May 27, 2025 Commissioners Court

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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING FOR MAY 27TH, 2025.

[1. Opening Prayer: Pastor John Garland from San Antonio Mennonite Church (Rebeca Clay-Flores)]

IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE PASTOR GARLAND.

PASTOR GARLAND, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD. PASTOR JOHN GARLAND HAS SERVED AS THE PASTOR OF SAN ANTONIO MENNONITE CHURCH FOR THE PAST DECADE.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS, IT IS ACROSS FROM BRACKENRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHERE HE HAS LED HIS COMMUNITY IN OFFERING LONG TERM HOSPITALITY TO IMMIGRANTS NAVIGATING TRAUMA AND DISPLACEMENT. A SCHOLAR OF THE PSALMS, THE ANCIENT PRAYER BOOK OF THE BIBLE, PASTOR GARLAND FOLLOWS SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES ROOTED IN THE REALITIES OF SUFFERING, HEALING, AND BELONGING. HE'S ALSO THE FATHER OF TWO TEENAGE DAUGHTERS AND AN AVID ROCK CLIMBER, PASTOR GARLAND ATTENDED BAYLOR UNIVERSITY AND WILL BE RECEIVING HIS DOCTORATE LATER THIS YEAR. PASTOR, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR SERVING RIGHT ACROSS FROM MY HIGH SCHOOL.

AND ALSO, I JUST APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO WITH IMMIGRANTS.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DEAR TO MY HEART? SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO AND THE TIME IS YOURS.

LET US TURN TO GOD IN PRAYER. GOD, WE OPEN OUR MINDS TO YOU.

WE OPEN OUR HEARTS TO YOU. WE OPEN OUR SOULS TO YOU IN GRATITUDE THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GIFT OF LIFE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STUNNING GIFT OF RAIN LAST NIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE ABUNDANCE AND ALL THE BLESSING THAT YOU SHOWER ON US.

AND GOD, THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE WHO TEND TO THOSE BLESSINGS, ALL THOSE WHO TEND TO THE FLOWING WATERS, ALL THOSE WHO TEND TO THE ABUNDANCE THAT YOU OFFER US.

GOD, THANK YOU FOR THIS COURT. AND THANK YOU FOR THESE SERVANTS OF THE COUNTY, THESE SERVANTS OF YOUR PEOPLE.

AND WE CALL A BLESSING ON IT. WE CALL A BLESSING OF YOUR WISDOM, A BLESSING OF YOUR WORD ON THIS COURT.

AND I LIFT UP EACH OF THESE LEADERS, THESE COMMISSIONERS, OUR JUDGE.

WE TURN TO THEM WITH TRUST. WE ENTRUST THEM WITH ABUNDANCE.

WE ENTRUST IN THEM DECISIONS. WE CALL THEM LEADERS.

WE CALL THEM POLITICIANS. WE THROW OUR IRE AT THEM AND OUR EXPECTATION, OUR ADULATION AND OUR HOPE. BUT, GOD, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE HUMANS.

AND WE ASK A BLESSING ON EACH OF THEM AND ALL THAT THEY ARE HOLDING IN THEIR MINDS AND THEIR BODIES AND THEIR HEARTS, THEIR ANXIETIES, THEIR STRUGGLES, THEIR HOPES.

YOU SEE THEM AS YOUR CHILDREN, AND WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THEM AND GIVE THEM WISDOM.

AND ALL OF THE STAFF MEMBERS, ALL THE FOLKS WHO WORK IN THIS BUILDING AT THE EDGE OF THE SCENES, BEHIND THE SCENES, LET THEM EXPERIENCE THE GIFT OF BEING SEEN, THE GIFT OF THEIR SOULS RESONATING IN THE GIFT OF VOCATION AND CALLING AND SERVICE AND GOD. WE ASK A BLESSING THIS MORNING ON THIS COUNTY AND ALL OF YOUR PEOPLE.

IT IS A PLACE FLOWING WITH RICHES AND FLOWING WITH OPPORTUNITY.

IT IS ALSO A PLACE OVERWHELMED BY FEAR AND VIOLENCE AND POVERTY AND ABUSE AND ALL THE RICHES. GOD CAN BE DISTRACTING AND ALL OF THE NEEDS ARE ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMING.

AND SO WE CALL ON YOUR WISDOM. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE THIS BODY, THAT YOU WOULD SPEAK THROUGH THIS BODY, THAT YOU WOULD COMFORT THIS BODY AND EMPOWER THIS BODY AND GOD.

I ALSO WANT TO VERY SPECIFICALLY CALL A BLESSING ON THIS COURT'S OUTREACH TO THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM CANCER, THOSE WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY ARE BATTLING THIS SILENT AND DIVISIVE AND DESTRUCTIVE DISEASE.

I ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THESE COURT MEMBERS AND THESE STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE REACHING OUT TO THIS COMMUNITY TO SHED LIGHT, TO SHED HOPE, AND TO BRING HEALING. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, GOD, WE GIVE THANKS.

WE GIVE THANKS FOR ALL THE SERVANT HEARTS WHO HAVE GATHERED HERE, YOUR PRECIOUS CHILDREN, AND WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD INFUSE THIS ROOM AND THIS SPACE WITH YOUR WISDOM.

IN CHRIST'S NAME I PRAY. BY YOUR GRACE, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN.

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THANK YOU, PASTOR GARLAND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

WE'LL TAKE UP PRESENTATION OF SERVICEMEN RECOGNIZING EMPLOYEES FOR 25 YEARS PLUS YEARS OF SERVICE.

[3. CEREMONIAL ITEM(S)]

I APOLOGIZE, BUT IT APPEARS THAT MR. AKERS WAS NOT ABLE TO JOIN US THIS MORNING. OKAY, WELL, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD, AND JUST FOR PURPOSE OF THE RECORD, JUST SAY SOMETHING ON BEHALF OF MR. AKERS AS IF HE WERE STANDING BEFORE US.

WHAT DOES HE DO? AND HOW MANY YEARS OF SERVICE? AND I PRESUME HE'S AN EMPLOYEE IN GOOD STANDING.

ABSOLUTELY. MR. AKERS, MR. JAMES AKERS ACTUALLY STARTED WITH THE BEXAR COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE AS AN INTERN.

WE THEN HIRED HIM ON AS AN INVESTIGATOR. HE HAS SINCE BECOME A SENIOR INVESTIGATOR WITH OUR OFFICE.

HE IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY ONE OF THE INVESTIGATORS WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR QUALITY ASSURANCE AND IDENTIFYING AND LOCATING NEXT OF KIN FOR OUR OFFICE. HE WAS ALSO A MEMBER OF ONE OF THE TWO INVESTIGATIVE TEAMS THAT WE SENT TO THE QUINTANA ROAD TRAGEDY.

MR. AKERS IS AN EXCELLENT INVESTIGATOR. HE SERVES THE CITIZENS OF BEXAR COUNTY WELL, AND IS VERY DEDICATED TO THE FAMILIES THAT WE SERVE.

HE IS ALSO VERY WELL RESPECTED BY HIS PEERS AND BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND WORKS WELL AND IS VERY PROFESSIONAL WITH OUR TEAMS. SO I APOLOGIZE THAT HE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT WE ARE VERY HONORED TO HAVE MR. AKERS AS PART OF OUR TEAM. AND DOCTOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF JAMES LEWIS AKERS? AND COULD WE GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE? ALL RIGHT.

YOU MUST BE SO DEDICATED. HE'S. YEAH, HE'S WORKING RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT IS. ALL RIGHT. OUR SECOND RECOGNITION IS NANCY S LEWIS.

35 PLUS YEARS WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS HERE IN FORCE, SO PLEASE STEP FORWARD. SHERIFF SALAZAR, AND RECOGNIZE YOUR DEDICATED EMPLOYEE.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. JUDGE. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR INVITING US IN THIS MORNING. YES.

WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT A 35 YEAR CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE TO MRS. NANCY LEWIS. STARTED HER CAREER IN MAY OF 1990 APPARENTLY AT THE AGE OF 33 YEARS OLD.

RIGHT. SHE STARTED AS AN INMATE BOOKING CLERK WORKED AS A BANKING CLERK, WORKED IN THE BUSINESS OFFICE AS A CLERK AND COURT SECURITY.

WHERE SHE'S CURRENTLY WORKING IN A CIVILIAN ROLE.

CERTIFICATES INCLUDE THE BEXAR COUNTY LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FOR BUSINESS WRITING, 2008. ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY RADIATION SAFETY DIVISION, TOOLS FOR SUCCESS IN 2017.

LETTER OF COMMENDATION IN 2008 FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

AUDIT. SHE'S A GRADUATE OF SIDNEY LANIER HIGH SCHOOL AND GRADUATED ALSO FROM THE DICKINSON BUSINESS SCHOOL WITH A GRADUATION CERTIFICATE. SHE IS MARRIED TO CURTIS LEWIS, WHO WAS A DEPUTY SHERIFF FOR 34 YEARS, RETIRED AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPUTY AFTER 30 YEARS WITH US, AND HE WAS A SERGEANT AND HE ALSO A SERGEANT IN THE MILITARY.

HER CHILDREN CASSANDRA, 28, IS A GRADUATE OF UNIVERSITY OF INCARNATE WORD.

DOUBLE MAJOR KATRINA, 25 YEARS OF AGE. WEST TEXAS A&M WITH HER MASTERS IN 2025.

SHE'LL BE GRADUATING VERY SOON. CATHERINE. SHE'S 22.

GRADUATE, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, 2025 WITH A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN ARTS AND BIOLOGY.

AND SHE ENJOYS MAKING THE MOST OF HER TIME WITH HER DAUGHTERS.

AND ADDITIONALLY, SHE LIKES TO COLLECT JEWELRY AND SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH HER, WITH HER HUSBAND AS WELL.

SO, NANCY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? OKAY.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT SINCE 35 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, ACTUALLY.

COMMISSIONER BURGESS. KATRINA, WHEN WAS YOUR DAUGHTER MARISSA TO ELEMENTARY? MADISON. YES. AND SHE JUST ACTUALLY. SHE GRADUATED WITH HER MASTER'S THIS MAY.

BOTH OF MY DAUGHTERS DID. I STARTED HERE WHEN I WAS THREE AS WELL. SO THAT'S HOW WE HAVE DAUGHTERS THE SAME AGE? YES, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS WILL BE A NEW CHAPTER FOR ME SINCE ALL MY GIRLS HAVE GRADUATED.

I FEEL IT'S GOING TO BE A PROMISING NEW YEAR FOR ME.

WHAT WILL I DO NOW? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING GOOD'S COMING UP FOR ME.

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WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND ACCEPT YOUR 35 YEAR PIN? OH, DO YOU HAVE. IT? I DO. SO SHE DON'T WANT TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS OKAY.

IS HER FAMILY HERE? MR. FAMILY. FAMILY? FRIENDS.

IS YOUR DAUGHTERS DAUGHTER'S HERE. ONE OF THEM.

WELL, LET'S GET ONE. YOUR HIGH COMMAND THERE, SHERIFF.

DO THEY WANT TO GET IN THE PICTURE? LET'S GO.

THERE WE GO, THERE WE GO, THERE WE GO.

THERE WE GO. OKAY. ONE. TWO. THREE.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, JUST KEEP WORKING, NANCY. KEEP WORKING.

HOW ABOUT THAT? DO WE HAVE A 40 YEAR PIN? THOMAS? DO WE HAVE A 40 PLUS? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT YEAR, I'M GOING TO YIELD TO COMMISSIONER CALVERT PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONER COURT RECOGNIZING MISS MISS MINNIE B BE APPLEWHITE'S 100TH BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION.

HER LIFETIME DEDICATION TO COMMUNITY SERVICE.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND RECOGNITION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

PRESENTATION. PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONER COURT RECOGNIZING THE LEGACY AND WORK OF MISS ETHEL TERESA GARDNER CARROLL, WHO LIVED TO BE 100 YEARS OLD. COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU. MR.. THANK YOU. JUDGE. I SEE MINNEAPOLIS IN THE BEAUTIFUL ROYAL PURPLE OVER THERE AND SHE IS MAKING HER WAY TO THE DAIS.

SHE'S SOMEONE I'VE KNOWN PROBABLY AT LEAST 30 YEARS IN MY LIFE BECAUSE SHE WAS SO ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AS YOU WILL SOON LEARN, SHE WAS A. MEMBER OF HARVARD PLACE EASTLAWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S FIRST ALLIANCE. AND HELP GET A LOT OF STREETS PAVED AND A LOT OF AREAS DONE.

COME ON UP, MRS. APPLEWHITE. WE'VE GOT THIS PROCLAMATION FOR YOU, AND SHE'S STILL DRY.

ARE YOU STILL DRIVING? MRS.. SHE'S JUST STOPPED DRIVING.

YEAH, WELL, SHE WAS DRIVING A VERY LONG TIME.

YEAH, AND YOU SAID. NEVER MIND. I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT ALONE.

THIS IS IN THE NAME BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF BEXAR COUNTY.

WE ARE SO HONORED TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION. IT READS.

WHEREAS MRS. MINNIE B APPLEWHITE, THROUGH HER STEADFAST DEVOTION AND EXEMPLARY BENEVOLENCE, HAS TIRELESSLY DEDICATED HER LIFE TO THE UPLIFT AND SERVICE OF HER COMMUNITY SINCE 1984, WHEN SHE ESTABLISHED THE UNDER THE BRIDGE MINISTRY WITH THE SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE AND LEADERSHIP OF HER THEN PASTOR, REVEREND J.J.

RECTOR SENIOR. AND WHEREAS, MRS. MINNIE B APPLEWHITE, A NATIVE DAUGHTER OF WINCHESTER, TEXAS, IS ONE OF THREE CHILDREN AND IS THE CHERISHED MATRIARCH OF AN EVER GROWING FAMILY, HAVING BEEN BLESSED WITH THE CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, AND GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WHO FOLLOW IN HER FOOTSTEPS.

WHEREAS SINCE 1956, MRS. APPLEWHITE HAS FAITHFULLY WORSHIPED AND SERVED IN HER HOME CHURCH, WHERE SHE HAS DIVINELY INSPIRED TO FOUND NO FEWER THAN FIVE ADDITIONAL MINISTRIES, NAMELY THE YOUTH MINISTRY, THE GARDEN MINISTRY, THE JJ USHER BOARD, SENIOR USHER MINISTRY AND THE JUNIOR MISSION SOCIETY, EACH OF WHICH CONTINUES TO FLOURISH AND ENRICH THE SPIRITUAL LIFE OF COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS.

AND WHEREAS, ON THE JOYOUS OCCASION OF HER 100TH BIRTHDAY, THE RESIDENTS OF BEXAR COUNTY, TOGETHER WITH THIS HONORABLE COURT WISH TO PAY TRIBUTE TO MRS. MINNIE B APPLEWHITE FOR HER MONUMENTAL LEGACY OF COMPASSION, CHARITY AND UNCEASING DEDICATION TO TO THE COMMUNITY'S WELL-BEING.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY RECOGNIZES AND CELEBRATES MRS. MINNIE BEE APPLEWHITE AND HER LIFETIME OF GIVING TO OTHERS.

WITNESS OUR SIGNATURES AND SEAL OF OFFICE THIS 27TH DAY OF MAY, 2025, SIGNED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT.

MRS. APPLEWHITE. DO YOU HAVE A WORD FOR US THIS MORNING? WELL, I HATE TO START OFF WITH A COMPLAINT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET A CERTAIN AGE, YOU DON'T HEAR.

AND I HEAR YOU, BUT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING.

I KNOW I'M TAKING YOUR TIME, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I DON'T HEAR ALL THIS GOING ON.

BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL TO YOU ALL TO OPEN YOUR DOORS FOR ME.

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WELL, I KNOW I'M HAPPY TO MAKE 100 AND I'VE HEARD IT THUNDER MANY TIMES AND I'VE SAW IT LIGHTNING.

BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL TO THE HEAVENLY FATHER FOR SPAN ME.

HE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT, BUT I'M GRATEFUL AND I'M SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT THINK ABOUT YOU EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. I THANK YOU AND I THANK YOU FOR MY FAMILY.

I THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY THAT EVEN TURNS A FAVOR TO ME, EVEN TO BRING ME A LITTLE DRINK OF WATER.

YOU KNOW, YOU THINK NOW THAT YOU DON'T NEED NOBODY.

BUT YOU SURE DO NEED SOMEBODY. LET ME TELL YOU WHEN YOU GET WELL.

THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO MUCH. COME ON UP. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S YEAH, SINCE YOU HAD TO WALK A MILE. GOOD MORNING, MISS APPLEWHITE.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. IT'S AN HONOR TO MEET YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. I LOVE YOUR PURPLE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS TURN AROUND.

RIGHT. THAT'S IT. WE'RE NOT IN THE PHOTO.

OKAY. SORRY. OKAY. ONE MORE, ONE MORE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU GUYS WANT TO GET IN WITH HER? ARE YOU FAMILY? DO YOU WANT TO GET A PICTURE? YEAH, I'M IN THE PICTURE.

COME ON. HE CAN. HE CAN TAKE IT. COME ON IN. WE ARE CELEBRATING.

YEAH.

YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH. YOU'RE ON TV. YOU'RE ON TV.

YOU TOOK SOMEONE PERSONAL. OKAY. YEAH. UNDER 202, 203. CENTURION. IS IT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF. OH, THERE'S EVELYN HARRISON.

OKAY. WE DO. SO, JUDGE, YOU WANT TO. YOU WANT TO CALL THE NEXT PROCLAMATION? JUDGE.

YES. PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONERS COURT.

RECOGNIZING THE LEGACY AND WORK OF MISS ETHEL TERESA GARDNER.

GARDNER CARROLL, WHO LIVED TO BE 100 YEARS OLD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. OH, WOW.

110. YES, YES, JUST PAST CORRECTED. BUT THE RECORD REFLECT 110 110.

YES. THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR THIS VERY HISTORICAL FIGURE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS PROCLAMATION READS. WHEREAS MRS. ETHEL THERESA GARDNER CARROLL, BORN ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 1914, IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, DEDICATED MORE THAN A QUARTER CENTURY OF HER LIFE TO CIVIL SERVICE AT KELLY AIR FORCE BASE, RISING FROM CLERK TYPIST TO SHEET METAL TECHNICIAN AND CONTRIBUTING TO U.S.

MILITARY READINESS THROUGH HER INNOVATIONS AND WORKMANSHIP.

AND WHEREAS MRS. CARROLL HELPED DESIGN A COST SAVING AIRCRAFT SCREW THAT IMPROVED EFFICIENCY IN MILITARY PLANE PRODUCTION AND MAINTENANCE, EARNING FORMAL RECOGNITION FROM THE US AIR FORCE AND LEAVING A LASTING LEGACY AS A BEHIND THE SCENES INVENTOR DURING A TIME WHEN FEW AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN HELD TECHNICAL ROLES IN THE DEFENSE SECTOR THROUGHOUT HER OVER 26 YEAR CIVIL SERVICE CAREER.

SHE RECEIVED MULTIPLE AWARDS FOR EXCELLENCE AND BECAME A TRAILBLAZER WHO OVERCAME SOCIAL BARRIERS IN A SEGREGATED WORKPLACE TO EARN THE RESPECT OF HER PEERS AND SUPERVISORS ALIKE. AND WHEREAS HER LIFELONG DEVOTION TO SERVICE EARNED HER NUMEROUS HONORS, INCLUDING THE ARCHBISHOP FRANCIS FUREY'S AWARD, THE LUMEN GENTIUM AWARD, AND RECOGNITION AS LADY OF THE YEAR BY THE KNIGHTS OF PETER CLAVER LADIES AUXILIARY. IN HER LATER YEARS, HER SUPERCENTENARIAN BIRTHDAYS WERE CELEBRATED WITH JOY AND ADMIRATION.

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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY RECOGNIZES AND CELEBRATES THE LEGACY AND WORK OF MISSUS ETHEL CAROL.

WITNESS OUR SIGNATURES AND SEAL OF OFFICE. 27TH DAY OF MAY, 2025.

I THINK IT WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU REMINDED US OF THE TREASURE WITHIN OUR MIDST THAT WE HAD HERE.

WOULD YOU PLEASE SAY A FEW WORDS AND INTRODUCE EVERYONE WHO'S HERE TO CELEBRATE THIS PROCLAMATION? FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE MISS CAROL.

THESE ARE LADIES OF THE KNIGHTS OF SAINT PETER CLAVER, AND I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BRIEFLY.

I WILL PLAY, I'M LINDA J. HENDERSON. I'M BARBARA SINGLETON JONES, AND AS YOU KNOW, I'M EVELYN HARRISON.

WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT MISS CAROL HAS DONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO IN OUR CHURCH. WE ARE ALL MEMBERS OF HOLY REDEEMER CATHOLIC CHURCH, OF WHICH JUDGE SAKAI AND TOMMY CALVERT HAS VISITED OUR CHURCH MANY TIMES. AND YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT FATHER KEVIN IS ALSO OUR PRIEST.

WE AGAIN WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING OUR DEAR FRIEND AND OUR BELOVED SISTER, ETHEL CAROL.

THANK YOU. COME ON. WE'LL TAKE A PHOTO TOGETHER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. HEY, MISS EVELYN.

SAY HELLO TO FATHER KEVIN FOR ME. HOW ARE YOU? THERE YOU GO. HOLD THAT UP. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE HERE. HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE Y'ALL LADIES? OKAY, HERE WE GO.

SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK Y'ALL. Y'ALL HAVE A BLESSED DAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION ITEM IN OBSERVANCE OF MEMORIAL DAY ON MAY

[4.a. In observance of Memorial Day on May 26, 2025, a ceremony will be held at Commissioners Court on May 27, 2025 to remember and honor those service members who have died while serving our country. (Presentation Time: 25 minutes) (Keith Wilson)]

I'VE GOT SOME HELP WITH ME THIS MORNING. OH, YOU GOT, YOU GOT WE GOT SOME NEW EMPLOYEES, TOO.

ALL RIGHT. JUDGE SAKAI, COMMISSIONERS COUNTY MANAGER.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KEITH WILSON.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF BEXAR COUNTY'S DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS SERVICES.

IF YOU'RE ABLE, WILL YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PRESENTATION OF OUR NATIONAL COLORS BY THE TOM CLARK HIGH SCHOOL, AIR FORCE JUNIOR ROTC, AND THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM BY ARMY SERGEANT CANDACE.

PHILISTINE. OH! OH! HA! HA! HA HO! HEAVE HO! OH! SAY, CAN YOU SEE SEE. BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT.

WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAILED AT THE TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING? WHOSE BROAD STRIPES AND BRIGHT STARS THROUGH THE PERILOUS FIGHT.

O'ER THE RAMPARTS WE WATCHED. WERE SO GALLANTLY STREAMING.

AND THE ROCKETS RED GLARE, THE BOMBS BURSTING IN AIR.

GAVE PROOF THROUGH THE NIGHT THAT OUR FLAG WAS STILL THERE.

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AND THE HOME OF THE. BRAVE.

HAW, HAW.

PLEASE BE SEATED. AS A AS AN ALUM OF CLARK HIGH SCHOOL AND A PRODUCT OF THE AIR FORCE.

TEXAS 793 JUNIOR ROTC. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE THESE YOUNG, YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE WEARING UNIFORMS COME IN WITH DISCIPLINE AND CHARACTER AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS CEREMONY.

SO I APPRECIATE THIS. THIS CREW AND SERGEANT CANDACE PHILISTINE HAS DONE SOME PHENOMENAL PERFORMANCES FOR MANY OF OUR EVENTS AND JUST KNOCKS IT OUT OF THE PARK EVERY SINGLE DAY.

BEFORE I BEGIN OUR MEMORIAL DAY SERVICE, I'D BE REMISS TO NOT REFLECT ON MAY AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH.

THIS MONTH HOLDS PROFOUND RELEVANCE FOR MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS, VETERANS, AND THEIR FAMILIES, WHO OFTEN FACE UNIQUE CHALLENGES LIKE COMBAT RELATED STRESS, PTSD, AND THE EMOTIONAL TOLL OF FREQUENT RELOCATIONS AND FAMILY SEPARATIONS. THESE HEROES AND THEIR LOVED ONES DESERVE UNWAVERING SUPPORT TO ADDRESS THEIR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS.

WE CANNOT DO THIS ALONE. COMMUNITY PARTNERS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN THIS MISSION, WORKING TOGETHER TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBLE RESOURCES, COUNSELING, AND SAFE SPACES THAT FOSTER HEALING AND RESILIENCE.

TOGETHER, WE HONOR THOSE WE SERVE BY PRIORITIZING MENTAL WELLNESS AND BUILDING STRONGER, SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITIES.

WITH US TODAY, I'M PLEASED TO HAVE STANDING BEHIND ME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT INCLUDE MR. ANDREW SANTOS FROM THE STEVEN A COHEN CLINIC.

MISS ERICA IRIZARRY FROM THE LAUREL RIDGE MISSION RESILIENCY PROGRAM.

JESSICA MILLER AND MISS VERONICA DRAKE FROM THE FAMILY CARE CENTER.

CARA SCHNEIDER AND JUSTICE SIMMONS FROM STONE RIVER RECOVERY.

AS I'VE OFTEN SAID WE CANNOT SUCCEED WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS WE SURROUND OURSELVES WITH, AND WE SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WITH. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM HERE WITH US TODAY.

YESTERDAY, AS OUR NATION COMMEMORATED MEMORIAL DAY.

AND TODAY, IT'S MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO LEAD OUR MOURNING CEREMONY AS WE RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE TO OUR NATION.

THEY ARE AMERICA'S HEROES. THEY ARE OUR HEROES.

I'D LIKE TO START WITH A BRIEF VIDEO. IT'S CALLED BROTHERS FOREVER.

AND IT SPEAKS OF THE STRENGTH AND BONDS THAT FORM IN THE MILITARY AND THE IMPACT OF LIVES LOST.

COULD YOU PLEASE ROLL THE BROTHERS FOREVER VIDEO.

KEITH. SIR, IF I COULD FOR JUST ONE SECOND, I'LL JUST AGAIN SAY I TRIED TO TELL THIS STORY TO THIS COURTROOM A FEW WEEKS AGO, BUT I KNOW THIS VIDEO WILL DO A BETTER JOB. BUT THESE ARE TWO AMERICAN HEROES.

SO THANK YOU FOR FOR PRESENTING IT TODAY. YES, SIR.

A RECENT POLL SHOWS AMERICANS HAVE THE MOST RESPECT FOR MEMBERS OF THE U.S.

MILITARY. THEY HOLD THEM IN THE HIGHEST REGARD.

AND THAT ESTEEM IS FOR GOOD REASON. AND IT OFTEN COMES AT A HIGH COST.

OUR FINAL STORY HERE TONIGHT IS ABOUT TWO AMERICANS IN UNIFORM.

THEY WERE BEST FRIENDS AND THEY WENT OFF TO FIGHT IN SEPARATE WARS.

TRAVIS MANION AND BRENDAN LOONEY, ROOMMATES AT THE NAVAL ACADEMY.

CLOSE AS BROTHERS. ONE BECAME A MARINE AND WENT TO IRAQ.

THE OTHER A NAVY SEAL IN AFGHANISTAN. TODAY THEY WERE REUNITED SIDE BY SIDE IN ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY.

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ON APRIL 29TH, 2007, WHILE FIGHTING TO RESCUE HIS FELLOW MARINES FROM DANGER, TRAVIS WAS KILLED BY A SNIPER.

SIX MONTHS AFTER TRAVIS DIED, BRENDAN TRIED TO EXPRESS WHAT TRAVIS MEANT TO HIM.

I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO ROOM WITH TRAVIS AT THE NAVAL ACADEMY FOR TWO YEARS.

A VERY SHORT TIME, HE BECAME ANOTHER BROTHER TO ME.

HE WAS A GREAT FRIEND. AND I'LL FORGIVE HIM. AND I'LL MISS HIM.

BRENDAN DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO. HE KEPT GOING.

HE POURED HIMSELF INTO HIS SEAL TRAINING AND DEDICATED IT TO THE FRIEND THAT HE MISSED.

HE MARRIED THE WOMAN HE LOVED AND HIS TOUR IN KOREA.

BEHIND HIM, HE DEPLOYED TO AFGHANISTAN. ON SEPTEMBER 21ST OF LAST YEAR, BRENDAN GAVE HIS OWN LIFE ALONG WITH EIGHT OTHERS IN A HELICOPTER CRASH.

TRAVIS WAS MOVED TO ARLINGTON. BOTH FAMILIES WERE THERE.

THE TWO MOTHERS HOLDING TIGHT TO EACH OTHER. TRAVIS'S FATHER, HIMSELF A FORMER MARINE, SPOKE THEIR EPITAPH.

FIRST LIEUTENANT TRAVIS MANION, USMC. LIEUTENANT BRENDAN LOONEY, UNITED STATES NAVY.

WARRIORS FOR FREEDOM. BROTHERS FOREVER.

THE FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN FIRST LIEUTENANT TRAVIS MANION AND LIEUTENANT BRENDAN LOONEY REFLECTS THE MEANING OF MEMORIAL DAY BROTHERHOOD, SACRIFICE, LOVE OF COUNTRY AND IT IS MY FERVENT PRAYER THAT WE MAY HONOR THE MEMORY OF THE FALLEN BY LIVING OUT THOSE IDEALS EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES, IN THE MILITARY AND BEYOND.

MY FRIENDS LAUGHED AT ME. MANY PEOPLE ASSOCIATE MEMORIAL DAY WITH THE KICKOFF TO SUMMER, MAYBE TIME SPENT ON THE LAKE OR IN A RIVER, OUTDOOR BARBECUES AND PICNICS WITH FAMILY.

FOR SOME, AN EXTRA DAY OFF OF WORK. BUT FOR MANY, THIS HOLIDAY WAS DIFFERENT.

THIS HOLIDAY WAS UNIQUE. MEMORIAL DAY HONORS THOSE WHO DIED SERVING THEIR COUNTRY TO PROTECT AND CARE FOR US, TO GIVE US FREEDOM, TO GIVE US OPPORTUNITIES.

TODAY, WE HONOR THOSE WHO DID NOT GET TO COME HOME TO BARBECUES OR PICNICS OR THEIR FAMILIES.

EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ALSO REPRESENT LOVED ONES, FRIENDS, EVEN FELLOW SERVICE MEMBERS AND VETERANS RETURNING TO COMMUNITIES WITH THE SCARS OF WAR ETCHED IN THEIR SOUL. AS COMBAT IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN DREW TO AN END, OUR SOCIAL AWARENESS OF THOSE WHO SERVED AND SUFFERED EXTREME TRAUMA WANED.

WE MUST ENSURE WE DO NOT LEAVE ANYONE BEHIND.

THAT IS WHERE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A COMMUNITY BEGIN.

TODAY'S CEREMONIAL THEME IS BRUSHES OF VALOR, A MEMORIAL DAY TRIBUTE TO ART AND HEALING, TO RECOGNIZE ONE FORM OF ADDRESSING THE DARKNESS THAT RESIDES IN SO MANY OF US, FROM THE TRAUMAS OF WAR AND THE LOSS OF FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES. TODAY WE HAVE LOCAL ARTISTS AND ARMY COMBAT VETERAN ABRAHAM GHOST CASADAS TO DISCUSS HOW HE HAS USED ART TO ADDRESS HIS COMBAT RELATED PTSD. DISPLAYING SOME OF HIS ARTWORK TODAY ARE RETIRED AIR FORCE COMBAT VETERAN KEN MCGLAMERY. RETIRED ARMY COMBAT VETERAN KENDRA COOK, MARINE AND COMBAT VETERAN BRIAN CASTELLANO, AND RETIRED ARMY COMBAT VETERAN TY SCOTT. WOULD YOU PLEASE ROLL THE GHOST VIDEO? THIS IS GERALDO GHOST CASARES, A SAN ANTONIO NATIVE WHOSE ARTISTIC JOURNEY IS AS VIBRANT AND MULTIFACETED AS THE MURALS HE CREATES.

HIS STYLE IS A CAPTIVATING FUSION. HE DRAWS DEEP INSPIRATION FROM THE TIMELESS BEAUTY OF CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY, SEAMLESSLY BLENDING IT WITH THE IMAGINATIVE REALMS OF 70S SCI FI.

THE DYNAMIC ENERGY OF COMIC ART AND THE RAW POWER OF HEAVY METAL ALBUM COVERS.

ADDING TO THIS UNIQUE MIX ARE HIS TRADITIONAL MEXICAN CATHOLIC UPBRINGING AND THE PROFOUND IMPACT OF HIS EIGHT YEARS AS A COMBAT ENGINEER IN THE ARMY.

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HIS PAINTING HAS HELPED HIM WITH HIS JOURNEY THROUGH PTSD.

AFTER LEAVING THE ARMY AND HELPS HIM ENGAGE WITH OTHER VETERANS WHEN AN IDEA FOR A PAINTING TAKES HOLD, IT OFTEN HAS BEEN DEVELOPING IN HIS MIND FOR YEARS, SOMETIMES EVEN A DECADE.

HE OFTEN ENVISIONS THE FINISHED PIECE WITH REMARKABLE CLARITY.

THE ESTHETIC, THE COLORS, THE SCALE. THE CHALLENGE LIES IN CARVING OUT THE TIME TO TRANSLATE THAT VISION INTO REALITY.

HE NEEDS TO ENTER A STATE OF INTENSE FOCUS TO BEGIN THE CREATIVE PROCESS.

A FIRM BELIEVER IN THE IMPORTANCE OF TECHNICAL SKILL, GERARDO HAS LITTLE PATIENCE FOR TRENDS THAT OVERSHADOW THE DEDICATION OF TRUE ARTISTIC CRAFTSMANSHIP. EARLY IN HIS ARTISTIC DEVELOPMENT, GERARDO EMBRACED THE ADVICE TO PAINT WHAT YOU KNOW.

CONSEQUENTLY, HIS THEMES EXPLORE THE SIGNIFICANT ASPECTS OF HIS LIFE THE MILITARY, RELIGION, WARFARE, MORTALITY, HUMAN NATURE, MUSIC AND MOVIES, OFTEN WITH A TOUCH OF HIS CHARACTERISTIC HUMOR.

FROM HIS EARLY DISPLAYS ON SOUTH ALAMO TO THE IMPACTFUL MURALS THAT NOW ENRICH THE CITYSCAPE, GERARDO'S ARTISTIC JOURNEY HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.

TODAY, GERARDO IS A FULL TIME ARTIST, SUPPORTING HIS FAMILY BY BRINGING HIS DEEPLY PERSONAL AND LONG HELD ARTISTIC VISIONS TO LIFE.

HE ENVISIONS NO OTHER PATH. THIS IS GERARDO. GHOST.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. ABRAHAM. GHOST.

GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. HOW ARE WE DOING? YEAH, SO I STARTED THAT JOURNEY BACK IN 2015.

I JUST RECENTLY HAD GOTTEN OFF OF ACTIVE DUTY, CAME BACK HOME, AND EVERYTHING JUST KIND OF WENT DOWNHILL IN A NUTSHELL.

AND THEN I WAS I WAS SORT OF DESPERATE TO FIND A VERY THERAPEUTIC OUTLET FOR MYSELF.

AND I HAD ALWAYS BEEN ARTISTIC THROUGHOUT MY LIFE.

I WAS ALWAYS DRAWING AND I WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN PAINTING.

AND SO THAT THAT YEAR ONE OF THE HARDEST YEARS OF MY LIFE, I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO TRY IT THIS TIME. THIS, YOU KNOW, I'M FINALLY GOING TO DO IT. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE STOPPING ME.

THERE'S NOTHING IN FRONT OF ME. THERE'S NO REASON I CAN'T THAT I CAN'T TRY THIS.

AND SO I TRIED IT, AND I HAVE I HAVEN'T STOPPED EVER SINCE.

IT'S BEEN ALMOST TEN YEARS NOW, AND IT'S BEEN A IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD.

IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN QUITE A ROLLER COASTER RIDE.

A LOT OF, LEARNING, A LOT OF FAILURE, A LOT OF MISTAKES, A LOT OF UPS AND DOWNS.

BUT OVERALL, IT'S IT'S BROUGHT ME HERE TODAY, SO IT'S FANTASTIC.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE FORWARD. AND NOW I'M DOING LARGE SCALE MURALS NOW.

SO FROM TEN YEARS AGO I WAS DOING SMALL EIGHT BY TEN CANVASES, AND NOW I'M DOING 66 BY 30 FOOT MURALS IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO. AND SO YEAH, IT'S IT'S GREAT, I LOVE IT.

THIS ART IS AN ART IS A VERY, VERY POWERFUL THING.

AND IT'S A VERY GOOD WAY TO DIG YOURSELF OUT OF THOSE HOLES.

ALL RIGHT. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, JUST.

YEAH. ALL EARS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOOD. THANK YOU. ERNEST HEMINGWAY ONCE SAID, EVERY MAN HAS TWO DEATHS WHEN HE IS BURIED IN THE GROUND. AND THE IN THE LAST TIME SOMEONE SAYS HIS NAME.

TODAY, AS WE REFLECT ON THE MEN AND WOMEN LOST TO COMBAT IN SERVICE TO OUR NATION, WE REMEMBER THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEIR NAME IS NEVER FORGOTTEN.

THEY ARE NOT FORGOTTEN. FROM THE WORDS OF TAPS.

DAY IS DONE, GONE. THE SUN FROM THE LAKE, FROM THE HILL.

FROM THE SKY. ALL IS WELL. SAFELY REST GOD IS NIGH.

FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE ABLE, WILL YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLAYING OF TAPS BY THE FORT SAM HOUSTON NATIONAL CEMETERIES MEMORIAL SERVICES DETACHMENT, COMMANDED BY MANNY MENDOZA.

WE HAVE WITH US TODAY MONTE MONTELLANO, RETIRED CHIEF MASTER SERGEANT FROM THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE.

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THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIFE FOR US. THEY ARE OUR HEROES.

THEY ARE AMERICA'S HEROES. AND TODAY, IN HONOR OF MEMORIAL DAY, WE REMEMBER THEM.

WE HONOR THEM. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HONOR THE SACRIFICES OF THESE HEROES, FIND A WAY THAT YOU CAN GIVE CARE AND COMPASSION TO OTHERS. FIND A WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE OUR COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN.

BY DOING THIS AND HELPING OTHERS, YOU CAN HELP HONOR THEM THOSE THAT WE REMEMBER TODAY.

LET THEM BE OUR CATALYST FOR CHANGE. JUDGE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT OUR HEROES AND TO REFLECT ON THE IMPACT THAT THEY'VE HAD ON OUR LIVES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JUDGE, IF I CAN JUST MR.. CLAY-FLORES. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN SERVICES KEITH AND ALL OF OUR STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY CONTINUE TO DO.

SO MANY OF YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER IS RETIRED 24 YEARS FROM THE ARMY.

AND EVERY TIME HE GOT DEPLOYED TO THE MIDDLE EAST, I WAS PRAYING AND THOUGHT I WOULDN'T SEE HIM AGAIN.

SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT HE IS NOW RETIRED AND BACK IN TEXAS.

BUT TO ALL THE FAMILIES WHO SACRIFICED SO MUCH, AND TO ALL OF OUR SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SERVED, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THAT ART THERAPY IS SOMETHING THAT CAN CONTINUE TO HEAL.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. MR. RODRIGUEZ, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

JUDGE. KEITH, LET ME ALSO JUST RELAY MY THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR JUST THE OUTSTANDING SERVICE YOU PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

NOT JUST, OBVIOUSLY THIS THIS DAY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO OUR VETERANS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE IN MILITARY CITY, USA, MILITARY COUNTY, USA.

AND MEMORIAL DAY HAS A SPECIAL MEANING BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT REALLY, TO ALL THOSE SERVICE MEMBERS, THOSE THAT WE'VE LOST, THEIR FAMILIES, THOSE WHO ARE DOING THINGS LIKE GHOSTS AND OTHERS WHO ARE PROVIDING THERAPY TO FAMILY SURVIVORS AND THOSE WHO HAVE MADE IT THROUGH SOME OF THE TOUGHEST TIMES, PROBABLY IN THEIR LIVES. WE THANK YOU. BUT AGAIN, KEITH, TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL, I'LL JUST ECHO THOSE COMMENTS.

APPRECIATE, KEITH. THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE YOU INCORPORATING BRENNAN AND TRAVIS'S STORY.

AND THANK YOU TO TO ALL THE VETERANS AND SERVICE MEMBERS HERE IN THE ROOM.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SERVE OUR NATION AND KEEP IT SAFE.

AND TO YOUR FAMILIES BECAUSE AS A SERVICE MEMBER, I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST THE SERVICE MEMBER.

IT'S THE FAMILY AS WELL THAT BEARS A LOT OF THE BURDEN THROUGH COUNTLESS DEPLOYMENTS AND OTHER SERVICE OBLIGATIONS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION, MR. CALVERT. THANK YOU. JUDGE KEITH, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL TRIBUTE TO THOSE WHO'VE LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES FOR OUR COUNTRY.

IT WAS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE FAMILIES WHO.

FROM SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY WHO HAVE HAD TO ENDURE THE LOSS OF OF OF THEIR LOVED ONE FOR CARRYING ON IN THEIR LOVED ONE'S HONOR. CERTAINLY. I WANT TO THANK ABRAHAM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION TODAY

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AND THAT WORK. IT'S ONE THING TO DO SOMETHING THIS SIZE.

IT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THING TO DO SOMETHING THE SIZE OF A BUILDING.

AND YOU HAVE MADE A LANDMARK THAT ALL OF US CAN VISIT FOREVER.

AND I WAS JUST THINKING, WE REALLY NEED TO GET A A METAL BRONZE PLACARD THERE, SO WE CAN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKE SURE WE COMMEMORATE THE HISTORY THAT YOU AND THE POST HAVE MADE THERE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN. AND TO ALL OF OUR, OUR, COUNTY FAMILY WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE MILITARY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WILLING TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND KEITH, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND EVERYBODY HERE FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY.

BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE PUBLIC OF OUR COMMUNITY.

LET US NEVER, EVER FORGET THOSE WHO HAVE DIED IN THIS ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR OUR COUNTRY.

AND, KEITH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS THAT THE PUBLIC NEVER, EVER FORGET TO REPEAT THE NAMES AND THE STORIES SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE AND THEIR LEGACY CAN CONTINUE, AND THAT WE'RE ALWAYS REMINDED THAT WE HAVE TO DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THIS STATE AND OF THIS UNITED STATES. SO GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S GIVE ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE. WE'RE NOT YET ON THOSE TIME CERTAIN. SO LET US CONTINUE.

ITEM AGENDA SIX REQUEST THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO IDENTIFY THOSE ITEMS FROM CONSENT AGENDA FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND TO APPROVE CONSENT

[6. Request of Commissioners Court to identify items from the Consent Agenda for additional discussion and to approve remaining Consent Agenda items.]

I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO PULL 49. 49. OKAY. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

JUDGE. COMMISSIONER. MOODY. YES, COMMISSIONER.

CALVERT NONE. JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT THAT THE MUSICAL BRIDGES AROUND THE WORLD CONTRIBUTION WILL GO TOWARDS HELPING MILITARY VETERANS WITH MUSIC THERAPY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT NOTE.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE.

ALL THOSE IN CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SO MOVED. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

LET US NOW TAKE UP FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

[49. Approval of a request from Commissioner Tommy Calvert, Precinct 4, to allocate outside agency funding in the total amount of $121,500 for the agencies and amounts listed; as part of Commissioner Tommy Calvert, Precinct 4, Contributions to Outside Agencies from the General Fund.]

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IN THAT LIST THE $12.5 THOUSAND TO THE CANCER FOUNDATION.

I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER CALVERT. SO I HAD CHALLENGED MY COLLEAGUES TO ALLOCATE 12.5 EACH TO MATCH MY 500,000 TO THRIVE.

WELL, AS I CONTINUE IN MY RECOVERY FROM COLON CANCER, TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE DIAGNOSED IN BEXAR COUNTY WILL HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE FORWARD WHO ARE DIAGNOSED WITH COLON CANCER.

SO, WITH COMMISSIONER CALVERT'S 12.5, THAT BRINGS A TOTAL TO 100,000 TO THRIVE.

WELL TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE DIAGNOSED WITH COLON CANCER. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES AND LET'S KEEP PUSHING FORWARD AND REMEMBER THAT COLONOSCOPY SAVES LIVES.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD ONE AND YOU'RE IN YOUR 40S, YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES. LET'S MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN.

[7. Filing for record the following legal and administrative documents and directing the Criminal District Attorney's Office to take action, if necessary]

COMMISSIONER NUMBER. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT COMMISSIONER'S COURT MINUTES FOR TUESDAY, MAY 13TH,

[8. Commissioners Court minutes for Tuesday, May 13, 2025.]

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES. OH, WE'RE GOING ALONG HERE.

WE'RE STILL SHORT. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL UP CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

[9. Communications from citizens who signed the register to speak.]

I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR HONOREES, WASN'T IT? OH, THERE YOU ARE. OH, THERE YOU ARE. SO CAN WE ASSIST MISS CLAY, PLEASE? MISS CLAY? WE'LL WE'LL GET YOU A MIC THERE. HAND MIC.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. WELL, OUR COUNTY CLERK WILL DO IT.

THANK YOU, MISS LUCY ADAME-CLARK. THANK YOU. I'LL.

I'LL ELEVATE MY MY DEVICE. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK

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IT'S ON TRANSPORTATION. IT'S BEEN RESOLVED. AND I SENT AN AUDIBLE MESSAGE TO COMMISSIONER CALVERT TO LET HIM KNOW THAT I APPRECIATED THE THE SUPPORT AND ASSISTANCE THAT THE COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR HAD GIVEN TO PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES THAT USE BEATRICE. AT ONE POINT WE HAD DIFFICULTY GETTING ON THE LOCAL MILITARY INSTALLATIONS.

BUT AS A RESULT OF SOME ADVOCACY THAT WAS DONE AND THE SUPPORT OF COMMISSIONER COURT, I WANTED TO COME AND THANK YOU PERSONALLY.

WE, THE PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, ARE NOW ABLE TO GET BACK ONTO THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS CLEGG.

THE NEXT SPEAKER YOU'VE ASKED TO SIGN UP FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS. I BELIEVE THEY WERE DEALT WITH IN AGENDA ITEMS 44, 47, 49.

THEY WERE IN CONSENT. THOSE MATTERS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

BUT, RICH GONZALES, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES.

JUDGE, CAN I APPROACH THE BENCH? GIVE IT TO OUR STAFF.

WILL GET IT. OKAY, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A. NUMBER HERE FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THE JUDGE. COME ON GUYS. JUDGE I'M RICHARD GONZALES.

I'M THE NATIONAL VICE COMMANDER FOR AMERICAN GI FORUM, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ITEMS OF 44, 47, 49 THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA. WE WE APPRECIATE THE, THE SUPPORT.

BUT BEFORE I GO INTO THE LETTER THAT I HAVE PASSED OUT, I WANT TO ALSO INTRODUCE THE COMMANDER OF MIGUEL HERNANDEZ CHAPTER, JOSE ARZOLA. YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS COURT. I'M JOSE ARZOLA.

I'M THE COMMANDER OF THE AMERICAN GI FORUM. MIGUEL HERNANDEZ CHAPTER, AND WE WILL BE HOSTING THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF THE AMERICAN GI FORUM HERE IN SAN ANTONIO IN JULY.

AND YOU'LL HEAR THE DATES AND WHERE IN PLACES FROM OUR NATIONAL VICE COMMANDER.

BUT BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, YOUR DONATIONS, AND THANK YOU TO MILITARY CITY, USA. THANK YOU. HEAR, HEAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND SO LET ME LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND READ FROM THIS LETTER.

I KNOW THIS IS AFTER THE FACT, BUT ANYWAY JESSICA.

COMMISSIONERS CLAY-FLORES JUSTIN RODRIGUEZ, GRAND MOODE AND TOMMY CALVERT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE ON THE ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOR TODAY.

WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE AMERICAN GI FORUM 2025 NATIONAL CONVENTION IS GOING TO BE HERE AT THE AT THE MARRIOTT HOTEL NORTHWEST JULY 27TH TO THE 30TH.

AND IT'S LOCATED AT NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR, TEN, AND TEN.

WE ARE VERY HONORED TO HAVE YOU AS OUR PARTNER, AND WANT TO INVITE YOU TO ANY ACTIVITIES THAT YOU MAY WANT TO PARTICIPATE.

DURING THE CONFERENCE, WE HAVE ATTACHED AN AGENDA FOR OUR EVENTS.

WE SUGGEST YOU ESPECIALLY CONSIDER ATTENDING EITHER THE THE WELCOME RECEPTION FEATURING CAMPANAS DE AMERICA.

AND ALSO ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 30TH, FROM 6 TO 9, WE'RE GOING TO BE HONORING MAJOR GENERAL ANGELA SALINAS, WHO IS THE CEO OF THE GIRL SCOUTS OF SOUTHWEST.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR COMMANDERS BANQUET, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PATSY TORRES ALSO PERFORMING.

SO ON THERE WE HAVE DENISE BLANCHARD, WHO'S OUR CONFERENCE COORDINATOR.

IF YOU COULD HAVE YOUR STAFF, I GAVE YOU AN AGENDA ITEM, A DRAFT.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON ALL THE FINAL DETAILS, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE BY THE MIDDLE OF JUNE.

ALL THE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE IRONED OUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO ALSO COME BEFORE THE COURT, HOPEFULLY TO GET A RESOLUTION ON BEHALF OF THE CONFERENCE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WELCOME YOU. JUDGE SAKAI AS THE COUNTY JUDGE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY A WELCOMING REMARKS ON ON OUR EVENT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

AND I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE STEVE KEEL, WHO IS ALSO A NAVY CAPTAIN COMMANDER AND TRUSTEE OF THE MIGUEL HERNANDEZ CHAPTER,

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GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

WE ALL REALLY, REALLY DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND WE DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY AS CHAIR OF THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE FOR THIS CONFERENCE.

IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR EDUCATORS AND OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY AMONG SYSTEMS IN THE UNITED STATES.

THE INTEGRATED NATURE OF OUR ALAMO SYSTEM AND OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES PROVIDES MORE OPPORTUNITIES AT A CRITICAL TIME IN THE UNITED STATES THAN THAN I CAN RECALL. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

IT ALLOWS US TO SUPPORT OTHERS, AND THAT'S THE WONDERFUL WAY TO LIVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU STEVE. AND ALSO WE HAVE MISS DADY ALSO.

SHE'S THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE MIGUEL HERNANDEZ WOMEN'S CHAPTER TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMANDER, PETER BURNELL.

AND ALSO EMILIO PENA IS ALSO A MEMBER OF OUR CHAPTER.

JOE, DO YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? I JUST WANT TO SAY WE ARE DEEPLY THANKFUL FOR ALL YOUR DONATIONS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO EDUCATING AND MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JOE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING FOR US? ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? NOPE. OKAY. GET THAT CONVENTION IN.

CONFERENCE GOING. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL WE'LL GET YOU GUYS GOING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

CODY DAVENPORT, YOU SIGNED UP FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM.

SO, CODY, WE'LL GET TO YOU WHEN WE GET TO THAT SPECIFIC ITEM.

ALL RIGHT. LET US NOW GO BACK UP TO TIME CERTAIN AGENDA ITEM FIVE AT.

[5.a. 10:00 a.m. - Presentation, update, discussion, and appropriate action regarding extending the Bexar County/Alamo Community College District (ACCD), Alamo Colleges Student Employment Program (ACSE) and Bexar County agreement, as requested by the Small Business and Entrepreneurship Department (SBED). (Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Renee Watson)]

WE'RE VERY EXCITED. SOME OF THEM STARTED AS INTERNS, SOME OF THEM NOW COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE.

BEFORE WE DO THAT. WE WANT TO HAVE GREETINGS ON BEHALF OF THE COLLEGE DISTRICT AND TO RECOGNIZE THEIR TEAM.

COME ON UP. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE SAKAI COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS ANNA KAWAMURA.

I AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE ALAMO ON THE JOB INTERNSHIP PROGRAM REPRESENTING ALAMO COLLEGES DISTRICT.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP, THE LIVES THAT YOU'RE CHANGING FOR OUR STUDENTS, AND JUST THE THINGS THAT WE ARE SEEING ARE EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL.

WE WANT TO SINCERELY THANK RENEE WATSON AND HER TEAM FOR THE GREAT PARTNERSHIP, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SO MANY GREAT THINGS FOR OUR STUDENTS AND JUST REALLY CHANGING THEIR LIVES. I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO INTRODUCE MY TEAM, WHO WITH RENEE WATSON TEAM, MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FOR OUR STUDENTS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST HAVE YOU GUYS WAVE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.

I HAVE MISS TRACY CROSS, WHO LEADS THE PROGRAM FOR OUR TEAM.

JADE HERNANDEZ, ANA VILLARREAL, MR., REY KING, ALEXIS BRITO, AND WE HAVE THREE NEW INTERNS THAT JUST STARTED LAST WEEK. SUMMER ROCHA, SERENITY JUAREZ, AND CELESTE KOZINSKI.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP. WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING TO HELP OUR STUDENTS AND ALSO THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND WE ARE VERY HONORED TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER FOR THIS HISTORIC PROGRAM WE HAVE HERE AT BEXAR COUNTY.

WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE. IT'S ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

WE MATCHED A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO TO START THE PARTNERSHIP WITH BEXAR COUNTY, THE MENTORSHIP AND THEN THE SUBSIDIZED COST FOR THE PROGRAM AS A PART OF THE. THE EXPECTATIONS. THE ALAMO COLLEGES.

THIS STAFF RECRUITS ALL OF THE STUDENTS FROM ALL FIVE CAMPUSES THROUGHOUT THE ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT.

BEXAR COUNTY, THEN MATCHES WITH OUR OFFICE AND DEPARTMENTS DOING JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

AND IT'S VERY, VERY EASY. I THINK ALL OF OUR SUPERVISORS WOULD SAY IT'S VERY EASY PROGRAM FOR US HERE AT BEXAR COUNTY.

THE RECRUITER KEEPS THEIR TIME AND HOW THEY OPERATE.

OVERSIGHT CHECK IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMING TO WORK AND HOW THEY GET REFERRED TO THE PROGRAM.

STUDENTS APPLY BY SIGNING UP WITH ALAMO COLLEGES FOR A MINIMUM OF ONE HOUR INSTRUCTIONS.

WE'VE HAD STUDENTS FROM SEVERAL OTHER UNIVERSITIES ALSO GO THROUGH THE ALAMO COLLEGES PROGRAM TO BECOME INTERNS HERE AT BEXAR COUNTY.

BUT THE GREAT NEWS IS WE'VE HAD 98 TOTAL PLACEMENTS TO DATE, 60 SINCE MAY OF THIS TIME.

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THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT THE JUDGE AND THE COURT GAVE US IS THE FUTURE OF BEXAR COUNTY EMPLOYEES COMING FROM THE ALAMO COLLEGES.

WE HAVE A VARIETY OF OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS REPRESENTED TODAY.

WE'LL HAVE A VERY FEW ONE MINUTE GREETINGS FROM SOME OF THE SUPERVISORS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS SO THEY CAN BRAG ABOUT THEIR INTERNS AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, AND WE'LL COME BACK AT THE END YOU'LL SEE THESE INCREDIBLE PICTURES OF OUR INTERNS 20 HOURS A WEEK, 52 WEEKS A YEAR. THE PAY DIFFERENTIAL THAT BEXAR COUNTY DOES IS $1.26 FOR A TOTAL REQUEST OF $65,520. WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO RENEW TODAY, THAT ALLOWS THE STUDENTS TO RECEIVE THE COUNTY MINIMUM WAGE OF 1755, LESS THE ALAMO COLLEGES DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION OF $16.29.

SO YOU'LL SEE SOME HIGHLIGHTS WE'VE INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY OF THE STUDENTS MAKING A DIFFERENCE HERE AT BEXAR COUNTY.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL ASK JASON BURGOS TO COME OVER AND TO INTRODUCE OUR TEAM HERE AND WHO WE HAVE WITH US.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, FOR THE RECORD, JASON BURGOS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE LIST OF SUPERVISORS, INTERNS, FULL TIME INTERNS THAT, WELL, INTERNS THAT ARE NOW FULL TIME EMPLOYEES OF STAFF.

AND IF THE FOLKS BEHIND ME DON'T MIND RAISING THEIR HAND AS I SAY THEIR NAME WITH THE ALAMO COLLEGES TEAM, I HAVE TRACY CROSS, ANNA KAWAMURA, JD HERNANDEZ, RAYMOND KING, ALEXIS PRIETO.

SUMMER. ROCHA. CELESTE. KOZICKI. SERENITY. JUAREZ.

AND AS FAR AS THE BEXAR COUNTY INTERNS AND STAFF THAT ARE HERE.

SUPERVISORS JACKIE IBARRA, CAROL CAROLINA LOPEZ, NATASHA SHUMAKER, MELISSA RAMIREZ, NICOLE GALINDO, LAUREN GARCIA, NANCY GOMEZ, STEPHANIE MEYER, MARIA CASTRO, DEBORAH CARTER, LIANA MENDOZA, SUZANNE SEPULVEDA, MRS, LUCIA ADAME-CLARK, EVANGELINE GOMEZ, ARMANDO CRUZ, DAVID.

ESCOBEDO, HIRAM AYALA ANAYA, JENNY RAMIRO ALVAREZ, JESSICA.

REYES, MR., JIM. BETHKE, STEPHANIE. LUNA, JULIAN.

CASAS, ASHLEY. CASTELLANOS, JASON. HENRY, IAN.

PHAM, MAX. MORALES, MASON, ARMANDO. MR., GREG.

GALLOWAY, MARCUS. HARRIS, MISS. RENEE. WATSON, LINDA.

PAPAGIANNOPOULOS, MYSELF. RIVER. NIGHTINGALE.

CHRISTA ADA. WILLIAM. ROGER. HENDERSON. NATTY.

NATTY. RAMON. VICTORIA. ANGELES. LAURIE. CAMACHO.

JEANETTE. CASILLAS. ROSEMARY. VILLAGRAN. ROLANDO.

AMAYA. SAM GOLDMAN. AND LEVIN. GROOMER. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A FEW BRIEF REMARKS BY OUR COUNTY CLERK AND THEN OUR PURCHASING AGENT.

LUCY, IS LUCY HERE? COME ON IN, LUCY. THANK YOU.

RENEE. GOOD MORNING, COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE SO HONORED TO HAVE ALLOWED THIS PROGRAM TO COME TO BEXAR COUNTY, ESPECIALLY RENEE WATSON AND THE COUNTY BUDGET AND COUNTY AUDITOR FOR MAKING THIS POSSIBLE AND FEASIBLE TO HAPPEN FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

OUR LEADER, ARNIE, HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY EMPLOYEE AT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

SHE HAS REALLY STEPPED UP THAT I WANT TO STEAL HER AND MAKE HER A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE AT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IS ZAINAB ANIFOWOSHE CAN COME FORWARD.

WE, THE COUNTY CLERK STAFF, WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON COMPLETING YOUR TIME SINCE AUGUST.

FOR YOUR INTERNSHIP, YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS STOOD OUT IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

YOU HAVE REALLY HAVE BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY EMPLOYEE EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE AN INTERN.

BUT EVERY TIME I WALKED IN THERE, YOU WERE ALWAYS SMILING.

YOU WERE ALWAYS HELPING OUR CUSTOMERS. AND MARRIAGE DEPARTMENT IS A LOT OF WORK, SO THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

AND IF YOU EVER WANT A CAREER WHERE OUR DOORS ARE ALWAYS OPEN.

SO HERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. GREAT.

HARD TO FOLLOW THAT. JUST WANT TO ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS FROM MISS LUCY ADAME-CLARK.

FOR ALL THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE HERE.

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IT'S GREAT, GREAT ACHIEVEMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE ON THIS PATHWAY.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE MASON, MY FIRST HIRE HERE AT THE THE COUNTY.

HE'S A FIXED ASSET SPECIALIST. AND SO DEFINITELY I WANT TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PUSH FORWARD TO ACHIEVE THOSE DREAMS BY BY.

MORNING, COUNTY JUDGE, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ARMANDO CRUZ. I SERVE AS THE YOUTH DIVERSION COORDINATOR WITH PRECINCT FOUR. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS AMAZING PROGRAM.

OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF NINE INTERNS.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE FIVE. AND I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF OUR INTERNS.

HIS NAME IS RAMIRO ALVAREZ. RAMIRO, IF YOU COULD STEP UP.

RAMIRO ALVAREZ IS A RECIPIENT OF THE RAMOS ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM AND HOUSING IN BOERNE, TEXAS, SINCE THE AGE OF TWO YEARS OLD. HE ENLISTED IN THE ARMY.

HE LATER RE-ENLISTED IN THE AIR FORCE, AND AFTER HIGH SCHOOL HE.

AND AFTER THE PANDEMIC HE FOUND HIMSELF UNEMPLOYED AND DECIDED TO PURSUE A CAREER IN CIVIL ENGINEERING.

CURRENTLY, HE IS ATTENDING SAN ANTONIO COLLEGE.

AND THROUGH THE ESSENTIAL RESOURCES HIS SUCCESS HAS BEEN THROUGH THE FOSTER CARE PROGRAM, THE TRIO, THE ACCESSIBLE SERVICES, THE VA CENTER, AND THE EMPOWERMENT CENTER.

HE WILL BE GRADUATING REAL SOON, AND HE PLANS TO ATTEND UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT SAN ANTONIO.

BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HIM AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT ALAMO COLLEGES IS SENDING TO US, AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE ALL THESE INTERNS BEHIND US WHO EVERY SINGLE DAY WHO GO 20 HOURS A WEEK TO BE WITH US.

AND THEY'RE A HUGE ASSET DESPITE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

SHOES. HE SHOWS UP AT PRECINCT FOUR, SATELLITE OFFICE ON THE BUS.

AND SO WE JUST THANK HIM FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES.

AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE INTERNS AS WELL. HELLO, COMMISSIONERS COURT, THIS IS DEBORAH CARTER WITH BEXAR COUNTY ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT'S MY HONOR TO RECOGNIZE MARIA, OUR INTERN FROM ALAMO COLLEGES.

SHE RECENTLY TURNED 20 YEARS OLD AND HAS BEEN HELPING US WITH MARKETING CAREER FAIRS AND SPECIFICALLY OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND VIDEOS.

AND JUDGE, YOU LIKED ONE OF HER POSTS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY 19 YEAR OLDS HAVE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT ARE LIKING THEIR POSTS, BUT PLEASE FOLLOW TEXAS FAST TRACK ON INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK AND X.

ALL OF THOSE POSTS ARE DONE BY MARIA AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL.

THANK YOU. THEN OUR FINAL ONE IS FOR THE MAC MEMBERS OF COURT JIM BETHKE, DIRECTOR OF THE SCIENCE COUNCIL PROGRAM. I JUST WANT TO THANK DIRECTOR WATSON AND EACH ONE OF YOU FOR REALLY BUILDING A METAPHORICAL BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS EDUCATION AND EMPLOYMENT. I'D LIKE FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE, RAISE YOUR HANDS.

I CAN SAY THIS PROGRAM IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US.

AND THANK YOU FOR SETTING IT UP AND ALAMO COLLEGES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JACKIE. YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IN.

COME ON. I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. OKAY. SORRY.

I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. MY NAME IS JACKIE IBARRA. I'M THE PROGRAM SUPPORT SERVICES MANAGER FOR ECONOMIC COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS IS NATASHA. SHE HAS BEEN INTERNING WITH OUR DIVISION AND SHE HAS BEEN DOING SOME INCREDIBLE WORK.

SHE IS A COMPUTER SCIENCE MAJOR. AND SHE GOES TO THE ALAMO COLLEGE SACHSE.

AND SHE'S GOT A TWO YEAR OLD LITTLE GIRL, AND SHE IS DARLING.

BUT WHAT SHE'S DOING FOR US IS WE HAVE A DASHBOARD THAT WE'VE CREATED FOR OUR SOCIAL SERVICES, FOR OUR CASE MANAGEMENT CASES, AND SHE HAS BEEN PUTTING ALL THE ALL THAT INFORMATION INTO THIS DASHBOARD SO WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME DATA, DATA THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR. SO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

TO BE ABLE TO INTERN HERE. AND I WANT TO JUST THANK THE PROGRAM SUPPORT SERVICES DIVISION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. AND, OF COURSE, WE RECOGNIZE OUR INTERNS, RIVER NIGHTINGALE, AS WELL AS CHRISTA. AND THEN WE JUST HAVE ONE FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ALL THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WANT TO GET INVOLVED.

LINDA. LET'S MAKE THIS GREAT ANNOUNCEMENT. GOOD MORNING.

SO WE LEARNED EARLY ON THAT STUDENTS WERE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FUNCTIONS OF THE COUNTY.

AND SO, ALONG WITH ALAMO COLLEGES, WE DECIDED TO HAVE A HIRING FAIR WHERE WE INVITED THE VARIOUS OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS TO COME OUT TO BE ABLE TO PERSONALLY INTERVIEW THOSE STUDENTS INTERESTED IN INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE'VE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT THAT OUR LAST MATCHING FAIR, WE WERE ABLE TO PLACE OVER 50 INTERNS IN THAT ONE MATCHING FAIR.

OUR NEXT MATCHING FAIR WILL BE JUNE THE 11TH FROM 9 A.M.

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WE INVITE ALL OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN HOSTING AN INTERN TO REACH OUT TO THE SMALL BUSINESS DEPARTMENT, AND WE'LL HAVE THEM ATTEND THAT DAY. THANK YOU.

AND NOW THE GREAT NEWS. THE MOTION APPROVAL TO EXTEND THE BEXAR COUNTY ALAMO COLLEGES COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, ALAMO COLLEGE STUDENT EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM IN BEXAR COUNTY AGREEMENT, AND THE ESTIMATED TOTAL AMOUNT OF $65,520, AS REQUESTED BY THE SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP DEPARTMENT.

MOVE FOR APPROVAL. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A FEW WORDS, AND THEN I'LL YIELD. I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR.

BUT RIGHT NOW I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO RENEE AND ALL THOSE THAT HAVE MADE THIS PROGRAM.

THIS IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS I AM MOST EXCITED ABOUT, MOST PLEASED ABOUT.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, MANY OF THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE ALAMO STUDENT INTERNSHIPS, INCLUDING MY OFFICE. THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP, ALAMO COLLEGE STUDENTS GAIN MENTORS, LEARN ABOUT CAREERS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, SPECIFICALLY COUNTY GOVERNMENT, WHILE ALSO PROVIDING HELPING HANDS IN THIS OFFICE AND DOING MEANINGFUL WORK IN THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE.

I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY INTERN, JASMINE. WHERE ARE YOU AT? COME STEP FORWARD. BE RECOGNIZED AS SHE WORKS CLOSELY WITH MY EXECUTIVE TEAM.

SHE'S LEARNING HOW THE OFFICE WORKS, SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES.

AGAIN, THANK YOU RENEE. THANK YOU TO ALL THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS THAT PARTICIPATE.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE YET TO PARTICIPATE, YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH SOME OF THE BRIGHTEST STUDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND PUTTING THEM ON A PATH TO A MEANINGFUL LIFE CAREER. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE ALAMO COLLEGE DISTRICT LEADERSHIP WITH DOCTOR MIKE FLORES AND THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, TRACY CROSS, AND ALL THOSE AT THE COLLEGE DISTRICT THAT HAVE REALLY MADE THIS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND THE AND OUR ALAMO COLLEGE DISTRICT.

SO I HAD MY SAY. I YIELD THE FLOOR TO COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. I WANT TO THANK RENEE AND THE WHOLE TEAM FOR PUTTING THIS INTO THE COUNTY'S FEATHERS IN THE CAP.

THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE THAT WE WE SHARE WITH YOU.

THANK YOU FOR GETTING THESE YOUNG PEOPLE INTO THE COUNTY.

WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SILVER TSUNAMI, A BABY BOOMERS WHO WILL BE RETIRING.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WELCOME OUR GEN Z AND WHATEVER GENERATION THEY MAY BE TO THE COUNTY'S FUNCTIONS, BECAUSE WE NEED THEM. AND WE HAVE A CITY AND A COUNTY WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUTH WHO DON'T HAVE JOBS, WHO ARE UNINVOLVED, AND THIS IS A WAY THAT THEY CAN BE INVOLVED AND ALLEVIATE SOME POVERTY.

CERTAINLY, I THINK MOST OF US AS COLLEGE STUDENTS WERE PRETTY POOR, AND WE NEEDED THE JOBS.

AND WE APPRECIATE WHEN THE JOBS ARE PRACTICAL TO WHAT WE'RE STUDYING AND WHAT OUR PASSIONS MIGHT BE.

SO THROUGH THESE OPPORTUNITIES, WE ARE HELPING NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE HELPING THE COUNTY AT THE SAME TIME.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONLY A FEW MORE DAYS WITH DAVID MARQUEZ, BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM STARTING THE HIGH SCHOOL INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AT THE COUNTY AND MOVING THAT FORWARD. AND THAT PROGRAM IS AND THIS PROGRAM ARE BUILDING UPON THAT, AS WELL AS THE ARTS FUND THAT HELPS ARTS ORGANIZATIONS WITH THEIR INTERNSHIPS.

SO ALL OF THESE THINGS, THE COUNTY'S COME A LONG WAY FROM THE POINT WHERE I LEANED OVER TO DAVID AT THE PEARL AND WE WERE AT AN EVENT, I SAID, DO WE HAVE AN INTERN PROGRAM AT THE COUNTY.

HE GOES, NO. I SAID, WELL, WE NEED TO GET ONE GOING.

AND WE DID. AND THANK YOU, RENEE, FOR TAKING IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL WITH THE COLLEGE DISTRICT.

IT'S A PHENOMENAL PARTNERSHIP, AND WE'RE SO PROUD OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS FOR WELCOMING THESE INTERNS.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE THE PRESENTATION.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT COST EFFECTIVE WAY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO ATTRACT AND YOU KNOW, HIRE YOUNG TALENT. I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, JUST IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS.

SO THIS IS A YEAR ROUND PROGRAM, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT DOES IT KIND OF FLUCTUATE THEN OVER TIME LIKE SUMMERTIME.

KIND OF THE THE PEAK. AND BUT THEN YOU HAVE SPRING AND FALL INTERNS AS WELL.

OR IT'S THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THEY HAVE A NINE MONTH PLACEMENT WHICH IS NOT TIED TO THE STUDY.

OKAY. SO THEY CAN COME IN AT ANY TIME AS LONG AS THEY'RE ENROLLED IN AT LEAST ONE HOUR OF ANY COLLEGE CAMPUS AT ALAMO COLLEGES.

SO THERE ARE SPIKES UP AND DOWN DEPENDING ON WHEN THEY GRADUATE.

LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SO MANY WHO HAVE GRADUATED.

ONE OF OUR FORMER INTERNS WHO WAS A PRESIDENTIAL AMBASSADOR, JANETTE.

SHE'S HERE. SHE JUST GRADUATED, BUT SHE LEFT A FEW MONTHS AGO FROM OUR OFFICE.

SO IT'S UP AND DOWN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. UNDERSTOOD.

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OKAY. BUT 50. WE'RE FUNDING 50 SPOTS. CORRECT.

CORRECT. BUT THEN I SAW THAT ACTUALLY THERE'S BEEN 106 REQUESTED.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THOSE NUMBERS AND AND ULTIMATELY IF MORE OF THOSE REQUESTED POSITIONS WORK OUT AND ARE MATCHED, THEN THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH WILL COME BACK TO YOU LIKE WE'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS.

BUT MOST OF THE TIME AT THE JOB FAIR, THE DEPARTMENTS FIGHT.

THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE JOB FAIR TO GET MATCHED, BECAUSE THOSE DECISIONS ARE SOMETIMES MADE RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

THE STUDENTS ARE SHOWING UP. THEY'RE MEETING WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THE WAY THAT THE COLLEGES OUTLINES HOW THE MATCH IS MADE IS WHAT THEIR STUDY IS, WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND. AND THEN THE DEPARTMENTS DO AN ACTUAL JOB DESCRIPTION. AND THEN THERE'S A MATCH BY THE BY THE COLLEGE STAFF.

SO THEN WHEN THEY GET THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THEY AND THEN SOME OF THE STUDENTS WILL COME IN FOR A MONTH.

THEY MAY TRANSFER TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN AND HOW THE MATCH WORKS OUT.

OKAY. NO THAT'S GREAT. OBVIOUSLY, I JUST DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE CONSTRAINTS ON OUR END.

YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS YOU KNOW, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IS FUNDED BY ALAMO COLLEGES WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FILL AS MANY OF THOSE REQUESTS AS POSSIBLE. YOU WILL HEAR FROM US. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. I'M GOOD. I JUST WILL WEIGH IN.

AND THANK YOU. RENEE. I KNOW SOMETIMES WE OVERUSE WIN WIN, BUT THIS IS REALLY ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS.

A GOOD EXAMPLE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH ALAMO COLLEGES.

AND THE OTHER WIN IS GETTING THESE YOUNG FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE THEIR THEIR FUTURE CAREERS AND HOPEFULLY PICK UP SOME TALENT HERE AT THE COUNTY AS WELL. SO THANK YOU, RENEE, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU FOR CONTINUING YOUR EDUCATION, NOT JUST IN THE CLASSROOM, BUT HERE IN THE WORKFORCE.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. SO INTERNSHIPS IS SOMETHING I REALLY BELIEVE IN.

SO BEFORE WE HAD THIS PROGRAM, I CONTACTED SCHOOLS ON MY OWN TO GET INTERNS.

AND JUAN MORENO, I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE, BUT HE STARTED AS AN INTERN IN MY OFFICE AND KEPT THEM ON.

SO HE'S BEEN WITH ME FOR THREE YEARS NOW. SO TO ALL THE INTERNS, THANK YOU FOR USING THIS TIME AND FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO STEP UP.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK ARMANDO. WHERE'S ARMANDO? THERE HE IS. SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING. I DIDN'T GET YOUR INTERNS FIRST NAME, BUT THANK YOU FOR SHARING HIS STORY.

AND YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO ENGINEERING. SO WE KNOW A LOT OF ENGINEERING COMPANIES SELL AND THEY HAVE INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS. SO LET US CONTACT MY OFFICE AND LET US KNOW AND WE CAN PUT YOU IN CONTACT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT I BELIEVE THERE'S A.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

KEEP ON WORKING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, LET US GO. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO INDIVIDUAL AND WE'LL TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 50

[50. Presentation, discussion, and appropriate action regarding the FY 2025-26 - FY 2029-30 Long-Range Financial Forecasts for the General and Debt Service Funds. (Estimated Presentation Time: 30 minutes) (Tina Smith Dean)]

TINA, IS THAT YOU? NO, TANYA? YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

TANYA. YOU GOT THREE MINUTES. GOT IT. DON'T TELL ME TWICE.

MAYBE FOUR. WE'LL GIVE HER SOME SLACK. WE'LL LET HER TALK A LITTLE LONGER.

I TALK PRETTY FAST. I THINK I CAN DO IT. HEY, GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME. MY NAME IS TANYA GAITAN, BUDGET AND FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I'LL BE PRESENTING THE LONG RANGE FINANCIAL FORECAST TODAY.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. BEGINNING WITH THE GENERAL FUND, THE LONG RANGE FINANCIAL FORECAST IS DEVELOPED ANNUALLY TO PROVIDE YOU AND THE PUBLIC WITH THE LONG TERM HEALTH OF THE GENERAL FUND. THIS FORECAST IS BASED ON SECOND QUARTER ESTIMATES, AND IT'S USING YEAR TO DATE DATA FOR EXPENDITURES AS WELL AS FOR REVENUES.

BASED ON THE AUDITOR'S FINAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020.

FOR THE GENERAL FUND BEGAN THE FISCAL YEAR WITH AN ADDITIONAL $21.4 MILLION MORE THAN ANTICIPATED INTO FISCAL YEAR 2025.

THE FUNDING IS NEEDED TO MEET FUTURE YEARS EXPENDITURES, WHICH I WILL DISCUSS LATER ON IN THIS PRESENTATION.

THIS ADDITIONAL BALANCE IS DUE TO RECEIVING AN ADDITIONAL $34.8 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.

THIS IS MOSTLY DUE TO A PROPERTY. EXCUSE ME? INVESTMENT INTERESTS AT 14 MILLION, 9.4 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR PROPERTY TAXES AND $4.5

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ADDITIONALLY THAN ANTICIPATED, THAN ANTICIPATED.

ADDITIONALLY, OUR EXPENDITURES WERE ESTIMATED AT $13.4 MILLION MORE THAN ANTICIPATED.

THIS WAS DUE TO THE ARPA EXPENDITURES THAT WERE BOOKED IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.

FOR, ALTHOUGH THIS WAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, THIS DOES NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR ENDING BALANCE AS WE BUDGETED THOSE PROJECTS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR AS WELL AS THAT REVENUE CARRYING FORWARD.

IN DECEMBER, COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVED A ONE TIME TRANSFER OF $190.3 MILLION TO THE GENERAL FUND AND COMMITTED THAT FUNDING TO REVENUE REPLACEMENT.

THIS INCREASED OUR GENERAL FUND FROM $624.3 MILLION TO $814.6 MILLION.

CONTINUING ON TO REVENUES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, REVENUES ARE ESTIMATED TO BE $44.9 MILLION, HIGHER THAN CERTIFIED REVENUES. MORE THAN HALF OF THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT IS DUE TO INVESTMENTS AT $26.8 MILLION, AND THE OTHER SOURCES INCLUDED ARE $5 MILLION IN SERVICE FEES, $3.5 MILLION IN INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE, $2.7 $7 MILLION IN MIXED BEVERAGE TAX AND $2.2 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX AND OTHER ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

EXPENDITURE ESTIMATES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 ARE PROJECTED TO HAVE $81.7 MILLION IN SAVINGS.

THE GENERAL FUND WILL BE CARRYING OVER THE $83.6 MILLION IN ARPA REVENUE REPLACEMENT INTO FISCAL YEAR 2026.

SINCE THESE ARPA PROJECTS ARE MULTI-YEAR AND WILL NEED TO HAVE TIME TO COMPLETE THE PROJECTS, THESE WERE REALLOCATED AGAIN FROM THE GENERAL FROM THE ARPA FUND INTO THE GENERAL FUND, AND IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEADLINE TO OBLIGATE THE FUNDING IN DECEMBER 2024, COMMISSIONERS COURT DECIDED TO TRANSFER THAT MONEY OVER.

MOVING ON TO PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS OUR PRIMARY REVENUE SOURCE, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 80% OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE.

THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS PROVIDED THEIR FIRST PRELIMINARY REPORT A FEW WEEKS AGO, AT THE LAST WEEK OF APRIL.

THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE THE FINAL REVENUE CERTIFICATIONS AT THE END OF JULY.

WE WILL BE RECEIVING UPDATED REPORTS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THIS WILL BE THE BASIS OF OUR PROPERTY TAX CALCULATIONS FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE GENERAL FUND IS PROJECTED TO COLLECT $2.2 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES THIS FISCAL YEAR.

THE PRELIMINARY BCAD REPORT SHOWS AN INCREASE OF 5.1% IN THE APRIL REPORT, WHICH IS BEFORE THE FINAL PROTESTS ARE RESOLVED.

AT THAT TIME, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE FINAL PROTEST SINCE THE DEADLINE WAS MID-MAY.

BASED ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S TRENDS ON NET TAXABLE VALUES, WE DECREASE ABOUT 1.6 TO 2% FROM APRIL TO JULY.

BASED ON THOSE TRENDS, PROPERTY TAXES ARE NOW PROJECTED TO GROW BETWEEN 3 TO 3.5% FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.

SOME FACTORS THAT IMPACT PROPERTY TAX REVENUES INCLUDE NEW BUILDING PERMITS, NEW BUILDING AVERAGE VALUES, HOME SALES INVENTORY, AND AVERAGE SALES PRICE.

AND THEN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES I WILL PRESENT TO YOU WITH SOME DATA FROM THE TEXAS REAL ESTATE RESEARCH CENTER.

THIS FIRST GRAPH SHOWS BUILDING PERMITS WHICH REPRESENT NEW PRIVATELY OWNED RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTIONS IN BEXAR COUNTY, MONTHLY SINCE FISCAL YEAR OR SINCE CALENDAR YEAR 2021.

THE PURPLE LINE ON THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE MONTH OF DATA FROM THE MONTH THROUGH MARCH.

EXCUSE ME FOR 2025. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE TRENDING NORMALLY COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.

THIS GRAPH IS THE AVERAGE VALUES FOR THE SAME PERIOD IN FISCAL YEAR 2023, WHICH IS THE BLUE LINE.

YOU WILL NOTICE A SIGNIFICANT JUMP FROM MARCH TO APRIL AND THEY HAVE STAYED STEADY SINCE.

IN 2025. WE HAVE THE HIGHEST VALUES IN PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT IT IS TRENDING SIMILARLY TO 2024.

THIS NEXT GRAPH SHOWS AVERAGE SALES FOR THE SAME TIME FRAME.

THIS DATA SHOWS THAT 2025, WHICH IS THE YELLOW LINE, STARTED SIMILARLY TO PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT IT'S BEGINNING TO SLOW DOWN IN THE MONTH OF MARCH.

THIS NEXT GRAPH SHOWS MONTH'S INVENTORY IN 2025, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE YELLOW LINE.

THIS IS THE HIGHEST COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS, HOVERING BETWEEN 4 TO 5 MONTHS, WHICH SHOWS THAT SALES ARE CONTINUING TO SLOW DOWN IN BEXAR COUNTY. THIS NEXT GRAPH SHOWS AVERAGE PRICES, WHICH IS THE YELLOW LINE FOR 2025.

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GENERALLY, BEXAR COUNTY IS SHOWING SLOWER GROWTH IN THE HOUSING MARKET.

NEW HOMES AND EXISTING HOME, SALES ARE STARTING TO STABILIZE.

HOWEVER, HOME SALES HAVE SLOWED DOWN AND HOMES ARE STAYING ON THE MARKET LONGER.

BUT COLLECTIVELY, THE DATA IS SIMPLY SHOWING THAT WE'RE STABILIZING THAT GROWTH THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED LAST THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHICH HAS BEEN PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. BASED ON ALL THIS INFORMATION, WE HAVE DEVELOPED OUR PROPERTY TAX ASSUMPTIONS AT 3% WITHIN THE LONG RANGE FINANCIAL FORECAST.

THIS ASSUMES 2% FOR PROPERTY NEW PROPERTY GROWTH AND 1% FOR THE EXISTING PROPERTIES.

THE FORECAST ALSO ASSUMES INVESTMENT INTERESTS, WHICH WILL BEGIN TO SLOW DOWN DUE TO THE LOW INTEREST RATES, AND ALL OTHER GENERAL FUND REVENUE SOURCES ARE BASED OFF OF HISTORICAL TRENDS.

EXPENDITURE. EXPENDITURE ASSUMPTIONS ARE BASED ON HISTORICAL TRENDS.

EXCUSE ME. HISTORICAL TRENDS AS WELL TO INCLUDE TRAVEL SUPPLIES, OPERATIONAL EXPENSES AND CASH FUNDED CAPITAL.

THE BUDGET OFFICE IS ALSO ANTICIPATING SOME SIGNIFICANT FUTURE EXPENSES OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO INCLUDE HEALTH INSURANCE, EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION, SHERIFF'S OVERTIME AND FLSA COSTS, AND NEW PROGRAM CHANGES.

BASED ON ALL THOSE ASSUMPTIONS, THIS GENERAL FUND GRAPH SHOWS THAT OUR PROJECTED REVENUES WILL BE.

OUR EXPENDITURES WILL EXCEED BY 2029. THE RED LINE REPRESENTS FUNDS REQUIRED AND THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS FUNDS AVAILABLE.

IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE GENERAL FUND IS STRUCTURALLY BALANCED WITH $669 MILLION IN REVENUE AND $660 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES.

HOWEVER, IN BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR 2027, OUR EXPENDITURES WILL BEGIN TO EXCEED THE REVENUES THE GENERAL FUND WILL THEN REQUIRE TO BE SUBSIDIZED BY OUR FUND BALANCE DUE TO THE SHORTAGE IN REVENUES TO CONTINUE TO COVER THOSE EXPENDITURES.

SO NOW THE BUDGET OFFICE NEEDS TO FOCUS ON FINDING RECURRING CUTS FOR FUTURE YEARS.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ONE OF THOSE EXPENDITURES IS ADJUSTING THE CURRENT HEALTH PLAN WITH THE HELP OF OUR HEALTH INSURANCE CONSULTANT TO CUT COSTS BY 10%.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN SINCE FISCAL YEAR 2020, AND SOME OF THOSE CHANGES COULD INCLUDE CHANGES TO THE PREMIUMS, CO-PAYS, DEDUCTIBLES AND ALSO TO ASSESS THE IMPACT OF THE FAVORED NATION DRUG PRICING.

WE ALSO RECOMMEND CAPPING THE PROGRAM CHANGES TO $5 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.

OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, THE COST OF PROGRAM PROGRAM CHANGES HAS DRASTICALLY INCREASED UP TO $15 MILLION LAST FISCAL OR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

THE BUDGET OFFICE ALSO RECOMMENDS REDUCING OVERTIME AND FLSA PAYMENTS BY $5 MILLION WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THE OFFICE IS CURRENTLY SPENDING ABOUT $22 MILLION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING REVIEWING ALSO FUTURE ARPA PROGRAMS THAT WERE CARRIED OVER INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

NOW MOVE ON TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. WE ARE ASSUMING THE SAME ASSUMPTIONS FOR PROPERTY TAXES AT 3%.

WE ALSO ASSUME NO ISSUANCES UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 2027 TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE TEN YEAR CAPITAL PROGRAM.

THIS ALSO ASSUMES THAT HB 19 WOULD NOT BE PASSED, WHICH WOULD CAUSE A LOT OF LIMITATIONS TO ISSUING OUR DEBT.

BASED ON THOSE ASSUMPTIONS. THIS IS OUR DEBT SERVICE LONG RANGE FINANCIAL FORECAST.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE WILL BE PRETTY HEALTHY ALL THE WAY THROUGH 3037 BECOMING PRETTY CLOSE AROUND FISCAL YEAR 3035.

THAT'S THE COMPLETION OF MY PRESENTATION. THIS GRAPH RIGHT HERE JUST SHOWS THE TENTATIVE BUDGET CALENDAR FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

WE ARE IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW OF COLLECTING ALL THE REQUESTS FROM OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS AND MEETING WITH THEM IN JULY.

WE'LL BE WORKING ON RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROVIDING THOSE TO THE OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS AT THE END OF JULY.

SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT DATES INCLUDE PROPOSING THE BUDGET ON AUGUST 19TH AND THEN ADOPTING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE. MR..

RUDY. HEY, TANYA. THANK YOU FOR FOR WALKING US THROUGH THAT.

I GOT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. I'LL TRY TO WORK THROUGH THEM EXPEDITIOUSLY HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO TO BRING IT UP AS A RECURRING ITEM.

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SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. IF WE GO BACK TO SLIDE SIX.

SO THE EXPENDITURE IS BEING SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE ARPA PROCESS HAS BEEN SLOW AND THOSE ARPA EXPENDITURES ARE BEING ROLLED INTO NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT? CORRECT. YES. SO WE MOVED OVER THE ALLOCATIONS.

THOSE WERE FOR MULTI YEARS. SO IT WAS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE END OF 2026 CALENDAR YEAR.

OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. SLIDE EIGHT. SO LOOKING AT THE HISTORICAL OR THE PROJECTED GROWTH RATE BEING DOWN IN THE 3 TO 3.5% RANGE.

I WAS HOPING THAT YOU COULD EDUCATE US ON THE HISTORY THERE AND KIND OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST.

I KNOW FOR SEVERAL YEARS WE SAW SOME REAL SIGNIFICANT INCREASES ON THE APPRAISAL SIDE, WHICH WE KIND OF BALANCED OUT WITH HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE HISTORICALLY VERSUS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING GOING FORWARD? SO WE USED TO HOVER WHEN WE WERE PRETTY STABLE BETWEEN LIKE 3 TO 5%.

AND THEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THE PANDEMIC, WE JUMPED UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE COURT DECIDED TO DO THE EXEMPTIONS, BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES WERE INCREASING.

EVEN THE COMMISSIONERS WERE CUTTING OR KEEPING THE TAX RATE FLAT.

SO BASED OFF OF THE REPORTS THAT WE RECEIVE, WE TYPICALLY GET OUR FIRST REPORT IN APRIL AND WE USUALLY LOSE BETWEEN 1.5 TO 2%. LAST YEAR WAS AN ANOMALY. WE LOST A LOT MORE, BUT I THINK THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PROTESTS RIGHT FROM THE GET THIS YEAR.

WE'RE STARTING TO STABILIZE EVEN MORE. YEAH. AND I THINK THERE WAS A CHANGE IN POLICY AT BCAD WITH REGARD TO YOU.

IF YOU CHALLENGED AND IT WAS RESOLVED IN YOUR FAVOR, THEN YOU COULDN'T.

THAT APPRAISAL COULDN'T CHANGE IN THAT YEAR OR THAT FOLLOWING YEAR.

SO WILL THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT, DO YOU THINK, ON THAT ONE AND A HALF TO 2% NUMBER? I BELIEVE THAT WILL HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT NEXT YEAR.

I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR WHERE THEY'LL IMPLEMENT THAT. SO IF YOU DO PROCESS A PROTEST THAT WILL IMPACT NEXT CALENDAR YEAR.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER. YES. SORRY, I JUST WANT TO JUMP IN AND COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE WHAT THE NET EFFECT OF THAT COULD BE IS THAT, LET'S SAY, DAVID, PROTEST IS VALUATION AND WINS.

SO I DON'T HAVE TO PROTEST IT NEXT YEAR. BUT LET'S SAY THE ACTUAL MARKET VALUE OF MY PROPERTY WENT UP.

THAT MEANS THE FOLLOWING YEAR I COULD SEE A VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.

AND I'D HAVE TO PROTEST THAT AGAIN. THAT THE MARKET DOESN'T CHANGE JUST BECAUSE WE CHANGE WHAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES.

THE MARKET IS THE MARKET. SO YEAH, BUT IT DOES TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OF THE CHALLENGE HERE.

AND I'M NOT I'M NOT ARGUING THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE POTENTIAL TWO YEARS FROM NOW FOR ME IS TO SEE A MUCH GREATER INCREASE AS THEY TRY TO CATCH UP TO WHAT THE ACTUAL MARKET VALUE WAS. UNDERSTOOD.

THAT MAKES SENSE. SLIDE 11. YOU MENTIONED THE JUMP IN 23 IN APRIL.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO POINT TO ON THAT? THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THAT MONTH.

I DON'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE A CHANGE IN PERMITTING OR PROCESS.

I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM 250 TO 280 OVER THE COURSE OF ONE MONTH.

IN FIVE YEARS. THAT'S BY FAR THE BIGGEST JUMP THAT THAT WE SEE ON ANY OF THE DATA THERE? YEAH. THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS JUST THERE'S A LOT OF NEW BUILDS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, LIKE BIG NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE POPPING UP. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY REQUEST INFORMATION ON WHY WE THINK THAT JUMPED UP JUST TO GET MORE SOLID DATA.

THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. CONTINUING TO MOVE ON, I THINK ON SLIDE 17, YOU TALKED ABOUT EXPENDITURE ASSUMPTIONS, SIGNIFICANT UPCOMING EXPENSES.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT HERE THE JAIL BED CONVERSATION.

SO THE LAST TIME I DID AN ANNUALIZED COST THAT WAS GOING TO BE $7 MILLION.

AND SO FAR IT'S ONLY CONTINUED TO GROW. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR.

AND ALSO, AGAIN, I HOPE WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THAT GOING FORWARD.

AS A BIG EXPENDITURE FOR BEXAR COUNTY. GOING ON TO 18.

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THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR. ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO THE BLUE LINE IS STEEPER HERE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

BUT I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING HERE IS THAT WE HAVE MOVED THAT 160, 190 FROM ARPA INTO THE GENERAL FUND. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING THAT DOWN.

BUT IT'S SHOWING UP HERE IN THE BLUE LINE NOW.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO SLIDE 21. I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE IT RIGHT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROGRAM CHANGES.

WE BROKE THIS OUT THOUGH BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM CHANGES AND OTHER PROGRAM CHANGES, I ASSUME THE VAST MAJORITY WOULD BE WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? THEY DO TYPICALLY HAVE THE MOST, ALONG WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT THEY ARE ONE OF THE LARGER OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS.

OKAY. LIKE 3 MILLION. RIGHT? 3.5 MILLION LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.

YEAH. I'LL HAVE TO CHECK. COMMISSIONER, I THINK THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT, BECAUSE WE DO PUT A LOT OF THE POSITIONS AND CONTINGENCIES AS WELL. SO WE HAVE TO COUNT THAT AS WELL. OKAY. WELL, OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND PERSONNEL COSTS ARE A HUGE PORTION HERE AND WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A NECESSITY ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT POSITIONS VERSUS OTHER PROGRAM CHANGES FOR THE COUNTY. SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. ALMOST DONE.

SLIDE 22. SO CLEARLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF OVERTIME IN FLSA SAY OUT THERE, WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THIS AT THE JAIL WHEN IT COMES TO FILLING VACANT POSITIONS.

SO AT LEAST WE WE ARE ARE PAYING REGULAR TIME AND NOT TIME AND A HALF THERE.

HAVE WE ENGAGED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS THIS MORE BROADLY GOING FORWARD? SO AS I TOLD YOU WHEN WE HAD OUR BRIEFING, TINA AND TANYA HAVE SOME IDEAS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO PUBLIC WITH THEY REQUIRE THE COOPERATION OF THE SHERIFF TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM FIRST AND THEN BRING THEM FORWARD TO THE COURT.

OKAY. JUST OUT OF PROFESSIONAL COURTESY, IT'S HIS PURVIEW.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO WORK, HE WOULD HAVE TO BE SUPPORTIVE.

AND I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

NO. UNDERSTOOD. AND I HOPE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE SHERIFF AND HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM AND, YOU KNOW, PARTNER, ON WORKING ON THIS TOGETHER SO WE CAN FIND WAYS TO BRING THIS COST DOWN.

GOING FORWARD. AND THE THE LAST ITEM I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP ON THE DEBT SERVICE.

SO ON 23, IT SAYS NO NEW ISSUANCE UNTIL FY 2627.

I KNOW WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT PUSHING OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THEN LOOKING AT THE GRAPH ON 24, IT LOOKS LIKE LITERALLY WE STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AVAILABLE EVEN TILL 2030 AND BEYOND.

THAT SUGGESTS TO ME, IS THERE STILL NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO HOLD OFF ON NEW DEBT ISSUANCE TO FUTURE YEARS? IT WILL DEPEND ON THE NEED OF THE OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS ON THEIR CASH FLOW.

SO THE FIRST PRIORITY THAT WE HAVE IS THEY NEED TO SPEND DOWN THEIR CURRENT ISSUANCES, AND THEN WE'LL REEVALUATE, WHICH WE DO EVERY YEAR TO SEE HOW MUCH FUNDING THEY WILL NEED.

SO IT KIND OF BALANCES OUT WITH THAT. TINA. TANYA, DO YOU HAVE IS IT 100 MILLION IN CASH? 200 MILLION IN UNSPENT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE SCOPE OF THAT? I BELIEVE I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU, BUT IT'S IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS FOR SURE THAT WE HAVE LEFT TO SPEND.

IT'S MORE THAN THAT. YEAH. AND YES, IT'S HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF UNSPENT ISSUED CASH.

SO YEAH, MY ONLY POINT JUST BEING THAT IF WE DO HAVE THAT RESERVE, WHETHER IT'S THIS NUMBER THAT'S IN THE GRAPH OR WHETHER IT'S ANOTHER NUMBER, WHATEVER IT WOULD SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT WE STILL HAVE MORE FUNDS TO, TO WORK THROUGH BEFORE WE DO NEW DEBT ISSUANCE, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING, DAVID, WAS OBVIOUSLY WE'D RATHER NOT ISSUE THAT DEBT, FIRST OF ALL, FOR A BOND RATING. SECOND OF ALL, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S JUST SITTING THERE.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO INVEST THAT WISELY, BUT WE WOULDN'T ISSUE THAT DEBT IF WE DIDN'T NEED IT.

AND THE NUMBERS HERE ARE SUGGESTING THAT BASED ON OUR CURRENT PLAN, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE NEED IT IN THE NEAR TERM.

IS THAT FAIR? OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

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TANYA, THANKS FOR THE FOR THE OVERVIEW. I KNOW THIS IS REALLY KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION FOR US.

AND YOU LAID OUT KIND OF THE TIMELINE, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS, BUT LET ME JUST ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. GOING BACK TO, I GUESS, THE THE INITIAL ASSUMPTION ON PROPERTY TAX GROWTH I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT APPLES AND APPLES.

SO COMPARING TO WHAT THE CITY FORECASTED RECENTLY, THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT STREAMS OF REVENUE, BUT FOCUSING JUST ON PROPERTY TAX GROWTH, I THINK THEIR ASSUMPTION WAS A LITTLE BIT LOWER.

2% MAYBE. IS THAT, I GUESS, DISCREPANCY MORE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE GROWTH IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AREAS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO? IS THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONER. SO WE DID LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.

OURS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. BUT THEY'RE HOVERING AROUND, LIKE, I BELIEVE, 2 BILLION IN NEW VALUES.

WE'RE CLOSE TO 7 TO 8 BILLION. WE ALSO HAVE THEIR PROTESTS VARIED, WHICH THOSE WERE PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF THEIR VALUES COMPARED TO OURS. BUT THEN IT SWITCHED THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. OKAY. IT'S DUE TO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. ON SLIDE FIVE.

AS A REFRESHER, CAN YOU TELL ME AGAIN THE AN EXAMPLE OF THE THOSE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE DOLLARS.

SO MAJORITY OF THAT REVENUE ARE DUE TO WHEAT TAX FOR OTHER ENTITIES LIKE SMALLER CITIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO WE CHARGE. I THINK IT'S A CHARGE OF ACCOUNTS THAT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS THAT WE'RE TAXING THEM ON.

SO THE TAX OFFICE MANAGES THAT. ANOTHER REASON WHY IT WOULD BE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE IS JUST RECEIVING MONEY FROM EXACTLY THAT FROM ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL REVENUE, BUT MAJORITY OF IT IS DUE TO THOSE TAXED ACCOUNTS THAT WE MANAGE FOR THEM AND WE CHARGE THEM.

I DON'T KNOW THE FEES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, AND THOSE STAY RELATIVELY FLAT YEAR OVER YEAR USUALLY.

YEAH, THEY'RE IN THE COUPLE MILLIONS DEPENDING ON THE AGENCY.

OKAY. GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX I KNOW IT WON'T IMPACT NECESSARILY THIS YEAR, BUT EVEN GOING FORWARD YOU KNOW, ASSUMING WE'RE IN THAT 3 TO 3.5% GROWTH, THERE ARE IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THIS SESSION SOME BILLS THAT MAY IMPACT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

SO EVEN IF WE'RE COLLECTING AND ASSUMING THAT THAT 3% NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER, IT MAY RESULT IN A LOWER REVENUE COLLECTED BECAUSE OF THAT. SO I KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT FOCUSING IT THIS YEAR, BUT SOMETHING TO BE MINDFUL OF.

I THINK MOVING FORWARD IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT RELIEF FOR THE HOMEOWNER, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE LESS DOLLARS FOR US IN REVENUES.

SO I ASSUME YOU GUYS ARE STARTING TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS YOU DO SOME OF THE FORECASTING BEYOND THE NEXT YEAR.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, WE ARE WE'RE LOOKING FORTUNATELY, WHAT I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SESSION IS AN INCREASE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. BUT IF THAT WERE TO CHANGE TO BE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES, YES, IT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT.

OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WE WERE CONSIDERING THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD THEN IMPACT, I THINK, WHAT YOU LAID OUT IN SLIDE 18, IN TERMS OF WHEN THOSE THOSE, THOSE CROSS I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD LET ME ASK BRIEFLY ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE PIECE. I KNOW THAT CONTINUITY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES IS IS SIGNIFICANT.

IT'S A MAJOR FACTOR NOT HAVING TO CHANGE DOCTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I KNOW IT'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT COST FOR US.

AND YOU MENTIONED LOOKING FOR WAYS TO TO REDUCE THOSE COSTS.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID AN RFP FOR, FOR THAT PROGRAM? WAS IT A FEW YEARS AGO? YEAH, IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO.

AND WE'RE WE'RE GETTING READY TO BRING AN ITEM TO COURT TO DO EXERCISE.

ONE OF THE OPTIONS TO RENEW FOR ONE YEAR. SO WHEN YOU DO THAT, ARE YOU HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CURRENT PROVIDER ABOUT HOW TO REDUCE THOSE COSTS, OR IS IT JUST SIMPLY AN EXTENSION? IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THEY SIMPLY OPERATE THE PLAN FOR US.

WE DESIGNED THE PLAN. SO YOU KNOW YEAH, WE'RE NOT BUYING WE'RE NOT BUYING.

AETNA'S PLAN. WE HAVE OUR OWN PLAN, RIGHT? YEAH.

WHAT WE'RE BUYING IS ACCESS TO THEIR PRICING NETWORK.

GOTCHA. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WITH OUR WITH OUR EMPLOYEES WE'RE ALWAYS CONSCIOUS OF WHAT IS OUT OF

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BUT THEN IF INSURANCE GOES UP, IT EITHER WASHES OR, YOU KNOW, ENDS UP IN A, IN A NET PAY DECREASE.

SO I'M I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE TO HELP LESSEN THAT BURDEN, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE OKAY. ON ON SLIDE.

IF I COULD JUST IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, PRIOR TO THE, THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD GOTTEN INTO A REALLY GOOD CADENCE OF JUST MAKING SMALL INCREASES TO THE PREMIUMS. 3 TO 4% WAS EASIER FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO TO MANAGE THAT.

SO WHEN THE WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, WE JUST STOPPED DOING THAT.

AND SO WE'D LIKE TO GET INTO MORE OF A NORMALIZE IT.

YEAH THAT MAKES SENSE. SLIDE 21, TANYA, THE PROGRAM CHANGE SLIDE THE THE LAST COUPLE YEARS I KNOW YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE THOSE COSTS WERE. DO ANY OF THESE NUMBERS REFLECT WHAT PROGRAMS WERE INITIATED WITH ARPA DOLLARS, OR ARE THESE ALL I GUESS NEW NEW GENERAL FUND DOLLARS? THESE ARE ALL NEW GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. SO THIS DOES NOT REFLECT PROGRAMS. I MEAN, IF WE WE PUT THAT ARPA NUMBER IN, IT'D BE EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WE SHOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT IN THE COMING COUPLE OF YEARS.

I GUESS LAST QUESTION. WITH RESPECT TO THE DEBT SERVICE.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS PROBABLY GOING BACK A YEAR AGO ABOUT MANAGING DEBT ISSUANCES.

WE DID NOT, I DON'T THINK, VOTED ON A MORATORIUM, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT SLOWING THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE DEBT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS VERY RESPONSIBLY MANAGED.

AND I THINK DAVID, YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DO THIS, BUT I THINK IF THE NEED WAS THERE IN TERMS OF CAPITAL WE WOULD STILL HAVE CAPACITY TO PROBABLY ISSUE 50 TO $60 MILLION A YEAR IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH WITHOUT IMPACTING SERVICES OR OUR RATING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IS THAT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT? WELL, BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS, FOR SURE.

YOU COULD ISSUE 50 EVERY OTHER YEAR. OKAY. YEAH.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THAT FLEXIBILITY.

WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE. I KNOW THAT HB 19 WAS IT SEEMED LIKE BOTTLED UP, BUT THERE WERE OTHER PROVISIONS, I THINK THAT STILL MAY GET TACKED ON THIS WEEK THAT MAY LIMIT OUR ABILITY.

AND SO I THINK JUST MAINTAINING THAT AS A TOOL POTENTIALLY TO TO ISSUE BONDS FOR CAPITAL NEEDS IS IMPORTANT.

AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CREDIT AGENCIES, CREDIT AGENCIES LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AT LEAST PAYING OUR BILLS.

AND WE ARE WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW. TANYA, THANKS FOR THE OVERVIEW AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT FEW MONTHS HELPING PUT THIS BUDGET TOGETHER. THANK YOU JEFF. THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

YEAH, I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS ON A COUPLE OF SLIDES. IF WE GO BACK TO TEN.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS. SO IN 2022, THE GREEN LINE, IT PEAKED AT THE HIGHEST.

AND THEN IT ALSO WENT DOWN TO THE LOWEST. WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR THAT.

I WOULD HAVE TO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM THE DATA SOURCE.

COMMISSIONER. I CAN ASK THAT. LET ME KNOW. OKAY.

AND THEN ALSO ON SLIDE. 13 WHAT WAS WHAT'S WHAT IS THIS REFERRING TO AGAIN. SO THIS IS THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT PROPERTIES ARE SITTING UNDER.

THEY'RE NOT BEING SOLD. SO THEY'RE SITTING ON THE MARKET. SO RIGHT NOW ACCORDING TO THE YELLOW LINE WE'RE BETWEEN 4 TO 5 MONTHS WHERE PROPERTIES ARE SITTING ON THE MARKET. OKAY. SO IS THAT BECAUSE I KNOW FOR FOR A WHILE WE KEPT TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING SHORTAGE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

RIGHT. IF IF HOUSES ARE NOW SITTING ON THE MARKET LONGER, DOES THAT MEAN WE NO LONGER HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE? OR DOES THAT MEAN PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE MONEY OR WHAT'S IT'S LIKELY? I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT THE INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT HAS JUST PRICED PEOPLE OUT OF THE OUT OF MOST OF THE MARKET THAT THEY WOULD HAVE NORMALLY HAD ACCESS TO AS THE COST OF INTEREST. YOUR MORTGAGE MONTHLY PAYMENT GOES UP.

FEWER AND FEWER PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT PURCHASE VEHICLE FOR A HOUSE.

IT HAS BEEN, FOR INSTANCE, IN 2000, I WANT TO SAY EIGHT AND NINE.

THE MONTH'S INVENTORY WAS AS HIGH AS 12 MONTHS, MEANING WE HAD WAY MORE HOUSES THAN BUYERS.

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AND NOW YOU SEE IT STARTING TO MODERATE. SO OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO THANK TANYA, YOUR TEAM AS WELL WITH TINA AND DAVID SMITH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO.

WE THINK OF BUDGET SEASON AS, YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS OVER THE SUMMER BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS.

BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT THANK YOU, JUDGE TANYA, VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

I WANT TO GO TO SLIDE 18. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT A DELTA IN 2030 BASICALLY. AND BY MY BACK OF THE NAPKIN LOOK I SEE THE REVENUE LINE OR FUNDS AVAILABLE LINE RATHER AS ROUGHLY SOMETHING. IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE LIKE EIGHT, 58, 75 AND THE FUNDS REQUIRED MAYBE 925, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE A $50 MILLION DELTA MAYBE.

I THINK SO, YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT. YEAH.

AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW THAT WE HAVE THE REAL DELTA ISSUE.

CORRECT. SO SO I JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE CLARIFY.

IT'S NOT AS ACUTE AS THE CITY'S SITUATION. IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

IT'S STRONGER FINANCIALLY. SO I WANT TO POINT POINT THAT OUT FOR YEARS IS A GOOD TIME TO MAKE UP SOME REVENUE AND MAKE SOME CHOICES.

I WANT TO GO TO THE NOW THE SLIDE 21 WITH RESPECT TO THE PROGRAM STUFF, CAN YOU CAN YOU DETAIL THE TOP THINGS THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON IN THAT 15 MILLION? YES, SIR. SO SO MOST OF THE PROGRAM CHANGES WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT BASED.

WE ADDED FUNDING FOR CONSTABLE'S, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

ALSO, A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT THAT THE COURT MADE WAS FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL FOR THEIR PROSECUTORS AND ADDING RESOURCES TO THAT.

SO IT'S TYPICALLY THE HIGHER LEVEL DEPARTMENTS IN THE SENSE OF THEIR RELATIVE TO THE BUDGET, THEY CARRY THE MAJORITY OF THE COSTS AND PERSONNEL.

AND BASED UPON THE BUDGET SUBMITTED. IS IT LOOKING SIMILAR OR IS IT? IT SHOULD STABILIZE, I WOULD THINK, IN TERMS OF REQUESTS WITH ALL THE THE PROGRAM CHANGES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED, WE ARE CLOSE TO A $40 MILLION IN REQUESTS BETWEEN 35 TO $40 MILLION.

SO IT'S IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH. OKAY.

OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF WHITTLE DOWN IF YOU WILL.

YES, SIR. OKAY. SO IN TERMS OF THE SLIDE SIX.

YOU EXPLAINED TO ME EXPENDITURES ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 81.7 MILLION LOWER THAN THE AMOUNT BUDGETED.

SO THAT WOULD BE A NET BUDGET SAVINGS, CORRECT? I MEAN, IF WE CORRECT YES, IT IS A NET BUDGET SAVINGS, BUT THAT MONEY IS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE MULTIYEAR BUDGET THAT WE ALLOCATED FOR ARPA.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND THE ENTIRE 190 MILLION.

IT'S A MULTI YEAR PROJECTS THAT NEED TO CARRY FORWARD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

WITHOUT THAT, WE ARE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH OUR ESTIMATES AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES ARE CONCERNED.

IF WE WERE TO REMOVE ARPA. OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT SO THE WAY I SEE THE SAVINGS ADDING UP ARE IN THAT 81.7 MILLION.

AND THEN WE HAD THE TWO FUND BALANCES WHICH TOTAL AROUND 50 SOME ODD MILLION, 50 PLUS MILLION.

SO I GUESS BACK OF THE NAPKIN ANALYSIS, THERE'S A BIT OF CUSHION THERE THAT WE'RE, WE CAN CARRY FORWARD. AND IT ACTUALLY ADDS UP TO MORE THAN THE DELTA IN 2030.

IS THAT. DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? NO, SIR.

COULD YOU REPEAT IT? SO IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURES ARE 81.7 MILLION LOWER THAN BUDGETED.

THEN YOU ADD ON WE CARRIED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS 23, 2023, 2024 FISCAL YEAR.

WE CARRIED FORWARD A FUND BALANCE AND IN THE 2020 OF 14 MILLION.

YEAH. OKAY. SO SO THEN WE'VE GOT SOMEWHERE THAT THOSE TWO FUND BALANCES IN THE SLIDE ADD UP TO ABOUT 50 MILLION.

AND THEN THIS ONE IS ANOTHER 81 MILLION. SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE IF WE'VE GOT THOSE SURPLUSES? WHY WE CAN'T CARRY THAT FORWARD INTO SOME OF THAT FUTURE BUDGET YEAR WITH BOTH INVESTMENT, I DON'T KNOW. DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO HELP? YEAH.

SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE SHOW YOU THE GRAPH IS TO SHOW YOU THAT THE TREND LINE STARTS SPENDING THOSE BALANCES IN FUTURE

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IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OUT. IF IT'S THE ALTIMETER ON YOUR PLANE, IT'S DROPPING A LITTLE BIT.

YOU JUST NEED TO MAKE A COURSE CORRECTION. YOU DON'T WANT TO WAKE UP.

WELL, ANYWAY, YOU JUST NEED TO START MAKING COURSE CORRECTIONS, THAT'S ALL.

BUT WELL, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THING. BUT, YEAH, YOU CAN BE.

SO THE 81 MILLION, THOUGH, WAS UNUSUAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE IT WAS SPECIFICALLY MULTI-YEAR.

IT WAS GOING TO BE SPENT OVER MORE THAN ONE YEAR.

OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. GOT IT. IT WILL BE. WELL, MOST OF IT WILL BE SPENT FOR THOSE BUDGETED PROJECTS.

WHAT IT WAS PROBABLY. YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, COMMISSIONER.

THIS WILL PROBABLY MAKE SENSE TO YOU, BUT MIGHT NOT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

IT WASN'T 81 MILLION. THAT WASN'T ESTIMATED. IT'S ESTIMATED FOR FUTURE YEARS.

YEAH, OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. I'M FOLLOWING YOU BETTER.

ALL RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK FAR TOO MANY TIMES THOSE WHO STUDY GOVERNMENT LOOK AT BUDGET CLIFFS AND THINK CUTS AND AUSTERITY. BUT THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO DEAL WITH BUDGET CLIFFS AND CUTS OR BUDGET DEFICITS RATHER.

AND THAT IS THROUGH GROWTH, THROUGH THINGS LIKE USING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DISTRICTS TO GET MORE HOUSING BUILT IN AREAS THAT ARE FARMLAND TODAY, THAT WOULD HAVE HOUSES WHERE THEY'RE COLLECTING TAXES WITH THE MILLION, MILLION FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING INTO THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'S REVENUE THAT THAT PARTICULAR GROWTH.

SO I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE COURT IS TO SEE, BASED UPON THE REAL ESTATE, OR JUST, SAY, THE DEMOGRAPHER GROWTH THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IF WE CAN.

AND THERE IS A NEEDLE TO THREAD HERE BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC PERSON IN HOUSE BOT.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THAT. IF THE HOUSING COSTS ARE COMMENSURATE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION GROWING HERE. YOU KNOW. HOW CAN WE HOW CAN WE STIMULATE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SO THAT OUR BUDGET DEFICIT IS CURTAILED? AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE WHEN WE COME FORWARD TO THE COURT WITH THE PIDS AND IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, X MILLION MORE TO US AND X MILLION MORE TO THE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, ETC., BECAUSE WE HAVE CREATED THIS NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.

PLURAL. IT IT REALLY CAN HELP US KIND OF FOCUS, MACRO LEVEL TO SAY EVEN TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, HEY, WE'LL HELP YOU STIMULATE THESE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THROUGH PIDS SO THAT YOU CAN BUILD.

AND IT HELPS US FOUR YEARS FROM NOW WHEN WE HAVE THIS KIND OF CLIFF, ARE YOU IF WE COULD, WE'LL WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TO TO CLARIFY THIS, BUT I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THAT'S HOW YOU CAN PROBABLY EASILY DIG YOURSELF OUT OF SOME OF THESE HOLES, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT JUST ABOUT THREE YEARS BEFORE THAT TAXABLE INCOME WILL SHOW UP.

YEAH. GO AHEAD DAVID. I THINK WHEN TANYA WAS EXPLAINING WHY OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE GROWTH WAS HIGHER THAN WHAT THE CITY'S WAS, THAT'S EXACTLY PART OF IT.

THE PIDS AREN'T HAPPENING INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

THEY'RE HAPPENING IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT. WHEN SOME OF THOSE PIDS GO IN WITH 700 OR 1000 NEW HOUSES, WHEREAS IT'S CURRENTLY AN AG EXEMPT FARM, WE LITERALLY ARE COLLECTING A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TAXES ON HUNDREDS OF ACRES.

WHEN THAT CONVERTS TO TAXABLE SUBDIVISIONS, WE'RE COLLECTING MILLIONS.

SO THAT'S I THINK YOU'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE IT.

AND I THINK SO. I GUESS I'M JUST CONCURRING. YOU'RE RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT STIMULATING THE BUDGET IS ALSO THE COUNTY CAN DO IT THROUGH DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU CAN BUILD 20 STORY BUILDINGS AND HAVE A MARKET BASE THAT WILL SUPPORT IT. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT HOTELS AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, BUT BOTH THROUGH THE PIDS AND THROUGH INCENTIVIZING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. YOU CAN HELP WITH THIS WITH THIS BUDGET ISSUE.

SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT.

HOUSING AND DOWNTOWN DENSITY ARE GOING TO HELP BAIL US OUT.

I THINK OF SOME OF THE THE, THE ENDURING OR THE, THE UPCOMING ISSUE.

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AND THAT IS THE HOUSE BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED.

IF US CONGRESS BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED ELIMINATED CDBG HOME.

WE USE A LOT OF THOSE CDBG HOME PROGRAMS FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS.

WE GET A LOT OF ROADS DONE WITH THOSE CDBG. WE GET A LOT OF FOLKS FROM THE STREETS IN IN THE HOMELESS UNHOUSED SITUATION THROUGH THE HOME PROGRAM. THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT, IF THE I DON'T THINK THE SENATE IS GOING TO DO THAT, BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THE SENATE DOES THAT. BUT THIS COURT HAS TO FOLLOW THAT REALLY CLOSELY AND PROBABLY PUT IN CONTINGENCY SOME FUNDING IN THE EVENT THAT CDBG AND HOME IS CUT, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T POLLING DATA, LET'S JUST TALK POLITICS FOR A SECOND HERE.

COURT HOUSING IS IS BASICALLY THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE.

AND I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN WHY CRIME IS RANKED NUMBER ONE.

BUT WE KNOW REALLY IT'S RANKED NUMBER ONE IN A POLL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE NEWS STATIONS LEAD WITH.

EVEN THOUGH CRIME IS DOWN, AS CHIEF MCMANUS SAID.

BUT THE NUMBER TWO ISSUE AND NUMBER THREE ISSUE ARE THE UNHOUSED AND HOUSING.

SO IF I COMBINE THE UNHOUSED AND HOUSING, WHICH IS REALLY THE SAME ISSUE, HOUSING, IT'S REALLY THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE.

AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE EMERGENCY SERVICES GRANTS TO HELP TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR FAMILIES ON THE STREETS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THIS COUNTY BUDGET REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE SOME SET ASIDE SO THAT WE'RE NOT STUCK, BECAUSE THAT WILL ALSO, IF WE HAVE FOLKS ALL IN THE STREETS AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF DOWNTOWN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY IS GOING TO HURT.

THE TAX REVENUES ARE GOING TO HURT. THE HOTEL IS, YOU KNOW, ABILITY FOR US TO JUST HAVE THESE HOTELS PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAX.

ALL THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT ON THE COUNTY BUDGET.

SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION US ABOUT FOLLOWING THE FEDERAL CDBG HOME, PUTTING SOME A LITTLE ASIDE IN CASE WE HAVE TO BE THE 3 MILLION OR WHATEVER AMOUNT THAT THE FEDS NORMALLY GIVE US. WE MAY HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THAT.

SO THANK YOU, JUDGE, FOR THE TIME. LET ME WEIGH IN.

FIRST, LET ME THANK DAVID AND TANYA ON BEHALF OF STAFF.

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT REPORT TO HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND PERHAPS OUR BIGGEST OBLIGATION, RESPONSIBILITY AS COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

AS ESTABLISHED, THE BUDGET, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A MORAL DOCUMENT AS TO WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AND WHAT, AS COMMISSIONER CALVERT HAS PUT OUT. YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITIES? SO I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COURT, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST YEARS SINCE I'VE STARTED AS COUNTY JUDGE, IS MAKE SIGNIFICANT BUDGET DECISIONS AND COMMUNITY INVESTMENTS WHILE TAKING A PRUDENT APPROACH TO BUDGETING.

FOR THE RECORD, WE'VE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT ALLOCATING AND AND DEPLOYING THE ARPA RESOURCES THAT WERE ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE US DURING COVID.

AND WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THOSE EXPENSES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE STATUTE THAT WE ARE COMING INTO THE LAST YEAR.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EFFECTIVELY USED THOSE RESOURCES ALSO TO THE PAST BUDGET DECISIONS OF THIS COURT WAS TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON CAPITAL, NEW PROJECTS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES IS A CHALLENGING SITUATION BECAUSE WE ARE GROWING ECONOMY, WE ARE GROWING CITY, AND ESPECIALLY THE COUNTY AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS OUT THERE. AND SO WE WILL BE CHALLENGED AT ALL TIMES TO HOW WE MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.

ALSO, TOO, WE REDUCED THE BUDGET IN THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN TAKING A VERY FISCAL, AUSTERE LOOK AT HOW WE SPEND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

AND, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THIS NEW BUDGET TO COME AS TO HOW WE DO THAT.

WE MADE SIGNIFICANT BUDGET DECISIONS IN REGARDS TO THE UTILIZATION, ACCESS TO SPECIAL FUNDS LIKE THE ADVANCED TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT COMMISSIONER. YOU'RE RIGHT. THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, THE PIDS, POLLOCK IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ZONES AND THE TOURS AND ALL THE TOOLS IN THE BOX, SO TO SPEAK, THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES, ESPECIALLY IN HOUSING TYPE PROJECTS.

THIS REPORT TODAY IS IT'S NOT A ROSY, BUT IT'S SOMBER.

IT IS A PROJECTION OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN REGARDS TO OUR REVENUES AND WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES ARE GOING TO BE, AND OUR PROJECTED HISTORIC GROWTH, AND ALSO OUR REVENUE SOURCES.

BUT LET ME KIND OF TIE ALL THE COMMENTS IN. COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOU TOUCHED ON A LOT THAT I THINK ARE STILL IMPORTANT.

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AND IT'S, I BELIEVE, PART OF THE REPORT OF ALL THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WERE FUNDED AND HAVE CREATED FTES, FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS, EMPLOYEES AND PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT IN THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR.

AND SO MY FIRST QUESTION TO, I PRESUME, TONYA, IS HAS THAT.

BUDGET ANALYSIS BEEN LOOKED AT IN REGARDS TO THE FORECAST, OR IS THAT A REPORT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING AS WE LOOK TO THE NEW BUDGET YEAR? SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE ARPA OFFICE.

THEY HAVE BEEN TAKING THE LEAD ON INFORMING THE OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS ON THE ENDING OF THE FUNDING OR TECHNICALLY THE LIKE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE REMAINING. SO IT HAS BEEN ENCOURAGED TO START SPENDING THAT MONEY DOWN, BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE THAT IN OUR PLAN TO WORK WITH THE ARPA OFFICE TO CONTINUE ON WHAT PROGRAMS THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE.

MOST OF THE PROJECTS ARE THEY WILL END DUE TO CONTRACTS, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE I WANT AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT AGGREGATE LOOKS LIKE.

DOES ANYBODY IN YOUR OFFICE KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD WOULD BE THE THE LENGTH OF THAT ARPA CLIFF, SO TO SPEAK, HOW MUCH MONEY WE MAY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IF WE WERE TO FULLY FUND EVERY ARPA PROGRAM.

AND I'M GOING TO BE BLUNT AND I'M LEARNING THE COURT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE DID NOT ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE FUNDING ALL THOSE PROGRAMS IN THIS FORECAST WE USED, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO DETAIL FOR THE SAME REASONS I DIDN'T WANT TO LAST BUDGET.

IT WILL AFFECT PEOPLE AND AFFECT DEPARTMENTS.

AND THAT'S NOT FAIR TO ANYBODY FOR TODAY'S DISCUSSION.

BUT IT IS ALSO PART OF THE SOMBERNESS OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION.

WE'VE GOT SOME TOUGH DECISIONS YET TO COME. WE ASSUMED, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS FORECAST, 18 OR 19 MILLION IN THOSE PROGRAMS MIGHT CONTINUE.

OKAY. ALSO TWO. AND COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOU YOU HAVE ASTUTELY ALERTED WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS AND GRANTS THAT WILL PROBABLY BE AFFECTED BY WHATEVER DECISIONS COME OUT OF WASHINGTON, D.C., AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND WHATEVER OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AFFECTS US.

AND SO HAVE WE BAKED THAT IN, SO TO SPEAK, DAVID, AS TO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOLLOWS THROUGH ON THE THREATS, THE COMMENTS, THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE PUTTING OUT, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CUTS, SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO HOUSING, FOOD, MEDICAID, BASIC SERVICES TO THIS COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE A POLICY DECISION. THAT'S PART OF THE MORAL DOCUMENT. WHO'S GOING TO COVER THOSE COSTS IF THOSE CUTS ACTUALLY COME TO BE? HAVE WE HAVE A FULL ANALYSIS OF THAT? NO. WE AND THE THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO, WE DON'T.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AMONG THE MORE FISCALLY TRAUMATIC EVENTS TO HAPPEN TO THIS GOVERNMENT IN A LONG TIME.

NONE OF THAT IS FACTORED INTO THE FORECAST YOU JUST SAW.

SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH WORSE BECAUSE AS AN EXAMPLE, I'M NOT AND I DON'T WANT BE CAREFUL, AS YOU SAY, TO PICK, BUT A SIGNIFICANT CUT TO THE FOOD BANK WOULD BE A CATASTROPHIC EFFECT ON OUR COMMUNITY IN LIGHT OF THE NEED.

THE BASIC NEED OF THIS COMMUNITY IS TO JUST BE ABLE TO LIVE ON A DAILY BASIS.

CORRECT. CORRECT. AND THEN COMMISSIONER KELLY POINTED OUT CDBG.

IT'S IT'S PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUILDING ROADS, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE MOST IN NEED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CDBG DOES. THAT'S POSSIBLY GOING AWAY IN TOTALITY.

SO I WANT THIS COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WE AS A COMMUNITY MUST DECIDE WHAT WE HAVE TO STAND FOR AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO PROTECT THE LEAST OF US IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND ALSO, TOO, THAT'S ALSO A COMMENT ABOUT THE PUBLIC POLICY THAT IS BEING MADE BY PEOPLE ABOVE US AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AT THE STATE GOVERNMENT. AND THAT'S WHY THE PUBLIC'S VOICE IS SO NECESSARY IN TODAY'S WORLD.

YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT US UP HERE. THE FIVE MEMBERS OF THIS COURT AND SAY, OKAY, FIX IT, WE'LL FIX IT.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS COST AND PERHAPS A TREMENDOUS BURDEN ON OUR COMMUNITY.

AND JUDGE THERE YOU ARE. I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

A TREMENDOUS COST AND POTENTIAL BURDEN TO THIS COMMUNITY.

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AND IF SOME OF THESE EVENTS YOU JUST DESCRIBED HAPPEN, AND THIS COURT FEELS A DUTY TO HAVE THE COUNTY TRY AND FILL SOME OF THE FISCAL VOID LEFT BY THOSE DECISIONS, THAT ASSUMPTION MIGHT NOT HOLD IN YOUR IN YOUR MINDS.

SO I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THE COURT WITH A SOMBER ASSESSMENT THAT I BELIEVE WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE TODAY.

WE'RE POSSIBLY IN GOOD SHAPE FOR THE FUTURE AND FOR THE YEARS TO COME.

BUT WE HAVE SOME REALLY TOUGH CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE.

AND THAT'S WHY ELECTIONS COUNT. AND I'LL CLOSE MY COMMENTS ON THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COURT? IS THERE ANY OTHER? IS THERE ACTION NEEDED FOR SIMPLE PRESENTATION? THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO BACK TO WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN. AND I DON'T WANT TO FORGET THEM.

[5.b. 11:00 a.m. - Presentation, discussion and appropriate action regarding Phase 2 of the Countywide outreach and education on responsible gun ownership and gun safety program to include direction to staff to negotiate a contract amendment with TXC Creative, LLC (ESBE, SBE) to conduct Phase 2 through September 30, 2026, at no additional cost. (Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Monica Ramos)]

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, COURT MEMBERS. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT IS WITH TEXAS CREATIVE AS THE NAME OF THE OF THE FIRM.

THAT'S A LITTLE TYPO. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MONICA RAMOS.

I AM THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

BEFORE I START TODAY, I DO WANT TO RECOMMEND OUR PARTNERS AND SUPPORTERS WHO ARE STANDING HERE WITH US TODAY.

FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE ASHLEY LANDERS WITH TEXAS CREATIVE AND THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE WITH US TODAY.

AND I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE STAND AS I JUST CALL OUT YOUR NAME AND RECOGNIZE YOUR YOU BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.

DOCTOR ALEX TESTA, HE IS WITH THE UT HEALTH HOUSTON SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

WE HAVE ALAN DALLEK. HE IS THE RESIDENT AGENT IN CHARGE WITH ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS. WE HAVE SARAH WYNARKA WITH THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

WE HAVE JESSE VALDEZ WITH THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. DID YOU SAY YOU WANTED THEM TO? WELL, HE STOOD, BUT THE OTHER TWO DIDN'T STAND OR WAVE THEIR HAND OR ANYTHING.

ARE THEY HERE? YES, SOME OF THEM ARE HERE, AND A FEW DID HAVE TO LEAVE.

OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE HERE, IF YOU CAN JUST WAVE OR STAND, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. WE ALSO HAVE DOCTOR MOLINA WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE JILL MATA WITH JUVENILE PROBATION. JEANNIE VON STOLTZ AS WELL WITH JUVENILE PROBATION.

WE HAVE BRANDI MARTINEZ, WHO IS THE HEAD OF THE CHILD FATALITY REVIEW TEAM.

THEY'RE HERE WITH US AS WELL. JUDGE MONIQUE DIAZ WAS ALSO GOING TO TRY AND MAKE IT AS WELL.

WE ALSO HAVE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT, SAN ANTONIO METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE SANDI EPLEY WITH UNIVERSITY HEALTH, PAMELA ALLEN WITH EAGLES FLIGHT ADVOCACY AND OUTREACH.

WE HAVE MOTHER LOST CHILD. WE HAVE EDWARD CRUZ WITH RIVER CITY TACTICAL.

PATRICIA GONZALEZ WITH SOUTHWEST VOTER. WE HAVE OUR SHERIFF, SHERIFF SALAZAR.

WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OUR CONSTABLE'S CONSTABLE, TEJEDA.

CONSTABLE LETICIA VASQUEZ, CONSTABLE VOJVODICH.

WE HAVE CONSTABLE KAT BROWN WITH US TODAY AS WELL.

WE HAVE BENNY PRICE AND ROSE WILLIAMS FROM BIG MAMA'S SAFE HOUSE.

WE ALSO HAVE BARBARA SCHAEFER WITH BEXAR COUNTY CHILDREN'S COURT AS WELL, AND THEIR LOVELY DOG.

WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF ERIC EPLEY WITH SOUTHWEST TEXAS REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL, ALSO KNOWN AS STRACK.

WE HAVE LUCY ADAME-CLARK. WE ALSO HAVE CHARLES SATTERWHITE.

HE'S HERE WITH SAN ANTONIO RISING STARS, AND HE'S HERE TO REPRESENT MOTHER MOTHER LAW'S CHILD AS WELL.

LLOYD PATTERSON WITH URBAN APOSTLES. WE HAVE ANGIE WHITE WITH YOUTH ENTREPRENEURSHIP ENTREPRENEURSHIP LEADERSHIP PROGRAM, AND I'M SORRY, ANGIE WHITE WITH CHILD ADVOCATES OF SAN ANTONIO ARE HERE WITH US TODAY AS WELL.

WE HAVE ANDREW VALENCIA AND MISS WHITNEY WITH YMCA, AND WE ALSO HAVE ROGER CABALLERO WITH MADONNA CENTER.

I THINK THAT'S MY LIST. UNLESS I FORGOT SOMEONE.

BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. WE'D NOT BE ABLE TO BRING THIS TO YOU WITHOUT THEIR HELP AND THEIR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. SO JUST A LITTLE HISTORY FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S IN ATTENDANCE.

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SINCE 2023, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE, TOGETHER WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, HAVE DISTRIBUTED CLOSE TO 3000 CABLE GUN LOCKS TO DATE AND OVER 1500 PORTABLE GUN CASES AT DIFFERENT EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

SINCE STEPPING UP OUR EFFORTS UNDER YOUR GUIDANCE BACK IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, BEXAR COUNTY APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH TEXAS CREATIVE TO PROVIDE COUNTYWIDE OUTREACH. WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING IN THAT EDUCATION ON RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP AND SAFETY TO INCLUDE ALL THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THESE TRUSTED, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HERE, AND TO CONDUCT A COUNTY WIDE RESIDENT SURVEY.

SO WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU PHASE TWO, WHICH CONSISTS OF USING THOSE SURVEY RESULTS AND FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP A DATA DRIVEN GUN SAFETY AWARENESS PROGRAM TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS AND OUTREACH.

AND SO NOW I'D LIKE TO ASK ASHLEY LANDERS TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM, AND SHE'S GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.

ASHLEY. THANKS, MONICA. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT TODAY.

AS MONICA MENTIONED, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GUN SAFETY AWARENESS PROGRAM THAT THE COURT APPROVED APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO, WHERE WE OUTLINED OUR PLAN. OH, WAIT. LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE CONTROL OF BEFORE I GET GOING.

IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE IT JUST FULL SCREEN? NO.

OKAY. WHERE ARE WE? OUTLINED OUR PLAN FOR EDUCATING BEXAR COUNTY ON SAFETY, SECURITY AND THE ADOPTION OF PROACTIVE STEPS TO REDUCE THE PREVALENCE OF GUN RELATED INCIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW I DON'T NEED TO.

I'M SORRY. YOU SAID YOU WANTED. THERE YOU GO.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. I KNOW I DON'T NEED TO REMIND ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WHY THIS IS CRITICAL, LIFE SAVING WORK. WE ALL KNOW THE NATIONAL STATISTICS THAT FIREARMS HAVE BECOME THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH OF CHILDREN AND TEENS IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE KNOW THE STATEWIDE NUMBERS OF ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGES AND SUICIDES.

AND TODAY, I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT OUR BEXAR COUNTY SPECIFIC RESEARCH TELLS US ABOUT GUN SAFETY IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

YOU'LL RECALL I SHARED A THREE PRONGED, EVIDENCE BASED APPROACH OF OUR PLAN FOR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, STARTING WITH RESEARCH THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE WITH YOU.

RESEARCH METHODOLOGIES CAN ROUGHLY BE CATEGORIZED INTO THREE GROUPS QUALITATIVE, QUANTITATIVE, AND MIXED METHOD. OUR MIXED METHOD HAS INCLUDED A PRIMARY AWARENESS AND PERCEPTION STUDY, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS RESEARCH ON THEIR OWN, AND THEN MANY SECONDARY DATA SOURCES, ALL OF WHICH YOU'LL SEE HIGHLIGHTS OF ON THE COMING SLIDES.

AND ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WAS USED TO SHAPE OUR OUTREACH STRATEGIES FOR AN AWARENESS AND EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT WE'LL BE SHARING TODAY, AND THAT WILL BE LAUNCHING COMMUNITY WIDE STARTING NEXT WEEK.

SO STARTING WITH OUR STATISTICALLY RELEVANT STUDY WITH GUN OWNERS AND NON GUN OWNERS, AS WELL AS A SUBGROUP OF A SAMPLE OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH AND WITHOUT CHILDREN, ALL DONE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. WE START OUR QUESTIONS BROAD, AS YOU SEE HERE, FOCUSING ON WHAT WORRIES RESIDENTS THE MOST. WHERE WE SEE THAT FOR ADULTS WITH CHILDREN.

BESIDES INFLATION, WHICH WHEN THIS WAS FIELDED, WE WERE AT RECORD HIGH INFLATION AT THE TIME.

WE SEE THAT GUN INCIDENTS WORRY THEM MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, TESTED MORE THAN LOSING YOUR JOB OR YOUR INCOME.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF GUN OWNERSHIP, NEARLY HALF OF BEXAR COUNTY ADULTS REPORT OWNING A GUN, INDICATING THAT NEARLY 800,000 GUN OWNERS ARE IN THE COUNTY, WITH MOST REPORTING THAT THEY OWN MULTIPLE GUNS, LEADING TO A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF OVER 1.5 MILLION GUNS IN THE COUNTY.

AND WHEN WE ASK THEM THEIR MOTIVATIONS, THREE QUARTERS CITE PROTECTION AS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR OWNING A GUN.

AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, NEARLY ALL SURVEYED GUN OWNERS VIEW THEMSELVES AS MORE RESPONSIBLE THAN AVERAGE, DESPITE MANY SELF-REPORTED ACTIONS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED RISKY.

THINGS LIKE KEEPING A LOADED, EASILY ACCESSIBLE GUN IN THEIR HOME, KEEPING A LOADED, EASILY ACCESSIBLE GUN IN THEIR CAR, NEGLECTING TO INFORM VISITORS WITH CHILDREN THAT THERE ARE GUNS IN THE HOUSE, OR NEVER HAVING TAKEN A GUN SAFETY OR HUNTER SAFETY CLASS.

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AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DON'T JUST USE OUR OWN PRIMARY RESEARCH.

WE USE A NUMBER OF SECONDARY DATA SOURCES, SOMETIMES THROUGH MEDIA PARTNERS LIKE YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY SPECTRUM REACH.

THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES IS BECAUSE GUN OWNERSHIP DATA IS EXTREMELY LIMITED AND OFTEN DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR UNREGISTERED GUNS.

SO ANY OUTREACH STRATEGIES THAT WE TAKE, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERING THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, INCORPORATED AND UNINCORPORATED AND WITH MATERIALS BOTH IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

ON TOP OF THAT, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY SENSITIVE AND POLARIZING TOPIC.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TRUSTED PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY HELPING US GATHER INFORMATION TO INFORM, TO INFORM OUR MESSAGING. YOU'LL RECALL THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, WE SPOKE ABOUT PHASE ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY BASED PARTNERSHIPS PLAN, WHERE WE IDENTIFIED PARTNERS TO HELP US GATHER INPUT AND ADD ANOTHER LAYER OF RESEARCH IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT GREAT LENGTH THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE IDENTIFIED 20 PARTNERS WHOSE LOGOS YOU SEE ON SCREEN.

THROUGH A DETAILED REQUEST FOR PARTNERSHIP PROCESS, THEY WERE EACH AWARDED MICRO-GRANTS THROUGH THIS CONTRACT.

THEY WERE ONBOARDED WITH THE SAME RESEARCH STUDY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, AND GIVEN THE QUESTIONNAIRE AS A GUIDE TO HELP INFORM THEIR PATH FOR DEVELOPING THEIR OWN REPORTING, REFLECTIVE OF AN AWARENESS AND PERCEPTION STUDY WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

11 OF THE 20, ACTUALLY, AS OF TODAY, 12 OF THE 20 ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COMPLETED THEIR INPUT WORK, WITH THE FINAL DEADLINE BEING AT THE END OF THIS WEEK.

THE END OF THE MONTH. AT THE TIME THAT WE HAD TO SUBMIT THIS PRESENTATION WE HAD APPROXIMATELY, WHICH WAS EARLY MAY, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 30% OF ALL REPORTS IN.

AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT PROTECTION REMAINS THE HIGHEST MOTIVATION FOR GUN OWNERSHIP.

SPECIFICALLY, PROTECTING CHILDREN CONTINUES TO BE OF HIGHEST CONCERN.

AND HERE ON SCREEN YOU SEE SOME QUOTES THAT WERE CALLED OUT FROM SOME OF THE RESPONDENTS THAT HAD ALREADY SUBMITTED AT THAT TIME.

ONCE PHASE ONE WRAPS UP THIS WEEK, WE'LL BEGIN PREPARATIONS FOR PHASE TWO OF OUR COMMUNITY BASED PARTNERS OUTREACH, WHERE THE GOAL IS TO HELP WITH AWARENESS AND EDUCATION OF THE MESSAGING THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER BASED ON ALL OF THE RESEARCH FOR PHASE ONE.

THE TIMELINE IS TENTATIVE THAT YOU SEE HERE FOR HOW THAT WILL ROLL OUT.

AND SPEAKING OF MESSAGING BACK TO OUR THREE PRONGED APPROACH, EDUCATION WAS THE SECOND PIECE AFTER RESEARCH.

SO AGAIN, RESEARCH TOLD US THAT THE BIGGEST IMPACT THAT WE CAN MAKE QUICKLY IS BY SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO GUN OWNERS WHOSE MOTIVATIONS FOR OWNING A GUN ARE DRIVEN BY FEAR AND PROTECTION OF THEIR HOME AND THEIR FAMILY. BUT WHAT THEY MAY NOT REALIZE IS THAT IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILY.

WHEN THEY OWN A GUN, THEY MUST BEAR RESPONSIBLY.

THIS IS A SIMPLE IDEA. THAT'S AN ORGANIZING IDEA THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN GET BEHIND.

BEAR RESPONSIBLY. IT ACKNOWLEDGES THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS AS A PROTECTED RIGHT, WHILE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THAT RIGHT COMES WITH INHERENT RESPONSIBILITY.

IT LEVERAGES THE UNIQUE PRONUNCIATION OF BEXAR COUNTY TO LOCALIZE OUR MESSAGE.

IT POSITIONS SAFETY AT THE CORNERSTONE OF RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP.

ADDRESSING ACCIDENTS, THEFTS, AND SUICIDE PREVENTION IN A NON-POLARIZING WAY.

AND IT TAPS INTO WIDESPREAD AGREEMENT THAT RESPONSIBLE GUN STORAGE AND HANDLING ARE ESSENTIAL FOR PROTECTING FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES.

THE FOLLOWING SLIDES ARE TO ILLUSTRATE EXAMPLES OF THE MESSAGES WE'LL BE USING IN OUR COMMUNITY AWARENESS AND EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT LAUNCHES NEXT WEEK.

JUST LET THE LOOP PLAY ONE MORE TIME. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS SOME OF THE LOOK AND FEEL FOR THE MESSAGES THAT WILL START TO BE DELIVERED AND DISTRIBUTED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

BEAR RESPONSIBLY LOCKED GUNS. SAVE LIVES. 48% OF BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENTS REPORTED OWNING GUNS.

NO PERCENT OF BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENTS REPORTED WANTING A TRAGEDY.

97% OF GUN BEAR GUN OWNERS SAY A GUN SAFETY CLASS IS IMPORTANT.

31% OF GUN OWNERS HAVEN'T SEEN THAT CLASSROOM.

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A SIMPLE QUESTION CAN PREVENT A TRAGEDY. YOUR GUN PROTECTS YOUR FAMILY.

PROTECT YOUR FAMILY FROM YOUR GUN. BE AN EXPERT ON SAFE GUN STORAGE.

BEAR RESPONSIBLY SO YOU'LL SEE. OVERALL, WE'RE PRIORITIZING VISUAL MESSAGES IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

WE'LL LAUNCH AND GRAB IMMEDIATE ATTENTION. DRIVING TO OUR LANDING PAGE WITH A SIMPLE URL.

BEAR RESPONSIBLY. AND AT THE LANDING PAGE, ALL OF OUR PARTNERS, THEIR INFORMATION AND ADDITIONAL SOURCES WILL LIVE FOR A LONGER ABILITY TO READ, ENGAGE, AND LEARN. WE'LL ALSO HAVE A TOOLKIT HOUSED THERE WHERE ALL OF OUR PARTNERS, THE MEDIA, ANYONE CAN ACCESS ANY OF THESE MATERIALS TO HELP US SHARE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS I'VE BEEN ASKED ALREADY BY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IS HOW CAN WE HELP SHARE THIS MESSAGE? HOW CAN WE HOW CAN WE USE SOME OF YOUR MATERIALS? AND OUR MAIN FOCUS WILL BE A 32ND PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, WHICH WILL BE FINISHED NEXT WEEK IN TIME FOR THE LAUNCH.

WE'LL HAVE DIGITAL BOARDS THAT WILL TRANSITION FROM THE URL TO A THOUGHT PROVOKING CALL TO ACTION THAT WILL BE USED IN THE MAJORITY OF OUR MESSAGING PIECES.

YOU'RE GOING TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY. PROTECT YOUR FAMILY FROM YOUR GUN.

BEAR RESPONSIBLY OR IN SPANISH TO PROTEJA, TO FAMILIA PROTEJA.

TO FAMILIA DE TIJUANA. BEAR RESPONSIBLY. HERE YOU SEE EXAMPLES OF DIGITAL ASSETS, WHERE WE SEE A VIDEO OF CHILDREN RUNNING DOWN THE HALLWAY WHICH READS THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS.

FIREARMS ARE THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH FOR KIDS IN BEXAR COUNTY.

LOCKED GUNS SAVE LIVES. BEAR RESPONSIBLY. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF CREATIVE MATERIALS ONLINE.

ONE UNSECURED WEAPON PLUS ONE CURIOUS CHILD EQUALS TWO LATE.

SOME MISTAKES YOU CAN'T TAKE BACK. LOCKED GUNS SAVE LIVES.

BEAR RESPONSIBLY. MEDICAL SCIENCE CAN'T CURE THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG OUR KIDS.

THAT'S UP TO US. LOCKED GUNS SAVE LIVES. 100% OF GUN RELATED ACCIDENTS IN BEXAR COUNTY HAPPEN TO PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN TO THEM. LOCKED GUNS SAVE LIVES. BEAR RESPONSIBLY.

THINKING IT WON'T HAPPEN IS EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENS.

LOCKED GUNS SAVE LIVES. BEAR RESPONSIBLY. LOCKED AND LOADED.

LOCKED AND UNLOADED. SAFE GUN STORAGE PREVENTS TRAGEDIES.

LOCKED GUNS SAVE LIVES. BEAR RESPONSIBLY. AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL JUST A SAMPLE OF THE WORK THAT WILL BE ROLLING OUT STARTING NEXT WEEK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AND I JUST WANT TO END BY SAYING THANK YOU TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT CAME ALONGSIDE THIS WORK TO THE CBO PARTNERS THAT ARE HERE FROM PHASE ONE.

YOU HAVE BEEN KIND AND COMMITTED AND WONDERFUL PARTNERS TO ALL THE COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT FROM PLACES LIKE UT HEALTH AND UNIVERSITY AND OTHERS THAT MONICA MENTIONED. I STOOD IN FRONT OF THE COURT LAST MARCH AND SAID THAT THIS ISN'T THE JOB OF ONE ORGANIZATION.

IT TAKES US ALL COMING TOGETHER ACROSS DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS TO FIND COMMON GROUND WITH AN ORGANIZING IDEA.

AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT URGING PEOPLE TO BEAR RESPONSIBLY IS THAT FIRST STEP.

BUT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. THE HARD WORK WILL BE TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THESE EFFORTS OF AWARENESS AND EDUCATION UNTIL THE STATISTICS CHANGE, AND WE BECOME A SAFER COMMUNITY FOR EVERYONE, MOST, MOST, ESPECIALLY OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND GOING THROUGH IT HERE FAIRLY QUICKLY.

I LOVE THE CATCHY PHRASE THAT YOU HAVE THE BEAR RESPONSIBLY OBVIOUSLY WORKS WITH OUR COUNTY VERY WELL.

I WANT TO JUST JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE BOTH BOTH YOUR SUBMISSION HERE, COUNTY STAFF AND THIS COURT, FOR FOCUSING ON WHAT WE ALL AGREE ON HERE.

RIGHT. AND THERE'S PLENTY OF DIVISIVE POLITICAL ISSUES IN THIS SPACE THAT WE COULD HAVE GONE DOWN.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS 100% IN AGREEMENT ON, IN MY OPINION.

RIGHT. AND IT'S TRYING TO PREVENT THE NEXT TRAGEDY.

IT'S TRYING TO KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE. WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT.

I LOVE THE CREATIVE. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD WORK AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT'LL SAVE LIVES.

AND IF IT SAVES ONE LIFE, THEN THEN IT'S WORTH IT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RODRIGUEZ. YEAH. THANK YOU. JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MONICA.

THANK YOU. YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR FOR QUARTERBACKING THIS AND REALLY IMPRESSED WITH SOME OF THE CONCEPTS YOU'VE COME UP WITH.

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SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I ALSO WANT TO JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK THE THE COMMUNITY BASED PARTNERS.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THEM HERE. WE HAD PLENTY OF MEETINGS BACK THEN.

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO.

BUT THIS WORK CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT FEET ON THE GROUND AND PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERACTING WITH OUR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING WORK. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE.

I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DIRECT STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH TCS CREATIVE TO CONDUCT PHASE TWO. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. ARE YOU DONE, COMMISSIONER? YES. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. SO I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ SAID, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK ALL OF THE OUTSIDE PARTNERS TO PLEASE STAND.

AND IF YOU CAN, GIVE THEM A HAND OF APPLAUSE.

A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

MONICA, OF COURSE YOUR TEAM SPEARHEADED THIS, BUT WITHOUT OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS WE CAN PUT GOOD STUFF OUT THERE.

AND IF WE DON'T GET INTO THE COMMUNITY, THEN THE WORK AND THE MONEY MEANS NOTHING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR PARTNERS. I HOPE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO, TO WORK WITH US BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE SLIDE NUMBERS ON YOUR SLIDES, BUT THE ONE THAT SAYS IT SHOWS THE KIDS RUNNING, LIKE ON THE CELL PHONE. SO THIS IS JUST MY THOUGHTS BASED ON THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, CONSTITUENTS HAVE SAID TO ME ABOUT, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS KIND OF THING.

SO THERE IS A SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY WHO THINKS THAT.

AND I ALWAYS SAY, WE'RE IN TEXAS. AIN'T NOBODY GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS. NONETHELESS, BASED ON THE POLITICAL CLIMATE THAT WE ARE IN, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THIS ONE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE THINKING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY AND TAKE AWAY THEIR GUNS.

RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE REFRAMED OR NOT.

YOU GUYS ARE THE MARKETING EXPERTS. BUT WHEN I SAW THAT, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT AND I COULD JUST SEE SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS.

SO MAYBE KIDS, YOUR KIDS ARE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU GUYS TO TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

OKAY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. AND THANKS, MONICA.

THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER CALVERT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THAT ABOUT 39% OF GUN OWNERS HAVE NO GUN SAFETY TRAINING.

AND AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THE PHASES AHEAD. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE PLACES WHERE GUN SAFETY TRAINING WAS IMPLEMENTED, THEY SAW 32% REDUCTION IN VIOLENT ASSAULTS.

SO I THINK FOR A LOT OF IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE, THOSE CLASSES ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

I PAID FOR A NUMBER OF THOSE CLASSES FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.

AND IF WE CAN WORK TOWARDS SCHOLARSHIPS WHERE WE CAN INCLUDE BOTH A GUN SAFE AS WELL AS A SCHOLARSHIP TO GUN SAFETY IN OUR INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PROBABLY HAVE AN INCOME YOU KNOW, ISSUE WITH AFFORDING THOSE GUN SAFETY CLASSES.

I THINK WE'LL MAKE SOME HEADWAY INTO THE STATISTIC OF REDUCING SOME EVIDENCE BASE AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT UP FOR THOUGHT. ANY THOUGHTS? OH, WELL, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK, COMMISSIONER.

ACTUALLY, WE'RE ALREADY AHEAD OF YOU. ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS IS TEXAS GUN SHOWS AND RIVER CITY TACTICAL, AS WELL AS A FEW OTHERS, AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS TO PUT TOGETHER SOME SMALLER CLASSES.

THAT WILL BE FREE AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ROLLING THOSE OUT LATER ON THIS FALL.

OKAY. WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. IN TERMS OF OUR AREA AND HELPING TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS OR PEOPLE THAT WE CAN MARKET TO, TO GET INTO THE REAL CORE OF WHERE THE VIOLENT CRIME IS HAPPENING AND HELP THEM REDUCE THE INCIDENCE OF GUN VIOLENCE.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

I WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT HERE. AND I'M NOT A LAWYER.

I'M NOT A JUDGE. I'M NOT THE DA. BUT AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER CREATIVE COULD BE INCORPORATE THIS,

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AND WE'VE SEEN SOME, SOME CASES THAT BOGGLE THE MIND WHEN IT COMES TO PARENTS NOT TAKING RESPONSIBLE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR CHILDREN'S ACTIONS. AND I JUST THINK IT'S IT'S COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET THAT MESSAGE MORE ACROSS.

OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ENSURES THAT THAT PARENTS ARE HELD RESPONSIBLE IN THOSE CASES.

BUT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CREATIVES KIND OF FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, YOUR KIDS AND THAT EMOTIONAL PLAY OF TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR KIDS.

BUT THERE'S THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING MAYBE HERE WHEN IT COMES TO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IF YOUR TEEN NOW GOES OFF AND TAKES A WEAPON AND COMMITS A CRIME OR COMMITS A TRAGEDY ON OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT BEARS WITH YOU AS THE OWNER, AS THE PARENT. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN CAPTURE THAT OR IF WE CAN CAPTURE THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT AS WELL, BECAUSE SOME OF THE THE RECENT STORIES AND CASES WE'VE SEEN ARE JUST ASTONISHING AND STUNNING FOR THE LACK OF AWARENESS BY SOME PARENTS INTO WHAT WHAT IS POSSIBLE WITH A FIREARM.

AND I JUST HOPE THAT THAT MESSAGE GETS OUT, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH CASES THAT ULTIMATELY ARE TRIED AND PEOPLE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT RESPONSIBILITY OR ANOTHER WAY. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS.

YEAH, I DO. I DID WANT TO GO ON RECORD TO SUPPORT THIS COUNTYWIDE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION ON RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP, I THINK. THE MARK OF THE TEAM.

TEXAS CREATIVE AND MONICA, AS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, YOU KIND OF HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, SO TO SPEAK, OF WHERE WE GO TO HAVE A MESSAGE THAT HOPEFULLY WILL HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC IN ORDER TO BETTER PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY IN REGARDS TO THESE GUN ISSUES, BUT ALSO WANT TO REFLECT THAT WE I KNOW WE RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY, BUT I KNOW THAT THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND CPS, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, YOU'RE IN THE ROOM.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAY IN AND DAY OUT BASIS IN PROTECTING CHILDREN AND WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT YOU'RE HERE TODAY AS PART OF THIS INITIATIVE.

I ALSO WANT TO REMIND AND APPLAUD THE COURT OF THE PRIOR ACTIONS THAT THIS COURT HAS TAKEN.

THIS IS A MULTIFACETED PROCESS. THIS IS JUST WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THINGS OVERNIGHT.

BY NO MEANS. AND WE'RE GOING TO HOPE THAT WE CAN START CHANGING THE CULTURE.

BECAUSE AS I'VE LEARNED OVER THESE YEARS, ESPECIALLY WITH CHILD WELFARE, ESPECIALLY WITH DOMESTIC AND FAMILY VIOLENCE AND CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, A LOT OF THOSE DIFFICULT ISSUES JUST KEEP GOING.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION OF THE PUBLIC.

BUT I NEED THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU DEAL WITH BEHAVIOR AND ACTION, ESPECIALLY OF INDIVIDUALS, WHICH YOU FIRST HAVE TO DO IS YOU HAVE TO CHANGE ATTITUDE AND BELIEFS.

AND IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THEN WE CAN, AS YOU SAY, COMMISSIONER MOODY, WE CAN PROSECUTE AND TRY TO UTILIZE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND THEIR FAILURES AND OMISSIONS AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT.

WE CAN TAKE MORE AGGRESSIVE EFFORTS TO TRY TO PROMOTE THIS EFFORT.

BUT I THINK THE COUNTY HAS TAKEN A VERY GOOD IT'S MIDDLE OF THE ROAD APPROACH OF HELPING THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND, TO CHANGE THOSE ATTITUDES AND BELIEFS THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CARRY A WEAPON.

YOU HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT. I AIN'T TAKING THAT AWAY FROM NOBODY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR RIGHT TO SECOND AMENDMENT LIKE ANY OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, YOU MUST ACT RESPONSIBLE. YEAH, YOU GOT A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU SAY THINGS INAPPROPRIATELY, GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

AND THIS COURT HAS HELD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

BUT LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THE COUNTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE IN REGARDS TO RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP.

WE'VE CONDUCTED GUN LOCK, GUN SAFE GIVEAWAYS.

RIGHT, MONICA? I'VE BEEN OUT IN THE SUN ALL YEAR.

ALL FOUR PRECINCTS. AND I THINK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN TO I DON'T KNOW IF THE SHERIFF IS STILL IN THE ROOM, BUT THE SHERIFF YOU HAVE PUT A MESSAGE OUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CARRY A GUN IN YOUR CAR.

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BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR.

SO ALL THESE BREAK INTO CARS ARE NOT NECESSARILY PEOPLE, JUST CRAZY JUVENILES THAT JUST WANT TO DO DESTRUCTION.

NO, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR WEAPONS AND THEY'RE USING THOSE WEAPONS THEN TO DO WHAT THEY DO.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WHEN THE COMMUNITY SAYS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT ALL THIS VIOLENCE? WELL, THEN BE RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS AND LET'S NOT KEEP FUELING THE GUN TRADE THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY IN ALL OF US.

AND SO LET'S NOT JUST LOOK AT THOSE PARENTS OR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAKE AN UNFORTUNATE, TRAGIC MISTAKE AND HAVE A CHILD DEATH AND TELL THEM, WELL, YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS OR SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT.

NO, WE ALL HAVE A DUTY, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT VESTED INTEREST, SO TO SPEAK.

SO I JUST WANT TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO.

GUN SAFETY. IT'S A MULTIFACETED APPROACH. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BE THOUGHTFUL.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CHANGE THE ATTITUDES AND BELIEFS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT GETTING READY TO MOVE INTO THE IMPORTANT SECOND PHASE AND WHATEVER FUTURE PHASES WE CHOOSE AS A COMMUNITY.

AND I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE TODAY.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. THE MOTION UNANIMOUSLY PASSES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. GIVE YOURSELF A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. I'M JUMPING AROUND AND I'M GOING TO NOW GO TO ITEM 56.

[56. Discussion and appropriate action related to a presentation from representatives from the Coliseum Advisory Board (CAB), the San Antonio Livestock and Exposition (SALE), and the County Manager regarding a proposal for the planning, acquisition, establishment, development, construction and renovation of the Frost Bank Center, Freeman Coliseum, Coliseum Grounds and supporting facilities and related multipurpose arena project for the San Antonio Spurs, both of which may be considered as venue projects in a potential future venue tax election under Chapter 334 of the Texas Local Government Code, to include a discussion of proposed methods of venue project financing of the projects through the motor vehicle rental and hotel occupancy tax and potential rate options. (Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Cody Davenport/Derrick Howard)]

I'M NOT GOING TO CALL YOU AS A CITIZEN TO BE HEARD. OTHERWISE I GOT TO LIMIT YOU TO THREE MINUTES.

BUT. AND ALSO, I THINK DAVID SMITH OR SOMEBODY FROM YOUR OFFICE.

SO LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. SO, JUDGE THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES IN MY HISTORY THAT THE THAT THE RODEO AND THE BLOSSOM ADVISORY BOARD HAS BEEN STANDING SIDE TO SIDE, PRESENTING SOMETHING TO YOU IN A FORMAL FASHION.

YOU AND THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASKED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT A LONG TERM VISION FOR THE GROUNDS AND FOR THE SITE TO HELP, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MAINTAINED IN AN ACTIVE AND VIABLE WAY IN THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW THAT THE THINGS ON THE SITE COULD CHANGE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AND IF THEY DO, THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN TO BE READY TO ENGAGE IF THAT CHANGE HAPPENS.

AND SO CODY AND I HAVE DONE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL, SEVERAL MONTHS IS AN EXTENSIVE REVIEW WITH NOT JUST HE AND I INDIVIDUALLY, BUT WITH EXPERTS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND NOT JUST HE AND I WITH EXPERTS AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY WENT TO LOCATIONS AND LAID OUR EYES ON THINGS AND BROUGHT BACK SOME GREAT IDEAS.

AND SO WHAT I HOPE YOU'LL FIND IN THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF ONE HISTORY.

SECOND, YOU KNOW WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO. AND THIRDLY, HOW WE INTEND TO EXPAND THAT GOING FORWARD.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CODY. YEAH. THANK YOU.

DEREK. LET'S SEE IF I CAN WORK THIS THING. LOOK AT THAT.

I WOULD START BY SAYING YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY PROUD RESIDENTS OF THE FACILITIES DOWN THERE.

WE HAVE BEEN FOR OVER 75 YEARS NOW. BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION, WITH JOE AND HARRY DONATING THE LAND DOWN THERE FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES AT THE VERY BEGINNING. SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO HAS BEEN VERY LOYAL TENANTS TO THE COUNTY, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

WE ALSO ARE PROUD MEMBERS OF THE EAST SIDE COMMUNITY OVER THERE.

WE ACTUALLY OWN 166 56 ACRES THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED THROUGH THE YEARS, WITH OUR OWN FUNDS OUT THERE TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND TO EXPAND.

WE'RE VESTED NEIGHBORS OVER THERE INSIDE OF THE EAST SIDE.

AND I THINK THAT THIS PLAN THAT DEREK AND I ARE GOING TO ROLL OUT IN FRONT OF YOU WILL ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO FORWARD ANOTHER 75 YEARS,

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A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR SHOW. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT. WE ALL KNOW THAT TIMES ARE CHANGING.

WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS ARE CHANGING. WE KNOW THE SHOW IS CHANGING AND WE'RE GROWING AND CHANGING WITH IT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IS THAT WE ARE WORKING TO NOT JUST IMPACT ACROSS THE STATE AND ALL PRECINCTS IN BEXAR COUNTY, AS WE HAVE FOR YEARS, BUT TO REACH OUT TO OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, WE WANT THE KIDS TO GROW UP IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA, TO BE SO PROUD AND FEEL SO LUCKY THAT THEY GOT TO GROW UP RIGHT NEXT TO THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO.

AND IN THAT PROCESS, WE'VE GONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO STUDY WRITING PROGRAMS FOR INNER CITIES THAT WE COULD DO, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OUR OWN FUNDS, BOUGHT THE HORSES, BOUGHT THE LAND, AND WE WILL BE STARTING THAT ACTUALLY HERE IN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH YOUTH KIDS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE AREA. WE'RE DOING AG OUTREACH DAYS WHERE WE BRING ALL THE NEIGHBORS OVER AND GET TO KNOW THEM MUCH BETTER.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE INTEGRATING THEM INTO OUR SHOW OPERATIONAL SIDE SO THAT WE CAN GIVE TO CHARITIES.

FROM SAM HOUSTON TO SAINT PHILIP'S CULINARY TO ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE'RE BRINGING THEM ALL IN TO OUR OPERATIONS SO THAT OUR FUNDS, INSTEAD OF GOING TO THIRD PARTIES, CAN NOW GO BACK IN TO THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO OFF ON A TANGENT, BUT I WANT TO SAY THE REASON WE'RE DOING ALL THIS, QUITE FRANKLY, GUYS, IS TO DO WHAT WE DO BEST, AND THAT'S TO HELP KIDS FURTHER THEIR CAREERS, FURTHER THEIR EDUCATION, FURTHER THEIR DREAMS. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO IF I CAN GET THEM IN THEIR RIDING HORSES, GET THEM OVER THERE ON OUR PROGRAMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE CAN GO WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO GO AND NEED TO GO, AND THAT'S START TAKING THE KIDS AROUND US AND HELP THEM PURSUE THEIR DREAMS TO GROW DIRT.

ANYTHING, JUDGE? NO DIFFERENT THAN CODY SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S DOING THAT THEY'LL BE DOING.

AS YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT I THINK ARE VERY FOREMOST IN FIRST GRADUATIONS, I THINK IS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING COMPONENTS THAT WE DO ON THE SITE.

WE CONTINUE TO WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO DO THOSE GRADUATIONS.

I MEAN, SITTING HERE TODAY, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ODDLY ENOUGH, ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT TODAY, SOME KIND OF EXERCISE OR EDUCATIONAL UPLIFT OR TRAINING HAPPENS ON OUR PROPERTY THAT DEALS WITH WHETHER IT'S CRIME, WHETHER IT'S TRAINING FOR WEAPONS, WHETHER WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL ISSUES.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WE LOOK, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DO WITH THESE NEW FACILITIES IS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN ENHANCED SPACES.

YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, NO DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US HAD TO GO THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE OF COVID.

AS YOU KNOW, THAT SITE PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN COVID IN THIS COMMUNITY AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY.

WHETHER IT WAS GIVING INFUSIONS OR DOING TESTING JUST SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR HEALTH CONDITIONS WERE ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

AND EVEN AFTER THEN, WE CONTINUE TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE THAT INVOLVED SOME HUMANITARIAN SUPPORT.

EXCUSE ME FOR INTERJECTING, BUT I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND ON YOUR FIRST COLUMN, THOSE PARTICULAR EVENTS IS WHAT MAKES MONEY FOR THE COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD AND HELPS SUPPORT THE MAINTENANCE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY OF CAB.

CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET PRESENTED WITH IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE ABILITY TO TO HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL LOCAL ENTITY DISTRICT THERE THAT WILL EXPAND THAT FIRST COLUMN.

CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND THEN ON YOUR SECOND COLUMN IS REALLY WHERE, AS YOU POINTED OUT, COVID, ESPECIALLY. I'LL BRING HIS NAME IN BECAUSE HE HAS THE ULTIMATE RESPECT.

THE LATE CAL COLEMAN, WHO RAN THE WHO RAN THE RELIEF OF DURING COVID AND THE COUNTY REALLY STEPPED UP ITS GAME, SO TO SPEAK, IN A CERTAIN EXTENT.

AND, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED.

WHENEVER WE HAVE ANY DISASTER EMERGENCY, WHETHER IT'S MIGRANT CHILDREN OR PEOPLE THAT COME UP FROM THE COAST, FROM HURRICANE RELIEF TO FOOD BANK DRIVES, THE COUNTY STEPS UP ON THAT SECOND COLUMN.

AND IT GOES BACK TO MY EARLIER COMMENT. WE MAY BE HAVING TO DEPLOY THOSE SERVICES AS WE GO IN THE FUTURE.

IS THAT SO? WE NEED TO BE PREPARED IN BOTH SIDES.

HOW DO WE MAKE THIS AREA VIABLE, SUSTAINABLE? BUT HOW DO WE BETTER PROVIDE FOR THOSE THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT IN OUR COMMUNITY? IS THAT IS THAT A GOOD CONCLUSION OF THAT VERY WELL.

AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IN THE FUTURE, THESE ASSETS WILL BE AN ENHANCED ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE EVEN USED THE BUILDINGS FOR HOSPITALS AND SO FORTH, WHETHER IT'S HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR SOME OF THE ELDERLY.

AND SO AS WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, THE SPACES WILL BE MORE COMPLEMENTARY TO THOSE ISSUES.

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I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE SHARING THAT, MIKE, BUT WOULD YOU MIND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, GETTING IN FRONT OF THE MIKE BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO HEAR. SORRY.

THANK YOU SIR. SO I THINK IS THAT GOOD? I THINK IT'S BETTER TO WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THE RODEO HAS IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.

$330 MILLION INSIDE OF BEXAR COUNTY, JUST INSIDE OF THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS EXPANSION.

BUT WE DO 37 MILLION THROUGHOUT ANNUAL FUNDRAISING AROUND.

SO THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT IS CAN HAPPEN. AS WE SPREAD OUT FOR A TOTAL OF 367 MILLION.

AND A LITTLE BIT LATER ON, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE PROJECT GOING FORWARD.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE WITHIN ONE MONTH, $330 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT, 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE ON THOSE GROUNDS, WE GET TO EXPERIENCE THOSE GROUNDS AT ITS FULL CAPACITY, AND THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO OUR PLAN AND WORK TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT LATER TO CORRECT.

SO NEXT, WE WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH, AND COMMISSIONERS WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH KIND OF HOW WE SEE THE SITE BEGINNING TO DIVIDE GOING FORWARD.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE WILL ACTUALLY SHOW YOU BASICALLY A BREAKDOWN OF THE SITE.

AND IF YOU KIND OF TAKE A MENTAL PICTURE AND DRAW A MENTAL LINE BETWEEN THE FREEMAN AND THE EXPO AND THE FROST BANK CENTER FROM HOUSTON STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK 40 AND THINK ABOUT THE WESTERN PART, THE PART THAT'S CLOSEST TO DOWNTOWN ARE THE RAILROAD TRACKS, AS WE CALL IT, BEING MORE OF THE WESTERN ZONE.

CODY'S GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT AND HOW HE INTENDS TO ACTIVATE THAT, AND HOW HE INTENDS TO PUSH THAT FORWARD. AT THE SAME TIME, NOT FORGETTING THAT THESE FACILITIES COULD STILL BE UTILIZED IN THE NEED OF EMERGENCY SUPPORT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE EAST SIDE. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, THE ONE THING WE WANT, WE WANT TO TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY IS THAT THERE WILL BE NO LOSS IN THE EFFORT AND THE COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE FREEMEN IN THE IN THE FROST BUILDING BY BY OUR TEAM.

AND SO THAT THAT GOES WITHOUT WITHOUT SAYING.

BUT BUT THIS PRESENTATION TODAY REALLY IS GOING TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE. SOME OF THE EXHIBITION SPACES IN THE BACK. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON THE ORANGE BOXES. AND SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE WEST SIDE THERE'S A NEW FLEX BUILDING FOR THE EXISTING.

THERE'S AN EXISTING EXPO HALL THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN BEFORE.

THAT SMALL ORANGE PIECES IS AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MINOR ADDITION TO THAT, TO THAT BUILDING BEHIND IT IS A HORSE STALL. AND AGAIN, THAT ORANGE SPOT IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MINOR ADDITION TO THAT SPACE.

BUT NOW I WANT TO BRING YOU TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO ON THE EAST SIDE OF PROPERTY YOU SEE THE NEW FLEX BUILDING THREE AND FLEX BUILDING FIVE.

AND THEN YOU SEE THIS GREEN AREA IN THE MIDDLE. THIS NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW YOU KIND OF AN INDICATION OF.

WHAT IT COULD LOOK WHAT WE PLAN TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE AS IT RELATES TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CREATING SOME GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN THESE BUILDINGS.

THE BUILDING ON, AS WE CALL IT, THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THAT FREEMAN BOULEVARD AREA IS A FACILITY THAT WE INTEND TO TEAR COMPLETELY DOWN.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU BUILD A SWINE BARN, YOU BUILD ANOTHER BARN, AND YOU BUILD ANOTHER BARN ON TOP OF IT. AND AND OVER THE YEARS, EACH ONE OF THEM, THEY'RE SO INCONSISTENT AND AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE REALLY COMING TO AN END OF LIFE. AND SO THEY NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED.

AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, WHERE YOU SEE THE CATTLE BARN.

COLLARBONE. I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE GET THERE. NEXT SLIDE. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO WALK INTO TO THE NEW TO THE NEW FLEX BUILDING. BUILDING THREE.

ONCE WE GET IN HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT JUST LIKE HOUSTON AND A LOT OF OTHER AREAS, WE'RE MAKING THESE MAJOR INVESTMENTS.

WE CAN DO A TON OF THINGS WITHIN THESE SPACES.

YOU CAN SEE WE CAN STILL HOST RODEOS WITH SOME OF THE ANIMAL.

ANIMAL PENS IN THE SAME BUILDING. WE CAN DO A BANQUET, WE CAN DO A COMIC-CON, WE CAN DO AN RV SHOW.

AND THESE ARE THE SHOWS THAT ACTUALLY WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, THAT THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THIS PLAN IS THAT IF, IN FACT, WE'RE ABLE TO GET THERE, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE OR AT LEAST TO GROW INTO MOST OF THE NEW SPACES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE OTHER THING THAT WE DIDN'T FIT IS SPORTS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TRY TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY HEALTHY.

AND SO YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF PICKLEBALL AS WELL AS TENNIS.

SO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BRING UP MORE AND MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF KEEP THEM ENGAGED ON THE SITE. THE NEXT BUILDING YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IS THE BUILDING FIRE.

BUILDING FIVE IS A BUILDING THAT, THANKS TO THE COMMISSIONERS WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD BACK IN 2015.

IT'S ABOUT A 250,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT IN THE IN THE WAY WE OPERATED TODAY.

IT'S EFFECTIVELY A CATTLE BARN DURING THE RODEO.

BUT BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION AND BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE WAY WE BOOKED THE SITE, IT'S JUST A HARD BUILDING TO GET TO, TO UTILIZE DURING RODEO SEASON.

AND SO IT'S EFFECTIVELY A FACILITY KIND OF HAS REALLY NICE BONES, BUT IS IS UNDERUTILIZED BY BY MAJOR PERSPECTIVE IN

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AND SO WE PLAN TO DO IN THIS BUILDING IS GO IN AND CLIMATE CONTROL IT PUT IN PUT IN A CENTER CLOSURE SO WE CAN BOOK ONE HALF OR THE OTHER HALF.

SO NOW YOU'VE GOT 100,000 OR 100,000FT² ON EITHER SIDE.

AND THEN IN THE SAME BUILDING BACK TO THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT FOR BEING FLEXIBLE.

WE CAN DO OTHER SHOWS IN THIS BUILDING. SO THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW YOU KIND OF AN EXTERIOR KIND OF WALK THROUGH POTENTIALLY A CAR SHOW ONCE WE GET INSIDE.

THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS BUILDING IS THIS, THIS BUILDING HAS MORE COLUMNS IN IT THAN THE NEW BUILDING WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IN OUR INDUSTRY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONVENTION CENTERS AND TRADESHOW SPACES LOVE TO HAVE IS TRUE COLUMN FREE SPACE.

WE DON'T. IN OUR INDUSTRY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PROMOTERS LOVE TO HAVE IS WHAT THEY CALL COLUMN FREE SPACE.

SO BASICALLY THEY CAN WALK INTO THE BUILDING AS THIS AND LOOK AT IT AND CREATE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CREATE DOWN THE ZONES WITHOUT HAVING TO GO, WELL, IF THIS BOOTH IS, YOU KNOW, HAS AN L SHAPE, IT BUMPS INTO THE LEG, RIGHT? THE CLEANER IT IS, THE BETTER IT IS. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT EVEN EVEN WITH THESE COLUMNS, THIS BUILDING WILL STILL SET UP FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SOME REALLY COOL THINGS, KEEP IT ENGAGED, AND WE SEE THINGS LIKE SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL TRADE SHOWS ALREADY MENTIONED, THE RV SHOW WOULD MOVE INTO THIS BUILDING.

OUR JURASSIC QUEST WILL BE IN THIS BUILDING. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, OUR JURASSIC CORPS SHOW HAS ONE OF THE DINOSAURS, IS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF STORIES, AND SO IT WILL MAKE A GREAT COMPLIMENT FOR THIS SPACE.

THEN OBVIOUSLY LOW RIDER CAR SHOWS GETTING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AGAIN.

BASKETBALL WILL WORK GREAT IN THIS BUILDING. JUST THE WAY HOW IT LAYS OUT IN THE IN THE AREAS BETWEEN THE COLUMNS.

AND SO WE COULD DO TOURNAMENTS IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH WITH THE KIDS. NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CODY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE WEST SIDE.

SO I THINK THE ONE OF THE KEY THINGS TO TALK ABOUT HERE IS CREATING VIBRANCY ON THE GROUND.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THESE FLEX BUILDINGS THAT DEREK JUST REFERENCED AND TALKED ABOUT. RIGHT NOW, AS HE KIND OF MENTIONED, WE'RE HEMMED IN THE WAY BUILDINGS WERE KIND OF BUILT AS WE WENT ALONG. THEY'RE JUST HODGEPODGE ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT'S VERY HARD TO WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE VIBRANCY DOWN THERE. THIS LAYOUT HERE WOULD ALLOW THIS BUILDING FOR ALL THOSE OLD BARNS THAT ARE BACK THERE THAT NEED TO BE TORN DOWN.

THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BECOME THE NEW. YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENT LIVESTOCK CENTER FOR THAT.

BUT IT IS A FLEX BUILDING, SO IT CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE PURPOSES, SIMILAR TO WHAT DERRICK SHOWED, WHERE YOU CAN CLEAR IT OUT AND WE CAN COME IN AND DO OTHER THINGS INSIDE OF IT AS WELL. BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS OUR LIVESTOCK, FROM THE YOUTH EVENTS TO THE BREED SHOWS TO EVEN GOING AFTER BIG STATE THINGS LIKE FOUR H AND FFA CONVENTIONS LIKE THAT. IT ALLOWS THAT TO OPERATE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING, YOU KNOW, HAPPENING AT ONE TIME WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY UP AT THREE AND FIVE.

THERE CAN BE THE EXPOS. THE DINOSAUR SHOWS ALL THESE THINGS GOING ON TO CREATE THAT VIBRANCY ON THE GROUNDS.

AND NOW WE'RE CROSS SECTIONING PEOPLE AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWN THERE, THE LIVESTOCK, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO, VICE VERSA. YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING TO CREATE THAT VIBRANCY AND IDENTITY ON THE GROUNDS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON.

SO FOUR WOULD ALLOW US TO BE ON THE PERIMETER, CREATE A SAFETY, A MUCH SAFER AREA WHERE WE CAN LOAD IN AND OUT WITH THE TRAILERS WHILE THINGS ARE GOING ON AND YET RETAIN THAT FLEXIBILITY.

THE NEXT ONE JUST KIND OF SHOWS THE EXTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING.

ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE GROUNDS IS, AS THEY WERE BUILT AS THEY WENT ALONG, IT LOOKS LIKE AN ASPHALT JUNGLE OUT THERE.

AND IT'S JUST THESE OLD BARNS THROWN UP EVERYWHERE, RIGHT? AND THIS STARTS CREATING TO WHERE THEY ALL CONNECT TOGETHER.

THEY LOOK UNIFIED. THEY LOOK LIKE WE'RE DOWN THERE TOGETHER. SO THE EXTERIOR IS ON.

ALL THE BUILDINGS HAVE THIS NICE, UNIFIED, WARM, INVITING LOOK.

THIS IS THE NUCLEUS TO THE SAN ANTONIO STOCK SHOW AND RODEO.

PLAN OF WHAT WE REFERENCE GOING YEAR ROUND. WE KNOW BASED UPON OUR HISTORY AND EXPERIENCE AND WORKING IN THE PEERS ACROSS THE NATION, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING PEOPLE DOWN HERE YEAR ROUND.

AND WITH THIS BUILDING HERE. AND I'LL SHOW SOME INTERIOR ELEVATIONS HERE SHORTLY.

THIS WOULD BECOME A 2800 SEAT ARENA INSIDE OF THAT.

AND THAT'S THE TARGET YOU WANT. THAT'S THE TARGET FOR KEEPING EVERY, YOU KNOW, ACTION GOING JUST CONSTANTLY YEAR ROUND.

THAT WOULD BE THE NUCLEUS OF US BRINGING PEOPLE DOWN.

WE TALK ABOUT THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO THESE EVENTS.

THEY STAY AN AVERAGE OF THREE DAYS AND THEY'RE BRINGING IN OUTSIDE MONEY, AND THEY DON'T LIKE TO TRAVEL VERY FAR FROM THEIR TRAILERS OR THEIR HORSES, WHICH ALLOW THEM TO HOPEFULLY STAY IN THE AREA AND ALLOW OPPORTUNITIES INSIDE OF THAT.

BUT IT WORKS EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND. ACTION GOING CONSTANTLY TO WORK SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE THINGS THAT DEREK WOULD BRING IN AND BE AT CONCERTS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY DEREK HAD MENTIONED EARLY ON ABOUT THE FREEMAN COLISEUM AND THE FROST BANK.

YES. WE'RE ISOLATED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE NEW BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW, BUT THE FREEMAN AND THE FROST BANK CENTER ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

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EXPO HALL ONE JUST KIND OF SHOWING AGAIN, THAT EXTERIOR LOOK OF EVERYTHING BEING UNIFIED, UNIFIED OUT THERE.

CONCEPTUALLY, I WON'T GO WAY DOWN INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS, BUT WHAT I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW IS THAT, AS DEREK MENTIONED, WE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE NATION AND THIS IS OUR INDUSTRY THAT WE UNDERSTAND AND THE DESIGN INSIDE OF THIS THING.

THE KEY WORD HERE IS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO COMPETE.

IT ALLOWS US TO COMPETE WITH OUTSIDE ENTITIES THAT ARE ALL OVER OUR STATE RIGHT NOW, CHOOSING TO BE IN OTHER CITIES AND OTHER LOCATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FACILITIES LIKE THIS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE WARM UP ARENA, HOW IT CAN GET TO THE PRODUCTION ARENA, TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE INSIDE OF THAT, ALL THESE TYPES OF THINGS SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND WE CAN COMPETE ACROSS THE STATE TO BE BRINGING PEOPLE IN HERE. THIS FACILITY ALLOWS US TO GO DO THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. HERE ARE SOME INTERIOR ELEVATIONS OF IT.

IT WOULD HAVE A NICE VIP BAR RESTAURANT ABOVE IT THAT CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE MULTIPLE THINGS AS WELL, BUT CREATING THAT HIGHER END EXPERIENCE INSIDE OF THERE SO WE CAN GO AFTER THE BIG ONES FROM, YOU KNOW, POLO TO OLYMPIC PRELIMS TO EVERYTHING ACROSS THE INDUSTRY, NOT JUST RODEO, BUT WE CAN GO AFTER EVERY EQUESTRIAN EVENT OUT THERE WITH THIS TYPE OF FACILITY. IT HAS A VERY PERMANENT FEEL TO IT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE JUST SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OLD BARN THAT WAS THROWN UP WITH A BUNCH OF ALUMINUM SEATING IN THERE.

IT HAS A VERY NICE, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT FEEL TO IT.

IT ALLOWS US TO PRODUCE LIKE WE DO IN THE AT&T CENTER NOW, JUST ON A SMALLER SCALE TO KEEP THOSE THAT MARKET GOING THAT WE CAN TARGET OUT THERE.

THIS IS BIG. MR. CALVERT, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO BOTH OF US.

ONE ONE GREAT THING ABOUT OUR EVENT IS IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, WE GET 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN THERE.

THE BAD THING ABOUT OUR EVENT IN FEBRUARY IS I GET TO EXPERIENCE EVERY SINGLE PARKING AND TRAFFIC ISSUE THAT YOU POSSIBLY COULD HAVE.

IT'S NOT. IT'S. THE GROUNDS ARE NOT IDEAL FOR TRAFFIC FLOW.

THEY'RE NOT. BUT WE HAVE BROUGHT IN AN ENGINEER.

A SPECIALIST FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US IN OUR PEAK SEASON THROUGH MULTIPLE STUDIES.

AND ONE THING THAT DEREK AND I BELIEVE WE CAN DO TO ALLEVIATE THIS AND MAKE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SO MUCH BETTER IS IF YOU KIND OF GLANCE THERE, THE ARROWS, THE RED ONES WOULD KIND OF LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE RUNNING A BIG ESCARAMUZA COMPETITION.

SO THEY WOULD COME IN FROM WHAT WE REFERENCED, THE NORTHEAST GATE UP THERE, WE'D CREATE A NEW GATE UP THERE.

THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE RED ARROWS. WE WOULD KIND OF CONTROL THE PARKING LOTS UP ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THEY WOULD DROP DOWN ON THESE NEW BRIDGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

SO THE PROPERTY IS NO LONGER DIVIDED IN HALF.

WE NOW HAVE CIRCULAR MOTION ALL THE WAY AROUND, DROP DOWN, OFFLOAD AND MOVE BACK OUT, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY THERE COULD BE A CONCERT GOING ON OR A BIG EXPO, AND THEY'D BE USING THE STANDARD WEST GATE THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH AND FOLLOWING THE BLUE ARROWS.

SO WE'RE NOT LOGGING LOG, JAMMING EACH OTHER UP WITH TRAFFIC, BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW GREAT THE EXPERIENCE IS DOWN THERE, HOW PEOPLE LEAVE THOSE GROUNDS AND THE TRAFFIC THAT THEY EXPERIENCE IS THE LAST THING THAT THEY REMEMBER. SO DEREK AND I HAVE WORKED EXTENSIVELY ON HOW WE CAN MAKE THE TRAFFIC FLOW BETTER AND GET RID OF CONES. LET'S MAKE IT A NICE EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND THOSE GROUNDS.

AND COMMISSIONER CALVERT. JUST A QUICK RENDERING TO SHOW WHAT THAT THAT NORTHEAST KIND OF COULD LOOK LIKE A LITTLE WIDER FOR TRAILERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, MOVE THEM IN AND OUT. THE KEY IS TO GET THEM OFF FROST BANK PARKWAY, MULTIPLE LANES, GET THEM ONTO THE GROUNDS, AND QUIT BACKING UP TRAFFIC FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA AND PEOPLE COMING IN FOR CONCERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OH, JUST JUST AN EXAMPLE OF YOUR INACTIVITY. I GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT IN THE INDUSTRY, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. THEY'RE LIKE, OH, YOU'RE GOING TO RUN A RODEO EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND. ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS INDUSTRY IS MASSIVE. I MEAN, ACROSS THE BOARD. IT IS MASSIVE FROM RODEO TO EQUESTRIAN, TO YOU NAME IT.

IF IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH STOCK HORSES, IT'S OUT THERE AND IT'S BIG AND WE CAN JUST LOAD UP.

AND THEY ARE CALLING NOW, AND I HAVE TO TELL THEM ALL THE TIME, I HAVE TO TURN THEM AWAY AND SAY, I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY RIGHT NOW.

I'M CONTRACTUALLY BOUND. I HAVE TO TURN YOU AWAY.

BIG EVENTS. THEY COULD BE BRINGING THESE PEOPLE IN ON THIS TYPE OF STUFF. I KNOW DEREK WANTS TO TALK TO YOU SOME ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL. I WANT TO JUST KICK BACK REALLY QUICK TO THE SLIDE THAT CODY WAS TALKING ABOUT ON THE TRAFFIC FLOW.

THE ONE THING YOU'LL NOTICE ARE THOSE THREE BRIDGES, THOSE THOSE THREE GREAT LINES ACROSS ACROSS THERE.

THOSE ARE REALLY GOING TO BE MAJOR SUPPORT SYSTEMS FOR HOW WE MANAGE TRAFFIC.

TO SOME DEGREE. WE MAY UTILIZE IT IN TIMES WHEN THERE'S WHEN THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS AS PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

BUT WE WILL CONTROL THAT WITH STAFFING AND TEAMING.

BUT WHEN WE DO NEED IT TO THIS POINT, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE IT AND BE ABLE TO OPERATE EVENTS AT A MUCH MORE CLEAN,

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WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO A BIG COUNTY WIDE EVENT.

YOU WANT TO CORRECT? YEP. MR. SLOT I APOLOGIZE.

SO IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT CODY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING SPECIFICALLY TO THE ANIMALS AND TO THE LIVESTOCK, OTHER THINGS THAT WE THINK WILL BE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR US IS AN ANNUAL COUNTY COUNTY FAIR.

WE DO NOT HAVE ONE. A LOT OF COUNTIES HAVE THEM.

WE'VE GOT WHAT I THINK ARE PROBABLY THE ONE KEY INGREDIENT.

INCREDIBLE FACILITIES. THE SECOND KEY INGREDIENT, I THINK, IS OR TWO PARTNERS THAT UNDERSTAND THE INDUSTRY AND KNOW HOW TO GO OUT AND GET AND BRING IN EVENTS AND DO THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY IN A VERY UNIQUE WAY.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE CERTAINLY THINK WE CAN EXPAND EXPOSITIONS NO DIFFERENT THAN CODY'S PHONE HAS BEEN RINGING OFF THE HOOK FOR ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THIS SPACE. OUR PHONE DOES THE SAME THING.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE NOW IN THE EXPERT SPACE.

IN MANY CASES, WE JUST CAN'T DO IT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO A CONCERT, A SPURS GAME AND SOMETHING NEXT WEEK BECAUSE JUST EAT THOSE RED AND BLUE CIRCLES WOULDN'T EVEN WORK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? AND SO THOSE BUILDINGS GET A LITTLE BIT CONSTRAINT WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE OPERATING OTHER FACILITIES AND OTHER SPACES THAT KIND OF TIE OUR ABILITY TO UTILIZE THOSE SPACES KIND OF CONJOINTLY.

NOW, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY IN SOME CASES TO DO ALL THREE.

AND THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE EVENTS ENDED ABOUT 2 OR 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.

AND THEN WE KICK OFF CONCERTS AND GAMES AND OTHER THINGS.

SO WHEN THOSE COME IN, THOSE ARE AWESOME. BUT BUT MANY TIMES A LOT OF THE VENDORS WANT, YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS OR AT LEAST A TEN HOUR WINDOW A DAY TO OPERATE THEIR SPACES.

WE CERTAINLY THINK WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE CREATE WORKFORCE AND CAREER DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ITS OPERATIONS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID NOT FOCUS ON, ON THE GREEN SPACE WHEN YOU SAW IT FROM FROM THAT VIEW FROM, FROM THE FERRIS WHEEL IS THAT WE FEEL LIKE THAT WE CAN DO LOTS MORE COMMUNITY EVENTS WITHIN THAT GREEN SPACE, SOMETHING WE CAN DO FOR FREE. OR WE COULD JUST PUT MUSICIANS OUT THERE AND BRING IN SOME VENDORS TO SELL THINGS AND AND SOME OF THE COOLER TIMES OF THE YEAR.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, JUST OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT I THINK WE CAN CREATE OVER TIME.

SO WE DID GO OUT AND WE HAD A STUDY DONE ON KIND OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS FAR AS ACTIVATING THE ARENA OVER THERE IN THE FACILITIES.

NOW, THIS IS STRICTLY THIS IS THIS IS FROM OUR SIDE.

YOU KNOW, WE NOT COMBINING THE TWO TOGETHER, JUST REFERENCING OUR SIDE HERE.

BUT WE CAME BACK WITH AN ADDITIONAL $384 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT BY BEING ABLE TO ALLOW THE RODEO TO EXPAND TO ACTIVATE YEAR ROUND.

SO ESSENTIALLY DOUBLING WHAT WE CAPTURE IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, SPREAD IT OUT OVER THE REMAINING MONTHS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO DOUBLE OUR ECONOMIC IMPACT.

I KNOW, COMMISSIONER MOODY, THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS SOMETHING FOR YOU THERE.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST DREAMED UP AND THOUGHT, HEY, MAYBE THIS WILL WORK.

I THINK UP TO THE NORTH, FORT WORTH HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB FOR THE CITY OF FORT WORTH.

COMBINED WITH THE FORT WORTH STOCK SHOW AND RODEO AND THE STOCKYARDS DOWN THERE HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB OF CAPTURING THIS.

AND ONE INTERESTING THING INSIDE OF THERE SAN ANTONIO IS ONE OF THEIR TOP FEEDER MARKETS.

OUR RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY TRAVELING UP TO FORT WORTH TO GET THAT EXPERIENCE.

I MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BIASED BECAUSE I LOVE MY HOME HERE.

BUT I THINK BEING THE GATEWAY TO SOUTH TEXAS AND MEXICO, FORT WORTH SHOULD NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO US DOWN HERE.

I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLODE INSIDE OF MARKETS.

ANOTHER ONE IS UP IN VEGAS SOUTH POINT ARENA.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH SOUTH POINT, MICHAEL GAUGHAN LITERALLY BUILT AN ARENA INSIDE OF HIS CASINO.

HE WENT OFF THE STRIP COMPLETELY BEAT THE MARKET BY PUTTING AN ARENA INSIDE OF THERE AND CAPTURING THIS MARKET IN WHOLE TO KEEP HIS ROOMS FULL AND HIS CASINO FULL. AND HE'S NOT BANGING HIS HEAD AGAINST THE WALL, GOING HEAD TO HEAD WITH EVERY OTHER SINGLE CASINO DOWN THERE ON THE STRIP.

HE HAS FOUND THAT NICHE MARKET. I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS AND DOING AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB WITH IT.

DEREK, I THINK THIS IS THE SLIDE YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR.

THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN CONSULTANTS TO COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR VISION IS AND PUT NUMBERS TO IT.

THE WAY IT'S BROKEN DOWN ON THIS SHEET IS EFFECTIVELY BY BUILDING OR BY SPECIFIC OPERATIONAL ACTIVITY.

AS AN EXAMPLE, THE FIRST ONE IS BUILDING DEMO, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. BUT AS YOU WALK THROUGH, IT'S BROKEN OUT INTO THOSE PIE SLICES WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF REALLY TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO IT. AND THE NUMBER THAT'S RIGHT UNDER 200 MILLION.

ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER CALVERT. SO JUST TO START WITH THIS SLIDE,

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I KNOW WE TOLD YOU THAT NUMBER WOULD DEFINITELY WASN'T GOING TO WORK. SO THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO WORK WITH THAT. I WANT TO THANK DEREK AND MY APPOINTEE TO CAB.

CINDY'S HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME FOR BEING HERE.

I HAVE TO SAY, DEREK AND CINDY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ME FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS DURING MY FIRST TERM, TO HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE AND THE NEED TO REALLY IMPROVE OUR GROUNDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, TWO REALLY IMPORTANT STAPLES OF BEXAR COUNTY, THE FREEMAN COLISEUM AND THE RODEO.

EARLY ON THE IN THE PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT ALL THE THINGS.

SO I HAVE TO SAY, I'VE SAID IT PUBLICLY BEFORE I GRADUATED FROM OAK RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL IN THE FREEMAN COLISEUM.

GAVE MY VALEDICTORIAN SPEECH THERE. AND ALSO SAW MY FIRST CONCERT.

I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS BECAUSE SOME OF YOU WILL MAKE FUN OF ME. I ALSO SAW MY FIRST CONCERT THERE.

AND AS JUDGE SAKAI AND AS JUDGE SAKAI REFERENCED THE HUMANITARIAN WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE THERE.

AND I WANT TO THANK CAB. FOUR YEARS AGO, CAB AND DERRICK, FOR STEPPING UP TO TAKE ON THE CONTRACT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COST TAXPAYERS MONEY TO SERVE THE MIGRANT CHILDREN THERE.

AND THAT WAS REALLY ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF MY FIRST TERM.

SO IT REALLY IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. SO I DEFINITELY COMMIT TO SUPPORTING, TAKING CARE OF OUR COUNTY ASSETS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RODEO AND THE FREEMAN COLISEUM HAVE THE FUNDING THAT THEY NEED SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP THESE TWO REALLY IMPORTANT HISTORICAL STAPLES HERE. I ALSO JUST WANT TO THANK CODY.

I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER YOUR TENURE THAT YOU STARTED THE NOCHE DE VAQUEROS.

CORRECT? DURING THE RODEO. YES, MA'AM. SO I THINK WE NEED TWO OF THOSE NIGHTS.

ISN'T THAT RIGHT, CINDY? YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO. TWO WEEKS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, YOU AND I WILL PARTNER ON THAT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO JUST FOR THE RECORD HERE, YOUR VERBAL COMMITMENT TO WORK WITH THE LOCAL CHARREADA GROUP.

THAT IS, OF COURSE, IN MY PRECINCT ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

YOU HAVE A VERBAL COMMITMENT TO THAT. SO. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO I JUST THINK IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDED MOTION.

I'M GOING TO READ IT. IT'S QUITE LENGTHY. MOTION TO DIRECT THE COUNTY MANAGER TO PREPARE A DRAFT RESOLUTION THAT DESCRIBES THE PROPOSED VENUE PROJECTS IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS PRESENTED TO COMMISSIONERS COURT, INCLUDING THE RENOVATION AND REDEVELOPMENT OF FEMA COLISEUM GROUNDS FOOTPRINT AND FACILITIES, AND A NEW MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA PROJECT FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS AND SETTING OUT PROPOSED METHODS OF VENUE PROJECT FINANCING BY CONTINUING THE MOTOR VEHICLE RENTAL TAX AT THE RATE OF 5% AND INCREASING THE HOTEL TAX RATE FROM 1.75% TO 2%.

AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS INCREASING WHAT WE CALL THE HOT TAX, OR THE HOTEL TAX OR THE VENUE TAX.

IT IS NOT INCREASING TAX TO OUR LOCAL BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENTS, AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS, IN ORDER TO SEEK A DETERMINATION OF ELIGIBILITY FOR VENUE TAX FUNDING UNDER APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 334, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AS NECESSARY TO CONFIRM THAT THE PROPOSED VENUE PROJECTS WILL NOT RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE FISCAL IMPACT ON STATE REVENUE.

TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COURT FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING, WITH SUFFICIENT TIME TO SATISFY ALL STATUTORY DEADLINES AND ALLOW THE COURT TO CALL AN ELECTION IF IT CHOOSES TO PROCEED. SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, COMMISSIONER CALVERT. AND THEN WE'LL GO WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ AND THEN COMMISSIONER MOODY. AND JUST ONE MORE THING. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO AUDREY SMITH SANCHEZ, WHO IS HERE.

AND I HAVE TOLD CODY, I THINK BRINGING HER ON HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT THE RODEO HAS DONE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMUNICATION AND YOUR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SHE'S A VALLEY GIRL TOO.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER CALVERT, THANK YOU, JUDGE, AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN SEE AND DIGEST. AND I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFINE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY BASELINE REACTION IS IT'S A START IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR REFINEMENT IN THESE PLANS.

AND I WANT TO THANK DERRICK AND CODY FOR THIS COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AND VIEW.

AND THIS HAS BEEN HELPFUL. THINGS FEEL RUSHED JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SUMMER DEADLINE.

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THAT IS THE NAME THAT WE HAVE ON IT. I DON'T THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS VETTED ANY OF THESE PLANS.

AND SO YOU ALL THE JUDGE IS GOING TO HAVE TO LEAD THE EFFORT TO EDUCATE THIS COMMUNITY ABOUT YOUR PLANS.

I DO NOT SEE A LOT OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD INCORPORATED INTO EITHER THE JUDGE'S 18 MEMBER COMMITTEE OR THE TOWN HALLS THAT I HAD. AND I THINK THE CAB BOARD CAN HELP US GET SOME OF THAT INTEGRATED ON A MONTH TO MONTH, DAY TO DAY BASIS AND THE TIME THAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO IF WE'RE GOING TO, THE VOTERS HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL PASS KNOWING THAT POLLING ON THESE KINDS OF MEASURES IS LUKEWARM. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF THE FORT WORTH MODEL FROM.

I HAVEN'T VISITED, BUT JUST LOOKING ARCHITECTURALLY AT THE BUILDING IN THE SHOT THAT YOU JUST GAVE CODY.

ARE THOSE BUILDINGS LIKE BRICK AND MORTAR? YOU'RE REFERENCING THE PLAN THAT WE PROPOSED OR THE WHAT ARE YOU REFERENCING THE PLAN THAT WE PROPOSED OR REFERENCING FORT WORTH IN FORT WORTH? BRICK AND MORTAR? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO, YEAH, THIS THIS ONE HERE, THIS PHOTO HERE.

I FIGURED MOST OF THE STOCKYARD IS BRICK AND MORTAR.

KIND OF LOOKS PEARL ESQUE, IF YOU WILL. IT'S A TOWN HALL, TOWN SQUARE KIND OF LOOKING VENUE.

CORRECT. OUTSIDE OF THE COLISEUM, THE COWTOWN COLISEUM IS ALMOST A REPLICA OF THE COLISEUM.

OKAY. YES, SIR. EVERYTHING AROUND IT DOES HAVE THAT.

THE BRICK AND MORTAR THEY'VE DEVELOPED AROUND IT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED WHILE HERE IS THAT WE'VE SPENT ABOUT $300 MILLION ON THE COLISEUM, THE FROST BANK CENTER, THE EXPO HALLS. OVER THE TIME THAT WE'VE STARTED THE FROST BANK CENTER, WE'VE INVESTED ABOUT 300 MILLION. THE REASON I SAID I LEARNED THAT WHILE I'M HERE AT THE COUNTY IS BECAUSE I, LIKE MOST RESIDENTS, DON'T LOOK AT IT AND THINK THAT THAT WE'VE SPENT THAT MUCH MONEY.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE SUCCESS HALLMARKS OF VISITORS TO THE STOCKYARDS IS THE ARCHITECTURE.

PEOPLE WILL GO TO PLACES THAT ARE ARCHITECTURALLY INTERESTING.

THEY BECOME DESTINATIONS WHERE WE FALL SHORT IS ON THE METAL SHED EXPO HALL LOOK LESS ARCHITECTURALLY APPEALING, NOT A PLACE PEOPLE COME FOR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW.

THEY JUST COME AND THEY GO. AND SO I SAY THAT TO THE COURT, JUST AS A MATTER OF COMMON SENSE, THAT AS WE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP OUT ADDITIONS TO THE THE COLISEUM EXPO, IF WE EXPECT TO HAVE SYNERGY OF PEOPLE, CIRCULATION OF PEOPLE, WE'VE GOT TO CREATE SOME ARCHITECTURALLY INTERESTING PLACES THAT PEOPLE WANT TO STAY, MEANDER, SPEND MONEY, HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN EVENT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF WE CAN.

I WOULD SAY WE ARE AT A KIND OF A MIDPOINT IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR PLAN.

I MEAN, YOUNG PEOPLE SAY IT'S MID, BUT I THINK WE CAN REFINE IT.

AND I THINK THERE ARE ALSO SOME THINGS THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT WE CAN HANDLE OUTSIDE OF THIS TOTAL.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES ARE PART OF IT, BUT YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE COMMENTS ABOUT CONES, IT WOULD BE, I THINK WISE, EITHER FOR THE COUNTY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET OR THE COLISEUM, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT GETTING THAT BRIDGE ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE AND CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THIS BUDGET, WE CAN WE CAN MOVE ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROMISE OF NOT HAVING FOLKS CONED IN AND OUT OF THE ARENA GROUNDS.

I THINK THAT PART OF THE STARTING POINT CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE ECONOMIC GARDENING.

WHAT? YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF OUR ARENAS, OUR COMMUNITY ARENAS, WE CAN LOOK AT A COUPLE OF FACTS.

WHEN THE DALLAS CHAPARRALS BECAME THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS, THEY BARELY HAD THE MONEY FOR THE PLANE TO GET THE PLAYERS TO SAN ANTONIO.

IT WAS PROBABLY A MIRACLE. NOW THE SPURS ARE WORTH $3.8 BILLION.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 330 ECONOMIC IMPACT FROM THE STOCK SHOW AND RODEO AND THE GROWTH OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR MORE DAYS, THE ECONOMIC GARDENING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BEYOND JUST THE HIRING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH WE APPRECIATE,

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AND I THINK RENEE WATSON'S DEPARTMENT CAN HELP US.

I CERTAINLY WOULD BE OF SERVICE TO HELP, BUT WE'VE GOT TO COME OUT WITH A COMMUNITY AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDES COMMUNITY RESTAURATEURS, BARS, ETC. AS PART OF THAT $330 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT IN THAT GROWTH.

SO I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO AND I'LL HELP YOU GET THERE.

BUT IF THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO PASS, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL OF US ACCOUNTABLE FOR.

AND I SAY THAT FOR AN IMPORTANT. NEXT PAGE TURNER.

CODY, YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN A PAGE TURNER FOR THE FOR THE RODEO, BUT THERE'S STILL 74 YEAR OLD FOLKS WHO COME TO THAT DAIS.

AND EVERY ONE OF US ON COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS BEEN HERE TO HEAR IT.

AND THEY WILL SAY TO US, AS A COMMISSIONERS COURT, I HAVE NEVER I'M 74 YEARS OLD, AND I'VE NEVER GONE TO THE RODEO BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL THERE'S ANYTHING FOR ME. AND SO IN THE THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT, WE CAN HELP YOU TURN ANOTHER PAGE SO THAT THAT ISN'T SAID ANYMORE SO THAT THERE IS TRULY ECONOMIC INCLUSION.

THE OTHER THING I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING TO SEE IS ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE HIRING PROGRAMS. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A RAMP UP OF TRADES.

A LOT OF YOUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS AND BUSINESS, AND THEY'VE CONTRIBUTED WITH THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, GOODWILL TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A LOT OF THE FACILITIES ON THE COUNTY GROUNDS.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DEEPEN OUR OUR TRADE PARTNERSHIPS IN THE CENSUS TRACKS, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE COLISEUM AND THE FROST BANK CENTER GROUNDS.

WHEN I TALK IN THIS COMMUNITY ABOUT WHEN WE BUILD THINGS IN YOUR COMMUNITY, WE OUGHT TO HIRE PEOPLE FROM YOUR COMMUNITY.

EVERY TIME I GET A ROUND OF APPLAUSE WHEN I'M IN THOSE ROOMS. AND I KNOW YOU ALL WILL, TOO, IF WE WORK TOGETHER TO DO THOSE BOTH JOB FAIRS, TO SAY THESE ARE THE KINDS OF JOBS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING.

YOU KNOW, FORECAST PEOPLE PLENTY OF TIME IN ADVANCE SO THEY CAN KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

BUT ALSO GETTING WITH ALL OF THE WORKFORCE GROUPS, ALL OF THE EDUCATIONAL, TRADE, SCHOOLS, ETC. AND LET'S GET THEM PARTNERED WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION COMMUNITY AND GET THEM READY BECAUSE WE HAVE A RAMP UP TIME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE YEARS TO RAMP THIS UP, BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A DETAILED PLAN OF WHO'S INVOLVED AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND I'D LIKE TO EVEN SEE THE UNIONS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, LIKE THE PLUMBERS AND PIPEFITTERS WHO ARE IN WILLOW WOODS ON BELGIUM LANE, RIGHT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE FROM THE COLISEUM GROUNDS.

I THINK THAT THERE IS THE CONSTERNATION THAT I HAVE FROM COMMUNITY FEEDBACK DOES ONE OF THE BIGGEST POINTS OF CONSTERNATION IS THE PHYSICAL LOOK OF THE COLISEUM.

IT IS TIME FOR AN UPGRADE. WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMUNITY WILL FEEL THAT ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS AND STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS DID NOT ACHIEVE THE ESTHETIC BEAUTY THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT THE FACADE OF THE, OF THE COLISEUM SHOULD HAVE A MAJOR RENOVATION, MUCH LIKE WE DID THE TOBIN. THERE ARE STILL INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS, BOND DOLLARS THERE THAT WE CAN ACCESS.

AND THE FINAL POINT I'LL SAY IS THERE IS A RISK FOR THE COUNTY WITH RESPECT TO AN ELECTION FOR COMMUNITY VENUES WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY VENUES, PLURAL, BEYOND OUR OWN BEING ON THE BALLOT.

WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH FUNDS THAT ARE SITTING THERE THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ARE ACCESS TO GO TO MCALLISTER PARK AND DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS, GO TO THE RIVER, GO TO THE WHEATLEY SPORTS COMPLEX, GO TO THE SOUTHEAST SKYLINE, GO TO MISSION COUNTY PARK, ETC.. THERE ARE SOME DOLLARS WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO CARRYING THIS THING OVER THE FINISH LINE IN TERMS OF AN ELECTION WHERE EVERYONE CAN FEEL A WIN WIN. SO I WANT TO JUST I WANT TO JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH.

PAST IS PROLOG. IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHATABURGER THAT WE HAD AT THE FROST BANK CENTER, WHICH WE WERE, PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO LIVED CLOSE BY WERE EXCITED THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A, YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO GO TO WHATABURGER.

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CORRECT DURING COVID. OKAY. AND IT NEVER REOPENED.

CORRECT. OKAY. BECAUSE THE BUSINESS WASN'T THERE.

AND EVEN THOUGH MOST PEOPLE LOVE WHATABURGER, IT'S OUR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT LESSON FOR ECONOMIC CONNECTION IN THE COMMUNITY.

I SAY IT'S A CANARY IN THE COAL MINE OF CONNECTION.

IF WE DON'T REALLY WORK ON THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS.

THESE ENTERPRISES WITH ALL OF OUR WELL WISHES CAN FAIL.

AND SO I THINK THAT THE DEEPENING THAT WE HAVE OF SPECIAL MISSIONS THAT WE MUST COMPLETE, THAT WE DIDN'T DO ON THE FROST BANK CENTER, I'LL GIVE YOU A FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU GO TO THE AMERICAN AIRLINES ARENA, IT'S LOCAL BREWERIES THAT ARE PROVIDING YOUR BEER.

IT'S NOT BUD LIGHT. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S LOCAL.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE COLISEUM TO HELP THOSE STRUGGLING BREWERIES BY MAKING THEM THE COUNTY'S PREFERRED VENDOR.

THE RODEO'S PREFERRED VENDOR. THOSE DISTILLERIES THAT HAVE BEEN GOING OUT OF BUSINESS. ALL OF THOSE ENTITIES HAVE A.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS.

THE SPURS, THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS TO OPERATE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR CORPORATE BOTTOM LINE.

BUT BUT THE COUNTY'S OWNERSHIP OF THESE VENUES CAN OPEN UP OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT WHOLE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS A BUSINESS INCUBATOR, AS A BUSINESS ACCELERATOR FOR BREWERIES, FOR BARBECUE PLACES, FOR DISTILLERIES, ETC.

AND THOSE ARE THE COMPONENTS THAT I THINK WILL GATHER A LOT OF FOLKS WHO, WHO, WHO WANT TO BE THERE.

AND I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE, THE BUNDLING ON THE CONSTRUCTION OPPORTUNITIES, THE ARCHITECTURE, THE ENGINEERING. I'VE NEVER MET WITH GENSLER, WHO HAS DONE THESE DRAWINGS AS A COMMISSIONER FOR THE AREA ON THESE THINGS.

THAT'S DISAPPOINTING TO ME. I'M SURE IT'LL BE DISAPPOINTING TO A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS AS WELL.

WE NEED TO HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOURS OF COMMUNITY INPUT DON'T TURN INTO WHAT PEOPLE SAY NOW IS STAKEHOLDER ABUSE. YOU ASK ME TO COME OUT TO A MEETING, YOU ASK ME TO GIVE YOU MY OPINION, AND THEN YOU DO WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO ANYWAY.

SO THIS IS A THIS IS A GOOD DAY. THIS IS A IMPORTANT BRIEFING BECAUSE I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MOTION. I'M NOT SURE, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE MOTION.

I NEED TO READ THE MOTION. I HOPE SOMEONE CAN GIVE ME A COPY OF THAT MOTION. I'M NOT SURE HOW I SHOULD VOTE, WHERE I SHOULD VOTE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT PRINTED IN THE AGENDA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, I'LL CLOSE MY COMMENTS ON THAT.

I THINK IT'S A REALITY CHECK JUST IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHERE THEY'LL STAND.

I'M PRETTY CERTAIN THEY'RE NOT TOO FAR OFF FROM WHAT MY COMMENTS ARE TODAY.

THANK YOU. JUDGE, JUDGE, IF. THANK YOU. JUDGE.

CODY. DEREK, THANK YOU FOR THE THE OVERVIEW. I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANCE TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THIS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO ASK A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS RELATED TO DETAILS BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A KIND OF HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTUAL WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND POINT OUT BECAUSE THIS ACTION ITEM IS ESSENTIALLY A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD I GUESS, IN A SENSE, JUDGE START THE CLOCK, SO TO SPEAK, IF WE ARE GOING TO CALL A NOVEMBER ELECTION.

AND SO THE I THINK THE MOTION WAS TO PUT FORWARD THE RESOLUTION, HAVE IT SENT TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE SO THAT THAT CLOCK STARTS TICKING. AND THEN THERE'S STILL SOME OTHER IMPORTANT, I GUESS, LANDMARKS ALONG THE WAY.

ONCE THAT IS REVIEWED BY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE WE STILL HAVE, UNTIL, I THINK, MID-AUGUST TO CALL AN ELECTION.

SO. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, DAVID, TO CHIME IN ON THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY.

WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS TELLING ME TO WORK WITH YOUR LAWYERS AND TEAM TO COME UP WITH THE LANGUAGE FOR A RESOLUTION, WHICH SHOULD LOOK SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU READ.

THAT WOULD THEN BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU AT AS EARLY AS YOUR JUNE 10TH MEETING.

AND IF YOU APPROVE IT, THAT RESOLUTION WOULD THEN GO TO THE COMPTROLLER.

AND THAT STARTS THAT STARTS THE CLOCK. SO SO THIS IS AGAIN GIVING YOU DIRECTION TO WORK WITH THE LAWYERS TO DRAFT THE RESOLUTION.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS FOR A LOT OF THE PUBLIC THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE SEEN THIS, THIS TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO DIGEST. I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN FOR MOVING FORWARD.

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YOU KNOW, THE SPURS ARE LOOKING TO POTENTIAL NEW ARENA MAYBE DOWNTOWN.

WE AS RESPONSIBLE OWNERS OF THAT FACILITY, BOTH FACILITIES NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VIABLE GOING FORWARD.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE RODEO AS A PARTNER COMES IN.

DEREK AND THE CAB. YOUR CONTINUED WORK IN MAKING SURE IT'S THRIVING THERE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. AND SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF, OF MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION HOPEFULLY IN A BROADER CONTEXT.

I GUESS LET ME ASK YOU, DAVID, AGAIN, SINCE YOU CHIMED IN, ULTIMATELY, WHEN THIS COMES BACK, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE VENUE TAX PROCEEDS LOOK LIKE.

AND I THINK IT'S BEEN ALREADY MENTIONED SOMEWHERE AROUND 400 OR 450 MILLION IS OUR IS OUR CAPACITY GOING TO VOTERS? IS THAT ACCURATE? CORRECT. OKAY. WELL THERE THERE IS SOME EXISTING CASH.

NOT QUITE AS MUCH AS YOU THINK, BOBBY, BUT THERE IS SOME EXISTING CASH THAT WOULD BE FACTORED INTO THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL.

ALL THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY, I'LL TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT I THINK YOU'LL SEE IN TERMS OF RESOLUTION, LANGUAGE, AND HOW I BELIEVE THAT WILL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO ACTUALLY HAVE THESE DETAILED DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN ALL THE PARTIES.

OKAY. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST ROUGHLY SAY 200 MILLION HERE, BUT THERE IS OTHER CAPACITY THERE THAT THIS COURT WILL HAVE TO DECIDE.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE VOTERS WILL HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY, INVESTING DOLLARS INTO THE FACILITIES, WHETHER IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OR WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN.

SO SO I JUST WANTED TO TO KIND OF RESET THAT DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION TODAY ABOUT WHAT TO DO, BUT I THINK WE'RE WE'RE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION OF FIGURING OUT THE BEST WAY TO INVEST THESE, THESE TOURIST DOLLARS. SO CODY. I'VE NOT BEEN UP TO FORT WORTH.

I'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT THAT. I KNOW WE KEEP REFERRING TO THAT AS KIND OF ONE THAT POTENTIALLY WE COULD DRAW INTEREST FROM.

I AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT THAT WE ARE THE GATEWAY TO SOUTH TEXAS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

AND NOT JUST SOUTH TEXAS, BUT SOUTH OF THE BORDER.

AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOME OF THOSE EVENTS AND THE DOLLARS THAT COME IN FROM THOSE EVENTS.

SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL IN THAT REGARD AS WELL.

I HAVE VISITED SOUTH POINT, BY THE WAY, AND THAT'S AN AMAZING FACILITY.

AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING LIKE A CASINO SLASH ARENA, BUT BUT IT IS IN TERMS OF FUNCTIONALITY WHEN I WAS THERE, IT WAS NOT JUST A RODEO GOING ON, BUT THEY HAD, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS A BOWLING INTERNATIONAL BOWLING COMPETITION.

I MEAN, ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF? PICKLEBALL.

THAT BRINGS FOLKS FROM ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST COUNTRY, BUT ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THOSE ARE THE KIND OF EVENTS I WOULD I WOULD IMAGINE, DEREK, THAT YOU'RE ALSO THINKING THROUGH IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL USAGE.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES REFERRED TO THE CONCERT THAT SHE WENT TO.

I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THERE, BUT IF IT. BUT IF IT WAS MILLI VANILLI, I WAS NOT THERE.

WAS IT THAT ONE? IT WAS MILLI VANILLI. I LIKE THEIR HAIR. ALL RIGHT.

BUT BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY AT THE FREEMAN.

I KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, AND THE CAB BOARD HAS YOU KNOW, I AGREE THAT THAT IN TERMS OF THE ITEMIZED BREAKDOWN I ONLY SAW, I GUESS IT WAS FOR THE THE ROOF, THE UPGRADES TO THE FREEMAN.

IF THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO KIND OF YOU KNOW, BRING IT INTO A LITTLE BIT BETTER LIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY, I THINK I WOULD CERTAINLY BE FOR THAT AS WELL.

BUT AGAIN, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING FORWARD. I THINK IT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE TO NOW MOVE IN PRETTY, PRETTY QUICK, ORDER INTO THE PUBLIC SPHERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET INPUT, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, THIS COURT'S NOT DECIDING THIS. IT IS THE PUBLIC THAT'S GOING TO VOTE ON THIS.

AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE BUY IN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PARTNERS IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME AND SHARING IT WITH ME EARLIER IN THE WEEK, LAST WEEK. SO. I THINK THERE'S A FEW THINGS WE TALKED

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AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS MOTION BECAUSE I THINK THIS MOTION IS WAY TOO SPECIFIC AND PREMATURE IN MY OPINION.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO COME BACK TO COURT AND GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WHICH YOU HAVE PROVIDED FROM FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO WITH REGARD TO UPDATED NUMBERS AROUND THE VENUE TAX PROJECTIONS. WITH THE 1.75 AND 2.0 UPDATES ON THE CASH BALANCES, UPDATES ON THE CASH FLOWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT CAME WITH THAT. I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THAT DISCUSSION HERE TODAY.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE JUMPED INTO A MOTION THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC.

THAT WRAPS ALL OF THIS INTO ONE WITHOUT THAT ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

SURPRISE. ANYWAY IF I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENTATION HERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE RODEO, I'VE APPRECIATED GETTING TO GO WITH YOUR TEAM UP TO FORT WORTH AND SEE THE STOCKYARDS.

I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO REINVEST HERE. IT'S A NICHE FOR SAN ANTONIO AND REGIONALLY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AS FAR AS A MARKET. AND THERE'S REALLY THIS INCOME GENERATING POTENTIAL WITH, WITH THIS EXPANSION.

NOW, I SAY POTENTIAL BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE WE REALIZE THAT POTENTIAL.

AND THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO ANOTHER POINT, RIGHT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK IN TERMS OF THE RENEGOTIATION CONTRACTS WITH THE RODEO AND WITH THE SPURS GOING FORWARD, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS NOT PART OF ANY MOTION HERE TODAY, WHICH AGAIN, COMPLICATES THINGS IN MY OPINION. SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN TERMS OF INFORMATION. FORMATION.

AND THIS IS A BIG PIECE THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON.

AND AND I'M GLAD WE HAVE IT NOW TO TO INCORPORATE INTO THE DISCUSSION.

I WAS GOING TO TO BE FINE WITH DIRECTING STAFF TO PROVIDE US MORE OPTIONS AND COME BACK TO COURT.

BUT I'M NOT NOT OKAY WITH THE SPECIFICS AND VERY DIRECTED RECOMMENDED MOTION THAT THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON THE TABLE HERE.

SO I MEAN, I COULD MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS, INCLUDING THE 1.75% VENUE TAX AND DIRECTING STAFF TO PROVIDE THE UPDATED NUMBERS FOR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WITHIN THE VENUE TAX AND DIFFERENT ESTIMATES ON THE SCENARIO BASED ON THE DATE OF THE SPURS DEPARTURE FROM THE FROST BANK CENTER.

SINCE I MADE THE MOTION, CAN I COMMENT? HOLD ON, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ARE YOU YIELDING THE FLOOR? THAT. I'M OFFERING THAT AS AN AMENDMENT.

YEAH. OKAY. HOLD ON. LARRY. POINT OF ORDER. HE'LL NEED A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION TO. SO WHAT? LARRY. PURPOSES. POINT OF ORDER. WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR? COMMISSIONER MADE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION.

IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR WHAT SPECIFICALLY HE WANTS.

I MEAN, HE MAY HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT, BUT HE ALSO RECEIVED A SECOND.

SO THAT AMENDMENT WILL NEED TO BE VOTED ON. I'LL SUSTAIN THE POINT OF ORDER, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

PLEASE SPECIFY WHAT YOUR MOTION AMENDED MOTION IS FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY. I IT'S THIRD OR FOURTH. IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME.

WELL, I WASN'T EXACTLY CLEAR WHAT THE RECOMMENDED MOTION EITHER, BUT OKAY.

HOLD ON. LET'S. COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

SO. MY AMENDMENT WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO EVALUATE AND PROVIDE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. TO THIS COURT TO INCLUDE THE 1.75% CURRENT EXISTING TAX RATE ON THE VENUE TAX. AS WELL AS PROVIDING THE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE FUNDS WOULD GENERATE IN TERMS OF A 1.75 OR 2.0 VENUE TAX RATE, AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING THE THE MIX OF THAT FINANCING AND POTENTIAL.

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SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION TODAY, THEN I WOULD DIRECT STAFF IN THIS MOTION TO PROVIDE THAT BACK TO US, RATHER THAN BEING VERY DECLARATIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR PATH FORWARD IS, WHICH IS WHAT I SEE THE CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR AS BEING.

ALL RIGHT. SO, LARRY, WHAT'S THE MOTION? THE IS THERE ENOUGH CLARITY THERE FOR YOU? ARE YOU ARE YOU ARE YOU SAYING BASICALLY YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE THE OPTIONS OF NUMBERS FOR THE VARIOUS INCOME THAT WOULD COME IN AT THE NEXT MEETING? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

LET ME YIELD TO COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. THERE'S A MOTION, A SECOND ON AN AMENDED MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER MOODY HAS PUT ON RECORD, COMMISSIONER. YEAH. SO I JUST HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR MONTHS, AND I DON'T RECALL WHEN, BUT I KNOW WE GOT A LITTLE GRAPH OF HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD BE YIELDED IF WE KEPT IT AT THE CURRENT RATE AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD GO IF WE RAISED THE VENUE TAX, VISITOR TAX, NOT TAXING OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS.

BECAUSE, COMMISSIONER MOODY, I REMEMBER YOU SAYING AT THE TIME THAT YOU WANTED TO KEEP IT CURRENT. YOU EVEN SAID IT THEN.

SO THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS IS CONSIDERED A SURPRISE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE TIME FRAME THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT, NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO IT, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES.

SO WE ARE IN A CRUNCH TIME HERE. SO WE NEED IT NEEDS TO PASS TODAY.

THE AGENDA IS POSTED. PEOPLE SEE WHAT THE AGENDA IS.

IT'S IT SAYS. DISCUSSION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN ACTION. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET IN OUR AGENDA REVIEW WITH DAVID SMITH.

YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH CODY AND DEREK TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS, TO SEE A PREVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO IT WASN'T A SLIDE. IT WASN'T A SURPRISE FOR ME.

SO I MADE THE MOTION, AND I GUESS LARRY CAN LET US KNOW WHEN WE CAN VOTE ON THAT.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT RULING, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. JUDGE, LET ME LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET SOMETHING COMPROMISE ACCOMPLISHED HERE. SO THE THE DIRECTION TO STAFF TODAY WAS TO BRING BACK THE RESOLUTION WITH THOSE ITEMIZED DEALING DEAL POINTS. I'M NOT AGAINST WHAT COMMISSIONER MOODY IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

I THINK HE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THESE OTHER OPTIONS MIGHT BE.

IF WE DON'T DO THE 2%, WE KEEP IT AT 1.75. I MEAN, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD BACKGROUND INFORMATION TO HAVE ULTIMATELY, WE WON'T VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION THAT GOES TO THE COMPTROLLER UNTIL WE SEE A FINAL VERSION.

AND MAJORITY OF THE COURT AGREES ON IT. SO, I MEAN, COULD WE NOT JUST DIRECT STAFF SEPARATELY FROM THIS MOTION TO GIVE US THOSE NUMBERS AGAIN, IF WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM? WHAT THE VENUE TAX CAPACITY WOULD BE IF WE DO IT AT 1.75 JUST JUST SO THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT HAVE THAT AS A REFRESHER, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REQUIRES AN AMENDMENT TO THIS PARTICULAR MOTION.

YOU HAVE IT NOW, DAVID. THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.

YEAH. 1.75 USING A SENIOR AND JUNIOR LEAGUE STRUCTURE AS I PRESENTED.

WHAT WAS IT SIX WEEKS AGO? RIGHT. YIELDS 390 MILLION APPROXIMATELY.

IF YOU RAISE IT TO TWO WITH THE SAME JUNIOR AND SENIOR LEAGUE LEAN STRUCTURE, THAT RAISES IT TO APPROXIMATELY 450 MILLION WITH CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH IS ISSUED ON WHAT DATES, WHICH WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AT THAT MEETING, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH WE HAD PLANNED TO ISSUE IN 2028.

OKAY. AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE US FORWARD.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, I KNOW YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK SOME OF THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY SIMPLY ASKING DAVID, WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT THE COURT ALSO HAVE THIS OTHER INFORMATION IN WRITING.

COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL, I THINK THAT COULD ALSO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY ACCEPTING MY AMENDMENT.

OR IF WE JUST WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO DIRECTIVE WITH THE INITIAL MOTION.

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DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR TIMELINE WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPURS AND WHAT ALL THESE DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND, AND SITUATIONS WOULD PLAY OUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE VENUE TAX AND, AND THERE'S A LOT THERE.

RIGHT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT CAN BE UNPACKED WITH, WITH THIS VERY CLEAR SPECIFIC MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DID NOT REALIZE THAT THAT WAS THE, THE PLAN TO TO BE THAT DIRECTIVE AND, AND SPECIFIC. SO I'M GOING TO STAND BY MY AMENDMENT, JUDGE, JUST FOR THE CLARITY OF THE THE MINUTES.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE MOTION RELATES TO THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION AND HOW IT AMENDS THE RESOLUTION LANGUAGE.

IT SEEMS NOT TO BE GERMANE TO THE RESOLUTION.

IT'S SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE RESOLUTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BETWEEN STAFF.

IF DAVID UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE COMMISSIONER IS ASKING FOR, IT DOESN'T RELATE TO THE RESOLUTION.

AND SO, FOR THE CLARITY OF THE MINUTES, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT RELATES TO THE RESOLUTION ITSELF.

ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO CLEAR THIS UP RIGHT NOW.

I'M CALLING FOR A VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER MOODY HAS PUT ON THE RECORD AND HIS CLARIFICATION FOR PURPOSES OF SPEAKING TO THE RECORD, NOTWITHSTANDING MR. LARRY ROBERTSON'S QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE AMENDED MOTION MEANS.

SO I WILL ASK THE COURT TO VOTE AT THIS TIME.

CAN WE FINISH A COUPLE QUESTIONS? SURE. IF YOU IF IT CAN CLARIFY THE AMENDED MOTION.

THE AMENDED MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR. WE WILL VOTE ON THAT.

DEPENDING ON THAT, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD OR WE WILL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES HAS ON THE FLOOR.

THAT IS CORRECT. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO LET'S HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ON THE AMENDED MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS RELATED TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS IN THE MOTION.

SO MAYBE DEREK OR DAVID, CAN YOU CLARIFY, DID GENSLER GO THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS FOR THIS? YES. THROUGH WHO? THROUGH THE COWBOY. CAN YOU JUST.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU. THROUGH WHO? THROUGH THE COWBOY.

OKAY. SO THE CAB BOARD ISSUED A RFP. DID THE COURT.

DID WE AUTHORIZE. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK AND.

DID WE AUTHORIZE THAT OR JUST THROUGH CAP? IT WAS.

IT WAS NOT AUTHORIZED. BUT THE DIRECTIVE WAS FOR CODY AND I TO GO FIGURE OUT THE FUTURE FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND SO TAKING THAT MESSAGE BACK, WE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW SEARCH AND WE LANDED ON GONZALES.

IF YOU'RE A MEMBER THE FIRST TIME YOU AND I VISITED ABOUT GENSLER BEING SELECTED AS ARCHITECT FOR THE FOR THE MASTER MASTER PLANNING PROJECT IS WHEN WE DID, I SHOWED YOU THE FREEMAN REVIEW, WHICH I'M SORRY, WHEN WE DID THE FREEMAN REVIEW, WHEN I SHOWED YOU THE FREEMAN REVIEW, WHICH YOU FOUND TO BE, YOU KNOW, LACKING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IN, IN WHAT YOU WOULD THINK WOULD BE THE TYPE OF LIFT THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE THERE FROM FROM THERE, THE NEXT STEP WAS THE BALANCE OF THE BUILDINGS GOING FORWARD.

AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WAS THIS WASN'T A SOLE SOURCE.

THERE WERE OTHER APPLICANTS. RIGHT. YES. CORRECT.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK. OKAY. LET ME JUDGE.

JUST FOR THE SAKE OF UNDERSTANDING. ENDING. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, EXPLORING THE 2%.

I KNOW WE WANT SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE, AND ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE UP TO THE VOTERS TO DECIDE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. I WAS I'VE NEVER BEEN AGAINST GIVING THE VOTERS THE OPTION ABOUT WHETHER THEY GO TO A 2%.

I CALLED FLOYD WILSON, WHO I THINK IS CO-CHAIR OF THE 80 MEMBER COMMITTEE, AND I ASKED HIM IF THEY HAD THIS PLAN.

CODY AND DERRICK, WAS THIS PRESENTED TO THE 18 MEMBER COMMITTEE? NO, SIR. I MEAN, OUR PROCESS AND THIS IS ALL ALONG IS NOT TO PRESENT ANYTHING TO ANY EXTERIOR BODY PRIOR TO PRESENTING TO YOU.

AND SO WE WANTED TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

AND AGAIN, I THINK TO SOME DEGREE, NOT ANY OF OUR FAULTS, JUST THE TIMING OF THE PROCESS OF GETTING THIS OUT, GETTING THIS IN FRONT OF YOU. AND AS HAS BEEN KIND OF COMPLICATED BY OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE.

BACKING INTO THIS, TODAY WAS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU ALL TO SHARE THESE THOUGHTS.

NOW, I KNOW WE HAD SOME IN A PUBLIC MANNER, A BROADER PUBLIC MANNER.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE ONE ON ONES. YEAH.

SO TO COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES POINT, WE ARE NOT QUITE AT THE EVEN CLOSE TO THE DROP DEAD FOR THIS.

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I WOULD HAVE HOPED THAT WE, AT LEAST BY WAY OF PROCESS, RAN THIS THROUGH AT LEAST THAT COMMITTEE OR SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, TOWN HALLS. IT JUST SEEMS SORT OF BACKWARDS.

BUT JUST TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK, IT MAKES ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, AS THEIR AS THE PEOPLE, AS THE REPRESENTATIVE, THAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GIVE ME FEEDBACK ON, ON ON THE PLAN.

AND IT PUTS ME IN A VERY WEIRD POSITION BECAUSE I WANT TO MOVE THIS STUFF FORWARD.

BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS NOT REALLY BEEN ENOUGH TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY BACK AND FORTH.

THAT'S BEEN A CONSISTENT REFRAIN ON THESE BIG TICKET ITEMS. AND I THOUGHT WE WERE I MEAN, LIKE COMMISSIONER MOODY I, I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

BUT IN ANY EVENT IT I JUST WANT THE COURT AND THE RODEO AND THE CAB BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A BIT CHAOTIC.

YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IN THE PAST, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ASKED FOR THEIR INPUT, AND THEY WERE ASKED FOR THEIR COMMUNITY PEOPLE, AND THEY APPOINTED PEOPLE. AND IT WAS A MUCH MORE INCLUSIVE PROCESS.

THIS IS GOOD IN TERMS OF A BRIEFING, BUT I JUST DIDN'T THINK WE WERE QUITE READY.

I JUST WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THE PROCESS TO BE.

BUT IT FEELS LIKE FOLKS KNEW WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.

THEY ALWAYS HAD A PLAN OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.

THE COMMUNITY INPUT DIDN'T REALLY MATTER, AND SO WE'RE PRESENTING WHAT WE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO.

AND, YOU KNOW, EXPLAIN TO ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK I'LL BE THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES IT THAT WAY.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, I'LL BE QUIET. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH THIS. I VERY MUCH INTENDED TO TO COME IN HERE, HAVE A GREAT DISCUSSION.

AND IF THERE WAS DIRECTION FOR FOR COUNTY STAFF TO PROVIDE THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SUPPORT THIS IDEA.

I FEEL THAT BASED ON THIS VERY DETAILED MOTION, THAT WE ARE MAKING A PREMATURE DECISION WITHOUT HAVING ALL THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND DATA IN FRONT OF US. WHICH IS WHY I'M ATTEMPTING TO AMEND THE MOTION.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT. BUT WAS WAS SURPRISED BY HOW THIS PLAYED OUT HERE, BUT FULLY SUPPORT THE RODEO.

AND I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE.

I THINK WE JUST GOT A LITTLE SIDETRACKED TODAY.

JUDGE, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY FOR THE PASSAGE OF THESE THINGS, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR US TO AT LEAST HAVE ONE REVIEW BY YOUR 18 MEMBER COMMITTEE OF THEIR THOUGHTS, AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COURT IN THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I WOULD ASK. OKAY. YEAH. IT JUST IT JUST JUST A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

LET'S GET TO THE VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, I'LL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

WE CAN VOTE, AND THEN I'LL COMMENT SO WE CAN GET ON WITH THE VOTE.

BUT I DO WANT TO COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. MR.. ROBERTSON.

SO THERE'S THE THE AMENDMENT. WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

YES. HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NO, NO. MOTION FAILS.

WE'RE BACK TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. MAY I COMMENT FIRST? YES, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, YOU HAVE. SO I JUST I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR, BASED ON WHAT I HEARD AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND, TO BE THROWING SHADE ON CAB, MEANING DERRICK AND CODY, BECAUSE WE HAVE APPOINTEES.

AND IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CAB, OUR APPOINTEES.

CINDY'S HERE AS MY APPOINTEE. IF I HEAR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

I CALL HER, I'LL CALL DERRICK. WE HAVE A WE APPOINT THE CAB BOARD.

SO IF OUR APPOINTEES AREN'T KEEPING US INFORMED, THEN THAT'S ON THEM.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CAB IS ITS OWN ENTITY.

THEY REPORT TO THE BOARD. THE BOARD RUNS THEM.

DERRICK REPORTS TO THEM. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO RUN ANYTHING BY US.

WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE MIGRANT CHILDREN.

THAT WAS A FEDERAL CONTRACT, MIGRANT CHILDREN THAT I SERVED DOING WORSHIP SERVICES FOR THEM THAT DIDN'T COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.

JUDGE WOLFF AND I SAID PUSH FORWARD. IT DIDN'T COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT BECAUSE IT'S RUN BY CAB.

AND JUST LIKE. THOSE APPOINTEES ARE APPOINTED BY US.

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IF YOU CALL THEM OR IF Y'ALL SET UP APPOINTMENTS AND IF YOU MAKE TIME IN YOUR CALENDAR.

SO I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT. CAN WE PROCEED WITH THE MOTION I MADE, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? THANK YOU. JUDGE. I JUST WANT TO I'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION TODAY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. THIS VOTE ON A STAFF DIRECTION IS DOES NOT HAVE FINALITY TO IT UNTIL STAFF COMES BACK WITH PROPOSED LANGUAGE.

I WOULD HOPE AT THAT POINT WE'D HAVE MAYBE SOME COMMUNITY INPUT, BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY, IS GIVING STAFF DIRECTION TO COME UP WITH PROPOSED LANGUAGE.

I THINK THINGS CAN CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, WHETHER IT'S A WEEK FROM NOW OR THREE WEEKS FROM NOW.

BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, IS TO MOVE FORWARD, GIVING STAFF DIRECTION WITH ASKING FOR PROPOSED LANGUAGE.

AND I'M COMFORTABLE MOVING THAT FORWARD TODAY.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODE. ALL RIGHT.

MY FINAL COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.

IF IT WASN'T CLEAR ALREADY, NO WAY IS ARE MY COMMENTS OR MY VOTE REFLECTIVE ON CAB OR RODEO IN TERMS OF YOUR PRESENTATION HERE TODAY AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE? UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S ABOUT PROCESS. IT'S ABOUT COMMUNICATION WITHIN COUNTY STAFF AND WITHIN THE COURT.

AND I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. I THINK THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN PROVIDING SERVICE FOR MIGRANT FAMILIES AND A $200 MILLION EXPENDITURE THAT WILL HAVE A 40 YEAR DIFFERENCE ON MY COMMUNITY AND THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

AND AND THAT IS REALLY THE ISSUE AT HAND. IT IS ALWAYS BEEN MY INTENT TO GET THE COMMUNITY TO A POINT OF SUPPORTING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COLISEUM GROUNDS.

I MEAN, IT'S VERY EASY FOR ME TO SIMPLY SAY YOU KNOW, IF THE JUDGE AND, AND CERTAIN COMMISSIONERS WANT A VOTE ON THIS PLAN, THEN I WILL GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO GO SELL THAT PLAN.

I, I DIDN'T HAVE THE COMMUNITY INPUT. LET ME JUST ASK IT THIS WAY.

ARE THERE THINGS IN THIS PLAN THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EITHER THE 18 MEMBER COMMITTEE, THE COUNTY JUDGE PUT TOGETHER, OR THE 400 PAGE REPORT THAT I PUT TOGETHER? WHAT IS WHAT IS IT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT IS IN THIS PLAN? FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, COMMISSIONER, SEVERAL THINGS IN THIS PLAN BAKED IN HOW WE UTILIZE THESE FACILITIES.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S TALKED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, OBVIOUSLY, IT'D BE REALLY HARD TO PUT A HOSPITAL ON THE SITE, BUT WE DO.

I'M HAVING I'M STILL HAVING A LITTLE PROBLEM HERE. A HOSPITAL ON THE SITE, BUT WE DO EVERY YEAR INTERACT WITH WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BOTH FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, BY DOING MASS CASUALTY EVENTS AND MASS CASUALTY SUPPORT EVENTS.

WE ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY ENGAGED IN MANY WAYS WITH THINGS LIKE JOB CREATION AND JOB FAIRS.

I MEAN, YOU ARE A TESTAMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COUNTY FOR BEING THE FIRST PERSON TO BRING ON A SECOND CHANCE JOB FAIR.

THAT THING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AMAZING TO ME. WE DO LOTS OF THINGS IN THESE SPACES THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR ELDERLY COMMUNITY.

I HAVE TO GIVE GONZAGA HEALTH CARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A APPLAUD JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND.

THEY DO THIS DEAL WHERE THEY BRING OUT INDIVIDUALS WHO I WOULD SAY ARE IN THEIR LATER AGES AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING DURING THE DAY WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THINGS TO KIND OF RELATE BACK TO THEIR AGE, LIKE BEAT BOX.

THEY DO ONE DURING HALLOWEEN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN SPACES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS TALK ABOUT. A LOT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, CODY MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST WE'RE KIND OF AN ASPHALT JUNGLE WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO CREATE SPACES THAT ARE EASILY TRANSFERABLE.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING MORE PEOPLE OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. THERE WERE MANY THINGS MENTIONED AND TRUST ME, I DIDN'T READ THE WHOLE THING, BUT I CERTAINLY READ YOUR HIGHLIGHTS. AND SO THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT IN THESE FACILITIES, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT TODAY, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, SUPPORT AND ACTIVATE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

THIS IS THE PART ABOUT THE HOSPITAL. CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE HOSPITAL HERE? SO WE DO AN EVENT EVERY YEAR.

AND ACTUALLY IT'S ACTUALLY I THINK IT'S LIKE A TRI STATE THING.

SO THE STATES INVOLVED THE, THE, THE, THE CITIES INVOLVED AND THE COUNTY IS INVOLVED WHERE THERE'S BASICALLY A TRIAGE.

AND SO EFFECTIVELY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT EVERY YEAR THEY GO TO KIND OF A DIFFERENT ITERATION ON WHAT IF THERE WAS A MAJOR CASUALTY WITHIN OUR WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY,

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AND SO LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE DO WITH THE PROPERTY AND ON THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY HELP A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED WITHIN, WITHIN YOUR, WITHIN YOUR DEAL. I, I PERSONALLY THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES. IT IS WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT ART AND CODY AND I TALKED ABOUT ART WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF RECENTLY. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION HAS BEEN, WELL, IT'S BEEN FROM THE JUDGE OR FROM DAVID, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE WHAT CAN WE START DOING NOW VERSUS WHAT CAN WE DO LATER.

RIGHT. AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT THAT WE CAN START ENGAGING AND ACTIVATING WITH TODAY.

ART IS TRULY ONE OF THEM. I AM A BIG FAN AND AS YOU NOTICED, AND SO WAS SIDNEY GABEL ON MY BOARD.

I MEAN, AS YOU NOTICE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD DONE ON THE SITE, WE'VE GOT TWO MURALS DONE AND WE'VE GOT TWO STATUES, AND WE DID A LOCAL ART, ART ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND ALL THE ART IN THE COLISEUM IS ACTUALLY FROM LOCAL ARTISTS, WHICH IS ABOUT TEN YEARS OLD.

SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT RENEWING THAT. CODY AND HIS TEAM. THEY'RE CURRENTLY ACTIVATING MORE ART ALONG THE SIDES OF SOME OF OUR SOME OF OUR RAMP WALLS, AND THEY'RE DOING IT WITH KIDS, AGAIN, BRINGING THE COMMUNITY BACK IN.

AND SO TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO WITH BETTER FACILITIES.

WE WANT TO DO THOSE KID PROGRAMS. BUT WHEN I TALK ABOUT ART, IT'S ABOUT COMMISSIONING ARTISTS AND GIVING THEM A PAYCHECK TO DO THAT WORK.

IS THAT PART OF THIS PLAN? EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

JUDGE, LET ME ASK YOU, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY? ARE YOU PLANNING? LET ME. NOT AN OPPORTUNITY.

I SHOULD ASK THIS WAY. ARE YOU PLANNING TO BRING ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY RESTAURANTS OR VENDORS INTO THE VENUE SPACES? IS THAT THERE'S ALSO THE CHURCHES HAVE ASKED FOR THINGS LIKE MORE SCHOLARSHIP FUNDS. IS THAT PART OF YOUR PLAN? THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES, BUT COMMISSIONER CALVERT, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO ADMONISH THE COURT.

WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION WHETHER WE'RE MOVING FORWARD FOR THE REVITALIZATION, FOR THE UPGRADES OF OUR COUNTY FACILITIES.

WE'VE GOTTEN A REPORT TODAY FROM THE RODEO, FROM THE CAB, AS TO WHAT A SUSTAINABLE, VIABLE PLAN FOR OUR EASTSIDE SIDE COUNTY FACILITY. WE'VE JUST THAT'S ONE PART OF WHAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT TODAY.

WE'VE HAD CONTINUOUS CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT THE COUNTY VENUE TAX, WHICH IS A HOTEL OCCUPANCY AND RENTAL CAR TAX.

IT IS NOT A TAX ON THE HOMEOWNERS, AND THAT'S BEEN ONE OF MY STIPULATIONS.

ONE OF MY OTHER STIPULATIONS IS THAT WE WOULD MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO THE EAST SIDE.

AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY FACILITIES IS PART AND PARCEL OF THAT.

WHAT YOU'RE NOW BRINGING UP IS THE OTHER PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EAST SIDE.

AS IT PERTAINS AROUND THAT, I NEED THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY VENUE TAX IS STATUTORILY MANDATED, THAT IT CAN ONLY GO TO THE VENUE. I CAN'T SPEND IT ON ALL THE THINGS THE COMMUNITY FEELS THAT WE NEED, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THEM. WE NEED HOUSING, SMALL BUSINESSES, MAKING SURE THAT CONTRACTS GO TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN IN THE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.

I TOTALLY AGREE. WE'RE ALL WE'RE AT. BUT THIS CONVERSATION NOW HAS GONE TO REALLY A REFERENDUM.

DO WE JUST EVEN GO FORWARD OR OR NOT? AND WHAT I HAVE TRIED TO DO IN AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WAY IS GET THE NUMBERS OUT, SO TO SPEAK. WE WERE FIRST TO GET OUT WHAT THE COUNTY VENUE TAX, BOTH AT A 2% LEVEL, BOTH AT A 1.75.

SO IT SHOULD COME TO NO SURPRISE TO THIS COURT AS TO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

WE'VE ENGAGED. LET ME REMIND THE COURT THAT WE HAVE SIGNED OFF ON A NON-BINDING MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY,

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AND I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND THE DISCUSSION HAS REALLY GOTTEN INTO THE WEEDS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PERHAPS THERE WAS NOT AS MUCH ADVANCE NOTICE.

BUT UNDERSTAND THAT IN CONSULTATION WITH THE LAWYERS AND NOT ONLY WITH LARRY ROBERTSON, BUT WITH THE ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE BEEN RETAINED BY THE COUNTY THAT WE WILL ADDRESS IN ANOTHER MOTION. WE ARE UNDER THE GUN, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE OF THE TIME IN ORDER TO MEET AN ELECTION THIS FALL.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT THINGS PERHAPS FEEL THROWN UPON, BUT I WILL PUSH BACK ON ANYBODY WHO FEELS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN TRANSPARENT OR PUSHED BACK, THAT WE HAVE.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TO DO THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT, WHETHER IT'S TWO TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WHETHER IT'S EASTSIDE COUNCIL. SO I PUSHED BACK ON EVERYBODY SAID, WELL, HAVE YOU DONE THIS OR THAT? I DON'T DESERVE TO BE SECOND GUESSED AS A COUNTY JUDGE BECAUSE YOU GAVE ME THE AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE.

AND I THINK I'VE GOT THE BEST DEAL ON THE TABLE AT THIS TIME.

CAN IT BE BETTER? YES. DOES IT NEED MORE INPUT? YES. DO WE REALLY HAVE TO DRAW DOWN INTO THOSE FIGURES? AND CAN WE GET BY WITH NOT A TAX INCREASE OR NOT.

BUT WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT. WE ALSO MADE A SECOND MOU.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH THE COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD AND OUR OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND THAT WE WOULD DEAL WITH THE ROYALTY WITH THE SAN ANTONIO LIVESTOCK EXPOSITION SO THAT THEY CAN REALLY DEVELOP THE SUSTAINABLE, VIABLE PLAN YEAR ROUND. WE'VE GOT A HELL OF A PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO TODAY, AND I PUSH BACK ON THE NITPICKING OF, WELL, DID WE DO THIS OR WE DO THAT? AND DID EVERYBODY ACTUALLY GET NOTICE OF THIS? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M INSISTING THAT WE VOTE.

AND WITH THAT VOTE, WE DECIDE WHAT COUNTY STAFF CAN BE.

ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A ELECTION IN NOVEMBER? WE AIN'T THERE YET. WE STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE COMPTROLLER AND GET STATE APPROVAL.

HAVE WE REALLY RUN THE FINAL NUMBERS? NO WE HAVEN'T.

DO WE NEED A 1.75 TO 2.8% INCREASE ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY? THE TOURIST TAX? MAYBE WE DON'T. MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A DEAL WITH THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND THE SPURS.

I HAVE PUT OUT IN PUBLIC THAT THAT IS THE COMMITMENT OF THE COUNTY.

WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS ITS OWN AGENDA, AND THEY'VE GOT MANY OTHER PROJECTS TO THIS.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FULFILL THE PROMISE TO THE EAST SIDE THAT WE WOULD DO OUR VERY BEST.

I HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED ON THE FACT, AS I'VE EXPLAINED BEFORE, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE WILLOW SPRINGS GOLF COURSE TO COME FROM THE CITY TO THE COUNTY, SO THAT WE COULD PUT A MASTER DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO REALLY REMAKE THAT AREA TO A TOURIST DESTINATION, AN ECONOMIC GENERATOR. I HAVE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE THE GREATER SPRINGS TRAIL, THAT WE WOULD PUT A TRAIL THROUGH THE EAST SIDE, ENTIRE EAST SIDE FROM HAY STREET BRIDGE ALL THE WAY TO THE SALADO CREEK, AND COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SOUTH SIDE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TO THE ARBORETUM.

WE HAVE GAME CHANGING EVENTS THAT CAN HAPPEN IF WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND I APPRECIATE THE DEBATE. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'VE ALLOWED I'VE ALLOWED EVERYBODY TO HAVE THEIR SAY.

BUT AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING THE COURT TO DO TODAY.

SO WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION I'M ASKING FOR.

I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER. WELL, A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO THOMAS.

THOMAS, YOU POST THE AGENDA, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT, COMMISSIONER. WHEN DID YOU POST THIS? THE AGENDA FOR THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT LAST FRIDAY AROUND 330.

AND THAT'S OUR NORMAL CUSTOM OF DOING THAT RIGHT.

IT WAS A LITTLE EARLIER THIS GO AROUND BUT. YES MA'AM.

OKAY. SO ALONG WITH THE AGENDA ACFS ARE ALSO POSTED.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO ON THE ACF IS THE MOTION THAT I READ NOT PRINTED ON THE ACF.

THE MOTION WAS ON THAT AGENDA COORDINATION FORM.

THE MOTION I READ WAS PRINTED ON FRIDAY. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED US TO BE CLEAR. SECONDLY, I JUST ALSO WANT TO COMMEND THE RODEO FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO DO A SURVEY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU GUYS DID A COMMUNITY SURVEY.

[04:10:04]

THIS DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM, AS WELL AS DEREK AND CINDY, WHO'S MY APPOINTEE FOR THE CAB. READY TO VOTE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU GEORGE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THANK YOU. FOR THE LAST DECADE, I'VE BEEN EXTREMELY CONSTRUCTIVE IN MOVING OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT TRACK RECORD. I THINK MY COMMUNITY RECOGNIZES THE UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN IN EXISTENCE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WILL YOU KNOW, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT STOPPING.

THE, THE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD TODAY IS A CONVERSATION YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MOMENT YOU STEP OFF THIS DAIS.

IT'S NOT THAT CONVERSATION IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE ROBUST WHEN YOU LEAVE THIS COURTROOM.

SO I WOULDN'T TAKE ANY OFFENSE AND PUSH BACK ON IT AT ALL BECAUSE IT WILL BE THE CONVERSATION.

WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS WORK THROUGH THOSE THINGS BEFOREHAND BEFORE WE GET TO COURT.

AND SO THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THE CONSTITUENTS WE ALL REPRESENT WANT US TO ASK.

THERE'S NOTHING OUT OF BOUNDS ABOUT THAT. SO IN ANY EVENT I WILL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AS I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS PARTICULAR VENUE, COMMUNITY VENUE.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO PUT MORE COMMUNITY IN THAT VENUE A LOT MORE, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE IT OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS IN THE WAYS THAT WE CAN'T. AND I THINK I WAS SPECIFIC IN OUTLINING SOME OF THOSE RESTAURANTS, BREWERIES, CONSTRUCTION WORKFORCE THAT'S GOOD FOR THAT'S GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY. THAT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US.

IT'S GOOD FOR COMMUNITY RELATIONS. THAT'S GOOD FOR TURNING PAGES.

NOTHING. TO BE OFFENDED ABOUT IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE WITH US.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A CONVERSATION IN EVERY SINGLE PRECINCT BECAUSE I'M I HAVE FRIENDS IN EVERY SINGLE PRECINCT.

THAT'S A COUNTYWIDE CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENING ON ARENAS NATIONWIDE, ACTUALLY.

SO IN ANY EVENT, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS NOT BECAUSE I'M GUNG HO ABOUT EVERYTHING PRESENTED BY GENSLER, BUT BECAUSE IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON THE VISION LAID OUT.

AND I'M ALL FOR A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, BUT THIS WILL BE IN THE HANDS OF THE VOTERS NOW.

AND YOU WILL HAVE TO WORK TO GET THEM ON BOARD.

AND SO I WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ANYWAY. THE FOLKS WATCHING AT HOME, THEY THEY KNOW THEY KNOW THE CONSTRUCTIVE WORK I'VE PUT TOGETHER.

I DON'T NEED TO DEFEND MYSELF. IN ANY EVENT. THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR REMARKS AND THEIR OPINIONS.

IT'S IMPORTANT. AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

SOME PEOPLE CAN INTERPRET IT AS DISAGREEMENTS OR THEY DON'T GET ALONG.

NO. WE'RE MAKING IMPORTANT DECISIONS. AND I'M MAKING A DECISION WHAT I THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS ENTIRE COUNTY FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE MADE A PLEDGE TO DO SO.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, I'LL GIVE YOU A VERY BRIEF VOTE.

I'LL JUST SAY YOU KNOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT I DON'T FEEL I CAN SUPPORT THIS THIS MOTION AS AS IT WAS PRESENTED UNTIL I GET THE ADDITIONAL DATA THAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET TODAY.

BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DATA THAT YOU ALL HAVE PROVIDED.

I APPRECIATE IT, AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY WE GET THE DATA SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION BASED ON DATA.

ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

DO WE HAVE ANY CONFUSION ON WHAT THE MOTION IS?

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AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ALL THOSE ABSTENTIONS.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU DEREK. THANK YOU CODY.

WE'VE GOT MUCH, MUCH MORE WORK TO DO. IN LIGHT OF ALL THE COMMENTS AND INSTRUCTIONS AND DIRECTIONS AND FEEDBACK YOU'VE GOT TODAY, SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW YOU ARE.

AND YOU HAVE BEEN. THANK YOU. I'M ASKING FOR COURT'S PERMISSION.

I WANT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE THE BALANCE OF THE REST OF THE IS MOSTLY EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO I AM GOING TO CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS TIME, TAKE A BRIEF, BRIEF BREAK AND THEN ASK THE COURT TO COME BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE WILL CONTINUE AND FINISH THE MEETING AT THIS TIME, THE TIME IS NOW 1:22 P.M..

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

EXECUTIVE SESSION. ITEM MAY BE DISCUSSED AND ACTED UPON, IF APPROPRIATE, IN OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 55107, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE HELD FOR CONSULTATION WITH THE COURT'S ATTORNEY FOR ADVICE REGARDING THE FOLLOWING MATTERS A1 PENA VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY TWO. SWATTERS VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY THREE. WEISSER TREVINO VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY B.

LEGAL ISSUES PERTAINING TO THE FOLLOWING MATTERS IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY FOR BEXAR COUNTY AND THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ONE A MEMORANDUM STANDING BY BEXAR COUNTY AND CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

SAN ANTONIO SPURS HOLDING TWO MEMORANDUM STANDING BY BEXAR COUNTY SAN ANTONIO LIVESTOCK EXPOSITION, COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD THREE DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL RESOLUTION OF A PERSONAL ISSUE IN THE MATTER OF BEXAR COUNTY CRIME LAB EMPLOYEE DANIELLE MOY AND LEGAL ISSUES RELATED THERETO FOUR FOR DISCUSSION OF A POTENTIAL RESOLUTION OF PERSONNEL ISSUE.

IN THE MATTER OF BEXAR COUNTY VETERANS SERVICES OF OFFICE EMPLOYEE MONICA SANCHEZ AND LEGAL ISSUES RELATED THERETO, AND FIVE LIABILITY AND LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE USE OF MOTORCYCLES AS TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES, AS REQUESTED FOR APPROVAL BY COUNCIL NUMBER THREE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 551087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

FOR DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, SPECIFICALLY ONE A MEMORANDUM STANDING BY AND AMONG BEXAR COUNTY, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. SAN ANTONIO SPURS HOLDING A MEMORANDUM OF STANDING BY BEXAR COUNTY SAN ANTONIO LIVESTOCK EXPOSITION, THE COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD. THE COURT WILL TAKE A BRIEF RECESS.

LET'S TAKE ABOUT A FIVE TEN MINUTE BREAK, GET BACK AND WE'LL FINISH OUT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THE OPEN SESSION.

ALL RIGHT.

[51. Approval for Constable Precinct 3 to change the FY 2024-2025 budgeted vehicles of 1 CMV Chevrolet 2500 / Ford F250 for commercial weight enforcement and 2 Chevrolet Tahoe's for traffic enforcement to two Chevrolet Tahoe's and two BMW Motorcycles. (Estimated Presentation Time: 5 minutes) (Mark Vojvodich)]

WELL, I THINK WE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE HERE TO TO PRESENT ON THIS, BUT THE HIGH LEVEL WAS AND YOU GUYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE THROUGH THIS WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THERE WAS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE THAT WAS NOT PRECINCT THREE REGARDING A TRUCK VERSUS A TAHOE, AND THAT YOU ALL WOULD PREFER TO STAY WITH THE TAHOE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND THEN THE SECOND PART WAS AROUND TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND AND USING BASICALLY EXCHANGING ONE TAHOE FOR TWO MOTORCYCLES IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO EXERCISE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING IN PRECINCT THREE FOR EVER.

CORRECT? YES. YES. MAYBE YOU CAN JUST ADD SOME MORE TO THE CONTEXT OF IT AND THE REQUEST AND AND THIS IS THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY THAT ARE COMING TO PRECINCT THREE, CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

THE THERE WAS $16,000 THAT CAME FROM UNUSED PERSONNEL BUDGET.

THAT WAS GOING TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT BETWEEN THE MOTORCYCLES AND THE TAHOE. THAT IS CORRECT.

I DON'T KNOW. IS THIS ON? YES. YES. OKAY. JUST GOT TO GET KIND OF CLOSE, BUT GO AHEAD.

SO ON THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PORTION OF IT, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN OPERATION RIGHT NOW.

DEPUTY CASTRO WENT TO THE COURSE. WE OUTFITTED HIS TAHOE THAT HE'S CURRENTLY DRIVING NOW.

WE HAVE A SERGEANT THAT'S PRETTY HANDY. AND HE HAD SOME HELP WITH HIS WITH A FAMILY MEMBER THAT BUILT US A BOX FOR $363 VERSUS 3000. WE COULD HAVE SPENT ON GETTING A BOX FOR THAT TAHOE.

SO WE SAVED SOME MONEY THERE. THANK YOU. OH. YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE'RE JUST MINDFUL HERE. WE TRY TO BE MINDFUL OF OF THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

AND WHENEVER WE CAN DO STUFF IN HOUSE, WE WE ABSOLUTELY TRY TO DO STUFF IN HOUSE.

SO HE IS OPERATIONAL OUT THERE RIGHT NOW PERFORMING HIS DUTIES AS YOU ALL YOU ALL HAVE INSTRUCTED US TO DO ON THE COMMERCIAL WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT.

[04:20:04]

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THE SHERIFF IS DOING WITH HIS HIS MOTOR UNIT, BUT IF WE WERE TO IF YOU WERE TO ALLOCATE THOSE WHERE WE GET THOSE TO BMW MOTORCYCLES. THOSE MOTORCYCLES CAN GO A LOT MORE PLACES THAN A TRADITIONAL TAHOE CAN GET INTO CONSTRUCTION ZONES.

THERE'S SHORT SCHOOL ZONES WHERE YOU JUST CAN'T SIT AND WORK THOSE SCHOOL ZONES BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE TOO SHORT, BUT THEY STILL DESERVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF ATTENTION.

AND WITH MOTORCYCLES, YOU CAN UTILIZE BETTER WAYS AND AVENUES OF DOING TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

NOT ONLY ARE THEY CHEAPER PURCHASING, BUT THEY ARE CHEAPER TO RUN.

COST IN THAT WAYS. WE GET ASKED TO DO TRAFFIC ALL OVER PRECINCT THREE.

WE'VE BEEN OUT WEST OF HELOTES IN THE LITTLE IN THE LITTLE PLACE, A LITTLE SUBDIVISION.

WE'VE BEEN OUT TO EVANS AND NACOGDOCHES. WE'VE BEEN UP TO 21, DOWN TO ALAMO HEIGHTS.

AND RECENTLY, YOUR OFFICE. COMMISSIONER MOODY ASKED US TO GO OUT TO BOERNE STAGE ROAD TO ASSIST.

SO WE WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WE WE GOT A CALL THAT MORNING, AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES, WE HAD OFFICERS OUT THERE ASSISTING AND DOING WHAT YOU ASKED US TO DO. SO WE ARE VERY MINDFUL OF WHAT WE'RE OUT, WHAT THEY'RE TASKED TO DO.

WE LOOK AT TEXTDATA WE GET INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE ALLOCATE TWO OF THOSE MOTOR UNITS INSTEAD OF TAHOES.

NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND AND YEAH, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH CONSTRUCTION OF BOERNE STAGE ROAD.

IT'S ALMOST COMPLETE. AT THIS POINT. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

BUT APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSIVENESS AND THE OFFICE AND COMING OUT THERE AND SUPPORTING US.

LISTEN, I HAVE SOME SOME COMMENTS HERE. AND AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COURT HAVE, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY THIS WAS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM, TO BE HONEST.

RIGHT. I MEAN, I THINK WE WE HAVE HAD SOME BIG CONVERSATIONS TODAY THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THIS IS BASICALLY THE THE MOVING OF 16 GRAND FROM ONE BUCKET OF CONSTABLE MONEY TO ANOTHER BUCKET OF CONSTABLE MONEY.

I ALSO JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF EMPOWERING OUR TEAMS AND OUR OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS TO GO DO THE JOB THAT THAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO WE SHOULD DEFER TO THEM. I ASKED YOU THIS MORNING WHEN CONSTABLE VOJVODICH GOT INTO TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT WAS BEFORE I WAS BORN. AND. SORRY, CONSTABLE TO TO CALL YOU OUT FOR YOUR AGE, BUT, I MEAN, REALLY, HE'S BEEN DOING LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR OVER 45 YEARS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO SECOND GUESS HIM AND QUESTION EVERY MINOR DECISION THAT WE MAKE ABOUT HOW BEST TO DO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. TO ME, THAT'S JUST IT'S MICROMANAGEMENT, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE BEST PRACTICE.

SO YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM. I THINK WE SHOULD DEFER TO TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING THE WORK THE EXPERTS, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT SOMETHING COUNTER TO ANY POLICY THAT THAT THIS COURT HAS DEFINED.

BUT I'LL TAKE A PAUSE THERE AND SEE IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT. THANK YOU. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES ACROSS THE COUNTY HAVE DONE SCHOOL ZONE MONITORING, AND THEY'VE DONE THE SCHOOL ZONE TRAFFIC CONTROL, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I THINK ANY COMMISSIONER WHO'S HAD THOSE CALLS FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS KNOWS HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE.

YOU'VE IDENTIFIED A VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION, WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION AND ROADWAYS THAT WE HAVE AND THE FACT THAT YOUR TAHOES CANNOT DO THAT IN THE CONSTRUCTION AREAS WITHOUT.

WELL, THEY JUST CAN'T DO IT. AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S CORE FUNCTION OR NOT THIS IS A FUNCTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME TO EXPECT FROM ALL THE CONSTABLES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL ARE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO PIVOT TO THESE KINDS OF MOTORCYCLES.

SO MY, MY WHOLE THING IS I'M NEVER HERE TO GET IN YOUR WAY.

THIS IS A BUDGET NEUTRAL THING. YOU'VE IDENTIFIED A WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN WITHOUT ANY FURTHER INCURSION.

SO I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF JUST LETTING YOU DO THE BEST JOB YOU CAN WITH WITH THE RESOURCES.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

YEAH. THANK YOU. JUDGE. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A HARD TIME, I GUESS HEARING A COMPELLING REASON WHY A MOTORCYCLE IS MORE EFFECTIVE FOR

[04:25:06]

SO I'LL GIVE YOU A FOR INSTANCE. THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SCHOOL IS CALLED, BUT IT'S UP OFF OF HARDY OAK AND THERE'S TWO THERE'S A CENTER MEDIAN IN THERE.

OKAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO LANES GOING NORTH, TWO LANES COMING SOUTH IN ORDER TO, TO EFFECTIVELY THAT SCHOOLS.

AND THERE'S NOWHERE FOR ME TO PARK FOR ME TO ENFORCE TRAFFIC UP THERE SAFELY.

OKAY. AND IN A BIG TAHOE. SO YOU HAVE TO PARK ON THE ON THE MEDIA PARK UP ON UP OFF THE SIDEWALK.

GET UP OFF THE ROADWAY. I'D HAVE TO PARK UP ON THE SIDEWALK.

BLOCKING A SIDEWALK. I HAVE TO PARK WITHIN THE SCHOOL ITSELF WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET IN AND OUT OF THAT.

SO IF I WAS SITTING ON A MOTORCYCLE UP, JUST UP, YOU KNOW, INSIDE THE SCHOOL, I COULD USE MY LEADER AND SAFE TO GET IN AND OUT. I'M. IT'S VERY MOTORCYCLE IS VERY SMALL.

CAN GO PLACES AT TAHOE. CANNOT GO. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS, I THINK YOUR CONSTABLE'S ONE OF THE FEW THAT USES THE I GUESS IT'S A RADAR OR A STATIONARY RADAR. YES.

LIDAR. YEAH. SO. SO IN THAT KIND OF AN INSTANCE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU USE THAT? IN THAT KIND OF A PREDICAMENT WHERE YOU CAN'T.

SO IT IN A BIG TAHOE. I'M SITTING. YOU HAVE TO PARK PERPENDICULAR IF I'M USING LIDAR.

OKAY. IF I'M IF I'M STATIONARY, THIS AND I HAVE A ROADWAY COMING THIS WAY IN FRONT OF ME, I HAVE TO SIT PERPENDICULAR TO THE ROAD TO GET ENFORCEMENT. OKAY. SO A MOTORCYCLE CAN GET RIGHT UP OFF THE ROADWAY WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. A BIG TAHOE I'M GOING TO BE CAUSING A LOT MORE DISTURBANCE TO THAT SCHOOL THAN I NECESSARILY HAVE TO.

I CAN'T GO UP AND DOWN AND TRAVEL BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO CUT OVER.

OKAY. IF I CATCH A SPEEDER. SO MOTORCYCLE JUST HAS MORE MANEUVERABILITY.

YEAH. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

NO. IT'S OKAY. THEY HAVE MORE MANEUVERABILITY.

THEY CAN GET IN TIGHTER SPACES. JUST PICTURE A SMALL BMW MOTORCYCLE GOING INTO A SMALL SPACE THAT A TAHOE CANNOT GO.

OKAY, THEY'RE MORE EFFECTIVE. LET ME ASK YOU, IT'S STILL HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, BUT LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS.

IS THE LIABILITY ISSUE AND THE SAFETY OF YOUR POTENTIAL MOTORCYCLE OFFICER.

DO THEY DO YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY TRAINED ON MOTORCYCLES, OR WHAT KIND OF SAFETY PRECAUTIONS WOULD WE HAVE? WE HAVE IDENTIFIED TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE THEIR CLASS M, SO FOR MOTORCYCLES, THEY'VE WRITTEN PRETTY MUCH ALL THEIR LIVES ON THAT.

WE WOULD PARTNER WITH A OUTSIDE AGENCY TO EFFECTIVELY TRAIN OUR FOLKS.

WE WOULD SET UP THE COURSE AS IT WOULD STAND ON A FOR A MOTORCYCLE OFFICER TO DO THOSE COURSE TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN MANEUVER THAT, THAT BIKE EFFECTIVELY. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SMALL BMW MOTORCYCLE VERSUS WHAT THEY DRIVE.

THEY OPERATE, YOU KNOW, THESE BIG, YOU KNOW, HARLEYS AND HONDAS AND STUFF.

SO A SMALL A SMALL BMW, YOU'RE ABLE TO TO MANIPULATE THOSE PRETTY PRETTY EASILY AND GET IN THOSE TIGHT MANEUVERS TO DO THOSE, THOSE TYPE OF YOU KNOW, TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED OF THAT MOTOR OFFICER.

OKAY. AND YOU CAN GO YOU CAN KIND OF GOOGLE THAT ON YOUTUBE OR, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE IT AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TRAINING THEY GO THROUGH.

IT'S JUST IT'S A BIG SET UP IN A BIG PARKING LOT WITH CONES.

AND THEY JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN OPERATE THAT, THAT MOTORCYCLE.

YEAH. AND LISTEN I YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO BE SUPPORTIVE.

I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE VISITED WITH MY CONSTABLE.

WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND PRECINCT TWO, THEY'RE DOING THESE PATROLS WITHOUT AN ISSUE IN YOU KNOW, REQUESTING MOTORCYCLES. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER CONSTABLES THAT ARE DOING WHAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING WITHOUT MOTORCYCLES, AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT.

I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE, BUT BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING I CAN SUPPORT TODAY WITHOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON ON FUNCTIONALITY.

SO I CAME TO THIS COUNSEL'S OFFICE IN 2016 AS A TRAFFIC OFFICER.

OKAY. WE HAD TWO MOTOR UNITS THEN, AND I WAS PART OF A TAHOE TEAM THAT SUPPORTED THE THE MOTORCYCLES THAT WERE THE TWO OPERATORS THAT WERE THERE.

WE WOULD STILL HAVE MOTORCYCLES TODAY IF IT WASN'T FOR THE PAST COMMISSIONERS COURT CUTTING US. WE WOULD STILL HAVE THOSE.

OKAY. AND IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. THANK YOU.

[04:30:04]

AND FOR THE RECORD, THIS MATTER WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH CONSULTATION TO THE ATTORNEY.

THAT'S A CONFIDENTIAL CONVERSATION THAT THE COURT HAD IN REGARDS TO LIABILITY AND RISK MANAGEMENT IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. SO MY CONCERN OR NO, LET ME STATE IT THIS WAY.

WHETHER THIS MOTION PASSES OR THIS MOTION DOES NOT PASS.

I PERSONALLY, AS COUNTY JUDGE, AM INSTRUCTING THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE THE BUDGET IN REGARDS TO THE CONSULTATION THAT WE GOT FROM THE ATTORNEY. I WANT A POLICY.

I WANT A A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE POLICY OF CONSTABLE'S OR ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN REGARDS TO MOTORCYCLES, IN REGARDS TO RISK MANAGEMENT AND THE WHO IS DESIGNATED TO OPERATE THESE VEHICLES? I NEED TO KNOW, DO WE HAVE A POLICY? DO THEY HAVE TRAINING? AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I'M JUST NOT PUTTING TWO MOTORCYCLES AND THEN HAVE WHOEVER WANTS TO JUMP ON THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEY, DID THEY HAVE THE RECORD OR WHAT? I JUDGE, I GET IT, BUT THERE'S NO POLICY.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH AS COUNTY JUDGE.

WHEN I ASK, WHERE'S THE POLICY? WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE.

AND SO I AM JUST WHETHER THE MOTION PASSES OR THE MOTION FAILS, I WANT A POLICY.

I WANT ALSO TO MINIMIZE RISK MANAGEMENT. IN REGARDS TO THESE MOTORCYCLES.

I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND THE UTILITY OF THESE VEHICLES.

BUT THIS IS AN OUT OF CYCLE BUDGET REQUEST, AND WE'VE HAD OTHER OUT-OF-CYCLE BUDGET REQUESTS THAT WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE ON BECAUSE IT'S THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT AND I REALIZE THE THE NET ISSUE OF JUDGES IS A TRADE OFF.

WELL, THAT'S A BUDGET ISSUE I'M FOCUSED IN ON THE RISK MANAGEMENT.

I'M FOCUSED IN ON POLICY. I'M FOCUSED IN ON WHAT DO THE OTHER CONSTABLES REQUEST? BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T WANT MOTORCYCLE, WELL, THEN WHAT DO THEY WANT IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC SAFETY? WHAT DO THEY FEEL IS IMPORTANT IN REGARDS TO SCHOOL SAFETY ZONE? THOSE ARE LEGITIMATE ISSUES AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THE CONSTABLES AS I'VE DONE, BUT I'VE MADE IT REAL CLEAR TO THE CONSTABLES THAT I WANT THEM TO SPEAK AS A GROUP SO THAT THEY CAN TELL THE COURT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

UNDERSTANDING THEIR NEEDS MAY BE UNIQUE, BUT IF THEY TALK TO US AS A GROUP, I CAN UNDERSTAND.

CONSTABLE TWO NEEDS THIS, AND SHE HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE NEEDS MORE POSITIONS.

CONSTABLE FOUR HAS MADE IT REAL CLEAR IN REGARDS TO HER NEW FACILITY.

SHE NEEDS NEW POSITIONS AND WHEN THEY COME OUT OF CYCLE AND WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS, EVEN THOUGH THEY APPEAR TO BE NET NEUTRAL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE. WHERE'S OUR PROCESS? WHERE'S OUR POLICY? HAVE HOW WE TAKE AND CONSIDER RISK MANAGEMENT AND WHAT ARE GOING TO BE THE DUTIES OR THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CONSTABLES UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION AND THIS HAS EVEN TOUCHED UPON WITH THE WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT.

WE WERE TOLD WE JUST NEEDED A VEHICLE IN ORDER.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT APPEARS TO BE SOME DISPUTES, BUT WE WERE TOLD THEY NEEDED A PICKUP.

WE GOT THEM A PICKUP. NOW I'M TELLING YOU, WE DON'T NEED THE PICKUP.

WE HAD TAHOES THEN WHY DID WE HAVE TO GO BUY PICKUPS THEN? I ASSUME WE HAVE TAHOES IN OUR FLEET AND THE CONSTABLE'S HAD TAHOES THAT THEY COULD HAVE CONVERTED.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO THEN PURCHASE THE PICKUPS. YOU GUYS GET IT.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY. AND THEN THE OTHER DYNAMIC WAS, WELL, THEN THEY NEEDED THESE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS IN ORDER TO CARRY OUT THE RESPONSIBILITY. THAT WAS AGAIN ANOTHER NET NEUTRAL PROPOSITION.

OH, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS. IT WON'T COST ANYTHING.

AND WE ENDED UP GIVING ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, AS I RECALL.

CORRECT ME IF I'M MISSTATING ANYTHING FROM THE LAST BUDGET.

WE GAVE ADDITIONAL POSITION. WE GAVE THEM A VEHICLE. GO OUT THERE AND DO REINFORCEMENT.

AND I'M PRESUMING YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY ALLUDED TO IT.

IT'S BEING DONE, BUT I KIND OF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

ALL RIGHT. WE MADE THESE DECISIONS. HOW HAS THAT DECISION MADE THIS COMMUNITY SAFER? HAS IT MADE IT SAFER? IS IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENTS? IS IT REALLY NECESSARY THAT WE CONTINUE TO CARRY OUT WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT? I MUCH RATHER HAVE THEM IN SCHOOL ZONES, COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT I SEE THE CONSTABLE BEING ABLE TO DO,

[04:35:04]

SO I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE SO-CALLED THESE PARTICULAR MOTORCYCLES CAN DO THAT, BUT I NEED MORE INFORMATION.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY, AS AN OUT OF CYCLE BUDGET CYCLE REQUEST.

I CAN'T SUPPORT IT, BUT I WILL SUPPORT IT AFTER STAFF AND THE CONSTABLES DO AN ASSESSMENT AND THEN ADDRESS ALL MY CONCERNS THAT I'M RAISING TODAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO THE BUDGET OFFICE AND WILL YOU ALL AGREE TO DO THAT? ALRIGHT, I'M READY TO CALL FOR A VOTE UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OH, WE NEED A MOTION. I MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE ITEM 51, THE THE TRANSFER OF THE NECESSARY BUDGET WITHIN THE PRECINCT THREE CONSTABLE'S BUDGET IN ORDER TO AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF THE TWO MOTORCYCLES AND THE TAHOE VERSUS THE TRUCK.

AS OUR CONSTABLE'S REQUESTED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

I CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NO. NO. MOTION FAILS.

LET'S CARRY ON. ITEM 52 DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING BEXAR COUNTY LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM IN THE 89TH SESSION OF THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE.

[52. Discussion and appropriate action regarding Bexar County's Legislative Program and the 89th Session of the Texas Legislature. (Estimated Presentation Time: 15 minutes) (Melissa Shannon)]

BUT LET'S IT'S SUCH A LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. LET'S JUST GET THE HEART OF THE MATTER.

WHAT WHAT WHAT HAS WHAT DO WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT? WELL, THE ITEMS ARE DYING BY THE MINUTE, LUCKILY.

SO SO HAS ANYTHING SURVIVED THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO THE GOVERNOR FOR APPROVAL? THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF ONE VERY GOOD ITEM THAT IS GOING TO THE GOVERNOR.

IT WAS JUST SIGNED IN THE HOUSE TODAY. BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THROUGH THE SENATE, CAME BACK TO THE HOUSE.

IS HB 3234, WHICH WOULD ALLOW COUNTIES OVER ONE 1 MILLION AND OVER.

WE CAN INSPECT OUR OWN AND PERMIT OUR OWN BUILDINGS.

SO WE WON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE THE MUNICIPALITY WHERE THAT BUILDING IS LOCATED, TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR PERMITTING AND DESIGN WORK. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE HAD.

WE SUPPORTED THAT. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. WELL, THAT DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE THAT THE SHERIFF BROUGHT TO THE IN THIS OVER THE WEEKEND, THESE HOMES THAT TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE. OH, NO.

WE'RE TALKING WE'RE TALKING OUR OWN BUILDINGS THAT THE COUNTY OWNS.

BASICALLY WE DON'T WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY THE CITY ALL THOSE INSPECTION FEES FOR OUR OWN BUILDING.

ALSO, THEY'LL BE CALLING ME ABOUT THE LOSS OF REVENUE.

$14 MILLION SAVINGS FOR US. SO. YEAH. OKAY. YES.

SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS. I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT'S ON THE LIST REALLY QUICKLY.

NO, I MEAN, ARE THEY ARE THEY STILL PENDING OR WHATEVER? BECAUSE I GUESS WE'RE SUCH CLOSE TO SIGNEE DIE THAT WE.

YOU COULD JUST COME AT THE NEXT MEETING AND TELL US WHAT WHAT WHAT'S DEAD? YEP. YEAH. SO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A ZOMBIE TO COME BACK OUT AND COME ALIVE AFTER YOU TELL US THAT IT'S.

YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT SIX MORE DAYS TO GO. REALLY? SO NEXT TUESDAY IS SIGNEE DIE. SO WE'RE NEARING THE END TODAY.

SO THEY MET FOR THE HOUSE, MET FOR 20 HOURS YESTERDAY.

THEY STARTED AT TEN AND FINISHED AT 6 A.M. THIS MORNING.

WENT BACK IN AT 10 A.M. THIS MORNING. AND THEY WERE.

SO TODAY IS TUESDAY. THEY WERE STILL ON ITEMS TODAY THAT WERE ON SATURDAY'S CALENDAR, SO THEY ARE WAY BEHIND.

BUT TODAY IS THE DAY. TODAY IS THE DAY THAT BILLS LIVE OR DIE.

OKAY. SO ANYTHING THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IS STILL ALIVE.

WELL, ALL OF THE FINANCE BOND BILLS, ANY OF THOSE THAT WERE ON YOUR LIST THAT I WAS MONITORING, MONITORING FOR, YOU HAVE EITHER DIED OR OR FAILED TO GET PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE.

SO THAT'S SOME THAT'S GOOD NEWS. SENATE BILL NINE WHICH IS ON YOUR LIST ON THE FIRST PAGE.

ONE A ON YOUR POLICIES. THAT ONE JUST PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE SEVEN DAYS AGO.

SO IT'S BEEN A WEEK. IT WENT BACK TO THE SENATE.

SO NOT LOOKING GREAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SITTING IN THE SENATE FOR SEVEN DAYS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF I LOOKED AT IT THIS MORNING AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE OR ANYTHING SET ON THAT ONE, SO IT'S STILL HANGING OUT THERE. HOUSE BILL 23 ON THE NEXT PAGE UNDER LOCAL CONTROL. THREE A THAT ONE IS ONE WHERE IT WOULD ALLOW THIRD PARTY TO REVIEW FOR PLATS AND PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT. THAT ONE IS ON IT'S ON LIFE SUPPORT.

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IT'S BEEN HANGING IN THE SENATE COMMITTEE AND IT WILL NOT COME OUT.

THERE'S THERE'S NOT ENOUGH VOTES TO GET THAT ONE OUT.

AND SB 40 PUBLIC FUNDS FOR BAIL BONDS. THAT ONE'S STILL PENDING IN THE SENATE COMMITTEE.

SO IT'S IT'S CAME BACK FROM THE HOUSE AND WENT BACK TO THE.

I'M SORRY. IT'S SITTING ON THE SENATE CALENDAR, BUT IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE SINCE THE 21ST, SO THAT ONE'S NOT LOOKING GREAT. THE THE NEXT ONE ON THAT LIST, SENATE BILL 1173.

A GOOD THING FOR US IS AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURE, WHICH COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT METHOD MAY BE PAID, THAT WAS RAISED FROM 50 TO 100,000. SO THAT ONE WENT TO THE GOVERNOR ON THE 21ST.

WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO SIGN. IS THAT A GOOD ONE OR A BAD ONE? THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD ONE. YEAH. GREGORY LIKES IT.

OKAY. AND THEN LASTLY ON THAT LIST, I'LL BRING TO YOUR YOUR ATTENTION.

SB 2858, WHICH IS THE PREEMPTION BILL WHICH WHICH CONTROLS WHAT MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES CAN DO. AND THIS ONE IS GETTING INTO ELECTIONS.

SO THEY'RE GETTING MORE STRUCTURED IN WHAT THE STATE WOULD ELECTIONS AND PENAL CODES.

AND I FORGET MAYBE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE. I FORGET OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THEY'RE GETTING INTO THOSE CODES, TRYING TO CONTROL WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

THAT ONE IS ON THE CALENDAR, ON TODAY'S CALENDAR.

SO THEY'RE STILL ON SATURDAY'S CALENDAR. SO I THINK THAT ONE IS GOING TO DIE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S IT'S GOING TO MOVE, WHICH IS GOOD.

WE WERE REALLY GETTING WORRIED ABOUT GETTING INTO THE ELECTIONS CODE AND AND.

ALLOWING MORE LAWSUITS TO BE FILED AGAINST US BASICALLY.

SO I DO KNOW, COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SENATE BILL 38, AND I APOLOGIZE.

I WAS PUTTING THIS LIST TOGETHER SUNDAY NIGHT, AND I PUT MY NOTES TOGETHER, AND I DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE LIST.

SO THAT ONE WENT BACK TO THE SENATE. SO IT WAS A SENATE BILL THAT CAME OVER TO THE HOUSE, WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

IT'S GONE BACK TO THE SENATE. IT WENT BACK TO THE SENATE ON SUNDAY.

SO IT'S BACK OVER IN THE SENATE TO SEE WHAT IF THEY WILL CONCUR WITH THE CHANGES MADE IN THE HOUSE, OR IF THEY NEED TO SET A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE TO TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE CHANGES BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE VERSION.

SO THIS BILL STARTED OUT AS A SQUATTER'S BILL TO CONTROL INDIVIDUAL SQUATTING IN, IN HOMES.

AND IT'S GETTING INTO CHANGING STATUTE ON EVICTION.

SO IT'S, IT'S CUTTING DOWN FROM WHAT THE JP'S AND CONSTABLE'S ARE SAYING AND READING THE BILL.

I THINK THEY HAD LIKE BETWEEN 6 TO 12 DAYS TO FOR THE CITATION.

NOW THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER MUST SERVE THAT CITATION NOT LATER THAN THE FIFTH BUSINESS DAY AFTER THE ITEM WAS FILED.

YEAH, JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COURT. THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY THE CONSTABLE.

AND AND WHETHER IT WAS EVEN FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE WHAT WAS REQUIRED IN THE TIME FRAME THAT THE BILL DIRECTED.

SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S NECESSARILY GOING TO GO FORWARD AT THIS POINT.

THAT ONE, I CAN'T GET A READ ON IT BECAUSE IT'S GONE.

IT'S MADE ITS WAY ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE SENATE.

AND THAT'S A SENATE PRIORITY. IT'S A LOW BILL.

NUMBER 38. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR PRIORITY.

BUT I JUST DON'T I DON'T KNOW BETWEEN THE CHANGES BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO SUPPORT THE IDEA IN CONCEPT, RIGHT? BUT JUST MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS ON THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE.

SO WE WILL THE GOVERNOR HAS UNTIL JUNE 22ND TO VETO BILLS.

SO NOW IT'S JUST WHATEVER BILLS HAVE GONE TO HIS DESK, HE'S GOT UNTIL THE 22ND TO VETO, SIGN OR VETO.

SO AS SOON AS THE 22ND HAPPENS WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, I'LL HAVE A REPORT THAT I'LL GET OUT TO YOU, AND THEN I CAN COME AT A MEETING AFTER THAT AND GO GO THROUGH FISCAL IMPACTS FOR US.

BUT WE'RE NEARING THE END. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. TAKE UP 53. AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF EXECUTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT TO EXTEND ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS,

[53. Authorizing the approval and execution of a second amendment to extend, on a month-to-month basis, the service agreement with Selrico Services, Inc. certified as (HASE, MBE, SBE, VBE) for the provision of full food services for inmates, detainees, staff and visitors, not to exceed amount $33,750,064 as requested by the Sheriffs Office; authorizing the Purchasing Agent to execute and file the appropriate documents for record. (Estimated Presentation Time: 5 minutes) (Gregory Galloway)]

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GOOD AFTERNOON. JUDGE. COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I AM MAKING A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION OF THE MONTH OF MONTH SERVICES TO SELL RICO ON BEHALF OF THE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

HOWEVER, I NEED TO ADVISE THE. YOUR HONOR AND THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN AND ACTIVE SOLICITATION REGARDING THESE SAME SERVICES RIGHT NOW. SO I WOULD LIKE TO REFRAIN FROM ADDRESSING ANY NEW SERVICE REQUESTS, ANYTHING TO DO WITH NEW. WE SHOULD NOT ADDRESS IT IN THIS FORUM.

SO I GOT IT. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER. CALVERT. COMMISSIONER.

MOODY. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. LET'S CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. CARRY ON. 54. APPROVAL AND EXECUTION.

[54. Approval and execution of a purchase order to the lowest, most responsive bid submitted by Cornerstone Detention Products in the base bid amount of $3,257,853 plus Alternate 1 in the amount of $173,576 plus $25,000 owner's contingency for a total award amount of $3,456,429 to provide for the renovations of ADC Sliding Doors Retrofit Project, as requested by the Facilities Management Department; authorizing the Purchasing Agent to execute and file the appropriate award documents for record. (Estimated Presentation Time: 5 minutes) (Gregory Galloway)]

AUTHORIZED, IMPERSONATED, EXECUTE FILED THE APPROPRIATE AWARD DOCUMENTS FOR RECORD.

IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ANYTHING ELSE? MR. GALLOWAY, YOU'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL. YES, SIR, I AM.

DAN CURRY, YOU NEED THIS, RIGHT? THIS IS FOR THE JAIL, ISN'T IT? ADC IS ADULT DETENTION. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION BY SAYING AYE? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

I NEED A MOTION FOR THE LATE FILE DISCUSSION.

[55.a. Discussion and appropriate action related to granting an exception to Administrative Policy 1.2 to authorize the consideration of the following late filed Agenda Item #55a. Approval of a professional services agreement with Greenberg Traurig, LLP for certain representation of Bexar County related to the development and redevelopment of the Frost Bank Center and the Freeman Coliseum and related projects and legal services requested or required for purposes of the potential participation by Bexar County in a potential future downtown sports facility as well as all negotiations related those projects. (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Larry Roberson)]

TO AUTHORIZE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING LATE FILE.

ITEM 55 A IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LATE FILE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER MOODY OR CALVERT? EXCUSE ME.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE LATE FILE? REQUEST AND APPROVAL? ANY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? ALRIGHT, LET US NOW TAKE UP 55 A APPROVAL OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH GREENBERG TRAURIG LLP FOR CERTAIN REPRESENTATIONS OF BEXAR COUNTY RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT OF FROST BANK CENTER, FREEMAN COLISEUM. RELATED PROJECTS. LEGAL SERVICES REQUESTED OR REQUIRED FOR PURPOSES OF THE POTENTIAL PARTICIPATION BY BEXAR COUNTY IN A POTENTIAL FUTURE DOWNTOWN SPORTS FACILITY, AS WELL AS ALL NEGOTIATIONS RELATED TO THOSE PROJECTS.

WHO'S GOING TO PRESENT OR IS THERE ANY NEED FOR A MOTION? YES. YES. THAT WAS THE ATTORNEYS THAT PARTICIPATED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

LARRY, YOU WANT TO JUST ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROBERTSON? COMMISSIONER. NO QUESTIONS. JUDGE.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE'VE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THEM THROUGH EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I KNOW THEY'VE GOT PARTICULARLY SPORTS AND ARENA EXPERTISE.

SO, YES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

WE NOW PASS TO 57. DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO PENDING LITIGATION OR SETTLEMENT.

[57. Discussion and appropriate action related to pending litigation or a settlement offer in the matter of Charlie M. Pena, Jr. v. Bexar County, Texas. (Estimated Presentation Time: 5 minutes) (Larry Roberson)]

MR.. ROBERTSON. THANK YOU. JUDGE. DURING EXECUTIVE.

THE COURT CONSIDERED A SETTLEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 25,000.

IN THE MATTER OF CHARLIE M PENA JUNIOR VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO PENDING LITIGATION OR SETTLEMENT. OFFER IN THE MATTER OF WYSER TREVINO VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY.

[58. Discussion and appropriate action related to pending litigation or a settlement offer in the matter of Brian Wisor and Julian Trevino v. Bexar County (Estimated Presentation Time: 5 minutes) (Larry Roberson)]

IS THERE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ARE THOSE IN ADJOURNMENT ALSO COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES LEAVE ANY.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES DID NOT LEAVE ANY. SO THESE ARE JUST ON BEHALF OF PRECINCT TWO.

I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THE NAME OF OSCAR TREVINO GILBERT GIBBY, GROOMER WHO IS THE NAMESAKE OF THE GROOMER GROOMER SEAFOOD,

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COMMISSIONER. MOODE. COMMISSIONER. CALVERT. I WILL ASK THAT WE ADJOURN IN THE NAME OF ROSE LEE, WHO IS THE BELOVED GRANDMOTHER OF BRITTANY MALLOY, AN ATTORNEY AND A CIVIL DIVISION OF THE BEXAR COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND I WISH AND BRITTANY, MY CONDOLENCES. ANDREW FLORES JUNIOR, WHO SERVED HIS COUNTRY IN THE US AIR FORCE AND WAS A FIREFIGHTER FOR KELLY AIR FORCE BASE AND WORKED AS A SCHOOL BUS DRIVER FOR NORTHSIDE ISD.

HE'S THE FATHER OF A GOOD FRIEND, JESSICA FLORES PEOPLES.

ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.