAT ALL DOWN THE ROAD? YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TALKING WITH WILSON, KEARNS AND GOLIAD.

THEY'RE AT THE THOSE ARE IN THE RIVER AUTHORITY'S JURISDICTION, AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT 95 LOCATIONS IDENTIFIED FOR POTENTIAL WATER, LOW WATER CROSSING GAUGES, AND WE'VE GOT THREE ALREADY TEED UP READY TO GO OUT THE DOOR.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET ELLA'S IN PLACE SO WE CAN GET THOSE INSTALLED SOMETIME OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, A COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST THING.

THOSE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY STARTED HAPPENING APRIL MAY BEFORE THE STORMS EVER HIT.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON OUR FOCUS, OUR RADAR FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRANCH OUT INTO THOSE OTHER COUNTIES JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE IN A KIND OF A CATBIRD SEAT, IF YOU WILL, OF BEING A REGIONAL PROVIDER. SO WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD POSITION ON KNOWING WHERE ALL OF THE GAGES ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF, AND EXTENDING THOSE, THOSE CAPABILITIES TO THE REGIONS THAT DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE OR RESOURCES TO DEVELOP THEM.

SO WE'RE ALREADY DOING GOING DOWN THAT PATH. AND AS FAR AS YOUR COMMENT ABOUT UPDATING THE MODEL, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO PRETTY REGULARLY. WE'RE GOING THROUGH A MODEL UPDATE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF NOT ONLY IMPERVIOUS COVER AS A RESULT OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT RAIN. RAIN DATA IS UPDATED EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS AS PART OF WHAT'S CALLED ATLAS.

ATLAS PROGRAM. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN. ATLAS 1415 IS COMING UP SOON, BUT WHENEVER THE ATLAS 14 CAME OUT, WE BEGAN TO UPDATE ALL OF OUR OUR FLOOD MODELS.

SO THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING PROCESS. AND WE'VE DONE THAT FOR FOR THREE OF THE WATERSHED THROUGH THE CREEKS AND STREAMS. WE'VE GOT THREE MORE TO GO. SO IT'S ALL IN PROGRESS.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE NORTHERN COUNTIES OR GENERALLY NORTHERN OF BEXAR COUNTY, THOSE ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, LEGAL JURISDICTION. BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

AND AND THERE'S BEEN DIALOG WITH KENDALL COUNTY ABOUT OUR FLOODPLAIN MAPPING.

WE DO WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY TWO PROVIDERS IN THE STATE THAT FEMA TRUSTS TO HANDLE FLOODPLAIN MAPPING ON THEIR BEHALF.

IT'S US IN HARRIS COUNTY, FLOOD CONTROL IN HOUSTON.

BUT WE HAVE A CERTAIN BOUNDARY ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND KENDALL, FOR EXAMPLE, IS INTERESTED AND HAS BEEN TALKING TO US ABOUT EXPANDING OUR WORK INTO TO THEIR AREA VANILLA THAT FEMA OR THEY WOULD PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT WITH JURISDICTIONAL FUNDS WITHIN OUR CURRENT JURISDICTION.

SO THAT DIALOG IS HAPPENING. WE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, OUR SISTER ENTITIES FREQUENTLY, BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. YES. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THIS, EVEN THIS PROPOSAL IS LEGALLY, I CAN'T USE COUNTY MONEY OUTSIDE OF BEXAR COUNTY.

RIGHT. SO FOR THESE OTHER COUNTIES, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PARTNERING OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN US, THE CITY AND THE RIVER AUTHORITY. WHILE THE LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION TO ADVOCATE FOR THE STATE TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THOSE COUNTIES.

NO, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ENGAGE THOSE COUNTIES.

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WE NEED TO ENGAGE WITH ACOG AND OTHER WATER BOARDS, YOU KNOW, TO NOT ONLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE OTHER IDEAS THAT THAT THEY HAVE OR OTHER BEST PRACTICES THAT WE CAN TRY TO INTEGRATE.

BUT HOW DO WE ADVOCATE TOGETHER? YOU KNOW, AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE OR GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE A BENEFIT ACROSS COUNTY LINES, OBVIOUSLY.

SO I THINK THE MORE COMMUNICATION WE CAN HAVE ON THAT FRONT THE SOONER THE BETTER.

I'M HAPPY TO HELP BE AN ADVOCATE. IN AUSTIN. I THINK THAT AGAIN, THIS SEEMS LIKE A REALLY HIGH RETURN ON INVESTMENT PROJECT.

I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO SAY THAT BEFORE WE SPEND ANOTHER $10 MILLION ON A LOW WATER CROSSING, LET'S SPEND THE $10 MILLION ON MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS EARLY WARNING SYSTEM IN PLACE.

THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU JUDGE.

I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT.

DEREK, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND YOUR PATIENCE, BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET TO THIS A LITTLE WHILE BACK, BUT YOU KNOW, LET ME ASK DAVID BECAUSE I KNOW FIRST OF ALL, LET ME ACKNOWLEDGE DAVID KIND OF COMING UP WITH THE BRAINSTORMING WITH THE JUDGE ON THIS REALLY IMPORTANT INITIATIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF THE THE MONEY IT'S IT'S WORTH IT BECAUSE OF THE THE WHAT'S AT STAKE IN SAVING LIVES? BUT SPEAKING OF THE MONEY DO WE HAVE FUNDING IDENTIFIED YET? IS IT GOING TO BE PHASED? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

I SAW ROUGHLY A $50 MILLION PRICE TAG FOR THE ENTIRE PACKAGE.

TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING WITH THE THE FUNDING SOURCE.

SO IT WON'T BE 50 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE 32 OF IT'S FOR OUTSIDE OF BEXAR COUNTY, RIGHT? IT COULD BE 20 MILLION FOR THE COUNTY. BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M HOPING THE CITY WANTS TO PARTNER WITH US AND PAY FOR THEIR 11 MILLION.

SO WHAT THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDED MOTION IS TO DIRECT ME TO ADDRESS FUNDING IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

GOTCHA. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, I WANT TO BE DEREK TO WALK OUT OF THIS MEETING AND GET TO WORK.

YEAH. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR MONEY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

WHEN YOU SAY COUNTY, I'M ASSUMING OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, BUT THE SUBURBAN CITIES ARE GOING TO NEED HELP TOO. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO SO I THINK OF LEON VALLEY, WHICH HISTORICALLY HAS PRETTY BAD FLOODING IN MY PRECINCT.

SO SO AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT.

IMPORTANT INITIATIVE. IT IS A CORE FUNCTION OF WHAT COUNTY GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING IN TERMS OF FLOOD CONTROL AND PROTECTING LIVES.

SO I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH YOUR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING AN UPDATE DOWN THE ROAD.

AND IF THERE'S NOT BEEN A MOTION MADE YET, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK MR. DAVID SMITH FOR YOUR INNOVATION IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND REACHING OUT TO TO THEM TO PUT IT TOGETHER. AND INSTEAD OF NEXT GENERATION FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM, I THINK IT SHOULD BE CALLED THE DAVID SMITH FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM.

WE NEED A GOOD LAUGH. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. BUT THIS IS VITALLY.

I'M. I'M SERIOUS. THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL IT. ME AND MY CONSTITUENTS IN OUR PRECINCT, IT IS THE DAVID SMITH FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM. SO THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT DESPITE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON, EVERYONE'S NOT GOING TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.

BUT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO PUT THE FUNDING HERE.

SO I'M HAPPY FOR SECOND THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION. ANY FURTHER COMMENT QUESTION.

LET ME AGAIN THANK DEREK AND YOUR TEAM JIM CAMPBELL ON BOARD.

WE'VE HAD A GREAT, GREAT, EXCELLENT RELATIONSHIP SINCE I'VE BECOME A COUNTY JUDGE, AND YOU'VE KIND OF BROUGHT ME UP TO SPEED AND ALL THE FLOODING, DRAINAGE ISSUES. THAT AND THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE WORKED WITH IN REGARDS WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH ESPECIALLY JUDGE WOLF, COMMISSIONER ELIZONDO, WITH THAT SAN PEDRO CREEK, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS.

SO AGAIN, LET ME ECHO MY THANKS TO DAVID SMITH AND HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS TEAM FOR BRINGING THIS MATTER.

I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO JUST CONCLUDE TODAY'S COMMENT IS JUST LET'S NOT FORGET WHAT WAS IT, JUNE 12TH, THE BATTLE CREEK FLOODING AND 13 VICTIMS, SIR, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED HAD WE HOPEFULLY IT HAD A WARNING SYSTEM, I BELIEVE. SARAH SANTONI, RIVER AUTHORITY, YOU STEPPED UP TO DO AN IMMEDIATE, INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT WHICH HAS HELPED THE CITY AND COUNTY FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED AFTER THAT, OBVIOUSLY, WAS THE JULY 4TH FLOODING UP IN KERR COUNTY IN THE HILL COUNTRY,

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WHICH HAD MUCH, MUCH MORE DEVASTATION AND VICTIMS. AND THE REVIEW HAS BEEN QUITE BRUTAL. I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT THAT REVIEW HAS REMINDED ME WHAT MY PRIMARY JOB AS COUNTY JUDGE IS, AND THAT'S TO PROTECT THIS COUNTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS I HAVE TO DO TO SHOW UP AND DO THINGS OR PRESIDE OVER MEETINGS, BUT I BETTER DAMN WELL MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY WEATHER EVENTS OR CATASTROPHIC EVENTS OR ANYTHING IN THIS COUNTY, I'D BETTER BE UP IN AT THEM. AND BEING ASLEEP AND OR BEING OUT OF TOWN IS NOT GOING TO PROBABLY GIVE ME MUCH EXCUSE.

THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE A DEMAND ON ME AS TO WHY I DIDN'T REACT IN THE WAY I DO.

SO WHAT IS TRULY EMPOWERING ABOUT THE IDEA THAT DAVID IS BROUGHT OUT.

AND DEREK, YOU ALL HAVE EMBRACED IS THE FACT THAT THIS SEEMS TO BE AND I'M WANTING TO REALLY SEE HOW THIS THING IS GOING TO WORK, BUT THIS REALLY GETS TO BE MORE PREVENTIVE. IN ADDITION, IT'S REALLY PRETTY PROACTIVE, SO TO SPEAK, THAT IF WE CAN GET THESE MODELS AND THESE GAUGES DOWN, AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE AN EXISTING SYSTEM IN EFFECT NOW.

SO THERE'S SOME WE GOT TO GO FIX THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FIXED PERHAPS IN A WHILE.

WE NEED TO UPGRADE, GET THE LATEST SOFTWARE. WE'VE GOT TO GET THE RIGHT VENDORS IN.

AND I KNOW THAT SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, WITH YOUR EXPERTISE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE STATE OF THE ART.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RIGHT SYSTEM, THE RIGHT SOFTWARE, THE RIGHT VENDOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT WILL LAST MANY YEARS AND NOT JUST GO OUT OF DATE, SO TO SPEAK. THE OTHER PART THAT WE DIDN'T TOUCH UPON, BUT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN MEETINGS, ESPECIALLY WITH ME, IS THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE A FUTURE DISCUSSION OF A REGIONAL AND WHAT WE HOPE IS THIS IS ONE PIECE TOWARDS A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE OF HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES, ESPECIALLY OUR RURAL COUNTY, THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY DEFINITELY IMPACTED BY WHATEVER WATERSHED ISSUES WE HAVE OR WHATEVER REMEDIATION WE DO WILL AFFECT OTHER COMMUNITIES AND WE NEED TO PARTNER UP. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION.

AND, SARAH, THAT'S WELL WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW AND JURISDICTION OF HAVING ADJOINING COUNTIES TO BE JOINING THAT.

SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU AND YOUR BOARD TO TO INCLUDE OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, ESPECIALLY OUR COUNTY JUDGES OUT THERE, TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO ALSO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

AND THEN LOOKING TOWARDS WHATEVER THE FEDERAL FUNDING, STATE FUNDING THAT CAN HELP SUPPLEMENT.

I BELIEVE, DAVID, YOU HAVE BASICALLY SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.

WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT SOME BIG PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE NOW MADE A DECISION, BUT I WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC, AND I WANT TO REMIND THE PEOPLE HERE AND THE COURT THAT WE'RE STILL TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS.

AND THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT I HOPE THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, AND THAT, OBVIOUSLY. BUT THIS IS A REMINDER THAT CITY RESIDENTS, CITY TAXPAYERS ARE ALSO COUNTY RESIDENTS AND COUNTY TAXPAYERS. AND I THINK SOMETIMES CITY COUNTY KIND OF GETS WE SOMETIMES GET CAUGHT UP AND SAY, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

WE ARE STEPPING UP TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL RESIDENTS OTHER OF BEXAR COUNTY, INCLUDING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, INCLUDING THE SUBURBAN CITIES, INCLUDING THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, ARE ALL PART OF THIS NEXT GEN WARNING SYSTEM, AND FOR THAT, I'M ETERNALLY GRATEFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I CALL FOR A VOTE. COMMISSIONER, JUST PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

WHAT IS THE VOTE OF THE MOTION BEFORE US? SO THE MOTION WAS TO DIRECT STAFF TO IDENTIFY FUNDING THIS BUDGET CYCLE FOR IMPLEMENTATION.

OKAY. I GUESS AND MY QUESTION WAS JUST AROUND THE SPECIFICITY OF THIS DEAL VERSUS OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO SUPPORT THIS SORT OF MOVEMENT, BUT I THINK THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LIKE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD ON TO IT AND EXPLORE FURTHER.

SO I ASSUME THAT'S KIND OF INCLUDED HERE FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT DETAILS AND POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED.

YOU MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S I WAS JUST THINKING WHAT WAS PRESENTED.

THE MOTION WAS TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK FOR FUNDING SOURCES FOR THOSE IDEAS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THAT. CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION?

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YEAH. SO AND MAYBE YOU CAN JUST ADDRESS IT. OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS TURNED AROUND VERY QUICKLY.

RIGHT? AND TO ME, I SAW THIS AS AS A FIRST DRAFT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE THINK MAKES SENSE AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.

I'M NOT TRYING TO UNDERMINE IT IN ANY WAY, BUT I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WHETHER WE'RE 100% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE PLAN.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE BUDGET VERSUS THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO TWEAK AND CONTINUE TO PLAY WITH AS WE GO FORWARD HERE IN THE BUDGET SEASON.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT. I MEAN, I CALLED IT A ROADMAP ON PURPOSE.

YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED THROUGH THAT, I THINK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THOSE ARE AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND WE WORK WITH DAVID AND HIS TEAM ON THAT.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, WE ARE CONTINUING TO REFINE THIS AS WE GO ALONG.

YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE PRIOR TO THE FLOODS OF JUNE AND JULY, WE HAD A UPDATE TO OUR REGIONAL WATERSHED MASTER PLAN IN THE WORKS.

WE ARE REVIEWING THE DRAFT RIGHT NOW. WE ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, BY THE END OF AUGUST, ROUGHLY, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AND SAY, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING FUTURE BOND PROJECTS FOR LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS, HERE IS OUR RECOMMENDATION ON HOW YOU PRIORITIZE LIMITED DOLLARS.

THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. BUT YOU KNOW, THE TEAM HAS BEEN MEETING NOT DAILY, BUT PRETTY DARN CLOSE TO FLUSH THIS OUT.

YOU KNOW, DEVELOP THE SCHEDULE. IT'S A YOU KNOW, THERE IS A FLOW CHART OF DO THIS BEFORE THIS AND THE ACCOMPANYING SCHEDULE.

SO ALL OF THAT IS UNDERWAY. I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING YET BECAUSE WE ARE STILL LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE WANT TO BENCHMARK OURSELVES AGAINST? BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, BEST IN CLASS, BEST IN THE COUNTRY.

SO THAT IS ALL BEING FIGURED OUT. BUT WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT START.

AND AFTER THAT, OR IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE COURT AND DAVID GO, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS IN HERE WE REGARD AS CRITICAL AND TO KEEP THE SYSTEM TO GET IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT DOING MORE, WHETHER IT'S TRASH, AS COMMISSIONER CALVERT TALKED ABOUT OR OTHER THINGS.

BUT THIS IS A BIGGER DISCUSSION. BUT THIS GETS THE BALL MOVING IN OUR OPINION.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER MOODY? I BELIEVE SO JUST YEAH, THAT THIS IS A ROADMAP.

IT'S IT'S IT'S LAID OUT, BUT THIS IS DIRECTING STAFF TO CONTINUE TO TO FIND FUNDS FOR THIS STARTING POINT AND FURTHER REFINE THE ROADMAP GOING FORWARD.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND TO COMMISSIONERS COURT IS AT A MINIMUM, WE ARE GOING TO FUND THE COST FOR THE SUBURBAN CITIES AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.

BUT WHAT I AM TELLING DEREK IS WHETHER ANOTHER PARTNER STEPS IN TO FUND THE 11 MILLION FOR THE CITY OR NOT.

I'LL FIND THE 11 MILLION BECAUSE THEY'RE COUNTY RESIDENTS TOO.

SO I'M TAKING THE MISSION INITIALLY TEN. BUT IF IT NEEDS TO BE THE FULL 21, I'LL DO IT.

I'M SORRY. HOW LONG HAVE WE SPENT ON THIS ITEM? DOES ANYONE KNOW? ABOUT AN HOUR. WE JUST SPENT AN HOUR TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.

HOW NO ONE WILL DISAGREE WITH ME. IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAVE LIVES.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. I MEAN, WE NEED TO PASS IT, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THE STATE. WE NEED TO PASS IT. HOPEFULLY THE CITY WILL COME ON BOARD.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET REIMBURSED FROM THE STATE, BUT I THOUGHT WE JUST SPENT AN HOUR TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. WELL, I JUST WANTED REAL QUICK.

WE GOT MORE DISCUSSION THEN, COMMISSIONER MOODY. GO AHEAD. WELL, I JUST I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE COMMENTS ARE COMING FROM. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTIVE HERE.

WE'RE TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE THE RIGHT STEPS FORWARD SO WE CAN PROTECT OUR CITIZENS IN BEXAR COUNTY.

I THINK THAT'S CLEAR. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE CALLING FOR THE VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES OF. LOST OR SECOND BY.

WHO WAS IT? COMMISSIONER MOODY. ELIZABETH. WHO WAS IT? I JUST DID, I DID. OKAY. JUST GET EVERYBODY THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S GETTING LATE IN THE DAY, GUYS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION.

MOTION CARRIES. JUST WANT A REMINDER, SIR. AND COUNTY, WE HAVE CALLED FOR A PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE CONCLUSION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME THAT WILL BE. WE'RE GETTING THERE.

WE'RE WE'RE WE ARE COMING AROUND THE CURVE, SO TO SPEAK.

SO I WANT TO INVITE COMMISSIONERS TO PLEASE IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, WE'RE GOING TO WE'LL HAVE THAT PRESS CONFERENCE BACK IN OUR CONFERENCE ROOM.

ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, LET US MOVE ON. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. 46 WE'RE GOING BACK TO CONSENT FOR THOSE MATTERS THAT WERE PULLED.

[37. (Keri Mallon) Adoption of the Texas Indigent Defense Commission's Improvement Grant Program Resolution for Year Three, FY 25-26 for the Public Defender Padilla Plus Division (formerly known as the NonCitizen Unit). Year Three funding was awarded $232,328 in grant funding and $232,328 in County match funds, for a total project cost of $464,565; for a term beginning October 1, 2025 - September 30, 2026.]

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OUR FIRST CONSIDERATION IS AGENDA ITEM 37, ADOPTION OF THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION'S IMPROVEMENT PLAN GRANT PROGRAM RESOLUTION FOR YEAR THREE, FY 2526 FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

PADILLA PLUS DIVISION, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE NONCITIZEN UNIT THREE FUNDING YEAR THREE FUNDING WAS AWARDED $232,328 IN GRANT FUNDING, 232 328 AND COUNTY MATCH FUNDS, FOR A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF 460 $565 FOR A TERM BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026.

HELLO, MISS MALLON. GOOD AFTERNOON. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS.

WELL, LET ME LET ME JUST START. COMMISSIONER MOONEY, IS THERE A QUESTION OR COMMENTS.

AND THIS WILL HOPEFULLY ADDRESS FAIRLY BRIEF COMMENTS.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE GRANTS THAT STARTS OUT WITH THE STATE AND THEN TRANSITIONS TO COUNTY OWNERSHIP.

CORRECT? CORRECT. SO I'M AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO BE BRIEF BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, AND I KNOW ON THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S SIDE, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE AMBIGUITY AROUND SERVICES.

BUT THE PADILLA PLUS NAME TO ME STANDS OUT BECAUSE I FULLY SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS OF EVERYONE IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, PERIOD.

RIGHT. WHICH INCLUDES PADILLA. OKAY. AND THE PROTECTIONS THAT COME WITH THAT? CORRECT. BUT I DON'T SUPPORT ANYTHING BEYOND THAT.

THAT'S A POLITICAL DECISION THAT THIS COURT HAS MADE IN THE PAST.

BUT I'LL HIGHLIGHT THAT NEITHER DO THE VAST MAJORITY OF TAXPAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE STATS.

I WROTE AN OP ED IN THE EXPRESS NEWS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, BUT A RECENT SURVEY CONDUCTED BY AP CENTER FOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS RESEARCH FOUND THAT 83% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT THE US SHOULD PRIORITIZE DEPORTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE COMMITTED VIOLENT CRIMES.

SEPARATE POLL BY THE NEW YORK TIMES FOUND THAT NEARLY 87% OF AMERICANS HELD THOSE SAME OPINIONS.

IN THE TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, HOUSE BILL 1554 PASSED THE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE A VOTE TO BAN THE PRACTICE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY. WHEN IT COMES TO USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR LEGAL SERVICES THAT ARE NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED FOR NON-CITIZENS. I FULLY BELIEVE THAT ULTIMATELY THE STATE WILL PASS A BAN, BUT UNTIL THEN IT SEEMS LIKE OUR COUNTY WILL CONTINUE TO FUND A POLICY THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF TAXPAYERS DO NOT AGREE WITH, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL PLUS GRANT AND THE PROGRAM THAT IT CREATES FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY, WHICH IS WHY I WON'T SUPPORT IT, AS I HAVEN'T PREVIOUSLY SUPPORTED IT.

BUT I'LL JUST REST THERE. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO.

CAN I SPEAK? YES. ARE YOU DONE? OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? I, I DON'T NEED TO ADD MUCH. I WOULD JUST TRY TO REASSURE YOU AGAIN THAT RIGHT NOW, WE.

WE'RE PUBLIC DEFENDERS. WE DO WHAT'S MANDATED BY THE CONSTITUTION.

AND IF WE WEREN'T DOING IT AS THE LAW STANDS RIGHT NOW, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT, WHICH IS REPRESENT NON-CITIZENS.

AND RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST, WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION, AT LEAST IN PART, PAY FOR SOME OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

I UNDERSTAND THE GRANT WILL RUN OUT, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION IF WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE UNIT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S MANDATED BY THE CONSTITUTION, AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING.

COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE, I WOULD JUST I'M CERTAIN THERE'S PROBABLY AN ECONOMIC ARGUMENT THAT WOULD MAYBE APPEAL TO YOU, COMMISSIONER MOODY, BUT BUT TO ME, THIS IS ABOUT HELPING VULNERABLE CITIZENS, WHETHER THEY'RE HERE TEMPORARILY OR BASICALLY, IT'S THE HUMANE THING TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY AT THEIR MOST VULNERABLE.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. JUDGE.

SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY. FURTHER, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MOODY. QUICK REBUTTAL.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ECONOMIC ARGUMENT, BUT BUT NO.

AND SPECIFICALLY THE REFERENCE WAS TO CITIZENS.

THIS UNIT WAS PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE NON-CITIZEN UNIT.

SO. SO IT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR CITIZENS. AND TO YOUR POINT, MISS MELTON.

YES. AS I STARTED MY COMMENTS, I FULLY SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO CRIMINAL DEFENSE.

BUT AS THE NEW NAME SUGGESTS, PADILLA PLUS WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE PLUS BECAUSE I DON'T SUPPORT FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL

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SERVICES. AND AS I SAID, POLITICAL DECISION, NOT A DECISION BASED ON CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS IN MY OPINION.

AND I'LL LEAVE IT THERE, MISS BAILEY. THERE WAS NO QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. I'M CALLING FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE TAKING UP THE OTHER AGENDA.

[46. Ratification of a grant application and acceptance of award from the the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development for the solicitation entitled Community Project Funding (CPF) FY24 in the amount of $750,000 with no match requirement; and acceptance of funding upon award; to provide for the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) modification and renovations to the South San Civic Center at 503 Lovett Street San Antonio Texas, 78211.]

ITEM 46. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, I'M TEEING UP RATIFICATION OF GRANT APPLICATION ACCEPTANCE AWARD FOR THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SOLICITATION, ENTITLED COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING FOR FY 24, AN AMOUNT OF $750,000 WITH NO MATCH REQUIREMENT AND ACCEPTANCE OF FUNDING UPON AWARD TO PROVIDE FOR THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.

ADA MODIFICATION. RENOVATIONS TO THE SOUTH SAND CIVIC CENTER AT 503 LOVETT STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. 78211. LET ME PASS THE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

YEAH. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE. YOU KNOW, I PASSED THIS HOURS AGO.

AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE POLITICAL GAMING, WE'RE STILL HERE.

PEOPLE KEEP TELLING ME I LOOK GOOD. THANK YOU.

BUT I AM RECOVERING FROM COLON CANCER, AND I AM EXHAUSTED, SO I HAVE STAYED SO THAT I CAN.

SINCE I PULLED THIS. HAD I KNOWN I WAS GOING TO GO THIS LONG, I WOULD NOT HAVE PULLED IT, SO I PULLED IT. AND THEN I HAVE TO LEAVE BECAUSE I AM EXHAUSTED AND I'M RECOVERING FROM COLON CANCER, SO I ONLY PULLED IT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL TO THANK CONGRESSMAN CASTRO FOR WORKING WITH ME TO GET THIS FUNDING FOR THIS COUNTY CIVIC CENTER ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO IMPROVE, ESPECIALLY RAMPS, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR SENIORS AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE FALLEN BECAUSE THEY ARE IN WHEELCHAIRS AND THEY ARE IN WALKERS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, KEN, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

PLEASE KEEP ME ABREAST OF WHEN IT'S STARTING AND HOW IT'S GOING BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO THIS NOT JUST FOR SOUTH SAN CIVIC CENTER, BUT THE REST OF OUR CIVIC CENTERS. YES, MA'AM.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION? MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, LARRY, WE HAVE NOW COMPLETED CONSENT.

CORRECT, CAKE. ALL RIGHT. LET US NOW GO TO INDIVIDUAL ITEMS.

[83. Presentation, discussion and appropriate action regarding authorization to negotiate an agreement between Bexar County and University Health System to provide behavioral health services in the Justice Intake and Assessment Annex (JIAA). Contracted services will include staffing costs related to 8 LMSW positions, 1 LMSW Supervisor, 4 Discharge Expeditors, and costs related to administrative functions, including the EPIC electronic medical records system.]

FIRST UP IS 83 PRESENTATION DISCUSSION APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING AUTHORIZATION.

NEGOTIATED AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM TO PROVIDE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AND THE JUSTICE INTAKE AND ASSESSMENT ANNEX.

GIA CONTRACTED SERVICES WILL INCLUDE STAFFING COSTS RELATED TO LMS POSITIONS, ONE MSW SUPERVISOR FOR DISCHARGE EXPEDITORS, AND COSTS RELATED TO ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS, INCLUDING THE ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORD SYSTEM.

DOCTOR GUERRERO. GOOD AFTERNOON, COURT MEMBERS.

I AM DOCTOR ANDREA GUERRERO, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

YOU'VE JUST INTRODUCED MY ITEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE GIA.

THE GIA IS THE JUSTICE INTAKE AND ASSESSMENT ASSESSMENT ANNEX.

SO JUST FOR CONTEXT, I KNOW ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN AT THE BEXAR COUNTY JAIL.

THE GIA IS THE PORTION OF THE JAIL THAT BEGINS AT THE SALLY PORT AND ENDS WHEN A PERSON IS, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING REGISTRATION AND IS BONDED OUT THE GERE OR GETS SENT INTO UPSTAIRS INTO THE MAIN JAIL.

THE GIA OPENED IN DECEMBER OF 2018, AND IT WAS REALLY IN RESPONSE TO ENSURING THAT WE, BEXAR COUNTY, ARE ADHERING TO ARTICLE 1622 OF THE TEXAS CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, WHICH ADDRESSES HOW FOLKS ARE ASSESSED FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WHEN THEY ARE ARRESTED.

THAT ARTICLE 1622 WAS AMENDED FOLLOWING THE SANDRA BLAND ACT THAT WAS ENACTED IN 2017.

AND SO THE GIA WAS WAS LARGELY IN RESPONSE TO THAT IN THE GIA.

THERE ARE MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS THAT PROVIDE COVERAGE 24 OVER SEVEN EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.

AND THE GOAL REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE THAT THE GOAL OF HAVING MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS AND HAVING THESE CLINICIANS IN THE GIA IS TO DIVERT QUALIFIED PERSONS TO MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT.

WHEN WE SAY QUALIFIED PERSONS, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ARRESTED WHO ARE ACCUSED OF LOW LEVEL CHARGES, WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR PR BONDS. REALLY THE SAME POPULATION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE THE PCI UNIT, THE CURRENT PROCESS. AND REALLY WE'RE JUST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO THE GIA, AS I SAID, COVERS A LONG PROCESS OF SOMEONE THAT IS BROUGHT INTO CUSTODY. BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT JUST THE PROCESS FOR ASSESSING SOMEONE FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES

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WHEN THEY IN SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES WHEN THEY COME INTO THE JAIL. SO THE FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH THESE MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING QUESTIONS USUALLY HAPPENS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM WHATEVER JURISDICTION THAT PERSON IS ARRESTED WHERE THEY ASK FOR MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING QUESTIONS.

THEN WHEN THEY'RE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY AT THE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THEY ALSO ASKED THESE QUESTIONS AND COULD BE FLAGGED AT THAT TIME FOR.

WHICH JUST MEANS CONTINUITY OF CARE, MEANING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS PERSON TO SEE IF THEY NEED SERVICES OR A MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT.

WHILE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE BOOKING PROCESS, THE CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES IS THE CURRENT PROVIDER OF THESE MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS, AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT PROVIDE THE CLINICIANS THAT DO THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS CURRENTLY.

IS ALSO PRESENT IN THE GIA AND THEY PERFORM ID SCREENINGS AND ATTEMPT DIVERSION FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHICH ARE DIFFERENT POPULATION FROM MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE. AND THEN FINALLY UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM IS PRESENT IN THE GIA AS WELL.

AND THEY PROVIDE MEDICAL AND PHYSICAL ASSESSMENTS FOR FOLKS WHO ARE ARRESTED.

THEY ARE PRESENT THERE IN THE BOOKING AREA. IT SHOULD BE NOTED ALSO THAT UNIVERSITY HEALTH IS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDER FOR FOLKS WHO ARE BOOKED INTO THE INTO THE MAIN JAIL AND WHO AREN'T RELEASED FROM THE GYM. SO BACK IN OCTOBER 2023, THIS COURT APPROVED A STUDY TO BE CONDUCTED BY DOCTOR ALEXANDER TESTA, WHO IS A PROFESSOR AND RESEARCHER AT UT HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER, HOUSTON.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT EVALUATION WAS TO CREATE OR WAS TO PROVIDE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE EFFICIENCY OF THE PROCESS AND TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO FROM APRIL 2024 THROUGH JUNE 20TH JUNE 2024, DOCTOR TEST AND HIS TEAM WERE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE GIA.

THEY WATCHED THE PROCESS AND THEY WATCHED THE ENTIRE PROCESS FROM BOOKING THROUGH MAGISTRATE AND THROUGH RELEASE.

AND SO, AS I SAID, THIS PRESENTATION IS TO JUST FOCUS ON THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT, PARTICULARLY CHAPTER FOUR OF HIS REPORT, WHICH WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD IN FEBRUARY OF 2025.

SO EARLIER THIS YEAR DOCTOR TESTA CAME AND PRESENTED HIS FINDINGS AND HIS RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE DATA RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE DIVERSIONS GOING BACK TO 2019.

SO THIS WOULD BE LIKE A YEAR AFTER THE GIA OPENED.

AND MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS AND SUBSTANCE USE ASSESSMENTS WERE BEING DONE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TOTAL ANNUAL DIVERSION, SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TIMES A PERSON WAS SUCCESSFULLY DIVERTED INTO TREATMENT WAS 2019 WAS 565. AND WITH EACH SUBSEQUENT YEAR 394, 4043, 526.

AND YOU'LL SEE A DECLINE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

SO IF WE LOOK JUST TAKE A DEEPER DIVE JUST INTO THE DATA FROM LAST YEAR.

SO THIS WOULD BE FY 2024. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE COMPLETED IN THE GIA WERE NEARLY 19,032, 3200. ALMOST 3300 WERE SUICIDE ASSESSMENTS AND THEN NEARLY 16,000 WERE FULL ASSESSMENTS.

OF THAT NUMBER, 481 DIVERSIONS WERE REQUESTED.

NOW, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DIVERSIONS THAT WERE ACTUALLY COMPLETED APPROVED, BECAUSE THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF REASONS WHY A DIVERSION WOULDN'T BE APPROVED. THE MAGISTRATE DOESN'T APPROVE IT. THEY DON'T QUALIFY.

SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DIVERSIONS WAS 278. OF THOSE, 116 WERE EMERGENCY DETENTIONS.

CHC, THE PROVIDER IN THE GIA DIVERTED 105 TO THEIR TO THEIR SERVICES AND THEN CONTINUING SERVICES WHICH ARE OUTPATIENT ARE 42 FOR SUBSTANCE USE DIVERSION. CHC COMPLETED 15 SUBSTANCE USE DIVERSIONS DURING THAT YEAR.

SO IF WE LOOK AT DOCTOR TESSA'S REPORT AND OFTEN ONE OF THE CRITICISMS OF RESEARCH OR AN EVALUATION OF REPORTS OR ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE CONDUCTED LIKE THIS. THE CRITICISM IS THAT IT'S JUST ANOTHER REPORT THAT WILL SIT ON THE WALL.

I MEAN, SIT ON THE SHELF AND THAT WE WON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, TAKE HEED OF SOME OF THE THINGS, THE FINDINGS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT REPORT.

SO WE HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TO REALLY HEED DOCTOR TEST HIS FINDINGS AND TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS THAT THESE DIVERSIONS ARE NOT WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE. HIS FINDING WAS THAT THE SYSTEM AS IT EXISTS NOW IS WHAT HE DESCRIBED AS FRAGMENTED.

THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PLAYERS, A SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY RUN IN A LINEAR FASHION, WHERE IT'S NOT JUST, OKAY, NOW YOU'RE READY FOR THE NEXT STEP, NOW YOU'RE READY FOR THE NEXT STEP. SOMETIMES YOU'RE INTERACTING WITH ALL OF THOSE ENTITIES, INCLUDING SHERIFF'S OFFICE, INCLUDING PRETRIAL IN NOT ALWAYS IN THE IN THE SAME ORDER,

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AND THAT THIS PROCESS CAN LEAD TO ERRORS IN COMMUNICATION AMONGST THOSE DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

IT COULD DELAY TREATMENT FOR FOLKS WHO REALLY NEED MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IMMEDIATELY OR IN A TIMELY FASHION, AND IT CAN CREATE SOME INCONSISTENCIES WITH HOW THESE FOLKS ARE TREATED.

AND IT CAN ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO A DECREASE IN APPROPRIATE CARE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRESTED, WHICH IN ADDITION, PLACES A BURDEN ON BECAUSE STAFF CAN CAUSE DELAYS IN CLASSIFICATION AND OTHER OTHER ISSUES THAT THAT CAN IT CAN CREATE IN THE JAIL ENVIRONMENT. SO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ARE MAKING BASED ON DOCTOR TEST IS INPUT.

HIS REPORT AND IN CONSULTATION WITH HIS TEAM IS TO INTEGRATE THIS PROCESS FOR CONDUCTING MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE ASSESSMENTS UNDER ONE PROVIDER.

SO THE PROVIDER THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE, THAT IS DOING THE PHYSICAL AND MEDICAL ASSESSMENTS OR THE UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM, AND THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY AND THE FUNCTIONALITY TO CONDUCT MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE ASSESSMENTS AND THEN TO REFER DISCHARGE CHARGED TO APPROPRIATE CARE IN THE OUTPATIENT SETTING.

ADDITIONALLY, THE INTRODUCTION OF A SUBSTANCE USE SCREENER IN THE INTAKE PROCESS THAT WOULD ALSO BE ADMINISTERED BY CIVILIAN STAFF AT US.

THE CURRENT IMPLEMENTATION FOR IDD ASSESSMENT THAT IS CONDUCTED BY ACOG IS OPERATING APPROPRIATELY.

IT'S MEETING EXPECTATIONS. IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POPULATION THAN THAN THE MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE POPULATION.

SO WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING A CHANGE IN THAT PROVIDER.

WHAT WILL THIS ACCOMPLISH? OUR PRIORITY IS TO THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE CARE, ASSESSMENT AND CARE. AND SO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING THOSE FOLKS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE AND PROVIDING APPROPRIATE TREATMENT WHEN THEY ARE BOOKED INTO THE JAIL AND THEN WHEN THEY ARE RELEASED WE FEEL LIKE THE SCREENING WILL HELP DO THAT IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE COORDINATED TREATMENT UNDER ONE PROVIDER AND ADDITIONALLY US ALREADY, SINCE IT ALREADY EXISTS THERE IN THE JAIL. THEY HAVE AN EMR. IT'S CALLED EPIC ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORD, WHICH COULD ALSO LINK THESE FOLKS TO SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY AT ANY OF THE US FACILITIES THAT PROVIDE THESE SERVICES. SO CURRENTLY, THIS IS THE LINE ITEM BUDGET THAT EXISTS TO FUND THESE SERVICES.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THE STAFFING PIECE, THE CLINICIANS, IS JUST ONE PART OF THE LINE ITEM BUDGET.

OUR RECOMMENDATION ONLY DEALS WITH THAT PIECE.

TO JUST HAVE US TAKE OVER THE STAFFING PORTION SO THAT THEY CAN CONDUCT THESE MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS.

THE REST OF THESE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY US.

AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE RECOMMENDED MOTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DIRECT US STAFF TO ALSO WORK WITH US TO ENSURE THAT THESE SERVICES WILL STILL BE PROVIDED BY CHC, JUST UNDER A DIFFERENT CONTRACT.

SO REALLY JUST KIND OF SEPARATING OUT THAT STAFFING PIECE. THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

YOU'LL SEE THAT US IS PROPOSING TO MOVE TO EIGHT CLINICIANS AS OPPOSED TO THE 11 THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED.

ONE SUPERVISOR AND FOR DISCHARGE EXPEDITED. DISCHARGE EXPEDITED IS REALLY JUST NAVIGATORS THAT CAN HELP MAKE APPOINTMENTS AND HELP PEOPLE GET DISCHARGE MORE EFFICIENTLY SO THAT CLINICAL STAFF CAN DO CLINICAL THINGS AND ANNUAL ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS TO, TO MAINTAIN EPIC, WHICH IS THEIR EMR, $200,000. SO THE TOTAL BUDGETED IS A LITTLE OVER 1.2 MILLION.

SO AGAIN, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS EVEN WITH THIS CHANGE.

WE WE BEXAR COUNTY, PUBLIC HEALTH, BEXAR COUNTY AS AN ENTITY WOULD STILL LIKE TO WORK WITH CHCS TO PROVIDE ALL OF THESE OUTPATIENT SERVICES OUTSIDE OF THE JAIL THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUALLY CONTINUE TO OFFER THESE COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR DIVERTED PERSONS THAT THEY WOULD ALSO HELP WITH COORDINATION OF DIVERSION APPOINTMENTS ON A 24 HOUR REFERRAL LINE. CONTINUE TO ASSIST WITH COURT ORDERED SB 1326 CIRCUMSTANCES AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ALL SERVICES.

ONCE SOMEONE IS RELEASED FROM THE GIA, AS OUTLINED IN A REVISED CONTRACT FOR PEOPLE RECEIVING PR BONDS, INCLUDING INTAKE, APPOINTMENTS AND TRANSPORTATION, WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE. SO OUR RECOMMENDED MOTION AT THIS TIME IS TO AUTHORIZE TO ASK YOU TO AUTHORIZE OUR DEPARTMENT TO NEGOTIATE WITH US, TO SERVE AS THE CONTRACTOR, TO PROVIDE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AT THE GIA, AND TO DIRECT US TO WORK WITH US ON A REVISED SCOPE OF WORK RELATED TO THE OTHER OUTPATIENT SERVICES.

ALL RIGHT, DOCTOR G, LET ME ASK YOU TO STEP ASIDE.

WE HAVE A CITIZEN TO BE HEARD. ALISON GREER. FRANCIS, DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? I'LL HURRY. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. I'M ALISON GREER. FRANCIS. I WORK FOR THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY IN BEXAR COUNTY IN SAN ANTONIO.

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I WANT TO TAKE YOU BACK A LITTLE BIT AND I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON YOU.

2017 SENATE BILL 292 WAS PASSED. IT WAS PART OF AN OMNIBUS GROUP OF BILLS THAT REPRESENTATIVE FOR PRICE WROTE IN RESPONSE TO THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON MENTAL HEALTH THAT WAS THAT WAS FORMED BY SPEAKER JOE STRAUS.

AND BOY, DO WE MISS BOTH OF THOSE GUYS. PART OF SENATE BILL 292 WAS ORIGINALLY HOUSE BILL 12.

IT WAS FOR JUSTICE INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS. IT LOOKED LIKE IT WASN'T GOING TO PASS.

AND IN THE LAST SECOND IT WAS AMENDED ON TO SENATE BILL 292.

AND THAT BECAME THE BASIS OF THE JAIL DIVERSION CONTINUUM THAT WE KNOW IN BEXAR COUNTY.

INITIALLY, IT INCLUDED ACT AND FACT TEAMS. THOSE ARE THOSE COMMUNITY BASED, INTENSIVE PROGRAMS FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS WITH SMI.

IT ALSO INCLUDED THE ASSESSORS AT G. THAT DOCTOR G WAS WAS TALKING ABOUT.

AND INITIALLY IT FUNDED A CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT THAT WAS FIRST AT THE NYX HOSPITAL.

IT CLOSED. THEN WE MOVED IT TO TEXAS VISTA. THAT CLOSED.

HHS SAID YOU CAN TAKE THOSE DOLLARS AND YOU CAN HAVE 15 MENTAL HEALTH INPATIENT BEDS.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE CONTINUUM LOOKS LIKE NOW. IT'S THE ACTING TEAM, IT'S ASSESSORS, AND IT'S THOSE 15 INPATIENT BEDS.

PART OF SB 292 ALSO REQUIRED A 1 TO 1 MATCH, A 1 TO $1 MATCH, AND YOUR GENERAL FUND CONTRACT IS THE MATCH FOR 292.

SO IF YOU DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF THE GENERAL FUND CONTRACT, AND I KNOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A COST SAVING MEASURE, YOU WILL PUT THE ENTIRE JAIL DIVERSION PROGRAM AT RISK BECAUSE WE NO LONGER.

AND WHEN I SAY WE, I DON'T MEAN US. I MEAN THE CITY, THE COUNTY, ALL OF THE LOCAL HOSPITALS, YOUR STRAT PARTNERS, ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED IN THIS INITIAL CONVERSATION.

YOU PUT THAT CONTINUUM OF CARE AT RISK BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAVE THE SAME DOLLAR MATCH THAT WE NEED FOR SENATE BILL 292 PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, ANYBODY? NO. NO QUESTIONS ON CITIZENS BE HERE.

OH. LET ME. SO. OKAY, MR. FRANCIS, TO STEP BACK.

LET ME ASK THE THE COURT TO NOW OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU. ALISON, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT THANK YOU.

I'M TRYING TO WORK THE COBWEBS OUT OF MY BRAIN.

THAT WAS MY LAST SESSION IN 2017. THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I WONDER IF YOU'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH ANYBODY AT UAH, OR DID YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP? I MEAN, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT AT RISK OF POTENTIALLY BEING OUT OF COMPLIANCE OR LOSING ANY TYPE OF STATE SUPPORT.

WELL, WE HAVE NOT HAD THIS CONVERSATION. I HAD NOT BEEN INFORMED PRIOR.

AND WHEN WE DID SPEAK TO CHC LAST WEEK TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS ITEM WOULD BE COMING TO COURT, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN INFORMED SPECIFICALLY OF WHICH OF OUR SERVICES ARE BEING USED AS THAT 1 TO 1 MATCH.

I DO KNOW OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE 1 TO 1 MATCH, BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY WHICH PART OF OUR GENERAL FUND CONTRACT OR ANY OTHER FUNDING IS USED AS A MATCH FOR THAT.

OKAY. TO THAT END, OUR PRIORITY AT THIS POINT IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE THE DATA, WHICH IS MUCH LOWER THAN EXPECTED.

AND LOOKING AT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO EFFECTIVELY DIVERT PEOPLE IN THE JAIL.

AND THAT IS WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON.

COMMISSIONER, I WOULD JUST POINT OUT YOU'RE STILL SPENDING 1.2 MILLION WITH US AS WELL.

RIGHT. AND SO THE BALANCE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT BUDGETED FOR THIS CONTRACT IS $4.8 MILLION.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO TO TRANSITION ABOUT 1.2.

SO THE BALANCE OF THAT, WE WOULD STILL NEGOTIATE WITH CDSS TO PROVIDE FOR THE OTHER LINE ITEM BUDGETS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE COMMUNITY IS STILL SPENDING THE MONEY.

YOU'RE JUST POINTING AT A DIFFERENT AGENCY FOR THE MATCH.

SO I GUESS TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRANSITION.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, IS IS IT GOING TO TAKE PLACE OVER A FEW WEEKS, A FEW MONTHS? I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS ARE STILL RELATIVELY FRESH WITH CHC ON THIS, RIGHT? WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH US TO SEE WHAT THEIR WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE.

BUT IF YOU APPROVE THIS ITEM TODAY, THEN WE WOULD.

BUT OUR FISCAL YEAR ENDS SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR DEADLINE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENSURING A SMOOTH TRANSITION.

YEAH. AND I THINK THE MAIN CONCERN IS JUST THE THE THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. BUT BUT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE, I MEAN, WE, WE SEE IS STILL A SIGNIFICANT PARTNER.

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THIS IS A PIECE OF THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE CONTINUING TO, TO VISIT SO THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT FALLS THROUGH THE CRACKS IN THE TRANSITION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YES. THE GOAL WOULD BE TO NOT HAVE A GAP IN SERVICE IN ANY COMPONENT OF THIS PROCESS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THANK YOU. SO TYPICALLY US DOESN'T REALLY ENTER THAT MENTAL HEALTH SPACE.

THEY HAVE TOLD THE COURT THAT THEY DON'T LIKE TO ENTER IT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF COMPENSATION IN THAT SPACE.

SO HOW DID WE GET HOW DID WE GET TO THEM BEING THE SPECIALISTS IN THIS SPACE.

DO THEY HIRE OUTSIDE OR MAYBE BRING INSIDE PEOPLE IN? I MEAN, HOW IS THAT WORKING? RIGHT? SO I MENTIONED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE OF THE PRESENTATION IS THAT US IS OUR CURRENT PROVIDER OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

ONCE SOMEONE HAS BEEN BOOKED UPSTAIRS INTO THE MAIN JAIL.

SO THEY THEY ARE THEY PROVIDE MEDICATION. THEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REGULAR CONTACT WITH THEM ABOUT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES, HAVE DONE SOME DIVERSIONS THEMSELVES OR SORT OF AD HOC WHEN IT'S NECESSARY.

SO THIS IS A SPACE THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE TRANSITIONING TO.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THAT IF IT'S DEALING WITH MEDICATION, YOU'RE DEALING WITH SOMEONE WITH A DEGREE OR SOMETHING IN PSYCHIATRY, WHICH CAN HAPPEN WITH MULTIPLE ENTITIES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEIR INSTITUTION A MENTAL HEALTH INSTITUTION.

RIGHT. AND. SO WE HAVE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL HAD WE NOT AT LEAST HAD A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION TO SAY IS, IS THIS A FUNCTION THAT YOU CAN PERFORM AND THEY ARE MOVING INTO A MENTAL HEALTH SPACE? I THINK THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE NEW BUILDING AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH BUILDING WILL BE SPECIFICALLY FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

SO IT'S A SPACE THAT THEY'RE MOVING INTO. AND ADDITIONALLY THEY HAVE I'M SORRY I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

THEY I'M SORRY I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. OKAY.

I THINK THE LARGER ISSUE IS THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY TO THE CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES.

IT'S NOT BEEN WHERE IT SHOULD BE. AND AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.

I THINK IT STARTED WITH OUR DELAY OF PAYMENTS AND THE FRUSTRATION OF HAVING TO TAKE OUT LOANS IN ORDER TO MAKE CONTRACTS WORK.

I'M SURE THAT'S STILL HAPPENING. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT PROBABLY A DOZEN OTHER CONTRACTORS HAVE TOLD ME, INCLUDING IN THE MENTAL HEALTH SPACE, WHO ARE SUBCONTRACTORS.

SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN STOP THROWING SHADE AT THE CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES FOR WHATEVER PERSONAL DISAGREEMENTS ARE HAPPENING, AND THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY ARE THE BEXAR COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH AGENCY, AND THEY REALLY SHOULD BE IN THAT LANE AND IN THAT NICHE.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THREE NEW HOSPITALS, MULTIPLE NEW CLINICS THAT US HAS THE STAFF FOR NOW, THIS. ALISON IN TERMS OF MAKING AND BRIDGING THE DIVIDE.

HOW DO YOU I MEAN, YOU YOU ALL ARE NOT LOOKING TO HAVE THESE FUNDS TAKEN AWAY.

YOU YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS WORK? SO A COUPLE OF POINTS THERE.

YES, COMMISSIONER. YOU ARE RIGHT. DOES NOT PROVIDE TREATMENT FOR SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS FOR SMI.

THEY DON'T THEY DON'T PROVIDE OUTPATIENT TREATMENT EITHER.

WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS WORK. OBVIOUSLY OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE MATCH BECAUSE OF THAT CONTINUUM OF CARE, IT FUNDS THE JAIL DIVERSION PROGRAM. THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.

AND ACCORDING TO MY OUR CEO, THE SUBSTITUTING US FOR US WILL NOT SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT.

BUT TO ANSWER YOU DIRECTLY DOES NOT PROVIDE SMI TREATMENT.

THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN THAT BUSINESS, NOR ARE THEY IN THE BUSINESS OF OUTPATIENT TREATMENT PROVIDING OUTPATIENT TREATMENT.

WELL, THIS WAS A COURT OF LAW, AND I WERE SETTING THIS CASE BEFORE ME.

I'D PUT THE TWO ENTITIES INTO A ROOM TO WORK IT OUT AND MEDIATE AND COME BACK WITH A BETTER SOLUTION.

SO I WOULD MOVE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL SOMETHING COULD BE WORKED OUT, BECAUSE I THINK THE WHOLE MENTAL HEALTH COMMUNITY IS WATCHING, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS. I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S IT'S IT SEEMS A LITTLE HALF BAKED, RIGHT? RIGHT. THERE'S A POINT OF ORDER. STOP.

THERE'S A MOTION TO THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? SO, BUT I WILL. I WILL NOT HAVE QUESTIONS. OKAY.

THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND TO TABLE, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

I'M GOING TO RESERVE MY VOTE HERE. I BUT I HATE BEING PUT LIKE IN THE SPOT.

RIGHT. AND I FEEL LIKE I'M NOW A BLACK ROBE JOE.

BLACK ROBE. JUDGE. TRYING TO INTERPRET DECISIONS OF FACT AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND ONE PERSON'S TELLING

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US ONE THING, SOMEBODY ELSE IS TELLING US ANOTHER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE. SO, ALLISON, CAN YOU SPEAK TO SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE MATCH AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO BEXAR COUNTY? OR IS THAT ONLY A CONCERN FOR ME? IT IS BEXAR COUNTY.

OKAY, SO THAT ARE THE SEPARATE. THOSE ARE THE JAIL DIVERSION PROGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE FOR BEXAR COUNTY. THAT IS NOT NOT JUST US.

THAT'S RIGHT. IT AFFECTS THE LOCAL HOSPITALS, THE JUDICIARY.

SO AN ASSISTED OUTPATIENT TREATMENT, THAT COURT ORDERED TREATMENT THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

WE HAVE A JAIL BASED COMPETENCY RESTORATION PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

SO IT'S IT'S BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENTS. IT'S NOT JUST US.

OKAY. I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. SO IN TERMS OF THE MATCH, WHAT'S THE MATCH REQUIREMENT NOW? NOW YOU'RE LOSING. I GUESS IT'S A ONE. IT'S A 1 TO 1 MATCH 2.8 MILLION.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO WE HAVE TO MATCH. WE HAVE A REQUIREMENTS TO MATCH.

WHAT. SO WHEN I SAY WE I MEAN THE CRISIS COLLABORATE I MEAN THE PARTNERS.

IT'S NOT JUST DCS, IT'S US. IT'S THE HOSPITALS.

IT'S EVERYBODY WHO PUT IN WHO HAS A SERVICE OR DOLLAR MATCH THAT IS REQUIRED.

THAT THAT IS WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR SENATE BILL 292.

COMMISSIONER, JUST ONE THING. SHE'S NOT LOSING 4.8 MILLION.

UNDER THIS, SHE'S LOSING ABOUT 1.1 MILLION. RIGHT? WE'RE CONTINUING TO CONTRACT WITH HER FOR ALL THE REST OF THAT LIST OF SERVICES ON THE SLIDE, ALL THE OUTPATIENT STUFF. WE DON'T HAVE A 2024 CONTRACT.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT. I MEAN, A 2025 CONTRACT, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT.

AND OUR FISCAL YEAR EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO UPSET OUR, OUR BUSINESS AND OUR TIMELINE HERE, BUT, I MEAN, AGAIN, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE I KNOW WHAT INFORMATION TO TO TO LEAN ON HERE.

I'M GETTING DIFFERENT INFORMATION. I'D LIKE TO HAVE STAFF JUST COME BACK NEXT WEEK.

WE'RE GOING TO MEET NEXT WEEK. AND WE COULD REVISIT THIS.

AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC IMPACT ON THE COUNTY.

AND WE CAN PUT IT ON 1 OR 2 SLIDES AND THEN WE CAN KNOW WHAT'S FACT BASED.

WE CAN CITE IT SPECIFICALLY. YES, SIR. AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING BEFORE THAT MEETING AS WELL.

GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER CALVIN. I HAVE A REAL JUDGE.

I HAVE A REAL CONCERN OVER WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT FOR PEOPLE IN JAIL, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPER EXPERIENCE WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, GETTING THIS RIGHT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

YES, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. SO IF, IF, IF, IF THIS IS HALF BAKED, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD IMPACT. AND WHEN YOU SAY THE IMPACT TO OUR PARTNERS COURT THAT IS COST IN HOSPITAL STAYS AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER IMPACTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE TO BE EVALUATED AS TO WHETHER WE'RE READY.

MAYBE THEY'RE READY. MAYBE THEY'RE NOT. IT'S NOT EXACTLY CLEAR TO ME, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN MADE CLEAR TO ME IN THE PAST IS THE AVERSION TO DEALING IN THIS SPACE THAT CONCERNS ME, THAT CONCERNS ME. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A DEAL BROKERED, BUT IT IS.

THERE'S SOME GAPS. THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME SERVICE GAPS HERE.

AND WE NEED TO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THOSE WHO ARE SPECIALISTS IN PARTICULAR AREAS AND MOVE FORWARD AND CHECK OUR EGOS AT THE DOOR.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I SAY. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. COMMISSIONER. OH YES. THANK YOU JUDGE.

WE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IT'S A MOTION TO TABLE.

WE DID HAVE A PRIOR MOTION. A MOTION THAT. NO, NO I DIDN'T.

YEAH. SO THE MOTION OF THE TABLE IS ON THE FLOOR.

AND LOOK, I I'M OKAY IF WE WANT TO DELAY IT. I'M ALSO COMFORTABLE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LACK OF COMMUNICATION.

I KNOW THERE'S ALSO SOME, YOU KNOW, HISTORY WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH PAYMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT DOESN'T HELP. BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, 2019, I KNOW UNIVERSITY HEALTH HAS BEEN PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM.

I KNOW WHEN JUDGE WOLF WAS HERE, WE PUT SOME ADDITIONAL, I THINK IT WAS 5 OR $6 MILLION IN MY FIRST BUDGET.

7 MILLION IN MY FIRST BUDGET, SPECIFICALLY FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

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SO THERE'S EXPERTISE THERE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNICATION. AND SO I'M OKAY IF WE WANT TO JUST BRING IT BACK.

BUT BUT YOU KNOW, I'M ALSO COMFORTABLE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

YOU GUYS WORK IT OUT, RIGHT? AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT NEXT, NEXT WEEK, IF WE CAN.

I THINK, COMMISSIONER, WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS LAST FRIDAY. SO STOP.

THANK YOU. SIR. WE GOT. I GOT A CALL FOR A VOTE.

OR UNLESS I HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENT BY COMMISSIONERS? JUST ONE MORE COMMENT. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY ANY ISSUE WITH US MOVING THIS CONTRACT, EVEN IF IT MEANS SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR BEXAR COUNTY. I SEE WE DO IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY I'M HEARING FOR THE FIRST TIME, LIKE CONCERNS THEY'RE BEING RAISED IN COURT THAT I THINK COUNTY STAFF NEEDS TO PROVIDE LIKE REBUTTAL TO AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT DECISION ACCURATELY WITH CONFIDENCE.

SO I STAND BY PUSHING IT A WEEK. ALL RIGHT. I'M CALLING FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS AGENDA? ITEM 83. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. MOTION. NOW, THE QUESTION I HAVE.

WHEN DO WE TABLE IT? WE HAVE A MEETING SET FOR NEXT WEEK.

IS THAT. CAN WE PUT IT, MR. SMITH? THOMAS, I SAY WE DO THE 19TH.

THE 19TH? YEAH. GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME. 19TH.

SO, STAFF, YOU'RE INSTRUCTED TO PUT AGENDA ITEM 83 ON THE 19TH MEETING.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY. OKAY. AS WE MOVE ALONG, WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF AGENDA ITEM 84. CORRECT.

KATE? YES. SO NOW WE TAKE UP THE LATE FILE. CAN I GET A GROUP OR WHAT IS IT? A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LATE FILE FOR AGENDA ITEM 85, 86 AND 87.

IS THERE A MOTION TO TAKE THEM UP? SO MOVED. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. MOTION CARRIES.

LET US NOW TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM 85, A APPROVAL OF REQUEST FROM COMMISSION COMMISSIONER COUNTY JUDGE PETER SAKAI TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING

[85. Discussion and appropriate action related to granting an exception to Administrative Policy 1.2 to authorize the consideration of the following late filed Agenda Item #85a. a. Approval of a request from County Judge Peter Sakai to appoint the following individual(s) to the listed board and commissions for the terms specified:]

INDIVIDUALS TO THE LIST OF BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR THE TERMS SPECIFIED. BEXAR COUNTY AND HOUSING AUTHORITY HAROLD OLIVER.

DATE OF APPOINTMENT EIGHT FIVE 2025. TERM EXPIRED EIGHT 527.

HE IS REPLACING ROBERT A, WHERE MEYER IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. MOTION CARRIES. LET US NOW TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM 86, A APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH MAYNARD

[86. Discussion and appropriate action related to granting an exception to Administrative Policy 1.2 to authorize the consideration of the following late filed Agenda Item #86a. a. Approval of a professional services agreement with Maynard Nexsen, PC. for professional legal services in connection with a U.S. Department of Labor wage and hour issue related to the Bexar County Sheriff's Office in an amount not to exceed $30,000 without further amendment of the agreement.]

NIXON, PC, FOR PROFESSIONAL LEGAL SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH U.S.

DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. WAGE AND HOUR ISSUE RELATED TO THE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $30,000 WITHOUT FURTHER AMENDMENT OF THE AGREEMENT.

I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED PRIOR MEETINGS, MR. ROBERSON. ROBERTSON? YES, JUDGE. THE COURT HAD ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THIS PARTICULAR FIRM AND THE ATTORNEY IS HELPING US NAVIGATE AN ISSUE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT THEY WERE INVESTIGATING AN ISSUE RAISED BY AN EMPLOYEE COMPLAINT.

AND THIS AGREEMENT IS JUST FOR AN APPROVED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION? MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM 87 A, I PRESUME FOR PURPOSES OF CLARIFICATION, MR.

[87. Discussion and appropriate action related to granting an exception to Administrative Policy 1.2 to authorize the consideration of the following late filed Agenda Item #87a. a. Approval and appropriate action regarding the following items: i. Deobligate unexpended Program Year 2023 Emergency Solutions Grant (ESG) funds in the amount $30,947.30 from San Antonio Metropolitan Ministries Inc. (SAMMinistries). ii. Proposed reprogramming action utilizing unexpended Program Year 2023 Emergency Solutions Grant (ESG) funds from San Antonio Metropolitan Ministries Inc. (SAMMinistries) in the amount of $30,947.30 to Catholic Charities Archdiocese of San Antonio, Inc. (Catholic Charities). iii. Execution of the Program Year 2023 Subrecipient Agreement between Bexar County and Catholic Charities Archdiocese of San Antonio, Inc. (Catholic Charities) in the amount of $30,947.30 for the administration of an ESG-funded Homelessness Prevention Program.]

ROBERSON WILL TAKE UP ALL THREE TOGETHER. OR DO WE NEED TO TAKE THEM UP SEPARATELY? JUDGE, THEY'VE BEEN IN AGENDA INDIVIDUALLY, SO I WOULD TAKE THEM UP.

OKAY. BUT WE'LL TAKE THEM UP INDIVIDUALLY. DISCUSS APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO GRANT.

TO APPROVE AN APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ITEM WILL TAKE UP FIRST THE OBLIGATE UNEXPECTED PROGRAM.

YEAR 2023. EMERGENCY SOLUTION SOLUTIONS GRANT FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,947.30 FROM SAN ANTONIO METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES, INC.. SAM MINISTRIES IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY EXTENSION? MOTION CARRIES.

SECOND MOTION OR SECOND AGENDA ITEM. PROPOSED REPROGRAMING ACTION UTILIZING UNEXPECTED PROGRAM YEAR 2023 EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT FUNDS FROM SAN ANTONIO METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES, INC..

SAM MINISTRIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,947.30 TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES.

ARCHDIOCESE OF SAN ANTONIO, INC.. CATHOLIC CHARITIES.

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IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM THREE.

EXECUTION OF PROGRAM YEAR 2023. SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF THE ARCHDIOCESE OF SAN ANTONIO.

CATHOLIC CHARITIES, IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,947.30 FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE ESG FUNDED HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION PROGRAM.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MR. REYNA, DO YOU NEED TO HAVE.

DO YOU NEED TO SAY ANYTHING? THANK YOU. ROBERT.

THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SHORT, CONCISE. THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE IT. THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. ROBERTSON, I BELIEVE THE LAST PART IS TO GO TO OUR SECOND EXECUTIVE SESSION.

88 AND 88 FOR US. OKAY, SO 88 AGENDA ITEM IS BEING DROPPED.

IS THAT THE REQUEST BY THE DA'S OFFICE? YES, JUDGE.

SO IT'S 88 AND 89 A YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THOSE ITEMS. THE ONLY REMAINING ITEMS ARE 89 B AND 90 AND I BELIEVE AND THEN WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANY ACTION ITEM. SO FROM EXECUTIVE, WE SHOULD COME OUT, REOPEN AND GO TO MOTION TO ADJOURN, I BELIEVE.

CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE AFTER THIS, COMMISSIONER.

SO LET US NOW GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WHERE'S MY NOTES?

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LET'S SEE, THE COURT WILL NOT CONVENE. IF TIME IS NOW, 358 WILL CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM MAY BE DISCUSSED AND ACTED UPON, IF APPROPRIATE. IN AN OPEN SECTION.

WE WILL HAVE UNDER SECTION 551071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY FOR ADVICE REGARDING.

BE A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT AT THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH CHAPTER 551 IN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SPECIFICALLY ONE LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPUTY SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION OF BEXAR COUNTY AND ENTERED INTO PURSUANT CHAPTER 174 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND ACCORDING TO 551076 DELIBERATIONS RELATED SECURITY MATTERS A PRECINCT FOR FACILITY SECURITY ASSESSMENT AT FIRST ENTRY SAFE, LOCATED AT 8734 ROCKET LANE, CONVERSE, TEXAS 78150.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY MATTERS TO TAKE UP AN EXECUTIVE AT THIS TIME, CORRECT, MR. ROBERSON? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO ONCE THE COURTROOM IS CLEARED.

MR. ROBERSON, YOU'LL HAVE THE FLOOR. ARE WE OKAY? WE'RE BACK. SO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS CLOSED.

WE TAKE NO ACTION. ON THE SECOND EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

GO AHEAD AND REPEAT. THANK YOU. JUDGE AND ADJOURNMENT.

I HAVE A FEW FOLKS I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THEIR NAME.

CAROL HALL, NANCY RODRIGUEZ, GLORIA DE LA PENA, ARTHUR CARVAJAL SALAS, MARIA SANCHEZ.

AND OF COURSE, THIS MORNING WE HONORED FLACO JIMENEZ AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF SHIRLEY COOPER AND CHUCK SASSER.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT. THANK YOU. JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN HONOR OF JOSE PEPE SANCHEZ.

ADAN, JUSTIN MARTINEZ, MISS MARSHALL, YOLANDA WILLIAMS, AND ANTHONY RAY ALL ADJOURN AND MOVE TO ADJOURN.

IN REGARDS TO, OBVIOUSLY, MY DEAR FRIEND FLACO JIMENEZ, BUT ALSO KIMBERLY KIM FOX, A LONG TIME COURT NEWS REPORTER FOR EXPRESS NEWS WHO I SERVED WITH AS A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE. HER SECOND CAREER AS A TEXAS STATE PROFESSOR OF JOURNALISM.

ALSO, ANTHONY TONY CONSTANZO, 50 YEARS OF EDUCATOR IN NORTHEAST INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, SUPERINTENDENT OF ISD AND LATER EAST CENTRAL AND COMAL ISD.

ALSO TO PAULA HARMON DAVIS, WHO WAS THE OWNER AND PROPRIETOR OF DOC HARMON'S THEIR OLD HEALTH FOOD STORE IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO, AND ALEX MCDANIELS, WHO WAS A CHURCHILL HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE AND FORMER USAA EMPLOYEE.

HE SAID OF THE FAMILY TO MARY ELLEN VELEZ, FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF FOR CONGRESSMAN DOGGETT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO ADJOURN SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY OBJECTION? MOTION ADJOURNED.

I'LL REMIND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE IN REGARDS TO THE FLOODING DRAINAGE PROJECT WE APPROVED AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO I'LL. WE'LL RETIRE TO THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

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Y'ALL ARE ALL INVITED TO ATTEND. SOUNDS FUN.

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