* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL RIGHT. [00:00:03] GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE BUDGET C COUNT, BE BE COUNTY COMMISSION'S, COURT BUDGET, WORK SESSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2024. UH, TODAY'S BUDGET WORK SESSION. WE'LL DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, [1. Communications, including citizens who signed the register to speak, and reports.] I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. UH, Y'ALL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. FIRST IS JUDGE ROSIE SPIEL GONZALEZ. JUDGE GONZALEZ, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. I SAW HER. SHE'S HERE. OH, WAIT, SHE LEFT FOR, FOR COURT. IS SHE, CAN SOMEBODY COURT SECURITY? LET JUDGE GONZALEZ KNOW SHE'S UP. JUDGES LEFT FOR COURT. SHE'S NOT HERE. SHE WHAT? SHE WENT FOR COURT. SO SHE'S NOT HERE. SHE HAS DOCK. OH, SHE HAD A DOCK. OKAY. DID SHE HAVE A REP? SHE HAS A REP THAT WAS GONNA SPEAK. WELL, HOLD ON. I GOT, HOLD ON. I, I'M DOING CITIZENS BE HEARD. SEAN SULLIVAN, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE HERE. IN REGARDS TO THE REJO COURT, WHICH REFLECTS GOOD MORNING COURT. UH, MY NAME'S SEAN SULLIVAN. UM, I AM HERE TO, UH, REQUEST FOR FURTHER FUNDING FOR REJO COURT. UH, MY BACKSTORY, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I WAS LESS THAN 90 POUNDS, ALMOST HOMELESS. UH, NOW I HAVE A CAREER. I AM COMPLETELY SOBER. UM, AND I JUST WANNA ADVOCATE FOR REJO COURT FOR THE GOOD THAT THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE ME BACK, UH, TO BE A FUN, A FUNCTIONING CITIZEN AGAIN, AND NOT SOMEBODY WHO IS JUST WITHERING AWAY. UH, THEY HAVE PROVIDED MENTAL HEALTH FOR ME. I NEVER GOT MENTAL HEALTH. I NEVER GOT ACTUAL HEALTHCARE. UM, AND ALMOST ALL MY LIFE, I HAD IT IN CHILDHOOD, BUT NOT IN MY ADULT CAREER. UM, JUDGE ROSIE IS VERY COMPASSIONATE AND AT A TIME WHERE I DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO BELIEVED IN ME. JUDGE ROSIE DID BELIEVE IN ME, AND I KNOW THAT I'M NOT JUST ADVOCATING FOR RELE HILL COURT. I'M ADVOCATING FOR ALL, UH, SPECIALTY COURTS. AND I HAVE BEEN TO MULTIPLE, UH, OF THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE SUPPORTIVE OF FUNDING, UH, SPECIALTY COURTS. SO I'M JUST HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR FURTHER FUNDING, UH, SO OTHER INDIVIDUALS LIKE MYSELF HAVE THE OPTION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT IN LIFE. UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. SULLIVAN. MARK WADI. CONSTABLE WADI. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. UH, OF COURSE, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE RE RECOMMENDATIONS ON CONSTABLE FUNDING AND FURTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP. I WANTED TO THANK THE COURT FOR ITS PARTICIPATION AND ITS DIRECTION IN DEALING WITH CONSTABLE MATTERS AND COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL. I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE MADE A BIG EFFORT TOWARDS BEING OPEN AND LISTENING TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY AND THE INFORMATION, WHICH WOULD MAKE SENSE BECAUSE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO EACH PRECINCT, THE CONSTABLE OR THE SHERIFF, OR THE JP, THEY'RE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THOSE AREAS. WHEN WE MAKE OUR PROPOSALS TO BUDGET, THOUGH, THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE IMPARTIAL LIST DISAPPEARS. THE COURT'S INTENT IS THAT, THAT THAT INFORMATION BE REVIEWED AND CHECKED. BUT WHEN WE RECEIVE IT BACK FROM BUDGET, WE, WE SPEND WEEKS AND MONTHS PREPARING THESE BUDGET REQUESTS. WE GET A TWO LINE RESPONSE BACK FROM THEM SAYING, UH, THIS HAS NOT BEEN CONSIDERED, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH X AND Y. EVEN THOUGH X AND Y WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PROPOSED, WE WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO HAVE A FAIR EVALUATION OF WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED. UH, WE HAVE GOOD INFORMATION AND DATA TO BACK UP EACH OF OUR REQUESTS. A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE ATTACHED TO IT SO THAT IT'LL BE SUSTAINABLE IN THE FUTURE. AND YET WE GET NO FEEDBACK AT ALL FROM BUDGET OTHER THAN IT WASN'T CONSIDERED, WHICH I THINK SHORT CIRCUITS WHAT THE COURT WAS IN TRYING TO DO AS FAR AS BRINGING BACK CONTROL TOWARDS THESE LOCAL OFFICIALS WHO BEST KNOW THEIR PRECINCTS AND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH BEING PART OF BEXAR COUNTY'S CORPORATE CITIZENS. UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS, OF COURSE, A CLIENTELE OF EACH CONSTABLE. AND FOR EACH OF YOU, WE ALL SHARE THE SAME CONSTITUENTS. SO WE HAVE THE SAME VIEW AND THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE, BUT WE DON'T GET THE FAIR BREAK, AND WE DON'T GET THE INFORMATION FROM BUDGET. THEY DON'T CRITICIZE OUR RESPONSES. THEY DON'T TELL US, HERE'S WHERE YOUR PROPOSAL IS WEAK, OR IF YOUR DATA WAS FLAWED, UH, SO THAT WE COULD MAKE A RESPONSE. UH, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO YOU AND PROVIDE INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GET MORE INFORMATION THAN WE DO, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE OF A PARTICIPANT TO SEE WHAT'S BEING GOING ON AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTELLIGENTLY RESPOND [00:05:01] TO ANYTHING THAT BUDGET HAS TO SAY ABOUT WHAT THEIR VIEW OF A CONSTABLE'S OFFICE OR A JP OR A SHERIFF'S OFFICE SHOULD FUNCTION AS. UH, IT'S A REQUEST JUST FOR COMMON RESPECT. AND ALSO IT'S COMMON SENSE WHEN DOING BUDGETING. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE CONSTABLES ARE PRETTY MUCH THAT WE STILL ARE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY FIVE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS IN EACH CONSTABLE'S OFFICE BECAUSE OF THE WORKLOADS. WE HAVE OTHER FACTORS BESIDES THE WORKLOADS THAT SHOULD BE CALCULATED IN THERE. FOR EXAMPLE, TRANSIT TIME. UH, WE DO ABOUT 36% OF OUR TIME TRAVELING, WHICH MEANS BASICALLY NEXT YEAR, EVEN IF WE HAVE NO INCREASE IN COURT ORDERS, IT'S GONNA TAKE US MORE STAFF TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING BECAUSE AN ADDITIONAL 200 OR 150,000 PEOPLE WILL BE HERE. OUR ROADWAYS AND OUR TRAVEL TIMES WILL BE INCREASED. BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW THAT IF YOU NEVER GET TO SEE OUR PROPOSALS. I'M USED TO PROVIDING FACTS, FIGURES, JUDGE FOR DECISION MAKERS. COMMENTS. SMART. WRAP IT UP, CONSTABLE. YES, SIR. SO, I, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE LOOK AT AT LEAST THESE FIVE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS I THINK WE HAVE FOR SWORN OFFICERS AND ONE CLERK POSITION, WHICH THEY'RE INVALUABLE. AND THAT THE, AND GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT TRANSPARENCY, THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY GET THAT FEEDBACK AND WHAT WE PRODUCE WOULD BE EVALUATED FAIRLY AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CONSTABLE CONSTABLE RU TO HEATHER. NO. SAYS WILL BE HEARD. I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE SAME, UH, THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION THAT WE'RE HAVING. UH, WE CAME, UH, AS, AS A GROUP, ALL FOUR CONSTABLES ASKING FOR THE SAME THING. AND IF WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING, WE WOULDN'T NEED IT. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DO NEED, BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE OF WORKLOAD, AND IT'S NOT GONNA DECREASE. IT'S JUST GONNA KEEP ON PICKING UP BECAUSE, UH, I THINK, UH, THE COURTS ARE OPENED UP QUITE A BIT. SO THE ACTIVITY IS GONNA BE THERE. AND, UH, AND MY QUESTION ONCE AGAIN, UH, POSITION THAT SOMEBODY, UH, DESCRIBES THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND TO CALL A, A DEPUTY, A LEAD DEPUTY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I I'VE NEVER SEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, DUTIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OF THIS SUCH PERSON. SO THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT WE WERE ASKING, BUT THE TRANSPARENCY, THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, IF WE REALLY DIDN'T NEED THESE POSITIONS, WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING. UH, WE ALL GOT TOGETHER. WE WERE ASKING FOR MORE STAFF, BUT WE REDUCED IT TO FIVE. AND I THINK THAT'S A FEASIBLE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS. BUT FOR WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING US TO DO ON A DAILY BASIS, UM, A A COMPARISON THAT I DO ALL THE TIME IS AT THIS COURTROOM, THE PROTECTION IS THE FRONT LINE AT THE DOOR. SO YOU HAVE TWO COURT MONITORS AND A DEPUTY SHERIFF. WELL, WE WOULD LIKE THE SAME THING TO PROTECT THE JP COURTS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE A COURT MONITOR AND NO DEPUTY SH UH, CONSTABLE IN THE FRONT. SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR MY OFFICE, 'CAUSE WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE BIBLIO TECH. WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE TAX ASSESSOR, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS CALLING UPON US TO ACT ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN BAD THINGS THAT HAPPEN OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING AROUND THERE, THEY WANT A REPORT AND ALL THAT. BUT, UH, PLEASE, UH, CONSIDER THIS, UH, WE REALLY NEED THESE POSITIONS. UH, NO ONE'S HAS GOTTEN NOTIFIED. AND I WOULD ASK THE COURT, HAVE ANY OF YOU GOTTEN NOTIFIED BY THE BUDGET OFFICE ON THIS MATTER? SO I DON'T THINK NONE OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN NOTIFIED OF WHAT IS GONNA BE PROPOSED. IF YOU DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW. SO IT'S A, IT'S A BIG FACTOR, YOU KNOW, SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OR HOW WE CAN GET BETTER COMMUNIC, THE TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CONSTABLE, UH, ROSE HILL. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE SHAKI COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ROSE HILL, PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL, NICE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION, AND OF THE D TWO PRESIDENTS ROUND TABLE, UH, CONSISTING OF 30 NEIGHBORHOODS IN DISTRICT TWO, UM, AND ALSO PRECINCT FOUR, WE PART OF PRECINCT FOUR. TODAY [00:10:01] I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. I'M NOT SURE THAT IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF, BUT, UM, I, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THAT $400,000 THAT Y'ALL TAKING TO REGISTER VOTERS. AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHY RIGHT NOW IN OUR DISTRICT TWO ARE THE SENIORS. WE ARE BEING DEPRIVED, UH, BEING NEGLECTED, BEING DENIED THE RIGHT TO OUR ROOM, VOTING ROOM, WHERE WE'VE ALWAYS VOTED IN THE CLAUDE BLACK CENTER. UH, OUR DISTRICT TWO, UH, COUNCILMAN IS, UH, THINKING HE WANTS TO DO CONSTRUCTION THERE AND MOVE US ALL THE WAY DOWN THE HALL TO THE END OF THE HALL, MAKING IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR MYSELF AND OTHER SENIORS THAT ARE DISABLED TO WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE. UM, AND THAT'S WHY I'M IN OPPOSITION, BECAUSE IF Y'ALL TRYING TO REGISTER VOTERS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION, UH, UH, THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. AND HERE, UH, IF Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DO THAT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A COUNCILMAN THAT IS NOT EVEN GONNA LET PEOPLE VOTE AND TAKE AWAY OUR VOTING RIGHTS, WHAT GOOD IS YOU PUTTING THAT TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN THAT AREA? UM, I JUST WANTED TO BE Y'ALL AWARE OF THAT, BECAUSE WHEN THIS HAPPENED, UH, I SENT A LETTER TO, UH, JACKIE CALLAHAN, UH, AT THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, AND I ASKED HER, PLEASE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION NOT TO LET THEM MOVE US. AND THEY'RE BLAMING IT ON THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE ELECTIONS, IT'S THE, THE ELECTIONS OFFICERS SAYING IT'S OKAY AND THEY'RE GONNA MOVE, AND THIS AND THE OTHER. WELL, WE CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION. WE SAID, OKAY, DO YOUR CONSTRUCTION, BUT STILL ALLOW A CORNER OF THAT ROOM FOR SENIOR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO WALK IN THERE, DRIVE YOUR CAR IN THERE, UH, VOTE AND WHAT HAVE YOU NOT. BUT THEY'RE SAYING, OH, NO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. UH, THE ELECTIONS OFFICE IS GONNA HAVE ALL THESE EXTRA PEOPLE OUT HERE WITH THE ELECTION THINGS, UH, TO, FOR THE PEOPLE TO GO AND VOTE. BUT THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I WANNA BRING THIS TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, IS THAT WE ARE SO USED TO GETTING OFF THE CAR, WALKING 10 OR 15 FEET, GETTING OUT TO VOTE. THAT'S THE THING THAT MAKES US EXCITED AS SENIORS. AND TO BE TAKING THAT AWAY FROM US IS UNACCEPTABLE. I BROUGHT IT TO YOU, COMMISSIONER CALVERT, I'VE TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT. AND, UH, WE ARE VERY, VERY DISPLEASED ABOUT THAT. SO, I, I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT THE BEAR, MAYBE Y'ALL MIGHT NOT KNOW, BUT VOTING IS TO US, IS A PRIVILEGE BECAUSE WE'RE SENIORS, WE'RE THE LEGACY OF WHERE IT STARTED AT, AND THAT ROOM IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. SO I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT I KNOW THAT, UM, UM, AS TAXPAYERS, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO, TO SAY WHERE OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE GOING TO. AND SO THEREFORE, THAT REASON, UM, NOT SAYING THAT WHAT Y'ALL DOING IS RIGHT OR WRONG ABOUT THE 400,000, BUT WHEN I SEE 400,000 OF MY TAXPAYER DOLLARS BEING TO GO REGISTER VOTERS, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING AWAY THAT PRIVILEGE TO OUR RIGHT, TO THAT ROOM TO VOTE, THEN I THINK THAT OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE GONNA BE WRONG. I KNOW THAT BEAR COUNTY AND DISTRICT AND, UH, THE CITY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES, AND I HOPE THAT Y'ALL WILL DO BETTER THAN THE CITY IS DOING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. RUTH. MERRIAM, UH, ARIA. MIRIAM ARIA, I THINK, IS IT ARIA OR NICE THERE YOU'RE, HI, GOOD MORNING. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT SPECIALTY COURTS, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TOJO COURT. UM, SO FOR US TO GET SPECIAL, UM, TO GET MORE FUNDINGS, UH, THESE PROGRAMS OFFER CRUCIAL SUPPORT, INCLUDING THERAPY, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND ASSISTANCE. THEY HELP CREATE A SAFE SPACE IN COMMUNITY FOR FAMILIES WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE. SINCE JOINING THE LEJO COURT PROGRAM IN JANUARY, I'VE BEEN AMAZED BY THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT THE TEAM HAS PROVIDED. JUDGE, JUDGE ROSIE ENVISIONED THIS PROGRAM, AND OVER THE YEARS, HA BEEN, HAS HAPPENED TO BE A SUCCESS. SHE AND HER TEAM HAVE WORKED HARD, AT LEAST TO ENSURE THE PROGRAM IS CARRIED OUT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS PARTICIPANTS TO REENTER SOCIETY AS IMPROVED MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES. THOUGH I KNOW THIS JOURNEY HASN'T BEEN EASY, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS PROGRAM. INCREASED FUNDING FOR SPECIALTY COURTS MEANS GIVING ANOTHER PARENT THE CHANCE TO BE PRESENT IN THEIR CHILD'S LIFE, OR ALLOWING A SIBLING OR FRIEND TO REUNITE WITH THEIR FAMILY. AND THEN ITS LIKE, I'M MORE AWARE OF THE IMPACT OF GENERATIONAL TRAUMA, OF LIVED IT, BUT I'M ALSO COMMITTED TO BEING PART OF THE CHANGE PROGRAMS LIKE THESE PROVIDE THE TOOLS WE DIDN'T HAVE GROWING UP WITH THE RIGHT SUPPORT SPECIALTY COURTS LIKE REFLE, WHO WILL CONTINUE TO DRIVE AND STRAIGHTENING OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, CYNTHIA GARCIA. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. AND, AND GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL. UM, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, BACK UP WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN MENTIONING WITH THE REJO COURT. UH, MY NAME IS CYNTHIA GARCIA AND I'M ACTUALLY A TEAM MEMBER OF THE COURT. I'M ONE OF THE EDUCATORS, SO I GET TO SEE YOU FIRSTHAND. THE IMPACT, THE POSITIVE IMPACT IT MAKES ON OUR PARTICIPANTS HERE, THE LIFE CHANGING IMPACT AND, UM, THE HEALING OF THE TRAUMA. THERE'S SO MUCH TRAUMA IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR FIRST TIME OFFENDERS THAT COME IN, YOU KNOW, THEY GET TO HEAL THAT GENERATIONAL TRAUMA AND BECOME PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS AND NOT RE-OFFEND, WHICH ENDS UP IN TURN, YOU KNOW, FILLING [00:15:01] UP TO JAILS. BUT I SEE MORE FUNDING WOULD REACH MORE PEOPLE, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO, TO HELP HEAL OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, THE MURDER SUICIDES AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE VIOLENCE THAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN FAMILIES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND RELATIONSHIPS. SO, UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE YOU JUDGE FOR, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, AND KEEP THE FUNDING COMING, BUT I SEE AN INCREASE WOULD REALLY REACH MORE AND, AND EXPAND OUT INTO, YOU KNOW, FURTHER PROGRAMS ATTACHED TO THE REJO COURT. BUT, UM, I THANK YOU AND, AND I, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA TAKE [2. Discussion and appropriate action regarding approval of Bexar County's 2025 calendar year required contribution rate, basic benefits, provisions, and any plan changes for the County's Retirement Plan with Texas County and District Retirement System (TCDRS). (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (LeoCaldera)] THE DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF BEXAR COUNTY'S 2 20 25 CALENDAR YEAR REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION RATE, BASIC BENEFITS, PROVISIONS, AND ANY PLAN CHANGES TO THE COUNTY'S RETIREMENT PLAN WITH TEXAS COUNTY DISTRICT RETIREMENT SYSTEM, T-C-D-R-S, MR. LEO CARDO, YOU HAVE A FLOOR. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. AND, AND IF I RE LET ME, IF I COULD SAY THIS. SURE. I THINK FOR THE RECORD, AT THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING, WE HAD A, A, A START OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE T-C-D-R-S PLAN. UH, AFTER HEARING INPUT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS WHO EXPRESS A DESIRE TO PROVIDE A COLA INCREASE TO, TO OUR RETIREES, I BELIEVE OUR COUNTY AUDITOR TODAY HAS GATHERED ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM THE COURT AND WILL PRE BE PRESENTING ON THIS ITEM. AND THEN LEO, UH, I DO WANT YOU TO MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM AS COUNTY AUDITOR OKAY. AS TO WHAT WE SHOULD DO. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL ALLOW THE COURT TO MAKE A VOTE. ALRIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT, JUDGE. UM, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME'S LEO CORDERA COUNTY AUDITOR, AND WITH ME, I HAVE DIANA GEARY, SHE'S OUR PAYROLL AND RETIREMENT ADMINISTRATOR. UM, TO YOUR POINT, JUDGE, UH, AS A RECAP, YOU KNOW, I WENT OVER SOME OF THE INFORMATION AND PLANS, UM, AS MY ROLE IS COUNTY AUDITOR, UH, I FEEL I DO, YOU KNOW, NEED TO OFFER RECOMMENDATION. MY RECOMMENDATION, UH, LAST WEEK IS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO FORGO FOR COMMISSIONERS TO FORGO A, UH, COLA AT THIS TIME. AND MY REASON BEHIND THAT, DUE TO OUR FORECASTED REVENUE DECLINE, UM, INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES, AND IMPORTANTLY, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, OUR TRIPLE BOND RATING AND THE EFFECTS THAT COLA COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ON THAT. SO THAT BEING SAID, I STILL STAND BY MY RECOMMENDATION. HOWEVER, UH, I DO FEEL, AS PART OF MY ROLE IS TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UM, AND BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S IN, IN YOUR, YOUR HANDS, UH, IN REGARDS TO APPROVAL. SO THAT, UH, AND I'M HERE, WE'RE HERE, UH, TO HELP YOU MAKE A SOUND DECISION ON THAT. SO, THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME THINGS, UH, JUDGE, AND REGARDING THE RETIREMENT, WELL LET, RETIREMENT, LET ME LET, IF I MAY, LEE, I, I SURE CUT TO THE CHASE, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE, I HOPE THE COMMISSIONER'S GOT IT. I KNOW, I BELIEVE IT WENT OUT ON FRIDAY POSITION THAT I AM TAKING FOR TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM. UH, IN REGARDS TO AND LELEA, I'M GONNA LET YOU CONTINUE TO PRESENT WHATEVER INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY ALLOW THE COURT, THE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. UH, I AM TAKING A STANCE TODAY THAT I SUPPORT A 20% CONSUMER PRICE INDEX BASED COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. THIS WILL COMPLIMENT THE PREVIOUS 5% FLAT RATE COLA THAT TOOK EFFECT FOR THE RETIREES IN 2023. THE CPI BACK COLA WILL ESPECIALLY BENEFIT OUR RETIREES WHO'VE HAD THEIR PURCHASING POWER MOST, IN FACT, IMPACTED BY INFLATION AS THE ACTUARIAL CALCULATION WILL LOOK AT THEIR DATE OF RETIREMENT AND THE IMPACT OF INFLATION SINCE THEN, WHILE FACTORING IN ACTIONS THE COUNTY HAS TAKEN TO INCLUDE THE RECENT 5% FLAT RATE INCREASE. WHAT THAT SIMPLY MEANS IS, AS I, AS, UH, MR. CARDERA HAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, A 5% FLAT RATE OR ANY FLAT RATE DOES NOT TAKE, DOES NOT TAKE IN CONSIDERATION A RECENT RETIREE TO A RETIREE THAT'S BEEN LONGSTANDING. THEY GET THE SAME INCREASE AS IT AS SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN ON THE, ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM FOR 20, 30 PLUS YEARS. AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WHAT IT WOULD, THIS, THAT GOING TO A 20 PERCENTAGE OF CPI WOULD HELP ADJUST THAT AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER FLAT RATE. ALSO TOO, I THINK LEO WOULD, UH, MR. CTA WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT, UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN ACCOUNTING, UH, RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD, UH, IMPOSE, UH, SOME LIABILITY PERHAPS TO OUR CREDIT RATING. UH, IF WE CONTINUE TO DO AN INCREASE EVERY YEAR, THAT THERE [00:20:01] HAS TO BE AT SOME POINT A PAUSE IN A ANNUAL INCREASE. SO WE ARE TAKING A INC PROPOSED INCREASE THAT I'M SUPPORTING, AND I THINK LEO, UH, YOU WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THAT FITS IN WITHIN OUR BUDGET AND WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE. ALSO, TOO, THAT IT, THIS WILL NOT AFFECT ANY POSSIBLE CREDIT RATING OR IMPOSE ANY FURTHER FIDUCIARY FUNDING LIMITS AS, OR FUNDING, UH, MINIMUMS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY FLAT RATE. SO THIS PROPOSED INCREASE COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NOT INCREASED HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS OF COPAYS FOR THE FIFTH STRAIGHT YEAR IN A ROW DEMONSTRATES OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR RETIREES. SO WITH THAT, UH, MR. CARRERA, WHY DON'T YOU CONTINUE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN I WILL PASS TO THE COURT FOR THEIR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OKAY, THANK YOU, JUDGE. IF I CAN GET THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION UP PLEASE. THANK YOU. HERE ON THIS, UH, INITIAL SLIDE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS JUST KIND OF A RECAP. UH, OUR CURRENT BENEFITS 7% COMPOUNDED INTEREST ANNUALLY, 2% MATCH AT RETIREMENT AND LIFETIME ANNUITY. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S VERY ROBUST. WE'RE BLESSED PLAN THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, AS JUDGE AKA HAD MENTIONED, UH, WHICH TOOK EFFECT JUST LAST YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR, UH, THE COURT OPTED FOR A 5% FLAT COLA AT A COST OF 45.6 MILLION, AND, UM, IT WILL BE PAID OUT THROUGHOUT, UM, THE NEXT 15 YEARS, 14 YEARS NOW, UH, TO BE COMPLETED AT 2038. BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THIS SLIDE, YOU SEE, UH, THROUGHOUT GOING BACK TO 2002, THE APPROVED COLAS THAT, UM, PRIOR RETIREES OR CURRENT RETIREES PRIOR EMPLOYEES HAVE RECEIVED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, UM, WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO, I KNOW, UH, KIND OF, AND, AND THE JUDGE DID A GOOD JOB OF THIS EARLIER, IS TRYING TO DISTINGUISH THE FLAT COLAS IN REGARDS, UH, IN COMPARISON TO CPI, UH, COLAS. AND SO REALLY THE FLAT COLA TAKES THAT, THAT WHATEVER PERCENTAGE IS CHOSEN, AND THEN IT'S JUST ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERY RETIREE. UH, FLAT METHOD DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION INDIVIDUAL RETIREES LOSS OF PURCHASING POWER PURCHASE. A PERSON WHO RETIRED TWO YEARS AGO RECEIVED THE SAME PERCENTAGE AS SOMEONE WHO RETIRED 30 YEARS AGO IN REGARDS TO PERCENTAGE, UH, VERSUS A CPI COLAS, THE PERCENTAGE SELECTED IS NOT FIXED FLAT. UM, BUT THE RATE APPLICATION RATHER IS PERCENTAGE OF RESTORE LOSS PURCHASING POWER DUE TO INFLATION AND IS BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE, UH, THAT COMMISSIONERS WANT TO CHOOSE. AND THE CPI BASED METHOD ALSO CONSIDERS OTHER FACTORS IN REGARDS TO HOW MANY OF THE RETIREES, UH, PRIOR HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED COLAS THAT WERE RECEIVED DURING THE, THE PRIOR RETIREMENT YEARS. UH, OFF TO THE RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL SEE COLA COST. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS JUDGE SAI MENTIONED, UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, HE'S LOOKING TOWARDS THE 20% CPI. SO YOU CAN SEE THE COST VERSUS THE ONE FLAT, FLAT RATE VERSUS 20% CPI, UH, THE COST WOULD BE FOR THE 1%, UH, 10 MILLION, 10.4 MILLION VERSUS THREE POINT, UH, 7 MILLION OF THE CPI. AND AGAIN, JUST TO NOTE, UH, SINCE WE DO NOT PRE-FUND THESE COSTS, UH, TYPICALLY TAKES ABOUT A 15 YEAR PERIOD FOR THESE COSTS TO BE FULLY, UH, COVERED, UH, IN REGARDS TO, UH, MAKING THOSE ANNUAL PAYMENTS. AND THAT'S TIED INTO THE CONTRIBUTION RATE THERE. AND LASTLY, UH, COURT, WHAT I HAVE ON HERE, AND AGAIN, TO SHOW, UH, WHAT, UH, JUDGE AKA WAS SPEAKING ABOUT ON THE CPI, AND I'M NOT EVEN GONNA PRETEND TO, TO GO INTO HOW THE, THE ACTUAL FORMULA WORKS FOR THE CPI, I KNOW THE BASICS, BUT IT DOES INVOLVE ACTUARIES THAT GET INVOLVED AND DIANA IS ABLE TO RUN SOME OF THESE REPORTS, SIMULATIONS FOR US THROUGH T-C-D-R-S. UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF INCREASES FOR THE CPI FOR SOMEONE THAT RETIRED TWO YEARS AGO, SEVEN YEARS AGO, 12 YEARS AGO, AND JUST TO POINT OUT, IT WILL NOT AFFECT THOSE THAT RETIRED, UH, PRIOR TO, UH, FROM A PERIOD OF 1975 TO 2011. AND AGAIN, WHAT THIS FORMULA DOES IS CONSIDERS, UH, THESE RETIREES AND THAT SLIDE THAT I SHOWED A COUPLE OF SLIDES PRIOR, UM, THEY DID BENEFIT FROM A LOT OF CPIS, THE OLDER RETIREES, UM, IN PRIOR YEARS. THEREFORE, [00:25:01] THAT'S WHY, UH, YOU MAY SEE AND DUE TO INFLATION COSTS MORE RECENTLY, THAT'S WHY YOU WOULD PROBABLY SEE ON THAT TWO YEAR MARK, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE ONES PRIOR TO THAT. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. COURT, THAT'S, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I KNOW I THREW A LOT AT YOU AT THE LAST WEEK'S, UM, COMMISSIONER'S COURT. SO I TRIED TO MAKE THIS AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE. I HAVE QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER CLAY FLORES. THANK YOU LEO, FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. YOU'RE WELCOME. UM, SO I THINK IT'S THE THIRD SLIDE. HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IT SAYS ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION TO FULLY FUNDED COLA. IT'S 3.6 MILLION VERSUS 10.4 MILLION. IF IT'S A 1% FLAT RATE VERSUS 20 20% CPI, BUT THAT'S MADE AT PAYROLL COSTS, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME. SO IT'S NOT REALLY SAVING US MONEY. EXPLAIN THAT TO ME, PLEASE. UH, WELL, THE, THE CPI, UH, TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER IS JUST AT A LOWER COST OVERALL, AND THAT'S BECAUSE ALL THE RETIREES WILL NOT BE GETTING, UH, A COLA VERSUS THE FIX IS GONNA BE 1%, WHICH IS LOWER, BUT IT'S GONNA BE APPLIED FOR ALL OF OUR OVER 3000 RETIREES. I DUNNO IF THAT UH, MAKES ANY SENSE. NO. OKAY. SO HOW DO YOU GET 10, 10 MILLION VERSUS 3.6 MILLION? BUT THAT'S MADE IT, PAYROLL COST IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. SO HOW'S IT SAVING US MONEY? UH, AND WHERE ARE YOU SAYING THE ESTIMATED COST? UH, COMMISSIONER ON THE THIRD SLIDE, DO YOU WANNA PUT THE THIRD SLIDE UP? OH, OKAY. SO YEAH, SO THE 1%, YEAH. THIRD SLIDE, THIRD, FOURTH COLUMN. OKAY. YES, COMMISSIONER. SO IF YOU GO ACROSS THE ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION TO FULLY FUND THE COLA IS AT 10.4 MILLION. AND THEN IF YOU GO OVER THERE, THE ESTIMATED PAYROLL COSTS, WHICH WE WOULD PAY ANNUALLY TO T-C-D-R-S IS 53 MILLION. NOW, IF YOU ALL OPT TO CHOOSE A 20%, THE ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION TO FULLY FUNDED IS 3.7 MILLION. AND THE ESTIMATED PAYROLL COST IS LOWER THAN THE 53 MILLION. IT'S 52.6 MILLION THAT WE WOULD PAY. SO IT'S ROUGHLY, APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER, BUT IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLAR SAVINGS ON THAT PAYROLL COST. 7,000, 700,000. YEAH. BUT THAT'S WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE MUCH OF A SAVINGS TO ME. OKAY. IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE MUCH OF A, MUCH OF A SAVINGS TO ME. UM, CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE ON THE FOURTH? NOW, NOW IF I COULD, AND, AND THAT'S WHY REAL QUICK, COMMISSIONER. YEAH, YOU'RE SAYING NOT MUCH OF A SAVINGS, BUT THAT WOULD BE, UH, SPREAD OUT. OBVIOUSLY THAT 700,000, BUT REALLY THE INITIAL COST BECAUSE IT'S SPREAD OUT ON THAT, YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE. BUT TO TRULY LOOK AT THE PICTURE AND THE OVERALL COST, IT WOULD BE LOOKING AT 10.4 MILLION VERSUS THE 3.7 MILLION. SO LET'S POINT PROBABLY AS CLEAR AS MUD, BUT SORRY, I TRYING MY BEST. SO THE 10.4 VERSUS THE 3.6 IS MORE REFLECTIVE OF OUR BUDGET? YES, FOR SURE. OVER HOW MANY YEARS? UH, ROUGHLY OVER 15 YEARS, IT'LL BE SPREAD OUT THOSE AMOUNTS. SO THIS FIRST YEAR, HOW MUCH WOULD, WOULD IT BE IN THE BUDGET? HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST US THIS FIRST YEAR? LET'S SEE. I KNOW I DID THESE, I DID THESE NUMBERS HERE. THE, UH, 1% ANNUALLY STARTING THIS YEAR WOULD BE 693,774. THE 20% CPI WOULD BE THIS YEAR IN EACH YEAR AFTER $245,908. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THEN WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MOODY. SO, OH, OH, HOLD ON. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER ONLY PEOPLE WHO RETIRED BASICALLY IN THE LAST 12 YEARS WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS FROM THE 20%. YES. COMMISSIONER. AND SO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT'S BENEFICIAL. 'CAUSE IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAD RETIRED EARLIER ARE THE OLDER PEOPLE AND THEY NEED MORE ASSISTANCE THAN SOMEONE WHO MAY BE RETIRED IN 2022 AND THEY CAN STILL GET ANOTHER JOB OR SOMETHING. VERY GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. IN FACT, I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED WHEN WE RAN THE NUMBERS ON THE SOMEONE THAT RETIRES TWO YEARS IS GONNA GET MORE OF THE AT 2%. BUT IF, GOING BACK TO THAT SLIDE ON SLIDE TWO, COMMISSIONER, WHERE YOU SEE LIKE ALL THE, THE PAST APPROVAL COLAS THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAVE GIVEN THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, IF YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE CPIS, THEY WERE PRETTY HIGH 30%, 30, 30% IN ADDITION TO 2% ON 2002, THAT AFFECTED MORE OF [00:30:01] THE RETIREES THAT RETIRED A LONG TIME AGO. SO WHEN THEY DO THE FORMULA FOR THIS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL RETIREES AND SAY, OH, OKAY, YOU ARE OLDER RETIREES, YOU ACTUALLY ALREADY BENEFITED FROM SEVERAL OF THESE CPI INCREASES AT COURT VERSUS SOMEONE THAT RECENTLY RETIRED, UM, HAS NOT HAD THAT BENEFIT. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THE PAST FEW YEARS, INFLATION HAS REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, SKYROCKETED. SO THESE ARE ALL FACTORS THAT GO INTO THIS FORMULA THAT COMES UP WITH THESE, UM, WITH THESE NUMBERS HERE. SO YOU'RE SAYING RETIREES FROM 2009, 2006, IT EACH GOT A 30% CPI ARE STILL BENEFITING FROM THAT 30% CPI. THAT WAS PASSED BACK THEN? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S ONGOING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. OKAY, COMMISSIONER MOODY. THANKS JUDGE. UM, SO I HAD SOME QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, UH, I KNOW YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS AROUND REPEATED, UH, RAISES, UH, WITH THE RETIREMENT PLAN. SO IF WE WERE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS RAISE, THEN WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T, UM, MAKE THIS APPEAR AS A CONSISTENT, UH, THAT WE'D HAVE TO FACTOR INTO OUR DEBT RATIO AND EVERYTHING? SURE. ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. SO, UM, TO ANSWER THAT, JUST IF I COULD, UH, FULL TRANSPARENCY, WE DID REACH OUT TO T-C-D-R-S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE ACTUARIES, THEY'RE ABLE TO GUIDE US AND TELL US. SO IF Y'ALL DO OPT TO DO A COLA THIS YEAR, IT WILL NOT HAVE AN EFFECT ON OUR REPEATING COLA DESIGNATION. LIKE, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO DO IT FOR THIS YEAR. BUT TO YOUR POINT, UH, COMMISSIONER, THE LIKELIHOOD AND, AND IT'S NOT A DEFINITE, THE WAY I KIND OF EXPLAIN IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH OUR PERSONAL TYPE, UH, CREDIT SCORES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY GIVE YOU A TEMPLATE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND LIKELY HAPPEN, THINGS YOU CAN DO TO IMPROVE YOUR CREDIT, UH, AND THIS CASE, OUR RATE, UM, BUT THEY DON'T COME OUT EXACTLY UNTIL THEY CONSIDER ALL FACTORS. BUT, UH, TO YOUR POINT THIS YEAR, IF Y'ALL WERE TO OPT FOR AN INCREASE, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE COLA UH, DESIGNATION, REPEATING COLA DESIGNATION. HOWEVER, UH, IF WE DO DO IT THIS YEAR, IT IS REALLY HIGHLY LIKELY AND WE WON'T GET CONFIRMATION TILL LAST YEAR. BUT THAT IF YOU DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR, UM, MOST LIKELY IT WOULD AFFECT OUR BOOKS. WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND IT WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN OUR LIABILITIES LONG TERM. YEAH, APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT. AND I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THE COURT REALIZES THAT IF WE DO GO FORWARD, THIS AND RETIREES NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT TOO, THAT IF WE DO GO FORWARD WITH THIS TODAY, THEN UH, NEXT YEAR, UH, UH, WE REALLY CAN'T TOUCH THIS BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR CREDIT RATING. AND, AND HOW WE'RE, UM, HOW THIS IS VIEWED BY THE RATINGS AGENCIES, CORRECT? YES SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, SO CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM, SO THE, THE PROPOSAL WITH THE 20% CPI IS GONNA BE FUNDED OVER 15 YEARS, NOT JUST, UM, OUT OF POCKET PRE-FUNDED. UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN. UM, WELL THAT'S MORE OF A BUDGET FUNCTION, BUT THAT'S, YES, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT AMOUNT HASN'T BEEN IN THE BUDGET AS PRE-FUNDED. SO IT WOULD BE OVER THE 15 YEAR, UH, OVER 15 YEARS. SO JUST LOOKING BACK AT OUR LAST PRESENTATION THAT HAD ALL THESE LISTS, DID WE JUST START DOING THIS FINANCING OVER 15 YEARS? BECAUSE I JUST SAW IT ON THE LAST ONE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT PRIOR TO THAT SHOWING THE, THE 15 YEAR. IS THAT SOMETHING NEW OR? UH, WELL TYPICALLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CONSIDER WORK WITH BUDGET AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, AND, AND EVEN I I'LL JUST SAY TO PREMISE THAT IN PRIOR YEARS WAY BACK, WE'VE ALSO NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT PRE-FUNDED, BUT HAVE WORKED TO TO PARTIALLY FUND, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DOES HELP THROUGHOUT ALSO, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND WORKING WITH BUDGET AND GIVING THE DIFFERENT FACTORS, AND WE DID GIVE 'EM OUR RECOMMENDATION EARLY, OBVIOUSLY DECISION UP TO YOU, BUT, UH, THAT WE WOULD DO A 0% COLA FOR THIS YEAR. DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. SO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE LAST PRESENTATION MM-HMM, THAT, THAT YOU GAVE US, THAT HAD ALL THE PREVIOUS COLAS, UM, FLAT RATES, IT LOOKED LIKE THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS FINANCED OVER 15 YEARS WAS THE LAST ONE. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF, IF THAT WAS JUST LEFT OFF THAT SLIDE AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE OR WHETHER THIS IS JUST SOMETHING NEW. WE STARTED DOING 10% CP, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE. OKAY. ACTUALLY, SO I'VE GOT DIANA HERE AND AGAIN, SHE'S OUR EXPERT. COME OVER HERE. DIANA, WHY DON'T YOU TELL? SO ALL PREVIOUS COS HAVE BEEN, UM, FINANCED. OKAY. SO [00:35:01] THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS EVER BEEN PRE-FUNDED IS IN 2018. THE 10% CPI, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE PAID UP FRONT. OKAY. BUT, UH, ALL OTHERS HAVE BEEN FINANCED. OKAY, THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. NOW I, I KINDA WANT TO HIT ON SOMETHING I THINK COMMISSIONER CLAY FLORES MAYBE WAS, WAS TRYING TO GET AT, BUT LOOKING AT YOUR SLIDE FOUR, UM, AND I'M TRYING TO REFERENCE THIS WITH THE PRESENTATION FROM LAST WEEK, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT LAST WEEK, IT LOOKED LIKE THE, THE CPI BASED COLA, WHEN YOU HAD THOSE WHO HAD RETIRED, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO, 20 YEARS AGO, THEY WERE ACTUALLY GETTING A HIGHER ESTIMATED MONTHLY INCREASE. AND MY, MY CHIEF STAFF SENT ME A SNAPSHOT OF IT. SO I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW. SURE. BUT LOOKED LIKE 30, THIS WAS FOR A 30% CPI BASED COLA, RIGHT? YES. BUT AT 30 YEARS, RETIRED IN 94 WOULD'VE BEEN $108. 2004 WOULD'VE BEEN $120. AND THEN IT STARTS TO COME DOWN IN 2014 IT WOULD'VE BEEN $88. AND IN 2019 FOR KIND OF A RECENT RETIREE WOULD'VE BEEN $41. SO THOSE FOLKS WHO RETIRED A LONG TIME AGO WOULD'VE ACTUALLY HAD MORE IN A COLA BASED, UM, CPI BASED COLA AS OPPOSED TO RECENT RETIREES. BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON SLIDE FOUR, FIRST OF ALL, THE THE NOT ELIGIBLE IF RETIRED BEFORE 2011, CAN, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE REALLY ON THIS, THE, THE GREATEST COLAS FOR THOSE WHO JUST RETIRED. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS OUR EXPECTATION IN KIND OF THIS 20% COLA NO, I I TOTALLY AGREE, COMMISSIONER. IN FACT, LIKE I SAID, I WAS PRETTY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THAT'S, UH, HOW THAT CAME OUT. THAT 2% FOR ANYONE THAT'S RETIRED WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS ON THERE, UH, BECAUSE THAT, THAT ESTIMATED MONTHLY INCREASE IS $50. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, OR TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, 'CAUSE THIS, THIS IS CAN GET PRETTY COMPLICATED. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT EVEN GONNA PRETEND TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW ALL THE FORMULAS WORK. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, UM, FROM A HIGH LEVEL, I MEAN WE HAVE A BASIC UNDERSTANDING, BUT UM, WHEN WE DID DO THE CPI AND TO YOUR POINT COMMISSIONER, WE AT THAT POINT, UH, DID NOT EVEN INCLUDE THE 20%. SO THIS IS A 30% AND THE COST TO THAT, UM, AND AGAIN, IS IS A LOT MORE THAN, THAN THE 20% EFFECT. DO YOU HAVE THAT? MM-HMM. OKAY. YEAH. SO TO YOUR POINT, IT'S GONNA, THE 30%, BECAUSE IT'S A HIGHER AMOUNT OF PURCHASING POWER IS GONNA GO BACK AND LOOK AGAIN INDIVIDUALLY AT EACH RETIREE. AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE, OKAY, THE 20% OBVIOUSLY IS 10% LESS. SO A LOT OF THE OTHER COLAS, UH, COULD HAVE BEEN COVERING THAT AMOUNT THROUGHOUT THOSE PAST YEARS, BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO WORK THEM UP TO THAT EXTRA 10%. SO IF YOU SEE THE COST ON THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A COST RIGHT NOW FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, TO DO THE 20%, UH, 3.7 MILLION AND TO DO THAT 30%, THAT'S $28 MILLION. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT MORE COST TO THAT. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NUMBERS OBVIOUSLY HIGHER PERCENTAGE IS GONNA BE MORE, I'M JUST LOOKING AT AGAIN, THAT THAT SLIDE THAT HAD THE 30%, THE 40% AND THE 50%, AND THEY'RE ALL ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THOSE WHO RETIRED EARLIER, THE, UM, ESTIMATED MONTHLY INCREASE IS MORE. AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE CASE HERE WITH THE 20%. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. YES. AND, AND WE EVEN RAN JUST TO CONSIDER LIKE DOING 10% AND WHEN WE DID THAT, HOW IT COMES OUT, THE RETIREES, IT ONLY AFFECTED WHAT, IT ONLY WOULD AFFECT TWO YEARS AND ANYONE THAT RETIRED PAST THAT TWO YEARS WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING. SO, AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER, I GUESS THAT TOO, I GUESS THE FACTOR IS, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF YEARS GOING BACK. UM, OR DO YOU WANT TO GIVE IT A SHOT, DIANA? I I'M PROBABLY NOT EXPLAINING IT CORRECTLY, BUT GO AHEAD AND CAN YOU ALSO JUST CLARIFY WHY THOSE BEFORE 2011 NOT ELIGIBLE RETIRED BEFORE 2011? SO WE RUN PROJECTIONS, UM, AND THEY COME FROM T-C-D-R-S. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR THE 30% CPI RETIREES THAT HAVE BEEN RETIRED THE LONGEST. THEY'RE GONNA RECEIVE THE HIGHER INCREASE IN PERCENTAGES RATHER THAN THE ONES HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN RETIRED RECENTLY. SO THE 20% CPI IS NOT GONNA COVER THOSE OLDER RETIREES BECAUSE THEY'VE RECEIVED PREVIOUS INCREASES THROUGH CPIS. SO THE SYSTEM FIGURES OUT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED AN INCREASE, THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED A HIGHER CPI THROUGHOUT THEIR HISTORY OF BEING [00:40:01] RETIRED. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT ACCOUNTED IN THE 20% CPI, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A HIGHER CPI TO COVER THOSE OLDER RETIREES. BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE COST IS, IS GREATLY VARIES TO, TO COVER THOSE OLDER RETIREES. UM, LIKE YOU MENTIONED IN THAT, UH, PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, A RETIREE THAT HAS BEEN RETIRED FOR 30 YEARS WITH A 30% CPI WOULD GET A SEVEN POINT 63% INCREASE BECAUSE WE WOULD DO A HIGHER CPI. BUT OF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE COURT'S DECISION. UM, OKAY, WELL I'LL I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, I, YOU KNOW, OVER, AND I'LL GIVE IT ONE LAST SHOT, COMMISSIONER, 'CAUSE I KNOW THIS IS SO, SO THAT IN THAT CONSIDERATION, THAT WAS A GOOD EXPLANATION, DIANA, BUT ALSO TOO, AT THAT 20%, THEY'RE ONLY TRYING TO RESTORE THAT 20% PURCHASING POWER. SO LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, 15% HAD BEEN RESTORED BY PRIOR COLAS VERSUS THAT SAME 15%. NOW WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, AT 30% WE WANT TO 30 RESTORE 30% PURCHASING POWER. OH, OKAY. LOSS DUE TO INFLATION. SO NOW THAT 15% IS AN ADDITIONAL 15% THAT THE COUNTY'S GONNA HAVE TO COVER, WHICH NOW WILL AFFECT PEOPLE GOING BACK ALL THE WAY THAT RETIRED 30 YEARS AGO. OKAY. I THINK I, I BETTER UNDERSTAND IT. I'D STILL LIKE TO, AT SOME POINT IN THE COMING MONTHS, GET, GET A DEEPER DIVE. SO. SURE. AND AND TO DIANA'S POINT, WE, WE RUN THESE REPORTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH T-C-V-R-S, SO WE HAVE DOUBLED AND TRIPLE CHECKED THEM. OKAY. AND, AND AGAIN, THESE FORMULAS GET PRETTY COMP COMPLICATED, COMPLICATED AND, AND INVOLVE THE ACTUARIES, BUT THAT'S THE BASIC PRINCIPLE BEHIND THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING OUT. OKAY. I APPRECIATE LEO, THANK YOU, DIANE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU JUDGE LEO. UM, LET, LET ME THANK YOU. AND, AND FIRST OF ALL SAY, UH, BEFORE I GET INTO MY QUESTIONS, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU ARE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE OF TRYING TO GET THESE NUMBERS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. AND, UH, LOOKING OUT FOR THE BOTTOM LINE OF, UH, FOLKS HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY. UM, THANK YOU. I DO, I DO, UM, APPRECIATE AND WANNA THANK THE JUDGE FOR, FOR, UH, HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS. I, I AGREE. I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING. UM, I WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT I KNOW YOU, YOU HAD KIND OF, UH, JUST SEND OUT A, A MESSAGE ABOUT, I GUESS LAST WEEK ABOUT THE RE REPEATING COLA. WE NEED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT. YES. AND CAREFUL OF THAT. AND OF COURSE WE CAN'T, UM, BIND FUTURE COURTS TO, TO ANYTHING. BUT I THINK IT'S A CAUTIONARY TALE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE DO, UH, TODAY COULD HAVE IMPACTS, UH, NEXT YEAR OR THE, THE FOLLOWING YEAR. UM, AND I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE GASB UM, STANDARDS ON REPEATING COLAS, AND I KNOW THESE ARE JUST GUIDELINES AND THEY'RE NOT SET IN STONE, BUT IT SAYS, AS A RULE OF THUMB, YOU CAN PASS A COLA FOR YOUR RETIREES EVERY THREE YEARS AND NOT RECEIVE A REPEATING COLA DESIGNATION. UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DO THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR. EVERY YEAR IS DIFFERENT. AND, AND, AND WE'VE SEEN THE TREND LINE OF, UH, REVENUES HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GROWING STILL AND HEALTHY. UM, THAT TREND LINE IS KIND OF, UH, TRENDING IN THE, IN THE DIRECTION OF, OF LESS REVENUE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT. BUT I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF DOING THIS. UH, BUT LET ME ASK, I GUESS A BROADER QUESTION, LEO, AND THIS MAY BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOR, FOR FOLKS IN AUSTIN, I DON'T KNOW. BUT, UM, WHEN, IF WE DO THIS TODAY, THE 20% CPI, UH, WE WOULD GO FROM A FUNDING RATIO OF 86.1 TO 86%, UM, OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A HEALTHY NUMBER. I THINK WE HAD A DISCUSSION LAST WEEK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT 86 WAS HEALTHY ENOUGH. UM, I THINK COMPARED TO A LOT OF OTHER PENSION FUNDS, IT'S PRETTY HEL PRETTY HEALTHY, BUT WE'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO TO GO HIGHER IF WE, IF, IF POSSIBLE. SURE. UM, AND, AND TYPICALLY, AND I KNOW EVERY PENSION PLAN'S DIFFERENT, BUT, BUT TYPICALLY, UM, THE WAY YOU DO THAT, YOU INCREASE YOUR FUNDING RATIO, UM, A NUMBER OF WAYS, BUT ONE OF THEM IS, UM, BASED ON RETURNS, RIGHT? AND THE HEALTH OF THE, OF THE FUND, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE T-C-D-R-S IS A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE INVESTING MODEL WHERE IT'S A 7% RETURN EVERY YEAR. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA NECESSARILY GET A BUMP THERE IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET GO WELL OR WE, OR WE'RE TIED INTO THE S AND P 500, WHICH HISTORICALLY IS A 10% RETURN. UM, SO WE CAN'T REALLY COUNT ON INCREASED, UM, INVESTMENT RETURNS NECESSARILY TO INCREASE THAT PENSION LIABILITY. BUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE CAN BE DOING AS AN ORGANIZATION TO TRY TO INCREASE THAT FUNDING RATIO? UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT COMMISSIONER. 'CAUSE UH, THAT, THAT REALLY, YOU [00:45:01] KNOW, I, MY INTENT HERE REALLY IS, YOU KNOW, UH, I HAVE A, I HAVE REQUESTED IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, COLA'S RECEIVED RETIREES. SO I DO HAVE A HEART, BUT I ALSO DO WANT TO PRESERVE, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM FOR ALL OF US FOR CURRENT, NOT ONLY, UH, PRIOR, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE RETIRED. SO, GREAT QUESTIONS. EXCELLENT QUESTIONS. UH, COMMISSIONER. SO PART OF THE THAT PLAN, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO IS ACTUALLY, SO TCRS GIVES US THE CONTRIBUTION RATE, CORRECT. SO IF WE DIDN'T DO A COLA, THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AT THE SAME FUNDED RATIO, UM, THEN IT'S GONNA BE 14.41 THIS YEAR AND WE'RE GONNA CONTRIBUTE THAT RATE OFF OF OUR PAYROLL, OBVIOUSLY, UM, FOR THE WHOLE WHOLE YEAR. WELL, WHAT WE CAN DO IS ACTUALLY, UM, ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THAT TO HELP KEEP OUR, OUR, JUST BECAUSE THEY GIVE US THAT CONTRIBUTION RATE, IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN CONTRIBUTE ANOTHER 1% FOR THE YEAR, UH, OR 2%. UM, THAT'S THEIR CONSERVATIVE AMOUNT THAT SAYS, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO SUSTAIN THIS DECENT RATE, STAY AT THIS. SO THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FROM ACTUALLY GOING AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, THANKS FOR THE CONTRIBUTION RATE. AND IN FACT, ON PRIOR SLIDES THAT I SHOWED, AND, AND, AND OF COURSE WE'VE ESTIMATED, AND THIS WAS LAST LAST WEEK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, TARRANT COUNTY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AS THE JUDGE POINTED OUT, I MEAN THEY, THEY'VE DONE THE 1%, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, BUT THEIR FUNDED RATIO IS AT 91.5, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS A HEAD IN BOTH SHOULDERS OF EVERYBODY ELSE. WELL, THEIR ELECTION RATE, UH, IS ACTUALLY 11.54. SO TCER SAYS YOUR CONTRIBUTION RATE IS 11.54, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING OUT 19.5 ON THEIR OWN. SO THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY HELP. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, IN REGARDS TO OUR FUNDED RATIO, IF WE INCREASE THAT, THAT CONTRIBUTION, THAT YES. OKAY. AND EVEN, UH, AS MY POINT EARLIER, IF YOU OPT TO DO A COLA EVEN, UH, AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, LIKE LET'S SAY LET'S PRE-FUND HALF OF THAT AMOUNT, ALL THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN, UH, WHEN THEY'RE DETERMINING OUR, OUR FUNDED RATIO. OKAY. AND, AND YOU KNOW, I I THINK LOST IN A LOT OF THIS UH, DISCUSSION, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE OUR RETIREES. I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT UM, THE JUDGE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED. UM, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A PRETTY HEALTHY RETIREMENT SYSTEM WHEN YOU COME TO WORK AT THE COUNTY AND YOU'RE GETTING MATCHED 200%, UM, THAT'S A PRETTY MUCH UNHEARD OF IN A LOT OF PLACES. YES. AND I THINK COMMISSIONER, THAT'S HOPEFULLY A SELLING POINT. UH, DAVID, WHEN YOU GO TRY AND RECRUIT FOLKS, , UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE CAN'T COMPETE NECESSARILY WITH THE PRIVATE MARKET WITH RESPECT TO SALARIES, BUT A 200% MATCH IS, UM, IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT LIFETIME ANNUITY TO BOOT THERE, COMMISSIONER. SO ACTUALLY YOU CAN OUTLIVE YOUR ACTUAL, UH, CONTRIBUTIONS THAT YOU'VE PUT IN INTO THE SYSTEM AND I CAN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, SAY IT ENOUGH, BUT THAT 5%, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT JUST TOOK EFFECT LAST YEAR. UM, THAT'S HUGE. NO OTHER COUNTY HAS EVER GIVEN THAT TO RETIREES. I MEAN THAT DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE. SO, YEAH. UH, THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER BENEFIT OBVIOUSLY. SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD TODAY, LEO, AT THE, UM, THE 20% CPI COLA, IS IT, UH, ACCURATE THEN THAT OUR, UM, CONTRIBUTION RATE THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD ADOPT IS 14.52? IS THAT RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONER. OKAY. UM, AND JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, UH, MOVE FORWARD AT THE 20% OF CPI FOR OUR RETIREES COLA, UM, AND ADOPT THE, UM, REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION RATE OF 14.52%. THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MOODY. SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT, THIS IS SLIDE THREE AGAIN. SO OUR CONTR REQUIRED RATE, CONTRIBUTION RATE, THAT'S GONNA GO DOWN TOWARDS LIKE 14% OVER TIME, BUT THEN AS WE ADD ON ANY ADDITIONAL COLAS, THEN IT BUMPS BACK UP. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. AND THEN THE OPPOSITE WAY WITH THE FUNDED RATIO, RIGHT. OVER TIME EXACTLY. IT'S GONNA CREEP UP AND EVERY TIME WE DO COLA INCREASE OR A FLAT RATE, THEN IT DROPS BACK DOWN A LITTLE BIT. YES, EXACTLY POINT. AND DAVID, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY KIND OF IMPACT IF WE WERE TO PAY HALF OR ALL OF THIS NOW VERSUS FUNDING OVER 15 YEARS? UH, OBVIOUSLY THEN THE, THE HIT ON OUR, OUR FUNDED RATE WOULD BE LESS OR, OR IT WOULDN'T, UH, TAKE EFFECT AT ALL. WOULD THAT BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AT THIS POINT ON OUR BUDGET? IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO PRE-FUND. [00:50:01] IT JUST COMES DOWN TO THAT. I MEAN, WE BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN DO THE 20% CPI WITHIN THE AMOUNT WE HAD BUILT INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR OUR CONTRIBUTION. SO IT WON'T COST HAVE ANY BUDGETARY IMPACT. IF YOU WANT A PRE-FUND, THAT WILL PROBABLY REQUIRE IDENTIFYING FUNDS TO DO IT. SO WHAT IF IT WAS AT 50%? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 1.8, 1.9. I'M NOT 1.8. THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE OR IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ASKING IF WE CAN PRE-FUND $1.8 MILLION OF THIS, YES, THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET. OKAY. YOU WOULD NEED TO IDENTIFY THAT FUNDING. BUT AREN'T WE MAKING A CONTRIBUTION TO OUR RESERVE FUND? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY. ARE WE NOT MAKING A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE RESERVE FUND THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE A TRADE OFF THERE? THE RESERVE FUND? YES, YOU ARE. YOU ARE BUILDING UP YOUR RESERVES AND YOU'LL RECALL, DEPENDING ON WHAT PROPERTY TAXES DO IN FUTURE YEARS, ONCE ARPA FUNDING ENDS, WE ARE FORECASTING YOU'LL NEED MOST OF THOSE RESERVES JUST TO MAINTAIN EVEN Q UNDERSTAND. AND IF I WAS ADVOCATING FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, GOING OUT AND MAKING A, A BIG PURCHASE, I, I WOULD COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE'S A CREDIT CARD PAYMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHETHER WE DO IT NOW OR LATER. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST FROM THE REST OF THE COURT TO, TO DO THAT. BUT IF IT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH, UH, THE CURRENT BUDGET, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M OPEN TO IT EITHER WAY, BUT COMMISSIONER CLIFF FLORES, YES, I'M UM, GONNA SUPPORT THIS AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU DO. I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO ACT LIKE I UNDERSTAND BASED ON A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS, THE NUANCES TO GO INTO THIS OR YOU ALL HAVE STUDIED AND GOTTEN DEGREES AND I'VE BEEN CRUNCHING NUMBERS FOR MONTHS. SO I'M JUST THANK YOU MS. AITA. THANK YOU LEO, TO YOUR TEAM. UM, I ALWAYS GET A SHOUT OUT TO PETER PETRO. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WORKED ON THIS, BUT UM, JUST THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING. SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. LET ME, LET ME GO AHEAD AND WEIGH, WEIGH IN. UH, COMMISSIONER CALVER, DID YOU WANNA WEIGH IN? OKAY. UM, THIS OBVIOUSLY IS A VERY COMPLICATED COMPLEX, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, LEO, YOU HAVE STRUGGLED TO TRY TO GET THIS SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT, I'M NOT AN ACCOUNTANT. SO A LOT OF THE ACCOUNT LANGUAGE AND THE FIDUCIARY ACTUARIAL, ALL THAT CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, ALL THAT IS A BIT BEYOND MY TRAINING AND EDUCATION. BUT LET ME SEE IF I CAN'T PUT IT IN MORE SIMPLER TERMS. ONE, YOU HAVE SAID COURT, I DO NOT SUPPORT AN INCREASE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THE DEBT LOAD THAT THAT INCREASE WOULD PUT ON THE COUNTY BUDGET. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THAT IS A FAIR STATEMENT. AND SO BASED AS COUNTY AUDITOR, YOU'RE VER YOU HAVE TO CERTIFY BY LAW THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN AND THEN YOU HAVE TO CERTIFY THE BUDGET THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO THE COURT AND WE MUST HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET, CORRECT? YES. YES SIR. WE DO. PART OF THE OTTER COUNTY OT ROLE IS TO CERTIFY THE REVENUES AND YES, THE STATUTORY THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET. WHAT MAKES A UNIQUE EXPENSE TO THE COUNTY IS THAT IT IS UM, IT IS SOMETHING WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO. CORRECT? WE, WE COULD JUST NOT PASS A TAX A, A PAY COLA INCREASE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I BELIEVE THE COURT, ESPECIALLY WITH TODAY'S ACTION AND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY, WANTS TO GIVE THE DIGNITY AND RESPECT TO THOSE RETIREES. NOW, I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS PARTICULAR RETIREMENT PLAN IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE BEST PLANS IN THE COUNTRY IF UH, FOR SURE FOR OUR RETIREES, YES. IN REGARDS TO THE CONTRIBUTIONS THE COUNTY PUTS IN AND UPON RETIREMENT, WE DOUBLE 200% CONTRIBUTION IN ORDER SO THAT THAT ANNUITY, THE PAYOUT TO THAT RETIREE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, CORRECT? YES SIR. AND SO THE OTHER THING IS, AND AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WE ALSO HELP MAINTAIN THE COST OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE IF RETIREES [00:55:01] CHOOSE TO MAINTAIN ON THE COUNTY INSURANCE PLAN. AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF MAINTAINING THE ANNUAL PREMIUMS AND CO-PAYMENTS THAT WE IMPOSE NOT ONLY ON EMPLOYEES BUT ALSO ON OUR RETIREES. YES, EXCELLENT POINT JUDGE. AND IN FACT, JUST REALLY QUICK ON THAT, WHEN Y'ALL BROUGHT THAT UP, UH, LAST OR WHEN THAT CAME UP, LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE WENT AND DID LIKE HIGH LEVEL, BUT ACTUALLY WE REALLY DO HAVE A REALLY GOOD, UM, INSURANCE RATE IN OUR OPINION DEFINITELY LEFT LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES IN REGARDS TO HEALTH BENEFITS FOR OUR RETIREES. SO, AND SO WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TODAY IS ONE, WE COULD BE IN A ZERO SUM OF DO WE GIVE AN INCREASE OR WE DO, OR WE DO. AND OBVIOUSLY THE COURT IS MOVING FORWARD TO GIVE AN INCREASE. OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO GET THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT. AND IN FACT, FOR THE RECORD, I WANNA REPEAT THAT THE 5% INCREASE THAT WE PASSED IN OR BEEN PUT INTO EFFECT 2023 IS THE HIGHEST AMOUNT EVER GIVEN. YES, SIR. AND I LOOK AT THE HISTORY, IT APPEARS, AND I MAY NOW SHIFT TO THE BUDGET OFFICE COUNTY MANAGER IN REGARDS FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ANY CONSISTENCY IN REGARDS TO WHEN WE GIVE INCREASES. I ASSUME THOSE ARE DEC DECISIONS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THE COURT TAKES 'EM UP AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME IN REGARDS TO THE REVENUES, TO THE EXPENSES, TO THE ECONOMIC SITUATION, THE INFLATION THAT, UH, THAT DEVASTATES, UH, NOT ONLY UH, CITIZENS BUT ALSO THE RETIREES. SO DAVID, GIMME A PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THE COURT IN THE PAST HAS COME TO THESE COALS. IS IT JUST REALLY BEEN AS SIMPLE AS JUST A, A RANDOM DISCUSSION BECAUSE A COMMISSIONER OR THE BUDGET OFFICE RECOMMENDS IT? OR IS THERE SOME THOUGHT PROCESS? BECAUSE I WANT TO NOT ONLY HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND ASK FOR A VOTE AND HOPEFULLY PASS THIS PAY INCREASE, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO LET THE RETIREES KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE, NOT GUARANTEEING ANYTHING. 'CAUSE AS COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ HAS POINTED OUT, THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES ARE GOING TO INTERSECT AT SOME PARTICULAR POINT. I THINK THIS COURT HAS IN ESSENCE TIGHTEN THE BELT, SO TO SPEAK, TO TRY TO EXTEND OUT THAT INTERSECTION, WHICH MEANS WE EITHER HAVE TO DO A TAX INCREASE OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME CUTS TO THE BUDGET. THOSE ARE REALLY HARD DECISIONS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE MADE. SO I WANT FROM THE COUNTY MANAGER, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, THE, THE, THE VIABILITY OF THIS COLA UNDER WITH THE, UH, CPI INDEX AND THEN IS IT WITHIN OUR BUDGET? IS IT GONNA, WHAT IMPACT IS IT GONNA COST AND WHAT CAN WE EXPECT IN THE FUTURE? SO IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK UP THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT WE ASSUMED A CONTRIBUTION RATE THAT T-D-C-R-S, THE ACTUAL REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION RATE THAT THEY ENDED UP SENDING TO US WAS LOWER THAN WHAT WE ASSUMED. THEREFORE, WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET CAN ABSORB THE COST, THE YEAR TO YEAR COST OF A 20% OF CPI INCREASE. SO IT WOULD HAVE NO, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO FUND THAT. WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY MONEY AWAY FROM ANYBODY ELSE. NO, IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. HOWEVER, WHAT THE MESSAGE I THINK, AND I BELIEVE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IF I WERE SENDING OUT A MESSAGE TO RETIREES, IT WOULD BE, DON'T EXPECT THIS TO OCCUR NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST 10, 20 YEARS HAD TWO YEARS IN A ROW OF COLAS SO FAR THAT HAS NEVER, THAT HAS NOT TRIGGERED A DESIGNATION AS A SERIAL COLA AWARD. BUT THREE YEARS WOULD BE A PROBLEM. I AGREE 100% WITH LEO. YOU KNOW, TWO DATA POINTS, THREE DATA POINTS IS A TREND. AND SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT IF THE COURT APPROVES THE 20% CPI THIS YEAR, DON'T EXPECT THE COURT TO APPROVE ANOTHER ONE NEXT YEAR. AND WHAT IS THE, AS YOU POINTED OUT, AND I'M SURE COULD BE IN RESPONSE TO, WELL, WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR? LIKE TARRANT COUNTY, WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO THE BUDGET IF WE WERE TO BE A REPEATER COST OF LIVING [01:00:01] INCREASE AND DID THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, EITHER FROM YOU, LEAH, OR YOU DAVID? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE COUNTY BUDGET PROCESS IN THE FUTURE? SO, IF THE ACTUARIES ASSUME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE A COLA, THAT MEANS THEY ASSUME THE COST OF THAT INTO YOUR FUTURE EXPENSES, WHICH MEANS YOUR FUNDED RATIO DROPS BECAUSE YOUR FUTURE EXPENSES ARE HIGHER. THAT ASSUMPTION INCREASES YOUR LONG-TERM DEBT BECAUSE RETIREE OBLIGATIONS ARE A PART OF OUR LONG-TERM DEBT. AND AS WE'VE MADE THE COURT AWARE, AWARE, THE THREE BOND RATING AGENCIES ARE ALREADY MONITORING OUR LEVEL OF LONG-TERM DEBT. SO NUMBER ONE, THAT ASSUMPTION INCREASES THAT NUMBER AUTOMATICALLY. NUMBER TWO, IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE REAL ANNUAL BUDGET IMPACTS IF YOUR CREDIT RATING IS DOWNGRADED, THAT MAKES IT MORE EXPENSIVE TO BORROW MONEY AND THAT EXPENSE HAS TO BE PAID FOR. SO IN SIMPLE LANGUAGE, WHAT I GET FROM THAT CONVERSATION IS THAT ALTHOUGH THIS DEBT THAT WE MAY INCUR CAN BE ABSORBED WITH THE PRIOR DECISIONS THE COURT HAS MADE, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, THIS PARTICULAR EXPENDITURE IS THE DEBT FLOATS, SO TO SPEAK, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO PAY INTO THE SYSTEM. IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T JUST SAY, THIS IS ONLY GONNA COST SO MUCH FOR THE FUTURE YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE VIABILITY, DEPENDING ON THE ACTUARIAL TABLES, DEPENDING ON THE PERCENTAGES THAT DEBT COULD, COULD INCREASE AND COULD DECREASE. THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY WHAT WE CAN DO WITH, WITH CERTAINTY. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU'RE TAKING A MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, LEAH, TO SAY, I REALLY RECOMMEND THAT WE DON'T DO A PAY, UH, PAY INCREASE, PAY RAISE THIS YEAR. ISN'T THAT WHAT, ISN'T THAT THE DY I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS, THIS DISCUSSION IS SO DIFFICULT AND SO COMPLEX. 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY WE'RE BUYING SOMETHING THAT'S WHAT A, A FIXED COST IS AND WE CAN THEN FIGURE IT OUT OVER THE LIFETIME. CORRECT. YEAH. AND ALSO PART OF WHAT HAPPENS IS EVERY YEAR EMPLOYEES LEAVE AND YOU HIRE NEW EMPLOYEES AND THAT AFFECTS YOUR ACTUARIAL, UH, PROJECTIONS AS WELL, DEPENDING ON HOW OLD THEY ARE AND YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL BE UNTIL THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE. ALL THAT GOES INTO THE, THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE. IT'S, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS, I'M BUYING A CAR FOR $40,000, HERE'S MY PAYMENT. IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR. AND RETIREES WHO OUTLIVE THEIR LIFE TABLE LIFE EXPECTANCY THAT MONEY TO PAY THEM COMES OUT OF THE COUNTY POCKET. CORRECT? CORRECT. IT EXCEEDS OBVIOUSLY THEIR CONTRIBUTION. IT EXCEEDS OUR DOUBLE CONTRIBUTION AND WE HAVE TO KEEP ADDING TO MAKE SURE THOSE RETIREES ARE, OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM IS A BANK ACCOUNT WHERE THE EMPLOYEE'S DEPOSITING MONEY AND THE COUNTY'S DEPOSITING MONEY AND T-D-C-R-S IS INVESTING THAT THOSE FUNDS TO ACHIEVE HOPEFULLY A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM RETURN OF 7% EVERY YEAR. IF AN EMPLOYEE OUTLIVES THEIR CONTRIBUTION, THEY STILL GET THEIR MONTHLY BENEFIT. THAT HAS TO COME OUT OF OUR BANK ACCOUNT AT T-D-C-R-S. AND THAT'S THE GOAL PLAN OF OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM. DEPENDING ON THE CHOICE THEY MAKE, THE ELECTION ON THEIR RETIREMENT, IF THEY CHOOSE FOR THEIR LIFE OR THEIR SPOUSE'S LIFE, WE WILL PAY YEAH. TILL THOSE LIVES END. CORRECT. GREAT POINT, JUDGE, BECAUSE, AND WE'RE ON, EVEN THOUGH THE RETIREE PASSES ON, IF HE MADE HIS WIFE AND ELECTED HIS, HIS SPOUSE OR, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR THE LIFETIME, THEN EVEN THOUGH THE RETIREE PASSED ON, WE WOULD CONTINUE PAYING THE SPOUSE, UH, THROUGHOUT. AND IS THERE ANY PLAN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT COMES CLOSE TO WHAT WE DO? UM, I, I'LL JUST REPEAT. WE'VE GOT A VERY ROBUST AND WE'RE VERY BLESSED WITH THIS, A RETIREMENT PLAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH. I JUST HAVE A FINAL COMMENT. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GONNA PASS THIS AND WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING NEXT YEAR FOR, IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR AAA RATING. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. SO I JUST HOPE THAT THIS COURT REMEMBERS THAT BECAUSE OFTENTIMES IT SEEMS LIKE I'M THE ONE WHO REMEMBERS CONVERSATIONS AND NOBODY ELSE DOES. SO I HOPE WE DON'T GO INTO THE SAME THING NEXT YEAR. 'CAUSE SOMEONE STARTS TO ADVOCATE IN SOMEONE'S POLITICAL GAMING. AND SO I HOPE THAT WE REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION. I'LL REMEMBER FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER I'LL REMEMBER AS WELL. I [01:05:01] . OKAY, GREAT. FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE HAVE, WE'RE IT'S GONNA BE ON THERE. THANK YOU, . ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNAL BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. YOU MR. LEO. PUT IT IN BUDGET. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP NOW. ITEM THREE, [3. Presentation, discussion and appropriate action regarding the potential changes to the proposed Bexar County Fiscal Year 2024-25 Operating and Capital Budget documented in the memorandum from the Budget Officer dated September 9, 2024. (Estimated Presentation Time: As Needed)] PRESENTATION. DISCUSSION. APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE POTENTIAL CHANGES OF PROPOSED BEXAR COUNTY FISCAL YEAR 24 25, OPERATING CAPITAL BUDGET DOCUMENTED IN THE REC MEMORANDUM FROM THE BUDGET OFFICER DATED SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2024. MS. GAAN, GOOD MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, TANYA GATAN, BUDGET AND FINANCE DIRECTOR. I'LL BE PRESENTING THE DRAFT FORM OF THE CHANGED ORDER, UH, TODAY TO YOU. UM, THERE ARE 11 ATTACHMENTS. I WILL GO INTO DETAIL FOR ONE OF THEM, WHICH IS A CHANGE MEMORANDUM. UM, AND SO THE FIRST SECTION THAT, UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE CHANGE ORDER AS WELL. UH, THE FIRST FIRST SECTION THAT YOU'LL SEE. CAN WE, UM, CAN I JUST INTERRUPT YOU TANYA? YEAH. YOU KNOW, UH, YOU TALK, PEOPLE TELL ME I TALK FAST, BUT YOU TALK FAST. OKAY. SO IF YOU, YOU COULD JUST SLOW DOWN THROUGH THIS AND GO THROUGH IT EACH, EACH ONE SO THAT WE CAN JOT DOWN QUESTIONS AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE DONE, WE CAN GO BACK AND ASK IF, IF THAT WOULD BE COOL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. FOR SURE. THANK YOU. THINK THAT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE EVER ASKED SOMEBODY TO SLOW DOWN THE PRESENTATION. . WELL NOW DON'T ADD ANY SLIDES, JUST SLOW DOWN IN THE WAY YOU DO IT 'CAUSE YOU KNOW. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. DO, THAT'S THAT BRACKRIDGE EAGLE IN YOU . SO, UM, AND CAN YOU JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT WHICH ONE WE'RE GOING THROUGH SO WE CAN WHICH, WHICH ONE ARE WE ON? YEAH, SO, UH, IF YOU OPEN UP THE BINDER, THERE'S A SECTION RIGHT BE, IT'S THE FIRST COUPLE OF PAGES, AND THIS IS A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE CHANGE ORDER IS. GREAT, THANK YOU. IT DESCRIBES, YEAH, AND IT DESCRIBES THE ACCOUNTING STRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE FOR THE COUNTY AUDITORS TO UPLOAD THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM. AND IT ALSO HAS A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF EACH OF THE ATTACHMENTS, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE. THE ONLY ONE I'LL GO INTO DETAIL IS ATTACHMENT ONE, WHICH IS A CHANGE MEMORANDUM. SO THE FIRST ATTACHMENT, AS I MENTIONED, IS A CHANGE MEMORANDUM AS, UH, PRESENTED TODAY IN THIS DRAFT FORM. UH, THE FIRST SECTION WILL BE THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEN I'LL GO INTO OTHER FUNDS IN THE SECOND SECTION. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS THE ENDING FUND BALANCE, UH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 25. PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND WAS 243,242,499. WE ARE MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT TO OUR CURRENT YEARS ESTIMATE IN THE AMOUNT OF 1.2 MILLION. AND I'LL DESCRIBE, UH, WHY WE'RE DOING THAT IN THE DETAILS BELOW. AND THEN OVERALL TO THE 24 25 GENERAL FUND PROPOSED APPROPRIATIONS, WE'RE INCREASING THE BUDGET BY $5,059,106. THIS WILL BRING THE ENDING FUND BALANCE AS PRESENTED TODAY TO $239,387,250. UH, THE FIRST OFFICE THAT WE'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENT TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS ADULT PROBATION. WE'RE INCREASING THEIR OPERATIONAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THEIR JANITORIAL SERVICES AT THE SOUTHWEST SATELLITE LOCATION AND THE AMOUNT OF 72 70 $2,000. SECOND, WE'RE ALSO INCREASING A PRINTER NETWORK PROJECT TO IMPROVE THEIR NETWORK PRINTING OPERATIONS WITHIN THE OFFICE IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,000. THE NEXT OFFICE IS BEAR HERITAGE AND PARKS WE'RE INCREASING THE SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS APPROPRIATION FOR PEST CONTROL SERVICES AT WOODLAKE PARK WITHIN THE PARKS DIVISION AND THE AMOUNT OF $4,250. THE NEXT OFFICE IS BIBLIOTECH. WE'RE INCREASING THE SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS APPROPRIATIONS TO PURCHASE 3D PRINTERS AND MAKERSPACE EQUIPMENT AT THE LOCATIONS FOR BIBLIOTECH EDU AND PRECINCT TWO. THIS IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,000. WE'RE ALSO INCREASING THE OPERATIONAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP FEE FOR ONE OF THE LIBRARIANS IN THE AMOUNT OF $500. NEXT OFFICE WILL BE CENTRAL MAGISTRATE DISTRICT COURTS WE'RE INCREASING THE SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS APPROPRIATION TO REPLACE TWO NEW DESK CHAIRS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000. THE NEXT OFFICE IS CIVIL DISTRICT COURTS. WE'RE INCREASING THE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES FOR APPROPRIATION EXPENSES FOR THE FOUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENTS PREVIOUSLY FUNDED UNDER SAMHSA GRANT, WHICH THE GRANT HAS ENDED IN THE AMOUNT OF 240,544. AND THIS WILL SUPPORT THE EARLY CHILDHOOD COURTS. JUDGE CAN RE ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO. CAN WE GO AHEAD AND JUST GET IT, GET THROUGH IT? YEAH. WE'VE GOT A LONG LIST, DON'T WE? YES. LET'S, I'M GONNA ASK IF WE COULD JUST GET THROUGH THIS, SO, AND THEN GO BACK AND ASK QUESTIONS. SO CONTINUE. LET'S GOT TIME TO CONTINUE. YES, JUDGE. UM, THE NEXT ARE THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE OFFICES, UH, FOR EACH PRECINCT WE ARE FUNDING AND AUTHORIZING ONE DEPUTY CONSTABLE TO INCLUDE SALARY, BENEFITS, SUPPLIES, AND EQUIPMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 91,334 FOR EACH OF THE PRECINCTS, WE'RE ALSO REMOVING THE AUTHORIZATION AND FUNDING OF TWO LEAD DEPUTY CONSTABLES. WE'RE RE REINSTATING ONE OF THOSE DEPUTY CONSTABLES THAT WE WERE DELETING, AND WE'RE GONNA CREATE A DEPUTY, A DEPUTY CONSTABLE CAPTAIN. THE NET COST OF [01:10:01] THAT IS SAVINGS IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,903. EACH PRECINCT RECEIVED THAT CHANGE, UH, WITHIN THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. UH, ADDITIONALLY, PRECINCT TWO FOR THE CONSTABLES. WE ARE, UH, INCREASING THE SUPPLIES APPROPRIATIONS TO FUND SAFETY SUPPLIES FOR 23 SHIELDS AND HELMETS FOR THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES TO SERVICE THE RITZ OF POSSESSION. THIS IS IN THE AMOUNT OF 47,322. WERE INCREASING IN THE SAME PRECINCT. THEIR OPERATIONAL COSTS TO FUND REGISTRATION, UH, FEES TO RENEW, TRAINING LICENSES, AND THE AMOUNT OF $1,000. AND THEN I JUST, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, PRECINCT THREE FOUR, UH, ALSO RECEIVED, UM, THE SAME, UH, POSITION AND CHANGES TO THE LEADS AND THE CAPTAINS. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT OFFICE IS THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY. WE'RE INCREASING THE PERSONNEL APPROPRIATION TO FUND UNIFORM ALLOWANCES FOR 65 INVESTIGATORS AT AN ANNUAL, UM, ANNUAL COST OF $420 FOR TOTAL COST OF $27,300. MOVING ON THE NEXT PAGE FOR THE SAME OFFICE, WE'RE INCREASING PERSONNEL APPROPRIATION TO THE PERSONNEL APPROPRIATION TO ADD SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR 53. PROSECUTOR FIVE POSITIONS, ONE DEPUTY CHIEF MISDEMEANOR POSITION AND ONE ETHICAL DISCLOSURE UNIT DIRECTOR POSITION TO INCLUDE SALARY AND BENEFITS. THE TOTAL COST FOR THESE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS IS 448,240. THE NEXT OFFICE IS O-C-J-P-P CRIMINAL LABORATORY. WERE INCREASING THEIR PERSONNEL APPROPRIATION TO INCLUDE OVERTIME FOR THE 26 FORENSIC SCIENTISTS TO ASSIST WITH THEIR BACKLOG CASES IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,000. WE'RE ALSO INCREASING THEIR CAPITAL, UH, EXPENDITURES APPROPRIATION TO THE, FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THEIR COMBINED DNA INDEX SYSTEM SERVER AND THE AMOUNT OF $1,000. THE NEXT OFFICE IS ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE INCREASING THE OPERATIONAL COST APPROPRIATIONS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL XEROX RENTAL AGREEMENT IN THE WORKFORCE BUDGET AND THE AMOUNT OF $1,300. THE NEXT DIVISION WITHIN ECD IS CHILD WELFARE BOARD. WE'RE INCREASING THE OPERATIONAL COST TO FUND THE T-D-F-P-S AGREEMENT THAT WAS UNABLE TO BE COMPLETED THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. AND AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, WE DECREASED THE ESTIMATE FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR'S AGREEMENT AND WE'RE SIMPLY REFUNDING IT OVER INTO THE FISCAL YEAR 25, SO THEY CAN COMPLETE THAT AGREEMENT. THE NEXT OFFICE IS FACILITIES MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATION. WE'RE INCREASING THE CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS TO FUND THE CHCS WORKSTATION AT THE JUSTICE CENTER AND INTAKE ANNEX PROJECT TO CARRY OVER THE FUNDING TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND THE AMOUNT OF $1,000. ALSO WITHIN THE SAME APPROPRIATION, WE'RE FUNDING THE B-C-O-B-C-S-O MEMORIAL WALL PROJECT TO CARRY OVER THE FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000. WE ARE ALSO CARRYING OVER A COUNTYWIDE REPLACEMENT PROJECT, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF 377,592. AND WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING A PROGRAM, UH, PROGRAMMABLE PAPER CUTTER FOR THE PRINT SHOP IN THE AMOUNT OF 29,138. INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE INCREASING THE OPERATIONS APPROPRIATIONS TO FUND VARIOUS OPERATIONAL COSTS TO INCLUDE CONSULTING SERVICES, UM, ANNUAL BENCHMARKS TO EVALUATE MARKET COMPENSATION LICENSE RENEWALS, FIREWALL NETWORK SECURITY AT THE EOC AND QUARRY RUN AND TO FUND VEHICLE REPAIRS FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 75,379. JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT THREE WERE INCREASING THEIR SUPPLIES, APPROPRIATIONS TO FUND ADDITIONAL POSTAGE FOR THE INCREASED USAGE AND PRICE AND THE AMOUNT OF $3,000. JUVENILE DISTRICT COURTS WERE INCREASING THE SUPPLIES APPROPRIATION BY $5,000 TO SUPPORT, UH, PRO PROVIDE TONER AND OFFICE SUPPLIES. MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE, THERE'S NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. WE ARE SIMPLY REMOVING THE FUNDING FOR THE FORENSIC TRANSCRIBER THAT WE PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET AND WE'RE SWITCHING IT TO AN OFFICE ASSISTANT THREE TO PROVIDE MORE COVERAGE FOR THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. THERE'S NO NET COST TO THAT CHANGE. THE NEXT OFFICE IS A MILITARY SERVICE OFFICE TO INCREASING THEIR OPERATIONAL APPROPRIATION TO FUND OUTREACH SPONSORSHIP EVENTS, UH, WITHIN THEIR CONTRACTED SERVICES AND SPECIAL SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,700. NON-DEPARTMENTAL, WE'RE INCREASING THE OPERATIONAL CORPORATION WITHIN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT TO FUND A PORTION OF THE, SO SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE RADIO TOWERS. PER THE A-A-R-R-S AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 187,532, WE'RE INCREASING THE TRANSFERS OUT FOR SEED FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000. AND I'LL GO INTO DETAIL ON THE FUND WHEN I DESCRIBED THAT ITEM. WE'RE REMOVING FUNDING FROM CONTINGENCIES TO REALLOCATE THE REMAINING RADIO PROJECT. ITEMS TO INCLUDE CONSULTING, RADIO, BACKHAUL, AND DISPATCH CONSOLE EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. AND WE'RE REFUNDING THAT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, SO WE'RE JUST REMOVING IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. WE'RE ALSO INCREASING [01:15:01] CONTINGENCIES TO FUND THE CERTIFICATION PAY FOR JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT FOR COURT CLERKS WHO PLAN TO TEST OUT FOR THEIR CERTIFICATIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,800. MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PAGE. CONTINUING ON WITH NON, UH, NON-DEPARTMENTAL, WE'RE INCREASING THE CONTINGENCY AMOUNT TO PROVIDE A 6% ADJUSTMENT TO THE ELECTED, UH, CONSTABLE SALARIES AS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, UM, OR THE COMMITTEE RATHER, IN THE AMOUNT OF $13,888, WE'RE INCREASING CONTINGENCIES TO FUND THE YOUTH DIVERSION COORDINATORS AT A GRADE OF NE OH FOUR. IN LIEU OF THE COURT CLERKS FOR THE YOUTH DIVERSION PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $38,421, WE ARE REALLOCATING THE 12 DEPUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND THE THREE DEPUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT SERGEANTS FROM CONTINGENCIES. AND WE WILL AUTHORIZE THOSE POSITIONS IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUDGET. THIS IS A DECREASE WITHIN THE CONTINGENCIES IN SIMPLY GETTING REALLOCATED INTO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT. AND I'LL GO INTO DETAIL WHEN I REACH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON THAT PROGRAM CHANGE. WE'RE INCREASING CONTINGENCIES TO, TO FUND ONE DEPUTY LIEUTENANT FOR THE SMART PROGRAM AND THE AMOUNT OF $154,153. THE NEXT OFFICE IS THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. WE'RE FUNDING AND AUTHORIZING ONE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST LOGISTICS AND REMOVING THE FUNDING OF THE AUTHORIZATION OF ONE INVENTORY CONTROL TECHNICIAN IN THE AMOUNT OF 38,389. WE'RE FUNDING AND AUTHORIZING OFFICE ASSISTANT THREE TO PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FOR THE OFFICE. AND THE AMOUNT OF 74,849. WE'RE INCREASING THE SUPPLIES APPROPRIATION FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR SAFETY SUPPLIES, INCREASING IT BY $11,426 TO, TO BRING IT TO A TOTAL COST OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. WE'RE ALSO INCREASING THE OPERATIONS APPROPRIATION TO FUND ONE OF THE FOUR PAYMENTS FOR THE TEXAS COMMISSION AND FIRE PROTECTION ACCREDITATION REPAIR SERVICES FOR A SMALL GENERATOR LOCATED AT OEM AND TRAILER REPAIRS FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 60,200. PROBATE COURTS WERE REDUCING THEIR TRAVEL APPROPRIATION AND THE AMOUNT OF 12,500. THIS FUNDING HAS BEEN ALLOCATED WITHIN THEIR DISCRETIONARY FUND. WE'RE INCREASING PERSONNEL TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL VISITING JUDGE FOR THE PROBATE COURT. UM, NUMBER TWO IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,000. NEXT OFFICE IS THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS WE'RE INCREASING THE OPERATION APPROPRIATION TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO INCREASE THE CONTRACT FOR THEIR OUTSIDE ATTORNEY THAT SUPPORTS THEIR MENTAL HEALTH, UM, DIVISION AND THE AMOUNT OF $3,000. THE NEXT OFFICE IS PREVENTATIVE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. WE'RE INCREASING THE OPERATIONAL APPROPRIATION TO ADD, UH, ADDITIONAL COPIER RENTAL EXPENSES FOR THEIR NEW LOCATION AT THE A DC UPDATING A QUOTE, I'M SORRY, EXCUSE DUE TO AN UPDATED QUOTE. AND INCREASING THEIR PROFESSIONAL LICENSES ASSOCIATED WITH VARIOUS EMPLOYEES. THE TOTAL COST IS 1,559. WE'RE ALSO INCREASING THEIR SUPPLIES, APPROPRIATION TO FUND OFFICE SUPPLIES FOR VARIOUS EVENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000. WE'RE INCREASING THEIR SUPPLIES APPROPRIATION WITHIN THE AGRILIFE DIVISION FOR FUEL AND TRANS FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR THEIR EDUCATORS, AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION DUES FOR THEIR OFFICE FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $650. THE NEXT OFFICE IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE'RE REMOVING THE AUTHORIZATION AND FUNDING OF SIX DEPUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR THE STOP PROGRAM FOR A TOTAL NEW NUMBER OF SIX DEPUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR THE STOP PROGRAM. WE'RE REALLOCATING ONE DEPUTY SHERIFF SERGEANT, LAW ENFORCEMENT SERGEANT FROM THE STOP DIVISION TO THE PATROL DIVISION. WE'RE FUNDING AND AUTHORIZING AN ADDITIONAL 12 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, INCLUDING SALARY BENEFITS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,163,000. $208, EXCUSE ME, I'M, I'M SORRY, 1 MILLION. 1 MILLION. YOU SAID? 1000. 1 MILLION. 1,163,208. THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING THAT. UM, THIS IS THE REALLOCATION FROM NON-DEPARTMENTAL CONTINGENCIES INTO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUDGET. WE'RE REALLOCATING FUNDING ACTUALLY. THE NEXT ONE IS, UM, THE ONE REALLOCATING FROM CONTINGENCIES. THE FIRST ONE IS TO, UM, ADD 12 ADDITIONAL ONES. THIS IS REALLOCATION FROM CONTINGENCIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,605 $5,138. WE'RE FUNDING AND AUTHORIZING FOUR DEPUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATORS TO INCLUDE SALARY, BENEFITS AND EQUIPMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $506,000 200. AND I'M SAYING THIS IS ALL WRONG, EXCUSE ME. $506,256. WE'RE FUNDING AND AUTHORIZING TWO LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS TO SUPPORT THE EXISTING PSYCHOLOGIST AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE AMOUNT OF $183,446. [01:20:03] THE NEXT OFFICE IS A TAX OFFICE. WE'RE INCREASING THEIR OPERATIONAL APPROPRIATION FOR LEASING EQUIPMENT FOR THEIR CASH HANDLING AS WELL AS OFFICE EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND PAMPHLETS FOR A TOTAL COST OF $62,060, INCREASING THE SUPPLIES APPROPRIATION TO FUND ADDITIONAL POSTAGE FOR MAILOUTS AND MIDDLE DETECTORS OF IN THE AMOUNT OF 27,100. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, THAT IS A COMPLETION OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, AND I'LL MOVE ON TO EACH OF THE, UM, OTHER FUNDS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS SUPPORT. THE FIRST ONE IS A TD AND TEXT FUND ENDING FUND BALANCE WAS AT 181 MILLION. WE'RE INCREASING THE TRANSFERS OUT, UH, AND THE AMOUNT OF $3.7 MILLION TO SUPPORT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND WE'RE ALSO ADDING THE FUNDING AND THE AMOUNT OF $80 MILLION FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A TD INTER AGREEMENT FOR THE SILVER LINE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. WE'RE ADDING FUNDING TO FOR A NEW PROJECT FOR IT CALLED SERVICENOW APPLICATION PORTFOLIO AND OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT PROJECTS. THIS IS TO IMPROVE MANAGEMENT OF OVER 200 APPLICATIONS COUNTYWIDE. THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF $120,000, $120,300. WE'RE ADDING FUNDING TO THE RADIO SYSTEM AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. UM, THIS IS FOR THE RADIO BACK CALL AND DISPATCH CONSOLES. THIS IS GONNA BE FUNDED IN CAPITAL 303,004 $546. WE'RE ADDING FUNDING FOR PRECINCT FOUR SOLAR LIGHTING PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000 TO INCREASE THE PROJECT TO $423,375. WE'RE ADDING FUNDING FOR EACH OF THE VEHICLES OF THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UH, CONSTABLES, UM, CONSTABLE POSITIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF 243,288. AND WE'RE ADDING TWO VEHICLES FOR THE SHERIFF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE ALLOCATED. ALL THESE, ALL THESE WILL BE ALLOCATED IN THE FLEET ACQUISITION FUND FOR THE POSITIONS MENTIONED EARLIER AND THE AMOUNT OF 143,748. THE NEXT FUND IS THE SEED FUND. WE'RE INCREASING THE TRANSFERS IN FROM THE GENERAL FUND BY $250,000 AND INCREASING THE PROJECT FOR PROJECT ICEBERG SKILLS TOYOTA AGREEMENT AND THE AMOUNT OF $250,000. THIS REFERENCES BACK TO THE TRANSFERS, UM, OUT THAT WAS SUPPORTED IN THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET. THE NEXT, UM, FUND WILL BE COURTHOUSE FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT FUND. WE ARE DECREASING THE ESTIMATES FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR IN THE AMOUNT OF 447,941, AND WE'RE INCREASING THE CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE HVAC UPGRADES. A BOILER AND HVAC UPGRADES PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $856,077. WE'RE INCREASING THE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION PROJECT TO CARRY OVER THE FUND AND THE AMOUNT OF, OR THE PROJECT RATHER, AND THE AMOUNT OF 447,337. AND WE'RE INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER RENOVATION PROJECT. THE AMOUNT OF $385,000. NEXT FUND WILL BE THE COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND. WE'RE REMOVING THE AUTHORIZATION AND FUNDING OF ONE OF THE OFFICE ASSISTANT THREES AND AUTHORIZING INSTEAD AN OFFICE ASSISTANT, EXCUSE ME, OFFICE ASSISTANT TWO. AND WE'RE RE FUNDING AN OFFICE ASSISTANT THREE IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,558. NEXT FUND IS THE COUNTY CLERK RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND. WE'RE INCREASING THE CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE COMMAND MOBILE UNIT STORAGE PROJECT. THE AMOUNT OF 428,500. NEXT FUND IS THE DISTRICT AND COUNTY COURTS TECHNOLOGY FUND. WE'RE INCREASING THE SUPPLIES APPROPRIATION TO FUND $58,893 FOR TECHNOLOGY PURPOSES WITHIN THE COUNTY COURTS. NEXT FUND IS THE PARKING FACILITIES FUND. GOING ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, WE'RE INCREASING THE CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS TO FUND THE PARKING EQUIPMENT PAY STATION AT ALL THE LOCATIONS TO INCLUDE KAMAL TO DEE AND THE RECORDS PARKING GARAGE AND THE AMOUNT OF 304,995. NEXT FUND IS A FLEET ACQUISITION FUND. WE'RE INCREASING THE TRANSFERS IN FROM THE CIP FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $385,036. THIS IS TO FUND THE TWO, THE TWO ALLOCATIONS FOR THE CONSTABLES IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICE. AS MENTIONED IN THE CIP FUND, THE GRANTS AND AID WERE INCREASING THE TRANSFERS IN FOR TIDC MANAGED ASSIGNED COUNSEL GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,381,755. AND WE'RE ALSO INCREASING THE TIDC PUBLIC DEFENDER MENTAL HEALTH GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,207,774. THE FINAL CHANGE, UH, FOR THE FUNDS WILL BE THE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENT FUND. THIS DECREASES, UH, IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE REVENUE BY 9,524, AND WE'RE INCREASING THE SUPPLIES APPROPRIATION IN THE, UH, FOR NET IN DECREASE OF 9,524. SO THAT IS THE, UH, ATTACHMENT ONE THAT I WENT INTO DETAIL. AND I'LL JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER, UH, EACH OF THE ATTACHMENTS JUST TO TELL YOU WHAT'S INCLUDED. UH, THE SECOND ATTACHMENT IS [01:25:01] THE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES. THESE ARE JUST CHANGES THAT ARE SIMPLE. UM, CHANGES TO LIKE GRADES AND WORDING. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT, FISCAL IMPACT ON THE BUDGET. ATTACHMENT THREE IS THE CERTIFICATION OF THE COUNTY REVENUE FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. ATTACHMENT FOUR IS OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT COMMITTEE LIST, UM, AS APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE AND TO INCLUDE, UM, AND THIS IS FUNDED IN OUR CIP FUND. ATTACHMENT FIVE IS OUR TAKE HOME VEHICLE LIST. ATTACHMENT SIX IS OUR BEX COUNTY HOLIDAYS. ATTACHMENT SEVEN IS OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARY. ATTACHMENT EIGHT IS A LIST OF OUR CONTINUED FROZEN POSITIONS. ATTACHMENT NINE IS A SPECIAL ORDER APPROVING THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S BUDGET, AS WELL AS ANY SALARY CHANGES FOR THE COURT REPORTERS ATTACHMENT 10. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT LAST ATTACHMENT? UH, THIS ONE IS THE ORDER APPROVE, UH, APPROVING THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S BUDGET. OKAY, THANK YOU. ATTACHMENT 10 IS THE PROPOSED STEP PLAN, UH, FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ON CBA AND ATTACHMENT 11 IS THE COUNTY CLERK'S RESTORATION OR PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION PLAN. SO THAT'S THE COMPLETE DRAFT OF THE CHANGE ORDER, UH, FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'LL PRESENT TOMORROW FOR ADOPTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY MOTION, ANY DISCUSSION? FIRST JUDGE, COMMISSIONER? YES, TANYA. THANK YOU. PERFECT PACE AND TONE OF THAT PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY, . UM, SO A A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, THANKS FOR YOU AND YOUR, YOUR DEPARTMENT'S WORK ON THIS. UM, I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER, UM, MS. MALLON CAME IN AND HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT, UM, REQUESTS. AND I KNOW IN FAIRNESS TO HER, IT'S HER FIRST BUDGET CYCLE AND IT'S, UH, HER FIRST KIND OF, UM, FEW MONTHS I THINK, REALLY IN, IN THE DEPARTMENT. UM, I KNOW WE'RE NOT RE I GUESS, FUNDING ANY NEW POSITIONS, UH, THIS CYCLE, BUT IF YOU, UH, AND YOUR OFFICE CAN WORK WITH HER, I KNOW THE COURT STILL HAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, UM, THE ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES, THE RESOURCES BETWEEN PD AND THE MAC. UM, AND, AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE TO HER TO COME BACK MAYBE WITH SOME PLAN, STAFFING PLAN. I THINK, UH, IT'D BE WORTH NOT JUST A LISTEN, BUT A CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THOSE NEEDS MIGHT BE. ABSOLUTELY. UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY CHANGES HERE, UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO TO MENTION THAT. UM, THE OTHER THING, UM, DAVID, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE LEGISLATURE MAY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF COURTS, OR THERE WILL BE A REQUEST FROM, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE TO MAYBE ADD SOME ADDITIONAL DISTRICT COURTS AND COUNTY COURTS. I KNOW THAT IS NOT CONTEMPLATED IN, IN THIS FUNDING. UH, OR IS IT IT IS. OKAY. WE BUDGETED FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL COURTS, ASSUMING THEY WEREN'T EFFECTIVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST OF NEXT YEAR. OKAY. UM, THAT IS UNDER, IT'S IN NON-DEPARTMENTAL. OH, NON-DEPARTMENTAL. IT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. GOTCHA. OKAY. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BEING MODIFIED BY THIS MEMO. SO IS IT, IS IT CATEGORIZED AS CONTINGENCY THEN? YES. OKAY. UM, AND I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME THEN THAT, I CAN'T REMEMBER. I TRY TO ERASE THOSE YEARS OF MY LIFE, BUT IN THE LEGISLATURE, , I THINK THEY MAKE THOSE EFFECTIVE. JANUARY. I KNOW ALL, A LOT OF THE NEW LAWS ARE EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER ONE, BUT I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE, BUT I GUESS IT'S TBD. YEAH. SO IF IT IS, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU WON'T SPEND THAT MONEY STARTING IN SEPTEMBER AND WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS IT IN THE NEXT BUDGET. OKAY. GOT IT. UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, TANYA, I KNOW WE, THERE WAS SOME CHANGES THERE AND I SAW THE SHERIFF WAS HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, UH, THERE WAS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, COMPARED TO WHAT, I THINK THE, THERE IS A RANGE, RIGHT? I KNOW THEY HAD REQUESTED, INITIALLY IT WAS 60 SOMETHING, UH, NEW POSITIONS. I THINK THAT, UH, BUDGET INITIALLY WERE RECOMMENDING, I THINK IT WAS AROUND 24 OR 25. 30 25. SO WE DID KIND OF LAND SOMEWHERE, LAW ENFORCEMENT. LAW ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT. SO I THINK WE LANDED SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, CLOSER TO 40 OR 41 TOTAL. MM-HMM. LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE IN, UM, I APPRECIATE THE SHERIFF AND HIS TEAM, UH, WORKING ON THAT. SHERIFF, I DON'T KNOW IF [01:30:01] YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT, BUT I KNOW WE WORKED ON, ON TRYING TO GET TO A NUMBER. AGAIN, NOT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY ON THIS, BUT, BUT I THINK WE TRIED TO WORK ON A NUMBER THAT EVERYBODY COULD LIVE WITH ACKNOWLEDGING THE GROWTH OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY, THE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND SO I THINK WE ENDED UP SOMEWHERE AROUND, UH, 40 41 U LAW ENFORCEMENT POSITIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT. OH, NO. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UH, WELL, BELIEVE ME, WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE 41 POSITIONS. UH, SUPER HAPPY THAT WE CAN, UH, EXPAND OUT INTO SOME NEW PATROL DISTRICTS AND, AND REALLY GET THOSE FILLED OUT. RIGHT NOW, UH, RECRUITMENT AND AND RETENTION ARE BOTH ON THE UPSWING. AND SO I, I HAVE ALL THE FAITH IN THE WORLD. WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS VERY QUICKLY. AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY GET THOSE PEOPLE THROUGH TRAINING AND OUT ONTO THE STREETS. UH, WE DO NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT PATROL CARS AT SOME POINT SOON. WE ARE RUNNING SHORT ON PATROL CARS TO, TO, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE, ALL THE NEW, UH, DEPUTIES HITTING THE STREETS. UM, AND THERE'S ALSO THE, THE, A MATTER OF SOME INFORMATION WORKERS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BUT OVERALL, WE'RE, WE'RE SUPER STOKED TO HAVE THESE 41 POSITIONS FOR NOW. GREAT. UM, AND, AND I'M SURE THANK YOU. STAFF WILL LOOK AT THOSE, UH, I KNOW FLEET IS A, IS A BIG ISSUE WITH NOT JUST YOUR OFFICE, BUT ALL OVER. SURE. UM, AND I WANT TO THANK, UH, CHIEF SERATO AND CHIEF GARZA. I KNOW WE, WE HAD A FEW MEETINGS LAST WEEK AND APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR, THEIR TIME AS WELL. UM, JUDGE, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES MAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE THE PROPOSED BERK COUNTY FISCAL YEAR 24 25 OPERATING CAPITAL BUDGET AS DOCUMENTED IN THE MEMO MEMORANDUM FROM THE BUDGET OFFICER DATED SEPTEMBER 9TH, SECOND 24 SECOND. CAN I QUESTIONS? THERE'S MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY FLORES. LET'S CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS. I HAVE A QUESTIONS SINCE I SECOND CLAY FLORES. GO AHEAD. UM, SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE JUST PASSED FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ARE 41. IS THAT JUST FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR DOES THAT, DOES THAT INCLUDE ALSO THE TWO CA UM, LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS? NO, IT'S JUST THE, THE UNIFORMED POSITIONS. OKAY. SO UNIFORMED POSITIONS IS 41. AND HOW MANY TOTAL FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DO WE, UM, LIKE THE GRAND TOTAL OF NEW STAFF? OF NEW STAFF? WELL, SO IT'LL BE 41, THE TWO LPCS, UH, THE FIVE DETENTION OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE IN CONTINGENCIES, THOSE AREN'T AUTHORIZED PENDING FILLING THE POSITIONS. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, ONE SMART LIEUTENANT THAT WE'RE FUNDING IN CONTINGENCIES. AND THEN I THINK THERE'S HOW MANY OFFICERS? TWO FOR SMART, TWO FOR SMART AS WELL. SO SOMEONE ADD THAT UP. WHAT'S THE NUMBER? SO 41, 43, 4 45, 44 UNIFORMED OFFICERS. BUT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE ARE APPROVING FOR THIS, IF YOU GIVE US A MOMENT, I CAN GET THE TOTAL AMOUNT. I CAN'T THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PROPOSED FOR CIVILIAN. YOU CAN GIVE THAT NUMBER. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. FOR THE RECORD, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE TO TAKE TWO SECOND SOUNDBITES OUT OF WHAT I SAY FOR THE RECORD, I WANTED TO BE CLEAR, UM, THAT WE JUST PASSED 41 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AND I ESPECIALLY WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE TWO, UM, LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS. I JUST THINK THAT'S SO VERY IMPORTANT. SO I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOUR EMPLOYEES, YOUR STAFF, WHETHER THEY'RE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR, UM, AT THE JAIL OR CLERKS OR WHOEVER TO REALLY USE THEM. UM, AND WORKING WITH THE PSYCHOLOGIST, NO, YOU HAVE A PSYCHIATRIST, PSYCHOLOGIST. PSYCHOLOGIST. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THAT, UM, I HOPE THAT YOUR STAFF DO THAT AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AND DID I HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT OTHER THINGS IN THE BUDGET? DO WE WANNA FINISH WITH THE SHERIFF? WELL, LET ME, YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR TANYA. GO AHEAD. BUT SINCE THE SHERIFF'S HERE, DO MY COLLEAGUES HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFFS BEFORE THEY COME BACK TO ME FOR THE REST OF THE BUDGET? MR. MOODY? YEAH, I'LL JUST, SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. ONLY THING HERE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, GUESS IT WAS LAST WEEK WAS AROUND THE STOP PROGRAM VERSUS THE PATROL NUMBERS. AND I KNOW AS IT'S WRITTEN IN HERE, I THINK IT'S 24 AND THEN SIX, I HAD SUGGESTED, AND I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT OVER THE LAST WEEK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REINFORCING STOP VERSUS ALL THOSE NUMBERS IN PATROL. I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR TAKE AND FEEDBACK ON WHY THE BREAKDOWN AND, AND WHY WE'RE ONLY PUTTING SIX IN STOP. BECAUSE AGAIN, IN MY MIND, IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD, IT SEEMS LIKE STOP WOULD BE A MORE PRODUCTIVE USE OF THOSE FIRST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF 12 IN ORDER TO GET THOSE REPEAT OFFENDERS AND STUFF OFF THE STREET. SURE. UH, WELL, THE, THE INITIAL, UH, PROPOSAL, UH, WAS TO ADD 12 TO THE STOP TEAM. MM-HMM. . UH, BUT WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE SIX, WANTING TO PUT MORE, MORE, UH, BOOTS ON THE GROUND ON PATROL, [01:35:01] UH, WE, WE, WE SHRUNK THAT AS DOWN TO SIX. UH, REASON BEING IS 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA COMBINE THOSE WITH OUR CURRENT FUGITIVE APPREHENSION UNIT THAT'S THERE. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S A TOTAL OF 12 BODIES. SO BETWEEN THOSE 18, THAT SHOULD GIVE US TWO TEAMS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY EIGHT TO NINE WITH, WITH AN ADEQUATE NUMBER OF SUPERVISORS IN THERE. AND THAT'S WHO WILL BE GOING AFTER OUR ALL OUR VIOLENT FUGITIVES. NOW, WE HAVE AT ANY GIVEN TIME, AND, AND I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, SHOOTING FROM THE HIP ON, ON THE NUMBER RIGHT NOW, BUT AT LAST COUNT, THE NUMBER OF OF WANTED FOLKS IN, IN BEAR COUNTY OUTSTANDING WARRANTS WAS ABOUT 30,000. UH, BUT ADDITIONALLY, WE, SINCE WE HAVE A, A POLICY HERE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES FROM OVERNIGHT, WE ACTUALLY WALK WARRANTS ON THOSE. SO EVERY MORNING WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO 10, SOMETIMES EVEN 12 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE THAT. NOW, THE FUGITIVE APPREHENSION UNIT SOON TO BE THE STOP TEAM WILL BE OUT LOOKING FOR LAST NIGHT'S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ABUSERS, IN ADDITION TO THE 30,000 WORKING, CHIPPING, UH, CHIPPING AWAY THE 30,000 WARRANTS THAT WE HAVE OUTSTANDING AT ANY GIVEN TIME. CERTAINLY GIVING PREFERENCE TO THOSE THAT ARE VIOLENT FELONS, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST. UH, BUT THEN ADDITIONALLY, ON TOP OF THAT, UH, ALWAYS KEEPING A RUNNING LIST OF THE SHERIFF'S TOP OFFENDERS, HENCE THE WORDS SHERIFF'S TOP OFFENDER PROGRAM. UH, AGAIN, THAT WILL BE A, A, THE, THE TOP WANTED, UH, FELONS. UH, AND THAT, THAT LIST, I'M GUESSING, WILL GO ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO UPWARDS OF 20 PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND AS SOMEBODY GETS ARRESTED, THEY, THEY DROP OFF THE LIST AND WE ADD ANOTHER ONE TO THE MIX. SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF THEM, PLENTY FOR THEM, FOR THEM TO DO, UH, OUR ASK. AND I'M, I'M, I'M TELEGRAPHING THE MOVE, SO NEXT YEAR, WE'LL, WE'LL PRO MOST LIKELY LOOK TO EXPAND THAT UNITY EVEN FURTHER. BUT FOR NOW, WITH THAT CURRENT FAU MORPHING INTO, WITH THOSE SIX NEW POSITIONS MORPHING INTO THE STOP TEAM, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A, A REALLY, UH, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPACTFUL AS FAR AS REDUCING VIOLENT CRIME. GOOD. I MEAN, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE. SURE. AND, UM, THAT MAKES SENSE. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSOLIDATING WITH THE FUGITIVE APPREHENSION UNIT, THE, UM, WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO CONTINUE TO GET UPDATES ON THAT. YES, SIR. AS FAR AS HOW THAT NEW TEAM IS DOING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DATA AND REPORTS, YOU KNOW, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME ON WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN SEE SOME GOOD RESULTS HERE AND GET SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS OFF THE STREET. THAT, UH, IS ALL I HAVE ON, ON THE SHERIFF'S, UH, ASK ANY OTHER QUESTION, COMMENTS WITH THE SHERIFF? YEAH, I'VE GOT SOME. COMMISSIONER CALVERT. THANK YOU, JUDGE. UM, I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK, IS THE WEEKEND APPROPRIATION OF STAFF THERE FOR YOUR SMART MENTAL HEALTH GROUP? IS THAT FULLY COVERED NOW? SO THAT WE'LL HAVE WEEKEND SHIFTS AVAILABLE? YES, SIR. WITH THE ADDITION OF THE TWO POSITIONS FOR SMART, THE INTENTION IS TO MAKE IT SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK. OKAY. UM, ONCE APPROVED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE, UH, HIRES, UH, AS SOON AS OCTOBER 1ST. UH, GREAT. OKAY. UH, YOU STILL HAVING HIRING ISSUES THERE FOR, FOR THE SMART OR FOR YEAH, IN THE SMART, THERE WERE SOME VACANCIES. SO, UH, IN THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH THEM LAST WEEK, UH, STRAC IS READY ON THEIR SIDE WITH THE CLINICIANS AND THE PARAMEDICS. UM, THEY'RE WAITING FOR US TO COME UP WITH THE NEXT POSITION, SO WE'LL BE READY TO GO PRETTY QUICK. OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY. UH, GOING BACK TO THE, UH, MEDICAL EXAMINER. IS ANYONE FROM THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE HERE? THEY'RE NOT HERE. OKAY. WELL LET SURE. SURE. COME ON BACK. I GOT A QUESTION OR A COMMENT. IS THERE, UNDERSTOOD. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? GO? NO, GO AHEAD. AND THEN I'LL LIKE TO ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS. SO SHERIFF, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE MAKING, THE COURT IS MAKING ANOTHER BIG COMMITMENT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, AND I WANT TO APPLAUD YOUR, YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT. UH, IT APPEARS THAT Y'ALL ARE VERY GOOD ABOUT CATCHING THE BAD GUYS, SO TO SPEAK, AND, UH, ESPECIALLY VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND OBVIOUSLY THE STOP PROGRAM. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS STOP. WHAT DOES STOP STAND FOR? THE STOP PROGRAM JUDGE WAS BORN OF THE A IN THE AFTERMATH OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE WERE HAVING JOINTLY THAT YOU AND, AND, UH, UH, MAYOR NUREMBERG, UH, CO-CHAIRED THAT, THAT COMMITTEE, THAT WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, THAT WE BROUGHT ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS. YES, SIR. WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A GAP, SO TO SPEAK, YOU ABSOLUTELY. YOU ASKED ME TO ADDRESS IT, AND YOU ASKED ME TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW AND INNOVATIVE. AND SO TOGETHER, YOU AND I CAME UP WITH THE STOP TEAM, THE SHERIFF'S TOP OFFENDER PROGRAM, WHICH WILL BE A UNIT THAT THEIR SOLE PURPOSE IS TO, UH, REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME BY TARGETING THAT SMALL PERCENTAGE OF CRIMINALS THAT COMMITS A, A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR, OF OUR CRIME AT ANY GIVEN TIME. UH, THEY'RE GONNA OPERATE, UH, JOINTLY UNIFORM UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL UNIFORM TACTICS, BUT ALSO PLAIN CLOTHES. THERE'LL BE A, A SIZABLE PLAIN CLOSE CONTINGENT, UH, TO THE GROUP. [01:40:01] AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED. YOU KNOW, WE, WE KNEW THAT, THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT WITH ALL, WITH NEW POSITIONS. SO THE GOAL IS TO COMBINE THEM WITH OUR EXISTING FUGITIVE APPREHENSION UNIT THAT DOES WORK ALONG THOSE LINES. THIS WILL NOW BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT, AND IT'LL BE REBRANDED AS A NEW EXPANDED UNIT CALLED THE STOP TEAM, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN LOOKING FOR THOSE VIOLENT OFFENDERS. YES, SIR. THIS PUTS A FOCUS AND A SPECIALIZED UNIT THAT WILL REALLY THEN HOPEFULLY, UH, BE MORE EFFECTIVE. ABSOLUTELY. GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS, IT'LL BE SOMETHING NEW, INNOVATIVE, AND DEFINITELY EFFECTIVE. AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE SMART, WHAT DOES SMART STAND FOR? THE SMART, UH, SMART STANDS FOR SPECIALIZED MULTIDISCIPLINARY ALTERNATE RESPONSE TEAM. IT IS A, UH, MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM COMPRISED OF DEPUTIES, UH, FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT ARE ALREADY THEIR MENTAL HEALTH DEPUTY. SO THEY'RE ALREADY AHEAD OF THE, AHEAD OF THE CURVE, UH, AS OPPOSED TO THE AVERAGE DEPUTY. THEY'VE GOT MORE, UH, ROBUST TRAINING AND, AND EQUIPMENT, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, TO DEAL WITH, WITH MENTAL, WITH PEOPLE IN MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. UH, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH THROUGH STRAC, OPERATED THROUGH STRAC, BUT WE PARTNER THAT THOSE, THOSE MENTAL HEALTH DEPUTIES WITH PARAMEDICS, UH, FROM ACADIAN AMBULANCE SERVICE, AS WELL AS, UH, MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS FROM CENTER FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES. UH, SO THAT, THAT IT TRULY IS A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM OF AT LEAST SOMETIMES FOUR PEOPLE. UH, THE TEAM OPERATES, UH, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVELY, UH, MANY TIMES THEY'RE OUT JUMPING CALLS. SO, IN OTHER WORDS, A CALL THAT MAY COME INTO PATROL, WHERE WE'D TYPICALLY BE SENDING A, A PATROL OFFICER, A PATROL DEPUTY, IF WE SUSPECT THAT IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CALL, THE SMART TEAM WILL JUMP THAT CALL, TAKE OVER IT, AND TAKE A MORE, A, A DIFFERENT APPROACH. THE HENCE THE ALTERNATE RESPONSE, UH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TAKE A SOFTER APPROACH. UH, SO THE, ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THE SMART TEAM IS THAT THEY DON'T WEAR A UNIFORM, WELL, THEY DON'T WEAR A POLICE UNIFORM. UH, THEY WEAR A, A VERY SOFT UNIFORM, SO KHAKI PANTS AND A GREEN TYPE SHIRT THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY POLICE LOGOS ON IT. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE, THE, TO THE UNTRAINED EYE, THE PARAMEDIC LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE COPS LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE, LIKE THE, UH, THE CLINICIAN FROM CENTER FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES, UH, AND THEY ALL GO BY FIRST NAME. SO IT'S NOT, HELLO, MY DEPUTY, MY NAME IS DEPUTY SMITH. I'M HERE TO HELP. IT'S, HI, MY NAME'S RON. HOW CAN I HELP YOU OUT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY? BETWEEN THE THREE OF THEM, THE, THE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE THERE, THEY WILL ASSESS WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS. IF IT'S A TRUE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, EPISODE, OBVIOUSLY THE CLINICIAN AND THE DEPUTY MAY TAKE, UH, THE, OR THE CLINICIAN MAY TAKE THE LEAD WITH THE DEPUTY THERE PROVIDING COVER IN THE EVENT THAT IT DOES GO SOUTH. UH, IF IT'S A, A MEDICAL EPISODE SUCH AS A DIABETIC EPISODE, THEN OF COURSE THE, THE PARAMEDIC WILL TAKE THE MORE ACTIVE ROLE. UH, BUT THEY, THE, THE, THE TEAM WORKS, WORKS BEAUTIFULLY. UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY SEAMLESS TRANSITION AND IT'S, IT'S DONE, UH, WITH THE GOAL OF REDUCING USES OF FORCE, UH, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE DIVERTED, PEOPLE THAT WOULD'VE, WOULD'VE TYPICALLY ENDED UP IN THE JAIL SYSTEM. WHEREAS WE KNOW THEY GET CAUGHT UP IN THE, IN THE WASH, IN THE, IN THE JAIL SYSTEM, UH, DIVERT THEM TO SERVICES IN ORDER TO, TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITHOUT OVER-RELYING ON OUR JAIL SYSTEM. SO YOUR DEPARTMENT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN DIFFUSING THESE VERY EXPLOSIVE SITUATIONS THAT OFTEN RESULT IN POLICE SHOOTINGS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. I, I'M PLEASED THAT, THAT, THAT I WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDING, UH, THE FOUNDERS OF THE, OF THE PROGRAM. AND, AND YES, IT'S BEEN DOING QUITE WELL SINCE THEN. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND IT A COUPLE TIMES. THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO HELP US EXPAND IT EVEN MORE WITH THE ADDITION OF A LIEUTENANT DEDICATED JUST TO THAT, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO GREAT THINGS. AND AS I RECALL, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION OF BUDGET, THE CITY CUT THE BUDGET TO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAD TO STEP UP TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM, AT LEAST THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. IS THAT NO, THAT WAS, I, I I THINK THAT WAS THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE. OH, THAT WAS THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. YEAH. SO, SO SHERIFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE TODAY'S VOTE WILL REFLECT THIS COURT'S COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. I'M SORRY, BEFORE YOU GO, UM, CHIEF GARZA, SO I KNOW THE NEW DISTRICTS THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE NOW WITH THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE JUST APPROVED FOR THE 41, UH, NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPUTIES. SO WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN PER DISTRICT AND HOW MANY ARE THERE GONNA BE PER SHIFT? SO, UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE NEW STAFF, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT EVERY PATROL DISTRICT NOW GOING INCREASING FROM 30 TO ROUGHLY 40 DEPUTIES PER SHIFT, WHICH MEANS WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD TWO MORE DISTRICTS TO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING TO ADD THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO THE DISTRICTS IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF PRECINCT ONE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE SMALLER? YES. THE ONES YOU HAD PRESENTED TO, TO MY OFFICE, YES. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, SHERIFF. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO INTO SOME OTHER QUESTIONS NOW, SO THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, MY CONSTABLE, [01:45:01] UM, CONSTABLE DEHE AND HIS CHIEF SAL ARE HERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS IS CLEAR TO THEM. UM, BECAUSE CONSTABLE TEJEDA SAID THAT HE DIDN'T GET ANY KIND OF COMMUNICATION BASED ON WHAT BUDGET WAS GOING TO DO. SO THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT CAN BE CONFUSING. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS CLEAR IF WE GO BACK, BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT YOU'RE REMOVING, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT NECESSARILY REMOVING, IT'S JUST MAKING THE POSITION INTO CAPTAIN, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY REQUESTED. CORRECT. SO IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH AND EXPLAIN THAT, UM, FOR, FOR THE BENEFIT OF, UM, MY CONSTABLE AND THEN HIS CHIEF, WERE HERE, PLEASE. ABSOLUTELY. UH, COMMISSIONER. SO, UM, WHAT WE DID IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS WE PROPOSED TO DELETE TWO, UH, DEPUTY CONSTABLES TO CREATE TWO LEAD DEPUTY CONSTABLES. IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE REMOVING THAT PROGRAM CHANGE. WE'RE REAUTHORIZING ONE OF THOSE TWO DEPUTY CONSTABLES, AND THEN WE'RE CHANGING ONE OF THOSE, THE SECOND DEPUTY CONSTABLE TO A CAPTAIN. OKAY. AND THEN WITH THE CAPTAIN, THE CAPTAIN'S ALSO RECEIVING A HIGHER SALARY. IT'LL BE AT A GRADE OF EAST SEVEN. SO YES, IT WOULD BE HIGHER SALARY THAN THE, THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS AT LEAST CLEAR FOR, UM, TO RESPECT THEIR TIME THAT THEY CAME HERE. SO, OKAY. THANK YOU CONSTABLE JEEVA AND, UM, SAL, FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. UM, MY NEXT QUESTION, GOING DOWN TO CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO, UM, WE AUTHORIZED, UM, THE UNIFORM AUTO ALLOWANCE ALLOWANCES FOR 65 INVESTIGATORS AT $420 ANNUALLY. UM, AND THE SECOND CHANGE IS WE'RE DOING A SALARY ADJUSTMENT FOR 53 FIRST CHAIR POSITIONS, ALSO KNOWN AS PROSECUTOR FIVES, AND ALSO AS A DEEP CHECK, A DEPUTY CHIEF MIS MISDEMEANOR POSITION AND AN ETHICAL DISCLOSURE UNIT DIRECTOR POSITION. SO IT'S JUST DOING SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR THOSE LISTED POSITIONS. SO IT'S JUST SALARY ADJUSTMENTS? CORRECT. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT ADDING MORE POSITIONS. THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONER. WE'RE NOT ADDING MORE. OKAY. AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE IT'S AT THE SAME THING? YES, THAT'S WITH THE SECOND ONE THAT I MENTIONED FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM, , UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE FUNDING UNDER THE CHILD WE WELFARE BOARD? YES. SO THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE ALLOCATED ONE POINT, UM, $1 MILLION, ONE MORE, $1.2 MILLION. AND WE ESTIMATED THAT IN THE FISCAL YEAR 24 CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO EXECUTE THAT. AND SO WHAT WE'RE SIMPLY DOING IS JUST REDUCING THAT ESTIMATE AND CARRYING IT OVER TO NEXT YEAR SO THEY CAN MAKE THE PAYMENT. SO THE MONEY WAS THERE AND THEY JUST DIDN'T USE IT. SO YOU'RE CORRECT, WE'RE CARRYING IT OVER INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO USE THAT? I WOULD HAVE TO ASK ECD ON THAT MATTER. I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, UNDER FACILITIES MANAGEMENT, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ADDING SOME FUNDING FOR THE PRINT SHOP. IS DAN HERE? I THINK I SAW HIM IN THE, YEAH, I'M, SO DAN, I KNOW WE'RE ADDING SOME MONEY FOR THE PRINT SHOP, AND I JUST WANNA GIVE OUT A SHOUT OUT TO THE PRINT SHOP FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND THE GOOD, UM, PRINTING THEY DO FOR, FOR OUR ENTIRE COUNTY. AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH, UM, MACHINES THESE ARE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE ARE LIKE SPIRALED NOTEBOOKS AND THINGS, AND I'VE GONE THERE A FEW TIMES AND WAS TALKING TO 'EM ABOUT THINGS AND THEY LITERALLY DID IT MANUALLY WITH THEIR HANDS. SO DO THEY HAVE THAT MACHINE WORKING OR IS THAT, UH, YEAH, SO SOMETIMES IT'S FASTER TO HAND COIL THOSE BOOKS ACTUALLY IN A, IN A PRESS THAN ACTUALLY USING A MACHINE. UH, BUT THEY DO HAVE A MACHINE TO DO THAT, AND IT'S WORKING AND FUNDED. YEAH. YEAH. SO THE, THE ONLY, UH, MACHINE THAT WASN'T WORKING FOR US WHEN, WHEN YOU VISITED WAS OUR PLOTTER. OKAY. THAT'S BEEN, UH, UH, DELIVERED AND INSTALLED. SO THAT'S UP AND RUNNING. AND THEN THIS, UH, AUTHOR, PROGRAMMABLE PAPER CUTTER WILL GO A LONG WAY TO HELP EARN OUR PRODUCTIVITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. TANYA TALKED ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. OKAY. NO, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND YOUR, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AND FOR YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FOR BEING HERE, UM, THROUGH NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR WALKING US THROUGH THIS. UH, HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN, UM, I'LL MAKE SOME MORE COMMENTS HERE. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE, THE CRIME LAB, UH, CHANGE MEMO AND, AND THE FUNDING THERE. I THINK THAT'S A, UH, A GOOD CHANGE TO SEE. I'M ALSO GLAD THAT WE GOT THE, UM, THE YOUTH DIVERSION COORDINATORS FOR OUR JPS UP TO THE, [01:50:01] UH, THE ANY FOUR LEVEL. UM, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE CIVIL DISTRICT COURTS, THE 240,000, SO THAT WAS PART OF A GRANT PROGRAM PREVIOUSLY. WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT SIT TODAY? HAVE WE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING OR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT A POSSIBILITY GOING FORWARD FROM, I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE END OF THE GRANT FUNDING, SO THEY NEED TO CARRY IT OVER INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM. I UNDERSTAND. I GUESS I'M JUST TAKING THAT A LITTLE FURTHER TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A COUNTY, AND I'M SURE THIS ISN'T THE ONLY PLACE, BUT AS THESE GRANTS EXPIRE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ACTIVELY PURSUING ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING AND OTHER GRANTS? TYPICALLY, YES. UM, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SPECIALTY COURTS, THERE'S, UH, THEY TYPICALLY REAPPLY FOR GRANTS. I THINK THIS ONE, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO RECEIVE IT. UM, I DON'T KNOW THE CO THE, HOW THE SAMHSA GRANT WORKS, UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, TYPICALLY THE CHILDREN'S COURT MANAGES THAT GRANT DIRECTLY. UH, BUT FROM, I UNDERSTAND THEY RAN OUT OF FUNDING. THEY HAD SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FUNDING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. OKAY. AND IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TODAY IN COURT THAT REPRESENTS THOSE COURTS? NO, I DON'T SEE ANYONE. WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO CONTINUE TO KIND OF LEAN ON THAT, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT GRANTS IN THE PAST, AND OBVIOUSLY A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY IF WE CAN TAKE THAT OFF OF OUR BOOKS AND UTILIZE GRANT FUNDING. SO JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT ON EVERYONE'S RADAR. UM, THE FIRST ITEM UNDER THE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THE UNIFORM ALLOWANCE, THAT'S EVERY YEAR? CORRECT. OKAY. I WAS JUST SURPRISED BY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE MILITARY YOU KIND OF GET A ONE-TIME PAY ALLOWANCE, UNIFORM ALLOWANCE. MM-HMM. . BUT IT'S NOT A RECURRING ANNUAL, UH, FEE. HAS IT ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY? TYPICALLY, YES. ONCE THEY, UH, AUTHORIZE UNIFORM ALLOWANCE, UH, COUNTYWIDE, THEY'LL RECEIVE THAT ANNUALLY. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT. UM, SO THE, THE AREA I'D LIKE TO FOCUS A LITTLE MORE TIME ON HERE THOUGH, IS ON THE, UH, THE CONSTABLES. UM, I KNOW, I THINK WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE, UH, CONSTABLES AND SOME REPRESENTATIVES IN THE HOUSE, BUT I KNOW THERE HAD BEEN, UH, DIFFERENT REQUESTS THAT CAME FROM THE DIFFERENT PRECINCTS, CORRECT? CORRECT. DO YOU KNOW THE TOTAL NUMBER THAT WERE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED? OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T KNOW. I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT NUMBER. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DEPUTIES. BUT IT VARIED ACROSS FIVE, CORRECT? SOME, SOME WERE ASKING FOR 10, UH, OTHERS WERE ASKING FOR FIVE. SO IT VARIED BY PRECINCT. OKAY. ALL, ALL FOUR OR FIVE AT THE WORK SESSION? YEAH. COULD YOU, AT THE WORK SESSION, THEY WERE ASKING FOR FIVE MORE? THAT'S CORRECT. BUT INITIALLY IT WAS A DIFFERENT AMOUNT. OKAY. AND WE'RE, WE'RE IN THIS PROPOSAL ONLY ADDING ONE ADDITIONAL DEPUTY PER PRECINCT? CORRECT. SO IT'D BE A TOTAL OF THREE THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE BUDGET FOR TOMORROW? YEAH. SO IN, IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT, THAT I HAD AND FROM COURT LAST WEEK, UM, I THINK THERE'S SERIOUS OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE PRECINCTS AND A NEED WITHIN THE PRECINCTS. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THESE WARRANT OFFICERS, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, I COULD MAYBE DEFER TO, UH, ONE OF OUR CONSTABLES OR BOTH OF OUR CONSTABLES IN THE BACK IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK FORWARD. AND I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NET IMPACT ON BUDGET FROM DIFFERENT OFFICER POSITIONS. I'M NOT GONNA GET BACK INTO THAT, BUT I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A, A SMALL NET IMPACT, UH, VERSUS THE OVERALL, UH, COST OF THE, UH, THE PERSONNEL. BUT CAN WE ALSO CIRCLE BACK ON THE WARRANTS? BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HEARS IT AGAIN, ABOUT HOW MANY, UH, WARRANTS ARE OUTSTANDING AB WARRANTS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT, THAT THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT SITTING OUT THERE AND, AND NO ONE'S TOUCHING THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY'RE SITTING OUT THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, UH, GOING BACK TO COURT REPORT. YES. YEARS, YEARS AGO, I HAD CREATED TWO OFFICERS IN THE AFTERNOON, TWO IN THE, DURING THE DAY. AND WE WERE PROVIDED TWO CLERKS, ONE FULL-TIME, ONE PART-TIME. AT THAT TIME, WE HAD TO SCAN ALL THE WARRANTS BECAUSE THEY WERE REAL OLD WARRANTS. SO THEY HAD TO SCAN THEM, ISSUE 'EM OUT, AND WE WOULD WORK THOSE. UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE JP COURTS CONTINUED TO ISSUE OUT WARRANTS ALSO. SO I DEVELOPED SENDING CARDS, MAKING PHONE CALLS, GOING DOOR [01:55:01] TO DOOR, AND THEN AT THE END, WE WOULD HAVE ROUNDUPS AND WE WOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY 60 INDIVIDUALS TO THE COURT, AND THE JUDGE COULD DECIDE ON WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO DO WITH THE FINES AND, AND ALL THAT. BUT THERE WAS A ISSUE WHERE THEY WERE SOME, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT THE LINEBERGER LETTER WAS MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE THEY WERE CONTACTING SUPPOSEDLY THE OLD WARRANTS. BUT SEE, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, EVERY, EVERY 10 YEARS, THEY CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES. SO YOU STILL HAVE, LIKE IN, I HAVE PRECINCT ONE WARRANTS IN PRECINCT TWO. PRECINCT TWO HAS WARRANTS IN PRECINCT ONE. SO THEY OVERLAP, BUT WE CAN WORK ON THEM. BUT AT ONE TIME, THEY STOPPED TAKING ALL CLASS C MISDEMEANORS AT THE JAIL. SO WE HAD TO DEVELOP SOMETHING ELSE. SO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED TAKING THEM TO THE JP COURT. BUT THE VOLUME OF WORK IS THERE. PRETTY MUCH EVERY CONSTABLE'S OFFICE PAYS FOR THEIR OWN BUDGET AND ADDITION TO THAT BRINGS EXTRA REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU PROVIDE US EXTRA OFFICERS, THEY WILL PAY FOR THEMSELVES. UH, THE AMOUNT OF WORK IS THERE, BUT IT, IT'S ALL WHAT IT COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY JUDGE WHAT Y'ALL DECIDE WHAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTY. SO LIKE YOU SAY, THERE'S MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE EXISTING WARRANTS, AND THEN THEY, SOMETIMES THEY ALSO HAVE CLASS A B, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE FELONY WARRANTS AND TRAFFIC WARRANTS. SO THERE'S A MIXTURE THERE. YEAH. SO IF THEY DO HAVE, I THINK IF, IF THE COUNTY WOULD DEVELOP A SYSTEM TO WHERE YOU COULD TAKE THE CLASS C MISDEMEANORS AND EXPEDITE EVERYTHING, IT WOULD BE GOOD. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THEY HAVE A FELONY, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS A MISDEMEANOR AT A JP COURT? HOW ARE THEY GONNA RESOLVE THAT? TH THIS GUY'S GONNA BE AT THE JAIL, OR IS THAT INDIVIDUAL GONNA BE TAKEN TO THE JP COURT TRANSPORTED OVER THERE SO HE CAN PLEA? I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE. THERE'S THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF WARRANTS THAT ARE JUST SITTING THERE. YEAH. SO, UM, AND MARK CAN, CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIDE AND, AND ALL THAT. 'CAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE WARRANTS THAT ARE COMING IN ARE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THEY, ONCE AGAIN, THEY DECIDED NOT TO TAKE IN CLASS C MISDEMEANORS TO, TO EXPEDITE OR COLLECT OR WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO DO FOR THOSE FINES THAT THEY'RE GETTING. MM-HMM. . SO, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF SYSTEM CREATED FOR ALL THAT. I UNDERSTAND, CONSTABLE . I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK YOU'RE QUESTIONING WAS ON THE CLASS AB WARRANTS, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 16,000 OF THOSE WARRANTS. THEY'RE NOT HIGH PRIORITIES FOR OTHER ENTITIES. THEY'RE SWAMPED WITH THE FELONIES OR THE HIGH PROFILE FELONY CASES, REPEAT OFFENDERS AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO THESE AB WARRANTS ARE TYPICALLY VERY MUCH CONSIDERED, MOSTLY OF, UH, FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE STRANGULATION. YOU'D THINK THAT'S A FELONY, BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR. IT WAS THE NEXT STEP TOWARDS THAT THOUGH. SO WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF, UH, FAMILY VIOLENCE CASES THAT ARE LANGUISHING, THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME THROUGH, FINALLY MADE A COMPLAINT. UH, THE INDIVIDUAL HAD A COURT DATE, DIDN'T APPLY BY IT, AND THEN THEY'RE STILL OUT RUNNING AROUND LOOSE. UH, THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO, ON THOSE VICTIMS, UH, FOR THOSE CASES. THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WE LIKE SPECIALIZING IN WAS THOSE FAMILY VIOLENCE CASES. THAT ALSO, THOUGH, GOES BACK TO ABOUT 50% OF ALL THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW CASES ARE IN FUGITIVE STATUS, WHICH MEANS UNTIL WE BRING THEM BACK BEFORE THE COURT, THE COURTS CAN'T EXERCISE JURISDICTION, BRING JUSTICE RESTITUTION AND OTHER AREAS. THE AB WARRANTS IS AN AREA THAT IS UNDERWORKED, AND WE HAD SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS PER PRECINCT DEDICATED TOWARDS THOSE WARRANTS. UH, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ABOUT $120 MILLION WORTH OF JP WARRANTS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING, UH, THAT ARE OUT THERE. NO, APPRECIATE THAT. WELL, AG AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A COMPELLING CASE, UM, BOTH IN KEEPING, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR STREETS SAFE WITH, WITH TRAFFIC OR THESE WARRANTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS BACKLOG OF WARRANTS, UH, SOME OF WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY, UM, CONCERNING THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED BY OUR, OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, EVEN [02:00:01] THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT THERE. 16,000, YOU SAID ABOUT 16,000 IS OUR AVERAGE. RIGHT. WOW. WELL, YOU KNOW, AND, AND JUST BRINGING THIS BACK TO, I KNOW LAST WEEK POST THE PROPOSED BUDGET, YOU'D COME BACK AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE PER, PER PRECINCT OR NO, SIR. NO SIR. WE IN TOTAL EACH, WERE ASKING FOR FIVE OFFICERS. WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS FROM LIKE MYSELF FROM 10 TO FIVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, SO WE COULD BE ABLE TO GET THE FIVE. YEAH. UH, WELL, AND, AND I KNOW THAT, THAT THERE'S A DESIRE FOR MORE. YES, BUT I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A, A VERY MODERATE, MODEST, UH, AMENDMENT HERE, JUDGE. I'D LIKE TO AMEND, UH, MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE ADD AN ADDITIONAL ONE DEPUTY CONSTABLE PER PRECINCT ON TOP OF THE ONE THAT'S IN THE CHANGE MEMO, AND THAT WE ALLOW THE CONSTABLES THE DECISION AND THE FLEXIBILITY TO UTILIZE THOSE, UH, DEPUTIES WHERE THEY SEE FIT. ALL RIGHT. IT'S A POINT OF ORDER. I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT IN REGARDS TO ANY AMENDMENTS ON A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, THEN THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY A MOTION. THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. IS THERE A SECOND? I JUST, I JUST HAVE A POINT OF INQUIRY. WILL THE, UH, WILL THEY BE GIVEN, UH, VEHICLE AND ALL THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, COST OF THEIR OPERATION IN YOUR AMENDMENT? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S COVERED. UH, TRUE. I'D DEFER TO COUNTY STAFF AS FAR AS WHETHER THAT'S NECESSARY OR WHETHER THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR TYPICAL ASK OR NOT. YES, CORRECT. SO IF THEY'RE GONNA BE UTILIZED, HOWEVER THE CONSTABLE WANTS TO, THEN I THINK YOU WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE THE COST OF A VEHICLE. OKAY. THEN I WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN MY MOTION. GREAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. MR. MOTION A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? UH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU CLARIFY THE MOTION AGAIN, I'M SORRY. AMENDMENT. UM, SO WITHIN THE CHANGE MEMO, THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL DEPUTY CONSTABLE THAT'S BEING ADDED FOR EACH PRECINCT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ADD ONE ADDITIONAL CONSTABLE PER PRECINCT IN ORDER TO AGAIN, TRY TO, TRY TO CONTINUE TO WORK AT THESE WARRANTS AND OR TRAFFIC AND, AND WHEREVER THE, THE NEED IS WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL PRECINCTS PROVIDING THESE CONSTABLES THE FLEXIBILITY TO CHOOSE, LIKE HOW THEY WANT TO U UTILIZE THOSE RESOURCES AND WHATEVER ADDITIONAL FUNDING'S REQUIRED IN TERMS OF VEHICLE FOR THOSE CONSTABLES. UM, AND, AND LAST WEEK THERE WAS A, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CONSTABLES PER PRECINCT. THE NUMBERS I WERE PRESENTED WERE THAT PRECINCT TWO HAD A LOWER NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAN THE OTHER PRECINCTS. IS THAT, UM, CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM THAT FOR ME, TINA? AND, AND WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I MEAN, I, I, LOOK, I, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FIX THAT TODAY. I DON'T THINK, UH, THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD DO THINGS. UH, TRY AND REMEDY THINGS LAST MINUTE. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD POLICY. SO I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA ASK FOR 10 FOR PRECINCT TWO AS OPPOSED TO FOUR FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. BUT I THINK IF THE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE AND UM, IT'S JUSTIFIED IN TERMS OF WORKLOAD, WE NEED TO WORK ON FIXING THAT AT SOME POINT. SO, UM, TINA, DO YOU HAVE THAT? YES. SO IN CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO, THERE ARE 21 DEPUTY CONSTABLES. IN PRECINCT ONE THERE ARE 26 AND ONE SECOND, LET ME JUST GET TO THE OTHER TWO. IN PRECINCT THREE, THERE ARE 23. AND THEN IN PRECINCT FOUR THERE ARE 23. OKAY. SO ACTUALLY I GUESS IN A, YEAH, I DID NOT, IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO WHERE TWO PRECINCT TWO HAS TWO FEWER THAN THE NEXT CLOSEST PRECINCT. MM-HMM, . OKAY. UH, AGAIN, I, I, I'M GONNA ASK STAFF THAT WE WORK ON THIS IN, IN THE BUDGET, UH, NOT, NOT EVEN NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, BUT IN THE INTERIM TO TRY AND ADDRESS THAT. AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA TRY AND MAKE THAT CHANGE TODAY 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AFTER ALL THESE MONTHS HAVE GONE INTO, UH, TRYING TO WRAP THIS BUDGET UP. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. THANK YOU JUDGE. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE QUESTIONS. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, UH, A REQUEST BY THE CONSTABLE FOR WHICH I RESPECT AND [02:05:01] I FULLY SUPPORTED THEIR REQUEST. NOW UNDERSTANDING WE'RE MAKING A TOUGH DECISION. IS IT, IS IT THREE, IS IT TWO, IS IT FOUR? IS IT FIVE? IS IT 10? THEN WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT EACH PARTICULAR PRECINCT, AND I RECALL IN THE BUDGET SESSIONS, THE CONSTABLES, ESPECIALLY CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO, COMMISSIONER VASQUEZ, THAT WHICH IS IN YOUR PRECINCT, REALLY MADE THE ISSUE OF HER THE FACT THAT SHE HAS LESS CONSTABLES AND THE WORKLOAD, AT LEAST FROM THE SERVICE OF PROCESS. SO I GET THE ARGUMENT FROM THE, THE, THE, THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED THROUGH THE CONSTABLE JP COURTS. MY QUESTION IS, AT THIS POINT, WHAT'S THE COST ISSUE? DO WE HAVE A COST ISSUE IN REGARDS TO THE AMENDMENT? AND THEN HOW MUCH IS IT? AND SO THEN WE'LL GO INTO FURTHER DISCUSSION. SO I NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S IT COSTING OUT TO WITH A VEHICLE TO, FOR ALL FOUR PRECINCTS, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $650,000 IN TOTAL. NOW, CAN I JUST ASK THE QUESTION? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. SO, AND I DON'T, PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY SPEAK FOR THE OTHER TWO PRECINCTS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ONE ADDITIONAL IN, UM, PERSONNEL THAT YOU'VE ADDED HERE IS 90,000 PER, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, $360,000 WITHOUT A CAR, WITHOUT A CAR, WITHOUT A VEHICLE. IF YOU ADD THE CAR, IT BRINGS THAT TOTAL LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE. ANY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT TALKING THE OLD DAYS OF A CROWN VIC, YOU'RE TALKING MORE EXPENSIVE VEHICLES. THESE, I UNDERSTAND. WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DO WE FEEL THAT'S, UH, FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TODAY? SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, AS AM I CORRECT? YES. RIGHT. AND I, I SHARED IT THIS MORNING AS WE CAME IN, BUT SO THE ADDITIONAL DEPUTY CONSTABLE THAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE AT 90,000, HOW, HOW ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF, UH, YOUR CURRENT VEHICLES? AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT VEHICLES INCLUDED IN THIS 9,000. THERE IS. THAT'S IN THE BACK. THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE FLEET ACQUISITION, EXCUSE ME, THE FLEET ACQUISITION FUND. THEY'RE NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND. OKAY. THEY'RE LATER IN THE CHANGE AMENDMENT. OKAY. MAY, MAY I SAY SOMETHING I, I'LL DEFER BACK TO YOU, JUDGE. WELL THEN LET, LET ME COME BACK. LET ME GET, UH, TANYA COME BACK IN THERE OR WHOEVER FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE. THEN I HAVE QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. I I I WANT CLARITY HERE. I GET, I GET, WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT ON WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT OPERATION IN THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. THEY HAVE MADE THEIR PLEA, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS A 10. THEY APPARENTLY HAD, HAD COME TO SOME CONSENSUS AMONG ALL FOUR THAT THEY COULD HAVE FIVE. WE GAVE THEM HOW MANY TODAY? THREE POSITIONS? YES. THREE TOTAL FOR EACH PRECINCT WITH NOT INCLUDING COMMISSIONER MOODY'S. RIGHT. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE, HOW DID BUDGET OFFICE COME TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'VE MADE TODAY, INCLUDING THE CHANGE ORDER? SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND YOUR ORIGINAL POSITION AND THEN HOW DID IT MODIFY? I WOULD ASSUME IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, OBVIOUSLY, UH, IT'S APPARENT AT LEAST WITH THESE TWO CONSTABLES, AND AGAIN, THE OTHER TWO CONSTABLES ARE NOT HERE, THAT THERE IS A DIS DISAGREEMENT AS TO WHAT IS ADEQUATE FUNDING. SO I WANT TO KNOW FROM A, FROM A ANALYSIS POINT OF VIEW, HOW Y'ALL CAME TO BE TO COME TO THIS CHANGE ORDER. ADDING ONE AND THEN THE CONS SAYING THEY NEED AN, WELL, COMMISSIONER MOODY ASKED HIM THAT WE ASK ADD ANOTHER ONE. HONESTLY, IT WAS IT AFTER THE PROPOSED BUDGET, IT WAS MY DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH MEMBER OF THE COURT FOR THE, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION OF TO ADD ONE, THE ONE. AND THEN, THEN WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT ADDED ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND, AND WEIGHTS. AND WAS THAT THROUGH AN ANALYSIS OF, OF DEBT OR IS THAT JUST, IT WAS JUST, YOU'LL RECALL THE COURT HAD ACTED PREVIOUSLY EARLIER IN THE YEAR ABOUT APPROVING THE WEIGHT FUNCTION FOR EACH PRECINCT AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING ONE PRECINCT DO IT COUNTYWIDE. AND SO WE SIMPLY REFLECTED THAT BY ADDING AN OFFICER TO DO THAT AS WELL AS AN OFFICER TO DO TRAFFIC BASED ON THE CONSTABLE'S DISCUSSIONS. AND THEN THERE WAS A BIG DISCUSSION, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL A DISPUTE OVER THE RANKING OF, I BELIEVE THE CONSTABLES WANT A DESIGNATION [02:10:01] OF A CAPTIVE LIEUTENANT. A SERGEANT. CORRECT. AND IN REGARDS TO THAT, IT WAS IN REGARDS TO THE MILITARY STYLE, UH, OR, OR PLAN OF HAVING RANK AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO MOVE UP OBVIOUSLY WITH ACCORDING PAY INCREASE. SO, UH, THE BUDGET OFFICE, AS I RECALL IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, RECOMMENDED THAT WE GIVE THEM LEAD, WHAT WAS IT? ADMINISTRATIVE, WHAT LEAD DEPUTY CONSTABLE, LEAD DEPUTY PROPOSED BUDGET. AND WE JUST COULDN'T GET ANY CONSENSUS OF WHETHER WE COULD LIVE WITH LEAD DEPUTIES OR HAVE RANKED OFFICERS. CORRECT. THERE CONSTABLES WERE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THE, THERE WAS, THEY DIDN'T KNOW OR THEY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE WHAT A LEAD DEPUTY WAS. CORRECT. SO WHAT IS, SO WHAT WAS THE COMPROMISE THAT WERE, THAT Y'ALL PROPOSED BY THE CHANGE ORDER THEN TINA? UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE THAT POSITION OF LEAD DEPUTY CONSTABLE AND INSTEAD, UH, CREATE A CAPTAIN POSITION IN EACH PRECINCT. AND WHY GIVE ME THE, OR IS THERE A JUSTIFICATION OR IS THERE, WHAT, WHAT, HOW DID BUDGET COME TO THAT OTHER THAN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COURT? UM, WE, WHEN WE MADE THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION, UM, IT WAS JUST BASED ON SPAN OF CONTROL. SO MASER MENOS, THEY HAVE 20 TO 25 CONSTABLE DEPUTY CONSTABLES. SO WE CREATED TWO LEADS. ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE SUPERVISOR FOR 10 OR 10 TO 15. AND SO WHEN, WHEN THE UM, PROPOSAL CAME OUT, THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH HOW IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED. AND SO WE JUST CAME UP WITH HOW ABOUT IF WE ADDED CAPTAIN, IT'S ONE LEVEL BELOW A CHIEF DEPUTY CONSTABLE. AND SO IT WAS JUST LIKE YOU SAID, A COMPROMISE. AND THEN IN FUTURE BUDGETS WE COULD CONSIDER ADDING ADDITIONAL RANKED OFFICERS WITHIN THE COMP. YEAH, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR SURE. WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE LIEUTENANT. CORRECT. AND THEN WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE AFTER THAT? SERGEANT, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE AFTER THAT? UH, CORPORAL. CORPORAL. CORPORAL. OKAY. SO THE RANKING PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, AT LEAST THE BUDGET OFFICE HAD INITIALLY NOT SUPPORTED, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT DESIGNATING A CAPTAIN AND THEN SEEING HOW THAT CHAIN OF COMMAND AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THE OFFICE CAN BE AFFECTED BY HAVING A CAPTAIN. OTHERWISE THERE, I'M, I'M HAVING DIFFICULT CONSTABLES OF UNDERSTANDING WHY WE COULDN'T COME TO COMPROMISE ON RANKING AND TITLES. I'LL BE REAL BLUNT. THAT'S JUST, Y'ALL ARE THE ELECTEDS. Y'ALL RUN THE SHOW. I GET IT. YOU NEED A CHAIN OF COMMAND. I'M NOT GETTING INTO THE, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO DISCUSSION ON THAT. I'M JUST SAYING THESE ARE THE THINGS, THESE THINGS NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. AND I THINK YOU'RE SEEING THAT THE BUDGET OFFICE WAS THROUGH AT LEAST MY INPUT WAS TO GET SOME TYPE OF COMPROMISE. AND SO APPARENTLY WE'RE NOT THERE YET. AND THIS LAST MINUTE IS AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO COMPROMISE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT ARE COMING ON WITHOUT HAVING SOME MORE ANALYSIS OF WHAT THAT IS. I'M NOT FORECLOSING THE ISSUES THAT WE WILL ADD MORE DEPUTIES. SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE ZERO SUM. I'M ASKING THE COURT THAT IT NOT BE ZERO SUM THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. I WILL PUT ON RECORD WITH THE PRIOR HISTORY AS IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME, IS THAT THE CONSTABLES HAVE NOT BEEN FUNDED IN THE, UH, IN A WAY THAT PERHAPS Y'ALL HAVE SHOWN US. AND I WANT TO PUT ON RECORD THAT THE CONSTABLES CAME BEFORE THE GRIEVANCE SALARY COMMITTEE AND ASKED THAT THEIR PARTICULAR SALARIES BE RECONSIDERED. AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS SET UP BY STATUTE, IN FACT GAVE THEM ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION. SO I WANT THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THIS COMMUNITY RESPECTS THE WORK OF THE CONSTABLES, BUT AS WE'RE SEEING WE'RE, I DON'T WANT TO GET STUCK OR HAVE ILL FEELINGS AFTER TODAY OF A BUDGET DECISION THAT HAS TO BE MADE. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE COMING WITH A VOTE. IT'S GONNA GET VOTED UP AND IT'S GONNA GET VOTED DOWN. AND THE QUESTION IS, DO WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER OR DO WE CONTINUE TO KIND OF COME BACK AND HAVE THESE SAME SITUATIONS, SAME DISCUSSIONS EVERY YEAR. I'M HOPING THAT AT SOME POINT, STAFF ELECTEDS CAN WORK IT OUT AND THAT WE CAN JUST MERELY GO STAMP OUR APPROVAL AND SAYING THAT'S A BUDGET THAT THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT CAN APPROVE. 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TAXPAYERS. I HOPE Y'ALL EVERYBODY CAN RECOGNIZE THE DYNAMICS TODAY. COMMISSIONER CLAY FLORES. YEAH, SO, UM, AGAIN, CONSTABLE JEEVA AND SAL, YOU ALL KNOW I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH YOUR OFFICE. YOU ALL WORKED CLOSELY WITH MY STAFF AND WITH ME, AND I'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE, UM, INCREASING YOUR BUDGET, [02:15:01] INCREASING YOUR SALARIES, AND GETTING YOU MORE MANPOWER, MORE MAN AND WOMAN POWER. UM, HOWEVER, UM, AS TO USE JUDGE AKA'S WORDS THIS LAST MINUTE, I DON'T APPRECIATE WHEN I'M NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION. UM, AND MY VOTE WILL NOT BE TAKEN FOR GRANTED. SO NO ONE TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT. UM, UM, I'D LIKE TO DO MY HOMEWORK AND UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING. AND SINCE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, UM, IF WE VOTE ON THIS, I WILL ABSTAIN. AND LET'S BE CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING. I HAVE SAID THAT I DON'T THINK EVERY PRECINCT SHOULD HAVE NECESSARILY THE SAME FUNDING FOR EACH CONSTABLE BECAUSE EVERY CONSTABLE IS A DIFFERENT ELECTED OFFICIAL AND EVERY PRECINCT IS DIFFERENT. PRECINCT ONE IS THE LARGEST GEOGRAPHIC AREA. SO FRANKLY, AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, FRANKLY, I THINK PRECINCT ONE SHOULD HAVE THE MOST NUMBER OF DEPUTY CONSTABLES AND VEHICLES TO COVER THE MILEAGE. ART REINHARDT, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, JUST GAVE A PRESENTATION, 47%, 47% GU OF THE ROADS IN BEAR COUNTY ARE IN PRECINCT ONE. SO FRANKLY, I THINK PRECINCT ONE SHOULD HAVE MORE, THE MOST AMOUNT OF DEPUTY CONSTABLES TO PATROL THOSE ROADS. BUT WE HAVE WORKED HARD ON THIS BUDGET. OUR COUNTY STAFF AND COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE IN MY OFFICE AND, UM, THE BUDGET OFFICE HAVE WORKED HARD TO CRUNCH THESE NUMBERS. SO TO DO A LAST MINUTE AMENDMENT WITHOUT, UM, ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION WITH ME IS NOT SOMETHING I CAN SUPPORT. CONSTABLE TEJEDA SAL, YOU GUYS KNOW, IT REFLECTS NOTHING ON YOU ALL. UM, AND SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGHOUT, AFTER THE BUDGET THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR TO SEE HOW THAT WE CAN BE MORE EQUITABLE IN THE NEEDS OF PRECINCT. ONE BEING THE LARGEST PRECINCT, THE LARGEST GEOGRAPHIC AREA IN 47% OF THE ROADS. THANK YOU MR. RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU, JUDGE. UM, SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR TOO, I RESPECT, I KNOW MY CONSTABLE'S NOT HERE, BUT I'VE WORKED WITH CONSTABLE TEJEDA IN THE PAST AND, AND I KNOW CONSTABLE VIC, YOU GUYS ARE JUST ADVOCATING FOR YOUR DEPARTMENTS AND I RESPECT THAT. UM, AND I I I COULDN'T EVEN ARGUE PROBABLY THAT YOU HA YOU, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. I I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UM, US HAVING TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS. UM, AND SO I WANT, I KNOW MY CONSTABLE'S NOT HERE, BUT WANTED HER TO KNOW I APPRECIATE HER WORK AND, AND I KNOW, UH, UH, HER FOLKS ARE PROBABLY WATCHING, BUT, UM, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT TODAY EITHER. BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PERFORMANCE OR, UH, THE, THE NEEDS. I THINK THAT THE EVALUATION I TALKED ABOUT, AND I PARTIALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CLAY FLO, IS I GET IT GEOGRAPHICALLY, IF WE LOOKED JUST AT GEOGRAPHICS, PRECINCT TWO SHOULD HAVE THE FEWEST. BUT IT'S NOT JUST PATROL, IT'S ALSO SERVICE A PROCESS. AND YOU, WE'VE ALL SEEN THOSE NUMBERS. UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE, UH, WE CAN SOMEHOW BALANCE THAT OUT. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT HAS TO BE EQUAL ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT IT HAS TO BE WORK RELATED IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK IS ACTUALLY BEING PROCESSED. AND, AND I KNOW YOU'RE ALL WORKING HARD, UH, BUT, UM, TO THE POINT THE JUDGE MADE, UH, THE, THE BUDGETS ARE ALWAYS ABOUT COMPROMISE AND YOU KNOW, I THINK BUDGET STARTED AT TWO, YOU CAME DOWN TO FIVE, WE LANDED ON THREE AS A RECOMMENDATION. AND, AND I'M COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TODAY, BUT I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW, UH, WE WORKED CLOSELY FOR A LONG TIME AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE NUMBERS RIGHT. AND I MAKE THAT COMMITMENT PUBLICLY TO MY CONSTABLE AS WELL BECAUSE I KNOW, UH, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE'S A DISPARITY IN NUMBERS. BUT AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL EVALUATE THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS NEXT FEW MONTHS AND I'LL WORK WITH BUDGET STAFF TO HOPEFULLY GET IT RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MARTY, UH, JUST A, A COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS HERE AND, AND JUST TO, I THINK, BE CLEAR ABOUT THE ASK, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE ORIGINAL ASKS, BUT THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED BUDGET HAD TWO ADDITIONAL CONSTABLES PER PRECINCT. I BELIEVE YOU CAME BACK WITH YOUR REQUEST AND ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE PER PRECINCT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. MM-HMM. , YES. SO THE, THE REQUEST WAS OUT THERE FOR FIVE AND, AND IN THE FINAL COUNTER OFFER OF THIS CHANGE MEMO, YOU'RE GETTING ONE. SO I, I THINK WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE NUMBERS STRAIGHT THERE. AND IF WE GO BACK TO, UH, TINA, IF YOU COULD JUST CONFIRM, YOU SAID PRECINCT ONE, HOW MANY DEPUTY CONSTABLES? ONE SECOND. OKAY. YOU SAID 26 FOR MY PRECINCT 26, CORRECT? YES. AND [02:20:01] IF YOU TAKE OUT THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN PRECINCT THREE, HOW MANY CONSTABLES DO WE HAVE? I DIDN'T INCLUDE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. YEAH, IN THAT ORIGINAL NUMBER OF, WAS IT WITHOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? I THINK YOU SAID 23. 23. YEAH. SO JUST AGAIN, PRECINCT ONE DOES HAVE THE MOST CONSTABLES. I THINK WE NEED MORE TAKE UP SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, THAT IS THE CASE TODAY. UM, FINALLY ON THE QUESTION ABOUT LAST MINUTE CHANGES, I'LL BE HONEST, I GOT THIS BINDER AT 8 55 THIS MORNING WHEN I CAME IN HERE AND SAT DOWN. AND THAT CAN BE PART OF A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE WORK THIS PROCESS IN THE FUTURE. 'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE BEING PUT IN THAT POSITION EITHER. BUT CLEARLY UNTIL I ACTUALLY HAD THE CHANGE MEMO IN HAND, I COULDN'T TALK ABOUT OFFERING AMENDMENTS AND THERE WAS NO TIME IN ORDER TO DO THAT OR SOCIALIZE THAT WITH THE REST OF MY, MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COURT. SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE CASE HAS BEEN MADE. I THINK THIS IS A VERY MODERATE, UM, MODEST, YOU KNOW, UH, COUNTER PROPOSAL AND ADDITIONAL AD. UM, I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT IT. COMMISSIONER COWARD, I JUST WANT TO RECALL THAT THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES HAVE HAD MORE CONSTABLES THAN THEY DO NOW. I MEAN, AT LEAST IN THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, YES, THERE WAS A TIME WHERE YOU HAD, UH, IN THE UPPER TWENTIES OF, UH, CONSTABLES. AND SO I'M JUST SUPPORTIVE OF AT LEAST GETTING YOU WHERE YOU WERE, I DON'T KNOW, SIX YEARS AGO. UM, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE CONSTABLES HAVE SAID THEY NEED MORE SUPPORT AND SO I THINK THIS GETS US CLOSER TO SOME VERY BASIC, UH, FUNCTIONS OF GOVERNMENT. SO, UM, THEY'VE MADE THE ARGUMENT, IT PAYS FOR ITSELF AND THAT'S VERY, I, YOU KNOW, HELPFUL, BUT YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT DIDN'T, UM, IT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT THING TO HAVE DONE, PARTICULARLY AS WE HAVE ALL THIS CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC AND, UH, GROWTH WI WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, I THINK IT IS A VERY, UH, MODEST REQUEST TO, UM, HELP OUR CONSTABLES, UH, GET BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, HALF A DECADE AGO OR SO. SO I, I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT AND, UM, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR OFFERING IT. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THEN I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY TO AMEND TO ADD A POSITION, UH, ALONG WITH THE COST THERETO. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT. I'M GONNA CALL FOR A ROLL VOTE. UH, COMMISSIONER CLAY FLORES. I ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? NO. COMMISSIONER MOODY. AYE. COMMISSIONER CALVERT COUNTY JUDGE SAYS NO WITH THE PROVISO THAT I WILL CONTINUE MY WORD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU. THIS AIN'T OVER TODAY AND IT MAY BE RESOLVED AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BUT WE GOT WORK TO DO. AND THIS IS A, I WILL SECOND COMMISSIONER MOODY'S, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON OUR BUDGET PROCESS SO THAT IT IS OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS AS TO THE DECISIONS MADE OTHER THAN WE COME TO COURT AND TRY TO COMPROMISE IN THE OPEN COURTROOM. I'M NOT GONNA ALLOW GOVERNMENT TO WORK THAT WAY. WE WILL MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE EVIDENCE, THE ARGUMENTS, AND THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS THAT THIS COURT IS CONFRONTED WITH. SO CONSTABLES, I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU. I HOPE THAT YOU CAN APPRECIATE WHAT'S BEEN DONE TODAY AND WE CAN MOVE ON. BUT THIS DISCUSSION WILL CONTINUE AND THAT'S MY PLEDGE TO Y'ALL. WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLICATED THINGS AND WE NEED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION. I AGREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CONSTABLES. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THERE IS NOW A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY FLORES. I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER CALVERT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, SO DID ANYONE COME IN FROM THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE? MEDICAL EXAMINERS? IS THAT OR DIM OR ISN'T THAT UNDER DR. LAB? GREENFIELD LTI. OKAY. WELL, THE QUESTION WAS, UH, JUST IN TERMS OF, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME BUDGET INCREASES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I RECONCILE [02:25:01] THEIR REQUESTS WITH WHAT'S OFFERED IN THE CHANGE MEMO. I CAN'T DO THAT IF THEY'RE NOT HERE. I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE PROCESS. IF YOU ARE A DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT'S REQUESTING FUNDING, YOU'LL NEED TO BE HERE, UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. UM, OKAY. UM, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT THE REJO COURT ASKED FOR, UH, FOR THIS CYCLE? I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT COMMISSIONER. OKAY. YEAH, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT. UM, SO JUST A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, TANYA, WHY DID, WHY DID WE MOVE FROM CONTINGENCIES ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DONE CONTINGENCIES IN THE PAST FOR ACCOUNTING REASONS THAT WE ALL ARE AWARE OF. IS THERE A REASON WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM THAT? UH, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION AGAIN? FOR SURE. SURE. SO IN THE PAST BUDGET WHEN IT CAME TO INCREASING THE SHERIFF'S NUMBER OF FOLKS, WE HAD BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE LEGISLATION THAT, UH, YOU COULD NEVER DECREASE FUNDING. SO THIS YEAR WE DECIDED NOT TO PUT THAT IN CONTINGENCIES. IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? YEAH, COMMISSIONER, IT WAS INPUT FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES. OKAY. SO, OKAY, WELL THE LAST INPUT I HEARD WAS, UH, ON THE DAIS, RIGHT? SO IT'S, UH, YOU'RE SAYING BEHIND THE SCENES BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T HEAR IT ON THE BIAS, BUT YEAH. PEOPLE CALLED ME. OKAY. UH, SO JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW, UM, THE SURVEY THAT YOU PUT OUT, WAS THERE ANY RESULTS ON THE TOP PRIORITIES FROM THE SURVEY? YEAH, UH, AS THE PRELIMINARY, UH, RESULTS WERE, UH, LET'S SEE, STAFF'S HERE, YOU WANT TO HELP ME? UH, I THINK IT WAS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT WAS THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND IT WAS PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN, WHAT PARTICULAR, SO COME UP HERE AND TELL ME WHAT WAS 1, 2, 3, AND TELL US HOW, WHAT WAS THE, HOW MANY RES, HOW MANY RESPONSES AFTER FOUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND BUDGET SESSIONS THAT WE HAD, UH, THAT WAS HOSTED BY ME ALONG WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN EACH PARTICULAR PRECINCT. THIS, UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CYNTHIA COS I'M WITH THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE. UH, THE TOP, UH, TOP SIDED PRIORITY BY CONSTITUENTS WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FOLLOWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND THE THIRD WAS, UM, UH, WORKFORCE, MAYBE WORKFORCE INITIATIVES. MM-HMM. , WE HAD ABOUT, UM, 200 AND GIMME ONE SECOND, 294 RESPONSES. AND THE FIRST, UM, THE SURVEY RAN FROM JULY TO LAST FRIDAY AT NOON, AUGUST 6TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I BELIEVE MS. CO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BREAKING IT DOWN. WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE ENTIRE COURT AND TO THE PUBLIC. YES. WE'LL BE POSTING THOSE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY. SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS COMMISSIONERS IS THAT, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, PRIORITIES SHIFT WITHIN THE PRECINCTS. SO I THINK IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT PARTICULAR, I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN TO GEOGRAPHIC SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME PRIORITY SHIFTS WITHIN THE COUNTY ACCORDING TO THE PRECINCTS, CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT. AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW WITH B-C-I-T-G-I-S TEAM AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE UP, UM, SOON ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT NOT ONLY CONSTITUENTS, BUT UM, STAFF CAN PARSE THROUGH THE RESULTS AND IT'S AN INTERACTIVE MAP. SO, AND COMMISSIONERS, I HOPE THAT Y'ALL ENJOYED THE, UH, TOWN HALL MEETINGS. I DID ENJOY THEM ALONG WITH YOU IN TALKING TO OUR COMMUNITY. I ALSO WANT TO THANK, AS I DID AT THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, I'LL THINK TODAY IN THE TODAY'S WORK SESSION BUDGET SESSION, THAT WE MADE AN EFFORT TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT, NOT ONLY MYSELF AS COUNTY JUDGE, BUT US COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, BUT THE BUDGET OFFICE AND THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE ENTIRE STAFF, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT DID APPEAR AND DID SPEAK, UH, AND ALSO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. AND SO I THINK IT WAS AN EXCELLENT WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COUNTY AND CITY GOVERNMENT AND WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OBVIOUSLY DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE SUCH AS THAT MADE, MADE TODAY. SO, UH, THANK AGAIN TO EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS. AND, UH, DAVID, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT, UM, THE EAST SIDE HISTORICAL [02:30:01] CHURCHES RESTORATION, UM, SAN ANTONIO GROWTH ON THE EAST SIDE REQUESTS AND THE MENTAL HEALTH FOR OUR SCHOOLS AND COPS METRO ALLIANCE. WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE REQUESTS AND THE CHANGE ORDER? THEY ARE NOT IN THE CHANGE ORDER OR THE PROPOSED BUDGET. OKAY. SO HOW DID THAT DETERMINATION HAPPEN THAT SOME THINGS LIKE THE SOLAR LIGHT WERE PUT IN, BUT NOT THE OTHER THINGS? UH, SO I'LL LET TANYA SPEAK ON SOLAR LIGHTING FUNDING, BUT, UH, THE OTHER, WELL, THERE'S NO NEED TO SPEAK ON THAT, BUT THE OTHERS, YEAH. THE, UH, OTHER ONES, BASICALLY THERE WERE, IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH OF YOU ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND BEYOND, THERE WAS A DESIRE TO DIRECT NON-PROFITS TO APPLY FOR THE COUNTYWIDE FUNDING THAT IS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE AFTER OCTOBER 1ST. BASICALLY A NOFA PROCESS. AND RATHER THAN HAVE COURT COURT AND OR EACH OF YOU UTILIZE THE $400,000 YOU HAVE BUDGETED FOR SPONSORSHIPS AND ASSISTANCE TO AGENCIES IN YOUR EACH UNDER YOUR OWN DISCRETION. BUT WE, WE INCLUDED 300,000 FOR CMMI AND 300,000 FOR THE SYMPHONY. THOSE 600,000 MADE IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT THE OTHER THINGS DIDN'T. YEAH. HOW DOES THAT, BECAUSE THOSE HAVE BEEN CONTINUALLY FUNDED FOR YEARS BY COURT OR, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE, THE 3D PRINTER AT THE BIBLIOTECH, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE. I MEAN, LIKE HOW DID THAT ONE GET IN? UH, DO, DO ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS REQUEST IT? WE DISCUSS IT WITH THEM AND THEN I MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU SEE TODAY. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND PUBLIC WORKS? UH, BEING ABLE TO DO CODE ENFORCEMENT OF MOWING OF EASEMENTS? SO WE ARE DISCUSSING IN THE, WE ARE CURRENTLY DISCUSSING WITH ART REINHARDT A MAJOR REORGANIZATION. HE WANTS TO PROPOSE TO THE PUBLIC WORKS AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT FUNCTION AS WELL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR MR. MOODY. JUST WANNA SHARE, UH, SHARE SOME INFORMATION, UM, AS ANOTHER DATA POINT RECENTLY FROM A, UM, A NATIONAL, UH, POLLING FIRM. BUT THE QUESTION WAS THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEXAR COUNTY, WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING ISSUES ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU? SO JUST LIKE TO SHARE THE, UH, THE RESULTS THAT, THAT I SAW. CRIME PUBLIC SAFETY, 34%. PROPERTY TAXES, 34% ECONOMIC, OH, SORRY. INFRASTRUCTURE 11%. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, 7% LOW INCOME HOUSING, 4%. EVERYTHING ELSE ACCOUNTED FOR 10%. JUST WANNA SHARE THAT FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO DO WE WE HAVE A WE HAVE A REFRESH. MAYOR, WE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. A SECOND. HAVE WE FINISH ALL DISCUSSIONS? THAT'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY FLORES. ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SIGN. LETTING ME CALL WHAT ROAD CALL COMMISSIONER CLAY FLORES? YES. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COMMISSIONER MOODY. AYE. COMMISSIONER CALVERT? NO JUDGE VOTES. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SAME BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MOTION MEETINGS ADJOURNED. WE'LL SEE Y'ALL TOMORROW. COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING. NINE O'CLOCK. 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