[4.a. 10:00 a.m. - Presentation of a status update from Alamo Trust, Inc. detailing progress on key goals and expenditures for the creation of the Alamo Visitor Center and Museum.]

VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM. I BELIEVE WE HAVE KATE ROGERS, HOPE ANDRADE OR

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THOMAS. THOMAS. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. JUDGE. FOR THE RECORD, THOMAS GUEVARA, OFFICE OF THE COUNTY MANAGER.

JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, FOR THE PUBLIC, IN JULY OF 2021, COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVED A MATCHING GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE ALAMO TRUST, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $5 MILLION PER YEAR FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD AND A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 25 MILLION.

THE ALAMO TRUST HAS HAS A REPORT, HAS PROVIDED A REPORT TO BEXAR COUNTY, PROVIDED THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER ALONG WITH THEIR AUDIT REPORT.

AND SO THIS WILL CONCLUDE THEIR REQUIREMENT FOR THIS YEAR'S GRANT AGREEMENT.

FOR THE CONTRACT. SO I'M GOING TO INVITE I KNOW WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, KATE ROGERS, AND OUR AND THE TREASURER OF OF OF THE ALAMO TRUST.

MISS HOPE ANDRADE HERE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION.

I KNOW WE HAVE TEN MINUTES, SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THAT. YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING KATE.

GOOD MORNING JUDGE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

JUDGE, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING THERE YESTERDAY FOR THE OPENING OF PLAZA DE VALERO.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, THANK YOU FOR ALSO HAVING SOME OF YOUR STAFF IN ATTENDANCE.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THIS QUICKLY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON TIME.

IT'S NOT ADVANCING.

JUST JUST ASK FOR NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. COULD I ASK FOR THE NEXT SLIDE.

I'M GOING TO SKIP THROUGH THIS HISTORICAL PART BECAUSE THE THE COURT IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FUTURE VISITOR CENTER MUSEUM.

AND OF COURSE, THE GENEROUS GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT BUILDING, IN PARTICULAR AS IT RELATES TO THE ALAMO PLAN. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE AERIAL VIEW THAT SHOWS THE CROCKETT BLOCK BUILDINGS WHERE THE FUTURE VISITOR CENTER MUSEUM WILL BE.

NEXT SLIDE. JUST AS A REMINDER, THE CROCKETT BLOCK INCLUDES THE HISTORIC CROCKETT BUILDING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1882, AND THE WOOLWORTH WOOLWORTH BUILDING, WHICH IS A STATE ANTIQUITIES LANDMARK BECAUSE OF ITS ROLE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT IN THE 1960S.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS WHAT THE THE BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE TODAY.

SO SINCE WE WERE HERE LAST YEAR, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE SPACE IN THE MIDDLE THAT WAS THE ENTRANCE TO THE OLD PALACE THEATER, WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME THE THE NEW GRAND LOBBY FOR THE VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.

NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OH. THANK YOU.

HERE'S A RENDERING THAT SHOWS WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN COMPLETE IN 2027.

AND I'M GLAD TO REPORT WE STILL ARE ON TRACK FOR A COMPLETION IN LATE 2027.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE ROUGH TIMELINE.

CONSTRUCTION OFFICIALLY KICKED OFF ON OCTOBER THE 1ST OF LAST YEAR.

IT WILL END IN AUGUST OF 2027, AND YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE SCHEDULE FOR THE EXHIBITS.

AND WE'RE GLAD BECAUSE SINCE WE WERE LAST YEAR, WE'VE ACTUALLY SELECTED THE FIRM WHO WILL BE DOING THE FABRICATION FOR ALL THE EXHIBITS INSIDE THE NEW BUILDING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS SHOWS YOU AGAIN THE WORK IN PROGRESS WITH THE DEMOLITION OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE PALACE THEATER. AND YOU SEE THE SIGN THAT WAS UNCOVERED FROM THE OLD HOTEL ALAMO, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HAD NOT BEEN SEEN IN YEARS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THESE ARE SOME IMAGES OF THE OF THE THE ENTRANCE AS IT WILL BE, INCLUDING THE LOBBY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE COURT, THE LOBBY WILL REMAIN FREE.

THERE WILL NOT BE A MISSION TO COME INTO THE LOBBY SPACE.

AND THERE WILL BE EXHIBITS IN THIS SPACE IN ADDITION TO THE EXTERIOR EXHIBITS, WHICH WILL ALSO REMAIN FREE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A VIEW AS YOU ENTER THOSE THOSE GLASS DOORS IN THE FRONT, AT THE BACK OF THE SPACE IS THE EXPANDED RETAIL AREA.

THERE'S A CAFE ADJACENT TO THAT. AND THEN IN FRONT OF THIS IS WHERE THE STATUARY WILL BE, THE SCULPTURES IN BRONZE THAT WILL TELL THE FULL 300 YEAR HISTORY OF THE ALAMO SITE ITSELF. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS SOME IMAGES FROM THE PHOTO SHOOT THAT WAS TAKEN TO INFORM THOSE SCULPTURES. WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THE SCULPTURES IS TO REPRESENT REAL PEOPLE, BEGINNING WITH JUAN RODRIGUEZ AND HIS FAMILY, WHO WERE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE FROM THIS COMMUNITY AND MOVING ALL THE WAY UP TO CLARA DRISCOLL AND ADINA DE ZAVALA, WHO ARE PICTURED IN THE BOTTOM CENTER AND WERE KNOWN AS THE SAVIORS OF THE ALAMO IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THESE ARE SOME FURTHER IMAGES THAT SHOWS YOU THE PROGRESSION, THE CREATION OF THE OF THE STATUES IN IN CLAY.

AND THEN THEY'RE SENT OFF TO THE FOUNDRY FOR CASTING.

THIS IS THE CAFE SPACE THAT I MENTIONED THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

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IT'S IN THE UPPER PASEO THAT CONNECTS THE HYATT PARKING GARAGE WITH THE CROCKETT BUILDING.

THE CAFE WILL FEATURE THIS VERY LARGE MURAL BY CALIFORNIA ARTIST MILLARD SHEETS.

IT WAS HUNG IN THE TRAVIS SAVINGS AND LOAN FOR YEARS AND YEARS IN SAN ANTONIO.

IT'S STILL OWNED BY THE FAMILY. THEY RECENTLY GIFTED IT TO THE ALAMO.

THIS IS THE UPPER PASEO, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

SO ON YOUR LEFT IS THE HYATT PARKING GARAGE. AND ON THE RIGHT, OF COURSE, IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW MUSEUM.

THIS IS WHAT THE CAFE SPACE WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN COMPLETE.

SO YOU SEE AGAIN THE HYATT PARKING GARAGE ON THE LEFT, THE CROCKETT BUILDING ON THE RIGHT.

ALL OF THIS IS A REMINDER IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A VERY COMFORTABLE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIT, RELAX, AND REFLECT ON THEIR LEARNING. THE VISITOR CENTER AND LOBBY.

THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. SO LOTS OF WORK TO DO AND THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE WEST WALL OF THE ALAMO MISSION AND FORT.

WE WILL RECREATE THAT WALL IN GLASS. THE GLASS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TEXT PANELS AS WELL AS ARTIFACTS EMBEDDED INTO THE MATERIAL.

AND THEN THE BRONZE SCULPTURES WE REFERENCE WILL SIT IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF OF THIS INTERPRETATION OF THE WALL.

THE CIVIL RIGHTS EXHIBIT IS ALSO MAKING PROGRESS THAT WILL BE PLACED IN THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING, ALSO PART OF THE FREE FIRST LEVEL OF THE NEW MUSEUM.

WE WILL DO A PARTIAL RECREATION OF THE LUNCH COUNTER IN THE SPOT WHERE IT ONCE STOOD.

THAT WILL INCLUDE SOME DIGITAL ELEMENTS THAT HELP TO TELL THE STORY OF BOTH THE AFRICAN AMERICAN AS WELL AS THE MEXICAN AMERICAN STRUGGLE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS THAT TOOK PLACE HERE LOCALLY. THIS IS KIND OF A RENDERING OR A MAP OF THE LOBBY LEVEL, IF YOU WILL, TO HELP ORIENT YOU.

SO YOU SEE THE RETAIL AND CAFE AT THE BACK, CIVIL RIGHTS GALLERY ON THE RIGHT, THE WALL THAT'S KIND OF SHADED IN LIGHT BROWN, AND THEN THE STATUES THAT WILL SIT IN FRONT OF THAT AND OVER ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS WHERE YOU'LL CHECK IN IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THE RFID EXPERIENCE INSIDE THE NEW MUSEUM, WHICH HELPS YOU TO PERSONALIZE YOUR JOURNEY AND OFFERS ADDITIONAL CONTENT AS YOU TRAVEL THROUGH THE EIGHT GALLERIES, THE 4D THEATER IS ALSO WELL UNDERWAY. WE'RE ABOUT TO START PRODUCTION ON THE FILM ITSELF AGAIN.

THIS PIECE WILL COVER ALL 300 YEARS OF ALAMO HISTORY, STARTING WITH FIRST PEOPLES SOME 10,000 YEARS AGO, MOVING UP THROUGH THE ARRIVAL OF THE SPANISH IN THE 1500S.

AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO ITSELF, WHICH OF COURSE OCCURRED IN 1836.

THESE RENDERINGS OF THE GALLERIES, THESE HAVE ALSO CONTINUED TO PROGRESS SINCE WE WERE TOGETHER LAST YEAR.

SO WE'RE IN FINAL DESIGN FOR MOST OF THE GALLERIES OF THE NEW MUSEUM.

WE'VE HAD GREAT INPUT FROM MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE HELPING TO INFORM THE CONTENT.

WE'VE ALSO SELECTED STEPHEN HARRIGAN, WHO IS A VERY WELL-KNOWN TEXAS AUTHOR WHO IS WRITING THE SCRIPT FOR THE NEW GALLERY.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST PEOPLE'S GALLERY YANAGUANA PERIOD.

LOTS OF NATURAL ELEMENTS. I WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS GALLERY ALSO INCLUDES A FILM, A THEATRICAL EXPERIENCE WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY INTERVIEWING DESCENDANTS WHO STILL LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT HOW THEY KEEP THEIR CULTURE AND TRADITIONS ALIVE IN 2025.

THIS IS ANOTHER RENDERING OF THAT. HERE YOU SEE THE ARTIFACTS THAT WILL BE ON DISPLAY, BUT YOU ALSO OVER ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN GET A GLIMPSE OF THAT THEATRICAL EXPERIENCE.

THIS IS THE MISSION ERA GALLERY. WE'VE BEEN ACCUMULATING A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT ARTIFACTS FOR THIS GALLERY.

IN THE CENTER IS THIS DIGITAL, INTERACTIVE? WELL, THAT'S DESIGNED TO REPRESENT THE WILL, THE WELL THAT SAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MISSION.

INSIDE THE WELL, VISITORS WILL BE ABLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SPECIFIC OBJECTS AND PEOPLE WHO WERE PART OF THE MISSION STORY.

LIFE AT THE MISSION WILL BE FEATURED PROMINENTLY, AS WILL A WHOLE SECTION THAT WILL FOCUS ON THE CANARY ISLANDERS, WHO FIRST SETTLED SAN ANTONIO BACK IN THE 1700S.

GROWTH OF SAN ANTONIO LEADS US INTO WHAT WE WHAT HISTORICALLY IS KNOWN AS MEXICAN RULE, WHICH LED UP TO THE TEXAS REVOLUTION.

SO THAT'S THE PERIOD FROM 1805 UP TO 1835. THIS GALLERY WILL ACTUALLY END WITH THE BATTLE OF BEXAR, WHICH WAS THE PRECURSOR TO THE BATTLE OF 1836.

WE'VE ALSO MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON THE THEATRICAL EXPERIENCE THAT WILL BE INSIDE THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO GALLERY ITSELF.

AND THIS ONE, THROUGH PROJECTION, IS DESIGNED TO SIMULATE WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE TO BE INSIDE THE WALLS OF THE ALAMO DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF MARCH THE 6TH.

SO VERY DRAMATIC IN ITS LOOK AND FEEL. AND YOU'LL GET INTERIOR IMAGES AS WELL AS EXTERIOR IMAGES.

AS YOU EXIT THE THEATRICAL EXPERIENCE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS REAL QUOTES FROM SURVIVORS.

AND OF COURSE, MOST OF THE SURVIVORS WERE EITHER WOMEN, ENSLAVED PEOPLE, AND IN SOME CASES, MEXICAN SOLDIERS OR OFFICERS WHO WHO TOLD THEIR ACCOUNTS OF WHAT THEY SAW DURING THE BATTLE ITSELF.

AFTERWARD, THERE'S A SPACE WHERE WE UNPACK THE MILITARY PORTIONS OF THIS, THE STRATEGY FROM BOTH SIDES.

SO AS YOU ENTER THE BATTLE GALLERY, YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THE MARCH TO SAN ANTONIO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE MEXICAN SOLDADOS,

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AS WELL AS THE TEXIANS WHO WERE HERE AND READY TO DEFEND THE FORT.

AND THEN IN THE CENTER OF THIS SPACE IS THE PHIL COLLINS DIORAMA, WHICH AGAIN GOES THROUGH ALL 13 DAYS OF THE SIEGE.

THE NEXT GALLERY REALLY FOCUSES ON 1840S UP UNTIL THE PERIOD WHEN FORT SAM WAS CONSTRUCTED, WHEN THE UNITED STATES ARMY CONTROLLED THE ALAMO, AND IT WAS AN IMPORTANT PERIOD IN OUR LOCAL HISTORY.

IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF SAN ANTONIO BECOMING A MILITARY CITY, USA.

BUT IT ALSO WAS A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD FOR THE CHURCH ITSELF, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE FIRST ROOF WAS ADDED TO THE STRUCTURE.

IT'S ALSO WHEN THE FAMOUS PARAPET THAT WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE TODAY WAS ADDED TO THE ALAMO.

THAT BRINGS US TO EARLY 20TH CENTURY AND PRESERVATION ERA.

THIS GALLERY WILL AGAIN TELL THE STORY OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS AND ALL THAT THEY DID TO SAVE THE SHRINE IN IN 1905 SPECIFICALLY, AND TALK A LOT ABOUT THE ROLE THAT CLARA DRISCOLL AND ADINA DE ZAVALA PLAYED IN THAT THIS IS ALSO THE TIME THAT IN IN POPULAR VERNACULAR, THE ALAMO BECAME KNOWN AS THE SHRINE OF TEXAS LIBERTY.

SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE WAYS THAT PEOPLE HAVE COMMEMORATED THIS, THIS SPACE OVER THE YEARS.

AND THEN THAT LEADS US TO THE FINAL GALLERY, WHICH IS THE IMPACT OF THE ALAMO ON POPULAR CULTURE.

SO THE GOAL IS THAT AS VISITORS GO THROUGH THESE GALLERIES, THEY'RE GETTING A MUCH DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE AUTHENTIC AND FACTUAL HISTORY OF THE ALAMO BEFORE THEY COME TO THIS SPACE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO SEE MAYBE FILM CLIPS YOU KNOW, SEE BOOKS, POSTERS, ALL OF THE ABOVE OF THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE INTERACTED WITH IN MODERN TIMES.

AND THEN THE LAST SPACE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR VISITORS TO REFLECT ON WHAT THE ALAMO MEANS TO THEM AND ALL THAT THEY'VE LEARNED THROUGH THEIR VISIT.

SO THROUGH DIGITAL IMAGERY AND USING THE TRAILS THAT ARE CREATED THROUGH THE RFID EXPERIENCE, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE ESSENTIALLY A VISUAL WORD CLOUD OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY THAT THEY FELT THAT DAY DURING THEIR VISIT TO THE MUSEUM.

THIS IS THE BOARD ROOM THAT WILL BE LOCATED ON THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THE NEW MUSEUM.

THIS WILL BE ONE OF MANY A SPACES THAT CAN BE RENTED, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOR THEIR UTILIZATION FOR FREE WHEN AVAILABLE. THE EVENT CENTER UP TOP IS ANOTHER SPACE THAT CAN BE USED FOR FOR EVENTS AND FUNCTIONS IN THE FUTURE.

THIS IS THE LARGEST OF THE EVENT SPACES AND WILL HOLD UP TO 700 FOR A SEATED DINNER.

IT WILL ALSO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IN TIMES WHEN IT IS NOT IN USE FOR AN EVENT.

SO LASTLY, WHAT I WANTED TO CAPTURE FOR THE COURT THIS MORNING IS SORT OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE YOUR MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT THUS FAR.

SO IN YEARS ONE THROUGH THREE AT THE TOP, YOU SEE HOW THOSE FEES HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED.

AND I WANT TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU, BECAUSE IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE GIFT FROM BEXAR COUNTY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN OF THE NEW MUSEUM, WHICH HAS GOTTEN US TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN NOW BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SO IT WAS BECAUSE OF YOUR GIFT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP MOVING IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN.

AND HOPEFULLY WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, YOU ALL WILL BE PLEASED WITH WHAT YOU HAVE HELPED TO CREATE.

AND THEN YEAR FOUR, THIS IS WHAT WE PLAN TO SPEND THE MONEY ON FOR THIS YEAR.

IT INCLUDES A CARRY FORWARD BALANCE OF A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR.

THE ART AS YOU SEE US MOVING FORWARD, THOSE ARCHITECTURAL FEES ARE GOING TO START TO COME DOWN.

THE PROGRAM MANAGER FEES AND AND MORE OF IT WILL BE ALLOCATED TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.

SO WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. THANK YOU YEAH I DO.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES HI, KATE. HI. SO WHEN YOU GUYS CAME LAST YEAR, I REREAD THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY WHEN WE ALLOCATED $25 MILLION. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN DONE SINCE THEN TO HELP TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR FEEL THAT THEIR VOICE IS BEING HEARD IN THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND ARE MADE TO FEEL UNSAFE OR SILENCED, AS I WAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SO ONE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE FACTUAL AND ACCURATE IN EVERYTHING THAT WE PRESENT.

WE FEEL THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF THE CREATION OF THIS NEW MUSEUM.

SO WE RELY ON SCHOLARSHIP AND PRIMARY SOURCE EVIDENCE TO HELP INFORM THAT.

WE DID COMMISSION A WHITE PAPER FROM DOCTOR ANDREW TORGET FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS TO REALLY DIG INTO THE ROLE OF SLAVERY IN THE TEXAS REVOLUTION, TO BE SURE THAT WE CAN BE FACTUAL AND ACCURATE AND ALL THAT IS REPORTED AND TOLD THROUGH THAT STORY THROUGH THE MUSEUM.

SO I THINK THAT'S ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN DONE THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN SHARED WITH YOU ALL, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE MUSEUM PLANNING COMMITTEE.

I THINK WE'VE REALLY PUSHED ON THE FACILITATOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF LISTENING TO ALL VOICES IN THE ROOM, AND I WILL SAY THAT THAT RESULTED IN, IN WHAT I THINK WAS A GOOD RESOLUTION TO SOME OF THE CONTROVERSY THAT AROSE OVER THE STATUE OF JOE AND HOW HE WOULD BE PORTRAYED.

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THERE WAS CONCERNS VOICED BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ABOUT HIM POTENTIALLY HOLDING A WEAPON, WHICH ORIGINALLY THAT THAT WAS HOW HE WAS PORTRAYED, BECAUSE BY HIS OWN ACCOUNT, WHICH WAS GIVEN TO WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CONGRESS OF THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS AT THE TIME, HE SAID IN HIS OWN WORDS THAT HE GRABBED HIS GUN AND FOLLOWED TRAVIS TO THE NORTH WALL.

BUT BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS DID NOT LIKE THAT PORTRAYAL, WE PIVOTED.

WE WE HAD A WORKING SESSION WHERE WE REALLY WORKED IN SMALL GROUPS TO LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER AND UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER'S PERSPECTIVES, AND WE CAME UP WITH WHAT I THINK IS AN ELEGANT SOLUTION WHERE TRAVIS IS STILL SEATED AT HIS DESK WRITING THE FAMOUS VICTORY OR DEATH LETTER, AND JOE IS PICTURED AT A DIFFERENT MOMENT IN TIME WHEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVING HIS ACCOUNT AND TESTIMONY BEFORE THE CONGRESS.

BUT HE'S LOOKING AWAY AND GESTURING AS IF TELLING HIS STORY, WHICH IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE WANTED AND RECOMMENDED.

SO I THINK THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE TAKEN FEEDBACK FROM THE MEMBERS AND INCORPORATED IT INTO THE DESIGN OF THE NEW MUSEUM.

WHAT ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH? WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH HAS BEEN DONE SO THAT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT THIS AND WHEN IT'S OPENING, AND HOW THEIR VOICES ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED AS TEXANS? I THINK THAT TAKES MULTIPLE FORMS. SO JONATHAN HOUSTON, WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, IS HERE THIS MORNING. AND I WOULD SAY THERE'S THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO.

SO OUR WHAT WE CALL OUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, WHICH IS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO OPERATE WITHIN THE ALAMO HISTORIC DISTRICT, HOTELS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND SO FORTH. WE DO QUARTERLY BREAKFASTS.

WE DO WEEKLY PHONE CALLS, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF WHATEVER CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY HAVE.

WE ALSO DO THE SAME IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE DONE A TON OF OUTREACH IN TERMS OF SCHOOLS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE EQUAL REPRESENTATION FROM THROUGHOUT BEXAR COUNTY OF SCHOOLS WHO ARE COMING AND TEACHERS WHO ARE SERVED THROUGH OUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

WHO'S WHO WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY OF WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE MUSEUMS AND THE EXHIBIT.

WILL IT BE THOSE OF US ON THE COMMITTEE, AND ALL THE TIME AND ENERGY THAT MEMBERS HAVE SPENT DIALOGING, OR WILL IT BE SOMEONE ELSE? NO. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE'VE REMAINED TRUE TO THE PROCESS.

AND THE MUSEUM PLANNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT PROCESS.

WE'VE INCORPORATED THEIR FEEDBACK INTO THE OUTLINE.

I THINK THAT MANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF YOU ASK THEM, WOULD SAY THAT THEY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED THEIR COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK, CHANGED VERBIAGE IN THE SCRIPT AND SO FORTH BASED ON CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD.

AND SO I THINK THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE NEARING THE END OF THAT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE GALLERIES ARE REACHING FINAL DESIGN.

THE NARRATIVE IS ACTUALLY BEING WRITTEN, BUT ALL OF THEIR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO WHAT WILL BE PROGRESSING FORWARD.

BUT WHO'S GOING TO HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THAT? THE COMMITTEE, THE FINAL SAY, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION AND EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE JUST AND EVERYTHING YOU'RE SUMMARIZING.

WILL THE COMMITTEE HAVE THE FINAL SAY IN APPROVING ALL THAT, THAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE INSIDE THE MUSEUM IN THE FINAL SCRIPT, THE FINAL, WHEN THE DOORS ARE OPEN FOR THE ALAMO MUSEUM AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS GO IN, WILL THE THINGS WE SEE BE THE SAME THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COMMITTEE, OR ARE THINGS GOING TO BE TRIED TO BE CHANGED? NO, NO, THERE'S NO CHANGING. WE'RE GOING TO LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE TRUE TO THE PROCESS. SO I THINK THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN THROUGHOUT AND THEY WILL SEE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS REFLECTED WHEN THE WHEN THE MUSEUM OPENS.

AND I'LL JUST REMIND THE COURT THAT OUR GOAL AT THE TRUST IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL PEOPLE, ALL VISITORS, WHEN THEY COME TO THE ALAMO IN THE FUTURE, THEY SEE THEMSELVES IN THE STORY.

OKAY, WELL, THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR $25 MILLION.

HOWEVER, AS YOU KNOW, HASN'T FELT THAT WAY. SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I REPRESENT MY CONSTITUENTS.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU CAN WRITE UP THOSE THINGS, THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO MAKE SURE, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT EVERYONE'S REPRESENTED, THAT ALL VOICES ARE HEARD IN THE COMMITTEE.

AND IF YOU CAN WRITE THAT UP UNTIL THEN LEON, I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU CAN HOLD THE FUNDS UNTIL THAT SENT TO US.

AND THEN ONCE THAT'S SENT TO US AND WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED, THEN WE'LL RELEASE THOSE FUNDS.

SURE. HAPPY TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MOODY. JUST A FEW COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, KATE.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND YOUR TEAM IS DOING ON THIS EFFORT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, AND OBVIOUSLY I'VE BEEN SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS, I FEEL THAT EVERYONE DOES HAVE A VOICE AND HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY FROM MY EXPERIENCE, I BELIEVE THAT'S TAKING PLACE.

THE THE OTHER THING THAT WE JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE OF IS, YOU KNOW, 25 MILLION IS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, BUT THIS IS A HALF BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. AM I CORRECT?

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YES, SIR. AND HOW MUCH IS THE STATE OF TEXAS CONTRIBUTING OR HAS ALREADY CONTRIBUTED TO TO THAT 400 MILLION DURING THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION? AND THAT'S THAT'S A HISTORIC INVESTMENT IN THE ALAMO GROUNDS.

AND AND OBVIOUSLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PLAYERS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN MAKING SURE THIS THING HAPPENS.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A MINORITY PARTNER IN THIS EFFORT FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ENSURING, YOU KNOW, THE ALAMO AND THE VISITOR CENTER IS DONE CORRECTLY.

WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RESPECT OUR PARTNERS IN THAT, BUT MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE WE HELP YOU GET THIS JOB DONE AND GET IT DONE IN A WAY THAT YOU KNOW, SUPPORTS OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND OUR STATE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. AND I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE BUT BUT WE THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE BETWEEN THE STORIES THAT WE WANT TO TELL AND KEEPING THE MAIN THING THE MAIN THING, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, 95% OR MORE OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO VISIT THE ALAMO WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO.

RIGHT. AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT AND BACKGROUND THAT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDED.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT'S HELPFUL AND IT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THAT THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT THE BATTLE.

AND I KNOW THAT BASED ON THE CURRENT PLAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.

IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING IN 2027 WHEN IT'S COMPLETE.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THE INVESTMENT FROM THE STATE.

JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE COURT WHEN THE WHEN THE VOTE WAS CAST TO AWARD THE 25 MILLION, THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR ACTUALLY APPEARED IN COMMISSIONERS COURT, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE HAS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE.

IT IS AN UNPRECEDENTED INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT ALSO REPRESENTS A RETURN TO BEXAR COUNTY OF ABOUT 12 BILLION FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WE'RE OBVIOUSLY IN NOW JOB CREATION, SALES TAX, HOT TAX, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF OPERATION.

SO IT IS AN UNPRECEDENTED INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HOPEFULLY WILL PAY DIVIDENDS OVER FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. RODRIGUEZ. LET ME LET ME JUST GO AROUND.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, I'LL BE BRIEF. JUDGE. THANK YOU. KATE. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE. I HAD A FEW, I GUESS, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS RELATED TO KIND OF WHAT YOU TOUCHED ON HERE AT THE VERY END.

AND THAT IS THE THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A A HISTORIC AND CULTURAL MONUMENT INVESTMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VENTURE.

AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT FROM YOU, AND I THINK I MAY HAVE ASKED THIS LAST TIME, AND I JUST NEED A REFRESHER.

I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY'S, YOU KNOW, NOT MANAGING THIS PROJECT.

WE ARE A PARTNER, BUT A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT.

AND I THINK YOU EVEN TESTIFIED THAT SOME OF THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED, BUT FOR THE COUNTY'S INVESTMENT.

SO MY QUESTION IS MORE RELATED TO, I GUESS, KIND OF LOCAL INVOLVEMENT, LOCAL BUSINESS.

I KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET DOWN TO SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION.

TO WHAT DEGREE ARE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW ANY ANY KIND OF OUTREACH TO LOCAL SMALL MINORITY BUSINESS HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY? YES. SO WE ACTUALLY OUR CONTRACTORS AND OUR CONSULTANT TEAMS ALL CAME TOGETHER.

IT WAS LAST SPRING, AND WE HOSTED THE FIRST OF WHAT WILL BE MANY OUTREACH ACTIVITIES.

AND WE HAD OVER 100 SMALL AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES IN ATTENDANCE.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO DO A GOOD JOB WITH REPRESENTATION.

I WILL SAY INTENTIONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A JOINT VENTURE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE CONSTRUCTION BETWEEN CLARK, WHICH IS A NATIONAL FIRM, AND GUIDO, WHICH IS LOCAL TO SAN ANTONIO.

OUR ARCHITECTS ARE GENSLER, WHICH THEY DO HAVE AN OFFICE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE OFFICES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.

WITH THE EDUCATION CENTER IN PARTICULAR. WE SPECIFICALLY WENT FOR A LOCAL ARCHITECTURE FIRM WEST EAST, AND WE CHOSE A LOCAL CONTRACTOR, G.W. MITCHELL.

WE ALSO REQUIRE THAT ALL OF OUR CONTRACTORS MONITOR AND REPORT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, HUB PARTICIPATION, AND WE'RE GLAD TO REPORT THAT WE ARE NOT ONLY MEETING, BUT EXCEEDING BOTH OUR LOCAL AND STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR HUB PARTICIPATION ACROSS THE BOARD. BUT WHAT IS THAT PERCENTAGE? NOW YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT.

I'LL GET IT TO YOU IN THE WRITE UP. WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT BACK TO THE COURT. I'M HAPPY TO I'M HAPPY TO SUBMIT THAT TO YOU.

THAT'D BE GREAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, BEST EFFORTS AND ASPIRATIONAL IS GREAT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE, I THINK, A RESPONSIBILITY WHEN WE'RE USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO TRY AND MAKE THE ECONOMY WORK FOR,

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FOR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE AND PROVIDING JOBS TO PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO, BEXAR COUNTY. SO IF YOU COULD JUST FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, I'D CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND I WILL SAY ON TUESDAY, WHAT WE WHAT WE REFER TO ON THE A PROJECT SITE AS TWO A, TWO B, WHICH IS THE SPACE THAT OPENED YESTERDAY, PLAZA DE VALERO.

THAT SPACE, WE WERE UP OVER 70%. YEAH. OKAY. OF LOCAL PARTICIPATION.

YEAH. AND I KNOW WE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION, KATE, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED, CONTINUING IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT, WITH SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, WHETHER IT'S CATERING AND, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING, I KNOW YOU HAVE, I THINK, A NATIONAL FIRM TO DO SOME OF THAT, BUT THAT THEY'RE ALSO UTILIZING SOME OF THE LOCAL TALENT IN BEXAR COUNTY AS SUBS IN A SIGNIFICANT AND SUBSTANTIAL SUBSTANTIVE WAY.

ABSOLUTELY. YES. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CLAY-FLORES. YEAH. SO NO ONE IS NEGATING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE STATE.

I AM A BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONER, NOT A STATE REP.

AND MY POINT. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COMMISSIONER MOODY, LIKE I SAID LAST YEAR, WHEN YOU SAID, QUOTE, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, YES, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE AS A WHITE MAN, I DIDN'T SAY THAT WHITE PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY FEEL UNSAFE AND SILENCED. I SAID, PEOPLE OF COLOR. SO, YES, COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU ARE CORRECT BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE.

AND YOU WERE NOT HERE WHEN WE PASSED THIS $25 MILLION.

AND IF I HAVE TO REMIND YOU THAT IN MY FIRST FOUR YEARS OF OFFICE, I WORKED WITH THREE REPUBLICANS.

YOU WEREN'T THERE, COMMISSIONER MOODY, WHEN I HAD TO FIGHT TO GET PEOPLE ON, WASN'T PLANNING TO GO ALL BACK THROUGH THIS, KATE, AS YOU WELL KNOW. BUT SINCE HE BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN, LET ME GO AHEAD AND DO THIS.

YOU WEREN'T THERE, COMMISSIONER MOODY, WHEN I HAD TO FIGHT TO BRING PEOPLE ON TO SIT ON THIS COMMITTEE.

BLACKS, LATINOS AND NATIVE AMERICANS AND HOW WE HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH, EVEN THOUGH WE PASSED THAT, THAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE IN THE AMENDMENT WHEN WE PASSED THE INITIAL $25 MILLION.

SO MY POINT, AS BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS I HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS, AND THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS PASSED. THEREFORE, IF THAT IS NOT DONE, THEN THE CONTRACT ISN'T BEING MET AND DOLLARS SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN.

AND THAT IS MY POINT. COMMISSIONER MOODY. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU. KATE ROGERS THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THE ALAMO TRUST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. LET'S CARRY ON.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING NOW TO THE NEXT TIME CERTAIN PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE MULTI

[4.b. 10:15 a.m. - Presentation and discussion of the multisystem approaches for improving, identifying and developing strategies for the Justice Intake and Assessment Annex (JIAA).]

SYSTEM APPROACHES FOR IMPROVING, IDENTIFYING, DEVELOPING STRATEGIES FOR THE JUSTICE INTAKE AND ASSESSMENT ANNEX, ALSO KNOWN AS JIA. JIA JIA IS RIGHT. DOCTOR. GREENFIELD LABORATORY.

DOCTOR. TESTA. DOCTOR TESTA. I NOTE YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT I JUST THINK YOU JUST.

YOU DID THAT AS A PRECAUTION TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOICE IS HEARD.

AND I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM YOU AND AND FROM OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

SO, DOCTOR TESTA, ARE YOU READY TO PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? DO WE HAVE THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION UP THERE WE GO.

ALL SET. AND WOULD YOU IDENTIFY YOUR EVERYBODY THERE AT THE PODIUM? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. I'M ALEX TESTA, THE PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR OF THE STUDY AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM OFFICE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE WITH ME. SO DOCTOR G, WITH THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE, WE HAVE MY DEPUTY, LESLIE MORENO, AND TONY GOSSETT IS THE DIRECTOR. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME MORE STAFF BACK HERE IF WE NEED TO PULL UP.

WE HAVE ANTONIO, OUR HAIKU MANAGER AND ALSO OUR RESEARCH ANALYST.

LET'S PROCEED. DOCTOR TESTA. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I WAS HERE TO START THIS STUDY.

AND I'M NOW HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THIS STUDY.

TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW I'LL BE SPEAKING ON TODAY IS THE JUSTICE INTAKE AND ASSESSMENT ANNEX, WHICH IS A 24 OVER SEVEN, 365 FACILITY THAT'S OPERATED BY BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WITH SUPPORT FROM MULTIPLE OTHER COUNTY AGENCIES.

ABOUT 65 DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES UTILIZE THIS FACILITY TO BRING ARRESTED PERSONS, AND THEY PROCESS ABOUT 135 DETAINEES A DAY, MOST OF WHICH COME FROM THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

MY PRESENTATION I'LL BE GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE KEY CHALLENGES THAT WERE FOUND IN THIS FACILITY, AS WELL AS RECOMMENDATIONS FOCUSING ON A 90 DAY ACTION PLAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND A POST 90 DAY PLAN.

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FIRST CONCLUSION. WE FOCUS ON THE DUAL REGISTRATION SYSTEM.

A BRIEF OVERVIEW. SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT PROCESSES ARRESTED PERSONS AT A CITY FACILITY, AND THEY ARE THEN TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTY FACILITY FOR A SECOND ROUND OF PROCESSING.

WE REFER TO THIS AS DUAL REGISTRATION. A NUMBER OF ISSUES WERE FOUND WITH THIS IN REGARD TO EFFICIENCY, INCLUDING ADDING ABOUT SIX HOURS ON AVERAGE TO THE BOOKING PROCESS, CREATING MEDICAL LIABILITY, AND OVERLOOKED MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES FOR THE COUNTY FACILITY, AN INEFFICIENT DUPLICATION OF MAGISTRATION SERVICES, AND CREATING AN UNNATURAL FLOW DUE TO GROUP TRANSPORTS OF TEN PEOPLE PER TIME FROM THE CITY TO THE COUNTY.

FACILITY. THE BONDING SYSTEM THAT'S USED AT THE COUNTY FACILITY FOCUSES ON A MANUAL PROCESSING OF BONDS THAT IS VERY PAPER BASED, WHICH CREATES INEFFICIENCIES, INCLUDING TIME SPENT PHYSICALLY SEARCHING AND TRANSFERRING FOR BONDS ACROSS THE FACILITY.

DELAYS IN UPDATING AND CORRECTING BONDS, MISPLACING AND DUPLICATING BONDS, AND REQUIRING IN-PERSON VISITS TO INITIATING THE BONDING PROCESS.

TRACKING OF DETAINEES THROUGH THE FACILITY THROUGHOUT THE MULTIPLE STAGES OF PROCESSING ALSO RELIES ON MANUAL TRACKING METHODS, WHICH CREATES DIFFICULTY IN TRACKING WHICH STAGE A DETAINEE IS IN THE PROCESS, AND VERIFYING THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED NECESSARY SERVICES, AND THIS IS EXACERBATED BY A DISJOINTED MOVEMENT THROUGH THE PROCESSING FACILITY, WHICH REQUIRES PEOPLE TO MOVE THROUGH MULTIPLE COMPONENTS OF THE FACILITY TO RECEIVE NECESSARY PROCESSING SERVICES. CROSS-AGENCY COMMUNICATION.

THERE IS ABOUT A DOZEN AGENCIES THAT OPERATE IN THIS FACILITY, ALL OF WHICH ARE TOUCH POINTS FOR AN ARRESTED PERSON BEING PROCESSED.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A LACK OF COMMUNICATION AMONG THESE AGENCIES TOWARD A CENTRALIZED GOAL, WHICH INHIBITS AN EFFICIENT PROCESSING AND ALSO LEADS STAFF TO FEEL UNINFORMED ABOUT THEIR ROLE AND PROCEDURAL CHANGES IN THE FACILITY.

IDENTIFIED FROM A CONCLUSION OF THE REPORT WAS THE NEED FOR A SOCIAL NEEDS SCREENER.

SPECIFICALLY, A WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE UNDERLYING NEEDS AND RISK OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PROCESSED IN THE FACILITY.

ARRESTED PERSONS ARE AMONG THE MOST VULNERABLE IN BEXAR COUNTY, AND THIS FACILITY BRINGS TOGETHER ALL ARRESTED PERSONS IN A CENTRALIZED FACILITY.

HOWEVER, WE LACK DATA UPON THEIR NEEDS, WHICH HINDERS STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT OF PROGRAMS AND DATA INFORMED INVESTMENT FOR POST-RELEASE SERVICES OF THIS POPULATION. ALSO, AS A PROCESSING OF ARRESTED PERSONS, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE MAGISTRATION OF ARRESTED PERSON DOES NOT OCCUR AT A STANDARDIZED TIME THROUGHOUT THE PROCESSING.

THIS LIMITS THE ABILITY FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE TO CONSULT BEFORE MAGISTRATES ON CASE REVIEW, CHARGE REDUCTION, CASE DISMISSAL, AS WELL AS A USE OF RISK ASSESSMENT TOOLS IN DETERMINING THE BONDING DECISIONS.

THE COMPUTER AND WI-FI SYSTEMS ARE OFTEN SLOW AND UNRELIABLE, WHICH CREATES DISRUPTIONS IN WORKFLOWS AND HINDERS THE EFFICIENT PROCESSING OF INDIVIDUALS. IT ALSO REQUIRES STAFF TO SIT AT STATIC LAPTOPS, RATHER THAN BEING ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH THE FACILITY TO AID WITH PROCESSING WITH THINGS LIKE TABLETS AND LAPTOPS. THE SATELLITE OFFICE, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THIS BUILDING AND BE 10.2, IS A FACILITY THAT DOES PROCESS CERTAIN CASES ON AN EXPEDITED FASHION.

HOWEVER, IT'S UNDERUTILIZED AND IT ALSO LACKS AWARENESS FROM POTENTIAL USERS, INCLUDING FAMILIES AND LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES, AS WELL AS LACKS A STANDARDIZED DIVERSION PROGRAM AND CAN BE EXPANDED, WHICH I WILL DISCUSS.

IN ADDITION, ANOTHER CHALLENGE IDENTIFIED WAS THAT THE DOORS INTO AND OUT OF THE FACILITY ARE OPERATED AND MUST BE OPENED REMOTELY BY A SINGLE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTY WHO VERIFIES CREDENTIALS ON A LIVE FEED.

THIS CONTRIBUTES TO PROLONGED WAIT TIMES, WHICH AGAIN ADDS UP OVER DAYS, WEEKS AND MONTHS TO INCREASE THE INEFFICIENCY IN THE PROCESSING.

I'LL CONCLUDE WITH THE 90 DAY ACTION PLAN THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED REGARDING THE DUAL MAGISTRATION SYSTEM.

ESTABLISHING MONTHLY MEETINGS TO CREATE A PLAN TO USE A SINGLE FACILITY AS A CENTRAL MAGISTRATION HUB, AS WELL AS, IN THE MEANTIME, DEVELOPING A PILOT PLAN FOR VIRTUAL MAGISTRATION FOR THOSE AT THE CITY FACILITY FOR BONDING BEXAR COUNTY.

IT IS PREPARING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR AN ELECTRONIC BONDING SYSTEM FOR THE TRACKING OF DETAINEES BCSO AND BEXAR COUNTY.

IT ARE ALSO PREPARING COST ESTIMATES FOR ELECTRONIC TRACKING VENDING THROUGH THE FACILITY FOR CROSS-AGENCY COMMUNICATION.

MONTHLY COLLABORATION MEETINGS ARE BEING ESTABLISHED WITH INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS TO INCREASE COMMUNICATION AND EXPEDITE EFFICIENCY OF PROCESSING IN THE FACILITY.

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FOR THE SOCIAL SCREENER, A SCREENING PROGRAM IS BEING DEVELOPED AND WILL BE PILOTED IN THE INTEGRATED INTO THE CURRENT GEOPROCESSING.

FOR THE PRE MAGISTRATION CASE REVIEW, WE ARE IDENTIFYING THE 90 DAY PLAN WILL IDENTIFY THE MINIMUM STAGES AND TIME THAT MUST BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO MAGISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THAT DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE AND MAGISTRATES HAVE A THOROUGH CASE REVIEW BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE PROCESS. BEXAR COUNTY. IT IS ALSO TESTING LAPTOP AND TABLET USE, AS WELL AS WI-FI UPGRADES THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY FOR THE SATELLITE OFFICE. IDENTIFYING A LIST OF ELIGIBLE CASES FOR PROCESSING AND DIVERSION.

ESTABLISHING A PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN TO ACCELERATE THE USE OF THIS FACILITY, AND BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ESTABLISHING A FAST TRACK IN AN OUT DESK FOR LOW RISK CASES TO EXPEDITE THAT PROCESSING, AS WELL AS EXPLORING OPTIONS TO IMPROVE THE OPENING AND CLOSING OF THE DOORS BEYOND THE SHORT TERM PLAN. OFFICE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE WILL OVERSEE A 90 DAY ACTION PLAN, WILL OVERSEE THE 90 DAY ACTION PLAN, AND WILL OVERSEE A PLAN TO IMPLEMENT SUSTAINED CHANGE BEYOND THE 90 DAY ACTION PLAN.

FOCUS ALSO ON ADDRESSING DUAL MAGISTRATION, INCLUDING ESTABLISHING MONTHLY MEETINGS TO PROMOTE COLLABORATION.

AS JIA AS THE MAIN HUB BETWEEN CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY.

I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS, AS WELL AS A SPECIAL THANKS TO SHERIFF SALAZAR JIA, DIRECTOR TONY CACERES, CAPTAIN ANDRE MONTAIGNE, DOCTOR G AND LETICIA MORENO FOR THE SUPPORT THAT MADE THIS POSSIBLE.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AS MY EMAIL IS THERE.

LET ME, LET ME LET ME LEAD OFF. FIRST. THANK YOU.

YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO CAME AND DID A PERSONAL BRIEFING WITH MY TEAM.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MOODY AND HIS TEAM, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE TEAM, WAS IN THE OFFICE TO GO OVER THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU JUST GAVE. I OPEN WITH REMARKS LIKE I'M OPENING TODAY.

THAT SAID, DOCTOR TESTA, I WORKED IN THIS MAGISTRATION SYSTEM NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO AS A ROOKIE PROSECUTOR, AND IT WAS A VERY PAPER. IT WAS TOTALLY PAPER DRIVEN BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TECHNOLOGY, AND IT WAS VERY PERSONALITY DRIVEN WITH OBVIOUSLY THE EFFORTS OF EACH PERSON IN THE LINE, SO TO SPEAK, AS THIS PAPER IS PROCESSED TO THE TO THE SYSTEM.

AND I SAID, HAS THAT SYSTEM REALLY CHANGED? AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY NOW, WE HAVE WI-FI FOR THE PRETTY MUCH IT WAS YOUR ASSESSMENT THAT THAT IS STILL VERY PAPER DRIVEN AND VERY PERSONALITY DRIVEN, WHICH ULTIMATELY AFFECTS I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHY SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED? BUT YOU'VE HIT IT WITH THE FACT THAT THERE ARE LIABILITIES THAT CAN BE IMPOSED ON THE COUNTY AND THE CITY IN REGARDS TO THIS REGISTRATION SYSTEM, IN REGARDS TO HOW PEOPLE ARE TREATED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

CERTAINLY THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE LOCKED UP, VIOLENT OFFENDERS, REPEAT OFFENDERS, BUT THERE ARE ALSO LOW LEVEL OFFENDERS, TRAFFIC OFFENDERS, PERHAPS THAT NEED TO BE PROCESSED AND GET OUT OF OUR SYSTEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO I WANT FOR THE RECORD TODAY, IS IT YOUR ASSESSMENT THAT THERE ARE SOME REALLY QUICK WINS THAT WE CAN DO UNDER YOUR SHORT TERM PLANS, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN LONG ACTION PLANS THAT WILL REQUIRE BUDGETARY AMENDMENTS OR ADDITIONS, ESPECIALLY THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, THROUGH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A JAIL THAT NEEDS SOME UPGRADING IN REGARDS TO THE DOOR.

SO YOU'RE BASICALLY WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THAT, JUDGE, THERE'S A WORKFLOW THAT THE SYSTEM WHICH REQUIRES EVERYBODY TO COOPERATE.

AND I APPRECIATE AND APPLAUD THE SHERIFF. HE'S ALLOWED YOU ACCESS TO THE JAIL.

I BELIEVE YOU HAD ACCESS TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT SYSTEM.

YOU HAD ACCESS TO THE ASSISTANT DA'S. YOU HAD ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S.

YOU HAD ACCESS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THIS SYSTEM WORK AS BEST AS IT CAN.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE INCUMBENT UPON THIS COURT, THIS LEADERSHIP HERE IN THIS COURT, TO MAKE AND SUPPORT THOSE DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS YOU MAKE IN ORDER THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.

AND BOTTOM LINE IS SAVE SOME TAXPAYER MONEY SO THAT WE JUST DON'T KEEP ADDING MONEY FOR WHATEVER ISSUES COME UP AND WE'RE REACTIVE.

THIS IS A PROACTIVE WAY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF THE JAIL.

IS THAT A CORRECT ASSESSMENT OF WHAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THE COURT TODAY? YES, SIR. YOUR ASSESSMENT IS CORRECT, AND WE BELIEVE THE 90 DAY ACTION PLAN WOULD ALLOW SOME QUICK FIXES TO EFFICIENCY,

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WHICH WOULD SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY AND ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.

AND ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU SAID, SOME OF THE CORE ISSUES DO LIE ON THINGS SUCH AS RELYING ON A HEAVILY PAPER BASED SYSTEM WHICH CREATES INEFFICIENCIES AS WELL AS PERSONALITIES MAY BE CONFLICTING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, REVOLVES AROUND SOME SOME LONG TERM OVERSIGHT AND COMMITMENT TOWARDS A CENTRALIZED GOAL. THOSE THINGS ARE A BIT LONG TERM, BUT WE CAN MAKE EFFICIENCIES HAPPEN IN THE SHORT TERM AND WORK TOWARDS THOSE LONG TERM GOALS WITH THE PROPER DEDICATION, OVERSIGHT. AND MY TEAM ALERTED YOU THAT WE HAD A PUBLIC SAFETY ACTION TEAM THAT WAS CREATED THAT HAD ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT IN FACT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS AN INTENTIONAL, HAD MUCH OVERLAP AND HAS IDENTIFIED THE SAME ISSUES SUCH AS DOUBLE REGISTRATION, AND HAS MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THERE. SO THIS THE FINDINGS THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO US TODAY ARE REALLY DEEP ROOTED.

THERE'S NOTHING NEW. THERE IS NO SURPRISES TO NO ONE IN THIS ROOM ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT OUR BEXAR COUNTY JAIL.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS A VERY NARROW FOCUS OF THE MAGISTRATION PEOPLE BEING PROCESSED, PRESUMED INNOCENT. I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S STILL A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THAT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN AWAY.

AND SO WE HAVE A DUTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RESPECTFUL AND FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THOSE THAT ARE BEING PROCESSED THROUGH OUR JAIL.

AND THAT IS PROBLEMATIC EVEN AT THIS TIME. CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. YOU THE FLOOR COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THANK YOU. JUDGE, WILL THIS RESOLVE THE CITY'S ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH DUAL REGISTRATION? HOW DO YOU KNOW? AND BY WHEN TO TO RESOLVE THE CITY'S ISSUES WITH THE DUAL REGISTRATION.

WE IN THE PROPOSED PLAN. SO THIS REQUIRES THE COOPERATION OF THE CITY, WHICH I THINK REQUIRES AS WAS DONE WITH THE WITH THE CITY COUNTY PLAN THAT THE, THE JUDGE REFERENCED THE PROPER STAKEHOLDERS TO BE BROUGHT TOGETHER TO REMEDY THIS.

THE DUAL REGISTRATION SYSTEM HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.

TOO LONG, IN MY OPINION. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE MOVING QUICKLY TO TO REMEDY IT.

ALTHOUGH IT TAKES BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY TO COME ON THE SAME PAGE, THE PROPOSALS WE HAVE AS AN IMMEDIATE PLAN TO MOVE TOWARD A VIRTUAL REGISTRATION, WHICH WILL, OFF THE BAT, REMOVE SOME OF THE INEFFICIENT REDUNDANCIES IF THAT'S ACCEPTED BY THE CITY AND ALL THE TOOLS ARE IN PLACE MOVING TOWARD A CENTRALIZED FACILITY. WE'D LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN AS FAST AS AS POSSIBLE, SIR.

I WISH I CAN GIVE YOU A TIMELINE. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS GOING TO RELY ON THE THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE DECISION MAKERS ON THAT TO COME TOGETHER.

AND I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THAT, TO CONTINUE TO WORK, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AS PART OF YOUR RESEARCH, TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT THE CITY'S CONCERNS WERE.

THE, THE THE TASK OF THIS WAS TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

I WILL CAVEAT THAT THE CITY, WHILE AS THE JUDGE CORRECTLY POINTED OUT, ALL COUNTY AGENCIES WERE VERY WILLING TO WORK WITH ME AND GIVE OPEN ACCESS.

HOWEVER, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DID NOT PERMIT ME TO ACCESS THEIR FACILITY.

AS WELL AS THEY WOULD NOT COOPERATE WITH SPEAKING WITH THEIR THEIR STAKEHOLDERS.

SO I DO NOT HAVE THE FULL PICTURE OF THAT DUE TO A LACK OF COOPERATION ON THEIR END.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE STUDY. I APPRECIATE THE TIME HE TOOK TO WALK ME THROUGH IT THE OTHER DAY WITH THE THE JUDGE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT INSIGHTS TO BE GLEANED FROM, FROM THIS REPORT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FIRST STEP, UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE AND KIND OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING, THOUGH HERE IS THAT WE FIGURE OUT THE ACTION PLAN, LIKE WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, I KNOW SOME OF THE LONGER TERM ACTIONS MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL BUDGETARY ITEMS. COORDINATION WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. ET CETERA.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO HOLD BACK ON SOME OF THESE SHORT TERM, THESE QUICK WINS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.

AND I HOPE WE CAN GO FORWARD QUICKLY, IMPROVE THIS PROCESS, TAKE THOSE QUICK WINS, AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE LONGER TERM ACTIONS AS A COURT WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE CITY GOING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. DOC, THANK YOU FOR THE THE REPORT.

AND I KIND OF AGREE. I THINK I'M LOOKING AT SHERIFF, I THINK 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO.

AND TONY WAS THERE. WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO TO TO TO KIND OF I GUESS MODERNIZE THE THE WAY

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WE MAGISTRATE FOLKS. AND I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME EASIER SOLUTION THAT FOR SOME REASON YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

PART OF IT I KNOW IS THE PHYSICAL PLANT, BUT ALSO PROCESSES AND PERSONALITIES, AS YOU MENTIONED.

AND SO I HOPE THAT'S ONE WHEN WE LOOK AT LOW HANGING FRUIT AND WHAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR ACTION PLAN SOME MONTHLY MEETINGS.

I HOPE THAT DOESN'T TAKE A YEAR. I THINK, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND MAYBE IT IS PARTIALLY THE TECHNOLOGY THAT DRIVES IT.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS, AS I OBSERVED, COMPLETELY INEFFICIENT AND I THINK EMBARRASSING, FRANKLY, WHEN YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN TO TAXPAYERS AND OUR CONSTITUENTS HOW BOTH CITY AND COUNTY RESOURCES ARE BEING UTILIZED.

SO THANK YOU FOR FOR THIS. AGAIN, IT'S ENLIGHTENING, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DID NOT KNOW WITH RESPECT TO THAT, THAT ISSUE. AND SO IF YOU CAN HELP US WORK THROUGH THAT, I KNOW YOU KNOW, TONY AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT, SO WE APPRECIATE IT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT I THINK THERE IS A WILL TO GET THAT DONE.

AND WE JUST GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS.

RIGHT. AND SO KEEP US POSTED. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE CONVENING THOSE MEETINGS, BUT I THINK IT'D BE INSTRUCTIVE FOR US TO PUT ANY RESOURCES WE CAN TO TRY AND GET THAT RESOLVED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO I'M COMMITTED TO HELPING WHEREVER I CAN. THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. YEAH. SO, DOCTOR TESTA, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

DOCTOR G, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DID ON THIS.

A LOT OF IT. WE KNEW A LOT OF IT. I, I ASSUMED WE WERE DOING.

I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND OUT WE WEREN'T. AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE.

ABOUT THE WASTE OF TIME, THE WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, THE WASTE OF PERSONNEL, THE WASTE OF INMATES CONFUSION AND FAMILIES CALLING OUR OFFICES TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I KNOW Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN PERSONALITIES. THAT'S THAT'S NICE. THAT'S A NICE WAY TO PUT IT. SHERIFF SALAZAR, CAN YOU STEP FORWARD TO PLEASE. BECAUSE YOU'RE A HUGE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

HOW DO WE GET THERE TO NOT BE A DOUBLE MAGISTRATE SYSTEM WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY IN WASTING TIME AND CONFUSING PEOPLE AND ERRORS? DOCTOR TESTA, YOU SAID THAT THE CITY WASN'T LETTING YOU SEE STUFF.

THAT'S. THAT'S CORRECT. SO EVERYTHING'S PAID BY COUNTY DOLLARS, OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS.

SO UNLESS YOU GOT SOMETHING TO HIDE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE NOT ALLOWING US TO SEE STUFF.

SO HOW DO WE. HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO ABOUT THAT? HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN, SHERIFF? COMMISSIONER, I THINK, RESPECTFULLY, I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM THAT THIS IS THE BEST WAY MOVING FORWARD. I KNOW THAT I SO I'VE MET MY COUNTERPART ON THIS ISSUE IS, OF COURSE, CHIEF MCMANUS.

I KNOW WHAT HIS CONCERNS ARE WITH THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN I WAS WHEN I WORKED FOR HIM, I SAT NEXT TO HIM AT THE TABLE WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO MY PREDECESSOR, THE PREVIOUS SHERIFF.

AND SO NEXT THING I KNOW, I'M SITTING ACROSS THE TABLE FROM HIM, SO. AND HIS HIS CONCERNS REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED.

I'M ON BOARD WITH HIS CONCERNS. I MEAN, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW ONE OF HIS PRIORITIES IS TO GET HIS COPS BACK OUT ON THE STREET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO AVOID DELAYS IN RESPONSE TIMES.

TRUST ME, THAT'S THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS CREATE THAT PROBLEM FOR HIM, FOR HIS TROOPS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, FOR THE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE THERE, BUT THERE'S SOME, SOME THINGS, SOME THINGS WE CAN DO AND SOME THINGS WE CAN'T.

FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THAT ONE OF HIS CONCERNS IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING IN IN OUR SALLY PORT TO ALLOW ENOUGH OF HIS OFFICERS TO COME IN AND PROCESS.

THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT INCREASING PARKING.

WHAT I CAN DO, THOUGH, AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING I'M WILLING TO DO. AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, IS THAT ESPECIALLY NOW, SINCE OUR OUR STAFFING IS GOING THE RIGHT WAY WITH REGARD TO STAFFING, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T MIND DOING SOME IMAGINATIVE THINGS AS FAR AS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, CURBSIDE SERVICE.

SO IF IF AN SAPD OFFICER COMES IN AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A PEAK TIME AND THE SALLY PORT IS FULL, SEND ONE OF OUR DEPUTIES OUT TO GRAB THAT THAT PRISONER FROM, TAKE THEM OFF HIS HANDS AND SAY, HEY, LOOK, PARKING IS FULL. GO FIND PARKING. BUT WE GOT YOUR PERSON HERE.

GO FIND PARKING, WRITE YOUR REPORT, AND WHATEVER YOUR PERSON IS HERE, THEY'RE SECURE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START SEARCHING THEM AND START THE BOOKING PROCESS. I DON'T MIND DOING STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS A HINDRANCE TO, TO BE ACCURATE, RIGHT, FOR PEOPLE NOT TO MAKE CLERICAL ERRORS ALL THE GOING BACK AND FORTH.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S A WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. IT'S A WASTE OF PERSONNEL. IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T DO THIS.

YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. SURE. THE HEAD OF POLICE IS NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

SO DOES HE NOT DO WHAT HIS ELECTED OFFICIALS TELL HIM TO DO AS STAFF?

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WELL, I MEAN, IS THERE AN ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING? WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET THIS DONE? LIKE, THIS IS RIDICULOUS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS. THANK YOU. THAT WE NOW HAVE SURE. YOU KNOW, STATS AND ACADEMIC RESEARCH THAT MAYBE SOMEONE WILL LISTEN TO.

SO. SO THE CHIEF OF POLICE ANSWERS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WHO'S ALSO NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

RIGHT. BUT AND I CERTAINLY ALL I CAN DO IS ASSURE THEM THAT I'M GOING TO DO MY VERY BEST.

THAT IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN, IF WE WERE TO END THE DOUBLE REGISTRATION, I'M GOING TO DO MY VERY BEST TO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IT RUNS AS SMOOTHLY AS THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO, TO TO GO. I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO DO THAT.

I'VE PLEDGED THAT BEFORE TO THEM A BUNCH OF TIMES.

I'LL CONTINUE TO SAY IT. I'M SAYING IT TODAY.

WE WILL CERTAINLY DO OUR PART, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THEM TO MAKE THAT DECISION THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE ENOUGH WITH THE FACILITY AND OUR PROCESSES.

SO THAT CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, IT WOULD BE THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER, ANY COMBINATION. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD START WORKING ON. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SHERIFF. COMMISSIONER, IF I COULD FOLLOW YOUR STATEMENTS OF WHAT'S GOING TO THE NEXT STEP FOR AT LEAST WITH ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE DOUBLE REGISTRATION, I WILL PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THE DOUBLE REGISTRATION ISSUE HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING ISSUE OF DISCUSSION AND DEBATE, AND IT IS, AS YOU HAVE PUT OUT, IT HAS BEEN BASICALLY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY UNABLE TO COME TO A RESOLUTION.

NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, SINCE I BECOME COUNTY JUDGE, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES IN MY FIRST YEAR WAS THE ISSUE OF THE REPEAT VIOLENT OFFENDERS SHOOTING AT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND HAVING AGAIN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY ELECTED OFFICE, AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAVING DISCUSSIONS TOWARDS EACH OTHER ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.

AS A RESULT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT I THINK NEEDED TO STOP BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY TO POINT FINGERS, I PUT A PUBLIC ACTION COMMITTEE TOGETHER OF ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.

DOUBLE REGISTRATION WAS BROUGHT UP AND IT WAS DISCUSSED AND AGAIN WAS DEBATED.

AND AS A RESULT OF THE POSITION THAT THE CITY TOOK IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE YOU OF REPEAT OFFENDERS BEING LET OUT OF THE JAIL BECAUSE OF WHATEVER VARIED REASONS.

I BACKED OFF ON DOUBLE REGISTRATION. I WILL ASSURE THE COURT THAT I WILL TAKE THIS ISSUE TO THE PUBLIC ACTION COMMITTEE THAT IS ASSISTED BY MY DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, CYNTHIA KOS.

THAT REPORT HAS BEEN PUT OUT, AND IF YOU'LL NOTE, I DO BELIEVE THE REGISTRATION SYSTEM WAS MENTIONED BUT DID NOT GO BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET THAT REPORT OUT. SO THERE HAS BEEN MUCH WORK DONE AND THERE'S BEEN MUCH MORE WORK THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO DATE.

AND SO I INTEND AND IN FACT, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BEING WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND I BELIEVE THE MAYOR WAS IN THAT MEETING, WAS THAT I INTENDED TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AS COUNTY JUDGE.

AND I AM GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON MY PROMISE THAT WE DEAL WITH THIS.

AND SO I'M LOOKING AT EVERYBODY HERE THAT IS EITHER AT THE PODIUM OR IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS THING RESOLVED, BUT IT WILL BE RESOLVED BY EVERYBODY COMING TO THE TABLE HAVING A THOROUGH DISCUSSION.

AND AS YOU INDICATED, COMMISSIONER, WE WILL HAVE TO THEN TAKE IT TO THE VARIOUS ELECTED BODIES.

I AM HOPEFUL AND EXPECTANT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IS GOING TO SUPPORT ME, IN ME TRYING TO DEAL WITH MANY ISSUES, INCLUDING ELIMINATING THE DOUBLE REGISTRATION, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.

AT THE SAME TIME, I'M EXPECTING THEM, OUR COUNTERPARTS AT CITY HALL, TO DO THE SAME.

I AM CONFIDENT AND OPTIMISTIC THAT REASONABLE MINDS WILL COME TO A RESOLUTION, AND I WILL DO MY VERY BEST TO DO THAT WITHOUT INCURRING ALL THE COSTS ON THE COUNTY. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM ASKING THE COURT.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY DOCTOR TESTA, YOUR REPORT IS BASED SOLELY ON YOUR ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE, YOUR ACADEMIC EXPERTISE, AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE A HIRED GUN BY THE COUNTY OR BY ANYBODY ELSE TO MAKE A REPORT THAT PEOPLE SORT TO DO, WHICH OFTEN HAPPENS IN LITIGATION.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. YOU'RE NOT WHAT WE CALL A HIRED GUN.

NO NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY. RIGHT. AND SO YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FIRMLY ENTRENCHED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, THE LAW AND WHAT THIS GOOD GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE.

RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO I JUST WANT WE CAN KIND OF KEEP HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

I WILL ASK THE COURT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROCESS UNDER PUBLIC ACTION COMMITTEE.

AND WE HAVE BEEN MEETING, IN FACT, DOCTOR GREENFIELD AND ME ASK YOU COME FORWARD GREENFIELD LABORDI,

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THAT IN REGARDS TO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF ELECTRONIC BONDS? YES. OUR BONDS LITERALLY ARE PAPER BONDS THAT GO BACK AND FORTH BY COURIER OR PEOPLE LITERALLY, AND IT'S HANDED OFF AND THEN IT'S LITERALLY PROCESSED IN.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE BONDSMAN IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE BUY IN. WE ARE NOW REALLY SHORT OF GETTING THE E BOND.

SO GIVE US A REPORT OF WHAT MY COMMITTEE, ALONG WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE FROM YOUR OFFICE, DID IN REGARDS TO ONE OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS. YES, SIR. WE WE WORKED, WE'RE WORKING WITH BCIT.

WE HAD TO WORK WITH THEM FOR OUR SCOPE OF WORK AND TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION.

TONY CASARES WAS VERY HELPFUL IN THIS AS WELL.

AND WITH SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD ALSO WITH YOUR STAFF, JUDGE AND WE ARE IT SHOULD BE GOING OUT.

I BELIEVE I RECEIVED SOMETHING FROM PURCHASING THAT THE RFP HAS BEEN RELEASED, AND ONCE WE ALREADY HAVE OUR COMMITTEE TEAM TO SCORE AND TO MEET WITH THEM AND TO ASK QUESTIONS. AND THEN ONCE WE SCORE, WE SHOULD.

IF WE STAY ON THE TIMELINE THAT I KNOW YOU WANT IT, SIR, WE SHOULD BE BRINGING IT BACK, BRINGING IT BACK TO COMMISSIONERS COURT IN MAY.

SO. SO THAT'S ONE WIN WE CAN PUT ON THE BOOKS.

YES, SIR. AND SO THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS TO GO THROUGH OUR NEW PURCHASING AGENT.

CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO YOUR PERSONNEL YOU'RE ALERTED.

WE GOT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE FAST SOONER THAN LATER.

YES. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE TEAM THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT, BECAUSE I DID ASK THEM TO PLEASE EXPEDITE IT BECAUSE WE WERE ON A ON A TIMELINE AND THEY HAVE DONE THAT, WHICH I'M GLAD. SO HOPEFULLY, LIKE I SAID, AND IF I COULD LET ME BRING UP TONY CASILLAS.

RIGHT, TONY, COME ON UP HERE. YOU WORK AT THE JAIL, YOU HAVE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THE YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THE PROBLEMS OF WHY WE HAVE THIS DOUBLE MAGISTRATION. DO YOU HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO REALLY UNPACK THIS CURRENT PROCESS AND PUT IN A COST EFFICIENT, INCLUDING SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THE SHERIFF HAS MADE IN REGARDS TO.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE DRIVE UP SERVICE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

WHICH MAY BE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THIS THING DONE.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT FROM YOUR EXPERTISE AS TO HOW WE GET THINGS STRAIGHTENED OUT? YOU KNOW, JUDGE, WE GOT THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE AND I THINK WE COULD MAKE IT.

WE COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN AS LONG AS WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO.

RIGHT. SO YOU I NEED YOUR VOICE IN THE ROOM TELLING US WHAT IS GOING ON IN THAT JAIL.

ANOTHER ISSUE. SHERIFF, LET ME BRING YOU UP. IT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE, BUT IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT.

AND THAT'S THE INTEGRATION OF UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL SYSTEM, CHC CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES IN REGARDS TO THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND FOR MEDICAL SERVICES. THAT'S ANOTHER AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

AND I BELIEVE ED BANOS, THE CEO OF US, IS IN FACT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE NEARLY 300 US EMPLOYEES WORKING IN THE JAIL 24 OVER SEVEN, AND THAT NUMBER IS ASTOUNDING TO ME.

SO I WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY EFFICIENCIES THERE THAT WE CAN BOOST OR WHATEVER DIVERSION.

AND THAT'S I THINK, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK THROUGH OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AS TO SEE WHAT DIVERSION PROGRAMS. SO DO YOU HAVE THE ARE YOU I BELIEVE YOU AND ED BENES ARE VERY INVOLVED, BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN YOU AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND, AND SOME OF THE CITIES THAT ARE BRINGING THEIR PRISONERS IN IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE MEDICAL ISSUES.

YES, SIR, IS ANOTHER BIG ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

BUT THAT'S NOT UP BEFORE THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME.

YES. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICKLY? YES, SIR.

ABSOLUTELY. LET ME JUST SAY ED BANOS HAS BEEN A GODSEND.

NOT THAT GEORGE GEORGE WAS GREAT TO WORK WITH.

ABSOLUTELY. BUT ED HAS JUST BEEN HE'S HE'S ALWAYS A PHONE CALL AWAY.

JUST YESTERDAY. STOP HIDING IN THE BACK. WE SEE YOU.

COME UP HERE. COME ON. I'M SINGING YOUR PRAISES.

I WROTE A SONG ABOUT YOU. COME ON UP. NO. EDITOR.

FOR EXAMPLE, YESTERDAY I TOUCHED BASE WITH HIM BECAUSE WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT THE MEASLES OUTBREAKS THAT ARE GOING ON.

AND I ASKED HIM, WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE DOING? HE SAYS, I'M ALL OVER IT.

I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON HOW IT SHAKES OUT. BUT YES, EDITOR AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON YOU KNOW, TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING CERTAIN PEOPLE WITH CERTAIN MEDICAL CONDITIONS AND ADDICTIONS AND WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS OUT OF THE JAIL POPULATION UNTIL THEY'VE BEEN PROPERLY VETTED BY A PHYSICIAN.

EDITOR HAS NOT ONLY STREAMLINED THAT PROCESS FOR US AT THE ON HIS SIDE OF THINGS AT THE HOSPITAL, WHEN A FIRST RESPONDER GETS DIVERTED TO THE HOSPITAL, GETTING THAT FIRST RESPONDER BACK TO US AND AGAIN SO THEY CAN GET BACK OUT ON THE STREET.

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BUT HE'S ALSO LOOKING AT SOME POSSIBILITIES OF ACTUALLY ASSIGNING SOME MEDICAL PERSONNEL SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PURPOSE, SO THAT WHEN WE DIVERT SOMEBODY, WE'RE NOT DIVERTING THEM TO THE HOSPITAL AT THE MEDICAL CENTER, WE'RE DIVERTING THEM TO THE NEXT ROOM WHERE ONE OF ONE OF THESE PHYSICIANS CAN LOOK AT THEM.

SO IT'S JUST BEEN, AS I MENTIONED, A BREATH OF FRESH AIR IN THAT HE'S VERY INNOVATIVE ON ON SOME OF HIS APPROACHES AND GIVE US A QUICK REVIEW OF WHAT US WANTS TO DO IN REGARDS TO THE JAIL. WELL, AGAIN, A LOT THAT THE SHERIFF HAS MENTIONED IS I THINK IT'S ALL IN THE FRONT END PROCESS.

WE WANT THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE JAIL, BE AS HEALTHY WHEN THEY GO INTO THE JAIL, AND THE ONES THAT ARE NOT AS HEALTHY AS THEY CAN BE IN THE JAIL BE EITHER GETTING TREATED AT THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION IN THE JAIL OR OUTSIDE OF THE JAIL.

AND IT ALL STARTS WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN AND THEIR SCREENING.

WE DO PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES AT CMAG WITH THE CITY AND DOING THAT, AND I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND BEING LOOKED AT.

I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF DUPLICATE PROCESSES.

WE SEE IT IN THE MEDICAL AS WELL. I THINK INTEGRATING OUR IT SYSTEMS AND MAKING SURE, BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE MEDICAL AND WE CAN HAVE MEDICAL TRACKING AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE GOING ON. I'M SURE THAT THAT PROCESS, AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE WINNING PEOPLE TO BE RELEASED OR CAN BE RELEASED OUT OF THE JAIL, BUT THEY HAVE ALL THE MEDICINE AND ALL THE MEDICAL THAT THEY NEED SO THAT THEY CAN BE RELEASED.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION THAT GOES THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE WOULD LIKE.

SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT THE GROUP IN FRONT HAVE TALKED ABOUT, AND I THINK WE CAN BE A BIG PART OF THAT AS WELL TO TRY AND MAKE THAT PROCESS.

WHEN ANYONE LEAVES THE JAIL, LEAVES THE JAIL SAFELY AND CAN GET INTO THE RIGHT PROGRAMS. BUT WE ALSO KNOW INTERNALLY, BEFORE THEY GET IN, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE HEALTHIEST THEY CAN BE WHEN THEY GET IN.

ANY QUESTION? COMMISSIONER MOODY? AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO OTHER AGENDA ITEMS HERE TODAY THAT ALSO TOUCH ON THIS, SO I'M NOT NOT SURE HOW FAR TO GO DOWN THE ROAD HERE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROCESS VERSUS KIND OF THE, THE REAL ESTATE AND SPACE TO, TO BE ABLE TO EFFICIENTLY RUN EVERYONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MEDICAL SIDE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AND PART OF THE SACHSE STUDY BROUGHT UP AN ANNEX THAT COULD HAVE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE, MAYBE A FLOOR OR TWO DEVOTED TO MEDICAL AND OR MENTAL HEALTH THAT WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR FOR THAT PROCESS AND ALSO ALLOW FOR ELIMINATING OR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE BACK AND FORTH WITH, WITH HOSPITAL AND TRANSIT AND EVERYTHING.

IS THAT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH OF YOU ON THAT.

YES, SIR. LOOK, WE'VE GOT. I DON'T THINK THAT AT THIS.

AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK THAT BUILDING ON MORE JAIL SPACE OR ADDING, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT JAIL.

WELL, IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE A NEW FACILITY. I JUST THINK IT'S A PIPE DREAM. I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GOING TO HAPPEN. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT BUILDING ANOTHER TOWER IS NECESSARILY THE ANSWER, BECAUSE IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE GOT IS WE'VE GOT AN OVERRELIANCE ON JAIL SPACE TO FIX THINGS THAT OTHER FOLKS SHOULD BE FIXING.

THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE MENTAL HEALTH BEDS. THERE ARE NONE.

AND SO WE GET WE GET SADDLED WITH THOSE FOLKS.

AND IT'S NOT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FAIR TO THOSE CONSUMERS THAT NEED TO BE GETTING MENTAL HEALTH HELP.

THERE'S THERE'S AN OVERRELIANCE ON US TO FIX THE DRUG ADDICTION PROBLEM.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH REHAB BEDS. AND SO AGAIN, THOSE FOLKS END UP WITH US WHERE THEY'RE NOT GETTING AS ADEQUATE TREATMENT AS WHAT THEY WOULD GET AT A DEVOTED FACILITY. TDC NEEDS TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PICKING UP THEIR FOLKS.

I CERTAINLY CAN CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM IN THAT THEY'VE GOT BED SPACE ISSUES.

THEY'VE GOT STAFFING ISSUES. TRUST ME ON THAT.

THEY'RE PREACHING TO THE CONVERTED ON THAT. BUT AGAIN, WE'VE GOT ANY AT ANY GIVEN TIME 2 TO 300 FOLKS THAT SHOULD BE IN IN A STATE PRISON.

IF YOU WERE TO JUST TAKE JUST THOSE THREE CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE OUT, I WOULDN'T HAVE A BED SPACE PROBLEM.

I WOULDN'T HAVE AN OVERTIME PROBLEM. AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GO ON ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS OF INCARCERATING THOSE THAT NEED TO BE INCARCERATED, NOT THOSE THAT ARE THERE SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO SEND THEM TO.

I WOULD AGREE. I THINK THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE PEOPLE LOCATED AT OTHER FACILITIES.

I THINK THE SACHSE REUSE ANALYSIS WAS A GOOD ONE, THAT THERE IS A POPULATION IN THE JAIL THAT COULD BE USED IN, IN RESTORATION. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF RECIDIVISM IN THE JAIL THAT IF THEY GO OUT, THEY'RE COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE OUTPATIENT SERVICES OR TREATMENTS.

AND SOME OF THAT IS EITHER MENTAL HEALTH AND OR IT COULD BE HOUSING OR OTHER THINGS.

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AND WE KNOW THAT SOCIAL SERVICES COULD DO A LOT WITH THAT.

SO I DO FROM A FROM THE MEDICAL SIDE, I WILL SAY WE DO THE BEST WE CAN IN THE INFIRMARY, IN THE JAIL.

AND I WOULD DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT WITH THE SHERIFF IN THE SENSE OF EFFICIENCY IN THE JAIL FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT IS HARDER FOR US BECAUSE IT'S VERY SPREAD OUT AND IT'S HARD TO HAVE. WE HAVE WE PROVIDE IN THE INFIRMARY, WE PROVIDE DIALYSIS SERVICES, SOME MORE COMPLEX SERVICES, BUT WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING MEDS AND TREATMENT AND OTHERS ALL ACROSS ALL THE BLOCKS OF THE JAIL.

SO FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT ONLY, I WOULD SAY IT'S VERY HARD WHEN YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF DOCTORS AND NURSES AND OTHERS AND THEY'RE HAVING TO GO ACROSS SUCH A LARGE REAL ESTATE IN A VERY SECURE PLACE WHERE IT'S HARD TO GET SOMEWHERE EASILY.

SO FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT THE SHERIFF SAYS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE OUT.

BUT FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SEEING MORE PEOPLE EFFICIENTLY.

IF THE IF WE WOULD HAVE SPACE THAT WOULD FLOW BETTER.

THAT'S. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FOLKS ARE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT WHAT THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS ARE AND SOLUTIONS ARE AND STUFF.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THOSE CONVERSATIONS NEED TO TAKE PLACE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THE OTHER DAY MR. BANOS AND COMING IN AND TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER ON THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR AT THE STATE IN TERMS OF THE SASH REUSE.

BUT I DO WANT TO JUST COME BACK TO TO YOUR COMMENTS ON SHERIFF.

WHEN IT COMES TO TDC, THOUGH, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE, RIGHT? TDC IS MEETING THE 45 DAY BAR. IF THEY WERE NOT, THEN I WOULD BE ADVOCATING MORE FORCEFULLY AT THE STATE.

BUT THEY'VE MET THAT BAR. NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED ON THAT FRONT.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME NUMBER. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? CORRECT. BUT BUT IN A PERFECT WORLD, I'D LIKE IT TO BE MUCH LESS THAN EVEN THE 45 DAYS.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU ASK ME, IF YOU ASKED ME, IS THE 45 DAYS ADEQUATE? WELL, STATE LAW SAYS THAT IT IS. I'M TELLING YOU, FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, I WISH IT WERE LESS.

WE'D IT WOULD LESSEN A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS. IT WOULD HELP.

THAT'S GIVEN I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE OUR PROBLEMS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE STILL HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT CAPACITY ISSUE BECAUSE I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE CHECKED, THE NUMBERS WERE STILL AT 5000. SO WE'RE WELL OVER 95%.

I MEAN, AS OF LAST WEEK, WE WERE OVER 50, 75, WHICH IS ACTUAL OUR CAPACITY OF THE JAIL, CORRECT? YES, SIR. WE'RE STILL HOUSING OUT IN OTHER COUNTIES.

OH, YEAH. THERE'S 150 OUT AT SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

AND THAT IS A ANNUALIZED COST OF $4 MILLION PER YEAR.

WE'VE DONE THE MATH ON THAT ONE. AND TRUST ME, NOBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT END MORE THAN ME.

I'VE GOT TO COME UP HERE AND EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE WHY WE'RE DOING CERTAIN THINGS. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN OVERALL, IN MY OPINION, WE'VE GOT AN OVERRELIANCE ON A JAIL TO FIX THINGS THAT OTHER PARTS OF THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE FIXING. YEAH. WELL, I AGREE THAT THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE SYSTEM THAT NEED TO BE FIXED, AND I STAND READY AND WILLING TO TRY TO WORK WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND WITH COUNTY STAFF IN ORDER TO TRY TO SOLVE THOSE.

I DO STILL THINK THAT LONG TERM, WE'RE STILL A GROWING COUNTY, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL SPACE OVER THE COMING DECADE. AND THESE PROJECTS TAKE YEARS AND YEARS, ACTUALLY DECADE PROBABLY TO TO COMPLETION.

SO WE CAN WE CAN TOUCH ON THE SACHSE REUSE STUDY A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE GET TO THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.

BUT AGAIN, THAT SPEAKS TO THE MENTAL HEALTH BEDS.

RIGHT. AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO TO REMOVE THAT PIECE OUT OF, OUT OF THE JAIL? WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK TO TDC, BUT THE, THE THE MEDICAL SIDE, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, ED JUST BROUGHT UP THAT THERE IS A NEED TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY THERE WHEN IT COMES TO MEDICAL CARE AT THE JAIL.

AND, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, TOO, BEING SO CONSTRAINED ON CAPACITY.

AND I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME AND DAN CURRY IS NOT IN THE ROOM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO RENOVATE THE JAIL.

AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO STARE US IN THE FACE OVER THE COMING YEAR AND BEYOND.

BECAUSE WE CAN'T SHUT DOWN A WING TODAY. CORRECT? CORRECT. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY EVEN THERE'S SOME SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT DAN CURRIE WANTED TO MAKE.

AND WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO WAS HAVE US, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THIS AREA AND MOVE ALL THE INMATES TO THIS OTHER AREA AND THEN START AND THEN LEAPFROG THROUGH THE FACILITY. WE DON'T HAVE THE EMPTY BEDS TO MOVE THOSE PEOPLE INTO TO ALLOW FOR THESE,

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FOR THESE RENOVATIONS. YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A IN A PERFECT WORLD, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALWAYS WELL, WHY DON'T YOU JUST BUILD A NEW JAIL? WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE BILLIONS WITH A B TO DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE WE A FEW YEARS AGO, SEVERAL YEARS BACK, WE WENT, I THINK THEY SAID THE ANNEX WAS GOING TO BE 280, THOUGH, RIGHT? IF THERE WAS JUST ANOTHER WING FROM THE SASH STUDY, THEY SAID 280 WOULD BE ONE ONE ADDITIONAL ANNEX, ANOTHER ANNEX FOR JUST FOR MENTAL HEALTH. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I MEAN, THAT'D BE GREAT. AN ADDITIONAL 280 BEDS FOR FOR MENTAL HEALTH PURPOSES.

FOLKS THAT ARE OUT FROM WITHIN MY JAIL POPULATION, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY FREE UP A WHOLE LOT OF RESOURCES FOR US AND WOULD PROBABLY ELIMINATE OUR OVERTIME ISSUES, AS IT WERE. BUT AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S SEVERAL YEARS IN THE MAKING.

WELL I JUST, I JUST HOPE AND AGAIN THE I DON'T BELIEVE THE DA IS WITH US HERE TODAY, BUT THERE'S CLEARLY A PART OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND SOME ISSUES THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUALS AWAITING INDICTMENT.

SITTING IN THE JAIL, I KNOW WE'RE WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE DATA ON THAT FRONT.

BUT ULTIMATELY TO YOUR POINT, RIGHT, IF WE CAN EXPEDITE GETTING TO JUSTICE, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THOSE INMATES, WHETHER THAT'S A TRIP WITH TDC ACROSS THE STATE OR WHETHER THAT'S ULTIMATELY A RESOLUTION OF THEIR CASE, BUT BASED ON WHERE IT IS TODAY, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

SO I THINK ALL THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY FUNDAMENTALLY HAS TO WORK ON AND SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

AND THERE'S PROBABLY HYBRID SOLUTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT.

BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THE THE COMMENTS AND THE DISCUSSION.

YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER CALVERT. JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE VERY IMPORTANT STATEMENT THE SHERIFF MADE WITH RESPECT TO THE USE OF THE JAIL FOR THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE. I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU, SHERIFF, ON AN OP ED AND KIND OF A MEDIA CAMPAIGN TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO TO UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DO.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE POLICY OF, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK THAT THE COUNTY WE INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, A LOT, A LOT OF MONEY. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE OUR PARTNERS IN THE NEXT CITY BOND INCLUDE MENTAL HEALTH, HOUSING SO PEOPLE CAN GET THE REHAB THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'VE WE'VE WE EXECUTED THE MOST MONEY ON MENTAL HEALTH BEDS IN THE ARPA FUNDING.

AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THE REPORTS. WE HAD TO REVIEW THE CAPACITY, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

BUT THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT ONE OF THE AREAS IN WHICH THE COMMUNITY COULD SCORE A WIN IS TO EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF HOUSING IN THE BOND. THE HOUSING PORTION BOND TO INCLUDE FOR SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO ARE DOING LONG TERM MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING SO THAT THAT IS THAT IS A REALLY IT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT IS ABOUT CHANGING AMERICA TO A BEST PRACTICE WORLDWIDE SITUATION. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I WHEN I SAY THAT IN CODE.

BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T COMMUNICATE THESE THINGS TO THE PUBLIC WILL LINGER IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT WE COULD SOLVE TODAY, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 379 ACRES. I THINK THAT WE OWN OUT OFF OF SOUTHTOWN ROAD, WHERE WE HAVE LIFETIME RECOVERY, WHERE WE HAVE OUR CRIER AND OTHER ASSETS WHERE WE COULD BE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO FIGURE OUT.

COULD WE EXPAND BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT OPERATION EXCUSE ME, THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY COMMAND AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT NEARBY.

COULD WE EXPAND SOME OF THESE SERVICES WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS? WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF COUNSELORS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

BUT WHETHER IT'S THE HOMELESS WHO COME THROUGH YOUR JAIL AND TURNING THAT INTO A POTENTIAL TOWN, TWIN VILLAGE AREA, OR IF IT'S THE SUBSTANCE USE AND OTHER MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT ARE THERE, THAT'S A POTENTIAL LOCATION TO DEAL WITH THE OVERCROWDING AND THE MISUSE OF OUR JAILS.

SO I JUST WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS THERE WITH YOU, AND I THINK IT JUST REQUIRES ANOTHER LEVEL OF, OH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN TWO YEARS TO INCREASE THAT CAPACITY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE COUNTY TAKING THE THE MOVE FORWARD ON THE HOUSING.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I BELIEVE THAT WRAPS IT UP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

LET'S HOPEFULLY COME BACK WITH A FOLLOW UP REPORT.

DOCTOR GREENFIELD AND DOCTOR TESTA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENT REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT TIME. CERTAIN WE ARE RUNNING A BIT BEHIND PRESENTATION DISCUSSION REGARDING THE COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 2023

[4.c. 10:30 a.m. Presentation and discussion regarding the Collaborative Commission on Domestic Violence 2023 Statistical Data report]

STATISTICAL DATA REPORT. SO, JUDGE DIAZ, I SAW MARTHA PALACE IS IN THE ROOM.

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THERE SHE IS. I SEE MARIA VILLAGOMEZ. GOOD MORNING.

THERE WE ARE. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? OKAY. YES. THE WONDERFUL HAZEL BLACKETT IS HANDING YOU A COPY OF OUR STATISTICAL DATA REPORT.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT ALREADY. THANK YOU. HAZEL.

LET ME HAVE YOUR ORDER, PLEASE. THANK YOU. JUDGE DIAZ HAS THE FLOOR.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, JUDGE SAKAI.

MEMBERS OF THE COURT, I AM MONIQUE DIAZ, YOUR JUDGE OF THE 1/50 DISTRICT COURT AND YOUR PROUD COUNTY CO-CHAIR OF THE COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I'M JOINED BY MY WONDERFUL CO-CHAIR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, MARIA VILLAGOMEZ. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MANY OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CCTV AND IN THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMMUNITY ARE WITH US TODAY.

WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAN I WILL TAKE THE TIME TO MENTION BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A QUICK SCHEDULE, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE OUR DA HERE. WE'VE GOT JUDGE CHANDLER WITH THE FJC, PATRICIA CASTILLO, MARTA PELAEZ. WE'VE GOT FOLKS FROM UNIVERSITY HEALTH, FROM OUR NONPROFITS.

THE SHERIFF IS STILL HERE, I THINK SOMEWHERE.

THERE WE ARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THE WHOLE GANG IS HERE, AND WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PRESENT TO YOU ON OUR THIRD ANNUAL STATISTICAL DATA REPORT. PART OF WHAT WE COMPILE IN OUR STATISTICAL DATA REPORT IS THE NUMBER OF FAMILY VIOLENCE HOMICIDES THAT WE HAVE SADLY WITNESSED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS REPORT COVERS THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2023 AND FOR THE 33 LIVES OF WOMEN, MEN AND CHILDREN THAT WERE LOST IN 2023, WE WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU SHOULD HAVE A HARD COPY OF OUR DATA REPORT, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO CONTROL THE POWERPOINT.

LET ME SEE. THERE WE GO. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND OUR APPROACH.

WE WERE FORMED, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN 2019, BY THE HONORABLE JUDGE PETER SAKAI, BY A COURT ORDER WHEN HE WAS THEN LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE, AS OUR FIRST JOINT CITY COUNTY INITIATIVE, BRINGING TOGETHER ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND OUR COMMUNITY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, PROSECUTION, JUDICIARY, NONPROFITS, EDUCATIONAL AND HEALTH CARE INSTITUTIONS TO COMPREHENSIVELY IDENTIFY THE GAPS IN OUR SYSTEM'S RESPONSE TO AND PREVENTION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND TO IMPLEMENT EVIDENCE BASED STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THOSE GAPS.

WE IN 2019, VOTED AS A BODY TO ADOPT COMPONENTS OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S COMPREHENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN. SINCE THEN, WE HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S METROPOLITAN HEALTH DISTRICT IN THE CREATION OF THE THEIR NEW VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN. OUR MEMBERS WERE CRITICAL STAKEHOLDERS PROVIDING INPUT AND DATA TO DEVELOP THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PORTION OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN.

AND AS A GROUP, WE HAVE VOTED TO TAKE ON SOME OF THE GAPS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED THERE.

OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE'VE ALSO RECENTLY INTRODUCED A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ECOSYSTEM MODEL TO HELP ILLUSTRATE THE COMPLEX SYSTEM IN WHICH THE CCTV AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN BEXAR COUNTY OPERATE.

THIS ECOSYSTEM IS BEST ILLUSTRATED THROUGH STRATEGIES AND INTERVENTIONS THAT INFLUENCE FOUR DIFFERENT LEVELS, INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS AND RELATIONSHIPS, ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITIES, SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS, AND SOCIETAL AND CULTURAL. TO IMPROVE DV PREVENTION, RESPONSE AND SUPPORT, THE CCTV AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS COLLECTIVELY OPERATE IN EACH OF THOSE FOUR LEVELS. BUT BY DESIGN, THE CCTV FOCUS IS PRIMARILY ON AFFECTING CHANGE IN ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITIES AND SYSTEMS AND

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INSTITUTIONS. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPORT, AGAIN I MENTIONED THIS IS OUR THIRD ANNUAL STATISTICAL DATA REPORT.

WE PRIOR TO MOVING TO ANNUAL REPORTS, WE PROVIDED TWO QUARTERLY DATA REPORTS.

SO THIS IS THE FIFTH TOTAL DATA REPORT WE HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU.

THESE REPORTS HELP, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR COMMUNITY, COMPILE A WIDE ARRAY OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE STATISTICS AND DATA IN SAN ANTONIO AND IN BEXAR COUNTY. THIS ALLOWS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND OUR LEADERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW PATTERNS OF CHANGE AND COMPARE PREVIOUS YEARS OF DATA WITH CURRENT TRENDS.

THIS SPECIFIC REPORT IS COMPARING THE LAST THREE YEARS.

SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTED KEY AREAS WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER ARE A INCREASE IN COMMUNITY MEMBERS REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE THROUGH 211. WE'LL GO OVER LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSES TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICES AND SUPPORTS FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AS WELL. THIS SUPPOSED TO POINT SOMEWHERE IN PARTICULAR.

DOES NOT SEEM TO BE WORKING FOR ME. I JUST WANT TO TELL THE FOLKS UPSTAIRS TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE.

CAN SOMEBODY MAGIC PERSON UPSTAIRS ADVANCE THE SLIDE? OH, OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

ONE OF OUR DATA REPORT CONTRIBUTORS AND A MEMBER OF THE CDB IS THE CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES.

WE SAW IN 2023 THAT ONE FOURTH OF ADULTS AND CHILDREN THAT WERE SURVEYED BY CHCS FOR MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS REPORTED THAT THEY WITNESSED FAMILY VIOLENCE.

WE RECEIVED INPUT AND DATA FROM BCSO AND SAPD, AND YOU'LL FIND IN THE REPORT THAT THE NUMBER OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE REPORTS FILED WITH BCSO AND SAPD HAS REMAINED RELATIVELY THE SAME OR SIMILAR FOR THE YEARS 20 21, 22 AND 23.

AND AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR PRESENTATION, SADLY, THE NUMBER OF FAMILY VIOLENCE HOMICIDES INCREASED IN BEXAR COUNTY FROM 27IN 2022 TO 30 3 IN 2023. AS A COMMENT, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS GET ASKED THIS QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US ACROSS TEXAS? WHERE ARE WE RANKING? THE TEXAS COUNCIL ON FAMILY VIOLENCE PRODUCES THEIR OWN REPORT THAT DETAILS INTIMATE PARTNER DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOMICIDES EVERY YEAR.

THAT IS THE REPORT THAT WE COMMONLY REFERENCE TO IDENTIFY SORT OF WHERE WE ARE RANKED ACROSS TEXAS.

PER THEIR REPORT, WE HAVE RANKED THIRD PLACE, WHICH IS PRETTY CONSISTENT TO WHERE WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, FIRST PLACE BEING HARRIS COUNTY AND THE SECOND PLACE BEING DALLAS.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CDV IS SO IMPORTANT AND WHY THIS DATA REPORT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT WE EVALUATE AND PULL DATA NOT JUST ON INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE, HOMICIDES COMMITTED WITHIN A DATING RELATIONSHIP, OR BY STALKING, FOR EXAMPLE. WE ALSO LOOK TO OTHER FAMILY VIOLENCE HOMICIDES.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT A BROADER DEFINITION OF FAMILY VIOLENCE, THAT'S HOW WE'RE GETTING OUR NUMBER, WHICH IS 33, AS OPPOSED TO TCFD REPORT, YOU'LL SEE, SAYS 13 HOMICIDES.

THAT'S JUST A DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE ARE DEFINING THE THE HOMICIDES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA THAT WE'VE COMPILED, YOU SEE SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING THAT YOU WOULDN'T SEE IN THAT OTHER REPORT OR ANYWHERE ELSE, WHICH IS THAT IN 2023, WE ACTUALLY SAW AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MEN AND WOMEN SADLY LOSE THEIR LIVES TO FAMILY VIOLENCE, HOMICIDE. 14 MEN, 14 WOMEN AND FIVE CHILDREN LOST THEIR LIVES IN 2023.

SO THAT'S ONE CHANGE THAT WE CAN NOTE FROM 22 TO 23.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT WE HAVE DATA IN OUR REPORT FROM THE BEXAR COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

MAGISTRATES. THE MAGISTRATES COMBINED ISSUED A LITTLE OVER 2500 EMERGENCY PROTECTION ORDERS IN 2023.

AND WE AT THE CIVIL COURTS WHERE I PRESIDE, THERE WERE OVER 1600 PROTECTIVE ORDER APPLICATIONS FILED.

AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FINAL AND TEMPORARY PROTECTIVE ORDERS THAT WERE GRANTED COMBINED IN 2023, THAT WAS CLOSER TO 1800. WE ALSO HAVE

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INFORMATION, AND I THINK ALL OF THESE STAKEHOLDERS ARE HERE AS WELL.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN DIRECT YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO THEM.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AFTERWARDS. FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES REPORTED THAT NEARLY 500 PEOPLE WHO USED HARM PARTICIPATED IN THEIR BATTERERS INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION PROGRAM, COMMONLY KNOWN AS BIP, THAT IS MOST OFTEN ORDERED THROUGH THE COURTS, ON THE CRIMINAL COURTS OR ON THE CIVIL COURTS, AND IS ONE OF THE FEW EVIDENCE BASED STRATEGIES THAT WE KNOW HAS PROVEN TO REDUCE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, TO BREAK THOSE CYCLES OF ABUSE BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE USED HARM.

THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO METRO HEALTH DISTRICT REPORTED PROVIDING OR FACILITATING EMERGENCY LODGING TO OVER 1700 PEOPLE WITH FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES.

MARTHA'S HERE THE SHELTER PROVIDING OVER 1200 SHELTER SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS.

THROUGH THE BEXAR COUNTY FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER WITH RUN BY JUDGE CRYSTAL CHANDLER AND DA JOE GONZALEZ.

THEY, ALONG WITH METROHEALTH AND FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES, REPORTED THAT OVER 17,000 PEOPLE RECEIVED NONRESIDENTIAL CRISIS ADVOCACY SERVICES. THE FJC AND TEXAS RIO GRANDE LEGAL AID REPORTED PROVIDING APPROXIMATELY 3500 INDIVIDUALS LEGAL ASSISTANCE SERVICES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE PREVIOUSLY FUNDED, AND I THINK MAYBE THE FUNDING WILL BE UP THIS YEAR, BUT YOU ALL FUNDED SOME POSITIONS AT TRLA TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUES, LIKE NEEDING A PROTECTIVE ORDER, BUT ALSO HAVE CUSTODY, DIVORCE, CHILD SUPPORT, DISPUTES THAT WE KNOW ARE RELATED.

AND SO THANKS TO YOU ALL, YOU'RE HELPING THOSE FAMILIES GET THAT FULL RESOLUTION, THAT HOLISTIC RESOLUTION THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO INCREASE THE SAFETY FOR THOSE FAMILIES.

WE MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE WITNESSED IN 2023 A SLIGHT INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SUPPORT TO 211.

WE SAW FROM 2022 TO 23 AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 180 PHONE CALLS FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.

THIS SLIDE GOES INTO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DETAIL ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF FAMILY VIOLENCE REPORTS THAT WERE FILED BY WITH SAPD AND WITH BCSO. AND YOU'LL SEE AGAIN, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, IT HAS REMAINED RELATIVELY SIMILAR, RANGING FROM 22,100 TO 22,500. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOMICIDES IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS BREAKS IT DOWN IN ANOTHER WAY FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AND ALSO GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2015, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THERE'S BEEN FLUCTUATION IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FAMILY VIOLENCE.

HOMICIDES IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH, AS WE'RE ALL AWARE, IN 2018 WAS THE YEAR THAT WE RANKED NUMBER ONE IN TEXAS WITH RESPECT TO FAMILY VIOLENCE HOMICIDES BY TCV. AND WE'VE SEEN A OVERALL REDUCTION WITH SOME FLUCTUATION.

AND LASTLY, I, I THINK OH, WE'VE GOT TWO MORE SLIDES.

AS FAR AS CASES PROSECUTED, YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCREEN THE AMOUNTS OF FELONY AND MISDEMEANOR FAMILY VIOLENCE CASES RECEIVED BY THE DA'S OFFICE AND DISPOSED. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE NUMBER DISPOSED IS SLIGHTLY MORE THAN THE NUMBER RECEIVED.

AND THAT'S IN PART BECAUSE SOME CASES TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO DISPOSE OF.

SO YOU MAY HAVE SOME CASES THAT WERE DISPOSED THAT WERE NOT RECEIVED IN 2023 BUT WERE DISPOSED IN 2023.

AND THIS IS OUR LAST SLIDE. WE ALSO COMPILED DATA FROM OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS ABOUT PARENTING CLASSES THAT WERE PROVIDED BY METROHEALTH AND THE PEACE INITIATIVE TO ALMOST 1400 PEOPLE. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE PARENTING CLASSES THAT ARE EVIDENCE BASED, PROVEN TO PREVENT CHILD ABUSE. WE ALSO COMPILED DATA ON COUNSELING SERVICES PROVIDED THROUGH THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER AND CPS.

ALMOST 3000 ADULTS AND CHILDREN WERE PROVIDED COUNSELING SERVICES, AND ALMOST A LITTLE OVER 17,000 PEOPLE RECEIVED ADVOCACY SERVICES THROUGH THE FJC AND METROHEALTH. AND WE MENTIONED TEMPORARY LODGING EARLIER.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR REPORT. AND JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS THE FACT THAT THE NUMBERS HAVE REMAINED RELATIVELY THE SAME OR SIMILAR IN REPORTS IT'S FILED, AND A LOT OF THE OTHER DATA THAT WE REPORTED SIMPLY INDICATES THAT THERE'S STILL A NEED IN

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OUR COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THIS ISSUE.

OBVIOUSLY, THE INCREASE IN HOMICIDES HIGHLIGHTS THAT AS WELL.

SO THERE IS NO BETTER TIME THAN NOW TO CONTINUE OUR WORK TOGETHER.

I THINK THIS IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHERE THERE A JOINT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CAN AND DOES WORK, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE 2019, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU AND ARE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL GLADLY ACCEPT ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? NO QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY.

JUDGE. I JUST WANT TO THANK JUDGE DIAZ. MARIA.

GREAT TO SEE YOU AND REALLY ALL THE ADVOCATES.

I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD POINT, JUDGE, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A LITTLE BIT DISCOURAGED BECAUSE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT COME TO THE COURTHOUSE. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THE WORK IS ONGOING AND IT'S NONSTOP.

AND I THINK IT UNDERSCORES REALLY THE THE DESPERATE NEED THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR YOU KNOW, RESOURCES, BUT ALSO THAT IT TAKES TIME TO, TO CHANGE CYCLES AND GENERATIONS SOMETIMES.

AND SO THE WORK IS CERTAINLY APPRECIATED BY, YOU KNOW, MYSELF, I KNOW WE'VE SEEN JUST A NUMBER OF OUTREACH EFFORTS IN NOT JUST IN PRECINCT TWO, BUT IN ALL OVER BEXAR COUNTY.

AND WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFIERS THAT RELATE DIRECTLY TO SOME OF THESE CASES, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC YOU KNOW, SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO CONTINUE TO, TO PUT RESOURCES AND HELP YOUR EFFORTS, ALL OF YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT. I THINK IT DOES ALSO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, CITY, COUNTY CAN DO A LOT TOGETHER.

AND SO WE APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION, MARIA.

AND I HOPE THAT THERE'S MAYBE SOME STATE HELP AS WELL THAT THAT WE CAN ALL ADVOCATE FOR BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE STATE PUTTING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THINGS LIKE THE ALAMO.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUALLY IMPACTING PEOPLE, SOMETIMES WE DON'T SEE THOSE DOLLARS TRICKLE DOWN FROM THE STATE.

SO YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS. YOU GUYS ARE HEROES.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER MCGUIRK.

NO QUESTIONS. JUST WANTED TO REITERATE. REITERATE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. YOU KNOW, PROTECTING THOSE WHO ARE VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, GOING THROUGH DIFFICULT SITUATIONS. IT MEANS A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KOCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST ALSO WANT TO ECHO ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS AND SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONTINUED DILIGENCE ON THIS ISSUE, AND I THINK THAT ANY GUIDANCE YOU CAN GIVE THE COURT FOR ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT CAN HELP CULTURALLY GET THE YOU'VE DONE SOME OF THE BILLBOARDS I'VE SEEN THE MASS MEDIA AND HOW DO WE BOTH AT A PROSECUTORIAL LEVEL, AS WELL AS A RESTORATIVE JUSTICE LEVEL, PROVIDE A COMMUNICATION TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND? ONE, IT'S NOT TOLERATED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

TWO, THAT THERE ARE SOLUTIONS THAT CAN HELP YOU DEAL WITH YOUR ISSUES.

I'LL PUT THAT BROADLY. AND I WONDER ABOUT DEVELOPING WE SEE IN THE SUBSTANCE USE WORLD A LOT OF PEER COUNSELING. AND I WONDER IF YOU HAVE A GROUP OF SUCCESSFUL CLIENTS WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH YOUR PROGRAMS, WHO COULD SERVE AS A SPEAKERS BUREAU TO HELP.

REALLY? AND I THINK YOU DO HAVE A SPEAKERS BUREAU, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SPEAKERS BUREAU THAT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HELP FOR YOU. DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE I MADE.

I DID THIS, BUT NOW I, YOU KNOW, REGRET IT OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF CULTURAL AND HUMAN REACTIONS THAT CAN REALLY GET PEOPLE. AND IT ACTUALLY IS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY HAVE TO GET TO THESE GREAT SERVICE GROUPS.

SO JUST ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFOREHAND.

BUT WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T. SO TODAY WE'RE FOCUSING ON ON THE DATA.

RIGHT. BUT WE ARE WORKING ON OUR ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT.

AND WE'LL COME BACK AND PRESENT TO YOU ON THAT.

BUT WHAT YOU'LL HEAR AT THAT PRESENTATION IS THAT WHEN WE WORKED WITH METROHEALTH LAST YEAR TO REEVALUATE OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND GAPS, WE IDENTIFIED AS A GROUP THREE MAIN STRATEGIES THAT WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS,

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INCLUSIVE OF OF THIS YEAR AND THE THE FIRST STRATEGY, ONE THAT I'M WORKING ON, WE WELCOME YOU TO JOIN US IN THIS EFFORT, IS IMPLEMENTING, DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING AN ONGOING COMMUNICATION PLAN THAT IS COMPREHENSIVE, THAT INCLUDES MANY THINGS LIKE DEVELOPING A SPEAKER'S BUREAU WITH OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS ARE ALREADY IDENTIFYING MARTHA PATRICIA AND JULIA RODRIGUEZ, BOTH SURVIVORS THAT CAN SPEAK TO THEIR EXPERIENCES AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE USED HARM AND HAVE COME OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT.

SO THAT IS COMPREHENSIVE. IT INCLUDES SOCIAL MEDIA AND TRYING TO SPEAK TO TEENS ABOUT DATING VIOLENCE, MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. SO WE ARE IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THAT.

DOCTOR GARRIDO ALSO HAS BEEN WONDERFUL HELPING US WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT STRATEGY.

THE TWO OTHER STRATEGIES WE'VE TAKEN ON THAT WE'LL TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT LATER IS IMPROVING DATA ACQUISITION, SHARING AND UTILIZATION. SO THAT INCLUDES ALSO SOME SURVEYS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND AVAILABLE RESOURCES, THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH THE PROCESS. AND THEN LASTLY INCORPORATING EDUCATION ON HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS IN EARLY LIFE.

SO HOW HOW DO WE PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING? WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON EDUCATION AS EARLY IN LIFE AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET INTO THE SCHOOLS DUE TO SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE ONGOINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TIED TO TEACHING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN SCHOOLS.

HOWEVER, WE ARE GETTING CREATIVE AND FIGURING OUT WAYS TO DO THAT, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT WHEN WE COME PRESENT IN A FEW MONTHS ON ON OUR PROGRESS, THE WORK OF THE CCTV.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK THE NON-PROFITS WHO ARE HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE ON THE FRONT LINE DAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND OFTENTIMES WHEN THERE ARE VICTIMS, YOU GUYS ARE THE FIRST ONES THAT THEY CALL.

SO JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND I'LL CLOSE WITH SAYING THANK YOU TO MY FRIENDS WHO ARE STILL HANGING IN THERE.

MY LAST WORDS IS THIS FOR AS MUCH AS YOU ALL WORK SO HARD AND SO DILIGENTLY, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL DO. AND YOU DO THAT DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

BUT MY CLOSING STATEMENT TO ALL OF YOU IS FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES, THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR WELLNESS, THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR GOOD HEALTH, AND THAT YOU CONTINUE THE GOOD FIGHT.

SO WITH THAT, I WISH YOU THE VERY BEST AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

THANK YOU JUDGE. THANK YOU ALL. CAN WE GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE, PLEASE? THANK YOU TO OUR MEMBERS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

LET'S TAKE UP THE 1045 TIME CERTAIN WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON LATE FILE DISCUSSION.

[4.d. 10:45 a.m. - Discussion and appropriate action related to granting an exception to Administrative Policy 1.2 to authorize the consideration of the following late filed Agenda Item #4d(i).]

OR APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATING TO GRANTING AN EXCEPTION TO ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY.

1.2 TO AUTHORIZE THE CONSIDERATION OF LATE FILED AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, D, SUBSECTION I.

IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR LATE FILES SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES, I BELIEVE.

NOW WE'LL CONVENE AS BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE BEXAR COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

AND I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, YOU ARE THE CHAIR.

YES, SIR. JUDGE, THIS WILL BE BRIEF. IT IS 1139.

WE WILL CONVENE NOW AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE BEXAR COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

WE HAVE, I THINK, A VERY BRIEF AGENDA ITEM. ACTUALLY TWO.

FIRST IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS.

IT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING FROM JANUARY 23RD, 2024.

SO WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MOTION A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING. NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING BOND ISSUES.

THIS IS A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE APPLICATION OF AN AFFILIATE OF AMERICAN AGAPE FOUNDATION RELATING TO PROPOSED TAX EXEMPT BOND FINANCING OF UP TO $35 MILLION. AND THIS IS A JUST A RESOLUTION, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT THIS IS, SUMMER? THAT'S CORRECT.

INDUCEMENT RESOLUTION. CORRECT. OKAY. ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT IT I KNOW THIS IS NON THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY AN APPLICATION TO ISSUE BONDS. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY FOR AN APPLICANT TO GET IN LINE FOR SOME SOME INCENTIVES.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS A NON-BINDING INDUCEMENT RESOLUTION.

YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO ISSUING BONDS. WE WILL GET IN LINE AT THE STATE WITH THE TEXAS BOND REVIEW BOARD.

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ONCE WE RECEIVE AN ALLOCATION FOR THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS FOR THIS PROJECT, WE'LL NEGOTIATE ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WITH THE BOND PURCHASER, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL APPROVAL, AT WHICH TIME YOU WILL BE APPROVING THE BOND ISSUANCE.

BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT'S OCCURRING RIGHT NOW AT THIS ACTION.

OKAY. AND THIS IS JOSE. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS? THIS IS FOR A POTENTIAL REHAB OF AN EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT IS KIND OF DILAPIDATED, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, AND YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY BE PUTTING AFFORDABLE UNITS THERE.

IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. JOSE GONZALES, AMERICAN AGAPE FOUNDATION THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A NONPROFIT TO TAKE OVER A FORECLOSED ASSET BY A LARGE EQUITY INVESTMENT GROUP OUT OF NEW YORK.

WE ARE LOOKING TO USE PRIVATE ACTIVITY, TAXES AND BONDS AND THE EQUITY FROM 4% LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

THE TAX CREDITS REQUIRE US TO SPEND AT LEAST $35,000 A DOOR.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY DEAL WITH THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUES.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT ALLOWS US TO DO INCOME AVERAGING WITHIN THE TAX CREDITS SO THAT WE'LL HAVE UNITS AT 30%, 50%, 60%, AND 80% OF AMI. SO IT ADDS IT IMPROVES THE PHYSICAL CONDITION OF THE ASSET, AND IT EXPANDS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DIFFERENT INCOME BANDS TO LIVE THERE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A NON-BINDING INDUCEMENT RESOLUTION TO GET IN LINE FOR THOSE CREDITS.

ANY DISCUSSION FROM ANYBODY ON THAT? IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD. SO YOU SAID IT WAS A FORECLOSED PROPERTY? YES, MA'AM. SO IS IT JUST ABANDONED RIGHT NOW? NO, NO, NO, IT'S IT'S OCCUPIED AND MEANING THAT IT'S BEEN TAKEN BACK BY THE LENDER.

AND SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR THE NONPROFIT TO BUY IT FROM THE LENDER.

GOT IT. TO DO THESE THINGS. THANK YOU. BUT IT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

PARDON? NO COST TO US AS THE COUNTY, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION THEN TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FORWARD? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

MOTION. AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE BUSINESS WE HAVE. RIGHT. SO, HAVING CONCLUDED THE BUSINESS JUDGE, WE WILL CLOSE THE MEETING OF THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. TIME IS NOW 11:43 A.M., AND WE'LL WILL REOPEN OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING AND TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

[5. Request of Commissioners Court to identify items from the Consent Agenda for additional discussion and to approve remaining Consent Agenda items.]

REQUEST OF COMMISSIONERS COURT TO IDENTIFY ITEMS FROM CONSENT AGENDA FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND APPROVE REMAINING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO PULL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THOMAS GUEVARA AND MONICA RAMOS BECAUSE YOU GUYS SEE, WE HAVE A NEW ADDITION FOR ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE HEARING IMPAIRED, THE AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ADDING THAT ADDITION.

MONICA AND THOMAS, NOTHING TO PULL. AND I WOULD FURTHER, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY STAFF.

CYNTHIA COSS OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THIS EFFORTS THAT THOMAS AND MONICA HAVE PUT TOGETHER WAS A RESULT OF OUR MY OFFICE ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF THE DEAF COMMUNITY.

WE ACTUALLY, THROUGH A CITY AND COUNTY CONFERENCE ON DEAF CULTURE, INVITED ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS TO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF OUR DEAF COMMUNITY AND AS A RESULT, WE ARE OPENING ACCESS TO THOSE THAT HAVE DISABILITIES.

AND I WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OTHER GROUPS THAT NEED ACCESS.

AND SO WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE MINDFUL THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT, EVEN THOSE THAT MAY HAVE LIMITATIONS OR DISABILITIES.

SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR THAT. SHOUT OUT FOR STAFF.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE MY STAFF WAS ALSO RECOGNIZED TOO.

YEAH. CINDY. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. COMMISSIONER MOODY, ITEM 66 AND 8666. AND THEN WHAT? 86. YES. 86. COMMISSIONER CALVERT. I HAVE NOTHING TO PULL.

SO ALL THOSE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THOSE WHICH EXCEPT ITEM 66 AND 86.

[CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

POINT OF ORDER OR POINT OF PRIVILEGE. KIM JEFFRIES, ARE YOU STILL HERE BY ANY CHANCE, OR HAS SHE LEFT?

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KIM. WITHOUT. WITH UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF THE COURT.

KIM JEFFRIES IS ASKED TO ADDRESS THE COURT SPECIFICALLY ON ITEM 61 THAT JUST PASSED KIM.

SO I WANTED YOU, ESPECIALLY THE FACT OF IF NOBODY KNOWS, WELL, EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW.

BUT KIM IS MOVING ON. SHE'S GOT AN OPPORTUNITY.

I HAVE WISHED HER WELL, BUT I'VE RECOGNIZED HER TENURE AT HAVEN FOR HOPE, AND OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THE MANY TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN THAT ARE THERE, BUT IT ALSO DOES FALL UPON STAFF AND LEADERSHIP TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE PROVIDING THE MOST DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST IN NEED.

SO, KIM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A TECHNICAL.

I'LL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES, BUT YOU CAN TALK AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT, JUDGE. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO SPEAK ON 60 ONE. I JUST WANTED TO THANK COMMISSIONERS COURT AND BEXAR COUNTY IN PARTICULAR FOR THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HAVEN FOR HOPE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I TOOK THIS JOB THREE AND THREE YEARS AGO AND THREE MONTHS.

I DID NOT UNDERSTAND, I THINK THE THE DEPTH OF NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND, AND I'VE LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO MY ENTIRE LIFE.

AND SO SEEING IT AT HAVEN, WHEN THERE'S 1700 PEOPLE WITH COMPLEX ISSUES, WE NEED PARTNERS IN THIS SPACE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING ANY ONE AGENCY CAN DO ALONE.

AND WE HAVE 80 PARTNERS WE WORK WITH AT HAVEN, BUT THERE'S PARTNERSHIPS AND SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM OUR FUNDERS.

THAT IS MORE THAN JUST THE DOLLARS THAT YOU GIVE.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, BECAUSE THE WORK AND THE FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED NOT ONLY SAVES LIVES, IT TRANSFORMS LIVES. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, SINCE I GOT THERE, WHEN I GOT THERE, THERE WAS ALREADY THE JAIL OUTREACH PROGRAM TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING OUT OF THE JAIL SYSTEM AND HAVE NOWHERE TO GO CAN START REBUILDING THEIR LIVES AND NOT RETURN TO JAIL.

AND SO THAT ALREADY EXISTED. THE PARTNERSHIP FOR HIGH UTILIZERS OF HOSPITAL SYSTEMS WITH DOCTOR TAYLOR AT UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE OUT AND GET THEM CONNECTED TO PRIMARY CARE SO THEY AREN'T USING THE E.R.

AS THEIR PRIMARY DOCTOR AND HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS.

BUT WE'VE STARTED NEW PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY, WITH DOCTOR GUERRERO, WITH OUR PRE-CRISIS LIVING ROOM AND THAT EXPANSION.

SO WE CAN DO THAT AFTER HOURS AND ON THE WEEKENDS, BECAUSE WE KNOW PEOPLE DON'T HAVE CRISIS 8 TO 5 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

AND SO THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PARTNERSHIP. AND THEN WITH DAVID MARQUEZ AND ROBERT REINA WITH THE OUTREACH THAT IS LIFE SAVING WORK.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING ON THE STREETS FOR MANY, MANY VARIED REASONS AND COMPLEX ISSUES.

AND IN TRYING TO HAVE LOGICAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SOMEBODY WHEN THEY HAVE SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS OR ARE ACTIVE IN THEIR ADDICTION IS CHALLENGING.

BUT THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE GIVEN US HAS ALLOWED US TO MOVE 58 PEOPLE FROM THE STREETS IN LEON VALLEY INTO SHELTER SINCE THAT STARTED, AND THAT'S LIFESAVING WORK. AND THEN THEY GET ON THE CAMPUS AND THEN WE CAN TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES.

AND THEN LASTLY WITH THE DA AND MATTHEW HOWARD, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT COMMUNITY COURT IS HAPPENING AT HAVEN NOW.

AND SO THIS IS A BARRIER FOR OUR CLIENTS. BARRIER TO GET HOUSING BARRIER TO TO GET JOBS.

AND SO HAVING COMMUNITY COURT ON OUR CAMPUS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS GIVES OUR CLIENTS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE THOSE BARRIERS SO THEY REALLY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR LIVES. SO THE WORK YOU ALL ARE DOING IS INCREDIBLE.

AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW AND THANK YOU FROM MY TIME AT HAVEN, AND I KNOW YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ALL OF THESE EFFORTS TO TO HELP TRANSFORM LIVES OF THE CITIZENS OF BEXAR COUNTY. AND AS A CITIZEN OF BEXAR COUNTY MY ENTIRE LIFE.

I THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

KIM. I WISH YOU THE BEST. ALL RIGHT. ITEM SIX, FILING FOR RECORDS.

[6. Filing for record the following legal and administrative documents and directing the Criminal District Attorney's Office to take action, if necessary:]

THE FOLLOWING LEGAL ADMINISTRATIVE DOCUMENTS DIRECTING THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO TAKE ACTION NECESSARY FOR THOSE ITEMS LISTED AT EIGHT THROUGH F NUMBER SEVEN,

[7. Commissioners Court minutes for Tuesday, February 4, 2025.]

COMMISSIONER. COURT MINUTES. TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 4TH, 2025.

MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.

COMMUNICATIONS CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. LET ME ALERT.

[8. Communications from citizens who signed the register to speak. (Part 1 of 2)]

THE TIME IS NOW 1150. WE WILL BE BREAKING FOR LUNCH, BUT I'M TRYING TO BE VERY, VERY SENSITIVE.

I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR NUMBER EIGHT, JUST IN GENERAL, SO.

IS IT CHRISTINE HINES? ARE YOU STILL HERE? ALL RIGHT, MISS HINES, HOLD ON.

I'M YOU'LL BE PULLED UP NOW. I HAVE ANOTHER GROUP OF CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

I GOT TWO PEOPLE FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. ELVIS.

POLO. POLO. ELVIS. OKAY. WHAT WERE YOU SPEAKING ON? ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY? NOT ON THE AGENDA. OKAY.

THE REST ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON 95 AND 102.

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THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HEARD UNTIL LATER. AFTER? SURE. AFTER LUNCH. AND QUITE FRANKLY, PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE THE MEETING, WHENEVER THAT MAY BE.

SO IF ANYBODY HERE IS SAYING, JUDGE, I NEED TO SPEAK NOW, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS SIGNED UP THAT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT WOULD LIKE THE COURTESY TO BE CALLED UP AT THIS TIME, IF NOT THOSE THAT SIGNED UP FOR 95 TO 95 AND 102? I'LL CALL YOU WHEN THOSE AGENDA ITEMS ARE BROUGHT UP.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET US TAKE UP CHRISTINE HINES.

MISS HINES. YES. WELL, I KNOW HE WAS WAITING TO SEE ME.

JEFF WEBSTER. IS HE ON THE LIST? OKAY. OKAY. I DIDN'T.

GO AHEAD, MISS HINES. OKAY. JEFF'S WANTING TO SPEAK.

OKAY. CAN I HAND OUT SOME PAPERWORK? YES. THOMAS.

GOOD AFTERNOON TO ALL. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE HINES, AND I AM WITH GLORY FARMS. AND I HAVE BEEN FARMING IN SAN ANTONIO FOR FIVE YEARS NOW, AND IT IS A NONPROFIT.

AND WHEN I. I'M ORIGINALLY FROM CHICAGO. WHEN I ARRIVED IN SAN ANTONIO BACK IN 2012, I WORKED FOR A LITTLE BIT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. AND I SAW THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR CHILDREN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS AS FAR AS FOOD.

I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE LACK OF FOOD THAT SOME OF THE CHILDREN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO HAD.

AND SO I DID ALL THAT I COULD WITH RESEARCHING AND TRYING TO SEE HOW CAN I BE A HELP TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND SO I DECIDED TO START FARMING, AND I'VE BEEN DOING IT AGAIN SO FAR FOR FIVE YEARS.

BUT THERE IS A NEED IN THE CITY, IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, NOT ONLY FOR CHILDREN, BUT FOR THE UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO AS I GO THROUGH THE CITY I HELP OUT WITH MANY OTHER NONPROFITS.

REDEEMER'S PRAISE CHURCH PASTOR STRATEGO BEING ONE.

AND I JUST GO AROUND AND TRY TO SEE WHERE. CAN I GET MY HANDS IN? AND LATELY I OUTGREW MY BACKYARD THIS PAST YEAR, I OUTGREW THE BACKYARD WHERE I WAS GROWING ORGANIC FRUIT AND VEGETABLES, AND I DECIDED TO LET SEE WHAT I CAN DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

PARTNERING WITH BEXAR COUNTY AND OTHER SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE SITUATION WITH FOOD.

AND AS I BEGIN TO STUDY AND RESEARCH WHAT WAS GOING ON IN BEXAR COUNTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, I COME TO FIND OUT THAT EVEN SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT QUALIFY FOR A SNAP REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY THAT THEY NEED EVEN TO BUY GROCERIES. THEY WORRY ABOUT OTHER THINGS PAYING BILLS AND PUTTING A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS AND ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS.

AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BUY THE NUTRITIOUS FOOD THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO STOP THE OBESITY AND THE DISEASES THAT GO RAMPANTLY IN SOME OF THE UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I'M TRYING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND LIKE I SAID, WITH THE COUNTIES TO SEE HOW WE CAN START URBAN GARDENS OR COMMUNITY GARDENS WHERE WE CAN GET THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH EATING HEALTHIER.

THE TIME HAS EXPIRED. IF YOU WOULD WRAP UP MISS HINES.

YES. AND SO I'M HERE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT I CAN PARTNER WITH THE CITY OR COUNTIES WITH SOME UNUSED LAND TO COME IN AND CULTIVATE THE LAND AND GET THE NEIGHBORHOODS SERVED WITH HEALTHIER FOODS, NOT ONLY FOR THE NOW GENERATION, BUT FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.

AND AS I LOOKED INTO IT 1 OR 2 ACRES WILL FEED A COMMUNITY FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

AND SO I'M JUST HERE. CALVERT. COMMISSIONER CALVERT NEEDS TO TALK TO YOU, MISS HINES.

I'M GOING TO ASK BRANDON, MY STAFFER, TO GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AND YOUR HEART TO HELP PEOPLE WHO NEED FOOD. WE DO HAVE AN URBAN FARM THAT IS A COUNTY URBAN FARM WHERE YOU CAN PARTNER WITH US.

IT'S TEN ACRES AND ON ONE ACRE. WE GAVE AWAY 25,000 POUNDS OF FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES.

NOW WE'RE IN A BUILDING PHASE WHERE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HARVEST AT THE CURRENT MOMENT, BUT WHEN IT'S ONCE IT'S FINISHED,

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THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE AGRICULTURAL EXTENSION SERVICE.

SO WE WELCOME YOUR VISION AS WELL. SO I'LL ASK BRANDON JUST TO GET YOUR NUMBER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SEEING ME TODAY. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS.

MISS HINES, DO YOU MIND IF DO YOU MIND IF I PASS YOUR INFORMATION ON TO A CHURCH THAT'S STARTING A COMMUNITY GARDEN AS WELL? PASS IT ON TO WHOEVER YOU WANT TO. OKAY. I'M OPEN.

IT'S YOUR LUCKY DAY, MISS HINES. I KNOW IT'S MY BLESSED DAY TODAY.

COMMISSIONERS GO HELP YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I LIKE YOUR HAIR. ALL RIGHT. ELVIS. POLO.

I HOPE I'M PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT. ELVIS, WHERE ARE YOU? ELVIS. ELVIS, YOU'RE IN THE ROOM. ELVIS. DO YOU WANT TO COME? OH, IT'S ALL RIGHT, ELVIS. YOU GOT THREE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT? YOU GOT THE SIDEBURNS, MAN. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNTY JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I DO HAVE A PETITION WRITTEN BY MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF.

SHOULD I GIVE THAT UP NOW OR LATER? WE'LL TAKE IT.

TAKE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. MY NAME IS ELVIS PALAO. I AM A RESIDENT OF BIJAR COUNTY IN PRECINCT TWO.

SO SPECIFICALLY IN SILVER OAK'S HOA ON THE FAR WEST SIDE.

IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT DIRECTLY IN THE VICINITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE'RE TALKING WITHIN YARDS YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF YARDS OF HOMES AND SCHOOLS.

A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS TAKING PLACE THERE THAT WE CONSIDER IS HAZARDOUS, AND WE CONSIDER IT A CONCERN AND ALSO A SURPRISE.

WE FOUND OUT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. SO THAT'S WHY I'M COMING HERE TODAY.

BUT THERE ARE ABOUT 27 SIGNATURES ON THAT PAPER.

SO IMAGINE 26 PEOPLE BEHIND ME. NOW THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED IS A GAS STATION, BUT IT'S A COMBINATION TRUCK YARD, GAS STATION. WHO KNOWS HOW MANY PUMPS? 24 HOURS, HOWEVER, BUT ALSO THERE'S A LIQUOR STORE, SMOKE SHOP AND RESTAURANT. SO IT'S A FAIRLY BIG AREA, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SQUISHED IF YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ON GOOGLE MAPS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT GORHAM ROAD, SILVER SPOT AND OAKWOOD PARK, SO THAT'S A FAR WEST SIDE BY GOVERNMENT CANYON.

SO THAT'S THE AREA NOW FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GATHER, GAS STATIONS ARE NECESSARY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO KNOWN FOR TOXIC FUMES, CONTAMINATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT. THEY'RE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS.

THEY BRING INCREASED TRAFFIC ALSO. UNFORTUNATELY CRIME, CONSIDERING THE TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, THE LIQUOR STORE, THE SMOKE SHOP AND THE CONVENIENCE STORE OF IT'S 24 HOURS.

AND LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE ARE FOUR SCHOOLS IN THAT AREA.

SO WE HAVE KIDS WALKING UP AND DOWN. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE SIDEWALKS ON GORHAM ROAD.

AND WE HAVE KIDS WALKING ON THE MEDIAN RIGHT NEXT TO CARS.

WE'RE ALSO RIGHT NEXT TO THE AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE.

SO THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THE MAYOR GO UP TO THE HELOTES AREA ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH.

WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TAKING PLACE ALONG ALL THAT AREA, BUT IT'S AFFECTING OUR AQUIFER WHERE WE TAKE WATER FROM.

SO TO END ON. ON A BRIGHTER NOTE, I DO WANT TO SAY FOR FUTURE CONCERN, I BELIEVE IN CONSERVATION, BUT ALSO THE OTHER 26 PEOPLE ON THE PAPER THAT I SIGNED WE WOULD LIKE MORE PUBLIC PARKS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SET PUBLIC LAND. WE'RE GROWING IN THE MILLIONS, AND WE NEED PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND RECREATE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YES, YES.

MR. PLOW, WE DON'T NORMALLY GET IN A BACK AND FORTH, BUT I KNOW MY CHIEF OF STAFF WILL VISIT WITH YOU AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TO VISIT ON WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO. WE HAVE LIMITED, AUTHORITY FOR LAND USE FROM THE STATE.

BUT. BUT WE'LL CONNECT YOU WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN TO ACCOMMODATE, I BELIEVE, JEFF WEBSTER AND LUIS RODRIGUEZ.

YOU'VE ASKED TO SPEAK THIS MORNING. I'M GIVING YOU THREE MINUTES, MR. JEFF WEBSTER, AND THEN CHRIS CORSO. I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE ASKED TO SPEAK THIS MORNING.

SO DO Y'ALL WANT TO COME TOGETHER? Y'ALL WANT TO SPEAK SEPARATELY? WELL, I'M SURE WE'LL WANT TO SPEAK SEPARATELY, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT, Y'ALL CAN JUST STAND THERE.

JEFF, YOU GOT THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. JUDGE, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY. COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE TIME TO COME. SPEAK, MR. MANAGER. GOOD TO SEE YOU, MY FRIEND.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW TODAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING THE MOU WORK WITH THE SPURS AND THE CITY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE WHOLE PROJECT.

PROJECT MARVEL. BUT LET ME JUST SAY THIS. THERE'S THERE'S STILL A LOT TO BE DETERMINED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND LIKE MANY OF YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVERY ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION DONE TODAY.

IT'S NOT, I AM AS HARD NOSED ON SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS AND MY POLITICAL HISTORY AS ANYBODY,

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BUT I REALIZE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'VE GOT TO GET IS AN MOU THAT ALLOWS WHAT I CALL THE FISHING LICENSE OR THE HUNTING LICENSE TO GET ON THE POND OR GET ON THE LEASE, SO YOU CAN START HAVING SOME SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS AND GET INTO THE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS.

I'VE BEEN IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND I DO KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THEY ARE.

SO NUMBER ONE, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING.

JUDGE. I APPRECIATE YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS. I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

THE THOUGHT THAT'S GOING INTO THIS, THE THE ABILITY TO NOT RUSH IN AND WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GETTING OFF COUNSEL IN THE LATE 90S, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE PREVIOUS ARENA DEAL, AND I THINK WE RUSHED THINGS AND WE GOT PANIC AND WE MADE SOME DECISIONS WE PROBABLY REGRETTED.

I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE TIME AND THE ABILITY. YOU'VE GOT A GREAT PARTNER IN THE SPURS, YOU'VE GOT A GREAT PARTNER IN THE CITY. BUT I THINK APPROVING THIS MOU AND GETTING STARTED DOWN THIS ROAD TO HAVE SERIOUS, DETAILED CONVERSATIONS WILL BODE WELL FOR THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND I WANT TO SAY HOPEFULLY RETAINING OUR SAN ANTONIO SPURS AND THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND THE ENERGY THAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, FIGURING OUT A PLAN TO WORK WITH THE EAST SIDE.

COMMISSIONER, YOU AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER OVER MANY YEARS, AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHAT HAPPENS OVER THERE. AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, THE GREATER SAN ANTONIO CHAMBER IS PREPARED TO ASSIST AND FACILITATE IN ANY WAY WE CAN TO ASSIST ANY OF YOUR PRECINCTS, ANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT I DO SUPPORT THE GREATER SAN ANTONIO CHAMBER SUPPORTS THESE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS ON THE MOU.

JUDGE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT, SIR. THANK YOU. JEFF. LUIS RODRIGUEZ.

WELL, IT'S GOOD AFTERNOON. IT WAS GOOD MORNING. EARLIER OUR BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.

MY NAME IS LUIS RODRIGUEZ. I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF YOUR SAN ANTONIO HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHO WE WANT TO EXPRESS A STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND SPURS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT.

THIS MOU PRESENTS A CRITICAL OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES THAT WILL ELEVATE OUR CITY, ATTRACT INVESTMENT AND CREATE NEW BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR MEMBERS AND THE BROADER SAN ANTONIO SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY ABROAD, SPECIFICALLY OUR SMALL BUSINESS MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

FURTHERMORE, WE ALSO LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG SUPPORT IN ENSURING THAT WE REVITALIZE OR PROPERLY AND STRATEGICALLY INVEST IN THE FROST CENTER IN THE EAST SIDE AND TO CONTINUE TO BUILD MORE PROSPEROUS OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL, MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES IN THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO AND COLLECTIVELY, THE GREATER GOOD OF SAN ANTONIO. THE. THIS WAS LATE.

I GOT INTO FROM ITALY LATE LAST NIGHT, ONLY TO HAVE THESE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON THE PLANE VIA TEXT VIA THESE CHATS, BECAUSE THIS IS HOW IMPORTANT I FEEL SORRY FOR, YOU KNOW, SO A LITTLE BIT JET LAGGED AND GOING OFF TALKING POINTS, BUT JUST TO SHARE THAT THE SAN ANTONIO HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, YOUR SAN ANTONIO HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH ENTITY TO ENSURE COLLECTIVELY, WE COULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT'S PROSPEROUS FOR ALL OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE CONTINUE TO DO THE GREATER GOOD OF SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRIS CORSO.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH. DO YOU WANT TO JUDGE COMMISSIONERS? GOOD AFTERNOON, CHRIS CORSO. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS FOR GEORGIA GENERAL CONTRACTORS.

WE'VE HAD A LONG HISTORY OF WORKING IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND ON BEHALF OF GARY JOYCE AND THE 700 EMPLOYEES, I'M GLAD TO STAND HERE FOR YOU TODAY TO SAY THAT WE ARE INDEED IN SUPPORT OF THE MOU.

WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE PRIME CONTRACTOR ON THE ROCK AT LA CANTERA, AMONG MANY OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE EMPLOYED NOT ONLY INDIVIDUALS BUT NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS TRADE GROUPS.

AT ONE POINT, I THINK AT THE ROCK, WE HAD ROUGHLY 300 TO 400 PEOPLE ON THAT JOB SITE REPRESENTING ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDUSTRY TRADES MINORITY FIRMS. MY COMMENT TO YOU IS THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

WE FEEL LIKE THE MOU IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

OUR MISSION AT GEORGIA GENERAL CONTRACTORS IS TO TRANSFORM PEOPLE AND PLACES, AND WE THINK THAT THIS PROJECT AND THE MOU THAT YOU GUYS ARE MOVING TOWARDS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO FINISH. I'M GOING TO FINISH OFF THE CONSENT.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS TO TAKE UP. I'M ALERTING WHOEVER NEEDS TO COME UP HERE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH.

ABOUT 45 MINUTES AND WE'LL BE BACK. AND THEN WE WILL TAKE UP THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS IN THE AFTERNOON.

SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM 66. TINA. COMMISSIONER MOODE, I BELIEVE YOU WERE THE ONE THAT SAID.

[66. Approval of consideration and adoption by the Commissioners Court of Bexar County, Texas, of a Reimbursement Resolution expressing intent to finance expenditures to be incurred when completing new Capital Improvement Projects approved in the FY 2024-25 Adopted Budget in the amount of $95,094,905.]

WHO WANTS TO START THE CONVERSATION? I CAN START THE CONVERSATION.

I'M NOT SURE IF I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE ANYTHING HERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO PULL THIS ITEM THE 95 MILLION THAT THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION. SO THIS GOES BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO ACCOUNTING FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.

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BASED ON DAVID'S PRESENTATION LAST YEAR, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA, MAKES MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR US.

HOWEVER, THE THERE'S TWO POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE.

FIRST OF ALL THE AMOUNT HERE DOESN'T GET INTO UNDERSTANDING OUR CURRENT RUN RATE AND ADDITIONAL CAPITAL SPENDING THAT WE HAVE.

RIGHT? AND SO OVER TIME, WE HAVE PROJECTS FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE INJECTS THAT COME FROM THIS COURT OVER TIME.

BUT WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET INTO, AND THIS IS PROBABLY A SEPARATE DISCUSSION WITH, WITH COUNTY STAFF, IS JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT RUN RATE AND UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE CAN WE CAN CHANGE HOW WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THINGS.

BUT I ULTIMATELY WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY TIGHTENING OUR BELT A NOTCH OR TWO AND MAKING REAL, MEANINGFUL LONG TERM PROGRESS ON OUR DEBT AND OUR DEBT PER CAPITA HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

SO THAT WAS THE FIRST POINT I WANTED TO MAKE.

SO WE CAN WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THE BUDGETED PROJECTS ARE.

WE CAN GIVE YOU A WHOLE LIST OF ALL THE PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE AT BY PROJECT, AND THEN DO IT FOR THE PAST, WHAT, 4 OR 5 FISCAL YEARS? DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? PERFECT. OKAY. NO, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. THE OTHER THING I'D JUST BRING UP ON THIS ITEM IS GOING BACK TO OUR CONVERSATIONS LAST YEAR.

I SAID THEN, AND I'LL SAY AGAIN NOW, THAT THERE SHOULD BE A STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET THAT TALKS ABOUT OUR CAPITAL PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT ONCE, I GUESS, WHAT, FOUR YEARS AGO NOW? YES, YES. EVERY, EVERY 2 OR 3 YEARS. THERE SHOULD BE SOME, YOU KNOW, REPETITIVE PROCESS THAT THAT THIS COURT GOES THROUGH, THAT COUNTY STAFF GOES THROUGH WHERE WE REEVALUATE THAT PLAN, WHERE WE MAKE, YOU KNOW, INJECTS, WHERE WE TAKE PROJECTS OUT THAT NO LONGER ARE NECESSARY OR DON'T HAVE THE POLITICAL SUPPORT OF THE COURT.

AND ULTIMATELY, IT'S A LIVING, BREATHING STRATEGIC PLAN.

RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN CORPORATE AMERICA.

THAT'S WHAT IS A BEST PRACTICE. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS COURT WOULD MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE THE IDEA OF DOING A TEN YEAR PLAN AND THEN WAITING TEN YEARS TO DO ANOTHER ONE IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF BEXAR COUNTY OR OUR FUTURE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. THANK YOU.

MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 686. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU ASKED FOR CONSIDERATION.

[86. Approval of a request directing staff to identify funding in the amount of $30,500 for ongoing updates and management of Plan YourVoteSA.org; and authorization to execute a purchase order for Kalos Strategies for services rendered.]

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE OR COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? I CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND PROBABLY SPEAK TO IT.

WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN. SO THIS IS SOME FUNDING FOR A WEBSITE THAT THAT PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING VOTING. WE'VE WE'VE SEEN THIS ITEM BEFORE.

I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS WOULD BE BETTER HOUSED WITHIN THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. AND WITH THE NEW ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TO GO AHEAD AND, AND WE CAN EVOLVE AND IMPROVE UPON MAYBE SOME OF THE INFORMATION AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR VOTERS IN BEXAR COUNTY. BUT I JUST OUT OF PRINCIPLE AND BEING CONSISTENT.

THINK THAT AGAIN, THIS SHOULD BE HOUSED WITHIN THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND NOT A SEPARATE EFFORT BY COMMISSIONERS COURT.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I WASN'T GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

UNDERSTAND THE THE INTENT. AND HOPEFULLY AS WE GO FORWARD, WE CAN WE CAN TRY TO RESOLVE THIS WITH WITH OUR ELECTIONS OFFICE.

MOVE. APPROVAL. MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CALVERT. SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. COMMISSIONER. RODRIGUEZ. IF I COULD JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS OFFLINE. THIS WAS INITIATED DURING COVID.

I THINK INITIAL FUNDING WAS CARES ACT DOLLARS BECAUSE OF, I THINK, LACK OF INFORMATION, SO TO SPEAK, ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE REGARDING POLLING LOCATIONS, HOW TO VOTE.

I HAVE HAD A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION WITH THE NEW E MISS CAREW, VERY COMMITTED TO INNOVATION.

I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT THIS GETS FOLDED INTO HER OFFICE AT SOME POINT.

BUT THIS JUST GETS US THROUGH THIS YEAR FOR THE MAY AND NOVEMBER ELECTION.

SO THANK YOU, JUDGE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

THAT TIME IS NOW 1211. WE'LL RECESS FOR 45 MINUTES.

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01:00. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

PM WE'LL TAKE UP THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS.

[95. Presentation of a status update from Omnibase regarding the Failure to Appear Program as requested by Commissioners Court on 12/10/24.]

95 PRESENTATION OF A STATUS UPDATE FOR OMNIBUS REGARDING THE FAILURE TO PEER PROGRAM AS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT ON DECEMBER THE 10TH, 2024. WE DO HAVE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. AND SO I WANT TO ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK BEFORE THE PRESENTATION.

I HAVE RYLAN MAKSUD I HAVE IVAN LONDON, BOTH FROM THE TEXAS FAIR DEFENSE PROJECT.

DO Y'ALL WISH TO SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY OR WOULD YOU WANT TO YIELD TIME? I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOUR INSTRUCTIONS WERE.

RYLAN, ARE YOU HERE? RYLAN MAKSUD M AK SU.

RYLAN MAKSUD. WE'LL PASS. HOW ABOUT IVAN? LONDON OR LONDON? IVAN. LONDON. LONDON. ONE MORE TIME. COULD YOU CALL THEIR NAMES IN THE HALL? RYLAN. MAKSUD AND IVAN. LONDON OR LONDON? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO ON TO NEXT ONE. IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM 95, KATIE SIROCCO'S KATIE SIROCCO'S S I R A K OR H O S. CALL THE NAME OF KATIE SIROCCO'S IN THE HALLWAY. BAILIFF KATIE SIROCCO'S.

STEVE HUERTA, ARE YOU HERE? STEVE HUERTA CALL THE NAME OUT OF KATIE SIROCCO'S AND STEVE HUERTA IN THE HALLWAY, PLEASE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT APPEARS THAT WE CALL THEIR NAMES OUT THREE TIMES.

AND SO LET US PROCEED. WHO'S GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION? DOCTOR GREENFIELD. LABORDEA YOUR STAFF, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE DOCTOR LUIS MUNOZ, AND HE WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION ALONG WITH SEAN FROM OMNIBUS.

AND HOPEFULLY ALL TOGETHER WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

BUT IN DECEMBER, YOU ALL HAD ASKED US TO COME BACK AND DO A PRESENTATION, AND YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY DO TODAY. THANK YOU. HI, I'M DOCTOR MUNOZ, I AM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESEARCH COORDINATOR FOR OK. SO NICE TO MEET SOME OF YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY, I THINK WE'VE MET BEFORE.

SO, AS DOCTOR G SAID BACK IN DECEMBER, WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THE OMNIBUS PROGRAM OR THE FTA AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.

SO TODAY, WHAT WE HAVE IS GIVING YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THAT FTA OR FAILURE TO APPEAR PROCESS.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SPECIFIC PROCESS USED BY OMNIBUS AS A PART OF THAT FTA PROCESS, AND THEN KIND OF RECAPPING WHAT OMNIBUS DOES OR DOES NOT DO, AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE TEXTING OPTION THAT HAD BEEN TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY BACK IN DECEMBER, LOOKING AT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT TEXTING AS A COMPLEMENT TO THE EXISTING NOTIFICATIONS WE HAVE NOW FOR FTAS.

SO THIS IS A BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS THE COURTS IN BEXAR COUNTY USE PRIOR TO SUBMITTING SOMEBODY FOR THE FTA PROGRAM.

SO IF SOMEBODY GETS A CITATION, THEY'RE GOING TO GET BETWEEN 14 AND 30 DAYS TO CONTACT THE COURT AND RESOLVE THAT ISSUE OR SET A COURT DATE.

SO THEY ALREADY HAVE TWO WEEKS TO A MONTH TO TRY TO GET THINGS GOING ON THEIR CASE.

IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT DEADLINE SPECIFIED ON THEIR CITATION, THE COURT'S GOING TO SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE INDIVIDUAL, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY NOW HAVE A COURT DATE SET 30 DAYS OUT, SO THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED THERE.

YOU HAVE A COURT DATE COMING UP. IF THAT PERSON DOES NOT CONTACT THE COURT OR APPEAR BY THAT COURT DATE THAT IS SET 30 DAYS OUT, THAT IS A FAILURE TO APPEAR, BUT THEY DO NOT GET REPORTED TO THE FTA PROGRAM AT THAT POINT.

AT THAT POINT, THE COURT IS GOING TO SEND OUT A PRE WARRANT NOTICE NOTIFYING THEM THAT THEY HAVE ANOTHER 30 TO 60 DAYS BEFORE A WARRANT IS GOING TO BE ISSUED.

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AFTER THAT WARRANT DOES GET GENERATED, AFTER THAT 30 TO 60 DAYS, THAT INFORMATION GETS SUBMITTED TO THE BEXAR COUNTY CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR THEM TO EXECUTE THE WARRANT. YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO, WHEN THE WARRANT IS GENERATED, HAVE THAT CASE BEING TAGGED TO BE SENT TO THE FTA PROGRAM BY THE SOFTWARE THE NEXT TIME A BATCH OF CASES IS SENT TO THAT PROGRAM. SO ALL THAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT IS THE CASE GETS A TAG ON IT SAYING THIS CASE WILL BE SENT TO OMNI IN THE FUTURE.

SO YOU HAVE A LOT GOING ON BEFORE SOMEBODY ACTUALLY GETS SENT TO THE FTA PROGRAM.

THEY CAN EVEN HAVE A FAILURE TO APPEAR BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GET SENT TO THAT PROGRAM.

SO THIS IS JUST A VISUAL SHOWING WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE JP'S.

THIS IS FROM PRECINCT FOUR. SO IF YOU NOTICE UP IN THE TOP RIGHT, YOU HAVE THAT FIRST FAILURE TO APPEAR FOR THAT INITIAL COURT DATE AND THE COURT IS STILL GOING TO ISSUE THEM A SECOND NOTICE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO IMMEDIATELY GET REFERRED TO OMNI.

THEY STILL HAVE TIME TO RESOLVE THEIR COURT ISSUES BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GET REFERRED TO OMNI AND FACE SOME KIND OF SANCTION.

IF THEY DO APPEAR THAT FIRST TIME AND FAIL TO APPEAR LATER, THEY WILL GET REFERRED.

BUT THAT STILL TAKES TIME. IT'S NOT IMMEDIATE.

SO WITHIN THAT PROCESS, WHAT OMNI DOES IS THEY ARE GOING TO ACT ON CASES THAT GET REFERRED TO THE FTA PROGRAM BY THE JP'S AND OTHER COURTS.

THEY ARE GOING TO PLACE A HOLD ON THE RENEWAL OF THE DRIVER'S LICENSE.

THEY DO NOT SUSPEND THE LICENSE. THEY DON'T STOP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING OR ANYTHING.

THEY SIMPLY SAY, WHEN YOUR LICENSE COMES UP FOR RENEWAL, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT.

AS LONG AS THIS HOLD IS ON YOUR LICENSE, THAT HOLD IS ON THEIR LICENSE.

AS LONG AS THEY HAVE NOT RESOLVED THEIR LEGAL ISSUES WITH THE APPROPRIATE COURT.

OMNIBUS WILL, IN CONJUNCTION WITH DPS ISSUING LETTERS, COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT THE HOLD AND ABOUT THE NEED TO LIFT THAT HOLD IF THEY WANT TO RENEW THEIR LICENSE. SO YOU GET A LETTER.

WHEN THE HOLD HAS BEEN ISSUED, YOU GET A LETTER 60 DAYS BEFORE A LICENSE EXPIRATION, AND YOU GET A THIRD LETTER WHEN THAT LICENSE HAS ACTUALLY EXPIRED.

DURING THAT ENTIRE PROCESS, PEOPLE CAN STILL DRIVE.

THE LICENSE IS VALID WHILE THE HOLD IS THERE, AS LONG AS IT HAS NOT PAST ITS EXPIRATION DATE.

IT IS ONLY WHEN THE LICENSE HAS EXPIRED THAT YOU CANNOT BE DRIVING WITH THAT LICENSE, WHICH IS A DPS ISSUE.

THAT IS A LEGAL ISSUE THAT IS NOT AN OMNIBUS DECISION.

SO THE OMNIBUS PROCESS, WHICH IS AGAIN, JUST A PART OF THAT BROADER FTA PROCESS, THEY GET THE FTA HOLD REQUEST FROM THE COURT AND THEY SUBMIT THAT TO DPS. DPS CONFIRMS OR REJECT THE HOLD, DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A VALID TEXAS DRIVER'S LICENSE BEING SUBMITTED.

WHEN THAT HOLD IS CONFIRMED, A LETTER IS GENERATED WITHIN 1 TO 2 BUSINESS DAYS THAT IS SENT TO THE INDIVIDUAL INFORMING THEM OF THAT DENIAL OF RENEWAL.

HOLD. AGAIN, I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS, UP UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF THEIR LICENSE, TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE WITH THE COURT. NOW, RECENTLY, TEXAS PASSED A LAW WHERE FOR PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 84, YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE IS VALID FOR EIGHT YEARS.

SO IF YOU GET AN FTA, REFER TO OMNI AND YOUR LICENSE WAS JUST RENEWED.

THAT MEANS YOU HAVE ALMOST EIGHT YEARS TO GET THE ISSUE RESOLVED BEFORE YOU FACE ANY REAL IMPACT FROM YOUR LICENSE.

HAVING THAT DENIAL OF RENEWAL, HOLD ON IT. REMEMBER, IT'S NOT A SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION, IT IS SIMPLY SAYING YOU CANNOT RENEW YOUR LICENSE IN THE FUTURE.

SO IF YOU DON'T RESOLVE THE ISSUE WITH THE COURT BY THE TIME YOUR LICENSE EXPIRES, YOU CAN STILL BE ELIGIBLE AT THAT POINT FOR AN OCCUPATIONAL DRIVER'S LICENSE.

SO EVEN IF YOU STILL HAVE THAT DENIAL OF RENEWAL HOLD, YOU CAN STILL DRIVE BY GETTING THAT OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE.

SO TO CLARIFY, YOU HAVE SEVEN DIFFERENT NOTIFICATIONS THROUGHOUT THE LEGAL PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF WHICH OMNIBUS AND THE FTA PROGRAM ONLY ACCOUNT FOR A FEW OF THEM. PEOPLE ARE GIVEN MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES OR INFORMED MULTIPLE TIMES OF WHAT THE STATUS OF THEIR CASES, OF THEIR NEED TO APPEAR IN COURT. AND ONCE THEY HIT POINT NUMBER FIVE ON HERE ABOUT THE DENIAL OF RENEWAL HOLD.

SO THEY HAVE TIME, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE NOTIFICATIONS TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE, OR TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO LIFT THE HOLD BY GOING TO THE COURT, EVEN IF THAT'S JUST GOING TO THE COURT WITHOUT GETTING THE CASE ADJUDICATED, JUST SIMPLY GETTING THE PROCESS GOING.

SO HERE ARE SOME EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE ON THE MOST COMMON OFFENSES SENT TO THE FTA PROGRAM.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

AND KEEP IN MIND, PEOPLE ARE GETTING MULTIPLE MONTHS BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GET REFERRED TO THE PROGRAM. NONE OF THESE OFFENSES, EXCEPT FOR ONE, ARE GOING TO CARRY THE PENALTY OF YOUR LICENSE BEING SUSPENDED.

SO THE MOST YOU'RE GETTING IS A DENIAL OF RENEWAL.

HOLD THAT. ONE OFFENSE IS DRIVING WHILE LICENSE INVALID, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR 15,144 OF OFFENSES SENT TO OMNIBUS BETWEEN 2015 AND 2024. AND EVEN THAT ONE, THE DWI ONLY HAS A SANCTION OF YOUR LICENSE BEING SUSPENDED IF YOU ARE CONVICTED,

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IT IS NOT AN AUTOMATIC SANCTION. IT HAPPENS AFTER YOU HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS.

SO UP UNTIL THAT POINT ON, THESE OFFENSES THAT ACCOUNT FOR 72.99% OF ALL FTA CASES SENT TO OMNI.

YOU'RE NOT GETTING YOUR LICENSE SUSPENDED. YOU'RE JUST GETTING THAT DENIAL OF RENEWAL HOLD.

SO OMNIBUS DOES NOT SUSPEND OR REVOKE DRIVER'S LICENSES.

IT DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM ACQUIRING AN AN OCCUPATIONAL DRIVER'S LICENSE.

YOU CAN STILL APPLY FOR THE CDL EVEN IF YOU HAVE THAT DENIAL OF RENEWAL.

HOLD ON YOUR LICENSE. OMNIBUS DOES NOT IMPOSE FEES ON INDIVIDUALS.

THOSE ARE ASSESSED BY THE COURTS OR BY DPS. WHEN YOU'RE APPLYING FOR A LICENSE OR TRYING TO GET A HOLD LIFTED.

SO THERE MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IMPACT IF YOU DON'T RENEW YOUR LICENSE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE FEES TO GET IT THAT HOLD LIFTED, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY FEES TO OMNI.

THOSE ARE FEES THAT ARE ASSESSED BY THE COURTS AND IN SOME INSTANCES THAT THE COURTS ARE WILLING TO WAIVE.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE THAT JUST FURTHER CLARIFIED THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN A DENIAL OF RENEWAL AND A LICENSE SUSPENSION.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT IN DETAIL. WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE THAT DRIVING WHILE LICENSE INVALID IS AN OFFENSE THAT PEOPLE GET SUBMITTED TO THE FTA PROGRAM FOR THAT DOES CARRY THAT SANCTION OF LICENSE SUSPENSION, BUT THAT ONLY HAPPENS IF YOU GET CONVICTED, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU HAVE MAYBE GONE THROUGH THE FTA PROCESS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY. THERE MAY BE OTHER OFFENSES THAT GET REFERRED THAT CARRY A MANDATORY SUSPENSION LIKE DWI AND DUI, BUT EVEN UNDER THOSE, YOU ARE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR THAT OCCUPATIONAL DRIVER'S LICENSE.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION HERE ON THAT OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE, WHICH CAN HELP MITIGATE THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT BEING ABLE TO RENEW YOUR LICENSE, WHICH AGAIN, ONLY OCCURS AFTER THE EXPIRATION DATE.

SO THE ODEL ALLOWS YOU TO DRIVE TO AND FROM WORK.

IT ALLOWS YOU TO GO TO SCHOOL. IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO NECESSARY HOUSEHOLD ERRAND RUNS.

IT IS A NOMINAL APPLICATION FEE OF $10 THAT COULD BE WAIVED BY THE COURTS IN ORDER TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR IT, EVEN IF THEY MIGHT ARGUE SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL HARDSHIP.

THOSE ARE NOT COVERED BY OMNIBUS. OMNIBUS DOES NOTHING WITH THEM.

THAT IS PURELY THROUGH DPS. APPLYING FOR THE ODEL THEN IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL.

BUT THEY DO GET NOTIFICATIONS. THEY ARE AWARE OF THE PROCESS BY VIRTUE OF GETTING THESE DPS LETTERS THAT TELL THEM WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT DENIAL OF RENEWAL HOLD.

SO BACK IN DECEMBER, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT TEXTING AS AN ALTERNATIVE.

NOW, WE WOULD SAY TEXTING IS NOT NECESSARILY AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT RATHER A COMPLEMENT TO THE EXISTING SYSTEM, BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER WAY OF NOTIFYING PEOPLE OF WHAT ISSUES THEY HAVE.

SO LETTING PEOPLE KNOW YOU'VE GOT A COURT DATE, YOU'VE GOT A DENIAL OF RENEWAL HOLD.

SO WE GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM BEXAR COUNTY.

IT ON WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF COST.

WE KNOW THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD TAKE UP TO TWO MONTHS, WITH 20 HOURS PER WEEK ALLOCATED WITH A PHASE STRUCTURE TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT, TESTING AND VALIDATION. THERE IS A COST BREAKDOWN THAT HIGHLIGHTS A ONE TIME SETUP EXPENSE IN YEAR ONE AND RECURRING COSTS IN YEAR TWO, AND ALSO PROJECTED COST INCREASES THAT ACCOUNT FOR INDUSTRY ADJUSTMENTS.

SO HERE IS THAT COST BREAKDOWN FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO NOTE IN YEAR ONE THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE JUST UNDER $17,000.

THAT INCLUDES THAT ONE TIME DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION COSTS.

IN YEAR TWO THAT PROJECTED COST DOES GO DOWN.

BUT I SHOULD NOTE HERE THAT IN THAT FIRST ROW, THIS IS BASED ON 10,000 TEXT MESSAGES DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT BOX.

IT SHOWS WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THE TOP.

IF YOU DO DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF TEXT MESSAGES GOING UP TO 100,000 TEXT MESSAGES AT ABOUT $1,200 A MONTH, INSTEAD OF $126 A MONTH. SO HOPEFULLY THIS HAS CLEARED UP SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE HAD ABOUT OMNIBUS BACK IN DECEMBER.

GIVEN SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT OMNIBUS DOES AND DOESN'T DO.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SEAN, HERE IS THE PRESIDENT OF OMNIBUS.

I'M SURE HE IS WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AS WELL.

LET'S GO STRAIGHT INTO QUESTIONS. ANYBODY GOT QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CALVERT IS IS THE TECH SYSTEM THE STATE TECH SYSTEM? IS THAT THE COST OF THE STATE TAX SYSTEM THAT WAS ENACTED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

THAT I AM NOT SURE THAT IS JUST THE COST TO IMPLEMENT IN BEXAR COUNTY.

USING THE EXISTING ODYSSEY SYSTEM. OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S A PAID SYSTEM FROM ODYSSEY THAT WE'D HAVE TO PURCHASE.

THERE'S A NEW TECH SYSTEM THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS OFFERS THROUGH DPS FOR THIS OUTREACH.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS ESTIMATE IS JUST FOR TEXTING THROUGH ODYSSEY, AND USING WHATEVER INTERFACE WOULD BE COMBINED WITH ODYSSEY TO SEND THOSE MESSAGES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE I DIDN'T SEE ANY INFORMATION IN THERE ABOUT THE STATEWIDE SYSTEM.

OKAY, WELL, IT'S BRAND NEW. A BILL THAT HAS JUST BEEN ENACTED, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO IT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN COME BACK TO US LATER.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY, CAN YOU JUST PULL UP THE THE FINANCE SLIDE AGAIN?

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SO FIRST I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS AND WHETHER WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT AND WHERE THAT ESTIMATE IS COMING FROM. SO THIS INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO US BY, I BELIEVE, BCIT.

SO I'M NOT 100% SURE WHERE THEY GOT THOSE ESTIMATES FROM, BUT THAT IS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, A RESEARCH OR AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT THEY HAD SENT US THAT LOOKS LIKE IT COVERS DEVELOPMENT, TESTING AND VALIDATION. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE COSTS ARE COMING FROM THOUGH.

MARK, DO YOU KNOW? MARK. I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS. I KNOW THAT WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT DIFFERENT TESTING RESOURCES.

I THINK TWILIO WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM, BUT IT'S JUST A NORMAL STANDARD SMS MESSAGING PLATFORM.

AND THESE ARE PRETTY STANDARD RATES. I KNOW, BUT NOT THE STATE.

STATE ONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE STATE. YEAH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

I WROTE A NOTE TO FOLLOW UP. SO OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, AS A BACKUP OPTION, YOU KNOW, A COMPLIMENTARY, AS YOU PUT IT IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE.

THE THE COSTS, I THINK, ARE STILL PROBABLY ON THE HIGH END BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE I WAS TRYING TO DO THE MATH THERE.

AND AND IF, IF I'M THINKING ABOUT THE TOTAL MESSAGES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE LOOKS LIKE $0.15 PER TEXT.

BUT TYPICALLY AND WE'VE ALL RUN CAMPAIGNS UP HERE, YOU CAN DO JUST SIMPLE SMS TEXTS FOR LIKE 2 OR $0.03 PER TEXT.

SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY LIKE WHAT DROVE THAT SO HIGH OR THE DEVELOPMENT COST, BECAUSE TYPICALLY THOSE DEVELOPMENT COSTS ARE KIND OF ROLLED INTO THE, THE TEXT MESSAGING COST. SO THAT'S THE ONLY FEEDBACK I HAVE.

BUT I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING GOING ON ON COST.

WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, EVEN IF IT'S LIKE WHAT YOU SAID AT $0.23 OR WHATEVER, $0.05, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IT HAS TO TALK TO OUR SYSTEM, BECAUSE THEN OUR SYSTEM WOULD BE THE ONE SPITTING OUT THOSE TEXTS.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK WITH THE NEW CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW.

OKAY. SO THAT I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO OKAY, OTHER VENDORS, BUT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING AN INTEGRATION WITH OUR CURRENT COURT SYSTEM, THEN THAT'S PROBABLY ON THE LOW SIDE, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANTED TO TO POINT THAT OUT. BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.

I THINK THERE HAS TO BE AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE ADVOCATING FOR.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES. RIGHT. THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF ENFORCEMENT.

IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T SHOW UP AND THEY DON'T SHOW UP AGAIN.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY TOOLS THAT WE HAVE.

SO AND AS YOU SAW, THERE'S NUMEROUS TIMES THAT THEIR LETTERS.

SEVEN LETTERS. RIGHT. AND I MEAN, THEY AT SOME POINT SOMEONE HAS TO COME TO COURT, RIGHT? YEAH. AND TRY TO RESOLVE THAT. BUT THEY HAVE A LONG TIME TO RESOLVE THAT BEFORE THERE'S TRUE IMPLICATIONS THAT COULD POSSIBLY WHERE THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR, YOU KNOW, NOT BE ABLE TO RENEW THEIR LICENSE.

SO IT'S LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THIS PROGRAM AND ALONG WITH OMNIBUS, IT GIVES THEM A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE. I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE THAN GENEROUS IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SEVEN DIFFERENT LETTERS GOING TO THAT INDIVIDUAL.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. THIS IS, I THINK, HELPFUL COMING OUT OF THAT DISCUSSION WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

AND I THINK THE COST ON THE TEXTING IS RELATIVELY MINOR IN THE BIG IN THE BIG PICTURE.

AND I THINK IT IS A WAY TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT OUTREACH SO THAT FOLKS ARE MADE AWARE.

I KNOW THERE WAS A MEETING OR MAYBE SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE JP'S AND I DON'T KNOW, DOCTOR G, IF YOU WERE PART OF THAT AND SOME OF THE ADVOCACY GROUPS, DID YOU PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS OR.

I'M WONDERING IF ANY OF THOSE ISSUES THAT THEY BROUGHT UP HAD BEEN RESOLVED WITH WITH THAT DISCUSSION? DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION? FORTUNATELY, I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY MEETINGS, BUT WE DID SPEAK TO SOME OF THE JP COURTS ON OUR OWN.

AND THE VERY BEGINNING, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST COMING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT TO GET INFORMATION FROM THEM. AND BUT THAT WAS OKAY.

AND I KNOW SOME OF I THINK SOME OF THEM WERE HERE EARLIER, JUDGE.

SO I'M CURIOUS THEIR FEEDBACK. BUT BUT I THINK THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION AND IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW HOW YOU KNOW, THE THE PROCESS WORKS. AND CERTAINLY I GUESS AT SOME POINT JUDGE DOWN THE ROAD, I KNOW IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM, BUT I THINK THE TEXT MESSAGING IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO TO INFORM PEOPLE.

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I'D CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF LOOKING AT THAT.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. OKAY. LET ME. SAY THIS.

AS I RECALL, WE PASSED BY AN ACTION ITEM BACK IN DECEMBER MEETING? YES, SIR. OVER COMMENTS AND ISSUES THAT OBVIOUSLY THE MOST WERE FROM THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. I BELIEVE SOME OF THEM, I THINK, HAVE NOW COME BACK AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

IF I COULD KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHAT I HEARD THEN AND WHAT I CHARGED Y'ALL TO DO FOR TODAY'S REPORT, IS THIS WHAT I'VE HEARD CLEARLY FROM THOSE ADVOCATES THAT OPPOSE OMNIBUS IS THE FACT THAT THESE TYPE OF MEASURES ARE ARE PUNITIVE, OVERLY PUNITIVE, THAT THEY FALL DISPROPORTIONATELY ON PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THE ECONOMIC MEANS TO TAKE CARE OF THESE VIOLATIONS, ALBEIT TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS OR CLASS C VIOLATIONS.

AND THAT FROM AN EQUITY STANDPOINT, WE THE COURT, SHOULD NOT BE AWARDING A CONTRACT.

I HEARD IT CLEARLY. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ASKED FOR THIS REPORT.

I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS IN REGARDS FROM THOSE COMMENTS.

AND I'M GOING TO GO FIRST TO DOCTOR MUNOZ. IN SUMMARY OF WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED AND WHAT DOCTOR GREENFIELD HAS SAID IS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY HAS REALLY GONE OVER AND BEYOND IN PROVIDING NOTICE, TIME AND EFFORT FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS BEING THOSE TRAFFIC CITATIONS IN THE JP COURTS.

AND I GET THAT. I'VE ALSO SEEN TODAY IN YOUR REPORT THAT THE PENALTIES OF PEOPLE NOT FOLLOWING THROUGH, EVEN AFTER ALL THESE EFFORTS ARE NOT LICENSE SUSPENSIONS, BUT THE DENIAL OF THE RENEWAL IF AND WHEN THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE COMES UP.

NOW THE REALITY IS WHEN PEOPLE CONTINUE TO IGNORE.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION.

BEING A FORMER JUDGE OF, WELL, HOW MANY MORE NOTICES ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE? AND WHY ARE WE CONTINUING TO GIVE NOTICES AFTER? SO THERE'S A CERTAIN ASPECT. WHAT'S THIS TEXT MESSAGING FOR OTHER THAN US TO SAY? BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RESPOND AFTER SEVEN NOTICES, TELL ME HOW THEY'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO TEXT MESSAGING AND HOW THAT LINKAGE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. NOW, PERHAPS THE COUNTY OMNIBUS HAS STRATEGY ALONG WITH THE JP'S.

AND AS I RECALL, AND COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ JUST RAISED IT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JUSTICE PIECES WERE AWARE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, BECAUSE AS I HEAR IT, AND BEING A FORMER JUDGE, THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE OF THE COURT, WHICH IS THE JP COURT, IS REALLY UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE JUDGE, AND AS I RECALL, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE REASON WHY I REALLY WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE IS BECAUSE THIS IS A TOOL THAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR, THAT THEY EMBRACE, AND THAT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND THE THE FUNDER FOR THESE PROGRAMS WAS THAT THE JUDGES WERE AWARE THAT WE WANTED THEM TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NEED ASSISTANCE OR PERHAPS ADDITIONAL TIME. BUT WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY IS THAT THE TARGETED POPULATION FOR OMNIBUS TODAY IS BASICALLY THE CHRONIC VIOLATOR, THE VIOLATOR WHO CHRONICALLY FAILS TO APPEAR.

SO THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE IF SOMEBODY IS ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE, ASKING FOR EQUITY, ASKING THAT THEY BE GIVEN A BREAK, THAT WE'RE NOT BEING SENSITIVE TO THAT PERSON AND THAT THE JUSTICE OF PEACE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WANTED A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION, A THOROUGH DISCUSSION, NOT ONLY FROM COUNTY AND WHAT EFFORTS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE.

SO OBVIOUSLY TODAY IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM, BUT SO AM I TO HEAR THAT YOU ALL WANT TO EMBRACE THIS TEXT MESSAGING AS AN ADDITIONAL TOOL,

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OR IS THAT WAS THAT JUST A DISCUSSION? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE Y'ALL ARE GOING TO GO ON THE NEXT MEETING.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? SO IS IT OUR DIRECTION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? YES, YES, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH COMMISSIONER ASKED ABOUT THE TECH SCENE.

SO WE REACHED OUT TO BCIT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK WITH ODYSSEY.

THEY GAVE US THE INFORMATION AND THE COST JUST TO SET IT UP.

BUT THEN YOU SAW WHERE THEREAFTER IT WOULD BE A LOT LESS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING WE GO TEXTING, GOING TO IMPOSE ADDITIONAL LOAD EITHER ON THE JUSTICE OF PEACE COURTS, THE CLERKS. IS IT GOING TO PUT A LOAD ON YOUR STAFF? WHO IS GOING TO DO THIS? THE THING IS, IS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM UTILIZING TOOLS, BUT I'M QUESTIONING.

AND SO WHAT I DON'T WANT US TO DO IS KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

I BELIEVE TODAY'S UPDATE WAS TO SATISFY THE COURT, AND PARTICULARLY ME, THAT WE WERE DOING EVERYTHING WE COULD DO TO BE FAIR, TO BE EQUITABLE, AND NOT DISPROPORTIONAL ON PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THESE FEES.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JUDGES IN THESE COURTS WERE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT THE COMMENTS OF THE PUBLIC WERE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, JUDGES ARE TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND RULE THE COURTS AS THEY SEE FIT.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE JUSTICE OF PEACE IS THE CONSTABLES THAT DO ENFORCE THE FTAS ARE ALL TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE OMNIBUS CONTRACT AS IT IS NOW. YES, SIR. AND AS FAR AS THE LOAD.

I THINK THE ONE THAT WOULD FEEL THE MOST LOAD WOULD BE BCIT, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE WORKING WITH ODYSSEY TO CREATE THAT SYSTEM, TO WORK WITH THE TECH SCENE. SO THAT PROBABLY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MARK, HIS PLATE IS FULL.

HE DOESN'T NEED MORE ON YOUR PLATE, DO YOU? MARK GAGER DO YOU WANT TO PUT THAT ON? FINE. ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS TRY TO SET THE THE PLATFORM, SO TO SPEAK, AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

SO COURT, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE APPROVE THIS.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE BUT UNDERSTAND OMNIBUS AND I'LL DIRECT MY MY COMMENTS TO YOU.

OBVIOUSLY I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAYBE COME IN FROM AT PERIODIC TIMES TO GIVE US A REVIEW OF HOW EFFECTIVE YOUR ENFORCEMENT IS.

AND THEN I WOULD ASK YOU OR THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE TO DIALOG WITH THE JUSTICE, THE PIECES OF WHAT OTHER TOOLS COULD BE UTILIZED.

OKAY, PERHAPS WE NEED ANOTHER MECHANISM. ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.

I'M SURE THE CONSTABLES WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TO GO EXECUTE WARRANTS ON FAILURES TO APPEAR.

YEAH, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LINE THAT THIS COURT IS GOING TO DO IN REGARDS TO HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THIS, ESPECIALLY TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN LEAST AFFORD.

YES. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YES, SIR.

SO I'M BASICALLY SAYING Y'ALL STILL HAVE TO BE WATCHING THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE FAIR.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO Y'ALL? YES, ABSOLUTELY. MR.. CALVERT.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. LET ME GIVE THE COURT A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE.

TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT DID ASK MY OFFICE TO ASSEMBLE THE JP'S, AND WE DID HAVE A MEETING.

I APOLOGIZE IF WE DIDN'T INFORM YOUR DEPARTMENT.

IT WASN'T. IT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT. WE'RE DEALING WITH 100 THINGS, AND IT'S JUST A SMALL COUNTER TO MY HEAD AND NOT TO MY HEART.

THERE THERE WAS NOT AN AWARENESS AMONGST THE JP'S ABOUT THE NEW STATE TECH SYSTEM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF IT.

THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO COULD TELL US ABOUT THAT TEXT SYSTEM.

SO THE JP'S WERE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL SYSTEM.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE JP'S MADE CLEAR THAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO USE OMNIBUS.

SO THERE IS A PROCESS THAT THOSE ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE TO DO WITH THE JP'S.

THEY BEGAN, THEY BEGAN IN THE MEETING TO LET THE JUDGES KNOW ABOUT THE FINANCIAL STRESSES THAT YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT.

SO I THINK IT'S IT'S NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE THAT THERE CAN'T BE FINANCIAL BURDEN AND ALSO DRIVERS BURDEN THAT HAPPENS.

AND SOMETIMES THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WAIVERS. FOR EXAMPLE AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUDICIAL DISCRETION, BUT IT MAY NOT BE AS ROBUST AS WE MIGHT THINK IT IS.

77,000 PEOPLE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE TO TO TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUTREACH AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PER YEAR AND THAT THAT TENDS TO ADD UP. SO THERE IS A, THERE IS A MASS COMMUNITY IMPACT.

I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS IT HAS BEEN GOOD TO GET THIS UPDATE.

I THINK, JUDGE, MAYBE FOR THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON THE STATE SYSTEM, MAYBE ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS MIGHT HAVE THE INFO ON THE NEW SYSTEM.

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I WENT ON THE WEBSITE WHILE WE WERE DOING THE ZOOM CALL AND SAW THAT THERE IS THIS DPS TECH SYSTEM.

BUT AGAIN, THE JP'S WEREN'T AWARE OF IT. NOW THERE ARE COUNTIES ALREADY USING THE TECH SYSTEM AND THEY HAVE SOME GOOD DATA ABOUT COMPLIANCE.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THE JP'S WERE OPEN TO IT, BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEING BETTER COMPLIANCE.

SO THEY HAVE SOME APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISONS ON THE NUMBERS.

SO AT THIS POINT, WHAT I TOLD THE GROUPS, I SAID, LOOK, THERE'S DISCRETIONARY SPENDING AND COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THERE'S NOT A DISCRETIONARY SPENDING AND NONDISCRETIONARY SPENDING IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE JUDICIARY.

THE COURT REALLY HAS TO SUPPORT THE JUDICIARY AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS, AND THEY'VE MADE CLEAR TO THE JUDGE AND MYSELF THAT AND OTHERS PROBABLY HERE ON THE COURT THAT THEY NEED THIS TOOL IN ORDER TO DO ENFORCEMENT.

AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING LITIGATED ON BECAUSE WE'RE DENYING THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEIR WORK.

SO I GUESS AT THIS POINT, THAT KIND OF FILLS THE COURT IN ON THAT CONVERSATION.

THERE'S PROBABLY SOME GUESTS HERE WHO HAVE OTHER DETAILS THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER WITHOUT MY NOTES.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS ORIGINALLY APPROACHING THIS AS, YOU KNOW, COMPLIMENTARY.

THE TEXT WAS AN ADD ON, BUT I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COSTS OF A DIRECT MAIL PIECE VERSUS A TEXT, THE TEXT IS A LOT CHEAPER, RIGHT? SO IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE TEXTING AND REMOVE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL MAIL. I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES HAVE ELIMINATED MAIL ENTIRELY AND ARE SOLELY USING TEXT.

BUT IF YOU'RE ABLE TO, YEAH. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU COULD REDUCE THE OVERALL COST OF THE PROGRAM SIGNIFICANTLY.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET MORE DATA ON THAT AND SEE COUNTIES WHO HAVE IMPLEMENTED THAT TEXTING.

AND HAS IT BEEN A HYBRID WITH MAIL OR HAS IT BEEN EXCLUSIVELY TEXT? BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE.

CAN I HAVE A LET'S GET A DOCTOR. LET'S GET OMNI BASE UP HERE.

LET ME HAVE Y'ALL. YOU'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS YOU'VE HEARD.

AND IF YOU'LL STAY, I WANT YOU ALL TO STAY. BECAUSE APPARENTLY, I BELIEVE SOME OF THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ARE BACK.

SO WHAT'S YOUR TAKE AWAY FROM ALL THIS? WELL, I THINK TEXT MESSAGING IS SOMETHING THAT'S BECOMING MUCH MORE PREVALENT.

I USED TO BE THE YOUNG BUCK MILLENNIAL. NOW I'M EVEN GETTING PHASED OUT AND HITTING THAT MIDDLE AREA.

BUT YOU WANT IT IN PAPER, RIGHT? YOU WANT EVERYTHING IN WRITING, RIGHT? WELL, I PREFER THAT AND OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION, BUT RIGHT ON THE CUSP OF A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T CHECK THEIR MAIL ONCE A WEEK, ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND SO TEXT MESSAGING IS ANOTHER FORM OF COMMUNICATION, VERY LOW COST, LOW STRESS ON UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AS A COMPLIMENTARY TOOL.

SO WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUE OF FAIRNESS, EQUITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ALL ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH? HOW CAN YOU ASSURE THE COURT THAT OMNIBUS IS TRYING TO DO THEIR VERY BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT RUNNING A SYSTEM THAT IS OVERLY PUNITIVE? SO A LOT OF THAT IS BASED ON THE COURT ITSELF.

WE DIRECT THE INDIVIDUALS TO THE COURT, LET THEM KNOW THEIR OPTIONS WHEN DEALING WITH THE COURT.

DIFFERENT COURTS HAVE DIFFERENT SETS OF OPTIONS, SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO BASICALLY, THEY JUST NEED TO WORK WITH THE COURT IN ORDER TO RESOLVE THAT IN COURTS, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THE GPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, GRANT A LOT OF LENIENCY, WAIVE A LOT OF FEES REDUCE FINES AND FEES AND ALL OF THAT.

IN THOSE INSTANCES WHEN THE INDIVIDUALS SHOW UP TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR STUFF.

ANY FURTHER COMMENT? IF NOT, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

AND IF YOU WOULD JUST WAIT, I WANT TO SEE IF RYAN MAKSOUD.

DID YOU COME BACK AFTER LUNCH? THERE YOU ARE.

YOU HAD THREE MINUTES, MR. RYAN, AND THEN AFTER THAT WILL BE YVONNE.

LONDON IRONSTONE. YOU CAME BACK OKAY? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU EVERYONE. MY NAME IS RYAN MAKSOUD. I'M AN ATTORNEY THAT PRACTICES IN JP MUNICIPAL COURTS IN THE AREA.

I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO COLLECT MORE MONEY FOR THE COUNTY TREASURY.

BY ENDING THE CONTRACT THAT FORCES COUNTY RESIDENTS TO PAY MILLIONS TO A PRIVATE COMPANY IN AUSTIN.

THE DATA SHOWS THAT TAKING AWAY THE LICENSES OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THOUSANDS IN TICKETS IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE GOALS OF RESOLVING THEM.

HARRIS COUNTY AND THE AUSTIN AND DALLAS CITY COUNCILS ENDED THEIR CONTRACTS WITH OMNIBUS FOUR YEARS AGO, RESULTING IN SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED COLLECTIONS FROM THEIR COURTS FROM 2019 TO 2024.

COLLECTIONS PER NEW CASE FILED IN THE DALLAS MUNICIPAL COURT INCREASED 18% FROM $131 TO $155 FOR AUSTIN'S MUNICIPAL COURT.

THERE WAS A STAGGERING 80% INCREASE FROM $181 TO $327.

THE FINE AND FEE SCHEDULES DO NOT ADJUST WITH INFLATION, AND THE DATA SHOWS THAT THE INCREASE INSTEAD CAME FROM A HIGHER PROPORTION OF DISPOSED

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CASES BEING OLD CASES, THE KIND OF CASES THAT WOULD BE ON OMNIBUS.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY OFF OLD TICKETS WHEN THEY CAN DRIVE TO WORK, OR DON'T RACK UP EVEN MORE TICKETS FOR DRIVING WITH AN INVALID LICENSE.

IN THE RARE CASE OF SOMEONE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY BUT DOES NOT.

WE ALREADY HAVE WARRANTS TO FORCE PEOPLE TO COME TO COURT, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE UNAWARE.

A FEW MONTHS AGO, I OBSERVED A WOMAN IN HER 30S BE TAKEN FROM A DOWNTOWN COURTHOUSE HERE TO AN OUTLYING BEXAR COUNTY JP COURT WITH NO TRANSPORTATION BACK.

SHE WAS BROUGHT EMBARRASSED, SHACKLED AND IN CHAINS IN ANKLE CHAINS, AND HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON UNTIL SHE WAS TOLD SHE HAD A SPEEDING TICKET 15 YEARS AGO, BACK WHEN SHE WAS 17. THAT SHE WAS UNAWARE WAS STILL UNRESOLVED.

THE SAME DAY, IN THE VERY SAME COURT, I OBSERVED ANOTHER WOMAN GET DROPPED OFF BY THE POLICE IN THE BACK OF THE COURTROOM AFTER ARRESTING HER ON A TRAFFIC WARRANT AND LEAVING HER VEHICLE TO BE TOWED FROM THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SUSPENDING THESE TWO WOMEN'S LICENSES ON TOP OF THESE WARRANT CONSEQUENCES IS SIMPLY GRATUITOUS AND STATISTICALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO EARNING THE MONEY NEEDED TO PAY OFF THESE OLD TICKETS. YOU MAY HEAR ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF WAIVING FINES AND FEES FOR THE INDIGENT, BUT THE DATA SHOWS BEXAR COUNTY GPS RARELY CHOOSE TO EXERCISE THAT DISCRETION.

THE AMOUNT OF FINES AND FEES WAIVED BY BEXAR COUNTY JP'S IN 2024 WAS LESS THAN 1% OF THE AMOUNT COLLECTED.

COMPARE THAT TO WACO MUNICIPAL COURT WITH A WAIVER RATE OF 21%.

HARDLY A BASTION OF BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS UP THERE.

AND EVEN IF FOLKS DO GET NOTICE, WHICH ARE OFTEN MAILED OUT TO OUTDATED ADDRESSES BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY THING THE COURT HAS THAT'S ON THEIR LICENSES.

PEOPLE WHO ARE AWARE DON'T COME TO COURT INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THE TICKETS, AND THEY'RE AFRAID OF GETTING ARRESTED WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO PAY.

AND WITH NO OTHER OPTIONS KNOWLEDGEABLE TO THEM, THEY DON'T SHOW UP.

BY CONTINUING BEXAR COUNTY'S PARTICIPATION IN OMNIBUS, THE BURDEN OF CRIMINALIZING DRIVING FOR DEBTORS FALL EXCLUSIVELY ON THOSE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD IT, WHO SHOULD BE HAVING THEIR FINES AND FEES AT LEAST PARTIALLY WAIVED, BUT AREN'T PAYING A PRIVATE COMPANY TO KEEP TRACK OF WHO CANNOT PAY.

JUDGE, THE TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. PLEASE EXIT OMNIBUS. YVONNE, LONDON.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS YVONNE LONDON AND I AM ONE OF THE CO-EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS OF THE TEXAS DEFENSE PROJECT.

I'M HERE TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS SOME ALTERNATIVES TO THE FAILURE TO APPEAR PROGRAM, AS DISCUSSED DURING THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING.

OUR POSITION REMAINS THAT THIS PROGRAM DOES NOT ACHIEVE ITS INTENDED PURPOSE OF HELPING LOCAL COURTS INCREASE COMPLIANCE RATES AND COLLECTIONS, AND THAT THE HOLD THAT'S PLACED ON ONE'S LICENSE FOR THEIR FAILURE TO APPEAR.

FAILURE TO PAY, CREATES DIRE COLLATERAL CONSEQUENCES FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

IT IS ALSO OUR POSITION THAT THERE ARE BETTER ALTERNATIVES TO THIS PROGRAM THAT SHOULD BE EXPLORED BY THE COURT, SUCH AS THE NEWLY IMPLEMENTED STATEWIDE COURT MESSAGING PROGRAM, REDESIGNING COURT SUMMONS FORMS AND PROVIDING INFORMATION ABOUT ALTERNATIVES TO PAYMENT ON THE COURT'S WEBSITE.

THE STATE COURT MESSAGING PROGRAM IS BASED ON HB 4293 FROM THE 87TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

IT'S A FREE PROGRAM FOR THE COURTS TO OPT INTO, AND IT WILL SEND MULTILINGUAL TEXT MESSAGES AND EMAIL REMINDERS TO DEFENDANTS ABOUT THEIR CASE. SOME PROPOSED BENEFITS ARE THAT IT WILL DECREASE THE FAILURE TO APPEAR RATES.

REDUCE THE NUMBER OF WARRANTS AND IMPROVE COMMUNITY COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC.

IT HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, AND CURRENTLY 32 COUNTIES HAVE ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM, INCLUDING TARRANT, DENTON, FORT BEND AND CAMERON.

ADDITIONALLY, AN EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVE TO THE FAILURE TO APPEAR PROGRAM WOULD BE FOR THE COURTS TO REDESIGN THEIR COURT SUMMONS FORMS. BEXAR COUNTY SHOULD REDESIGN ITS FORMS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE READABLE, CLIENT FRIENDLY, AND SUCCINCT. ONE STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN NEW YORK CITY COURTS SHOWED THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A TEXT MESSAGE REMINDER SYSTEM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE USE OF A REDESIGNED COURT SYSTEM.

COURT SUMMONS FORM ACTUALLY DECREASED FAILURE TO APPEAR RATES BY 36% WITHIN 30 DAYS.

I HAVE A COPY OF THE STUDY FOR THE COURT, AND I WOULD ASK THAT IT WOULD BE ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE, RESPECTIVELY. LASTLY, WE PROPOSED THAT THE JP COURTS MAKE ADDITIONS TO THEIR WEBSITE THAT WOULD INFORM THE PUBLIC OF ALTERNATIVES TO PAYMENT THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

FOR EXAMPLE, BOTH AUSTIN AND DALLAS, AS MENTIONED BEFORE.

THEIR MUNICIPAL COURTS OPTED OUT OF THE FAILURE TO APPEAR PROGRAM ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, AND SINCE THEN, DALLAS HAS LISTED ALL OF THEIR ALTERNATIVES TO PAYMENT PROGRAMS ON ITS WEBSITE IN A WAY THAT IS EASY TO READ AND NAVIGATE, AND. AUSTIN, ON ITS WEBSITE, HAS IMPLEMENTED AN ONLINE FINANCIAL ASSESSMENT FORM THAT CAN BE FILLED OUT BY A DEFENDANT BEFORE THE COURT HEARING, AND A DETERMINATION CAN BE MADE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR AN INDIGENCY WAIVER.

WE ASK THAT THESE ALTERNATIVES BE EXPLORED BY THE COUNTY AND IF IMPLEMENTED, WE ALSO ASK THAT THE COUNTY CONSIDER TRACKING THE PROGRESS OF THESE PROGRAMS TO COLLECT DATA ON THEIR EFFECTIVENESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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COULD I ASK YOU ALL TO FROM THE TEXAS FAIR DEFENSE PROJECT TO CONFER DOCTOR MUNOZ AT THE WITH THE COMPLETION.

ALL RIGHT. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'VE GIVEN US INFORMATION THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR OUR STAFF TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I TAKE IT. KATIE. SIROCCO.

STEVE HUERTA, YOU ALL DID NOT RETURN. KATIE GAVE HER REMARKS TO ME.

SHE CAN, SHE CAN, I CAN YOU CAN JUST. I'LL REGISTER HER REMARKS.

FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD. YOU'RE WELCOME. JUDGE, I WOULD JUST SAY WE'VE GOT SOME INTERESTING INFORMATION THAT'S JUST BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COURT THAT NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED BY THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE, AS YOU JUST SAID. AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE, YOU KNOW, A SENSE TO THE STAFF THAT, OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DATA WHEN YOU HAVE THIS BACKGROUND INFORMATION, JUST TO ANALYZE AND COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE COST BENEFITS BETWEEN THE STATE SYSTEM AND AN ODYSSEY SYSTEM, WHETHER IT'S COMPATIBLE FOR THE JP'S TO UTILIZE IN A, YOU KNOW, EASY WAY AND HOW THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING IN TERMS OF THEIR ADOPTION OF THE NEW STATE TECH SYSTEM. AND IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE IS SOME CONSENSUS TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A LOOK AT TEXT AND HOW IT CAN BE HELPING THE COUNTY WITH COMPLIANCE IN ADDITION TO THE OMNIBUS.

SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT CHANGING. THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TO MAKE A MOTION AGAINST OMNIBUS RIGHT NOW.

BUT THIS DATA IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE SOME ANALYSIS FROM YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHICH DATA ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE ONE WHERE THE STATE YOU SAID WAS USING IT I MEAN, THE DPS, ALL OF IT, ALL THE TWO SPEAKERS JUST PROVIDED BACKGROUND.

YES. OKAY. SO THEY'LL GIVE US THAT INFORMATION. YES.

OKAY. WHICH WE DON'T HAVE YET. OKAY. YEAH. HERE'S, HERE'S HERE'S SOME INFORMATION.

WE GIVE IT BACK TO YOU HERE. GIVE IT BACK TO THOMAS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES THAT AGENDA ITEM.

CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. I'VE BEEN ASKED TO ADVANCE UP TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 97.

[97. Discussion and appropriate action regarding awarding a contract to the lowest and most responsive bid submitted by Capital Excavation Company to provide for the purchase of roadway construction services for the Talley Rd. Phase II Project, Precinct 1, in the amount of $29,753,202.05, as requested by the Public Works Department; and authorizing the Purchasing Agent to execute and file the appropriate award documents for record.]

DISCUSSION, APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING AWARDING A CONTRACT TO THE LOWEST AND MOST RESPONSIVE THE BID SUBMITTED BY CAPITAL EXCAVATION COMPANY TO PROVIDE FOR THE PURCHASE OF ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE TALLY ROAD PHASE TWO PROJECT.

PRECINCT ONE, IN THE AMOUNT OF $29,753,202.05, AS REQUESTED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASING AGENT TO EXECUTE AND FILE THE APPROPRIATE AWARD DOCUMENTS.

FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO MAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE THAT TO RECOGNIZE OUR NEW BEXAR COUNTY PURCHASING AGENT, MR. GREGORY GALLOWAY. GREG, WHERE ARE YOU? OH, THERE YOU ARE.

BEFORE YOU BEGIN WITH THIS BRIEFING, COULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TAKE A MOMENT TO HIGHLIGHT YOUR BACKGROUND FOR THE COURT AND FOR THE PUBLIC? THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR.

COMMISSIONERS, DISTINGUISHED GUESTS AND BELOVED CONSTITUENTS, I'M HUMBLED AND VERY HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY REPRESENTING OUR INCREDIBLE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO STAND HERE BEFORE YOU, NOT ONLY FOR A NEW VOICE IN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT AS AN ADVOCATE FOR COLLABORATION, FOR OUR COLLABORATIVE SUCCESSES WE ACHIEVED WITHIN OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.

I AM DEEPLY COMMITTED TO STRENGTHENING THE ALLIANCE WITHIN OUR LOCAL AND REGIONAL BUSINESS PARTICIPATION, LEADING INNOVATION AND INTEND TO RE-INSTILL TRUST, CONFIDENCE AND COOPERATION WITH ALL OF OUR SISTER AFFILIATES THROUGH TRANSPARENCY, DEDICATED LEADERSHIP, DRIVING BEST PRACTICES, ALL WHILE PROVIDING MUCH NEEDED GUIDANCE AND FOSTERING COOPERATION GROWTH WITHIN OUR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS AND IN OUR PROCUREMENT APPROACH.

AT THE HEART OF OUR EFFORTS LIES OUR UNWAVERING MISSION, AND THIS IS THAT STATEMENT.

THE BEXAR COUNTY PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS DEDICATED TO DELIVERING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES, ENSURING THAT OUR CUSTOMERS RECEIVE OUTSTANDING VALUE, AND THAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS AND BUSINESS REQUIREMENTS ARE MET OR EXCEEDED.

THE MISSION IS, IS NOT JUST A STATEMENT, IT'S A PROMISE, A STANDARD AND A DRIVING FORCE BEHIND EVERYTHING THAT WE STRIVE TO ACHIEVE.

INTEGRITY AND FORWARD THINKING LEADERSHIP IS A MUST.

THEREFORE, I'M PERSONALLY ALIGNING MY APPROACH AND PURSUITS BEHIND THIS GREAT LEADERSHIP TEAM IN FRONT OF ME.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO RAISE THE BAR, EMBRACE NEW OPPORTUNITIES, AND CREATE MEANINGFUL IMPACTS THAT BENEFIT ALL OF BEXAR COUNTY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE JOURNEY AHEAD AND THE SHARED SUCCESSES WE WILL ACHIEVE TOGETHER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S TAKE UP THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 97.

SO, MR. GALLOWAY OR ART, WHO'S GOING TO PRESENT? LET'S GO. ALL RIGHT. INTRODUCE MR. ART REINHARDT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GREGORY. LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. SO GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

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ART REINHARDT, BEXAR COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS. WE HAVE A BRIEF, VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR THE AWARD OF THIS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE CORRIDOR.

THIS IS FOR OUR TALLY ROAD PROJECT. THIS IS IN FAR WEST BEXAR COUNTY.

THE OVERALL CORRIDOR BETWEEN POTRANCO ROAD AND CULEBRA IS ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF MILES.

PHASE ONE OF THE CORRIDOR WAS COMPLETED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AT A CONSTRUCTION COST OF $22 MILLION.

WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT PHASE TWO, WHICH IS ESTIMATED TO START CONSTRUCTION NEXT MONTH, AND WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR THE AWARD OF THE $29.8 MILLION CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. AND THEN WE ARE WORKING ON PHASE THREE, AS WELL AS PART OF A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT SHOULD ALSO START CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PHASE TWO PROJECT.

A BRIEF REMINDER THIS PROJECT IS FEDERALLY FUNDED THROUGH THE MPO, WHICH WILL REIMBURSE THE COUNTY 80% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

THE PROJECT SCOPES CONSIST OF EXPANDING THE TWO TWO LANE ROADWAY TO FOUR LANES WITH A CENTER TURN LANE, DRAINAGE, BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS JOINT BID WATER, WASTEWATER AND GAS IMPROVEMENTS.

THE OVERALL CORRIDOR IS ABOUT 2.4 MILES. INCLUDED IN THE CONSTRUCTION ARE TWO BRIDGES.

CONSTRUCTION, AS I MENTIONED, IS ESTIMATED TO START NEXT MONTH AND WILL LAST UNTIL DECEMBER OF 2027.

A LITTLE BIT OF SUMMARY ON THE BIDS. WE OPENED BIDS THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER, DECEMBER 13TH.

WE HAD SIX BIDDERS. THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER WAS CAPITAL EXCAVATION COMPANY.

YOU CAN SEE THE SUMMARY OF THE BID AMOUNTS HERE ON THE SCREEN OF THE TWO.

THE $29.7 MILLION, 26.4 OF THAT IS BEXAR COUNTY ROADWAY COSTS, AND THE REMAINDER, APPROXIMATELY $3.5 MILLION, IS OUR JOINT BID PARTNERS WITH SAWS AND CPS ENERGY.

SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST A MOTION TO AWARD THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO CAPITAL EXCAVATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $29.753 MILLION.

THANK YOU. ART. OF COURSE, THIS IS A HUGE DEAL IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF MY PRECINCT, AND I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY AND MET WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OUT THERE, BUT YOU'RE IN CONTINUAL COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND LETTING THEM KNOW WHEN IT'S STARTING. WHAT'S GOING ON. RIGHT. OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND MOTION. CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I ALSO WANT TO JOIN YOU, JUDGE SAKAI, IN WELCOMING GREGORY.

WELCOME TO BEXAR COUNTY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

HEARING NO FURTHER COMMENTS, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO BACK TO 96. DISCUSSION OF APPROPRIATE ACTION.

[96. (Norma Greenfield-Laborde) (Mark Gager) Discussion and appropriate action awarding a delivery order to CDW Government, LLC to provide for the purchase of Information Technology products and services to include Cisco branded hardware, software licensing, networking equipment, servers, data storage solutions, and related services in the annual amount of $406,158.74, as requested by Bexar County Information Technology; through TIPS Cooperative contract #230105, in accordance with Texas Local Government Code §271.102; allowing for future purchase orders throughout FY25; and authorizing the Purchasing Agent to execute and file the appropriate award documents for record. The annual cost is $406,158.74 per year, for a 5-year option totaling $2,030,793.70.]

AWARDING A DELIVERY TO CDW, CDW GOVERNMENT, LLC TO PROVIDE FOR THE PURCHASE OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES TO INCLUDE CISCO BRANDED HARDWARE, SOFTWARE LICENSING, NETWORK EQUIPMENT SERVICE, DATA STORAGE, SELECT SOLUTIONS, RELATED SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $406,158.74, AS REQUESTED BY BEXAR COUNTY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY THROUGH TIPS COOPERATIVE CONTRACT 230105, IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 271.102, ALLOWING FOR FUTURE PURCHASE ORDERS THROUGHOUT FY 25. AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASING AGENT TO EXECUTE THE APPROPRIATE AWARD DOCUMENTS.

FOR RECORD, THE ANNUAL COST IS $406,158.74 PER YEAR, FOR A FIVE YEAR OPTION OF 2,033,000 $330,793.70 MARK GAGER. GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I'M MARK GAGER, CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER. I THINK THAT CAPTION WILL PROBABLY TAKE LONGER.

THIS ITEM TAKES. SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY FOR THE SOFTWARE FOR OUR NETWORK.

SO WE HAVE APPLIANCES, NETWORK APPLIANCES THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR BEXAR COUNTY FACILITIES.

ALL OF THAT CONVERGES IN WHAT'S A HYPER CONVERGED NETWORK IN OUR DATA CENTERS AT THE EOC AND AT QUARRY RUN.

SO THIS IS FOR THE SOFTWARE THAT CONTROLS BASICALLY THE BRAINS OF OUR NETWORK AND OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR STORAGE AND OUR COMPUTE. SO IF WE DID IT ANNUALLY, THE COST WOULD BE ABOUT $725,000.

THIS YEAR. BY NEGOTIATING AN ENTERPRISE LICENSE, WE SAVE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD ABOUT $2 MILLION.

SO. SO THIS IS FOR THAT APPROVAL OF THIS YEAR'S $406,000, AS WELL AS THE AUTHORIZATION TO RENEW ANNUALLY UP TO FIVE YEARS.

MOVE FOR APPROVAL. MOTION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND. BY. MR.. COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE.

CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. MR.. GAGER. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 98.

[98. Presentation, discussion and appropriate action regarding adoption of the "Third Amended Order of Commissioners Court Adopting Procedures for Abatement of Refuse and Other Nuisances from Neighborhoods Pursuant to Texas Health and Safety Code, Chapter 343". Precincts 1,2,3,4.]

PRESENTATION. DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING ADOPTION OF THIRD AMENDED ORDER.

COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADOPTING PROCEDURES FOR ABATEMENT OF REFUSE OR OTHER NUISANCES FROM NEIGHBORHOODS PURSUANT TO TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE, CHAPTER THREE, FOUR, THREE AND PRECINCTS ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.

DOCTOR. GUERRERO. HELLO, DOCTOR. ANDREA GUERRERO, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH FOR BEXAR COUNTY,

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UNDER THE PURVIEW OF PUBLIC HEALTH. WHEN THE DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES CAME UNDER THAT UMBRELLA, AND THIS ISSUE CAME UP AS I WAS MEETING WITH STAFF DURING THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS FOR LAST YEAR AND GOING OVER THE ABATEMENT BUDGET.

SO THIS IS A BUDGETED ITEM. THE MONEY THAT IS IN THE IN THE APPROVED BUDGET TO OR TO PAY FOR THE CLEANUP OF NUISANCE PROPERTIES AND GENERALLY NUISANCE PROPERTIES. WE BECOME AWARE OF THEM BECAUSE OF A CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS OFTENTIMES THROUGH YOUR THROUGH YOUR OFFICES, SOMETIMES THROUGH A DIRECT CALL TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND THERE IS A COURT ORDER THAT GOVERNS HOW THESE ABATEMENTS ARE CARRIED OUT.

SO DURING THAT BUDGET PROCESS, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE EVENT OF OR WHAT HAPPENS IN THE EVENT OF.

AND EVENTUALLY WE CAME TO A QUESTION WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS A DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY? AND WE REVIEWED THE COURT ORDER, REVIEWED THE COURT ORDER WITH THE CIVIL DIVISION AND TECHNICALLY THE COURT ORDER, WE COULD HAVE ABATED A DWELLING IF IT HAD BECOME A PUBLIC SAFETY NUISANCE.

BUT WE I HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THAT, BASICALLY TEARING DOWN A STRUCTURE.

AND SO I VISITED WITH LARRY AND THE CIVIL DIVISION, AND UPON THEIR RECOMMENDATION, THEY ASKED US TO REVISE THIS COURT ORDER ALLOWING FOR ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE WHEN THERE WAS THE PRESENCE OF A DWELLING, EVEN WHATEVER STATE IT WAS IN, MAYBE IT WAS COMPLETELY BURNED OUT, WHICH IS THE CASE WITH MANY OF THEM. OR IT'S FALLING DOWN TO A POINT WHERE IT CAN'T BE RESURRECTED.

AND SO THE REVISION AND WHAT THIS PRESENTATION IS, IS TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED TO US BY THE CIVIL DIVISION IN ORDER TO ABATE THOSE TYPES OF PROPERTIES.

SO THE JUST IN GENERAL, THE OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES THAT WILL AMEND WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION LOOKS LIKE FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES TO ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, IT CLARIFIES OUR PROCEDURES, AS I MENTIONED, AND ADDS A CLAUSE REQUIRING COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVAL PRIOR TO ABATING A STRUCTURE, A DWELLING, I SHOULD SAY. MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE LAST TIME THIS COURT ORDER WAS REVISED WAS IN 2010, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR.

PREVIOUS TO THAT WAS IN 22,005. SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS.

AND SO IT'S JUST SORT OF TIME. I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE SLIDES AND I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE STEP.

BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROCESSES DEPENDING ON SORT OF HOW, HOW WE FIND THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS JUST TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE STEPS ALONG THE WAY, MULTIPLE STEPS TO NOTIFY A PROPERTY OWNER WHERE WHEN WE KNOW WHO IT IS AND IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PRESENT AND CARING FOR THE PROPERTY, THAT MEANS THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY LIVING THERE.

AND SO IF THERE'S ABATEMENT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, CERTIFIED LETTERS, POSTING ON PROPERTY STAYING IN CONTACT, AND AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, THERE IS SOME RELIEF IN THE FORM OF AN APPEAL FOR PROPERTY OWNER TO COME BACK TO EITHER JP OR COUNTY COURT AND ASK FOR MORE TIME, PAY A FINE OR APPEAL A FINE, BUT ALWAYS THAT THERE IS SOME SOME WAY TO RESOLVE THIS.

IN THE SECOND PROCEDURE, WHEN THERE IS NO OWNER THAT IS IDENTIFIABLE, BUT SOMEONE IS RESIDING AND IS IN CUSTODY OF THE PROPERTY.

IN CASES WHERE WE CAN'T IDENTIFY THE OWNER, THAT COULD BE IN CASES WHERE THE OWNER IS DECEASED AND LEFT NO RELATIVES, OR THEY'VE MOVED OUT OF STATE OR OUT OF, YOU KNOW, OUT OF A JURISDICTION WHERE THEY'VE LEFT NO ADDRESS, WHERE THEY CAN BE REACHED BY CERTIFIED LETTER OR ANY OTHER METHOD OF NOTIFICATION.

BUT THERE IS A PERSON THAT'S RESIDING ON THE PROPERTY.

OFTENTIMES THEY SAY, I HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BE HERE.

AND SO IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO NOTIFY THE PERSON THAT IS ON SITE AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ABATE THE PROPERTY, AND IF NOT, THEN WE WOULD BRING THAT ABATEMENT TO COMMISSIONERS COURT AND ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE ABATEMENT.

THE LAST IS THE WHEN THERE IS A DWELLING THAT IS AND THE COURT ORDER SPECIFICALLY INDICATES A DWELLING.

SO IT'S NOT JUST AN OUTBUILDING OR A SHED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THIS WOULD BE A HOUSE OR SOME, SOME FORM OF A, OF A DWELLING THAT MAYBE A MOBILE HOME THAT WAS OCCUPIED BUT IS NOW NOT OCCUPIED.

USUALLY IN THE ONES THAT WE'VE BEEN NOTIFIED OF ARE BURNED OUT STRUCTURES.

SO AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THE EXACT SAME PROCESS WHERE THE OWNER EITHER FAILS TO RESPOND OR IS NOT RESPONSIVE OR FAILS TO ABATE WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF

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TIME, WE WOULD BRING THAT PROPERTY TO YOU AND ASK YOU FOR APPROVAL TO ABATE THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE OR THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE.

AND THEN LIENS WOULD BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE HOMEOWNER OR FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES. THESE THESE PICTURES KIND OF DON'T DO IT JUSTICE, BUT CLEARLY YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE NOT HABITABLE.

AND THEY HAVE CREATED A PUBLIC NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

AND SOMETIMES A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT TRIES TO TO BE ON THE PROPERTY OR LIVE THERE.

MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. ANY QUESTION OR COMMENT? COMMISSIONER CALVERT. JUST A LITTLE DISCUSSION.

IN THE TEN YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, IT IS. THERE'S NEVER REALLY A CIRCUMSTANCE.

ONCE WE BEGIN THE ABATEMENT PROCESS THAT THE COURT MEMBERS HAVE EVER SAID, WE NEED TO STOP IT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THESE ARE USUALLY REALLY EGREGIOUS CASES THAT EVERYONE AGREES NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THE PROCESS IS EXCEEDINGLY LONG FOR AN URBAN COUNTY.

SO MY CONCERN ABOUT COMING BACK TO THE COURT IS WHEN YOU DO.

I WOULD PREFER A PROCESS THAT MUCH, LIKE WHEN WE GO INTO A NEGOTIATION OVER A CONTRACT, THAT WE GIVE YOU AN INITIAL THUMBS UP. ONCE YOU'RE STARTING TO GO THROUGH THAT COURT PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GO TO JP.

I MEAN, THAT WE ACTUALLY THAT STRIKE THAT THAT ONCE YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO AN ABATEMENT PROCESS, THAT YOU ACTUALLY BRING IT TO COURT AND WE GIVE A THUMBS UP ABOUT OUR INITIAL APPROVAL AND THEN IT COULD COME POTENTIALLY BACK, GIVING THE PROPERTY OWNER AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL, ALBEIT I'VE NEVER HAD ANYONE DO SO.

THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN.

GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL AT THE AT THE LAST MINUTE SO THAT WE DON'T SLOW IT DOWN BECAUSE GETTING ON THE COURT AGENDAS, THEY'VE ALREADY THE NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY WAITED LIKE NINE MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT IS.

AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO PUT ON THE COURT, WE COULD BE WAITING ANOTHER 60 DAYS, DEPENDING ON HOW IT GETS ON THE AGENDA PROCESS.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN, IS THAT WE DON'T SLOW THESE THINGS DOWN BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS, WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS YOU END UP GETTING A REPORTER CALLING AND SAYING, WHY HASN'T THE COUNTY DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? AND WE HAVEN'T ADEQUATELY EXPLAINED? WELL, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT, BUT WE'RE SORRY.

THE STATE LAW TAKES SO LONG AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY 3 OR 4 MONTHS WE GO THROUGH A PRESS STORY WHERE THE PRESS DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THIS LONG PROCESS. SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME SORT OF HAPPY MEDIUM IN TERMS OF MOVING THESE THINGS FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? LET ME JUST SAY THIS, DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME ON A HELICOPTER RIDE.

LET ME EXPLAIN THAT FULLY FOR THE COURT. DOCTOR GARY WANTED ME TO WITH THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THE CODE COMPLIANCE, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. EXCUSE ME. SORRY, SIR. TO LOOK OVER NOT ALL THE COUNTY, BUT PARTS OF THE COUNTY THAT ARE MOST PROBLEMATIC.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, I THINK YOU'RE VERY, VERY AWARE THAT A LOT OF THOSE SITES ARE IN YOUR PRECINCT.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. THEY'RE ALSO SIGNIFICANT.

I HAVE NOTED THAT JUST BY THAT OVERVIEW FROM UP TOP, HOW PROBLEMATIC IT IS. WE HAVE SOME AS WE KNOW. WHAT IS IT? THE OLD TIRE DUMPS.

WE HAVE SHINGLES DUMPS THAT ARE JUST SOMEHOW THEY'RE ABLE TO POP UP BECAUSE OF, I DON'T KNOW, PROPERTY OWNERS OR PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO DUMP THEIR REFUSE, ESPECIALLY CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN WE SAW SOME UNAUTHORIZED BURNING BURN PITS.

SO THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR ME AS COUNTY JUDGE. I SEE THIS AS PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND SO I HAVE GIVEN MY PERSONAL OPINION TO DOCTOR GUERRERO AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES THAT I WANT.

AND I THINK COMMISSIONER CALVERT, THIS FOLLOWS THAT WE WANT TO SEE A AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT AND ENSURING DUE PROCESS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO, BEING A FORMER JUDGE, UNDERSTAND AND THE ISSUES OF GOING INTO THE COURT SYSTEM ESPECIALLY, I THINK WHAT I LEARNED WAS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE CRIMINAL CHARGES FILED IN REGARDS TO THAT IF THERE ARE INTENTIONAL CONDUCT,

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BUT APPARENTLY SOMETIMES THE COURT SYSTEM DOESN'T GIVE THESE CASES A LOT OF PRIORITY.

OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CREATING AN ISSUE, BUT I THINK THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO THIS SHOULD BE TREATED ACCORDINGLY AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED ACCORDINGLY. SO I AM GOING TO BE ASKING THE COURT AT SOME POINT TO CONSIDER WHAT RESOURCES DOCTOR GUERRERO AND HER ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES MAY NEED. I PRESUME THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION.

DOCTOR GURLEY IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND THAT I EXPECT TO SEE A ROBUST ENFORCEMENT, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE SITES THAT ARE A PUBLIC DANGER TO OUR COMMUNITY. IS THAT IS THAT PRETTY MUCH SUM UP WHAT I'VE SAID TO YOU? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. IS WE HAD A MOTION. CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR G. THANK YOU. 99 DISCUSSION.

[99. Discussion and appropriate action regarding Bexar County's Legislative Program and the 89th Session of the Texas Legislature.]

APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING BEXAR COUNTY LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AND THE 89TH SESSION OF THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. MELISSA SHANNON, GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR IN THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

WHAT THOMAS IS PASSING OUT TO YOU NOW IS WHAT I WILL COMPILE FOR YOU.

EACH COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING. SO I SEND OUT MY WEEKLY EMAIL TO YOU AND YOUR OFFICES THAT HAS WHAT WE CALL OUR MASTER BILL REPORT OR MASTER TRACKING REPORT.

YOU'LL HEAR ME CALL IT THAT. THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE OF PARTICULAR CONCERN.

OR MAYBE IT'S. IT'S A GOOD THING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M BRINGING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SO THESE ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE ARE STARTING TO MOVE.

AND I WANT TO TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE ITEMS. SO THE THE FIRST TWO PAGES IS AN QUICK OVERVIEW OF THOSE ITEMS. AND I WILL GO THROUGH THIS ONE BY ONE.

BUT THEN THE NEXT THREE PAGES ARE THE SAME ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED.

THEY'RE JUST NOT. THIS IS FROM OUR CANNED LEGISLATIVE TRACKING SYSTEM.

SO I DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY OF RUNNING THIS REPORT TO PUT THEM IN A PARTICULAR ORDER.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S JUST BY BILL NUMBER. SO THE FIRST TWO PAGES ARE COMPILED INTO SECTIONS THAT MATCH UP WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM. SO THE FIRST FOUR ITEMS ON YOUR LIST ARE OUR INITIATIVES.

AND JUST TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ITEMS THAT ARE ON YOUR STATE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT WE ARE SEEKING SOME SORT OF STATUTE CHANGE OR A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY.

SO THESE ARE ITEMS THAT I WILL BE ACTIVELY WORKING AT THE STATE LEVEL.

SO I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THOSE AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THE PROCESS.

THE FIRST ITEM ARE OUR BUILDING PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS TO ALLOW COUNTY STAFF, FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO INSPECT COUNTY OWNED OR WHOLLY LEASED BUILDINGS.

WE WILL ALLEVIATE THE NEED FOR US TO PAY A MUNICIPALITY TO DO THIS FOR US, SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT IS ABLE TO DO THIS WITHIN THE COUNTY, AND IT SHOULD CUT BACK ON TIMING OF OUR PROJECTS PROJECTS AS WELL, TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE THE DAYS THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR INSPECTIONS.

AS YOU KNOW, YOU APPROVED YOUR AGENDA. I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER 12TH.

SO WHERE WE'RE AT IN, WE'RE BEHIND THE GUN. SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT OTHER THAN JUST SAY IT, THAT WE ARE STILL WAITING. SOME OF OUR BILLS TO BE DRAFTED.

SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN RECEIVED DRAFT BILLS YET BACK FROM LEDGE COUNCIL BECAUSE LEDGE COUNCIL, THE STAFF OF LAWYERS THAT DRAFT THESE ARE EXTREMELY BACKED UP.

THIS IS ONE IN PARTICULAR. I JUST GOT BACK ON FRIDAY THOUGH, SO I DO HAVE A BILL DRAFT NOW.

I'M SHOPPING FOR A SPONSOR, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT AT THE MOMENT.

I AM TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO FILE THIS FOR US.

THE NEXT ONE, THE FEDERAL POSTCARD APPLICATION REGISTRANTS ON EARLY VOTING LIST.

THE MILITARY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN MILITARY SERVICE AND ARE SERVING OVERSEAS AND END UP BACK IN THEIR HOME PRECINCT WHO HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THE BALLOT IN THE MAIL TO WHEREVER THEIR DUTY STATION IS.

ONCE THEY COME BACK AND THEY AND THEY'RE AT THEIR HOME PRECINCT, THEIR NAME COMES OFF OF THAT EARLY VOTING LIST.

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SO THERE'S A TIMING ISSUE. IF THEY CAN COME BACK EARLY AND THEY WANT WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO VOTE EARLY.

THAT ONE IS STILL STUCK IN LEDGE COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE A BILL DRAFT ON THAT ONE YET.

FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST LOAN REPAYMENT PROGRAM TO TRY AND GET THE STATE TO SET UP A FUND TO FOR LOAN FORGIVENESS.

LOAN REPAYMENT FOR THOSE THAT GO INTO THE FORENSIC PATHOLOGY FIELD TO TRY AND ENCOURAGE FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN OUR M.E.

OFFICES. I'M WORKING ON THAT, TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO HELP US MOVE THAT THROUGH THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS.

AND THEN LASTLY, THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE ELECTION, TRYING TO GET THE ABILITY FOR US TO ASK THE VOTERS IF THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO INCREASE OUR CURRENT $10 VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE.

THAT GOES TO THE MMA TO INCREASE THAT TO ADD ANOTHER $10 TO GO UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 20.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A STAFF TO STAFF HAS A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY WITH SENATE RESEARCH TO GIVE THEM SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS, AND THEY CAN WRITE THEIR ANALYSIS. SO THIS IS A GOOD THING.

WE'RE WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF TRACTION FINALLY.

WE ALWAYS SEEM TO GET STONEWALLED IN ONE PARTICULAR LEADERSHIP OFFICE AND NEVER COULD GET THIS TO SHAKE LOOSE.

WE HAVE A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY. STAFF TO STAFF.

AND THEN FRIDAY, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

SO IT WILL BE THE INCOMING ARMA. ALAMO ARMA CHAIR.

MR.. HAZEL. WALTER SERNA FROM THE BOARD. AND ART REINHARDT AND MYSELF WILL MEET WITH AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ON FRIDAY TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THIS REQUEST. AND THAT ITEM JUST CAME OUT.

ALLEGED COUNCIL TODAY. SO AS I WAS SITTING IN THE BACK ROOM, I WAS NEGOTIATING WITH AN OFFICE TO TRY AND HOPEFULLY GET THAT FILED FOR US FOR AN ELECTION. OR IS THAT FOR AN ELECTION? YES, SIR.

THE CITIZENS WOULD DECIDE. EXACTLY. I CAN'T RECALL WHEN WE STARTED THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX.

IT WAS COURT COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONERS. COURT IN MAY THAT AUTHORIZED IT.

CORRECT? OKAY. GOT IT. YES, SIR. YES, WE ARE JUST.

IT WON'T BE AN AUTOMATIC. WE'RE JUST ASKING THE VOTERS IF THEY'RE AMENABLE TO IT.

AND WE JUST WANT THE ABILITY TO ASK THE VOTERS.

SO NOW I'LL GET INTO OUR POLICIES. THESE ARE OUR POLICY STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME DIRECTION ON.

THIS HELPS ME KNOW WHAT YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AS A BODY.

AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE BILLS THAT FALL UNDER THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA THAT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT MAY HELP OR HARM US. SO THE FIRST ITEM IS SB NINE, RELATING TO THE RELEASE OF DEFENDANTS ON BAIL.

THE DUTIES OF A MAGISTRATE IN CERTAIN CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS, AND THE REGULATION OF CHARITABLE CHARITABLE BAIL ORGANIZATIONS.

THIS ITEM HAS ALREADY MOVED THROUGH THE SENATE CHAMBER.

IT'S MOVED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS. SO THIS IS A LOW BILL NUMBER.

THIS IS ONE OF THE GOVERNOR'S PRIORITY ITEMS. SO IT'S ON A ROCKET SHIP CAME OUT OF THE SENATE.

NOW IT'S IN THE HOUSE. SO WHAT I WILL TELL YOU ON THAT IS HOUSE COMMITTEES ARE JUST STARTING TO MEET. SO THIS ONE HAS NOT EVEN BEEN IT HAS TO BE READ FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HOUSE CHAMBER.

IT HAS NOT BEEN READ. THEY'VE NOT STARTED ASSIGNING BILLS OUT OF THE HOUSE YET.

SO IT'S SITTING IN THE HOUSE WAITING TO GET MOVED TO A COMMITTEE, AND THEN IT'LL GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS THERE.

SO AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT THIS BILL DOES IT ADDS SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE CAN WHERE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ALLOW INDIVIDUALS OUT ON BAIL.

SO FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY CONVICTED OF TWO OR MORE FELONY OFFENSES CHARGED WITH VIOLENT VIOLENT FELONY OFFENSES SUCH AS MURDER, CAPITAL MURDER, AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT, AGGRAVATED KIDNAPING OR AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, AND CHARGED WITH A FELONY, AND THAT IS ALSO DETAINED WITH A CONCURRENT IMMIGRATION HOLD.

SO ANY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ARRESTED WITH THOSE ITEMS IN IN THAT CHARGE, WE CANNOT ALLOW THEM OUT ON PERSONAL BAIL. ALSO, THIS AFFECTS THE CHARITABLE BAIL ORGANIZATIONS.

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IT ADDS TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT IN THEIR REPORTING TO THE STATE.

SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S RECEIVED IN THE HOUSE AND AS SOON AS IT STARTS MOVING THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS, I WILL LET YOU KNOW. BUT ANOTHER IT'S A PRIORITY ITEM.

NUMBER TWO IS UNDER OUR COUNTY FUNDING AND REVENUES, SB 867 RELATING TO HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. I THIS IS ONE THAT AND I CAN'T I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY IN IN OPEN COURT.

I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ HAS BEEN BRIEFED ON IT AT URBAN COUNTY'S MEETINGS AND DURING THE POLICY COMMITTEE.

BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH HOUSING FINANCE CORP'S THROUGHOUT THE STATE? IS THAT THEY ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR HOME JURISDICTION AND GOING INTO OTHER COUNTIES.

THESE HFCS ARE BUYING UP PROPERTIES AND TAKING THEM OFF OF THE TAX ROLLS.

SO CAMERON COUNTY WAS ONE OF THE EARLY HOUSING FINANCE CORP'S THAT NOT CAMERON COUNTY, BUT THE HOUSING FINANCE CORP IN CAMERON COUNTY IS ONE OF THOSE WHO WAS EARLY ON WHO HAS DONE THIS.

SO THIS BILL IS MOVED INTO COMMITTEE. IT'S NOT.

YEAH. SO ON THE 13TH OF THE MONTH IT WAS INTRODUCED AND REFERRED TO COMMITTEE, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN HEARD IN THE SENATE COMMITTEE YET.

SO IT'S STILL PENDING THERE. NEXT IS SB 982 RELATING TO APPEALS TO JUSTICE COURTS OF CERTAIN APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD ORDERS. THIS ONE IS REFERRED TO COMMITTEE.

SAME DAY. SO FEBRUARY 13TH IT WAS REFERRED TO THE SENATE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE.

SO IT'S PENDING IN COMMITTEE. WHAT THIS ONE WILL DO IS A PROPERTY OWNER COULD APPEAL THEIR APPRAISAL REVIEW TO THE JP COURT VERSUS DISTRICT COURT. SO THIS COULD THIS COULD BOG UP THE JP COURTS.

SO IT'S SITTING IN COMMITTEE AT THE MOMENT BUT IT I'M I'LL BET MONEY IT WILL IT WILL GET A HEARING AND IT WILL MOVE.

THE NEXT ONE UNDER COUNTYWIDE POLLING SB 76. THIS IS ELIMINATION OF COUNTYWIDE POLLING.

SO THAT IS AN ITEM THAT I DEFINITELY KNOW THAT THIS COURT WAS THAT YOU WERE AGAINST, THAT YOU GAVE CLEAR DIRECTION TO OPPOSE THAT ONE. OR ANY OF THOSE BILLS. WHAT I WILL SAY IN OPEN COURT IS BASED ON THE MAKEUP OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE THAT THIS WILL GO THROUGH.

I DON'T SEE I DON'T HAVE HIGH HOPES OF IT MOVING VERY QUICKLY, SO I, I WILL CONTINUE.

I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT. I WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT, BUT DON'T STRESS IT AT THE MOMENT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

SO. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU DON'T HAVE HIGH HOPES THAT IT PASSES, WHICH IS GOOD FOR OUR PRIORITY.

YES, SIR. OKAY. EXACTLY. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, UNDER LOCAL CONTROL, SB 40, THAT IS. RELATING TO THE USE BY A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO PAY BONDS.

SO THIS GOES BACK TO NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS BAILING INDIVIDUALS OUT OF JAIL.

THIS ONE IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE PRIORITY BILLS FOR THE GOVERNOR.

IT HAS MOVED THROUGH THE SENATE PROCESS AND IS SITTING IN THE HOUSE WAITING TO TO MOVE THROUGH THERE.

SO BASICALLY IT IT SAYS THAT POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS CANNOT USE PUBLIC FUNDS TO PAY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ACCEPT FUNDS FOR BAIL. SO WE WILL WATCH THAT ONE VERY CLOSELY.

NEXT, UNDER THE LAST ONE ON THAT PAGE, UNDER LOCAL CONTROL, SB 330 RELATING TO AN ELECTION TO APPROVE A REDUCTION OR REALLOCATION OF FUNDING OR RESOURCES FOR CERTAIN COUNTY PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE.

THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT YOU HEARD ABOUT LAST SESSION, ABOUT DEFUNDING SHERIFF'S OFFICES, WHERE WE WE HAVE WE'RE UNABLE TO DEFUND SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SAME THING.

NOW, THE LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING TO REQUIRE US TO HOLD AN ELECTION

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IF WE TRY TO DEFUND THE DA'S OFFICE. THE NEXT PAGE IS WE ONLY HAVE THREE MORE ITEMS. BEAR WITH ME. NEXT PAGE IS 511 SENATE BILL 511 RELATING TO PROHIBITING AN OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF THE STATE, OR OF A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE FROM DISTRIBUTING CERTAIN VOTER REGISTRATION APPLICATION FORMS. THIS BILL EARLY IN FEBRUARY FEBRUARY 3RD, WAS INTRODUCED TO COMMITTEE.

SO IT'S WAITING TO BE HEARD IN THE SENATE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.

AND THIS PROHIBITS DISTRIBUTION OF VOTER REGISTRATION APPLICATION FORMS TO INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT REQUEST THEM.

RESTRICTS THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO FACILITATE THE DISTRIBUTION BY OTHERS.

THE POLITICAL PARTY OR A CANDIDATE WILL ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT MAY BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE.

NUMBER EIGHT AND SB 690, RELATING TO THE AUTHORITY OF SHERIFFS AND CONSTABLES TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS TO PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES IN CERTAIN COUNTIES AND COUNTY FINANCIAL AUTHORITY IN RELATION TO SHERIFFS AND CONSTABLES.

THIS ONE TWO HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

AND WHAT THIS DOES IS IN COUNTIES WITH A POPULATION GREATER THAN 1 MILLION, WITH NO OVERSIGHT BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, A SHERIFF OR A CONSTABLE MAY ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION OR AN OWNER OF LAND IN A SUBDIVISION TO PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES. THE BASICALLY THE SHERIFF AND OR THE CONSTABLE HAVE COMPLETE AUTONOMY WITH THIS FUNDING TAKES TAKES YOUR AUTHORITY AWAY. AND LASTLY IS 878, RELATING TO THE LIMITATIONS ON THE USE OF PUBLIC MONEY UNDER CERTAIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR PROGRAMS ADOPTED BY CERTAIN POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS.

THAT ONE TWO HAS BEEN REFERRED TO SENATE COMMITTEE PENDING A HEARING.

SO BASICALLY, A COUNTY MAY NOT GRANT AN EXCEPTION OR AN EXEMPTION.

SORRY, MAY NOT GRANT AN EXEMPTION OR OTHER RELIEF FROM AD VALOREM TAXATION UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 381.

SO WE CAN ONLY ABATE. WE CAN ONLY ENTER INTO TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENTS UNDER TAX CODE CHAPTER 312. SO WE CAN'T USE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 381 TO DO LIKE AN INCENTIVE TYPE AGREEMENT LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING.

JUDGE? YES. COULD I ASK A QUESTION? YES. SO 381.

THAT'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STATUTE? YES.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T GRANT AN ABATEMENT FOR THE NEXT TOYOTA THAT COMES.

YOU CAN, BUT IT HAS TO. YOU CAN'T USE CHAPTER 380.

SO SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, AND WE'RE NOT ALONE IN DOING THIS, IS WE HAVE USED 381 GRANT AGREEMENTS AT THE COUNTY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES IN THAT WE GRANT BACK FUNDING.

SO INSTEAD OF ABATING AUTOMATICALLY ON THE FRONT END, AN ORGANIZATION, AN ENTITY THAT MAY BE BRINGING SOME TYPE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT TO THE COMMUNITY, ADDING JOBS, INVESTMENT, WHATEVER WE MAY HAVE USED A CHAPTER 381 GRANT AGREEMENT, THEY PAY THEIR TAXES AND THEN WE WOULD GRANT BACK A PORTION OF THAT FUNDING TO THEM TO ACT AS AN INCENTIVE, SO WE WOULD NO LONGER BE BE ABLE TO USE THAT MECHANISM AS SUCH.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. I'M JUST TRYING.

I REALLY NEED TO DIG INTO 312 TO SEE WHAT'S ALLOWED THERE.

SO. OKAY. OKAY. LASTLY, ON YOUR LIST IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS UNDER ONE OF YOUR POLICY STATEMENTS, REGIONAL FORENSIC BED FACILITIES AND THE SAN ANTONIO STATE HOSPITAL REDEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE I HAVE A MEETING THIS WEEK WITH REPRESENTATIVE LUJAN.

YOU REMEMBER HE WAS AT YOUR LEGISLATIVE BRIEFING.

SO I AM MEETING HE IS ALSO ON APPROPRIATIONS, SO I'M HOPING HE WILL HELP.

THE STATE. BECAUSE REMEMBER, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING IS WE ARE LOBBYING ON BEHALF OF

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HHS BECAUSE STATE AGENCIES AREN'T ABLE TO LOBBY ON THEIR BEHALF ON THEIR OWN.

WE ARE LOBBYING ON BEHALF OF HHS, ASKING THE STATE TO PUT FUNDING INTO THE STATE HOSPITAL FACILITY TO REFURBISH THOSE PLAZA BUILDINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED DURING THE THE REUSE STUDY.

SO I HAVE A MEETING ON THURSDAY WITH REPRESENTATIVE LUJAN TO ASK HIM TO HELP WITH THAT ITEM, SINCE HE'S ON APPROPRIATIONS. AND I ALSO DISCUSSED IT YESTERDAY WITH REPRESENTATIVE GERVIN-HAWKINS OFFICE, WHO IS ALSO ON APPROPRIATIONS. SO WE ARE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

OUR, OUR DELEGATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY PROACTIVE IN ASSISTING US WITH THESE TYPE OF ENDEAVORS, SO I HAVE FAITH THAT THEY WILL HELP THE STATE.

SEE THAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE PUT TO THE STATE HOSPITAL.

SO THAT THAT IS. THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL. YOU GET YOU GET THE WEEKLY EMAIL THAT'S GOT THE BIG LISTING.

OF BILLS. THESE ARE THE ONES I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION TODAY.

IF BY CHANCE IN. THAT MASTER LIST THAT YOU GET WEEKLY.

IF THERE ARE. IF YOU DON'T SEE A BILL OF INTEREST.

THERE PLEASE LET ME KNOW. SHOOT ME A TEXT, CALL WHATEVER AND I'LL LOOK INTO THE LOOK INTO IT AND ADD IT.

OR THERE MIGHT BE A REASON WHY IT'S NOT IN THE LIST FOR WHATEVER REASON.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTION COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ YES.

JUST REAL QUICK, MELISSA, ON THE APPROPRIATORS, HAVE THEY ALREADY BEEN KIND OF SUBDIVIDED INTO THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE ALREADY MEETING? SO DO WE KNOW IS EITHER REPRESENTATIVE LUJAN OR GERVIN-HAWKINS ON THE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S ARTICLE. YEAH THE THE ONE THAT HHC GOES THROUGH.

YEAH. NO SIR THEY ARE NOT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT.

WELL IT'S STILL HELPFUL TO HAVE THEM THERE. YES.

I JUST REMEMBER WHEN THEY KIND OF BROKE YOU UP INTO THE SUBCOMMITTEES.

USUALLY THE CHAIR OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE KIND OF GIVES EACH OF THE MEMBERS A LITTLE BIT OF A, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT A $60 MILLION ASK, BUT I MEAN, A YEAH, SOME ASK.

SO ANYWAY, KEEP US POSTED ON THOSE MEETINGS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING WITH THE BILLS THAT ARE YOU'RE WAITING FOR DRAFTS FROM LEDGE COUNCIL.

YES, SIR. AND I KNOW YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.

IT'S NOT YOUR FIRST RODEO, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SKELETON OF A DRAFT JUST TO FILE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S TWO, TWO WEEKS OR SO BEFORE THE FILING DEADLINE, AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS DO MARCH. MARCH 14TH. YES.

SUBSTITUTES AFTER THE FACT. MY MY PRACTICE HAS BEEN IS GENERALLY BY THE TIME I PRESENT IT TO SOMEONE TO ASK THEM TO EVEN GET A DRAFT.

I'VE DRAFTED THE BILL IN IN THE SAME MANNER AS WHAT LEDGE COUNSEL DOES.

SO YES, I APPRECIATE THAT GUIDANCE AND I TRY TO LIKE IT JUST MAKES THE WAY MY MIND WORKS.

IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR ME. BUT YES. YEAH, I KNOW IT LEAVES A LOT OF A LOT OF MEAT OFF THE BONE, BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE IT THERE TO FILE IT. AND THEN YOU CAN DO A COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE LATER ON.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK FORWARD TO I KNOW WE WORK CLOSELY ON URBAN URBAN COUNTY'S STUFF TOGETHER.

SO WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK ON THIS. WE WE MEET NIGHTLY EVERY EVERY DAY WHEN WE FINISH AT THE CAPITOL, WE GATHER AT THE QC BUILDING AND GO THROUGH WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE AT AT THE MOMENT.

WE'RE CURRENTLY JUST REALLY GOING THROUGH REVIEWING BILLS ALTOGETHER TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THOSE BAD ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT HELPS TO GET EXTRA SET OF EYES. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

MELISSA, TWO THINGS I WANTED TO TO COVER HERE.

THE FIRST SENATE BILL NINE. SENATOR HUFFMAN, REGARDING THE THE BAIL BOND REFORM.

THIS CAME UP IN OUR CONVERSATION. I THINK IT WAS AROUND WITH WITH THAT GROUP, BUT AND MAYBE DOCTOR GREENFIELD. IS SHE STILL HERE? OKAY, WELL, WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACTS WILL BE IN TERMS OF POPULATION AT THE JAIL BASED ON THIS.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DATE OF IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE WHEN IT PASSES? NO, I DON'T. OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT I WOULD ASSUME WITH THIS ONE IT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE IS AN IMMEDIATE UPON IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

MEANING AS SOON AS THE GOVERNOR SIGNS IT, IT WOULD BE IF IT PASSES TWO THIRDS OF BOTH OF THE BODIES.

SO SINCE IT'S A PRIORITY BILL, MY ASSUMPTION IS IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE RATHER QUICK.

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YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT STAFF DOES A 3060 DAY TYPE INITIAL STUDY, JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS COMING THROUGH THE INTAKE PROCESS THAT FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY AND WHAT THEIR CURRENT DISPOSITION IS TODAY VERSUS IN THE FUTURE STATE WHERE THEY ARE UNABLE TO BE RELEASED ON BOND.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE ADDING ANOTHER 20 INMATES INTO THE JAIL ON A WEEKLY BASIS, A MONTHLY BASIS? I HAVE NO IDEA. BUT AGAIN, FOR FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS PROBLEM AND HOW IT'S ALREADY IMPACTING OUR OVERCROWDED JAIL.

WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO.

AND I'M NOT I'M NOT DISAGREEING IN ANY WAY WITH THE THE LEGISLATION.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT EVERY PIECE OF THIS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THIS IS NECESSARY FOR OUR STATE.

HOWEVER WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND OUR IMPACT HERE LOCALLY AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT.

RIGHT? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE AND THAT WE'RE WE'RE KEEPING PEOPLE WHO ARE A THREAT TO OUR COMMUNITIES OFF THE STREETS.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE AND PLAN FOR THOSE INCARCERATED BEDS AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND I WOULD ASK MAYBE GET WITH DOCTOR GREENFIELD, I WILL AND ASK HER ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN I WANTED TO ALSO TOUCH ON THE REGIONAL FORENSIC BED FACILITIES.

SASH. SO TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW TIMES WHEN IT THE STUDY CAME UP.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A LOCAL CONTROL PIECE OF THIS THAT WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR, OR WE CAN RALLY BEHIND WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S JUST A CONSTRUCTION.

CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR FOR THE STATE HERE, WHICH IS GREAT.

MAYBE WE GET SOME JOBS AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME MINOR BENEFIT ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.

BUT TO SEE REAL VALUE FOR BEXAR COUNTY, WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOME LOCAL CONTROL.

AND I THINK BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION LAST WEEK WITH US, THEY'RE A WILLING PARTNER TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO DIG DEEPER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE TO THE STATE AND ASK FOR THAT.

I'LL ALSO MENTION TO MY COLLEAGUES. I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE LUBBOCK COUNTY JUDGE AND, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD THAT THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING INNOVATIVE IN THIS SPACE WHEN IT COMES TO LOCAL CONTROL.

IT'S KIND OF A PILOT PROGRAM OUT THERE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING REALLY EASY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT GOING FORWARD.

I KNOW THE TRAVIS COUNTY JUDGE IS TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR, SO I HOPE THIS COURT WILL WILL PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THIS AND COME BACK TOGETHER, TALK WITH US, TRY TO ALIGN AROUND AN AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDES SOME LOCAL CONTROL AND OWNERSHIP OF THOSE BEDS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY FILL THOSE BEDS.

WE CAN PULL THOSE INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THE JAIL AND PUT THEM IN FORENSIC BEDS AND OR, YOU KNOW, CIVIL BEDS OVER THERE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ASSIGN PEOPLE TO AND CONTROL.

BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A STATE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT HAPPENS TO BE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

SO THAT'S MY TAKE. OKAY. I IF I COULD, COMMISSIONER.

ADD TO THAT, I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE WITH WITH THIS ITEM BECAUSE APPROPRIATIONS IS ALREADY MEETING.

SO WE'RE BEHIND THE GUN ALREADY. AND IT'S NOT IN THE BASE BUDGET, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING TO BE ADDED LATE IN THE PROCESS.

WHAT I THINK ALSO, AND BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION, OUR MEETING WE HAD LAST WEEK WITH YOURSELF AND US.

I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT. I KEEP HEARING AND WE SPOKE ABOUT IT LAST WEEK.

I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE REFER TO BEDS IN THE COMMUNITY.

LAUREL RIDGE, WHOMEVER ALL THESE PRIVATE ENTITIES ARE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY VACANT BEDS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE STAFFED THAT MAYBE WE COULD CONTRACT FOR AND GET SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS OUT OF OUR JAIL MAY BE A LITTLE.

IT WOULD COST LESS THAN HAVING DEPUTIES HAVING TO DO OVERTIME TO TO MANAGE THESE INDIVIDUALS.

I'M NOT IN I'M NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THAT.

BUT I KEEP I JUST KEEP HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ALL THESE FACILITIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE FORENSIC, I DON'T KNOW.

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BUT THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S MY THE ISSUE, MELISSA, IS THE SECURITY LEVEL.

YEAH. NO, I MEAN I THINK IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF THE LAY OF THE LAND AND WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY UNTAPPED RESOURCES. BUT TO DAVID'S POINT, RIGHT, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FORENSIC BEDS, THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE PROBLEMATIC AND DIFFICULT. YES.

YEAH. LISTEN, I SHARE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT TIME RUNNING OUT, BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THIS FOR MONTHS NOW.

AND I THINK ULTIMATELY WE EITHER HAVE TO ALIGN QUICKLY AROUND WHAT THAT PLAN IS AND AND PUT IT FORWARD AT THE STATE OR YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I TOTALLY AGREE.

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU MELISSA. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 100.

[100. Presentation, discussion and appropriate action on the following Texas Veteran Commission-Funds for Veteran Assistance Grants]

PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING TEXAS VETERAN COMMISSION FUNDS FOR VETERAN ASSISTANCE GRANTS A GRANTS UPDATE ON THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PEER SUPPORT PROGRAMS. B APPROVAL TO ACCEPT AN ADDITIONAL AWARD OF 125,000 FOR THE HELP TO VETS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE GRANT, INCREASINGLY INCREASING THE TOTAL AWARD TO APPROXIMATELY 425,100 TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RENT, MORTGAGE, UTILITY, TRANSPORTATION AND FOOD ASSISTANCE.

MR. KEITH WILSON, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AS THEY BRING THE SLIDES UP.

I DID WANT TO ALSO WELCOME GREGORY TO THE TEAM.

HE DIDN'T MENTION THIS, BUT HE'S ALSO AN ARMY VETERAN, SO EXCITED TO SEE THAT HE HAS CONTINUED TO CHOOSE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AS A MEMBER OF THE BEXAR COUNTY TEAM. AS MENTIONED, I'M GOING TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE GRANT PROGRAM.

AS YOU ALL REMEMBER, LAST JULY, WE WERE AWARDED AND YOU ALL APPROVED THE ACCEPTANCE OF TWO GRANTS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.

ONE WAS A $300,000 GRANT FOR PEER SUPPORT. THE OTHER WAS A $300,000 GRANT FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAMS. AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'LL BE ASKING SPECIFICALLY TO ACCEPT SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE, AND I'LL GO INTO SOME DETAILS ABOUT THAT. AND THEN WE'RE ADDING A CATEGORY FOOD ASSISTANCE.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE PURCHASING OFFICE AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL IN WORKING WITH US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXPEDITE FUNDING, TO PROVIDE FOOD ASSISTANCE BY ALLOWING US TO UTILIZE THE PURCHASE CARD, SO WE APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT ON THAT.

BEFORE I GET INTO THE GRANTS, I DID WANT TO HIT REAL QUICKLY OUR CLAIMS. THIS IS OUR STATUTORY REQUIREMENT. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND.

I DO HAVE SOME UPDATED NUMBERS ON HERE. WE'VE HAD OVER 1600 CUSTOMERS TO DATE, AND WE HAVE FILED OVER 1500 CLAIMS. AND SO FAR, THE MONETARY THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IN SPECIFIC TO VA DISABILITY CLAIMS IS OVER $13 MILLION.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE THE PROGRESS FROM LAST YEAR.

SO ALREADY GREAT SUCCESS. AND THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE EXPERIENCE THAT OUR MILITARY SERVICE OFFICERS BRING TO THE TABLE IN THE EFFICIENCIES OF OUR ABILITY TO PROCESS CLAIMS. SO I WILL SWITCH OVER TO THE GRANTS.

THESE ARE THE TWO GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVED, AS I MENTIONED, $300,000 EACH.

IT ALLOWED US TO HIRE TWO STAFF MEMBERS PER PROGRAM FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

WE HAVE A CASE MANAGER AND AN INTAKE SPECIALIST.

AND FOR OUR PEER SUPPORT PROGRAM, WE HAVE ONE LICENSED SOCIAL WORKER AND AN INTAKE SPECIALIST.

YOU DO SEE AT THE BOTTOM THE CATEGORY WE'RE ADDING THE FOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS REALLY MORE OF AN INTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS WITHIN THE GRANT.

THEY'VE ALLOWED A FEW EXCEPTIONS, BUT WE WANTED TO FORMALIZE THAT TO ALLOW BETTER SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF BEXAR COUNTY.

SO WE'LL GO INTO THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE STATS VERY BRIEFLY.

AND AGAIN, WE SUBMITTED THESE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, THESE SLIDES.

SO I WILL GIVE YOU ON SOME OF THEM SOME UPDATED NUMBERS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE SUCCESS.

SO AS OF LAST FRIDAY, OF THE $167,000 WE HAD TO PROVIDE AND DIRECT ASSISTANCE, WE HAD HIT OVER $166,000. THIS MORNING. I WAS TOLD THAT WE HAD HIT OUR OUR CAP FOR ALLOCATED FUNDS AND DIRECT ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE BRINGING FORTH THE ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE.

NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE PERCENTAGE OF ALLOCATIONS OF THOSE FUNDS.

YOU'LL SEE THE PREPONDERANCE, ABOUT 70% ARE TOWARDS DIRECT HOUSING, THE BULK OF THAT TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND THEN TO MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, ANOTHER 22% OR SO TO UTILITY ASSISTANCE. SO ALL OF THOSE TO KEEP FOLKS IN HOMES, TO HELP FOLKS GET INTO HOMES OR TO.

KEEP POWER ON. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SUCCESSES BRIEFLY AT THE END.

BUT WE HAVE TRULY IMPACTED LIVES WITH THIS PROGRAM.

THIS SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE'VE SERVED.

TO DATE. WE'VE SERVED 171 CLIENTS. THE RED BAR, THE TVC PERFORMANCE BENCHMARK IS A BENCHMARK THAT THE STATE ESTABLISHES FOR US TO HIT AT ABOUT THE MIDWAY POINT, WHICH IS 60% OF THE GOAL OF CLIENT SERVED.

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SO WE HAVE ALREADY EXCEEDED THAT. AND I'LL TALK BRIEFLY AT THE END, BUT WE ANTICIPATE AN OFFER TO RENEW THE GRANT COME MAY, AND WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION.

WE HAVE SINCE HAD 96 UNIQUE, WHAT I CALL HOME UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN ASSISTED, THAT CONSISTS OF EITHER AN INDIVIDUAL THAT RECEIVED ASSISTANCE OR SOME FAMILY UNIT OF TWO OR MORE. WE HAD 37 FAMILIES AND 59 INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE IMPACTED BY OUR ASSISTANCE.

THIS IS A QUICK BREAKDOWN BY PRECINCT. NO REAL SIGNIFICANT ANOMALIES, IF YOU WILL, BASED ON THE THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN BY PRECINCTS, KIND OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE. THIS IS ONE SLIDE I DO WANT TO HIT KIND OF BRIEFLY.

ON THE LEFT. AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE I APOLOGIZE. WE'LL FIX THIS FOR OUR NEXT PRESENTATION.

SO IT'S MORE READABLE. ON THE RIGHT THE ERA SERVED.

SO TO DATE THE PREPONDERANCE HAVE BEEN TO OUR OEF AND OIF VETERANS.

THAT'S ABOUT 38 INDIVIDUALS ASSISTED FOLLOWED BY DESERT SHIELD, DESERT STORM AND THEN PEACETIME.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MISSING OUR VIETNAM VETERAN ERA IN SURVIVING SPOUSES.

AND I THINK, FRANKLY, THAT IS AN OUTREACH ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS.

WE NEED TO GET BETTER ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITIES, GO INTO SOME OF THE COMMUNITY CENTERS, SOME OF THE VFW, ETC., BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MORE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS ASSISTANCE.

SO WE'LL MAKE SOME CORRECTIONS ON THAT TO ENSURE WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT ENGAGING OUR OUR VIETNAM ERA VETERANS.

AS I TRANSITION BRIEFLY TO THE PEER SUPPORT, I DID MENTION WE HAVE ONE LICENSED SOCIAL WORKER AND ONE INTAKE SPECIALIST.

THESE ARE A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OR A FEW PHOTOS OF SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES WE'VE DONE TO DATE TO INCLUDE THE BOTTOM RIGHT, WHICH IS A FEMALE VETERAN DOE HUNT THAT WAS WELL RECEIVED.

THIS TALKS A LITTLE BIT. WE PUT SOME EMPHASIS ON OUR JUSTICE INVOLVED AND HOMELESS AND AT RISK VETERANS.

AND IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU TO ASK FOR FOR SOME REALLOCATION OF EXISTING FUNDS TO ADD A SOCIAL WORKER.

WE HAVE MET WITH THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURTS.

OUR SOCIAL WORKER RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO THE JAIL EVERY FRIDAY, MEETING WITH INCARCERATED VETERANS TO INCLUDE INDIVIDUAL SESSIONS, GROUP SESSIONS, AS WELL AS ACTIVITIES. RECENTLY, THEY DID AN ART THERAPY WITH VETERANS IN THE JAIL.

THERE IS ENOUGH DEMAND ON OUR JUSTICE INVOLVED TO WARRANT AN ADDITIONAL SOCIAL WORKER, AND I OWE YOU ALL THE DATA TO SUPPORT THAT.

IN FUTURE COMMISSIONERS COURT, SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES ON THE BOTTOM YOU CAN SEE THAT RANGE FROM HUNT, EQUINE THERAPY, PAINTING, BOWLING, HORSE THERAPY.

WE HAVE SOME UPCOMING EVENTS THAT INCLUDE A MALE AND FEMALE WELLNESS DAY FOR OUR FELONY VETERANS TREATMENT COURT PARTICIPANTS, AS WELL AS THE VIETNAM VETERAN FOCUSED EVENT.

SOME OF THE BRIEF DATA POINTS AND JUST SOME QUICK UPDATES.

AS OF FRIDAY, WE HAD 64 PARTICIPANTS IN OUR ACTIVITIES.

MANY OF THOSE PARTICIPANTS PARTICIPATE IN MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES OVER THE COURSE OF THEIR TIME WITH THE PROGRAM, AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THOSE THAT CONTINUE TO TO RETURN.

AND THEN ERA SERVED GENERALLY WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT, PREDOMINANTLY OEF AND OIF, FOLLOWED BY DESERT SHIELD, DESERT STORM. I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FEMALE TO MALE RATIO.

TO DATE, 33% OF OUR PARTICIPANTS HAVE BEEN FEMALE VETERANS.

THIS. THIS IS A UNIQUE ANOMALY WHICH I'M PROUD OF.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VETERAN OR THE FEMALE VETERAN POPULATION IN THE COUNTRY, IT'S ABOUT 10% OF OUR VETERAN POPULATION, AND THEY ARE OFTEN RECOGNIZED AS BEING UNDERSERVED WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SERVICES.

AND SO TO SEE THAT THEY'RE COMING TO PARTICIPATE IS A TESTAMENT TO THE WORK THAT OUR TEAM HAS PUT INTO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CONDUCTING THE RIGHT OUTREACH AND PROVIDING THE APPROPRIATE SERVICES. SO THAT'S JUST IT IN A QUICK NUTSHELL.

AS MENTIONED TODAY, TODAY, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, THE STATE A FEW WEEKS AGO OFFERED TO AWARD US AN ADDITIONAL $125,000, WHICH WOULD BE DIRECT ASSISTANCE TO OUR CLIENTS.

AS I MENTIONED IN THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT, I ANTICIPATE COMING TO ASK TO REPURPOSE SOME FUNDS FOR AN ADDITIONAL SOCIAL WORKER WITH NO EXTRA COST THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO FOCUS ON OUR JUSTICE INVOLVED, BUT ALSO MAINTAIN INTERACTIONS WITH OUR KIND OF WRIT LARGE CLIENTELE AND TRANSITIONING MILITARY. AND THEN WE ANTICIPATE IN MAY, TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION, BASED ON OUR BENCHMARKS, OFFERING US A RENEWAL OF BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS. THE MEETING LAST MONTH AT AUSTIN WITH THE TVC WAS EXCEPTIONALLY SUCCESSFUL, AND SO WE SEE NO ISSUES THAT WILL PREVENT US FROM RECEIVING THAT OFFER AND THEN BRINGING THAT TO YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.

SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME, JUDGE. THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM.

I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A HIT DATA BRIEFLY.

INDIVIDUALS. WE HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL FROM PRECINCT FOUR, MISS HAYES.

SHE WAS FACING EVICTION, HAD BEEN SERVED A NOTICE TO APPEAR BEFORE THE JUDGE.

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OUR TEAM ACTUALLY WENT TO THE TO THE COURT, MET WITH THE THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, THE LANDLORD AND WORKED AN AGREEMENT NEGOTIATED TO ALLOW HER TO STAY IN HER HOME AND CATCH HER UP IN PAYMENTS AND WORK OUT A PLAN.

WHAT I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS A LONG A SHORT TERM BRIDGE TO A LONG TERM SOLUTION.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO WORK TO KEEP HER IN HOME. AND THEN WE HAD ONE OF OUR PEER SUPPORT PARTICIPANTS.

COMMISSIONER, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING SOME TIME TO STEP OUT. HE HAD TO LEAVE. HIS FAMILY FLEW IN LAST NIGHT FROM A TRIP JUST TO BE HERE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS THAT THEY'VE SEEN WITH THIS PROGRAM AND AGAIN, DIDN'T GET TO STAY THROUGHOUT, BUT APPRECIATE GETTING TO MEET WITH COMMISSIONER MOODY. MR. VEGA IS A VIETNAM VETERAN WHO SUFFERS FROM THE CHALLENGES OF DEMENTIA, AND HIS DAUGHTER MONICA MENTIONED THAT SHE HAS SEEN A SIGNIFICANT PHYSICAL CHANGE IN HER FATHER BECAUSE OF THE EVENTS THAT HE HAS PARTICIPATED IN IN THE PAST.

HE WAS VERY ISOLATED AND KEPT TO HIMSELF AND GETTING OUT TO THESE ACTIVITIES WHERE HE'S INTERACTING WITH VETERANS.

THEY SIT AT THE BOWLING EVENT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS.

HE WAS ABLE TO GO UP TO THE LINE AND SERVE HIMSELF FOOD AND INTERACT WITH THE OTHER VETERANS.

SHE MADE A COMMENT TO THE POINT OF, I FINALLY HAVE MY FATHER BACK, AND HER KIDS ARE NOW EXCITED TO PARTICIPATE IN FUTURE EVENTS WITH THEIR GRANDFATHER BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT CHANGE. SO WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE SHOWN AND ALLOWING US TO EXECUTE THIS GRANT PROGRAM.

AND SO AGAIN I KNOW THIS $125,000 WILL GO TO IMPACTING LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU. JUDGE PENDING ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, THAT'S ALL I.

JUDGE I MOVE APPROVAL TO ACCEPT AN ADDITIONAL AWARD UP TO 125,000 FOR THE HELP TO VETS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE GRANT, INCREASING THE TOTAL AWARD TO APPROXIMATELY $425,000 TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL RENT, MORTGAGE, UTILITY, TRANSPORTATION, AND FOOD ASSISTANCE. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, JUST REAL QUICK, KEITH. LET ME JUST THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM. I KNOW WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY ON A LOT OF ISSUES.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE THE LACK OF THE VIETNAM VETERAN PARTICIPATION.

AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, OUR FRIENDS THERE AT EDGEWOOD VETERANS YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO, TO, TO CULTIVATE THAT.

I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF FOLKS THERE WHO ARE, I THINK, FIT THAT CATEGORY, BUT ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, FOR CULTURAL REASONS, ARE VERY PROUD AND I THINK MAYBE DON'T WANT TO ASK FOR HELP.

SO I THINK I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU TO CONTINUE.

I KNOW PRECINCT TWO HAS A LOT OF VIETNAM VETERAN FOLKS, PARTICULARLY IN THE WEST SIDE, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO PARTNER AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER. I KNOW THE THE OCCUPATION AT THE WEST SIDE EDUCATION TRAINING CENTER OF STAFF MEMBERS.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL CLAIMS REPRESENTATIVE.

AND WITH AN ADDITION, WE HAVE AN MSO COMING BACK FROM ACTIVE DUTY WHO'S ALREADY ACCREDITED AS A VSO.

AND SO HE WILL BE MOVING INTO THE WET C IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

HE ARRIVES BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT ON THE 10TH. HE'LL GET SOME REFRESHER TRAINING, AND WE'LL HAVE HIM AS A DEDICATED CLAIMS OFFICER OVER ON THE WEST SIDE TO SUPPORT BOTH PRECINCT TWO, PRECINCT ONE AND OTHERS THAT MAY COME THERE.

SO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, SIR. ANYTHING ELSE? CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY EXTENSION? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU KEITH. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, ONE ON ONE DISCUSSION, APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING AUTHORIZING STAFF TO IDENTIFY FUNDING

[101. (Court) Discussion and appropriate action regarding authorizing staff to identify funding regarding a request from the Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) All-Stars Foundation for a $125,000 sponsorship from Bexar County for the HBCU All-Star Game taking place at the Freeman Coliseum on April 6, 2025., in order to promote or advertise Bexar County and its vicinity to attract conventions, visitors and business.]

REGARDING THE REQUEST FROM THE HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES HBCUS ALL STARS FOUNDATION FOR $125,000.

SPONSORSHIP FROM BURKE COUNTY FOR THE HBCU ALL STAR GAME TAKING PLACE AT THE FREEMAN COLISEUM ON APRIL 6TH, 2025. IN ORDER TO PROMOTE OR ADVERTISE BEXAR COUNTY AND ITS VICINITY TO ATTRACT CONVENTIONS, VISITORS AND BUSINESSES. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS COURT.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE HBCU ALL STARS TO SPEAK TODAY.

SO ON APRIL THE 6TH OF 2025, SAN ANTONIO WILL BE THE HOST CITY OF THE 2025 HBCU ALL STAR GAME.

THIS IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT FREEMAN COLISEUM IN SAN ANTONIO.

THIS IS DURING THE FINAL FOUR WEEKEND. THIS HISTORIC EVENT WILL FEATURE NOT ONLY THE FOURTH ANNUAL HBCU ALL-STAR GAME, BUT THE FIRST EVER WOMEN'S HBCU ALL STAR GAME, AND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE IN COLLEGE HISTORY.

SO WHAT MAKES THIS EVENT SUCCESSFUL? NOT ONLY IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BROADCAST ON NATIONAL TELEVISION FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, CBS AND IT WILL BE BROADCAST ON NATIONAL TELEVISION THIS YEAR.

WHAT MAKES IT SUCCESSFUL IS EVEN THOUGH THEY CHOOSE A DIFFERENT HOST CITY EVERY YEAR, THEY ROOT THEMSELVES IN THE COMMUNITY EVERYWHERE THEY GO.

THEY LEAVE BEHIND A LEGACY OF VOLUNTEERISM. THEY LEAVE BEHIND A LEGACY OF FUNDRAISING.

THIS YEAR, THEY'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH SAINT PHILIPS, WHICH IS AN HBCU, THE CITY'S ONLY HBCU.

AND HIS, EXCUSE ME, A HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTION AS WELL.

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THEY'RE PARTNERING WITH THE YMCA FOR A FUNDRAISER.

THEY'LL HAVE A THREE ON ONE COMBINE FOR THE STUDENTS.

THEY'VE SET ASIDE 1000 FREE TICKETS FOR THE CHILDREN OF SAN ANTONIO TO ATTEND THIS EVENT.

HOW THIS IMPACTS US LOCALLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW.

THIS EVENT IS A NATIONAL EVENT. IT WILL BRING IN TOURISM DOLLARS IN THE FORM OF HOTELS, PARKING, CAR RENTAL, FOOD RESTAURANTS. IT WILL ALSO, BECAUSE IT'S TELEVISED, BRING A POSITIVE VIEW OF SAN ANTONIO, WHICH WE ALL LOVE. WE CONSIDER THIS A VERY DIVERSE, HARD WORKING, FAMILY ORIENTED CITY, AND THIS GAME EMBODIES THAT.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS LISA JACKSON, AND I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO MR. TRAVIS WILLIAMS, WHO IS THE CEO OF THE HBCU ALL STAR GAME.

AND HE'S TRAVELED HERE FROM ATLANTA TO ADDRESS THE COURT TODAY.

THANK YOU EVERYONE. AS LISA MENTIONED, MY NAME IS TRAVIS WILLIAMS. I'M THE CEO AND FOUNDER OF HBCU ALL STARS. WE'RE BLACK OWNED SPORTS MARKETING EVENTS AND MEDIA COMPANY LOCATED IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA. WE BELIEVE IN EAR AND OR EXPOSURE, ACCESS, RECOGNITION, OPPORTUNITY, RESOURCE AND RESULTS FOR OUR PROUD AND PRESTIGIOUS TRADITION RICH HBCUS. HARD WORKING, TALENTED, AMBITIOUS AND VERY DESERVING STUDENTS AND STUDENT ATHLETES, AND SOME OF OUR MOST BRILLIANT COACHES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT DON'T GET THE NOTORIETY.

THEY DON'T GET THE SHINE. OUR HBCUS WERE FOUNDED WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLACES TO GO.

SO WE'VE BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED, UNDER-RESOURCED AND UNDERFUNDED.

BUT IN 40 DAYS AND 40 DAYS, WE'RE GETTING READY TO HOST THE MOST HISTORIC AND EPIC EVENT THAT'S EVER BEEN HERE, THAT'S REPRESENTING OUR HBCUS DURING FINAL FOUR WEEKEND.

YOU HAVE THE FINAL FOUR GAMES ON SATURDAY. YOU HAVE OUR HBCU ALL STAR GAME ON SUNDAY, APRIL THE 6TH AT FREEMAN COLISEUM IN AN EPIC DOUBLEHEADER, THE FOURTH ANNUAL MAN AND FIRST EVER WOMEN. THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED DURING THE 40 YEAR HISTORY OF THE NCAA MARCH MADNESS TOURNAMENT.

AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, AS LISA MENTIONED, TO PUT THE GREAT CITY OF SAN ANTONIO NOT ONLY ON A NATIONAL PLATFORM, BUT A GLOBAL PLATFORM WITH OUR BROADCAST PARTNERS.

FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE HOSTED A GAME ON CBS.

WE'VE HAD OVER 1.6 MILLION VIEWERSHIP, AND THAT WAS BASED, AS YOU CAN SEE, GOING AGAINST CAITLIN CLARK AND AJA REESE GOING AGAINST CAITLIN CLARK AND SOUTH CAROLINA DAWN STALEY DURING THAT SAME TIME SLOT.

BUT WITH OUR NEW BROADCAST PARTNER, WE WON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE ANYMORE.

PRIME TIME SUNDAY, ALL EYES WILL BE ON FREEMAN COLISEUM PRIMETIME.

AND SO LET ME PAINT THE PICTURE FOR YOU. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE 100 OF THE NATION'S TOP MEN AND WOMEN ON OUR HBCU ALL STARS WATCH LIST.

HBCU REPRESENTS ALL 100 PLUS HBCUS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

NOT ONLY WE REPRESENT THEM ON THE PLAYING FIELD, WE REPRESENT THEM OFF.

AS WE MENTIONED, WE HOST A COLLEGE ADMISSIONS FAIR WHERE WE INVITE ALL 100 PLUS OF OUR HBCUS TO PARTICIPATE.

WE'VE AVERAGED 40 TO 50 HBCUS THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF OUR EVENT.

WE'VE TOUCHED OVER 8000 LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN NEW ORLEANS IN APRIL 2022, HOUSTON IN APRIL 2023, AND APRIL 24TH. IN PHOENIX, WHERE THERE ARE NO HBCUS IN THAT PART OF THE REGION.

AND HERE IN THE GREAT CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE WILL TOUCH OVER 10,000 PLUS STUDENTS AND EXPOSE THEM TO OUR HBCUS.

NOT ONLY THAT, WE PARTNER WITH OUR LOCAL YMCA HERE, DAVID SCOTT YMCA, WHERE WE'RE CREATING A FRIDAY FUN DAY.

WE WANT TO LET OUR YOUNG FOLKS KNOW THAT THEY MATTER WHEN THE KIDS GET OUT OF SCHOOL ON THAT FRIDAY, APRIL 4TH, COME TO COME TO DAVID SCOTT YMCA, FREE FOOD, BOUNCE HOUSES, GAMES.

WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER AND DO A LEGACY COURT DEDICATION.

EDUCATION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR HBCU ALL STARS POUR INTO OUR YOUNG FOLKS AND EXPOSE THEM VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE ONE OF THE TOP INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WE HAVE STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY COME BE A PART OF OUR EVENTS, AND WE WANT TO SHOW THEM THE REAL WORLD, BEHIND THE SCENES ACTION THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US.

AS YOU MENTIONED, SAINT PHILIP'S COLLEGE HOSTING OUR POTENTIAL COLLEGE ADMISSIONS FAIR, AS WELL AS FREEMAN COLISEUM ON GAME DAY FOR THE STUDENTS THAT MISS IT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ON GAME DAY. THEY CAN COME TO FREEMAN COLISEUM AND BE A PART AND WATCH OUR HBCU.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY AWARDS WHERE WE RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR MOST ESTEEMED COMMUNITY LEADERS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

AND THEN ON SATURDAY, ONE DAY BEFORE THE MEN'S BEFORE OUR GAME, WE CALL IT A PASTOR'S PRAYER CIRCLE, WHERE WE INVITE SOME OF OUR MOST ESTEEMED PASTORS IN HERE BECAUSE THIS IS TRULY A GOD DRIVEN VISION THAT WAS PLACED IN MY SPIRIT AFTER 17 SUCCESSFUL YEARS OF COACHING.

I'M THE FORMER HEAD MEN'S BASKETBALL COACH AT TENNESSEE STATE UNIVERSITY, FORT VALLEY STATE UNIVERSITY.

I'VE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. I'VE SEEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HAVES AND THE HAVE NOTS, AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BRING OUR PASTORS HERE AND COVER US IN PRAYER

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BEFORE ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT AND HISTORIC EVENTS HERE IN SAINT PHILIP'S.

SO WE'RE PARTNERING WITH SOME OF OUR PASTOR COVERS AND PRAYER THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL.

SO ON THAT SUNDAY, LET ME PAINT THIS PICTURE.

WE INVITED A LOT OF OUR BUSINESS VENDORS. WE CALL IT THE BUSINESS EXPO.

HERE WE CREATE THE BIG TIME GAME DAY EXPERIENCE, A PART OF OUR FAN FEST.

IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. AS YOU CAN SEE, 1.6 MILLION VIEWERS.

OUR FAN FEST GAME DAY ACTION. WE HAVE OUR FAN FEST.

WE HAVE OUR BUSINESS VENDORS, WE HAVE OUR COLLEGE ADMISSIONS FAIR, AND WE HAVE SEATING CAPACITY AT 8200 AT FREEMAN COLISEUM.

WE INVITE OUR GRAMBLING STATE UNIVERSITY HBCU BAND, CHEERLEADERS, AND DANCE TEAM, THE ENTIRE HBCU EXPERIENCE.

THEY WOULD NOT BE AN EMPTY SEAT AT FREEMAN COLISEUM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE GREAT CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WOULD NOT DISAPPOINT US FOR HAVING THREE CONSECUTIVE SOLD OUT ARENAS BROADCASTING NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY AROUND THE WORLD.

AND SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS GREAT PARTNERSHIP WHERE EVERYBODY WINS IN THIS.

EVERYBODY WINS IN THIS. AND SO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING US THIS PLATFORM.

WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT. COMMISSIONER COWART THANK YOU JUDGE.

AND THANK YOU, TRAVIS. AND THANK YOU, LISA, FOR INTRODUCING THIS INCREDIBLE SHOWCASE FOR FREEMEN IN OUR 75TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR OF FREEMEN.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD A NATIONALLY TELEVISED EVENT FOR THE COUNTY'S INAUGURAL BUILDING THAT WE HAVE ON OUR COLISEUM FROST CENTER GROUNDS. SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THIS COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER CITY COMING, AND OUR LOCAL PEOPLE DON'T GET ANYTHING.

THERE IS A LOT. THERE IS A TON OF THINGS FOR OVER A THOUSAND STUDENTS COLLEGE ADMISSIONS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE COMMUNITY SOCIAL JUSTICE FORUMS, PASTOR FORUMS, COMMUNITY SERVICE ACTIVITIES, APPRENTICESHIPS AND INTERNSHIPS. SO MUCH LIKE THE FINAL FOUR WEEKEND, THAT HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF ACTIVITIES.

WE ARE JUST ADDING TO OUR TOURISM DOLLARS BY ALLOWING A SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT OFTEN IS OVERLOOKED AND BUT DOES HAVE DISPOSABLE INCOME THAT THEY SPEND AT ALL OF THE CITIES THAT THEY HAVE ATTENDED.

SO IT'S VERY EXCITING FOR THE COUNTY TO, IN ESSENCE, BE A HOST.

IN MANY WAYS, THE SPONSORSHIP IS A LEFT POCKET, RIGHT POCKET THING BECAUSE THE COUNTY FACILITY IS GOING TO GET NOT ONLY MUCH OF THE DOLLARS HERE, BUT IT ALSO IS GOING TO GET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MARKETING TO HIGHLIGHT THE GOODNESS OF THE PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO FOR THIS FIRST MEN AND WOMEN'S ALL STAR GAME. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO MAKE HISTORY FOR WOMEN'S PROGRESS AS WELL.

AND I WANT TO THANK THE JUDGE FOR, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THIS FORWARD WITH ME.

HE'S BEEN SUPPORTIVE AS WELL. HE KNOWS THE IMPORTANCE OF IT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT TO SEE THIS BE A SUCCESS FOR SAN ANTONIO.

WE'RE ON THE MAP ON THAT PARTICULAR WEEKEND. SO I MOVE APPROVAL MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I HAVE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. SO WELCOME TO SAN ANTONIO.

WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS COME TO BEXAR COUNTY.

I HAD HEARD ABOUT THE HBCUS COMING HERE EVEN BEFORE I SAW IT ON THE AGENDA.

BUT, COMMISSIONER CALVERT, SO YOUR NAME IS NEXT TO THIS.

DID YOU SEND INFORMATION TO MY STAFF? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY GOT ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

YES WE DID. LISA, DO YOU WANT TO JUST COMMENT ON THAT? YES. SO I DID SEND OUT THIS MORNING. MR. WOLFF, I THINK IS THAT IS THAT MISS MY CHIEF OF STAFF.

HI. FRANKIE GONZALEZ. THIS MORNING A BUDGET. I DON'T.

DID YOU NOT GET THAT? WELL SO SO YOU SAY YOU SENT IT THIS MORNING? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. HOW LONG HAVE YOU. AND YOU WORK IN WHICH OFFICE? I'M WITH MR.. CALVERT. OKAY. AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING HERE? I JUST GOT HERE. OKAY.

SO THEN YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT. PROTOCOL.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, IF YOU CAN HAVE THINGS ON THE AGENDA SENT TO OUR STAFF BEFORE IT EVEN PULSE IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR SOMETHING. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT.

LIKE I SAID, MARCUS AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HEARD IT WAS COMING.

BUT NONETHELESS, IT'D BE GOOD TO. WE NEED TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION BEFOREHAND.

GOT IT. SO YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. MURPHY. APPRECIATE IT. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET AT THE THE TOTAL BUDGET VERSUS THE THE SPONSORSHIP CONTRIBUTION FROM BEXAR

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COUNTY. I, I HAVE THIS DOCUMENT, SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO ADD THAT UP.

IT LOOKS LIKE AROUND 200. IS THAT THE TOTAL BUDGET THEN FOR THE GAMES.

WELL WELL I MEAN IT COULD IT BASED OFF WHAT I'VE SENT YOU, IF THOSE DOLLARS ARE THERE TO DO THAT THAT'S THAT'S FINE.

BUT WE WERE ASKING FOR THE 125 BASICALLY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN, AS WE MENTIONED FREEMAN COLISEUM HASN'T HOSTED AN EVENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.

SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH BUILDING OUT EVERYTHING FROM GROUND UP, FROM OUR COURT TO OUR GOALS TO THE SCOREBOARD TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE WITH TOTAL BUILD OUT BASED ON THE BUDGET, TO HAVE THE WHOLE ENTIRE PRODUCTION.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE SENT OVER. OKAY, SO THOSE LIKE THE COURT, RENTALS, GOALS, RENTALS, THAT'S ALL GOING THROUGH THE FREEMAN COLISEUM.

AND YEAH, I'M HAVING ALL THAT SHIPPED HERE. YEAH, I'M HAVING IT. I HAVE TO HAVE IT SHIPPED AND EVERYTHING HERE TO BUILD OUT, BECAUSE NORMALLY WE'VE DONE IT AT, AT UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE ALREADY KIND OF HAD A BUILT IN WITH OUR FACILITY RENTAL AND EVERYTHING THERE IS PRETTY MUCH WE'RE COMING IN AND BUILDING OUT THE WHOLE PRODUCT. SO WHAT YOU SEE ON A NATIONAL GRAND SCALE WOULD BE FROM US BUILDING FROM THE GROUND UP.

SO WE HAVE ALL THAT THAT WILL BE SET UP WEDNESDAY, APRIL THE 2ND.

BY THE TIME OUR ALL STARS ARRIVE HERE, THURSDAY, APRIL THE 3RD.

OKAY. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER. I JUST REALLY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO KIND OF SEE THE BUDGET LAY OUT AND, AND THIS KIND OF PROVIDES MAYBE A HIGH END BUDGET AND MAYBE THAT WAS ASPIRATIONAL WHEN, YOU KNOW, FIRST CAME FORWARD. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT THE MAJORITY OF THIS FUNDING IS GOING TOWARDS THE ARENA'S BOARD AND WORK WITH THE FREEMEN, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS COUNTY ASSET.

THEN YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE AND OBVIOUSLY THE TOURISM AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THAT WILL COME WITH THIS ALONG WITH THE FINAL FOUR, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AN AMAZING WEEKEND FOR SAN ANTONIO AND FOR BEXAR COUNTY AND FOR TEXAS, FOR THAT MATTER. SO NO, I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DAVID, LET ME JUST A QUESTION TO THE BUDGET.

I SUPPORT THIS AGENDA ITEM, BUT IN ORDER TO PREVENT ANY MISUNDERSTANDING AND WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WITH THIS TYPE OF AGENDA LANGUAGE WHERE WE'RE IDENTIFYING FUNDS.

SO I REALLY DON'T WANT ANY MISUNDERSTANDING. WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE A CONTRACT? IS IT GOING TO BE A REIMBURSABLE? I WANT THE HBCU ENTITY LEGAL ENTITY, WHATEVER THAT IS.

KNOWING WHAT EXPECTATIONS DO THEY NEED FROM US SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND CLARIFY THINGS? DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION, DAVE? YES, SIR.

BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS TO BE A GRANT TO BE USED FOR SCHOLARSHIPS.

DID I HAVE THAT? INCORRECT? THAT WOULD BE INCORRECT.

THIS WOULD BE FOR THE PRODUCTION. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME GIVE YOU THOMAS, IF YOU COULD. IT'S FOR THE ACTUAL NEED FOR THE COURTS, THE TV PRODUCTION, THOSE KINDS OF YEAH, THOSE KINDS OF COSTS. IN THAT CASE, THEN, YES, IT WOULD GENERALLY BE ON A REIMBURSABLE BASIS.

SO YOU WOULD SUBMIT INVOICES TO US WITH BACKGROUND AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD REIMBURSE.

BUT LET ME MAKE A SUGGESTION FOR THAT. THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT SINCE THE COLISEUM IS THE IS THE ENTITY THAT'S DEALING WITH IT, IN THE PAST, WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO, IS WORK IT TO THE COLISEUM FOR SPONSORSHIP, SO THAT THE COLISEUM CAN BE THE ONE THAT IS.

SO IT'S NOT HAVING TO BE A REIMBURSABLE. SO I THINK AGAIN, THE MOTION IS TO IDENTIFY THE WAY TO GET IT DONE BASICALLY.

AND SO I'D JUST MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF DIRECTION.

CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH DEREK IS HERE TODAY SO WE CAN.

ALL RIGHT. WE CAN. PROUD ALUMNUS OF AN HBCU MIGHT I ADD.

DEREK, DID YOU WOULD YOU WANT TO CLARIFY ANYTHING IN BEHALF OF THE COLISEUM ADVISORY BOARD IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING REQUEST? WE'RE JUST I WANT SOME MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WE ALL VOTE AND WE ALL LEAVE.

WE ARE ABLE TO INHERIT THE EXPENSES AND THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNTY FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

AND JUST SO THAT THERE'S A DIRECT CONNECT BETWEEN THE FACILITY AND ALL OF THE INCOMING ASSETS.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE COURT OR THE TV, WHETHER IT'S THE THE GAME DAY, YOU KNOW, SET UP AND ARRIVAL FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO PRODUCE THE FLOOR.

NOW, TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT THIS IS RENT TO THE COLISEUM.

BUT FOR EVENTS LIKE THIS, THERE ARE THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME INTO PLAY IN ORDER FOR IT TO HAPPEN.

AND SO WE WILL CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO TO TAKE THAT ON.

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THAT'S IF THAT I'M SORRY. THAT'S SOMETHING DEREK, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU STILL HAVE TO TAKE TO YOUR BOARD TO, TO AUTHORIZE THAT EXPENDITURE OR. OKAY. SO SO YOU COULD YOU COULD ABSORB THE COST AND THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNTY.

CORRECT. OKAY. COULD I JUST CLARIFY, MR. MOODY? SO THE THE LANGUAGE HERE OR THE PROCESS WILL BE REIMBURSABLE TO THE FREEMAN COLISEUM UP TO AN AMOUNT OF 125 K, BUT IF THE FREEMAN COLISEUM PORTION OF THAT GRANT IS LESS THAN 125 K.

THEN YOU WOULD STILL THE HBCU WOULD STILL SUBMIT THE CLAIM TO THE COUNTY FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

CORRECT. I THINK PARTIALLY, I THINK IF IT'S NOT A FREEMAN COLISEUM EXPENSE, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GET THE REIMBURSEMENT CORRECT DIRECTLY VERSUS THROUGH THE FREEMAN.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. RIGHT. SO THERE MAY BE TWO AVENUES FOR FOR PAYMENT, RIGHT UP TO THE AMOUNT THAT THE FREEMAN COLISEUM IS ORCHESTRATING. RIGHT. THEN OBVIOUSLY WE COULD WORK WITH DEREK AND THE ARENA'S BOARD, BUT FOR THAT AMOUNT BEYOND THAT, UP TO THE GRANT AMOUNT, WE WOULD STILL NEED TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THEM.

I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO SOLVE IT IS TO ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE RECOMMENDED MOTION.

ADDING THE COLISEUM. AND THAT WAY YOU'RE COVERED UNDER BOTH.

AND SO YOU'VE GOT BOTH THE FOUNDATION AND THE COLISEUM IN THE MOTION.

AND THE DETAILS OF STAFF WILL WORK THOSE THINGS THROUGH.

I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO TOTALS 125,000 OR LESS.

GOOD POINT. AND THE CONFIRMATION IS THAT 125 IS A CAP.

AND THAT'S IT. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION WOULD CALL FOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHOSE MOTION PUT. IS THAT YOURS, COMMISSIONER? I WOULD YEAH I WOULD JUST TAKE WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SAID AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND OFFER THAT THE THE MOTION IS APPROVING IT FOR THE FREEDMEN AND THE HBCU FOUNDATION.

YOU ENDORSE THAT, COMMISSIONER MOODY? YES. WHO DID THE SECOND YOU ENDORSED THAT, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? SO WE NOW HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION.

DO WE HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT THAT MOTION IS? SO JUST TO COMMENT, SO TO MY POINT, COMMISSIONER CALVERT, THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES, OR HAVE YOUR STAFF COMMUNICATE WITH THE REST OF THE STAFF SO THAT WE CAN WORK OUT THESE THINGS BEFOREHAND. BECAUSE I AT LEAST I'M ONLY SPEAKING MYSELF.

I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT NONETHELESS, WE HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTS ARE SET SO THAT THEN THEY DON'T TURN AROUND AND HAVE ISSUES AND NOT GET REIMBURSED.

NO, I APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE ACF WAS SUBMITTED WEEKS AGO IN TIME, SO IT WAS IN THE BACKGROUND. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ACF.

I'M TALKING ABOUT COLLEAGUES HAVING A RELATIONSHIP AND DISCUSSING DISCUSSING THINGS WITH EACH OTHER OR BECAUSE OF QUORUMS. HAVE YOUR STAFF REACH OUT TO THE REST OF OUR STAFF.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER. OKAY.

GREAT. COMMISSIONER. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE DID GIVE THE INFORMATION TO THE STAFFS IN ADVANCE, SO I APOLOGIZE IF IT DIDN'T GET TO THERE, BUT THAT WAS AN ORDER TO SEND IT IN.

OKAY. WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACK AND FORTH, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I CALL FOR A VOTE. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. ALL RIGHT.

FOR PURPOSES OF CONVENIENCE, I AM GOING TO CALL 102 JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF ALLOWING CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

I BELIEVE THEY HAVE PATIENTLY BEEN HERE SINCE THE MORNING, AND THAT OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL PROBABLY BE CONTINUING ON BECAUSE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, I WILL BE CALLING FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ORDER TO DISCUSS 102 AND I BELIEVE, 105 IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND THEN WE'LL COME OUT AND WE'LL TAKE UP FOR ACTION IF IF NEEDED, ON 102 AND 105. SO AT THIS TIME FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON 102.

[8. Communications from citizens who signed the register to speak. (Part 2 of 2)]

THE FIRST PERSON I WILL CALL UPON IS BETTY BOUCHER.

GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS.

I'M BETTY BOUCHER HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO.

WE SUPPORT THE MOU TO ENGAGE IN FORMAL DISCUSSIONS AND INFORMATION SHARING ON PROJECT MARVEL AND A NEW ARENA.

WE ALSO ASK THAT THE COUNTY SEEK TO PAUSE THE DEMOLITION OF THE INSTITUTE OF TEXAN CULTURES BUILDING,

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AT LEAST UNTIL VOTERS HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE POLLS ON THE ARENA PROJECT.

THE INTERIOR DEMOLITION OF ASBESTOS HAS ALREADY BEGUN.

PLEASE STOP WITH THAT FOR NOW. IF PREMATURELY DEMOLISHED AND THE VOTERS SAY NO TO AN ARENA, WILL WE GET A 13 ACRE PARKING LOT FOR THE NEXT DECADE? WHY ELIMINATE OPTIONS FOR REHABILITATION AND REUSE OF THIS HERITAGE RESOURCE THAT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS? ITC HAS THREE LEGAL DESIGNATIONS. IT IS A STATE ANTIQUITIES LANDMARK.

IT IS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AND ITS ORIGINATING LEGISLATION THAT AUTHORIZED ITS CONSTRUCTION AND FUNDED IT STIPULATED THESE WORDS. THIS WILL BE A PERMANENT BUILDING.

THE 59TH LEGISLATURE VOTED ON THAT. THESE DESIGNATIONS REQUIRED A RIGOROUS ACADEMIC PROCESS.

THIS IS NOT JUST NOSTALGIA AS WHAT IS BEING REPORTED BY ONE OF THE CANDIDATES FOR MAYOR.

THIS IS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT HERITAGE BUILDING, AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE PROCESS THAT AREN'T NORMAL. ONE IS THAT BEXAR COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION WAS NOT INVITED TO REVIEW THE DEMOLITION PERMIT.

TWO IS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS OF TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION DID NOT VOTE ON THE DEMOLITION PERMIT.

IT WAS ISSUED ENTIRELY BY STAFF. SO WHAT IF VOTERS DECIDE ON NO ARENA FUNDING? WHAT HAPPENS THEN? IF THAT BUILDING IS GONE? WE HAVE NO OPTIONS.

FINALLY, PLEASE CAUTIOUSLY ASSESS THE NEW TORRES FUNDING PROPOSAL PUT FORWARD BY CITY STAFF, WHICH REQUIRES ONLY APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL, NOT THE VOTERS.

THIS EFFORT COULD CIRCUMVENT WHAT HAS BEEN THE STATED INTENT OF COMMISSIONERS COURT TO GO TO THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VINCENT.

MICHAEL. HE. HE HAD TO LEAVE. ALL RIGHT. DID HE HAVE ANY WRITTEN STATEMENT TO PUT ON THE RECORD? NO. HE ASKED ME TO SPEAK. WELL, BETTY, I WILL ALLOW THAT.

GO AHEAD. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS UNDER HIS TIME OR THAT YOU'VE ALREADY FINISHED? IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM.

NO. I THANK THE CITIZENS TO BE HERE. THANK YOU.

BETTY. ALL RIGHT. EDWARD ROMERO.

IS THAT ROMERO? ROMERO. ROMERO. ROMERO. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS EDDIE ROMERO, CHIEF STRATEGY OFFICER AT CENTRAL SAN ANTONIO, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR DOWNTOWN MEMBER RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS OUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE MOU PROCESS AND DISCUSSIONS AMONG BEXAR COUNTY, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND SAN ANTONIO SPURS HOLDINGS.

EVERY HEADLINE HAS UNDERSCORED THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS MOMENT.

FOR ME, THE HEADLINE THAT HIT HOME WAS SAN ANTONIO SPURS PLAYER HARRISON BARNES AND HIS WIFE, BRITTNEY BARNES. $250,000 DONATION TO ALAMO PROMISE, A TUITION FREE PROGRAM BENEFITING STUDENTS AT SAINT PHILIP'S COLLEGE.

THE SPURS ORGANIZATION HAS CREATED A RIPPLE EFFECTS AND GENERATIONAL IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY, ONE THAT'S BEEN UNPARALLELED SINCE I WAS A KID.

WHETHER IT'S WATCHING GAMES AT MY GRANDPA'S HOUSE WITH MY COUSINS OFF CINCINNATI AVENUE, OR HAVING THE SPURS COYOTE VISIT OUR SCHOOLS UP IN THE NORTHEAST SIDE. OR IN 2014, I WAS IN MY SECOND YEAR AT CENTRO AND SPURS BROUGHT HOME THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES CELEBRATED DOWNTOWN AT THIS MOMENT.

IT ALSO CARRIES UNMATCHED ECONOMIC BENEFITS. A STUDY COMMISSIONED BY THE H-E-B BUD FOUNDATION AND THE SAN ANTONIO BOARD OF REALTORS CITES THAT WHEN MEASURED BY VALUE PER ACRE, DOWNTOWN GENERATES PROPERTY TAX REVENUE TEN TIMES HIGHER THAN THE CITYWIDE AVERAGE AND 12 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE COUNTY WIDE AVERAGE. A THRIVING DOWNTOWN MEANS REVENUE TO PAY FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WE HEARD TODAY.

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ROADS, PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE COUNTY.

CENTRAL REMAINS COMMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS WORK.

THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE WORK TO DO, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE SPURS ORGANIZATION AND THE DEEP ROOTED VALUES AND THEIR TANGIBLE COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY AND OPPORTUNITY IN SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU TO THE BARNES FAMILY.

AND THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THAT I DID NOT CALL YOUR NAME? I'VE TRIED. I'VE CALLED ALL NAMES THAT HAD A WRITTEN NOTICE GIVEN TO ME.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN HERE WHO HAS REQUESTED TO SPEAK? AND I DID NOT HAVE YET TO CALL YOUR NAME AT THIS TIME.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION (DISCUSSION ONLY: CLOSED TO PUBLIC)]

THE TIME IS NOW 3:14 P.M.. I WILL CLOSE THE THE PUBLIC HEARING A PUBLIC SESSION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 551 OF THE WANTED TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS MAY BE DISCUSSED AND ACT UPON, IF APPROPRIATE, IN OPEN SESSION. 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY FOR ADVICE REGARDING A PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR SETTLEMENT OFFERS IN THE MATTERS OF PRUNEDA VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY, A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT UNDER THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS RELATED TO UNPAID OVERTIME ACCRUED FROM YEARS 2020 TO PRESENT. VASQUEZ VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY PURSUANT TO 551071 CONSULTANT COUNSEL CONSULT CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY FOR ADVICE REGARDING A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENT BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH CHAPTER FIVE FIVE, ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, SPECIFICALLY I. A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BY AND AMONG BEXAR COUNTY, A TEXAS POLITICAL SUBDIVISION.

THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, A MUNICIPAL CORPORATION AND SAN ANTONIO SPURS HOLDINGS LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY OWNING THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION FRANCHISE FOR THE PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL TEAM KNOWN AS SAN ANTONIO SPURS.

SUBSECTION I. DOUBLE I SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN DROPPED.

THE UNDER 551.087. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING SUBSECTION A, A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING SIGNED AMONG BEXAR COUNTY, A TEXAS POLITICAL SUBDIVISION. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, SAN ANTONIO SPURS HOLDINGS, LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY OWNING THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION FRANCHISE FOR THE PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL TEAM KNOWN AS THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS. I PRESUME ONLY THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE ROOM ARE CURRENTLY PRESENT.

I'LL ORDER THAT ANY CAMERAS OR RECORDINGS OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ARE PROHIBITED.

ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 4:12 P.M.. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE END OF THIS MEETING.

WE'RE BACK IN THE OPEN SESSION. WE'LL TAKE UP ACTION ON THOSE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE ON OUR AGENDA.

THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE NOT. THERE WILL BE NO ACTION TAKEN ON THOSE ISSUES.

SO I WILL CALL UP NOW. AGENDA ITEM 1.02 DISCUSSION APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS.

[102. Discussion and appropriate action regarding the following items: a. A Memorandum of Understanding by and among Bexar County, a Texas political subdivision, the City of San Antonio, a municipal corporation and San Antonio Spurs Holdings, L.L.C., a Texas limited company owning the National Basketball Association franchise for the professional basketball team known as the San Antonio Spurs. (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Peter Sakai) b. A Status update from Derrick Howard, Freeman Coliseum Executive Director, regarding facility assessments of the Bexar County Community Arenas and long-term planning for the Freeman Grounds.]

A A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BY AMONG BEXAR COUNTY A TEXAS POLITICAL SUBDIVISION.

THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, A MUNICIPAL CORPORATION SAN ANTONIO SPURS HOLDINGS, LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED COMPANY OWNING THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION FRANCHISE FOR THE PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL TEAM KNOWN AS THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS.

B, A STATUS UPDATE FROM DEREK HOWARD, FREEMAN COLISEUM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, REGARDING FACILITY ASSESSMENTS OF BEXAR COUNTY COMMUNITY ARENAS AND LONG TERM PLANNING FOR THE FREEMAN GROUNDS. AS I ASKED PERMISSION FROM THE COURT, WE WILL NOW TAKE UP 102 B.

I'LL ASK DEREK HOWARD AND HIS TEAM TO PLEASE COME FORWARD.

DEREK, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US A REPORT IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY ARENAS.

AND I BELIEVE YOU ALSO HAVE A POWERPOINT TOO.

SO DID THAT I BELIEVE A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT THAT'S POPPED ON THE SCREEN, AND I ASSUME EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF THAT.

CAN WE GET A COPY? WE HAVE A PRINTOUT. WHERE ARE THE COPIES? THOMAS? OKAY, WE'RE GETTING THEM PRINTED OUT.

ALL RIGHT, DEREK, LET'S LET'S LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OBVIOUSLY ON, ON OUR SITE IS THE FACILITY ASSESSMENTS FOR THE FROST BANK BUILDING.

THE FROST BANK BUILDING, AS WE ALL KNOW, IS AROUND 25 YEARS OLD.

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AND IT'S LIKE, NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR HOME OR YOUR CAR, ANY, ANY TYPE OF ENTITY THAT HAS MOVING PARTS, MECHANICAL PARTS, BREAKABLE PARTS, PARTS THAT GET USED VERY OFTEN HAS CREATES A WHAT WE CALL A DENIGRATION OVER TIME AND IN MANY CASES 25 YEARS FOR MANY OF THESE COMPONENTS BEGIN TO SET WHAT WE CALL END OF LIFE OR END OF USE.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT END OF LIFE OR END OF USE, THEY'RE CERTAINLY AT A MAJOR DENIGRATION OF SERVICE CAPABILITIES IN THEIR PROCESS.

AND SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT A BUILDING THAT HOSTS AROUND A MILLION PEOPLE A DAY FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS, THAT IS A LOT OF PRESSURE AND STRESS ON THE BUILDINGS.

ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY, AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE BUILDINGS, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE COURT MEMBERS, OUR PARTNERS AND SPURS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CREDIT, MY BOARD, BECAUSE NONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE FOUND IN THE INSPECTION ARE RELATED TO ANY KIND OF DENIGRATED DENIGRATION OF SERVICE.

THERE HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD PRACTICES PUT IN PLACE ON MAINTAINING THE SYSTEMS AND CONTROLS IN THE BUILDINGS TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY OVER THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE BEEN HERE.

AND SO DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I POINTED THAT OUT INITIALLY.

THE SECOND THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE BROUGHT IN A TEAM. VENUE SOLUTIONS, LED BY THIS GENTLEMAN, MR. MIKE WOOLLEY, TO TO DO THE INSPECTIONS. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THERE ARE MANY BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST 25, 30 YEARS IN THIS COUNTRY. AND SO WE ARE NOT ALONE IN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN OUR COMMUNITY REGARDING FACILITY ASSESSMENTS AND OR FACILITY ANALYSIS.

WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A GROUP ACTUALLY LED BY MIKE ON MANY OF THESE PROJECTS WHO HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 24 MONTHS, ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HELPING COMMUNITIES DO REVIEWS ON THEIR VENUES TO FIND OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT WHAT THE NEEDS AND ASSESSMENTS ARE LONG TERM.

I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH A FEW OF THESE, AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION.

THE MODA CENTER IN PORTLAND, WHERE THE PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS PLAY, THEY DID THAT. THE KIA CENTER IN ORLANDO, WHERE THE MAGIC PLAY, THEY DID THAT. I KEEP SAYING THIS WRONG.

THE ACRISURE ARENA STADIUM. I APOLOGIZE IN PITTSBURGH WITH THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS PLAY.

THEY DID THAT LINCOLN FINANCIAL FIELD WHERE THIS YEAR'S WINNING SUPER BOWL PHILADELPHIA EAGLES PLAY.

THEY DID THAT NRG STADIUM AS WELL AS NRG CENTER IN HOUSTON.

THEY DID THAT. THEY DID A LOT OF WORK IN HOUSTON RIGHT NOW AS WELL FEDEX FORUM WITH THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES PLAY.

THEY DID THAT CENTER AND RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

THE H-E-B CENTER WHERE SAN ANTONIO SPURS D-LEAGUE TEAMS PLAYS.

THEY DID THAT ASSESSMENT AS WELL. SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TO MIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH MORE SPECIFICALLY THE PRESENTATION THAT HE HAS FOR YOU.

DID Y'ALL WANT TO USE THE POWERPOINT OR ARE YOU ARE YOU.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO USE WE'RE GOING TO USE THE POWERPOINT. AND YOU HAVE A CLICKER OR YOU DO. OKAY.

LET'S GO. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE PRESENTATION.

AS DEREK SAID, THIS IS A NATURAL EVOLUTION IN TERMS OF THE LIFE OF THE BUILDING IS REALLY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WELL IT'S BEING MAINTAINED.

IS IT BEING MAINTAINED ACCORDING TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND BEST PRACTICES.

WE TALK ABOUT BEST PRACTICES. AND SO IT'S ONE THING TO SAY HERE'S WHAT A SYSTEM IS IN ITS LIFE CYCLE.

BUT IT'S ALSO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S BEING MAINTAINED, WHO'S DOING THE WORK AND HOW WELL THEY'RE DOCUMENTING THAT.

SO YOU CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN AND MIKE WOOLLEY W O O L E Y AND THE COMPANY YOU'RE WITH, VENUE SOLUTIONS GROUP, WE'RE BASED OUT OF MIDDLE TENNESSEE OUTSIDE OF NASHVILLE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO THE PROCESS WE WERE ON SITE LAST MAY FOR THREE SOLID DAYS.

WALKING THROUGH THE BUILDING, PUT OUR PUTTING OUR HANDS ON THE EQUIPMENT INTERVIEWING THE OPERATIONS STAFF.

CASEY AND HIS STAFF WERE AVAILABLE TO US THE WHOLE TIME.

THAT'S A KEY PART OF THIS IS HAVING ACCESS TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE MAINTAINING THE SYSTEMS IN THE BUILDING DOING VISUAL INSPECTIONS, LOOKING AT PROJECT DRAWINGS. OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS A RENOVATION IN 2015 AND 2016.

SO UNDERSTANDING WHAT RENOVATIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE BUILDING OVER THE, YOU KNOW, THE LIFE OF THE BUILDING AND ANY OTHER PREVIOUS DOCUMENTS THAT THE SPURS HAD PRODUCED. SO THAT WAS OUR DATA COLLECTION FOR THE TIME THAT THAT WE DID OUR ANALYSIS.

AND SO OUR PROJECT TEAM WAS A MIX OF NATIONAL EXPERTS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE IN SPORTS, ENTERTAINMENT, BUILDING ARENAS AND STADIUMS. SO THIS WAS OUR CONSULTANT TEAM.

SO IT WASN'T JUST VENUE SOLUTIONS GROUP DOING THE WORK.

WE HAD SEVEN OTHER FIRMS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE ASSESSMENT.

THE AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT ARCHITECTURE AND INTERIORS, WE'RE LOOKING AT FINISHED SPACES, WE'RE LOOKING AT DRESSING ROOMS AND LOCKER ROOMS AND THE PREMIUM AREAS, OFFICE SPACE, ANYTHING THAT THE CUSTOMER EVENT USER AND THE FANS WOULD INTERACT WITH IN THEIR EXPERIENCE INSIDE AN ARENA.

LOOKED AT THE GETTING INTO THE NON-SEXY PART OF THE OF THE ARENA.

LOOKING AT THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS, LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE,

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WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THE BONES OR THE BUILDING ARE REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

LOOKING AT TECHNOLOGY. TECHNOLOGY IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST EVOLVING ASPECTS OF SPORTS, ENTERTAINMENT, BUILDING VENUES. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT VIDEO AND AUDIO AND BROADCAST INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THAT TECHNOLOGY IS JUST MOVING SO FAST. SO WE DO WE WE LOOKED AT THAT VERY COMPREHENSIVELY.

WE LOOKED AT THE ROOFS AS WELL AS THE FACADE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CONCRETE PANELING AND THE AND THE CURTAIN WALLS AND THE STOREFRONT.

LOOKED AT THE FOOD SERVICE, UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF FOOD SERVICE EQUIPMENT, LOOKING AT THE RETAIL EQUIPMENT AND DISPLAYS.

AND THE LAST PART OF THIS WAS VERTICAL TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS THE ELEVATORS, ESCALATORS AND THE ADA LIFTS.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY SAYING, WHY DO WE DO THIS OR WHY? WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE BUILDING BEING MAINTAINED TO A TO A HIGH STANDARD? YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING ANY EXISTING ISSUES NOT JUST OPERATIONALLY, BUT JUST IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES WITH SYSTEMS IN THE BUILDING.

PROBABLY THE MOST KEY THING IS REALLY IT CREATES A BENCHMARK FOR FUTURE EVALUATION.

SO AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU MAKE ANOTHER ROUND OF RENOVATIONS, YOU'VE GOT A DOCUMENT THAT REALLY GIVES YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE SYSTEMS ARE IN THE BUILDING AND WHERE THOSE REPLACEMENTS ARE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE PLACE.

AND REALLY PRIORITIZING CAPITAL SPEND, IT'S UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE PRIORITIES ARE BASED ON CODES.

IT COULD BE BASED ON SYSTEMS, END OF LIFE, ON VERTICAL TRANSPORTATION.

WE DEAL WITH COMPONENT OBSOLESCENCE A LOT. SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTANDING ALL ASPECTS OF THAT.

THAT IS REALLY THE GENESIS OR THE REASON WHY YOU DO THE ASSESSMENT.

KEY OBSERVATIONS. WE REALLY LOOKED AT THE NEXT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE PRESENTATION IS REALLY THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF WHAT ARE THOSE KEY ELEMENTS THAT ARE END OF LIFE THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED? AND PRIMARILY IT'S FOCUSED ON MECHANICAL, MECHANICAL SYSTEMS IN THE BUILDING, WHICH TYPICALLY HAVE A 25 YEAR LIFE CYCLE, AS DEREK TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE SYSTEMS JUST BECOME END OF LIFE.

AND THEY THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED BASICALLY JUST DUE TO THE AGE OF THE BUILDING.

THE AND THEN WE GET INTO THE TECHNOLOGY ASPECT.

THE LAST TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE THAT WAS DONE IN THE BUILDING WAS THE 2015, 2016 RENOVATION.

SO A LOT OF THE THOSE SYSTEMS ARE REACHING THEIR TEN YEAR END OF LIFE.

AND THEN FINALLY THE ELEVATORS AND ESCALATORS.

WHEN YOU GET INTO YEARS 20 TO 25IN THE LIFE OF A BUILDING OR THAT EQUIPMENT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HAVING TO MODERNIZE THOSE SYSTEMS BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST, YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS IS AN EXPECTED USABLE LIFE.

AND A LOT OF THE COMPONENTS OF THESE SYSTEMS, THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE.

SO IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE AND THEY GO DOWN, YOU'LL HAVE A HARD TIME HAVING FINDING REPLACEMENT PARTS.

AND SO WE WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU BEGIN TO TO PRIORITIZE THE REPLACEMENT AND MODERNIZATION OF THOSE SYSTEMS AND FOOD SERVICE EQUIPMENT. REFRIGERATION, WHICH IS A KEY ASPECT OF THAT ARE COMING INTO LIFE.

SO THOSE ARE THE KEY ASPECTS OF PROBABLY THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IN TERMS OF WHERE THOSE INVESTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE IN THE BUILDING.

SO ARCHITECTURE, INTERIORS, WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE LOCKER ROOMS. VISITING MBA ARE GOING TO NEED SOME LEVEL OF REFURBISHMENT OR REPLACEMENT.

EXTERIOR CONCRETE REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT. THE SPURS HAVE ALREADY REPLACED A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE EXTERIOR.

AND IT'S ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING. IT WAS PART OF THAT IN TERMS OF WHERE THE BUILDING WAS BUILT AND ON THE SUBSURFACE THAT IT WAS BUILT ON.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR STADIUMS AND ARENAS 20, 25 YEARS TO HAVE THINGS LIKE CONCRETE SUBSIDENCE AND TREES THAT GROW UP AND CREATE ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THESE ARE THESE SOME OF THESE ISSUES HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED SINCE IT'S BEEN ALMOST 11 MONTHS, TEN MONTHS SINCE WE DID THE ASSESSMENT. AND SO THEY'RE THEY'RE BEING ADDRESSED BY THE OPERATOR.

MEP AND FIRE PROTECTION. AGAIN, MOST OF THESE SYSTEMS ARE ARE NEARING END OF LIFE.

SO BALL AIR HANDLING IN THE BULK GOES TO OCCUPANT COMFORT.

CHILLERS ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE REPLACED. SPURS ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS.

THEY'VE ALREADY BEGUN THE INVESTIGATION OF THESE SYSTEMS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE STRUCTURE. THE BONES OF THE BUILDING ARE REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

THE VAST THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS JUST SOME OF THE HEAVING OF THE CONCRETE ON THE, ON THE SERVICE LEVEL, WHICH HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED BY MULTIPLE ENGINEERING FIRMS, AND THEY DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO GET ANY WORSE THAN IT ALREADY HAS, BUT IT IS A CONDITION THAT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE BUILDING, AND THERE'S JUST MINOR SPALLS OF CONCRETE, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT ON A 20 PLUS YEAR OLD BUILDING.

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AND THE SPURS ARE FAIRLY PROACTIVE IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THOSE ITEMS. TECHNOLOGY IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST NUMBER AS IT RELATES TO LONG TERM CAPITAL PLANNING.

AGAIN, 2015 2016 THE LAST MAJOR REPLACEMENT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING THE CENTER HUNG VIDEO BOARD WHICH IS IN THE TOP PICTURE THE RIBBON BOARDS AND THE BALL VOMITORY DISPLAYS. ALL OF THE SYSTEMS THAT GO TO DRIVE THE CONTENT FOR THESE VIDEO BOARDS HAVE TO BE REPLACED AS WELL. AND TYPICALLY NBA REQUIREMENTS FOR VIDEO PRODUCTION AND ALL OF THAT EVOLVE OVER TIME.

AND SO EVERY TIME YOU REPLACE THESE SYSTEMS, YOU THEN HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR ROOM IS SIZED APPROPRIATELY AND THAT YOU HAVE THE ROOM TO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND THE AND THE AND THE AND THE SPACE FOR ALL OF THE OPERATORS IN THAT ROOM IN ORDER TO WORK.

SO THAT'S AN INVESTIGATION. IT TAKES A LITTLE MORE ANALYSIS, BUT IT IS A YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUGE PART OF THE FAN EXPERIENCE.

AND AND IT IS IT'S ONE OF PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACTFUL PART OF THE FAN EXPERIENCE.

ROOFS ROOFS ARE IN FAIRLY GOOD SHAPE. THEY'VE BEEN VERY WELL MAINTAINED WITH THE NAME OF THE OR WITH THE CHANGE IN THE NAMING RIGHTS.

SOME OF THE ROOFS HAVE BEEN RECOVERED NOT COMPLETELY, BUT HAVE A LAYER OF MEMBRANE PUT ON TOP.

BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ROOFS ARE ORIGINAL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE REPLACED IN THE NEXT 3 TO 4 YEARS.

ELEVATORS AND ESCALATORS AGAIN. IT'S JUST AGE.

AGE OF THE SYSTEMS. MODERNIZING THESE SYSTEMS IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR, BUT IT WILL NEED TO OCCUR PRIMARILY JUST BECAUSE OF THE OBSOLESCENCE AND ACCESS TO PARTS. THE LONGER YOU GO, JUST THE MORE DIFFICULT IT IS TO OUTSOURCE OR TO, TO ACCESS THAT THOSE PARTS AND TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THESE OPERATIONAL. THESE ARE RISK MANAGEMENT COMPONENT ISSUES IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM OPERATING CORRECTLY LIFE SAFETY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IT'S IT'S IT'S HOW FANS GET UP AND DOWN THROUGH THE BUILDING.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY KEEP THESE SYSTEMS A TOP NOTCH SHAPE IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM OPERATIONAL, BECAUSE YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE IN A GAME AND THEN HAVE THESE GO DOWN ON YOU.

BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY AFFECTS THE FAN EXPERIENCE FOOD SERVICE EQUIPMENT GENERALLY IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION.

A LOT OF IT WAS RENOVATED IN 2015, 2016. KITCHENS WERE RENOVATED IN 2023.

THE SPURS AND ARAMARK HAVE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE ABOUT CHANGING CONCEPTS AND KEEPING FOOD CONCEPTS FRESH AND CONTEMPORARY.

AN EXAMPLE OF THAT ARE SOME OF THE WALK OUT MARKETS THAT THEY'VE INSTALLED IN THE BUILDING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE CURRENT TREND IN SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT.

WE'RE DOING MORE MARKETS THAN DOING BELLY UP CONCESSION STANDS.

AND SO IT'S IT'S BEEN A COMPLETE EVOLUTION COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC IN TERMS OF THE FOOD EXPERIENCE, DELIVERY IN SPORTS, ENTERTAINMENT. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, SOME OF THE REFRIGERATION IS GOING TO NEED TO BE REPLACED.

JUST SYSTEMS OR REFRIGERATION SYSTEMS THAT ARE END OF LIFE.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE CALCULATED ABOUT $77 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS, BASICALLY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING GOING OUT TO 2029. AND AND SO, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE OF THE HIGHER PRIORITIES THAT THAT WILL DEFINITELY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

THAT THAT AFFECT THE FAN EXPERIENCE, THAT AFFECT THE USER EXPERIENCE THAT WILL THAT, THAT WILL NEED TO BE MADE OVER THE LIFETIME OR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. AND THEN, DEREK, WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT ALSO WITH THE FREEMAN COLISEUM AND THE EXPO HALLS, THEY HAVE PROJECTED THAT A NEW ROOF FOR FREEMAN COLISEUM IS IN THE $4 MILLION RANGE, SOME NEW INTERIOR WATER LINES, $250,000 PLUS HVAC FOR FREEMAN AND THE EXPO HALLS, 3 TO $4 MILLION.

SO HE'S PROJECTED ABOUT 7 OR $8 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED TO FREEMAN AND THE EXPO HALLS.

AND IF WE WERE TO GO OUT 20 YEARS ON FROST BANK CENTER.

YOU SAW THE $77 MILLION, BUT YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT ABOUT A $245 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS PRIMARILY A RESULT OF MULTIPLE REPLACEMENT CYCLES THAT WOULD INCUR OVER THAT ADDITIONAL 15 YEARS.

AND SO I NEEDED TO YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS RESPONSIBLE THAT WE SHOWED THAT TO YOU, THAT OUR ANALYSIS IS NOT JUST A FIVE YEAR BLOCK, BUT WE USUALLY GO 20, 20 YEARS OUT SO THE OWNER COULD UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE WHERE THOSE ADDITIONAL REPLACEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE NEED TO TAKE PLACE BASED ON THE AGE OF THE SYSTEMS. SO WE'VE DONE THE ASSESSMENT.

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AND THE ASSESSMENT IS REALLY THE FIRST PART WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE LIFE OF A BUILDING AND IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE BUILDING.

BUT IF, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT AT SOME POINT THERE WILL NEED TO BE A MASTER PLAN DONE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, DOES THE BUILDING MEET THE NEEDS OF THE OF THE USERS AND THE AND THE TEAM AND KIND OF WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE? SO AT SOME POINT YOU TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND YOU SAY, OKAY, DO WE HAVE IT PROGRAMED APPROPRIATELY? IT'S A 20 PLUS YEAR OLD BUILDING. SO REALLY YOU DO THE ASSESSMENT AND THEN AND THEN ULTIMATELY THERE WOULD BE A MASTER PLAN BEFORE YOU WOULD DO A RENOVATION, RIGHT? SO TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE COMPONENTS ARE OF WHERE THE SYSTEMS ARE IN THEIR LIFE CYCLE, BUT THEN IS THE BUILDING HAVE THE APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, PREMIUM MIX, DOES IT HAVE THE RIGHT SIZE LOCKER ROOMS AND DRESSING ROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CONSUMER AND THE AND THE EVENT USERS.

SO THIS IS ALL JUST PART OF A PROCESS. WE ARE THE BEGINNING OF THAT PROCESS TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE BUILDING WILL BE.

SO QUESTION COMMISSIONER CALVERT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT REPORT, I APPRECIATE IT.

IN THOSE TWO DAYS THAT YOU WERE ON PREMISE DID YOU HAVE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER ASSESS THE FOUNDATION? WE ARE. OUR ARENA IS ON A LANDFILL BUILT OVER LANDFILL OVER HOUSTON CLAY.

AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A $10 MILLION RENOVATION FOR DRAINAGE ALONG THE BACK.

I'M SURE YOU SAW, BECAUSE THE WALLS COLLAPSED.

AND OF COURSE, WITH A BUILDING THAT HEAVY, YOU'VE GOT SHIFTING.

DID YOU ALL GET A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO SWEEP THERE? WE DID A VISUAL EVALUATION. WE DID NOT DO ANY TYPE OF EVALUATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE DESTRUCTIVE TESTING, WHERE WE WOULD GO WHERE WE WOULD TAKE OUT CONCRETE AND GO INTO THE SOIL.

THERE HAS BEEN MULTIPLE INVESTIGATIONS BY STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS ON THAT CONDITION THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE INTERIOR PORTION OF THE BUILDING WHERE THERE HAS BEEN SOME MOVEMENT OF CONCRETE, WHERE THEY HAVE ACTUALLY GONE INTO THE SLAB AND BELOW, AND THAT'S WHY THEY CAME UP WITH THEIR THEIR CONCLUSION WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO GET WORSE, THAT THAT CONDITION HAD STABILIZED.

AND SO OUR OUR JOB IS REALLY TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE VISUAL THAT AND NOT NOT REPLICATE THAT BECAUSE IT HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE.

OKAY. WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DETAIL THAT YOU PUT IN.

I HAVE A OBVIOUSLY A STRONG LEVEL OF SECURITY IN THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.

I MEAN, THE KEY FOR US IN DEALING WITH THESE FUNDS NOW IS TO LOOK AT THE CAPACITY GOING SEVERAL DECADES FORWARD.

ONE OF ONE OF ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, I KNOW YOU ALL DID THE FEDEX CENTER IN MEMPHIS, RIGHT? SO THE MAYOR, PAUL YOUNG, HAS TOLD CITY COUNCIL THERE'S ABOUT A $230 MILLION PRICE TAG ON THEIR RENOVATIONS.

I THINK 80 MILLION IS BEING EXPEDITED SOONER THAN LATER FOR THE NEEDS OF THE FACILITY.

SO WE'RE IN THE SAME BALLPARK, BASICALLY. PARDON THE PUN OF THAT KIND OF MAGNITUDE OF NEED.

RIGHT? YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT THE RENOVATION PLAN FOR THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN FULLY FLESHED OUT.

I THINK THE THE NUMBER THAT YOU HAD REFERENCED WAS PART OF THE STATE CONTRIBUTION THAT INCLUDED, I THINK IT WAS $350 MILLION. PART OF THAT WENT TO THE FOOTBALL FOOTBALL RENOVATION.

AND SO THAT IS THE THAT IS THE PUBLIC. I THINK THAT'S THE CONTRIBUTION THAT'S CURRENTLY FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT.

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE RENOVATION, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN A PART OF THAT. I JUST I LIVE IN TENNESSEE, SO I KEEP UP WITH THAT AND UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHERE THAT IS.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT RENOVATION HAS BEEN COMPLETELY FLESHED OUT.

BUT THAT WAS YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU REFERENCED, I THINK WOULD GO TO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE, WHICH IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING AND THE SYSTEMS AND ALL OF THAT.

WHAT ONE THING I WASN'T COMPLETELY CLEAR ON WAS THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES.

IS THAT INCLUDED IN YOUR ESTIMATES? YES, IT'S IN OUR TECHNOLOGY.

AND SO THINGS LIKE DATA AND IT TELEPHONE AND ALL OF THAT WOULD BE WRAPPED INTO THE TECHNOLOGY AND A LOT OF THE NEWER TECHNOLOGIES THAT WERE AS IT RELATES TO IT, ARE CONVERGED NETWORKS.

WE TALK ABOUT THAT. SO IT'S NOT THEY'RE NOT SEPARATE NETWORKS ANYMORE.

THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY ONE PIPE. AND SO ALL OF THE DATA KIND OF TRAVELS THROUGH THAT, WHETHER IT'S BROADCASTING AND IT DATA AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO IT'S KIND OF ALL WRAPPED INTO, INTO THE, THE NUMBERS THAT WE SHOWED.

SO, SO WHILE THE CITY IS EXPANDING THEIR, THEIR CONVENTION SPACE, THIS ESTIMATE DOESN'T CALL FOR ANY EXPANSION OF LIKE EXPO HALLS OR

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IT'S JUST MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES.

RIGHT. NO, NO. CORRECT. THIS IS JUST MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES.

ONE POINT I WILL MAKE IS THAT AS AS YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS GOING OUT AND AGAIN, WE WE'RE NOT THE FUTURE COULD COULD COULD CHANGE THINGS.

RIGHT. THESE NUMBERS ARE ALL REFLECTIVE OF HAVING AN NBA FRANCHISE IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S THAT.

THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE ALL BASED ON. SO THERE COULD BE SOME SOME SHIFTING OF THE NUMBERS.

WE DON'T WE DON'T. WE THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, TO YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, NO, SIR, THERE'S NOTHING RELATED TO THE EXPO HALL.

WE DID GIVE YOU SOME SMALL NUMBERS ON THE FREEMEN, BUT THAT IS IT.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

ON THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE, IF IT WAS A NON MBA BUILDING, YOU WOULD NOT BE INVESTING ON THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE ON THE VIDEO AT THE LEVEL THAT YOU WOULD WITH AN MBA TEAM. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KIND OF STANDARD THAT YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT, THAT AN NBA TEAM WOULD NEED. I GUESS, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE OVERSIGHT GROUP OF THE FACILITY, THERE HAS TO BE A REIMAGINING. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHY ALL THE BILLBOARDS ARE THERE BECAUSE WE DID $105 MILLION OF RENOVATIONS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT GOES AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT LOOK ORDERLY AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, HAPHAZARD KIND OF DELETION BY AD HOC.

YOU KNOW, THIS ONE'S BULB'S OUT. YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE A REAL PLAN, I GUESS, THAT YOU ALL WOULD HELP US OR SOMEBODY WOULD HELP US PUT TOGETHER FOR THE DIGRESSION OF THE DIGITAL. YEAH. YEAH. ONCE THE KIND OF THE VISION OF WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE, THEN YOU THEN YOU CREATE. THAT'S WHAT THE MASTER PLAN WOULD FLESH OUT A LOT OF IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS WHAT WHAT'S THE PROGRAMING GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERTS AND THE EVENT ACTIVITY AND WHAT THE RODEO NEEDS TO SUPPORT ITS ACTIVITIES IN THE BUILDING AND ALL OF THAT, AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN A IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.

AND YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF YOU DON'T NEED CADILLACS AND FERRARIS, RIGHT? YOU JUST YOU NEED YOU NEED SYSTEMS IN THE BUILDING THAT ARE GOING TO HOLD UP AND THAT ARE GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE USERS.

SO AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN WE DID THOSE RENOVATIONS BACK IN 2015, THE COUNTY DID GET SOME FLAK ABOUT GETTING RID OF FURNITURE AND THINGS. THE VOTERS FELT LIKE THEY HAD JUST PAID FOR LIKE SEATS.

I'LL GIVE YOU. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF FURNITURE THAT WE WE GAVE AWAY.

AND SO WE, AS YOU KNOW, WE MADE AN EFFORT TO TRY AND GIVE SOME COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE WERE GETTING RID OF.

SO PEOPLE WILL BE KIND OF ASKING BASED UPON THAT EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, DIGITAL BILLBOARDS, WE PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBLE WAY TO GET THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE AS A, AS A COMMUNITY. SO WE'LL NEED SOME GUIDANCE THROUGH THAT BECAUSE WE DO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY. THANK YOU JUDGE.

I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION AND COMMISSIONER CALVERT'S POINTS.

AND I APPRECIATE THE THE KEY INSIGHT THAT THIS THESE ESTIMATES ARE BASED OFF OF AN NBA TEAM.

RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT THOSE CHANGES WOULD BE AND WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE IN A NON NBA TEAM SCENARIO.

AND I GUESS MAYBE TAKING THAT A STEP FURTHER.

RIGHT. IF THAT'S SOLELY RODEO OR THAT'S MUSIC VENUE OR THAT'S BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A WIDE RANGE OF ACTIVITIES, WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS 75 MILLION GO TO 70 MILLION OR DOES IT GO TO 60 MILLION OR YOU KNOW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE TRADE OFFS ARE TODAY.

SO I REALLY LOVE ALL THIS INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING.

BUT AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD AND THINKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE USES FOR THE FROST BANK CENTER, THEN HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT WHAT THOSE INVESTMENT COSTS WILL BE IN THOSE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS I THINK.

AND AGAIN, GREAT QUESTION. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE MASTER PLAN WOULD ADDRESS IS WHERE THOSE INVESTMENTS NEED TO TAKE PLACE AND AT WHAT LEVEL THEY NEED TO TAKE PLACE AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THE VISION OF THE BUILDING IS GOING FORWARD.

SO YOU HAVE THE CAPITAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST TO OPERATE A BUILDING IN A NON MBA AS A NON MBA BUILDING.

RIGHT. SO THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER EVALUATION.

AND HOW LONG WOULD THE THE MASTER PLAN TAKE FOR COMPLETION.

WELL TYPICALLY ONCE YOU ONCE YOU KICK THE MASTER PLAN OFF AND YOU HAVE YOUR MASTER PLAN TEAM, YOU'VE SELECTED THE ARCHITECT AND THE CONSULTANTS.

MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT A SIX MONTH EXERCISE IN TERMS OF MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS,

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SITTING DOWN AND UNDERSTANDING LIKE WHAT THE WHAT THE VISION OF THE BUILDING IS, AND THEN AND THEN CREATING THAT.

BECAUSE YOU REALLY NEED TO GET A LOT OF COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT INTO WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE.

WHAT IS THE RODEO NEED? WHAT DOES THE WHAT DO THE CONCERT PROMOTERS LOOK FOR? YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE THINGS COMMUNITY USE ASPECT, ALL OF THOSE HAVE TO BE WE HAVE TO HEAR THAT.

AND THEN THAT'S WHAT INFORMS THE THE MASTER PLAN.

SO SIX MONTHS IS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HEAR THERE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO FORWARD HERE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS MOU AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL NOVEMBER BALLOT, YOU BACK THAT UP AND IT HAS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE STATE IN JULY, JULY TIME FRAME.

WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY AT SIX MONTHS, LESS THAN SIX MONTHS.

SO AND THAT'S JUST IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET GET THAT INFORMATION BACK THAT I THINK ULTIMATELY WE NEED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO SET ASIDE FOR THESE INVESTMENTS IN, IN THE ARENAS.

AND THE GROUNDS THERE. SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED TO HEAR AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD.

NOW, AS PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE THE REVENUE SIDE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVENUE GENERATION WITH THOSE FACILITIES WOULD BE? WELL, YEAH. AND DID YOU WANT TO. SO WE'RE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, ON ON A BUSINESS PLAN AND MARKETING PLAN REVENUE SIDE. THE MASTER PLAN WOULD TAKE THAT TO, TO ANOTHER LEVEL.

WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS, IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT THE REVENUE SIDE TODAY FROM A LEVEL SET OF A OF A NON NBA ARENA BASED ON WHAT, WHAT WE THINK WE CAN BRING TO THE TO THE FACILITY IN A NON SPURS WORLD.

AND ALSO ON THE EXPENSE SIDE IS WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY COST TO OPERATE A BUILDING IN A NON AS A NON NBA BUILDING IN THIS MARKET.

SO THAT THAT PROCESS IS IS OCCURRING AS WELL.

OKAY. AND I APOLOGIZE. IS THERE GOING TO BE A REVENUE PRESENTATION AS WELL OR OR YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT'S NO REVENUE PRESENTATION.

OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE ABOUT 30 DAYS AWAY FROM THE REVENUE.

OKAY. AND I JUST HOPE, JUST AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHEN IT COMES TO EXPENSES, I HOPE ON THE REVENUE SIDE THAT WE WOULD THINK ABOUT IT FROM DIFFERENT POTENTIAL USES.

RIGHT. WHERE MAYBE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF INVESTMENT WOULD ALLOW US TO GENERATE X REVENUE, A HIGHER LEVEL OF INVESTMENT WOULD ALLOW US, YOU KNOW, TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. BUT WE HAVE TO ULTIMATELY MAKE THAT DECISION IN TERMS OF ROI FOR THE COUNTY.

LAST THING I'LL JUST MENTION HERE, WE HAD HAD A CONVERSATION AT ONE POINT WITH THE WITH YOU, DEREK, I BELIEVE, AROUND THE EXPO HALLS AND BEING ABLE TO EXPAND THERE.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN, IN THE THE EXPENSES HERE, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING, CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS.

THAT IS ACTUALLY A PART OF IT, OF THE BROADER MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANDED EXPOSITION SPACE.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 300 A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT SHY OF 1,000,000FT² OF SPACE NOW THAT WE USE SPECIFICALLY FOR ANIMALS DURING THE RODEO.

AND THAT'S IF YOU WALK DOWN WHAT WE CALL FREMONT BOULEVARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 250 ON ONE SIDE AND ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OVER THREE, ALMOST 300 ON THE OTHER SIDE. ONE SIDE IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY NEW SPACE.

AND SO THE THINKING POTENTIALLY COULD BE TO RENOVATE THAT SPACE SO WE COULD UTILIZE IT MORE WITH OTHER EVENTS DURING NON REGULAR SEASON.

THE OTHER SIDE IS A SPACE THAT ACTUALLY IS COMING TO AN END OF LIFE ITSELF BECAUSE IT HAS IN SOME CASES ASPHALT FLOORS AND IN SOME CASES CONCRETE FLOORS. AND SO WE WOULD WE WOULD DEMO THAT POTENTIALLY AGAIN AS WE'RE KIND OF TALKING THROUGH THE THE ASSUMPTIONS OF A MASTER PLAN AND PUT IN MORE SPACE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR EXPOSITION SPACE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME COULD BE UTILIZED FOR ANIMALS.

I MEAN, HOUSTON DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF IT AT NRG, WHERE THEIR EXPOSITION SPACE IS THE SAME SPACE THAT THEY UTILIZE THAT THEY PUT THEIR ANIMALS IN DURING DURING THEIR SHOW. YEAH. AND I WOULD JUST MENTION, TOO, WHEN IT COMES TO THE REVENUE STUDY, WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT POTENTIAL COMPETITION WITH ANOTHER ARENA AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF VENUES AND WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL VENUES POTENTIALLY, AND PROJECT MARVEL AND THESE ITEMS. AND SO THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE MORE COMPETITION. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN'T COUNT THAT SAME BENEFIT, RIGHT. EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BRING IN THAT SAME CONCERT.

IT'S ONLY GOING TO GO TO ONE VENUE. RIGHT. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOUBLE COUNTING WHEN IT COMES TO THE TO THE REVENUE PIECE.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START. I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE US.

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I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A ROADMAP, AND I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT HAS TO BE A MASTER PLAN THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE INITIATED SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. JUSTIN MR. THANK YOU JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE I GUESS IT'S SLIDE 17 THAT ITEMIZES THE FREEMAN IMPROVEMENTS. YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF BULLETS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ROOF, WATER LINE.

AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM, THERE'S A 7.8 MILLION PROJECTED IMPROVEMENTS.

IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF THOSE ITEMS ABOVE? YES. SO THAT'S A TOTAL THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST THE TOTAL OF THOSE.

OKAY. AND SO IS THAT LET'S JUST CALL IT 8 MILLION.

IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN THAT YOU'VE ITEMIZED ON PAGE 16? THAT'S THAT'S IN ADDITION TO. RIGHT. SO SO IT WOULD BE THE 77 MILLION OR SO FOR FROST BANK PLUS THE 8 MILLION ASSUMING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT THIS NOVEMBER.

THOSE WOULD BE ROUGH BALLPARK THE NUMBERS YOU WOULD USE AS A POTENTIAL LINE ITEM FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE FACILITIES.

IS THAT ACCURATE? OKAY. YES. AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS THESE ARE NOVEMBER.

I'M SORRY, THESE ARE NUMBERS FROM I GUESS MAY OF LAST YEAR.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO WITH INFLATION, I'M SURE THOSE NUMBERS WILL GO UP A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH. SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE HAS BEEN ESCALATED.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR MODEL THERE'S COST ESCALATION AS YOU GO OUT FOR THE FIVE YEARS.

BUT YOU KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXISTING ECONOMIC SITUATION TARIFFS ALL THOSE THINGS CAN COULD FACTOR INTO COST.

MORE COST ESCALATION. SO WE TELL PEOPLE IT'S LIKE YOU JUST YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE ALMOST ON A EVERY SIX MONTH, EVERY, YOU KNOW AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR I'D SAY NOW WE'RE PROBABLY ON A SIX MONTH TIMELINE IN TERMS OF JUST SEEING WHERE OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC TRENDS ARE GOING.

AND THEN AND THEN THE OTHER, I GUESS MAJOR ASSUMPTION HERE IS THAT AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTUALLY THE SPURS ARE IN THE BUILDING FOR, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS.

SO, SO THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE FACTORING IN THE SPURS AS A SIGNIFICANT MAJOR TENANT THERE.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING 27 MILLION IN IN YEAR ONE IN TECHNOLOGY IS BECAUSE IT COMPLIES WITH NBA STANDARDS. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? CORRECT.

OKAY. COULD IT COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT IF THAT WERE DIFFERENT.

BUT OKAY. I MEAN WHAT'S GIVE ME AN IDEA OF THAT VARIATION.

I MEAN SIZE OF THE CENTER HUNG VIDEO BOARD. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING MUCH LARGER, YOU KNOW THE PIXEL RESOLUTION IN THE PANELS IN TERMS OF THE CLARITY, YOU KNOW, PLAYS INTO THAT. SO IT'S SIZE AND IT'S IT'S IT'S QUALITY OF THE OF THE BOARD IN TERMS OF PIXEL PIXEL RESOLUTION.

YEAH. OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT AN NBA TEAM YOU DON'T NEED AS MANY OPERATORS IN THE CONTROL ROOM DRIVING CONTENT SO THAT YOU MAY NOT NEED AS MUCH EQUIPMENT AS YOU WOULD AS YOU WOULD NEED IF IT WAS. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A 30% DELTA? I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE? I MEAN, IT COULD IT COULD BE AS MUCH AS THAT.

OKAY. YEAH. AND COMMISSIONER, I WOULD ADD TO THAT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN NBA TEAM, DO YOU NEED LOCKER ROOMS ANYMORE? YEAH I MEAN THAT'S AND THOSE ARE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF A MASTER PLAN, A REPURPOSING OF THAT SPACE TO MEET EITHER THE RODEO OR YOUR OTHER EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD DO ONCE YOU CREATE THE VISION, YOU WOULD TAKE SPACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOCATED TO THEM AND THEN BASICALLY REPURPOSE THEM FOR REVENUE GENERATION OR JUST TO IMPROVE THE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY TO TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE FAN EXPERIENCE OR THE OR THE, THE USER EXPERIENCE.

OKAY. EVENT PRODUCER LET ME ASK YOU A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS AS THE AS THE COUNTY, AS THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT, OF COURSE, THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A 20 YEAR CAPITAL PLAN.

AND SO AGAIN, I'M ASSUMING THESE NUMBERS ARE WITH THE WITH THE AN NBA TEAM IN THERE.

THEY ARE. OKAY. SO SO YOU'VE GOT A TOTAL HERE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS OF, YOU KNOW, 244 MILLION.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY INCLUDING THE OCCASIONAL TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE THAT'S REGULAR MAINTENANCE TO HVAC AND CORRECT MECHANICAL SYSTEMS. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE FINANCED OVER PROBABLY A NUMBER OF VENUE TAX ELECTIONS BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONCE. BUT BUT THAT'S A PRETTY EYE OPENING NUMBER WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT GOES INTO MAINTAINING WHEN YOU GO OUT 20 YEARS.

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AND REASON THAT NUMBER GETS SO BIG IS WHEN YOU GO THREE AND 4% EVERY SINGLE YEAR, GOING OUT 20 YEARS, THOSE NUMBERS GET EXPONENTIALLY BIGGER BECAUSE WE'RE COMPOUNDING THAT COST ESCALATION OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND YOU GOT THERE'S A 20 YEAR COMMITMENT.

THOSE NUMBERS GET VERY, VERY LARGE WHEN YOU COMPOUND AND GO OUT THAT FAR.

AND THAT'S WHY WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN JUST SO YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM. AND ONCE YOU START GOING OUT PAST, YOU KNOW, YEAR 11 TO YEAR 20 SAME SYSTEMS, THINGS NEED TO BE REPLACED. BUT THE COMPOUNDING THOSE NUMBERS GET GET REALLY BIG.

YEAH. OKAY. SO I GUESS THE OTHER THING I'D ASK IS YOU MENTIONED THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR.

THAT, I GUESS. WOULD THAT INCLUDE AT THIS POINT, MAYBE A QUESTION FOR YOU, DEREK.

THE KIND OF THE VISIONING PROCESS THAT THE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER CALVERT HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

WHAT IF THE SPURS ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER ARENA? SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE A REIMAGINING, SO TO SPEAK, OF THAT SITE, THE COUNTY OWNED SITE.

IS THAT A LOT OF THAT WOULD INCLUDE A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT COMMISSIONER CALVERT HAS KIND OF HAD WITH THE COMMUNITY ALREADY, AND SOME OF THEIR SUGGESTIONS. WHAT WHAT WE TAKE IN WITH THE EXPERTS TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE BEST REVENUE RETURN OPPORTUNITIES ARE SO ALL THAT, ALL THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WILL KIND OF GET THROWN INTO THE SAUSAGE. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A MIX OF SOMETHING.

YEAH. SO SO IT COULD THAT POTENTIALLY COULD MAYBE CHANGE SOME OF THE NUMBERS I WOULD GUESS ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.

BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD IN SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR WHATEVER EITHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAY BE NEEDED THERE.

AND AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.

I MEAN, BUT BUT I'M THINKING AHEAD TO POTENTIALLY A NOVEMBER VENUE TAX ELECTION.

AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED TO GET FLESHED OUT ESSENTIALLY, IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE CURRENT FACILITY? WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE NEEDS? BECAUSE AGAIN, THE SPURS ARE GOING TO BE THERE AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS.

AND THEN ALSO WHAT DOES KIND OF THE THE PHASE TWO LOOK LIKE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S ANOTHER SITE THAT THEY MOVE TO IN 2032 OR BEYOND? IS THAT RIGHT? TRUE. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT NOW FOR JUDGE, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS, AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME GOOD FOLLOW UP CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

DEREK, I WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER CALVERT. I JUST I GUESS FOR THE PUBLIC TO KIND OF KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY MET AT THE TOWN HALLS. YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING FORWARD NEXT.

I'VE TOLD THE COURT THAT WE HAVE COMPILED THE REPORT.

IT'S ABOUT 400 PAGES, ACTUALLY. SO IT WILL HELP YOUR PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS MOVE DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE 400 PEOPLE WHO HAVE ATTENDED THAT PUBLIC PROCESS.

AND I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU, DEREK, YOU HAVE THE MOST EXPERTISE OVER THESE KINDS OF FACILITY MANAGEMENT, AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE FASTEST ABILITY TO GET US THAT SIX MONTH EXERCISE AND SOME OF THAT SIX MONTH EXERCISE.

WHILE I WASN'T HIRED TO BE THE CONSULTANT FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE THAT TOWN HALL STUFF BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE SOME AND WE ALSO HAVE IT ON VIDEO. SO THOSE CONSULTANTS COULD TAKE THOSE VIDEOS AND INTEGRATE THEM INTO OTHER OUTREACH THAT THEY DO WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO YOU MAY BE WORKING ON AN RFP OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE COURT TO HAVE YOUR CAB AUTHORITY GET THAT STUDY DONE. AND TO US, BECAUSE WE REALLY DO NEED TO HAVE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT JUDGE. AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, I HAVE READ AND I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS IN THE PRESS, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HURRY UP.

THE JUDGE NEEDS TO HURRY UP. I COMPLETELY DISAGREE, I THINK THE JUDGE IS MOVING AT A PACE THAT YOU KNOW, IS A GOOD PACE, AND YOU'VE BEEN MOVING VERY FAST TO GET THINGS DONE.

AND IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE DILLY DALLYING. I JUST I THINK THAT COMES MORE FROM THE CITY NEEDING TO KNOW WHAT THEIR NUMBERS NEED TO BE THAN, THAN THAN THE PROCESS THE JUDGE IS LEADING, WHICH IS MOVING IN AN APPROPRIATE MANNER.

SO I JUST CALLED YOU TO SAY I WANTED TO DEFEND YOU ON THAT ONE BECAUSE YOU WERE.

WE'RE MOVING AT A GOOD CLIP, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, CONSIDERING WHEN WE KIND OF FOUND OUT ABOUT EVERYTHING.

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THANK YOU JUDGE, WITHOUT BEING A THIS INTO THE GROUND, PUT UP PUT UP THAT SLIDE WITH THE MASTER PLAN BECAUSE YEAH, WE'RE I AM GOING OVER WHAT'S BEEN STATED OVER AND OVER, BUT I THINK I REALLY WANT TO TIE IT IN IN REGARDS TO WHAT THIS COURT AND I AS COUNTY JUDGE IS TRYING TO DO. WE WANT CAN WE GET TO THAT.

IT'S AT THE END BEFORE THE IT'S AT THE VERY END BEFORE Q&A.

THERE IT IS. I BELIEVE DEREK AND MIKE, YOU HAVE HELPED US UNDERSTAND AND YOU HAVE BECAUSE OF YOUR EXPERTISE THAT THE CRUCIAL PIECE IS NOT THE NUMBERS. I MEAN, THEY ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THE CRUCIAL PIECE IS A MASTER PLAN.

NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, AND I WANT TO LET THE COURT KNOW THAT AS SOON AS I KNEW THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF A NEW SPURS ARENA, WHICH WAS IN MY FIRST YEAR, I DIDN'T SIT AND JUST SAY, WELL, WHAT? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.

WE HAVE BEEN MEETING DEREK. YOU'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN THAT.

CODY DAVENPORT FOR THE SAN ANTONIO ROAD. HE'S BEEN PART OF THAT.

THE CITY AND THE SPURS HAVE ALSO BEEN PART OF THAT IS TO REALLY FIGURE OUT THIS MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE WITHOUT THIS MASTER PLAN, WE'RE KIND OF SHOOTING IN THE DARK.

WE COULD OVERSPEND WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO. WE COULD UNDERSPEND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MASTER PLAN.

I WILL PUT ON THE RECORD IN ORDER TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT IN ORDER THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.

I'M DOING MY VERY BEST TO PROTECT THE TAXPAYER IN THIS SITUATION, BUT I'M ALSO TRYING TO PROTECT THE COUNTY INVESTMENT, WHICH IS THE FROST BANK CENTER, THE FREEMAN COLISEUM, AND ALSO THE PROMISE THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO THE REDEVELOPMENT IN THAT EAST SIDE COMMUNITY. AND ALSO, TOO, THAT WE WOULD DO OUR VERY BEST SO THAT WE WOULD NOT IMPOSE THIS BURDEN ON THE HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY TAXES. AND SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE DO THE MASTER PLANNING, WE GET IT RIGHT AS TO WHAT THIS FROST BANK CENTER IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THE JOE FREEMAN COLISEUM IS GOING TO BE, WHAT CAN BE IMAGINED, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EAST SIDE AROUND THIS COUNTY INVESTMENT, THAT WE CAN REALLY BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST FOR THE EAST SIDE, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I'VE ALSO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE SPURS ARE A VALUABLE CORPORATE PARTNER CITIZEN IN THIS COMMUNITY. THEY GIVE BACK SO MUCH.

AND SO I WANT TO FIND A WIN WIN SOLUTION THAT WILL HELP PROTECT THE COUNTY, HELP DISPERSE, SUCCEED AS A BUSINESS. AND I'LL JUST CALL THEM OUT.

THEY NEED TO WIN ANOTHER CHAMPIONSHIP. SO LET'S GET LET'S GET GOING ON THAT ONE.

AND ALSO TO HOW WE WITH THE CITY CAN PARTNER UP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO AND WE'VE ALREADY PUT OUT WHAT OUR REVENUE IS NOW WE ARE PUTTING OUT THE EXPENSES AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUT OUT MORE INFORMATION.

AND I THINK, DERRICK, I WANT IT REAL CLEAR THAT WE HAVE BEEN WITH THESE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS STUDY.

WE WILL HAVE A MASTER PLAN TO BRING BACK TO THIS COURT, AND WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO VET IT AS WHAT WE'VE DONE TODAY, COLLEAGUES. WE WANT TO GET THE PUBLIC INPUT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, FOR TAKING THAT LEADERSHIP.

AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS HOPEFULLY CONVINCE THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE AN ELECTION ON THE COUNTY VENUE TAX, NOT ON WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW SPURS ARENA, BUT ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH OUR COUNTY VENUE TAX.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN ONE BIG STEP TODAY IN SHOWING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE COUNTY TAX DOLLARS, AND WE'RE NOT USING HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAX ON TOP OF THAT.

SO I WANT THE SUPPORT OF THIS COURT TO MOVE FORWARD.

I APPRECIATE THE REPORT. THIS WAS VERY CRUCIAL AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MUCH, MUCH MORE WORK TO DO.

DEREK, YOU AND YOUR CONSULTANTS WILL HAVE TO BE BACK AND TO GIVE US THAT MASTER PLAN.

SO THEN WE CAN PUT FACTS TO FIGURES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

ALL RIGHT. SO UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF MOU GRANTING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO, AS STATED WITHIN THE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. WELL, OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION.

NOW I WILL CALL UP AGENDA ITEM 102 A AND COMMISSIONER CALVERT HAS MADE A MOTION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

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SO I THINK THAT WAS A VALUABLE DISCUSSION ON THE THE FREEMAN COLISEUM AND THE FROST BANK CENTER.

AND I AGREE WITH YOUR CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THIS MASTER PLAN HAS TO TAKE PLACE. BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SOME, SOME COMMENTS AND, AND EXPLAIN KIND OF WHERE I STAND RIGHT NOW WITH THIS ITEM BEING THE MOU BEFORE US TODAY. SO FIRST OF ALL I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COURT AGAIN THAT WE LOVE THE SPURS. THE SPURS ARE A GREAT MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY THEY GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WANT THE, THE SPURS TO STAY IN SAN ANTONIO IN PERPETUITY.

TO THAT END, I'LL JUST AGAIN REITERATE THAT I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON A PARK DESIGN IN THE VICINITY OF THE THE ROCK, THE PRACTICE FACILITY AND PRECINCT THREE.

BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT VENUE AND IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO, TO GATHER.

I HOPE IF IF FOLKS HAVEN'T BEEN THAT, THEY WOULD GO VISIT THE ROCK THE PLAZA.

YOU CAN GO ONLINE. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE EVENTS AND VENUES THAT THEY HAVE UP THERE.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MY OFFICE IS CONTINUING TO PARTNER WITH THE THE SPURS AND TRY TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

NOW MY COMMENTS HERE ARE DESIGNED TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE.

THEY MAY BE TAKEN AS NEGATIVE, BUT THEY'RE REALLY DESIGNED TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE BECAUSE I'VE DONE A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE ON ON THIS ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S MEETING WITH, WITH THE SPURS AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES MULTIPLE TIMES, WHETHER IT'S MEETING WITH CHAMBERS, WHETHER IT'S MEETING WITH THE ARENA'S BOARD, MEETING WITH THE RODEO, GOING TO THE FORT WORTH RODEO AND SEEING WHAT'S POSSIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO POTENTIAL EXPANSION.

WE WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS ISSUE. AND SO I WANT THESE COMMENTS TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE AS WE THINK THROUGH WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.

BUT I'LL JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS MOU TODAY, I DON'T SEE THE VALUE HERE.

TO ME IT SEEMS PREMATURE AND IT SEEMS REALLY HIGH LEVEL AND AND SOFT AND IT DOESN'T REALLY ADVANCE THE PROJECT NEGOTIATIONS.

YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY, AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT IN ANY WAY A REFLECTION ON, ON THIS COURT.

YOU KNOW, WE AGREE TO TO PROVIDE THE JUDGE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO AUTHORIZE THE JUDGE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE GOING FORWARD.

AND I THINK HE'S HE'S DOING THAT AND DOING THAT TO TO THE BEST OF HIS ABILITY.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HIM ON THAT.

BUT THE THE FACT THAT THAT WAS ONLY THREE WEEKS AGO, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVEN'T MADE MUCH PROGRESS WHEN IT COMES TO NEGOTIATION AT THIS POINT WITH THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS TRILATERAL AGREEMENT.

TO THAT END, OBVIOUSLY THERE WASN'T AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY KIND OF REAL FEEDBACK ON THIS MOU OR TO INCORPORATE ANY ADDITIONAL ASKS THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY MEMBERS OF THE COURT MAY HAVE AND ALSO JUST WOULD MENTION THAT WITHIN THIS MOU TODAY, AS MUCH AS I'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE A ROLE IN PROJECT MARVEL, PROJECT MARVEL AND ALL OF THE PROJECTS WITHIN PROJECT MARVEL ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE MOU.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD ULTIMATELY STRIP OUT AS WE GO FORWARD AND MAKE CLEAR THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE INVESTMENTS THE COUNTY COULD MAKE AND IT SPURS ARENA VERSUS THE REST OF THE CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED AS PART OF PROJECT MARVEL.

I WANT TO JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I RESERVE JUDGMENT ON A FINAL DEAL.

WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO BEFORE WE GET THERE.

AND I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN PUSHING BACK TODAY, WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK, AND WE NEED TO GET TO THE DETAILS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

I THINK THAT WE NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY. WE NEED MORE COMMUNICATION AND WE NEED MORE TRUST, AND WE REALLY HAVE TO START PUTTING SOME CARDS ON THE TABLE.

I WILL SAY, I THINK THAT THE COUNTY HAS HAS STEPPED FORWARD ON IN THIS REGARD.

AND BETWEEN OUR PRESENTATION ON THE POTENTIAL REVENUE OR THE POTENTIAL BONDS THAT COULD BE CAPTURED FROM THE VENUE TAX AT THAT 400 MILLION ROUGHLY, AND THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD TODAY AROUND THE EXPENSES TO INVEST IN THE FROST BANK CENTER AND THE FREEMAN COLISEUM GOING FORWARD, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY HAS THE POTENTIAL OF A 200 TO $300 MILLION INVESTMENT.

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I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AS A RANGE OF NUMBERS.

BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT FROM FROM ANYONE ELSE YET IN TERMS OF, OF THE CITY AND OUR OTHER PLAYERS IN THIS NEGOTIATION. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO START PUTTING CARDS ON THE TABLE AND, AND GET TO A LEVEL OF DETAIL SOON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AN ELECTION, WE CAN'T CALL FOR AN ELECTION ON THIS VENUE TAX PROPOSAL WITHOUT A CLEARLY DEFINED DEAL IN SIGHT.

RIGHT? WE CAN'T PUT LANGUAGE ON THE BALLOT AROUND WHAT WOULD BE CONTRIBUTED TO A PROJECT WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE FINANCING FOR THAT PROJECT LOOKS LIKE. WE STILL HAVE SOME DUE DILIGENCE TO DO ON THE ACCOUNTING SIDE, AND I THINK WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

AND WE WILL DO THAT. BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE GET SERIOUS AND IT'S TIME TO PUT CARDS ON THE TABLE.

BECAUSE I AGREE WITH, WITH JEFF WEBSTER AND HIS COMMENTS THIS MORNING.

WE NEED MORE DETAIL. I WOULD JUST COUNTER WITH WITH HIS COMMENTS ABOUT LIKE, WELL, THIS IS PROVIDING A FISHING LICENSE. I WOULD SAY THAT I'VE ALREADY PROVIDED THE FISHING LICENSE WITH AN AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE.

SO AT THIS POINT, I JUST WANT TO GO FORWARD AND GET MORE DETAIL, GET IT ON THE TABLE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GO BACK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, START HAVING THOSE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS, START EXPLORING WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THE REALITY IS JULY IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. I MEAN, WE ALREADY JUST HEARD THAT THAT A MASTER PLAN COULD TAKE SIX MONTHS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPEDITE THAT JUST IN ORDER TO GET SOME INFORMATION BACK SO WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT INVESTMENTS HAVE TO BE MADE AT THE FROST BANK CENTER AT THE FREEMAN ON THE RODEO GROUNDS AS AS PART OF THAT VENUE TAX ALLOCATION. SO I HOPE WE CAN GET TO A BALANCED PROPOSAL THAT INCORPORATES FEEDBACK AND THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK TO VOTERS AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

BUT AT THIS POINT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS REGARDING THE MOU AND WHY I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. ANY OPPOSED? NO. ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 103. DISCUSSION.

APPROPRIATE ACTION. RELATED TO GRANTING AN EXCEPTION TO ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1.2.

TO AUTHORIZE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING LATE FILED AGENDA.

ITEM 103 A IF I MAY, I'D ASK PERMISSION FROM THE COURT TO PULL UP 104 DISCUSSION APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO GRANTING AN EXCEPTION.

[104. Discussion and appropriate action related to granting an exception to Administrative Policy 1.2 to authorize the consideration of the following late filed Agenda Item #104a.]

ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1.2 TO AUTHORIZE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING LATE FILED AGENDA.

ITEM 104 A AND ASK THAT I HAVE A JOINT MOTION TO ALLOW THE CONSIDERATION OF THOSE TWO AGENDA ITEMS. IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

WE WILL NOW TAKE UP. OH, LET ME VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

WE WILL NOW TAKE UP 103. A APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE COUNTY STAFF TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR THE COUNTIES FOR HOUSING SOLUTIONS.

[103. Discussion and appropriate action related to granting an exception to Administrative Policy 1.2 to authorize the consideration of the following late filed Agenda Item #103a.]

C FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, A FREE INITIATIVE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.

NACO TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ON THE UNDERUTILIZED PUBLIC LAND.

MR.. ROBERT. REINA. DAVID. MARQUEZ. DAVID. ROBERT.

GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE SAKAI AND COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ROBERT REINA WITH THE BEXAR COUNTY ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, SO I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF TODAY, BUT I'M HERE TO SEEK AUTHORIZATION FOR BEXAR COUNTY TO APPLY FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES COUNTIES FOR HOUSING SOLUTIONS PROGRAM, WHICH IS A FREE 12 WEEK TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE SPRINT THAT WILL HELP THE COUNTY EVALUATE AND MAXIMIZE UNDERUTILIZED PUBLIC LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS PROGRAM ALIGNS WITH TEXAS SENATE BILL 583, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE COUNTY TO COMPILE AN ANNUAL INVENTORY OF COUNTY OWNED LAND SUITABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE COUNTIES FOR HOUSING SOLUTIONS PROGRAM WILL RUN FROM APRIL 1ST THROUGH JUNE 17TH, 2025 AND WILL PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON LAND EVALUATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS TO ENSURE THE COUNTY MAKES THE MOST OF UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTIES. THE APPLICATION DEADLINE IS FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH, AND IF SELECTED,

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THIS PROGRAM WILL HELP THE COUNTY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF TEXAS SENATE BILL 583 AND STRATEGICALLY EXPLORE HOW PUBLIC LAND CAN BE USED TO SUPPORT HOUSING OPTIONS THAT ALIGN WITH LOCAL NEEDS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE. APPROVAL.

MOTION. COMMISSIONER. CALVERT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MR. REINA. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW TAKE UP 100 FOR A PRESENTATION DISCUSSION REGARDING THE EXPANSION OF THE SAPPHIRE GROVE SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. MR. LIAO. LIAO.

MR. LIAO, WALK A LITTLE FASTER, PLEASE. COME ON.

COME ON. ARE YOU GUYS DOING. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN HERE ALL DAY. WE'LL JUST SEE A FEW MORE SECONDS.

DON'T GO THERE. LET'S GO BREAK FOR DINNER. OKAY.

SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SAPPHIRE GROVE SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT EXPANSION.

THIS IS NOT CREATION. THIS IS AN EXPANSION. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN THE CREATION.

OBVIOUSLY, THE LANDOWNER HAS TO SUBMIT A PETITION.

BY STATUTE, CONSENT MUST BE PROVIDED BY AND THAT CONSENT IS IN RESOLUTION FORM BY THE COUNTY, WHO OBVIOUSLY CREATED THE PID AND THE CITY IF THE PID IS WITHIN THE CITY'S ETJ.

THIS PID IS WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S ETJ, AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROVIDED THEIR CONSENT ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024. SO WE'RE ALL GOOD TO GO THERE. AFTER THAT, THE PID TAKES THE FINAL ACTION.

IT'S INCUMBENT ON INCUMBENT ON THEM TO EXECUTE THE ACTIONS THROUGH WATER CODE.

CHAPTER 49, SUBCHAPTER J AND ALL JURISDICTIONAL POWERS OF THE PID TAXATION AND CONSTRUCTION AUTHORITY PASSES ON TO THE ANNEXED AREA.

IN THIS CASE, THE SAPPHIRE GROVE PID HAS ONLY AD VALOREM TAXATION POWERS.

LOCATIONS IN PRECINCT FOUR. CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, ETJ.

IT'S OUTSIDE LOOP 1604. IT'S THE 28 YEAR TERM, WHICH IS THE REMAINDER OF SAPPHIRE GROVE.

IT'S 38 ACRES, AND WE RECEIVE $9 IN TAX REVENUE FOR BEXAR COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND.

LAND USE WILL BE 185 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AT 215,000 PER YEAR.

THERE WILL BE ALMOST 20 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE. YOU SEE THE GREEN THERE AND THAT IS A CREEK BED.

SO IT'S WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN. SO ALL THAT IS GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE.

AND NO MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON THIS SECTION, NO COMMERCIAL ACREAGE, NORMAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND A SEWER LINE EXTENSION TO THE LIFT STATION LOCATED IN THE NORTHERN SECTION OF THAT EXPANSION. DEVELOPMENT IS $6.5 MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

ALMOST 40 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE OR TAX VALUE WILL BE CREATED BY 2029.

THE REVENUES ARE THERE OVER JUST OVER 25 YEARS, AND BEXAR COUNTY GENERAL FUND WILL RECEIVE 2.7 MILLION.

MOVE. APPROVAL OF THE EXPANSION. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 105 DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO PENDING LITIGATION OR SETTLEMENT OFFER IN THE MATTER OF PRUNEDA VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY,

[105. Discussion and appropriate action related to pending litigation or a settlement offer in the matter of Augustin Pruneda, et al v. Bexar County, Texas, a class-action lawsuit under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) related to unpaid overtime accrued from years 2020 to present.]

TEXAS, A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT UNDER THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT.

MR. ROBERSON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO PUT ON THE RECORD? YES, JUDGE. THANK YOU. DURING EXECUTIVE, THE COURT CONSIDERED THE SETTLEMENT OFFER IN THE MATTER OF AUGUSTINE PRUNEDA VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY, A CLASS ACTION SUIT ARISING UNDER THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT FOR UNPAID OVERTIME IN THE AMOUNT OF AND $0.62, WHICH COVERS YEARS 2020 TO PRESENT. TO RATIFY THE AFOREMENTIONED SETTLEMENT NUMBER.

SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SETTLEMENT MOTION SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU. JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN TODAY IN THE NAMES OF THE FOLLOWING.

PRECINCT TWO CONSTITUENTS. FRANK MENDOZA, SENIOR LUIS RAMIREZ GARZA, SENIOR ALBERTO SANCHEZ, GILBERT MASUKA, JERRY AVALOS, AND REBECA MARTINEZ.

COMMISSIONER MOODY. I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF BURKE COUNTY DEPUTY DAVID SANTOS JR.

AND, JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ADJOURN IN HONOR OF MARGUERITE GONZALEZ.

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I'D LIKE TO MOVE IN BEHALF OF KATHLEEN LESLIE CURRIE, A SKILLED ATTORNEY AD LITEM CHILDREN'S ATTORNEY WHO PRACTICE FAMILY LAW IN CHILDREN'S COURT FOR OVER 20 YEARS. DIANA EL MONTEJANO, POET, ENGLISH TEACHER, LONG TIME EDUCATOR WHO WAS A LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR THE LATE SENATOR JOE BRUNO AND WILLIAM BUEHLER, A JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE AND RETIRED COLONEL PRACTITIONER OF LAW FOR MORE THAN 65 YEARS.

I FORGOT ONE. MR. RODRIGUEZ, I KNOW THIS WEEK THAT JUDGE TINA TORRES MOTHER PASSED AWAY.