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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING FOR JUNE 4TH, 2024.
[1. Opening Prayer: Martie Kokotajlo with Blessed Sacrament Catholic Church]
THIS TIME, I'LL ASK COMMISSIONER JUSTIN RODRIGUEZ TO INTRODUCE THE FOR OPENING PRAYER AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
I'M GOING TO ASK MARTY KOKOTAJLO TO COME UP TO THE DAIS HERE OR THE PODIUM, I SHOULD SAY.
AND AS SHE DOES THAT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE MARTY.
HER PASSION IS ONE OF THEM IS MUSIC MINISTRY.
I KNOW THAT, AND SHE ALSO ENJOYS YOGA, OBVIOUSLY HER FAMILY AND SERVING THE CHURCH COMMUNITY.
MARTY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE AS MARTY LEADS US IN PRAYER.
AND THEN WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE RIGHT AFTER THAT.
YOU ARE OUR SOURCE OF LOVE AND LIGHT.
WE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE TOGETHER TODAY.
MAY THEY HONOR ONE ANOTHER BY KEEPING AN OPEN MIND AND LISTEN WITH AN OPEN HEART.
WHEN THEY STRUGGLE TO FIND COMMON GROUND, REMIND THEM OF THEIR PURPOSE, THE PURSUIT OF TRUTH FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF YOU, GOD, AND FOR THE SERVICE OF OUR SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY AND FOR ALL HUMANITY.
WE ASK THIS PRAYER IN YOUR NAME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MARTY. PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR NATION'S FLAG.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[3. CEREMONIAL ITEM(S)]
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS. LET'S JUST STAY. WE'LL STAY ON THE ON THE DAIS FOR NOW, AND THEN WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MOODY WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY.
HE'LL BE PARTICIPATING BY ZOOM.
AND SO FOR THOSE I WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES WILL JOIN US VERY SHORTLY.
OKAY. AT THIS TIME, LET US DO THE PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONERS COURT RECOGNIZING AND PROCLAIMING THE MONTH OF JUNE 2024 AS ELDER ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH.
AND COULD I HAVE ALL THOSE HERE FOR THE ELDER ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH TO PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM? AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO READ, WHICH I WILL DO AT THIS TIME.
WHEREAS OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS, CONTRIBUTE TO THE WELL-BEING OF THIS CITY BY WORKING, CAREGIVING, VOLUNTEERING, AND ACTIVELY PRESERVING CUSTOMS, RITUALS, AND TRADITIONS.
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TEXAS. AND WHEREAS ABUSE AFFECTED MORE THAN 120,069 OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN TEXAS IN 2023, AND WHEREAS ABUSE AGAINST OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY IS GROSSLY UNDERREPORTED BECAUSE OF SOCIAL STIGMA, EMBARRASSMENT AND FEAR.AND WHEREAS ADULT ABUSE AFFECTS MEN AND WOMEN OF ALL INCOME AND ABILITY LEVELS, ALL CULTURAL AND ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS IN ALL COMMUNITIES, AND WHEREAS ELDER ABUSE SHOULD CONCERN EVERYONE, IT IS IMPORTANT TO STRENGTHEN OUR EFFORTS TO PREVENT, REPORT AND ADDRESS ELDER ABUSE.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY RECOGNIZES AND PROCLAIMS THE MONTH OF JUNE 2024 AS ELDER ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH IN BEXAR COUNTY, TEXAS, SIGNED BY ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.
WELCOME, PLEASE, IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR.
IN 2023, THE STAFF OF BEXAR COUNTY APS RECEIVED 10,435 REPORTS RELATED TO ABUSE, NEGLECT AND FINANCIAL EXPLOITATION, DESPITE BEING THE SECOND HIGHEST COUNTY IN ABUSE, NEGLECT AND EXPLOITATION REPORTS IN THE STATE.
WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS ALSO.
THIS ALSO INDICATES A PROACTIVE COMMUNITY THAT CARES FOR OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
AS WE ARE ALL AGING TOGETHER IN A SOCIETY THAT VALUES THE JUST TREATMENT OF ALL PEOPLE.
THIS YEAR, APS LAUNCHED AN INITIATIVE PARTNERING TO PROTECT.
THAT IS DESIGNED TO FOSTER STRONG, EFFECTIVE COLLABORATIONS WITH COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
IN STRENGTHENING OUR KEY PARTNERSHIPS, WE WILL BOLSTER OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCES AVAILABLE SO THAT OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES CAN REMAIN CONNECTED TO THEIR COMMUNITY AND AGE IN PLACE SAFELY.
APS AND THE SOUTH TEXAS APS COMMUNITY BOARD WILL REMAIN FOCUSED ON RAISING AWARENESS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE TO BEXAR COUNTY, THE CITY JOINT COMMISSION ON ELDERLY AFFAIRS, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, OUR PROBATE COURTS AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT IN HELPING APS CARRY OUR MISSION IN WHICH IS TO PROTECT OLDER ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
WOULD YOU PLEASE. WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR GROUP? YES. MY NAME IS JESUS GONZALEZ.
IT'S COMPRISED OF SUPERVISORS.
OUR SUPPORT STAFF AS WELL IS HERE WITH US.
SO THAT'S WHO'S HERE, THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.
SO Y'ALL DO ALL THE HARD WORK, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE, PLEASE.
WE'LL STEP DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE AND PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION.
SQUEEZE IN HERE. ACTUALLY, YEAH.
YOU SHOULD CONSIDER WHAT YOU'LL DO.
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ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION WILL BE THE PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONERS.COURT RECOGNIZED AND PROCLAIMING THE MONTH OF JUNE AS PRIDE MONTH.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO MAKE SOME BRIEF REMARKS.
HE HIRED THE FIRST PAID STAFF.
THE PRIDE CENTER NOW HAS EIGHT PAID STAFF, INCLUDING SIX FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, AND HE DEVELOPED SEVERAL INNOVATIVE INITIATIVES FROM PRIDE FAMILY PROGRAM AND THE COMMUNITY DROP IN CENTER TO THE SAFE ZONE TRAINING PROGRAM.
AT THIS TIME, LET ME READ THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS THIS MONTH, BEXAR COUNTY COMMEMORATES AND CELEBRATES THE PROGRESS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE LGBTQIA+ RIGHTS MOVEMENT SPARKED BY THE UPRISING IN JUNE 1969 AT THE STONEWALL INN IN NEW YORK.
AND WHEREAS, WE HONOR AND CELEBRATE OUR LGBTQIA+ COMMUNITY, INCLUDING FAMILY MEMBERS, EMPLOYEES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND THEIR PERSEVERANCE TO LIVE A LIFE OF DIGNITY AND RESPECT.
AND WHEREAS BEXAR COUNTY IS COMMITTED TO STRENGTHENING LGBTQIA+ RIGHTS AND RAISING THE PRIDE FLAG IN SOLIDARITY THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, AND WHEREAS WE FURTHER RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE LGBTQIA+ COMMUNITY TO OUR COUNTY'S ECONOMY, HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, ARTS AND CULTURE, AND WHEREAS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK UNDETERRED TO EXPAND AND STRENGTHEN INCLUSIVITY AND DIVERSITY BY COMMITTING TO REPRESENTATION AND SUPPORT FOR ALL LGBTQIA+ MEMBERS.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE RESOLVED THAT THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY RECOGNIZES AND PROCLAIMS THE MONTH OF JUNE IS PRIDE MONTH, ENCOURAGES ALL IN OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THIS OBSERVANCE AND ENGAGE THE LGBTQIA+ COMMUNITY TO BUILD BRIDGES WITNESSED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT.
AND I'LL READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.
ROBERT. SO IF YOU WOULD YOU DON'T MIND, DO YOU, ROBERT? OKAY. THANK YOU. CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION ROBERT SAUCEDO, JUNIOR.
MISTER SALCIDO, A PASSIONATE AND CAPABLE COMMUNITY LEADER, HAS LED THE PRIDE CENTER SAN ANTONIO FOR 13 YEARS, PIONEERING INITIATIVES TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF LGBTQ PLUS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
HIS PROGRESSIVE LEADERSHIP HAS INCREASED SUPPORT SERVICES AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMING FOR LGBTQ PLUS RESIDENTS OF BEXAR COUNTY, AND PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN DEFINING BEXAR COUNTY AND A COMPASSIONATE, INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY ON BEHALF OF BEXAR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT AWARDED THIS FOURTH DAY OF JUNE 2024, I HAVE SIGNED IT AS BEXAR COUNTY JUDGE.
CAN WE GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THE PRIDE MONTH AND FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ROBERT SAUCEDO, JUNIOR? THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
THIS ACKNOWLEDGMENT IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP TOWARD FOSTERING INCLUSIVITY AND RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT THE ONGOING STRUGGLES, AS WELL AS THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY. CELEBRATING PRIDE MONTH PROMOTES UNDERSTANDING, ACCEPTANCE, AND EQUALITY, HELPING CREATE A MORE INCLUSIVE AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENTS.
YOUR SUPPORT SENDS A POWERFUL MESSAGE OF SOLIDARITY AND RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY.
AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TODAY'S RECOGNITION.
ALL RIGHT. ROBERT AND YOUR GUESTS, WHY DON'T YOU COME FORWARD AND WE'LL HAVE THE PICTURE TAKEN? APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE. GOOD LUCK ON THE NEXT.
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OKAY. ALL RIGHT.WE'RE A LITTLE SHORT, ARE WE? HAVEN'T HIT THE TIME.
OH, FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.
[4. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS ITEM(S)]
PRESENTATION OF DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 2324 TO THE COUNTY OF BEXAR, TEXAS, RECOGNIZING THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY MANAGER FOR MEETING THE HIGHEST PRINCIPLES OF GOVERNMENTAL BUDGETING AND SATISFYING NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED GUIDELINES FOR EFFECTIVE BUDGET PRESENTATION.WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE WITH THIS ITEM TO RECOGNIZE OUR FANTASTIC BUDGET TEAM.
WOULD THEY COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? AS WE GET READY TO ENTER THEIR BUSIEST TIME OF THE YEAR WITH BUDGET COMING UP, I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO PASS WITHOUT SOME NOTICE AND RECOGNITION.
THEY ESTABLISHED A DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD PROGRAM.
GFOA RECOGNIZES ENTITIES THAT DEVELOP BUDGETS BASED ON GUIDELINES ESTABLISHED BY THE NATIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL ON STATE AND LOCAL BUDGETING AND GFOA BEST PRACTICES.
THE AWARDS BEING PRESENTED TO BEXAR COUNTY FOR THE 30TH TIME.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE RECOGNIZE DAVID, TINA, TANYA, THE REST OF THE TEAM FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK IN IMPLEMENTING THE BUDGET IN IN GETTING THROUGH I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER BUSY SUMMER.
WE GOT TO GO FOR 31 THIS SUMMER.
SO THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE RECOGNITION OF A DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD PRESENTED TO BEXAR COUNTY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR THAT BEGAN OCTOBER 1ST, 2023.
IF WE CAN GIVE OUR BUDGET STAFF A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
WHO WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS DISTINGUISHED GROUP.
I WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT.
DEFINITELY TO MY TEAM MEMBERS WHO ARE BACK HERE.
THEY KIND OF ARE IN THE BACK IN THEIR OFFICES BEHIND THE SCREENS, BUT THEY DO A LOT OF THE WORK.
THEY WORK TREMENDOUSLY HARD, HAVE A REALLY GOOD WORK ETHIC.
THEY MAKE ME LOOK GOOD WHEN I'M UP HERE AT THE PODIUM.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE HOURS THAT THEY PUT IN THERE.
THEY WORK MORE THAN 40 HOURS DURING THE SUMMER.
THEY SACRIFICE A LOT OF VACATIONS DURING THIS TIME.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE IT, TANYA, VERY MUCH.
CERTAINLY, WHEN WE DO BOND RATINGS, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE CRUNCHING NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT HOW EITHER THE LEADERSHIP OR THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT OF THE COUNTY IS GOING THESE THINGS ARE CERTAINLY IMPORTANT.
AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND UNDERSCORE AND HIGHLIGHT THAT TODAY.
SO THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO.
YEAH. AND THANK YOU, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AS WELL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP DURING THE PROCESS AS WELL.
LET ME LET ME GO AHEAD AND SAY A FEW WORDS.
LET ME ALSO THANK THE BUDGET OFFICE.
OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE PROCESS.
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FOR THOSE UNAWARE, WE GOT ABOUT A $3 BILLION BUDGET.WE GOT ABOUT 5000, 5000 EMPLOYEES.
AND WE GOT NUMEROUS DEPARTMENTS AND STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS.
AND I KNOW I'M SKIPPING A WHOLE BUNCH OF DEPARTMENTS, AND THAT'S I PLEASE APOLOGIZE.
OH, PUBLIC HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO BECAUSE I KNOW I'LL I'LL GET THAT LATER.
BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
OBVIOUSLY I STARTED ON JANUARY 1ST, 2023.
THERE PROBABLY HAVE BEEN THERE.
I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES AND THERE CONTINUE TO BE CHANGES.
AND SO I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HAD TO ADJUST TO THAT.
WE'VE MADE A LOT OF COMMITMENTS TO THE EMPLOYEES IN ADJUSTMENT AND PAY SALARIES ADJUSTMENT IN CLASSIFICATIONS, DEALING WITH THE TOUGH ISSUES AND COMPRESSION AND THE BUDGET, DEALING WITH THE BUDGETARY NEEDS OF EACH DEPARTMENT AND TRYING TO HELP ALL THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND IT IS NOT NOT AN EASY JOB.
SO WITH THAT IS MY ETERNAL GRATITUDE FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO.
THANK YOU. JUDGE. MAY I INTRODUCE MY TEAM? YES. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
THOMAS DE KEYSER, ONE OF THE SENIOR BUDGET ANALYSTS.
GOOD MORNING. I'M ASHLEY GERBER, BUDGET ANALYST.
HI, I'M ANDREA LOPEZ, AND I'M A SENIOR FINANCE ANALYST.
JASMINE LEONE, SENIOR BUDGET ANALYST.
CRISTINA MENDOZA, SENIOR BUDGET ANALYST.
FAWZI KHALIL, SENIOR FINANCE ANALYST.
GOOD MORNING. VALERIE PICHARDO, GRANTS TECHNICIAN.
FABIAN CORTEZ, GRANTS ANALYST.
AWESOME. WE TAKE A PICTURE WITH HIM? YES. YOUR PICTURE? YEAH. WHAT? YEAH, WE JUST FOUND OUT.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER, WE WILL STAND UP HERE.
GUYS THANK YOU THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
THANK YOU THANK YOU, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT I UNDERSTAND THE COMMISSIONER MOODY HAS ARRIVED.
YOUR PRESENCE IS NOTED FOR THE RECORD.
COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.
[5.a. 9:30 a.m. - Public Hearing: The Commissioners Court invites public input regarding the following: i. Discussion of subdivision Replat# CP202106 within the Extra Territorial Jurisdiction of the City of Schertz: Fisher Estates Replat, owner: David R. Fisher, Nearest Intersection: Schaefer Road and Lost Meadows Drive: Southeast, not within the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. Precinct Number 4. ii. Approval of subdivision Replat# CP202106 within the Extra Territorial Jurisdiction of the City of Schertz: Fisher Estates, owner: David R. Fisher, Nearest Intersection: Schaefer Road and Lost Meadows Drive: Southeast, not within the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. Precinct Number 4. ]
AND I WILL CALL UP AGENDA ITEM FIVE A.THE COMMISSIONERS COURT INVITES PUBLIC INPUT REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ONE.
DISCUSSION OF SUBDIVISION PLAT CP 202106.
AND CAN I GO AHEAD AND DO THE SECOND, OR DO WE HAVE TO DO SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS? DO IT TOGETHER. SO I'LL CALL UP THE APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION REPLAT CP 202106.
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NEAREST INTERSECTION SCHAEFER AND LOST MEADOWS DRIVE SOUTHEAST, NOT WITHIN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE.GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.
ART REINHART, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REPLAT.
BY STATE LAW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF RE PLATS.
THIS IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BEXAR COUNTY.
YEAH. IF WE CAN JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
I THINK WE CAN PROCEED WITHOUT THE VISUAL.
IT'S A LOCATION MAP, BUT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF ACRE LOT IN THE FAR NORTH EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY, NEAR SCHAEFER ROAD IN PRECINCT FOUR, AND THE REPLAT IS SIMPLY DIVIDING THE TWO AND A HALF ACRE LOT INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS.
ONE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.3 ACRES AND THE OTHER IS 1.1 ACRES.
IT'S GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR OUR REVIEW PROCESSES AND STAFF AND MYSELF RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
BUT LIKE I MENTIONED, BY STATE LAW, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF ANY PLOTS.
I'LL PAUSE THERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO TO THE RECOMMENDED MOTION ART.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR. OKAY.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEMS A FIVE, A ONE AND TWO.
SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE, A SUBSECTIONS ONE AND TWO, WHICH DEAL WITH THE APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF SCHERTZ.
ANYBODY HERE WISH TO SPEAK OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE? ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS.
CARRY ON, MR. RENNER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL NOW GO TO.
LET'S GO WITH ITEM AGENDA SIX.
[6. Request of Commissioners Court to identify items from the Consent Agenda for additional discussion and to approve remaining Consent Agenda items.]
REQUEST OF COMMISSIONERS COURT TO IDENTIFY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND TO APPROVE REMAINING CONSENT ITEMS. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, I'LL START WITH YOU.OR COMMISSIONER CALVERT. I'M SORRY, CAN WE DEFER? STAFF NEEDS TO DEFER. ITEM 1010.
ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, YOU PULL ITEM 46, PLEASE.
ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
COMMISSIONER MOODY, IS THERE ANY MATTERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? A CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO PULL.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?
[CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
ITEMS NOT PULLED.MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED.
LET US NOW GO BACK AND TAKE UP THOSE MATTERS THAT WE PULLED.
[10. Approval of Tax Assessor-Collector's Report of Taxes collected in May 2024 and approval of the order transferring tax collections for the month of May 2024 from unallocated receipts.]
AND APPROVAL OF THE ORDER TRANSFERRING TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF MAY 2024 FROM UNALLOCATED RECEIPTS.[00:30:01]
AUDITORS TAX REPORTS IN THE BACKUP.WE HAD SOME DISCREPANCIES FROM THE TAX OFFICE, SO THEY ASKED FOR US TO PULL IT.
WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE TO TABLE THE ITEM TEN.
SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM TEN BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS.
ITEM. ARE WE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE DATE SPECIFIC ON JUNE 18TH? JUNE 18TH.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 46 WAS PULLED.
[46. Approval and execution of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) grant agreement between Bexar County and Haven for Hope of Bexar County to provide Coronavirus State and Local Fiscal Recovery Funds (SLFRF) in the amount of $110,000 for street outreach efforts within Bexar County to include any appropriate budgetary transfer necessary.]
IT'S THE APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.ARPA GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY.
HAVEN FOR HOPE OF BEXAR COUNTY TO PROVIDE CORONAVIRUS.
STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $110,000 FOR STREET OUTREACH EFFORTS WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY TO INCLUDE ANY APPROPRIATE BUDGETARY TRANSFER.
COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SHE HAD PULLED THIS MATTER.
I JUST WANTED TO GET JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THIS.
I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUDGE, YOU HELPED CHAMPION AS WELL.
AND I THINK THE GOAL WAS INITIALLY TO START OUT IN LEON VALLEY WITH THOSE TWO OUTREACH CASE WORKERS.
IS THAT ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED, ROBERT? OR CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON HOW THAT'S GOING? BECAUSE I THINK THE IDEA, THE CONCEPT WAS START THERE AND THEN MAYBE GO OVER TO BALCONES HEIGHTS AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER SUBURBAN CITIES AS WELL.
YES. SO OUR GOAL IS TO START OFF IN LEON VALLEY AND BALCONES HEIGHTS.
AND THEN AFTER THREE, SIX MONTH PERIOD, WE'LL EXTEND OUT TO THE OTHER AREAS OF BEXAR COUNTY.
OKAY. SO I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE APPROVED A FEW MONTHS BACK.
ARE THEY ALREADY IN PLACE, OR IS THIS KIND OF THE FINAL ACTION TO GET THEM IN PLACE? THIS IS THE FINAL ACTION TO GET THEM IN PLACE FROM HERE.
SO IF YOU CAN JUST KEEP US POSTED AS IT GETS DEPLOYED, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.
MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. CALVERT.
COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. JUDGE, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR ROBERT.
IN THE SURVEY THAT WE DO OF THE OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION EVERY YEAR WHERE IS THE HEAVIEST AMOUNT OF FOLKS, DO WE KNOW THAT DATA? SURE WE HAVE.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
THE LARGEST POPULATION IN THE THE MOST RECENT POINT IN TIME COUNT WAS IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS FIVE, ONE, FIVE AND ONE KIND OF THAT AREA OF DOWNTOWN, MOSTLY IN THE WEST SIDE.
HOWEVER THE POINT IN TIME COUNT RECENTLY DID JUST SHOW NOT ONLY AN OVERALL 7% INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS, BUT A 7% DECREASE IN HOMELESSNESS, IN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT AN INCREASE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF BEXAR COUNTY.
AND WE DID JUST RECENTLY FINALIZE OUR CONTRACT WITH LEON VALLEY ITSELF.
AND WITH RESPECT TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, WHICH OF THOSE AREAS IN, I GUESS BY QUADRANT WHERE GEOGRAPHY AND WHAT AREAS THAT YOU SEE ARE SOME OF THE LARGEST NUMBERS IN IN FOR THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER AND THEN THERE'S A LARGER NUMBER IN ONE AS WELL.
SO IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF DISTRIBUTED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN BECAUSE IT'S THE NUMBERS ARE SMALLER.
SO IT'S DISTRIBUTED MORE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.
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BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO LARGEST COMMISSIONER DISTRICTS.YEAH. I WOULD LIKE THIS CONVERSATION TO BE ON THE RECORD, TO HELP, PERHAPS THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THE MOST RECENT PUBLICITY.
OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IT MADE THE HEADLINES THAT THE THE HOMELESS POPULATION HAS INCREASED PURSUANT TO THIS POINT IN TIME COUNT. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. BUT ALSO READ AND I WANT CLARITY ON THIS, THAT THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS UNSHELTERED.
IS THAT DID I GET THAT OR AM I MIXING MIXING THINGS UP? TECHNICALLY IN THE COUNT FROM PRIOR YEAR IT WENT UP 14 INDIVIDUALS.
SO 1414 MORE INDIVIDUALS WERE UNSHELTERED IN THE 24 COUNT FROM THE 23 COUNT.
HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS GONE DOWN BY 25%.
SO THAT'S WHAT. SO MOST OF THE THE GROWTH IN THE HOMELESS POPULATION IS PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SHELTER.
AND A LOT OF THAT IS FAMILIES.
YES. THE HOMELESS POPULATION HAS INCREASED.
AND AS FAR AS FROM THE YEAR BEFORE TO NOW, IT INCREASED JUST THE AGGREGATE NUMBER OF 14, WHICH I SUBMIT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH A STATIC LINE ON THE ON THE GRAPH. CORRECT? YEAH. IT WAS 874 TO 888 UNSHELTERED, BUT OVER FIVE YEAR PERIOD IT'S ABOUT 25% DECREASE.
CORRECT. WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, IS IT NOT? IT IS. WHICH TELLS US THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
WHAT I WANT TO TAKEAWAY SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I THINK THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND IN A FASHION THAT IS REALLY, TRULY EFFECTIVE AND PROMOTES COLLABORATION, COORDINATION.
AND SO I REALLY WANT CLARITY THERE SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, BECAUSE I THINK THE, THE READ THERE FROM THE MEDIA WAS THERE'S MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE. I THINK THERE ARE EFFORTS PERHAPS AT THE CITY LEVEL TO PUT OUT SIGNAGE, AND I RESPECT THOSE STRATEGIES. BUT I THINK THE STRATEGY IS TO INCREASE CAPACITY FOR THE HOMELESS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE HAVEN.
AND THEN THE OTHER COMMITMENT WE MADE WAS TOWN TWIN.
AND THEN ON THE LONG TERM, THE HOMES THAT ARE ZECHIA.
SO CAN YOU GIVE US A PERSPECTIVE? DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? I REALLY KIND OF WANT YOU TO WRAP IT TOGETHER SO THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE AND THAT WE ARE GETTING AHEAD OF IT, DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER ELIMINATE IT.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER WERE.
I THINK THAT'S UNREALISTIC, BUT I THINK WE ARE DOING A HECK OF A JOB.
AND PERHAPS YOU CAN ALSO EXPOUND ON THE GREAT CONFERENCE WE JUST HAD AND THE RECOGNITION THAT WE GAVE TO ALL THE ADVOCATES, THE CASEWORKERS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE HARD WORK. SO I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU AND ALL THE ADVOCATES ARE DOING.
CAN YOU DO THAT FOR ME? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
YOU KNOW, HOMELESSNESS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE.
THERE IS NO MAGIC THING WE CAN DO TO ELIMINATE HOMELESSNESS.
THERE'S A VARIETY OF FACTORS THAT LEAD PEOPLE TO HOMELESSNESS.
A LOT OF IT IS TRAUMA PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THEIR LIVES.
HOMELESSNESS NATIONALLY IS GROWING.
SAN ANTONIO IS EXPERIENCING THAT AS WELL.
AND WHEN ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS PASSES AWAY, THEY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO STAY WHERE THEY ARE.
WE ALSO HAVE AN AGING POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS LEADING TO MORE AND MORE HOMELESSNESS.
SO ALL OF THOSE FACTORS GROW HOMELESSNESS.
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AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GET THEM ENGAGED IN SERVICES AND INTO SAFE SHELTER.SO WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HAVEN FOR HOPE, THE SALVATION ARMY, SAM MINISTRIES, LOW BARRIER, NON-CONGREGATE HOTEL, WHATEVER THE BEST OPTION IS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WE HAVE, WE COLLECTIVELY WORK TOGETHER AND WE HAVE CENTRALIZED THIS YEAR ALL OF THE SHELTER BEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH HAVEN.
AND SO THAT THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO GETTING MORE PEOPLE OFF OF THE STREETS, ALLOWING US TO TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACEMENT THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL OR THAT FAMILY.
SAN ANTONIO HAS ABOUT 73% OF OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT ARE IN SHELTER.
AND THE FACT THAT OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, YOU KNOW, GREW BY 14 PEOPLE OVER THE LAST YEAR IS SIGNIFICANT AS WELL, BECAUSE UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IS GROWING AT A MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT RATE.
SO IF YOU LOOK JUST NATIONALLY, HOW WE'RE DOING RELATIVE TO THOSE TWO THINGS, PEOPLE IN SHELTER AND THE THE THE MINIMAL GROWTH IN OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, WE'RE DOING BETTER. AND SO WE'RE GIVING THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE FAMILIES, THOSE SINGLE MOMS, THOSE, YOU KNOW, ELDERLY FOLKS A PLACE TO BE, A SAFE PLACE TO BE, AND THEN ACCESS TO HOUSING RESOURCES AND THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TOWN, TWIN AND ALL OF THOSE.
THAT'S WHAT GETS PEOPLE OUT OF SHELTERS.
SO WE NEED, YOU KNOW, SHELTER SERVICES AND WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING SERVICES.
WE NEED IT ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
AND WE ALL WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER.
CLOSE TO HOME IS OUR LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE.
AND SO THEY ALL OF THE HUD FUNDING COMES THROUGH THEM AND THEY COORDINATE US ALL SO THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING WELL TOGETHER TO ENSURE THE RESOURCES GO TO THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING AND THAT KIND OF SUPPORT.
AND SO WE HAVE CALLS EVERY OTHER WEEK AS A COLLABORATION.
ALL OF US LEADERS GET TOGETHER, CEOS ONLY ON THE CALLS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN ADJUST AS NECESSARY WITH THE CHANGING ENVIRONMENT AROUND US. AND SO WE ARE WORKING EXTREMELY WELL TOGETHER.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT POPULATION IS WHAT CREATES CONCERN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO WHAT OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD PRESUME THAT THAT YOUR COLLABORATION, YOUR ADVOCATES HAVE PROBABLY TOUCHED EVERY HOMELESS PERSON EITHER THAT'S IN SHELTER OR HAS TRANSITIONED AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO THE UNSHELTERED.
SO WHAT IS THERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE A CHANGE OF STRATEGY FOR THAT DIFFICULT POPULATION? THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE INTO SHELTER AND THEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED TO REPRIORITIZE OUR FOCUS ON SERVICES WE JUST CREATED OR JUST PASSED A OUTREACH PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF LEON VALLEY AND HOPEFULLY TO EXPAND IT.
YOU'VE ALREADY INDICATED THAT THE POPULATION IS NOW MOVING TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
SO I WANT TO KNOW, DO WE NEED ANY SPECIAL STRATEGIES? ULTIMATELY, WHAT RESOURCES ARE YOU GOING TO NEED OTHER THAN WHAT Y'ALL ARE GETTING NOW OR DOING NOW? DO YOU GET MY QUESTION? I DO IT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER BECAUSE THIS THIS THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS THAT HAVE LED TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ON OUR STREETS.
AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE NICK'S HOSPITAL CLOSED, WE LOST 130 PSYCH BEDS.
SO THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN PSYCHIATRIC BEDS NEEDED THAT LEVEL OF CARE, WERE PUSHED TO THE STREETS.
AND SO A LOT OF THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A RATIONAL CONVERSATION WITH ABOUT THEIR OWN PERSONAL WELL-BEING ARE NOT COGNITIVELY IN THE SPACE, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTIVE IN THEIR ADDICTION OR THEY HAVE SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS.
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SO CORAZON IS LOOKING AT HOW CAN THEY INCORPORATE STREET MEDICINE.AND THEN CHRISTIAN ASSISTANCE MINISTRIES IS LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY, HOW CAN THEY BRING PSYCHIATRIC CARE INTO UNSHELTERED POPULATIONS, NOT REQUIRING PEOPLE TO COME INTO SERVICES SOMEWHERE.
SO WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE PILOTS COULD BE.
AND THEY'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPING THOSE PILOTS.
NOW THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN LEON VALLEY.
WELL, I THINK YOU'VE HIT I THINK WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO DO AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO DO IS RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND NEEDS OF THIS POPULATION, WHICH POSSIBLY WOULD MEAN THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE COMMITMENT, THE FINANCING OF PSYCHIATRIC BEDS.
SO. UNFORTUNATELY, NO, THEY'RE NOT FUNDABLE.
YEAH. SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING.
DOES ANYONE IN A LOT OF CASES WHERE THERE ARE FAMILIES LIVING TOGETHER WHEN, AS YOU SAID, SOMEONE DIES, THE PROBATE IS A MAJOR ISSUE IN TERMS OF THE TITLE.
SO DOES HAVEN OR ANY OTHER GROUP DEALING WITH THE UNSHELTERED HAVE A ROBUST PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE STAY IN THE MOST AFFORDABLE HOME THEY, THEY HAVE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THEY'RE IN NOW WITH THOSE PROBATE ISSUES THAT HAVE REALLY HIT THE INNER CITY IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY.
SO SAINT MARY'S LAW STUDENTS ARE DOING SOME OF THAT WORK IN PROGRAMING THERE WITH THIS POPULATION.
AND TLRA DOES A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WORK, TOO.
BUT WE HAVE THEM ON OUR CAMPUS TOO, THAT CAN HELP NAVIGATE THAT.
TYPICALLY IT HAPPENS OUTSIDE, THOUGH, BEFORE THEY GET TO US.
SO THERE ARE PROGRAMS HOW ROBUST THEY ARE.
I COULDN'T SPEAK TO BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE.
YEAH, I WOULD YOU KNOW, TEXAS RURAL LEGAL AID IS ALWAYS UNDERFUNDED.
YEAH, ALWAYS IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD LOOK AT SUPPORTING, BECAUSE IT'LL STABILIZE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO IN MANY CASES ARE, FRANKLY, COUCH SURFING OR RETURNING BACK TO HOME OR MAYBE A COLLEGE AGE, YOU KNOW, OR A WORKER IN A PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, RETAIL JOB WHO JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO GO INTO AN APARTMENT.
OKAY. SO THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION.
THE SECOND QUESTION WAS RELATED TO PROJECTIONS.
IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T TAKE AN ECONOMIST TO FIGURE OUT THAT WHEN THE HOUSING AND THE RENTAL PRICE IS SO HIGH, IT WILL EVENTUALLY MERIT A OFFLOADING OF A NUMBER OF PEOPLE OUT OF HOUSING.
SO HOW HOW ARE YOU? DO YOU HAVE PROJECTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE MEDIAN PRICE IS 300, WHATEVER IT IS NOW IN SAN ANTONIO, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR EVERY $10,000 INCREASE IN THE HOUSING PRICES AND THE RENTAL PRICES INCREASES, DO YOU DO YOU SHOW A CORRELATION BETWEEN THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS? YOU HAVE PROJECTIONS YOU'RE WORKING ON? YES. THERE'S AN 88% CORRELATION BETWEEN.
SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY 1 TO 1, BUT IT'S 88% FROM HOUSING PRICES AND HOMELESSNESS.
SO AS HOUSING PRICES INCREASE, YOU KNOW, 88%, YOU KNOW, CORRELATION TO INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS.
SO OUR PROJECTIONS AT HAVEN, WE HAVE A DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND DATA SCIENCE AT HAVEN.
SO OUR LAST YEAR WE SERVED, YOU KNOW, 9457 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS AT HAVEN.
SO WITHIN THE NEXT SIX YEARS WE'LL BE HAVING TO SERVE 13,000 INDIVIDUALS BASED ON THE CURRENT ECONOMIC FACTORS AND HOUSING PRICES AND THE PROJECTED GROWTH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER COWARD'S FOCUS ON LEGAL SERVICES.
ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE THAT GREAT CONVERSATION.
ALL RIGHT, KIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT. OH, COMMISSIONER.
YOU KNOW CLEARLY SOME PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AS YOU INDICATED.
AND WE'VE INVESTED IN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THERE.
ARE WE KEEPING TRACK OF, LIKE, OCCUPANCY RATES ON ALL THE CURRENT SHELTERS? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL? IF SO ULTIMATELY, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AS AS THE JUDGE INDICATED.
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RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A CAPACITY ISSUE, AT WHAT POINT DO WE FIX THE CAPACITY ISSUE, BUT THE REMAINING UNSHELTERED WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN A DIFFERENT WAY, RIGHT.CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, FROM HAVEN'S PERSPECTIVE, WE DO HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE BEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO OUR WE HAVE BEEN OVER CAPACITY JUST, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN AT HAVEN.
SO I'VE BEEN AT HAVEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
SO WE'VE BEEN OVER CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.
TODAY WE HAVE 1624 PEOPLE STAYING THERE, DESIGNED FOR 1450.
WE HAVE SOME FLEX SPACES THAT WE CAN USE THAT'S LARGELY FAMILIES.
RATE TENDS TO BE AROUND 9,495% BECAUSE THAT'S INS AND OUTS.
SO THAT'S HOW WE LOOK AT OUR OCCUPANCY.
AND SO WE TEND TO BE AROUND 94, 95% FULL ALL THE TIME.
THE SAM SHELTER HAS TAKEN THEIR LOW BARRIER NON-CONGREGATE SHELTER.
THEIR HOTEL HAS TAKEN A LITTLE BIT TO GET UP AND RUNNING, BUT THEY'RE ENROLLING, YOU KNOW, 5 TO 6 INDIVIDUALS FROM THE STREETS THROUGH OUR CENTRALIZED SHELTER COORDINATION ON A WEEKLY BASIS. SO THAT'S CONTINUING TO HAPPEN.
SO THEY'RE PROBABLY GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO CAPACITY.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THOSE EXACT NUMBERS.
BUT THAT IN ADDITION TO HAVEN, WE CARVED OUT 80 BEDS SPECIFICALLY THIS YEAR FOR UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS DIRECTLY COMING FROM STREET OUTREACH IN OUR LOW BARRIER SIDE, THAT AN ACTUAL BUNK.
AND THOSE ARE WHERE, WHERE 90 LIKE THEY WERE 98% FULL WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF OPENING.
SO THAT STUFF FILLS UP VERY QUICKLY WHEN YOU HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
SO PEOPLE ARE COMING IN OFF THE STREETS, BUT THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE FOR LOW BARRIER SHELTER JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, WHERE THEY HAVE PLACEMENT AND BEDS, BECAUSE I THINK, LIKE ANY HUMAN, I WANT THE DIGNITY OF BEING PLACED IN A BUNK OR A BED, NOT A MAT ON THE FLOOR.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENCE IN IT.
AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 200 THAT ARE IN BUNKS.
WE'LL GET MORE PEOPLE INTO SHELTER IN THAT WAY WE'RE DOING.
BUT THOSE TWO FACTORS, THE LOW BARRIER SHELTER AND US DOING FOR SAM AND US DOING 80 BEDS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUTREACH, HAVE REALLY WE BOUGHT WE BROUGHT IN OVER 300 PEOPLE SINCE FROM THE STREETS SINCE WE OPENED THAT PROGRAM JANUARY 26TH OF THIS YEAR.
SO MAKING SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN THAT AREA.
BUT WE STILL NEED TO FOCUS ON CAPACITY THERE.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET ME JUST CLOSE WITH THESE COMMENTS.
I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
ULTIMATELY. AND, KIM, I THINK THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
SOMETIMES WE MOVE THE HOMELESS POPULATION AROUND.
AND SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A PARTNERSHIP WITH ALL OUR GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO REALLY INTERACT AND INTERDICT INTO THESE DIFFICULT, COMPLEX SITUATIONS. THE APPROVAL OF THIS CONTRACT WITH HAVEN FOLK TODAY WILL INITIATE THE STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM.
SO, KIM, PLEASE TELL ALL THE ADVOCATES I'LL LOOK FOR THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND HOPING THAT WE CAN SEE THE RETURN TO EXPAND THE COMMITMENT THAT WE CAN DO THIS WILL HELP GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS WITH THE SERVICES AND THE HOUSING OPTIONS.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I ANY OPPOSED, ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.
WE'RE GRATEFUL. KIM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT AND THE REPORT FOR TODAY.
WE'LL DEFINITELY BE BACK TO SHOW YOU RESULTS.
[7. Commissioners Court minutes for Tuesday, May 21, 2024.]
COMMISSIONER. COURT MINUTES FOR TUESDAY, MAY 21ST, 2024.MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.
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ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, COMMUNICATION FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.[8. Communications from citizens who signed the register to speak.]
AND WE'LL START WITH HEATHER IKRI.OKAY. LET ME LOOK FOR PURPOSES OF CLARITY.
LET ME JUST. HEATHER, WHERE IS THAT? YOU. THERE'S ALSO, IT APPEARS I JUST WANT TO ALIGN IT.
SO BECAUSE I SEE SEVERAL WE HAVE A JEREMIAH GARZA.
OKAY. AND ALL FOUR WISH TO SPEAK.
LET'S JUST LET EVERYBODY. SO, HEATHER, I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL STAY AT THE PODIUM.
HEATHER EICHLIN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WELL, WE CAME HERE IN JANUARY FOR HELP AMERICA VOTE DAY.
JUDGE SAKAI ASKED WHERE ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
SO I BROUGHT A COUPLE OF YOUNG PEOPLE WITH ME TODAY.
I'M THRILLED TO BE HERE TODAY AS THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF YOUTH DO VOTE.
JEREMIAH IS MOTIVATED TO ALSO WORK THE JUNE 15TH ELECTION IF I CAN FIND HIM A SPOT.
CAN YOU SLOW DOWN? JUST. I KNOW WE GOT YOU ON THE CLOCK, BUT.
AND HE WORKED HIS FIRST ELECTION IN NOVEMBER 2023 WITH ELECTION JUDGE CLIFF JENKINS AND MYSELF AND MCCRELESS LIBRARY, AND ALSO WORKED THE MARCH 5TH PRIMARY WITH US. AND WE MENTIONED CLIFF JENKINS, WHO'S HERE WITH ME.
I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT THROUGH OUR PILOT PROGRAM IN THE 2023 2024 SCHOOL YEAR, YOUTH TO VOTE WAS ABLE TO RECRUIT MORE THAN 30 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS INTERESTED IN BECOMING STUDENT ELECTION CLERKS.
ONE OF THOSE RECRUITED, 14 WERE PLACED AT VOTE CENTERS THROUGHOUT BEXAR COUNTY DURING THE ELECTIONS OF NOVEMBER 2023, THE MARCH PRIMARY MAY 4TH, AND LAST WEEK'S PRIMARY RUNOFF.
I HOPE TO PLACE A FEW OF THOSE STUDENTS FOR JUNE 15TH AS WELL.
THESE 14 STUDENTS COME FROM EIGHT HIGH SCHOOLS REPRESENTING FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
THAT'S SA ISD, JUDSON, NORTHSIDE ISD, AND NORTHEAST, AND THE STUDENTS RANGE IN AGE FROM 16 TO 18.
SO THEY'RE SOPHOMORES, JUNIORS AND SENIORS.
AND WE PLAN TO EXPAND THIS PROGRAM FOR NOVEMBER AND HOPING TO HAVE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST TIME INTENSIVE PARTS OF MY JOB.
IT IS ALSO THE MOST REWARDING TO SEE THESE STUDENTS FEEL EMPOWERED BY BECOMING NOT JUST INFORMED VOTERS, BUT KNOWLEDGEABLE COWORKERS WHO ARE PROUD TO HAVE PLAYED THIS CRITICAL ROLE IN OUR DEMOCRACY.
IT TRULY MAKES ME PROUD, PARTICULARLY AT A TIME WHEN OUR COUNTRY IS FACING ELECTION DENIERS.
NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, OF THE TOP FIVE COUNTIES IN TEXAS, BEXAR COUNTY IS THE ONLY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT THAT DOES NOT HAVE INFORMATION ON ITS WEBSITE ABOUT BECOMING A STUDENT ELECTION CLERK. BUT FORTUNATELY, YOUTH DO VOTE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE UNITED STATES ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION, AND WE WERE ABLE TO USE PART OF THOSE FUNDS TO CREATE OUR OWN WEB PAGES FOR BOTH COLLEGE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, TO INFORM THEM ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK, AS WELL AS THE PROCESS AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR WORKING ON ELECTION.
WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE BUILDING SO MANY PARTNERSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH EDUCATORS LIKE FORMER NORTHSIDE SUPERINTENDENT DOCTOR BRIAN WOODS AND CHRISTINA MARTINEZ, PRESIDENT OF THE CISD SCHOOL BOARD, WHO IS NOW WITH PARTNERSHIPS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. JUDGE, I JUST HAD I COULDN'T HEAR ONE SENTENCE.
YOU SAID WE WERE THE ONLY ELECTION DEPARTMENT WHO DIDN'T HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUTH BEING A PART.
SO THE TOP FIVE COUNTIES IN TEXAS TRAVIS HARRIS I'M FORGETTING ALL THE OTHERS.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT. JEREMIAH? NO. JEREMIAH.
GARCIA. SO THEY THEY WERE YIELDING THEIR TIME.
OH, WELL, IF THEY'RE YIELDING THE TIME, YOU CAN I CAN KEEP GOING.
I'D INVITE THEM TO SPEAK AND PERHAPS THEY CAN JUST TELL US ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE.
SO LET'S GO WITH JEREMIAH, YOUR FIRST.
AND YOU GET TO STATE YOUR OPINION.
THAT'S WHAT THIS CITIZENS TO BE HEARD MEANS.
SO I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS WHATEVER OPINIONS YOU HAVE.
SO, JEREMIAH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO BE HELPING MY COMMUNITY BE THERE, VOTE FOR PEOPLE AROUND ME.
THIS IS MY ACTUALLY MY FIRST JOB WORKING.
IT'S BEEN REALLY GREAT FOR ME TO LEARN, SO.
THANK YOU. HOW ABOUT YOU, HUDSON LOCK? I DEFINITELY FEEL THAT BEING AN ELECTION CLERK IS ONE OF THE MOST FULFILLING OPPORTUNITIES THAT I'VE EVER HAD AS A YOUNG PERSON.
I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE ELECTION MACHINES DO BECAUSE WE WEREN'T TAUGHT ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE HOW THE MACHINES WORKED, AND I REALLY FELT SAFE WITH OUR ELECTIONS.
I ALSO LEARNED HOW I COULD GET REGISTERED MYSELF AND HOW TO REGISTER OTHER PEOPLE.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT MORE PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
AND AS HEATHER WAS SAYING, IF BEXAR COUNTY REALLY GETS HANDS ON AND TELLS YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU CAN GET INVOLVED IN THIS WAY, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN GET PAID FOR AND YOU GET TIME OFF OF SCHOOL FOR IT, MORE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AND MORE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL LEARN THESE INCREDIBLE LIFE SKILLS.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CLIFF JENKINS.
I'M AN ELECTION JUDGE FOR BEXAR COUNTY.
I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR BEXAR COUNTY FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW.
I WORK BOTH ELECTION DAYS AND EARLY VOTING SITES IN BEXAR COUNTY.
THE FIRST IS ANOTHER STUDENT ELECTION.
YOUTH TO VOTE IS A GREAT PROGRAM THAT HAS REALLY HELPED ME TO HELPED TO ENGAGE MY SENSE OF CIVIC DUTY AS A 17 YEAR OLD WHO TURNS 18 SOON AND WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE IN THIS YEAR'S FALL ELECTION. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS HOW EXACTLY THE VOTING PROCESS WORKED, SO I DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED.
WORKING THE MAY 4TH ELECTION WITH BOTH.
NOW, KNOWING HOW ONE VOTES, I'M MORE EXCITED THAN NERVOUS TO CAST MY BALLOT THIS FALL.
THE SECOND TESTIMONIAL COMES FROM ONE OF THOSE JUDGE IVES, SUSAN IVES.
SUSAN STATES I AM AN ELECTION JUDGE AT LEON SPRINGS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
MOST OF OUR VISITORS VOTERS LIVE IN THE DOMINION OR THE BEXAR COUNTY PART OF BERNIE COME NOVEMBER.
MY HUSBAND, JOHN AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING THERE TEN YEARS.
DURING THE PAST TWO ELECTIONS, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE HAVE HAD HIGH SCHOOL CLERKS IN THE MAY 4TH GENERAL SPECIAL ED BOND ELECTION, PHARYNGEAL OR CELL. A SENIOR SOON TO BE GRADUATE AT CLARK HIGH SCHOOL WORKED FOR HOURS AS LUNCH RELIEF.
SHE WAS PROFESSIONAL, QUICK ON THE UPTAKE AND GREAT WITH THE VOTERS.
WE EXPECTED THE MAY 28TH RUNOFF TO BE VERY SLOW, BUT TO OUR SURPRISE, WE HAD 177 VOTERS.
HE, TOO, WAS PROFESSIONAL, SMART AND CONGENIAL.
BOTH STUDENTS DEALT WITH THE OCCASIONAL INAPPROPRIATE REMARK WITH GRACE AND POISE.
DO VOTE IN THE QUICK REMAINING TIME.
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UNIVERSITY. EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS BROUGHT AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF ENERGY, THE ABILITY TO LEARN QUICKLY.OUR AVERAGE JUDGE IN THIS SYSTEM IS 69 YEARS OLD.
I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU AS A YOUNG JUDGE, FOUR YEARS INTO MEDICARE.
WE NEED TO DEMYSTIFY THE PROCESS OF VOTING.
AS WAS STATED EARLIER MORE EXCITED THAN NERVOUS.
WE NEED YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE EXCITED AND UNDERSTAND AND DEMYSTIFY THE PROCESS IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO HELP US PUT ON OUR PROGRAMS, AND WE ASK THAT THE COMMISSION AND JUDGE CONTINUE TO HELP US BREAK DOWN BARRIERS WITHIN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND BRING MORE YOUTH INTO THE VOTING SYSTEM.
I BELIEVE MY STAFF IS IN CONTACT WITH YOU, HEATHER, BUT I'D LIKE MORE COMMUNICATION.
CONVERSATION WITH THE STUDENTS.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
SO I'VE ALERTED MY STAFF TO DO THAT.
ALL RIGHT. YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.
ALL RIGHT. JUDGE VERONICA VASQUEZ.
JUDGE, I KNOW YOU GOT A BUSY DAY, BUT LET'S.
YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
YES. AND THIS IS NOT PROBATE RELATED, SO.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT PROBATE.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.
I AM ACTUALLY HERE JUST ASKING FOR A REQUEST IN THE BUDGET TO HAVE BULLETPROOF FILM ON THE OUTSIDE, PUT ON THE OUTSIDE OF MY DOOR, IF YOU RECALL. SO UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT AT THE COURTHOUSE YESTERDAY.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE AWARE.
MY MY DOOR IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE ENTRANCE ON NUEVA AND DWYER.
IT DOES NOT HAVE BULLETPROOF FILM.
AND I HAVE BEEN I'VE REQUESTED IN WRITING TWICE.
THE DOOR MONITORS DO A GREAT JOB ON THAT ENTRANCE.
HOWEVER, IF IT WAS AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION THAT MY OFFICE IS THE FIRST ONE THERE WITH GLASS, I HAVE EITHER REQUESTED GLASS THERE OR FOR A WALL TO BE PUT THERE BECAUSE I AM THE CLOSEST TO THE ENTRANCE.
THEY DO. IF THEY WANT IT TO BREACH SECURITY, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
AND SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OTHER COURTS IN THE COURTHOUSE DO HAVE BULLETPROOF FILM.
I AM THAT OFFICE ALSO FACING THE STREET.
SO IF SOMEONE DID WANT TO ACTIVELY SHOOT UP THE COURTHOUSE, I WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE THERE.
SO I AM JUST REQUESTING FOR MY COURTROOM.
I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PROBATE COURTS.
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ME AND MY STAFF BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SECURITY BREACHES AND CLOSE TO MY OFFICE, AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING FOR THAT TO BE A BUDGET ITEM FOR THE PROTECTION OF MYSELF AND MY STAFF.
AND IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY ALSO APPREHENDED SOMEONE WITH A KNIFE OUTSIDE MY DOOR.
THANK YOU. JUDGE, JUDGE, I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS BUREAU, BUT YOU'RE HERE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOUR STATUS AND THE ISSUE YOU'RE BRINGING TO US. SO I'M GOING TO GOING TO.
ENGAGE WITH YOU, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GENERALLY DO THAT.
SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS HAVE HAVE ALL THESE INCIDENCES BEEN REPORTED TO THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION AND ARE THEY BEING DOCUMENTED? AND THEN TWO ARE WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF DOCUMENTATION WITHIN THE COURTHOUSE? BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF PERHAPS A BREACH OF SECURITY FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
SO I PRESUME THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT IS WITH THE SHERIFF.
SO AND I'M NOT ASKING THE SHERIFF TO WEIGH IN.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF GETTING THESE ISSUES AND INCIDENCES DOCUMENTED.
SO CHIEF FLETCHER IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB.
HE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AFTER THE INCIDENT YESTERDAY, HE WAS MADE AWARE, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY MY BAILIFF THAT APPREHENDED THE PERSON THAT CAME IN WITH THE WEAPON AND TOOK HIM DOWNSTAIRS. WE DON'T HAVE THE OFFICIAL REPORT YET, SO I DON'T KNOW OFFICIALLY WHAT HAPPENED, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT SINCE I CANNOT MAKE THE NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I BROUGHT IT TO YOU ALL TO ASK FOR THAT SPECIFIC REQUEST.
BUT IT'S THE DOOR MONITORS THAT WILL ALSO ALERT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A SHERIFF THAT'S POSTED THERE AT SOME SOME POINT IN TIME.
AND I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE POLICE REPORT.
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I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I WOULD ASK IS, HAS THERE BEEN A CONVERSATION? WITH. THE REST OF THE COURT IN REGARDS TO OVERALL SECURITY.
I BELIEVE AS A FORMER DISTRICT COURT JUDGE, I BELIEVE JUDGE ARTEAGA TOOK LEADERSHIP IN GETTING A SECURITY ASSESSMENT DONE BY, I BELIEVE, BY THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES.
PERHAPS I THINK IT WAS THE US MARSHALS OFFICE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.
HAS HAS THAT STUDY BEEN IS IT NEED TO BE UPDATED? CAN THE JUDICIARY, MEANING ALL THE JUDGES SPEAK IN THEIR SECURITY NEEDS SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO NOW THAT I SIT IN THIS CHAIR, TO BE REAL BLUNT WITH YOU, I GOT TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST.
AND SO AND THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY OTHER JUDGES HAVE OTHER SECURITY ISSUES TOO? SO CAN YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR IS THERE SOMEBODY WE CAN TALK TO SO THAT THEN THEY CAN CONFER WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE AND WE CAN KNOW WHAT ALL THE NEEDS FOR SECURITY FOR THE JUDGES ARE? YES, SIR. AND JUDGE ARTEAGA IS THE LEADER IN THAT.
SHE IS THE ONE THAT HEADS THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY.
SHE'S THE ONE THAT ALERTED ALL THE REST OF THE JUDGES THAT WERE PART OF THE.
SHE HAS A SEPARATE APP FOR THAT.
SHE DOES SEND THAT INFORMATION OUT.
SO SHE WOULD BE THE POINT OF CONTACT.
I JUST WAS COMING TODAY ON ON MY REQUEST FOR THE BULLETPROOF FILM.
AND AGAIN, THIS I JUST THINK BEING ON THAT FIRST FLOOR ANY OF THE OFFICE OR ANY OF THE COURTROOMS THAT ARE FACING THE STREET ARE VULNERABLE AND PARTICULARLY MINE, BECAUSE I'M THE CLOSEST TO THE ENTRANCE, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTRANCE IN ORDER TO GET TO MY MY OFFICE.
THANK YOU. JUDGE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
[57. Approval of a request to delegate to the County Judge the authority to designate by written order to be filed in the official minutes of Commissioners Court one Deputy Constable per precinct as a weight enforcement officer upon successful completion of the free training provided by the Texas Department of Public Safety. The designated Deputy Constable from each precinct will be responsible for the weight enforcement duties in their respective precincts per Texas Transportation Code Section 621.4015.]
BUT I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT UP WITH AGENDA ITEM 57, APPROVAL OF A REQUEST.ALL RIGHT, SO, AGENDA 57, APPROVAL OF A REQUEST TO DELEGATE TO THE COUNTY JUDGE THE AUTHORITY TO DESIGNATE BY WRITTEN ORDER TO BE FILED IN THE OFFICIAL MINUTES OF COMMISSIONERS COURT ONE DEPUTY CONSTABLE PER PRECINCT AS A WAGE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
UPON SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE FREE TRAINING PROVIDED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, THE DESIGNATED DEPUTY CONSTABLE FROM EACH PRECINCT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT DUTIES IN THEIR RESPECTIVE PRECINCTS.
PER TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE SECTION 621.4015.
LET ME HAVE CONSTABLE VOJVODICH.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CITIZENS, BUT I'M GOING TO JUST ALLOW YOU TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THIS IS COMMISSIONER MOODY.
JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS COUNTY STAFF.
ALSO, A PRESENT WILL BE CONSTABLES FROM EACH OF THE PRECINCTS ON THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT, WEIGHT CONTROL OR MEASURES IS A PROGRAM THAT THE CONSTABLES LOOKED AT TO ADDRESS THE COUNTYWIDE ISSUE OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLE TRAFFIC, SPECIFICALLY THE OVERWEIGHT ISSUE.
OVERWEIGHT IS 18 WHEELERS THAT ARE OPERATING IN THE AREA.
THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF 80,000, IF YOU HAVEN'T KNOWN THAT BEFORE.
THE IMPLICATION IS THAT IS, IF YOU COME IN WITH A HEAVIER WEIGHT THAN THAT ON MOST ROADWAYS, FREEWAYS, YOU CAN CAUSE AND CREATE DAMAGE TO THE ROADWAY BY HAVING THE OVERWEIGHT VEHICLE.
IT'S ALSO A FACTOR IN CRASHES AND CRASH REPORTS.
WE ARE THE LARGEST METRO AREA CLOSEST TO THE BORDER.
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ENTERING FROM BOTH INTERNATIONAL NATIONAL TRAFFIC AS WELL AS STATEWIDE TRAFFIC.LOOP 16 044 TEN 151 AND A LOT OF THE AREAS IN THE SOUTHERN PRECINCTS IN PRECINCT ONE AND FOUR WE'VE LOOKED AT ADDRESSING THAT WITH ONE OFFICER IN EACH PRECINCT THAT WOULD BE TRAINED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AUTHORIZED TO USE AN APPROVED TYPE OF SCALE THAT IS USED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POSITION AND IT'S BEEN TESTED BY DPS FOR ACCURACY SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY WRITE AND ENFORCE THE VEHICLE WEIGHT LAWS COMING THROUGH EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE PRECINCTS.
AND IT TALKS ABOUT VEHICLE, COMMERCIAL VEHICLE MILEAGE, TRAFFIC ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND IN SAN ANTONIO THAT'S ABOUT 60 MILLION MILES.
IT'S BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN ABOUT HALF OF THAT ON FREEWAYS ABOUT 20 MILLION MILES ON AN AVERAGE DAILY OPERATION FOR ARTERIAL ROADWAYS IN OTHER AREAS. AND THEN OUR LOCAL ROADWAYS FOR DELIVERIES, YOU SEE 18 WHEELERS.
SO OUR WEIGHT LOADED BRIDGES THAT WERE WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY COUNCILS OR COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER MOODY.
AND I CAN TELL, WERE ANY OF THE OTHER CONSTABLES GOING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, OR SHOULD I GO AHEAD AND I'LL INVITE THE OTHER CONSTABLES TO COME UP? WHY DON'T YOU ALL ALL PLEASE STAND TOGETHER SINCE THIS ISSUE INVOLVES ALL OF YOU.
WOULD ADDRESS THE COURT ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHEDDING LIGHT ON THIS.
THIS THIS POSITION THAT I'VE HAD SINCE BLUNT'S CANDIDACY.
ANY CITATION CAN AVERAGE BETWEEN $5000 TO $15,000 PER STOP.
SO IT'S A GOOD REVENUE FUNDING FOR OUR PRECINCTS TO SUBSTANTIATE OUR EXISTENCE.
AND I WOULD BE FOOLISH TO GET UP HERE AND TELL YOU EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS ABOUT TRUCK ENFORCEMENT.
COMMISSIONERS, I'M DEPUTY HALL.
I WORK FOR MISS KATHERINE BROWN, OUR CONSTABLE.
WHEN I STARTED HERE, I STARTED UNDER THE PRETEXT OF TAKING OVER THE TRUCK ENFORCEMENT POSITION.
WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS DOING IT.
AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ONE OF US.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
EVERYBODY ELSE IS WORKING ON FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON DOING THE INSPECTIONS OF THE TRUCKS, GETTING THEM, YOU KNOW, THEIR STICKERS, PUTTING THEM OUT OF SERVICE AND WHATNOT. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY DOING WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT EXCEPT FOR ME.
I'M IT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND I STAY PRETTY BUSY.
LIKE CONSTABLE BROWN SAID, IT IS A HUGE REVENUE SERVICE, SO THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE.
BUT EVEN AT THAT, MY JOB IS NOT TO MAKE THE MONEY.
MY JOB IS TO TRY TO GET THEM IN COMPLIANCE.
SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE SITUATIONS THAT I RUN INTO WHERE EVEN IF THERE IS MORE MONEY TO BE MADE, WE TRY TO GET THEM IN COMPLIANCE AND BACK ON THE ROAD AND BACK WORKING BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A JOB TO DO.
MOST OF THE TRUCKS WE'RE STOPPING ARE EITHER COMING FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR PLANNINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT, OR COMING FROM THE HIGHWAY SERVICES LIKE I-10 AND I-35 THAT ARE BEING BUILT. IT'S SOMETHING I THINK EACH PRECINCT COULD BENEFIT FROM, BECAUSE WE ALL SUFFER THE SAME ISSUES OF HAVING TRUCKS THAT ARE RUNNING OVERWEIGHT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST THE RUTS IN THE ROAD A LOT OF TIMES.
I ACTUALLY RAN INTO ONE THE OTHER DAY.
BECAUSE THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT AND BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO STOP THEM.
AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING IT.
THEY'RE WORKING ON FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
SAPD IS WORKING ON FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SO THAT'S NOT THEIR PRIORITY.
GOOD MORNING. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS.
SO I WAS I USED TO BE DOWN 37 SOUTH, AND THEY HAD TWO PATROLMEN ASSIGNED TO TRAFFIC FOR THE
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COMMERCIAL, AND THEY WERE A NON STOP.SO CAN WE USE ONE? ABSOLUTELY. DO WE NEED THE TRAINING? ABSOLUTELY. SO YEAH, I'M ABSOLUTELY ON BOARD FOR ANY ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THIS.
THANK YOU CONSTABLE. CONSTABLE.
OH, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THE SAFETY ISSUE ON HAVING OFFICERS OUT ON THE HIGHWAYS.
I JUST MADE A TRIP TO FORT WORTH AND NOT ONE DPS OFFICER DID I SEE GOING AND COMING.
MOST OF THE THOROUGHFARES, THE BIG TRUCKS ARE COMING IN AT PARTICULAR TIMES, AND AND THERE'S NO VISIBILITY OF POLICE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR IN THE INNER BOUNDS OF THE SAN ANTONIO.
AND IT'S GETTING VERY DANGEROUS.
SO AND ALSO, JUST YESTERDAY, I WAS CALLED BY A PROPERTY OWNER HAVING THEIR FENCE CUT AND TRACTOR TRAILERS BEING BROUGHT IN ON HIS PROPERTY.
AND I SUSPECT THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRANSPORTING PEOPLE IN THOSE TRAILERS AND STUFF.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME UP THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE SURPRISED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT I'M HERE TO SUPPORT ALL, ALL THE OTHER THREE COUNCILS AND MYSELF.
I THINK WE CAN DO A VERY GOOD JOB.
I THINK IT WOULD BE ENLIGHTENING TO SEE OFFICERS OUT IN THE ON THE ROADWAY.
I THINK ALSO, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
I ALWAYS TELL MY OFFICERS, IF YOU SEE A TRAFFIC OFFICER OF ANY KIND, DON'T INTERFERE.
IF HE NEEDS YOU, HE HE WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING.
IF HE DOESN'T NEED YOU, HE PROBABLY WAVE YOU ON.
SO WE'RE NOT ENOUGH OFFICERS OUT IN THE ROAD.
AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME AND ALL MY STAFF AND ALL THE STAFFS OF THE CONSTABLES.
BUT I THINK VISIBILITY WOULD BE VERY, VERY GOOD FOR BEXAR COUNTY.
AND ASSISTING EACH OTHER WILL BE VERY GOOD IN BEXAR COUNTY.
SO WE'RE WE'RE HERE ALSO TO HELP THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, ANY OFFICER THAT'S OUT IN THE STREET, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE MORE OFFICERS OUT THERE AND BE VISUAL AND ALL THAT.
BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND AND CONSIDERATION.
WE REALLY NEED THIS, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MOODY.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK MARK VOJVODICH FOR, FOR CONTINUING TO TO HELP PUSH THIS ITEM FORWARD.
I THINK WE BROUGHT UP A COUPLE KEY POINTS HERE THAT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
A SAFETY ISSUE FOR FOR THESE TRUCKS, IF THEY'RE OUT THERE ON THE ROADS AND OVERLOADED.
INCREASING STOPPING DISTANCE POTENTIAL FOR FOR OTHER TRAFFIC INCIDENTS TO OCCUR.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT PROTECTING COUNTY PROPERTY, RIGHT.
IF THESE ROADS ARE NOT BUILT TO TO SUSTAIN MORE THAN THAT 80,000 POUNDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION.
AND I THINK THAT THIS TO ME MAKES, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IN TERMS OF AN ADD ON RESPONSIBILITY.
THE SHERIFF OBVIOUSLY HAS HAS A LOT OF YOU KNOW, THINGS ON HIS PLATE.
YOU KNOW IN OUR COMMUNITY, THIS IS A A SEEMS LIKE IT IS A GOOD FIT WITH EACH OF OUR CONSTABLES TO HELP SUPPORT THE ENFORCEMENT ON WEIGHT CONTROL ON OUR ROADWAYS.
AND I, YOU KNOW, FULLY SUPPORT IT.
I THINK IT'S IT'S NEEDED AND AND HAS A LOT OF BENEFITS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTY.
AND IT ALSO STANDARDIZES THE PROCESS.
RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY, EVERYONE JUST HEARD THAT PRECINCT FOUR IS DOING THIS TODAY.
AND THERE'S NO REASON THAT THE OTHER THREE PRECINCTS SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT AS WELL.
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GOING FORWARD AS WEIGHT CONTROL OFFICERS.THAT, THAT ONCE THEY'VE COMPLETED THE TRAINING AND THEY'VE BEEN SIGNED OFF BY THIS COURT.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
THANK YOU. JUDGE. CONSTABLE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
OFFICER. THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH CERTAIN TRAINING.
THERE'S ABOUT THREE WEEKS OF SPECIALIZED TRAINING FOR WHO ADMINISTERS THAT TRAINING.
AND TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
OKAY. AND IS IT A ONE TIME TRAINING OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE EVERY YEAR OR EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS? THERE'S CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR IT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE INITIAL TRAINING, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH AND DO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SUPERVISED INSPECTIONS WITH A SENIOR INSPECTOR, SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN DOING IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD BE PROVIDING SUPPORT AMONGST OURSELVES TO WE'RE NOT IN A VACUUM.
CONSTABLES WORK WITH EACH OTHER.
WE SHARE TRAINING MATERIALS AS WELL AS SAFETY.
WE WOULD ALSO HAVE WE HAVE A TRAINING COMPONENT IN THERE AS WELL THAT WE DON'T WANT TO.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE A SURPRISE TO THE LOCAL TRUCKING COMMUNITY.
WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM IN ADVANCE.
OKAY. AND WHAT WHAT IS THE THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S REQUIRED.
WHAT'S THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS REQUIRED TO TO ENFORCE THIS? WELL, BASICALLY, I COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN, YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS FROM YOUR OFFICER SCALES.
AND SO THE TRAINING THAT'S GOING TO BE ASSESSED IS A ONE TIME TRAINING.
SO IT'S A ONE TIME INVESTMENT.
HOW CAN I SAY IT? DO ON THE JOB TRAINING WITH OTHER ENTITIES IS WHAT WE WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH HALLS SO THAT WE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, STAYED ABREAST OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND THE INITIAL TRAINING GETS THEM KIND OF CERTIFIED.
THAT IS CORRECT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT.
AND THEN CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT, WHAT'S REQUIRED? WHAT ARE YOU USING NOW AND WHAT WILL THE OTHER CONSTABLE OFFICES NEED TO ENFORCE? ABSOLUTELY. THERE WILL BE A BUDGET THAT HAS TO GO WITH THIS POSITION.
I'LL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO HALL, IF YOU COULD JUST LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU HAD COME UP WITH.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION PRETTY SIMPLY, I NEED A TRUCK, SOMETHING TO TRANSPORT, SCALES AND SCALES, A MEASUREMENT WHEEL, A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE THINGS JUST TO STOP THE TRUCK FROM ROLLING BACK ON ME WHILE I'M UNDER IT AND PUTTING THE SCALES IN.
AND SOMETHING TO MEASURE HEIGHT FOR WHEN IT COMES TO, AGAIN, STATE LAW.
BUT REALLY IT'S A TRUCK, A BOX AND SOME SCALES, OKAY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE ALREADY UTILIZING IN IN PRECINCT FOUR.
YES. IS THAT RIGHT. SO WE HAVE EQUIPMENT.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH VENDORS TO GET THAT DONE.
OKAY. AND I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN WE FIRST WERE PRESENTED THIS IDEA, I'LL BE HONEST, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS YOU KNOW, A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M TRUSTING THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO KEEP YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
DO THE RIGHT THING PROTECT OUR THOROUGHFARES.
BUT YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT BUDGETED.
SO I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE THAT BUDGETED.
DAVID, IS THAT RIGHT? NO. IN FACT, WHEN THE SIGHTING CAME FORWARD, WE WERE TOLD THERE WOULD BE NO FISCAL IMPACT.
THAT THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, TOO.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH THIS IS GOING TO COST US.
YEAH. OUR COUNTY MANAGER IS CORRECT.
THE TRAINING IS AT NO COST TO US OTHER THAN SALARIES.
SO OUR MAIN PURPOSE IS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT TRAINING DONE NOW.
AND WE HAVE PLACED IN OUR REGULAR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR ANY KIND OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED LATER ON DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS ON EACH OF THESE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT, AND WE OFFSET IT, OR WE HAVE INFORMATION ON WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL REVENUE.
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BUT INITIALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME BECAUSE IT TAKES US LITERALLY IF WE HAVE TO RECRUIT AN OFFICER AND SEND THEM FOR TRAINING, AND THEN IT'S NOT EVERY OFFICER WHO CAN COMPLETE THIS TRAINING.IT HAS A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS IN MATH AND INTERPRETATION.
SO BY THE TIME WE GET SOMEBODY BACK OUT OF THAT, IT MIGHT BE FOUR WEEKS, SIX WEEKS.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET THEM OUT WHERE THEY'RE WORKING WITH A ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ALREADY TO GET THEIR 30 INSPECTIONS, I BELIEVE IT'S 30 BEFORE WE'RE READY TO ACTUALLY EVEN GO OUT ON OUR OWN WITH EQUIPMENT.
AND THEN WITH OUR REGULAR BUDGET PROPOSALS, WE WOULD OUTLINE ANY KIND OF EQUIPMENT OR EXPENDITURES.
AND SO THAT IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED FROM EACH OF THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.
IS THAT CORRECT? HAVE THE AMOUNTS IF YOU WANT THEM.
YEAH. IF YOU HAVE THE AMOUNTS THAT'D BE GREAT.
HOWEVER, THE CITATIONS WILL PAY FOR THAT.
AND PROBABLY SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
YEAH, I GET THAT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT $400,000 TOTAL.
THAT IS CORRECT FOR THE COUNTY.
AND SO THAT'LL BE PART OF I GUESS YOUR YOUR SUBMITTAL CONSTABLE TO THE CONSTABLE VASQUEZ, YOU GUYS ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL WHEN YOU ASK FOR.
OKAY, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE THE ACTUAL OFFICER, LIKE OFFICER HAUL DO THEY GET SUPPLEMENTAL PAY FOR THIS KIND OF CERTIFICATION? WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.
OKAY. OKAY, SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT TYPICALLY WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT ADDS RESPONSIBILITIES THEN YOU HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT COMES WITH IT.
SO OKAY, SO, SO ABOUT 400,000, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED NEW EQUIPMENT IN PRECINCT FOUR, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO ABOUT 400,000.
AND THEN THE OTHER CONSTABLES.
HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED A PERSON ALREADY TO DO THIS IN YOUR RESPECTIVE OFFICES? OKAY, CONSTABLE VASQUEZ.
I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF ANYBODY JUST YET, BUT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE QUALIFIED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING BACK, I'M LISTENING TO YOU, EVERYONE TALKING, AND I'M THINKING OF YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE USED TO DO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A PICK UP AND THEY WOULD LOOK FOR AN OPEN AREA, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY DO IT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY SAPD DOES IT.
AND IT'S IT'S SCALES THAT THEY BRING OUT OF THEIR TRUCK.
AND, AND THEY WEIGH THESE TRUCKS AND THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE CODES AND STUFF.
SO BUT YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED IN IT.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS OFFICER THAT WE DO CHOOSE IS TRAINED CORRECTLY.
SO AND I MEAN IN OUR INVENTORY WE ALREADY HAVE A PICKUP THAT'S ORDERED AND WE'RE WAITING.
YOU KNOW WE'RE JUST WAITING BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE VEHICLES ARE BACKLOGGED.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE A TRUCK COMING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO ORDER ONE.
YEAH. AND LOOK, I'M NOT OBJECTING TO PEOPLE GETTING THE TRAINING.
I JUST YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET SOMETHING FROM BUDGET, I CAN'T COMMIT TODAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN SUPPORT IN OUR BUDGET, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE OTHER REQUESTS THAT COME IN.
I'M. I'M CERTAIN, FROM YOUR OFFICES.
SO WE'LL NEED YOU TO PRIORITIZE THAT FOR US IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE MOST PRESSING NEEDS.
BUT AGAIN, I CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF OF YOU ALL GETTING SOMEBODY TRAINED.
BUT THAT OTHER DISCUSSION IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE GET TO THE BUDGET.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR YOUR INDIVIDUAL OFFICES, BUT I'M CERTAIN YOU'VE GOT OTHER BUDGET REQUESTS THAT ARE FORTHCOMING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THOSE AS WELL. CONSTABLE, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? OF COURSE, IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE COURTS TO DEAL WITH, SO.
THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SOMETIMES SETS UP UNDER THE BRIDGE ON ZARZAMORA AND 35.
THERE'S MUCH TRAFFIC COMING, MORE AND MORE COMING ON 35 AND ON 37 GOING NORTH.
SO WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME.
AND 37 AFFECTS NOT ONLY PRECINCT ONE BUT ALSO PRECINCT FOUR AND ALSO 35.
THEY CAN DIVERT AND GO ANOTHER ROUTE.
BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT THE TRAFFIC IS INCREASING.
MORE AND MORE TRUCKS ARE COMING IN.
AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE TRUCK.
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DOWN WHAT THEY'RE TRANSPORTING AT THE TIME, BUT A LOT OF THESE TRUCKS ARE MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY AND THE MAJORITY ON 35 THROUGH EXPERIENCE MORE AND MORE.THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FAST LANE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
SOMETIMES THREE AND FOUR TRUCKS ARE ON THE FAST LANE, AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
AND SOMETIMES THEY BOTTLENECK THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LANES ON 35 COMING IN.
RIGHT. SO SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK A START OF THIS KIND IS GOOD.
SO LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE OTHER.
I THINK SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT SOME OF THIS IS I GUESS COMMERCIAL VEHICLES GOING THROUGH YOU KNOW, NON-HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW, NON THOROUGHFARES, RIGHT? YES. CONNECTOR STREETS.
WOULD YOU NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP THAT INDIVIDUAL IF THERE WAS SIMPLY A NO NO TRUCKS SIGN? NO. DOESN'T THAT GIVE YOU SOME AUTHORITY TO STOP THEM REGARDLESS OF THEIR WEIGHT? IT'S CALLED PROBABLE CAUSE.
YOU NEED TO HAVE A REASON WHY.
SO AS A COUNTY, WE CAN ONLY ENFORCE IT IF THEY'RE CERTIFIED.
I'M A LITTLE TALLER. YEAH. IT'S OKAY.
SO AS A COUNTY, WE CAN ONLY ENFORCE IT IF THEY'RE CERTIFIED.
CITY OFFICERS HAVE CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS THAT THEY CAN UPHOLD.
WE TRY TO AVOID DOING THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES THE DRIVERS POINTS.
THEY HAVE TO STOP WORKING AND A THREE YEAR PERIOD.
SO I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTY WHO CAN WRITE THEM FOR THOSE.
WE CALL THEM LOAD ZONE ROADS, WHERE IT SAYS, HEY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MAXIMUM WEIGHT OR NO TRUCKS.
OKAY, OKAY, SO THE SIGNAGE ISN'T ENOUGH FOR US.
THE SIGNAGE DOESN'T DOESN'T MATTER.
IT DOES. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT AS ENFORCED OR ENFORCEABLE AS WE WOULD HOPE.
COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
YES, DAVID BUDGET IS LETTING ME KNOW THAT ALL FOUR CONSTABLE OFFICES IN THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS HAVE REQUESTED A NEW POSITION TO DO THIS. WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT.
OKAY. ARE YOU GOING SOMEWHERE? AM I JUST KIDDING? OH, MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO GET A PROMOTION THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
SO. SO THEY PUT IN FOR THE FOUR POSITIONS, BUT NOT THE EQUIPMENT YET.
SOME OF THEM HAVE REQUESTED THE EQUIPMENT.
THAT'S THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.
YEAH. SO I DID SPEAK WITH MY CONSTABLE AND SAL AS WELL.
AND SPEAKING TO CONSTABLE TEJADA, HE HAD A REALLY GOOD IDEA OR TALKED ABOUT.
LET'S LOOK AT THE RESULTS IN A YEAR AND HAVE AN EVALUATION.
BUT IF YOU GUYS CAN COME BACK IN A YEAR TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKED, WHAT KIND OF REVENUE HAS COME IN AND OUT, HOW IT'S WORKED FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL CONSTABLE PRECINCTS? THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
COMMISSIONER MOODY, DID YOU WANT TO? ADD ANYTHING ELSE.
NO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE'VE COVERED A LOT HERE.
OBVIOUSLY WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE FLESHING OUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU KNOW WE CAN INCLUDE GOING FORWARD IN THE BUDGET.
BUT I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.
AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM OUR COUNCIL.
ALL RIGHT. LET ME KIND OF PUT A WRAP ON THIS.
CONSTABLE'S FIRST. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL.
I APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL ALL CAME AS A GROUP TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION.
COMMISSIONER MOODY, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THIS ISSUE AND BRINGING IT FORWARD.
IT HAS REQUIRED A LOT OF CONVERSATION.
AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BASICALLY QUESTIONS AND AND OTHER ISSUES.
OBVIOUSLY, TODAY THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS AND OTHER ISSUES, ESPECIALLY BUDGETARY.
SO I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER MOODY.
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AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SUPPORT THE CONSTABLE'S IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.BUT CONSTABLES, WE WILL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET.
SO WITH THAT, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.
MR.. ALL RIGHT. LET US GO BACK TO TIME.
CERTAIN. AND COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
GOOD. I THEY WEREN'T DONE YET BUT I RUSHED OVER.
LET US TAKE UP ITEM TWO PRESENTATION OF A STATUS UPDATE FROM ALAMO TRUST, THE DETAILING PROGRESS
[5.b. 10:30 a.m. - Presentation of a status update from Alamo Trust, Inc. detailing progress on key goals and expenditures for the creation of the Alamo Visitor Center and Museum.]
ON KEY GOALS AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE CREATION OF THE ALAMO VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.THANK YOU, JUDGE. FOR THE RECORD, THOMAS GUEVARA, OFFICE OF THE COUNTY MANAGER.
WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY FROM THE ALAMO TRUST.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF COURT MEMBERS WHO WERE NOT HERE AT THE TIME.
BUT IN JULY OF 2021, COMMISSIONERS COURT DID APPROVE A MATCHING GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE ALAMO TRUST IN THE AMOUNT OF $5 MILLION PER YEAR FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, IN A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 25 MILLION FOR THE CREATION OF THE ALAMO VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.
TODAY WE HAVE BOTH KATE ROGERS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND HOPE ANDRADE PART OF THE THE THE LEADERSHIP TEAM THERE TO PRESENT A STATUS UPDATE DETAILING PROGRESS ON KEY GOALS AND EXPENDITURES FOR OUR AGREEMENT.
SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE KATE AND HOPE.
IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING BOTH COMMISSIONER MOODY AND COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES AND THEIR STAFF MEMBERS FOR THEIR SERVICE ON OUR MUSEUM PLANNING COMMITTEE, WHICH IS HELPING US TO DEVELOP THE NARRATIVE AND THE INTERPRETIVE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.
SO WE'RE GRATEFUL AND WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY AND PLEASED TO HAVE THE TIME WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
THESE SLIDES WERE PRESENTED BY GENSLER, OUR ARCHITECT OF RECORD, ON THE PROJECT.
SO THIS GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE MISSION ERA.
THIS IS A SLIGHTLY LATER PHOTO, OBVIOUSLY MORE TOWARDS THE 20TH CENTURY.
AND THEN WE GET INTO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.
WE'RE, WE'RE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO DO AN ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THESE THREE BUILDINGS.
OUR INTENT IS TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THE HISTORIC FABRIC AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT INCLUDES THE FACADES AS WELL AS THE LIMESTONE WALLS WITHIN THE CROCKETT BUILDING IN PARTICULAR, AND AS MUCH OF THE THE WINDOW MATERIAL, THE ORIGINAL TILE MATERIAL THAT IS STILL LOCATED IN THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING THAT REMAINS TO THIS DAY.
HERE, WHAT YOU SEE IS A CURRENT RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED VISITOR CENTER MUSEUM.
IT'S A TOTAL OF 160,000FT², WITH EIGHT GALLERIES AND AN EVENT CENTER UP ON TOP.
AND WE'RE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WE DID RECEIVE OFFICIAL APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN AS PLANNED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
HERE YOU SEE A RENDERING OF THAT FIRST FLOOR.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE MUSEUM, JUST LIKE THE CHURCH, THE LONG BARRACK, THE OUTDOOR EXHIBITS ON THE GROUNDS WILL ALWAYS REMAIN FREE TO THE PUBLIC, SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY TO SEE AND DO WITHOUT NEEDING TO PURCHASE A TICKET TO ENTER THE VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.
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WILL BE PLACED IN THIS SAME AREA, SO GUESTS WILL ENJOY THOSE AS WELL FOR FREE.AT THE BACK OF THE FIRST FLOOR IS RETAIL AND FOOD SERVICE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE.
THIS IS A DEPICTION OF THE CAFE.
IT WILL SIT NEXT TO THE RETAIL.
WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COURT THAT IT IS OUR INTENT AND WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO ALL OF OUR PUBLIC FUNDERS, INCLUDING YOU ALL, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, THAT ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, WE WILL BE SELF-SUSTAINING FROM AN OPERATIONS STANDPOINT, SO WE WON'T COME BACK AND ASK FOR OPERATIONAL DOLLARS TO KEEP THE PROJECT GOING.
THIS IS AN EXTERIOR VIEW OF THAT CAFE.
AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE HISTORIC CROCKETT BUILDING.
SO THAT IS ACTUALLY THE VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.
THAT'S THE AREA WE CALL THE UPPER PASEO.
ON THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IS ONE OF MANY EVENT RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WE'VE CREATED THESE AS WELL AS A STREAM OF REVENUE.
THIS IS A BOARDROOM THAT WILL BE OVERLOOKING THE CHURCH AND THE GROUNDS.
IT HAS ITS OWN TERRACE AND FOOD SERVICE OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THIS AS A UNIQUE VENUE FOR BOTH CONVENTIONEERS AND MEETINGS COMING TO SAN ANTONIO FROM OUT OF TOWN, BUT ALSO FOR OUR LOCAL PARTNERS AS WELL.
UP ON THE FIFTH FLOOR IS WHERE WE HAVE THE LARGEST OF THE EVENT SPACES.
SO YOU GET A REALLY NICE DEPICTION OF OUR BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ENTRANCE.
THIS IS A NICE RENDERING THAT SHOWS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THAT LOBBY LEVEL, AND AGAIN SHOWS YOU THE CAFE AT THE BACK, THE RETAIL ADJACENT, AND THE LOCATION OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS EXHIBIT. THIS IS A JUST A DIFFERENT DEPICTION OF THE LOBBY SPACE.
IN PARTICULAR. ON THE LEFT ARE VERY ROUGH RENDERING OF THOSE LOBBY VIGNETTES.
THEY WERE SELECTED BY GALLAGHER AND ASSOCIATES WHO IS OUR PROGRAM MANAGER ON THE PROJECT.
THE VIGNETTES ARE DESIGNED TO TELL THE FULL HISTORY OF THE ALAMO OVER ITS MANY ERAS, IF YOU WILL.
SO IT STARTS AT THE BEGINNING, 10,000 YEARS AGO, WITH THE DEPICTION OF INDIGENOUS POPULATION MOVES UP THROUGH THE MISSION ERA, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BATTLE AND UP TO THE. THE FINAL STATUE IS OF CLARA DRISCOLL AND ADINA DE ZAVALA, WHICH YOU SEE PICTURED IN THE CENTER BOTTOM AND TALKS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION ERA.
SO AGAIN, THESE ARE A FREE EXPERIENCE.
THE CIVIL RIGHTS EXHIBIT ALSO WILL BE LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEREFORE FREE.
YOU CAN ENTER THIS EXHIBIT FROM THE LOBBY OF THE MUSEUM, BUT YOU CAN ALSO ENTER OFF OF HOUSTON STREET THROUGH THE ORIGINAL ENTRANCE TO THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING, AND WE WILL KEEP THE ORIGINAL TILE THAT'S IN THE GROUND THERE IN THE FLOOR.
YOU CAN STILL SEE WHERE THE LUNCH COUNTER STOOD.
THERE'LL BE BOTH GRAPHIC ELEMENTS AS WELL AS DIGITAL ELEMENTS THAT WILL TELL THE FULL STORY.
AND WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE WHO'S HELPING US TO DETERMINE THE CONTENT FOR THIS GALLERY, MAKING SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHT THE APPROPRIATE LEADERS IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR LEADING THIS PEACEFUL MOVEMENT.
HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, THE FIRST TICKETED EXPERIENCE TAKES PLACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
A PRODUCTION IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT 4D, RIGHT, IT'S AN IMAX EXPERIENCE.
PLUS THE PHYSICAL ELEMENTS OF VIBRATION, SMOKE, EMBERS.
SO YOU REALLY GET A SENSE OF BEING THERE.
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SO SAY YOU'RE A CONVENTIONEER WHO'S COMING TO SAN ANTONIO, YOU HAVE LIMITED TIME.YOU COULD COME AND DO THIS EXPERIENCE AND FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOTTEN THE FULL HISTORY OF ALL THAT HAPPENED AT THE ALAMO, AND THIS IS JUST A DEPICTION OF THE SCENE DURING THE BATTLE OF 1836. THE GALLERIES ARE ALSO CHRONOLOGICAL IN NATURE.
THEY START AT THE TOP AND THE VISITORS WILL WORK THEIR WAY DOWN.
AND THAT'S A SEPARATE TICKETED EXPERIENCE.
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DO THE GALLERIES ALONE, THE GALLERIES AND THE THEATER ONE OR THE OTHER.
SO YOU THINK HISTORICALLY, VISITORS WOULD SPEND ROUGHLY 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR AT THE ALAMO? ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, YOU COULD SPEND A WHOLE DAY SEEING MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND SO WE WANT FOLKS TO YOU KNOW, SORT OF HAVE AN AGENDA, IF YOU WILL.
SO, AGAIN, YOU START IN THE YANAGUANA ERA.
THE GALLERIES ARE STILL UNDERWAY IN TERMS OF DESIGN, OBVIOUSLY.
SO WE'RE WE'RE JUST HEADED INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND THEN INTO CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF SELECTING A FABRICATOR, WHICH IS A REALLY EXCITING TIME TO BE ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES GALLERY IN PARTICULAR, IS THAT WE WANT TO CONVEY THE FACT THAT MANY OF OUR INDIGENOUS DESCENDANTS STILL LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY TODAY.
SO THIS IS NOT AN ERA OF HISTORY.
THIS IS A ONGOING HISTORY OF A SPECIFIC POPULATION.
THE MISSION ERA IS THE NEXT GALLERY, SO WE TALK ABOUT THE ARRIVAL OF THE SPANISH IN THE 1500S, MOVE ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THE SECULARIZATION OF MISSION SAN ANTONIO DE VALERO IN 1793.
IN THE MIDDLE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A KEY DIGITAL COMPONENT.
IT'S A WISHING WELL, AND IN IT IS FLOATING OBJECTS AND PEOPLE.
AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THEM AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THEM AND THE ROLE THEY PLAYED DURING THE MISSION ERA.
WE'LL DO A VERY IN-DEPTH LOOK AT LIFE AT THE MISSION, BOTH FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE SPANISH POPULATION, WHO IN THE FRANCISCAN FRIARS, BUT ALSO FROM THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO WERE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THE MISSIONS, INCLUDING THE ALAMO OR WHAT TODAY IS KNOWN AS THE ALAMO.
SO THIS REALLY COVERS THE PERIOD FROM 1805 TO 1835.
SO YOU'RE ON THE EVE OF THE BATTLE AT THAT TIME, RIGHT? SO YOU'VE GOT THIS WILL IS THE PLACE THAT WILL COVER A LOT OF CONFLICT, INCLUDING MEXICO'S YOU KNOW, OUR OWN RIGHT FOR FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE FROM SPANISH RULE.
AND SO YOU'LL SORT OF FEEL LIKE YOU'RE YOU'RE HEADED TO THE BATTLE AT THAT TIME.
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BATTLE GALLERY IS AN IMMERSIVE PROJECTION EXPERIENCE THAT WILL OFFER VISITORS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE TO BE THERE, INSIDE THE WALLS OF THE FORT IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF MARCH THE 6TH, AND THEN AFTERWARD, THERE'LL BE A SEGMENT THAT REALLY HELPS VISITORS TO UNDERSTAND THE BATTLE AGAIN FROM BOTH SIDES, FROM A MILITARY PERSPECTIVE IN PARTICULAR, AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE AFTERMATH AND AFTERWARD, OF COURSE, FOR, FOR MANY YEARS, THE ALAMO WAS SORT OF LEFT IN SHAMBLES UNTIL THE UNITED STATES ARMY TOOK UP OCCUPATION IN 1845, WHICH IS IMPORTANT PART OF OUR HISTORY.
THIS IS WHEN SAN ANTONIO WAS THE SEED OF SAN ANTONIO BECOMING MILITARY CITY, USA.
IT'S THE FIRST PLACE THAT THE UNITED STATES ARMY OCCUPIED IN TEXAS.
FIRST TIME THE CHURCH HAD A ROOF, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO THAT WILL LEAD US UP INTO THE 20TH CENTURY, WHEN TWO WOMEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, JUST LIKE MANY OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY, STEPPED IN TO SAVE SOME OF OUR MOST PRECIOUS HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
HERE IT WAS ADINA DE ZAVALA AND CLARA DRISCOLL.
IT'S ALSO THE TIME PERIOD WHEN THE THE TERM THE SHRINE OF TEXAS LIBERTY WAS REALLY COINED.
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AND AND WHERE THAT REALLY CAME FROM.IT WAS INDICATIVE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN AMERICAN HISTORY IN THAT TIME.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT MANY PEOPLE AROUND TEXAS, AROUND THE US, AROUND THE GLOBE, CAME TO KNOW THE STORY OF THE ALAMO THROUGH A MOVIE WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN EXACTLY HISTORICALLY ACCURATE, BUT IT STILL HOLDS FOND MEMORIES FOR PEOPLE.
AND PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY SUBMITTING.
TO CLOSE, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE A RECAP.
AND AGAIN, CANNOT SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH BECAUSE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ALLOW US TO SPEND SOME OF THE COUNTY DOLLARS ON PROFESSIONAL FEES, INCLUDING ARCHITECTURE, THE EXHIBIT DESIGN, ETC.
HAS ALLOWED US TO ENTER THIS PHASE WHERE WE CAN NOW ACTIVELY BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO YOU'LL KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN TERMS OF HOW THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE SPENT.
BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.
I WANT TO THANK YOUR ALAMO STAFF.
I THINK TWO OF YOUR STAFF ARE HERE TODAY, SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE.
BUT IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE COME BACK SINCE WE FIRST PASSED THAT.
WHERE DID THOMAS GO? OH, THERE HE IS. I WAS LIKE THOMAS, ISN'T IT? NO. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT IT SINCE LAST YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER. SO, PER THE AGREEMENT, COMMISSIONER.
AND AS IN COURT, AS YOU RECALL, WE DO HAVE TWO COURT LIAISONS.
THAT'S PRECINCT ONE, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES AND PRECINCT THREE.
SO I DO RELY ON BOTH THE ALAMO AND TO COORDINATE THROUGH THE TWO LIAISONS.
BUT WE DO HAVE IN THE AGREEMENT, AS KATE MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE AN ITEM THAT DOES ALLOW FOR THEM TO COME IN TO PRESENT THEIR PLAN AND THE REPORT ON THEIR BUDGET. RIGHT. AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
WE DID NOT DO THAT LAST, LAST GO AROUND, COMMISSIONER.
WE ACCEPTED THEIR PLAN, THEIR REPORT AND THEIR FINANCIAL AUDITS.
WE SHARED THAT WITH THE LIAISON, SOME OF THE COURT, AND WE PAY IT OFF ON THAT.
SO IF WE CAN HAVE THAT ANNUAL YOU GUYS COMING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE.
AND I SAY THAT SO THAT THE REST OF THE COURT JUST CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.
BECAUSE FRANKLY, IT'S BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTING WORKING WITH THE ALAMO.
AS YOU KNOW, KATE MANY OF THE VOICES OF PEOPLE OF COLOR, FIRST OF ALL, IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET THEM ON, EVEN THOUGH WE PASSED AN UNANIMOUS AMENDMENT FOR THE 25 MILLION, I HAVE THAT HERE, AND I'M GOING TO READ PART OF IT.
HAD TO CONTINUOUSLY ASK, WHY AREN'T THESE PEOPLE ON YET? AND WHY AREN'T THESE PEOPLE ON YET? WHY AREN'T THESE PEOPLE ON YET? AND THEN FINALLY GETTING PEOPLE ON THERE WHO SHARE A VOICE OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE ALAMO? INDIGENOUS PEOPLE LACKS AND HAVE BEEN MET WITH VERY IT'S BEEN JUST A VERY HOSTILE.
OF COURSE, WE CAN'T GET INTO THE DETAILS HERE BECAUSE WE WERE ALL.
WELL, I GUESS I WAS FORCED TO SIGN WHAT'S IT CALLED? MARCUS? NDA.
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SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO REMIND EVERYONE WHAT THIS COURT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.IT IS HISTORICAL FACT THAT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ELSEWHERE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THERE IS A MOVEMENT TO TRY TO REWRITE. TEXAS HISTORY IN SILENCE.
VOICES. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO FIRST OF ALL, BE A PART OF THE ALAMO.
$25 MILLION IS NO SMALL CHUNK OF CHANGE.
AND SO PART OF THAT, THE SECOND PART OF THE AMENDMENT READ AS FOLLOW THAT I READ THE PERPETUATION OF RACIST WORDING, LANGUAGE, SYMBOLS AND TEACHING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN RELATION TO THE ALAMO MUSEUM.
HISTORICAL FACTS WILL NOT BE AMENDED, BUT INSTEAD EXPLAINED IN THE RELEVANT CONTEXT OF THAT TIME.
THIS IS PART OF THE AMENDMENT THAT I WROTE THAT EVERYONE APPROVED MY FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE.
AND SO I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF WE CAN HONOR THAT.
TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE BEFORE THE NEXT $5 MILLION IS ALLOCATED.
AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE PUT THIS $5 MILLION IN THE BUDGET.
WE HAVE YET TO DO THE BUDGET SEASON.
SO I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE.
AND I SPEAK FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HERE WHO CAN'T SPEAK.
AND THAT'S WHY WE PUSH THE $25 MILLION IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE DISCUSSION FOR $25 MILLION.
SO I'D LIKE FOR THE ALAMO TO HONOR THAT.
AND TO HONOR THE COMMITMENT THAT WAS MADE.
SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUDGE, IF I MAY.
I JUST WANT TO THANK KATE FOR FOR BEING HERE AND PRESENTING AND GIVING EVERYONE AN UPDATE TODAY.
TO JONATHAN AND THE REST OF THE THE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM THERE.
YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE WITH WITH YOU HAS BEEN PURELY PROFESSIONAL.
COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN STRONG.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THE THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE BEEN A PART OF, I FEEL THERE'S A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF VOICES BEING HEARD AT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.
AND EVERYONE IS BEING BEING HEARD.
AND SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT WE HAVE THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT VOICES, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY EVERYONE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER IN ALL OF THIS.
AND I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE WE WANT TO ENSURE EVERYONE'S HEARD, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN THING WITH THE ALAMO. WHEN WE HAVE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF VISITORS FROM FROM NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, TEXAS, NOT JUST THE UNITED STATES, BUT ALL OVER THE WORLD.
THEY THEY COME HERE TO HEAR THE STORY OF THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY VISIT THE ALAMO.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO IS IS WHY THE STATE OF TEXAS IS INVESTING HALF $1 BILLION IN OUR CITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN THING.
WE WENT THROUGH TWO COMMISSIONERS BEFORE YOU, AS YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR AFFIRMING THAT, COMMISSIONER MOODY.
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MR. RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU.JUDGE. KATE, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE BUDGET ON THERE? I DON'T KNOW WHO'S CONTROLLING THAT, BUT IT WAS THE, I THINK ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES.
YES, SIR. THIS ONE HERE. YEAH.
I KNOW THIS IS ALSO A VERY UNIQUE PROJECT.
THEY DO THE WORK AND THEN THEY'RE DONE.
SO WHY IS IT THAT THERE IS IT SHOWS A ALMOST A $4 MILLION ARCHITECTURAL FEE THAT'S ONGOING EVERY.
IS THAT WHAT I'M READING CORRECTLY? I'M GOING TO START TO SEE THOSE ARCHITECTURAL FEES GO DOWN AND CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE WE WE JUST NOW THIS FALL IN FACT IN AUGUST WILL COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THE PHASES OF DESIGN AND HONESTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY DIDN'T CONVEY QUITE CLEARLY, BUT THE COUNTY MONEY ENABLED US TO DO THAT. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE WAS UNWILLING TO FUND.
AND WE'RE RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT.
THIS BUILDING WE JUST SIGNED THE THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MUSEUM.
IT'LL BE ABOUT $185 MILLION WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDING EXHIBITS.
YEAH. SO THE ARCHITECTURAL FEES WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THE 12 TO $15 MILLION RANGE.
YEAH, I JUST NEEDED A REFRESHER ON THAT.
I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY, WHEN WE DID THIS A FEW YEARS AGO, WAS KIND OF THE FIRST ONE IN ON THE ALAMO.
I LIKE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I WAS AT THE STATE AND THEY DRAGGED THEIR FEET, BUT THEY'RE COMING ALONG, AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE THEY WERE PART OF, I THINK THEIR INCENTIVE FOR INVESTING IN THIS PROJECT WAS BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY'S INITIAL COMMITMENT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOOTHOLD MOVING.
SO. OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THAT.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS THAT IS WHAT'S THE TIMELINE AGAIN? I KNOW YOU RAN THROUGH SOME SLIDES THE FALL IN SEPTEMBER.
WE ACTUALLY BEGAN CONSTRUCTION IN THE FALL.
IT'S ANOTHER 50 MILLION FOR THE EXHIBITS INSIDE THE BUILDING.
THE TOTAL PROJECT OVERALL IS $550 MILLION.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THE STATE PUT IN 400 MILLION DURING THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
TO DATE, WE'VE RAISED A LITTLE OVER 60 MILLION IN PRIVATE FUNDING TO HELP GET US TO COMPLETION.
OKAY. SO SO YOU'RE STILL A LITTLE BIT SHORT OF THE THE ULTIMATE NUMBER WE ARE.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT NUMBER MAY BE FLUCTUATING A LITTLE BIT.
YES. AS YOU KNOW INFLATION SETS IN AND SUPPLY CHAIN THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU'LL GET THERE.
OH YES. BETWEEN A COMBINATION OF, OF STATE, COUNTY, LOCAL AND PRIVATE DOLLARS.
YES, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
JUDGE. ANY OTHER COMMENT QUESTIONS? LET ME JUST THANK KATE.
KATE, THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO MY OFFICE.
THE BRIEFING WITH ME AND MY ENTIRE TEAM WAS VERY FRUITFUL AND ENLIGHTENING AND HELPED ME UNDERSTAND AND HELP ME CATCH UP, SO TO SPEAK, SINCE I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED.
SO I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE EXPECTATIONS.
NOT DIRECTIVE, BUT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR YOU, THOMAS.
LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND DESIGNATE A DATE EITHER AROUND THIS TIME OR WHATEVER TIME IS MOST CONVENIENT OR MOST CONDUCIVE TO A BRIEFING, SO THAT THERE'S NOT A MISUNDERSTANDING.
LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND COMMIT TO THAT.
THEN ALSO TO EITHER THE COURT OR THE ALAMO TRUST HAS A RIGHT TO ASK FOR A MEETING FOR WHATEVER CIRCUMSTANCE COMES UP. SO BUT LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND PLAN THAT.
AND THEN WITHIN THOSE BRIEFINGS, I WOULD ANTICIPATE ONCE WE GET THAT DATE CERTAIN, THEN YOU CAN GIVE NOTICE TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN AND INDIVIDUALLY BRIEF THEM. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THE DATE OF THIS ANNUAL REVIEWS COMING.
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AND HERE'S OUR.AND SO EACH COMMISSIONER OBVIOUSLY HAVE VERY, VERY BUSY SCHEDULES.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GET AN AGREED DATE SOMETIME.
SO LET'S JUST TRY TO COORDINATE THAT AND LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD.
AND I APPRECIATE THE REPORT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
OKAY. AND FREE DAYS FOR COUNTY FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS.
OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
WE DID TAKE UP ONE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.
[54. Awarding a purchase order to the lowest, most responsive bid submitted by Gateway Printing & Office Supply, Inc. for the purchase of office furniture for the Precinct 4 Satellite Office in the base bid amount of $642,351.53, plus $25,000 of owner contingency, for a grand total award of $667,351.53, as requested by the Facilities Management Department; and authorizing the Purchasing Agent to execute and file appropriate award documents for record, and approval of the appropriate budget transfer.]
PRINTING AND OFFICE SUPPLY FOR THE PURCHASE OF OFFICE FURNITURE FOR THE PRECINCT, FOR SATELLITE OFFICE IN THE BASE BID AMOUNT OF 640 200 $351.53, PLUS 25,000 OF OWNER CONTINGENCY FOR GRAND TOTAL AWARD OF 660 700 $351.53 AS REQUESTED BY THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, AND AUTHORIZING IMPERSONATORS TO EXECUTE AND FILE APPROPRIATE AWARD DOCUMENTS FOR RECORD AND APPROVAL OF THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET TRANSFER.PRESENTATION BY MISTER DAN CURRY.
THANK YOU FOR READING THAT CAPTION.
IT'S QUITE WORDY. JUDGE DAN CURRY, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES MANAGEMENT.
GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, BACK IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE RELEASED AN IFB THROUGH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT FOR IT WAS CALLED THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT FOR OFFICE FURNITURE, BUT INCLUDE OFFICE FURNITURE FOR THE ENTIRE NEW PRECINCT SET FOR SATELLITE FACILITY ON THE 51 ACRES.
THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDED THE FURNITURE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION, THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
WE DID RECEIVE FOUR RESPONSES.
SO HERE IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE ACTUAL BID TAB FROM THAT SOLICITATION.
AS YOU CAN SEE, ALFRED WILLIAMS WAS A NO BID BASE BID FROM GATEWAY 642,000 AND CHANGE SKG TEXAS 888 AND CHANGE WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS 796 536.
SO DURING THE SOLICITATION, THERE WAS A QUESTION ARE SUBSTITUTIONS ALLOWED? SO AS PART OF THOSE RESPONSES PROVIDED IN THE OPEN SOLICITATION DOCUMENT THEY SAID THEY WERE SUBSTITUTIONS WERE ALLOWED AND THE COUNTY HAD FINAL APPROVAL OF THOSE SUBSTITUTIONS.
THE LOW BIDDER DID PROVIDE SUBSTITUTIONS.
WE ASKED A MEMBER OF THE DESIGN COMPANY SUB CONSULTANT THAT DID THE FURNITURE DESIGN FOR US AND SPECIFICATIONS TO REVIEW THOSE SUBSTITUTION REQUESTS. THE CONSULTANT DID PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO US AND MADE REFERENCES TO THEIR OPINION OF LESSER QUALITY PRODUCT THAT WAS SUBSTITUTED.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DISAGREES WITH THAT ASSESSMENT.
AND WE HAVE USED THE PRODUCT THEY'RE SPECIFYING ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AT OTHER FACILITIES.
AND SO, AGAIN, I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUDGE? COMMISSIONER, CAN I HEAR FROM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, PLEASE? WELL, HOLD ON. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISTER CURRY? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOR DAN, MISTER COMMISSIONER MOODY.
GOOD AFTERNOON. PATRICIA TORRES, PURCHASING AGENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICIA.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DISCREPANCY.
I'VE LOOKED AT A PAGE IN THE ACTUAL IFB WHERE IT INDICATED QUESTION SEVEN.
DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS AND SPECIFIED.
AND THE ANSWER THE COUNTY GAVE A SEVEN WAS NO.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THE RESPONSES TO ALL QUESTIONS WAS RECEIVED BY THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT TEAM.
SO I WOULD ASK, CAN YOU THERE'S THERE'S YEAH.
SO DO YOU REPRESENT THAT THAT HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
WE'RE GOING TO GO ONE AT A TIME OKAY.
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STAND BACK, MR. CURRY. OKAY. ALSO QUESTION 14 WAS WILL WE ALLOW SUBSTITUTIONS FOR THE TECHNION SYSTEMS? AND THE ANSWER THE COUNTY GAVE WAS, QUOTE, SUBSTITUTIONS ONLY ALLOWED WITH THE EXPRESS APPROVAL OF THE USER.IS THAT ACCURATE IN THE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE COUNTY ONLINE? CORRECT. OKAY. ALSO THE RESPONSE RECEIVED BY THE FACILITY TEAM.
OKAY. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, I THINK SOME NEED FOR COLLABORATION AND JUST WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS RIGHT NOW. NOW IN JANUARY, ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGENDA, THERE ARE SOME PRECEDENTS FOR CONSISTENCY IN HOW WE DEAL WITH THINGS.
SO ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD, FOR EXAMPLE, IN JANUARY WAS ON THE AT&T, THE FROST BANK CENTER.
WE HAD KIND OF A CASE I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER WHERE A COMPANY WAS THE LOWEST BIDDER, BUT THEY COLLABORATED WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND PURCHASING AND THEY DECIDED THAT THE CAPTION WOULD BE AWARDING A CONTRACT TO THE NEXT LOWEST RESPONSIBLE AND RESPONSIVE BIDDER, HARPER BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION. DO YOU RECALL THAT? YES, I DO, OKAY.
AND ALSO IN FEBRUARY THE AGENDA, FEBRUARY 20TH THERE WAS A LOW BID THAT WAS AWARDED.
EXCUSE ME, THAT WAS NOT AWARDED TO AZTECA CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, BUT IT WAS AWARDING A PURCHASE ORDER TO THE LOWEST AND MOST RESPONSIVE BID SUBMITTED BY ALL PRO GENERAL CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT WAS THE FEBRUARY 20TH AGENDA.
DO YOU RECALL THAT ONE AS WELL? YES, SIR. OKAY.
SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT I NEED THE COURT TO BE AWARE OF.
IS IT MISSING 14 CHAIRS FROM THE BID? THERE ARE MULTIPLE LINES MISSING.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE ITEMS MISSING.
SO GATEWAY DID NOT MEET ALL SPECIFICATIONS THAT'S REQUIRED.
SO THAT MAKES HIM AN UNRESPONSIVE BIDDER.
SO IN TERMS OF THE COURTROOMS I KNOW WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY HERE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THE STATE LAW REQUIRES IS SEATING IN COURTROOMS TO BE BOLTED SO THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT THROWING THEM.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE COURTROOM, THOSE SEATS ARE NOT BOLTED.
IS THAT RIGHT? GATEWAY DID NOT PROPOSE THAT THAT SPECIFICATION OR THAT SOLUTION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR CONSTABLE HERE AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROTECTING THE JUDGE AND EVERYONE FROM A COURT ISSUE THAT COULD ARISE BECAUSE OF AN EVICTION OR BECAUSE OF SOMEONE JUST BEING UPSET ABOUT THE SMALL CLAIMS PROCEEDINGS.
NOW THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE HAS INDICATED AS WELL THAT THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE SEATS, THAT THEY GO THROUGH A LOT OF SEATS BECAUSE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW LOT OF EQUIPMENT.
THAT EQUIPMENT WEIGHS THEM DOWN.
AND THE SEATS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE BREAK QUITE OFTEN.
AND SO I THINK THE CONSTABLE WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING ON THE GATEWAY BID? YES. OKAY.
IS THE FACT THAT THE TECHNION EQUIPMENT, WHICH WAS DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH FACILITIES, THE TAX ASSESSOR, COLLECTOR AND THE DESIGNERS IS TWO INCHES SMALLER.
SO THEREFORE IN THE DESIGN OF THE ELECTRICAL AND THE WALLS WHERE THE CUBICLES GO, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE COUNTY TO HAVE A CHANGE ORDER, WHICH WOULD MEAN GETTING THE WALLS MOVED, GETTING THE ELECTRICAL MOVED AND THE WALLS REDESIGNED, WHICH WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY A SIX FIGURE IMPACT AND A SIGNIFICANT DELAY.
IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CUBICLES THAT GATEWAY PROPOSED DO NOT FIT IN THE IN THE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT WE DESIGNED? YES. OKAY.
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SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS THERE ARE OVER 20 MISSING FIXTURES.COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE IN TERMS OF YOUR REVIEW OF WHY YOU BELIEVE THIS IS AN UNRESPONSIVE? THE GATEWAY IS AN UNRESPONSIVE.
SO IT IS NOT A FAIR COMPARISON.
SO THE COMPETITIVE BID DOES NOT ALLOW NEGOTIATIONS.
AND PURCHASING EVALUATION OF THE GATEWAY PRINTING AND OFFICE SUPPLY BID RESPONSE.
WE COMPARED IT LINE BY LINE EACH SPECIFICATION AND WE HAVE EVALUATED OUR DEEMED GATEWAY AS NON-RESPONSIVE OR NON-RESPONSIVE SINCE THERE WAS LINES MISSING. SO IT'S NOT A COMPLETE BID.
WE CANNOT COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.
SO THERE TO TO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS DISQUALIFIED.
THANK YOU. SO JUST IN TERMS OF PROCESS TODAY THERE WAS COLLABORATION IN THE PAST WITH FACILITIES, PUBLIC WORKS AND THERE ISN'T AS MUCH IN THIS CASE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST TO THE TAXPAYERS, ULTIMATELY, OF HAVING SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ORDERS.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING? DID I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, WHICH HAS YOUR NAME ON IT, WAS WRITTEN LIKE IN JANUARY BEFORE YOUR TEAM HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THESE MISSING ITEMS. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
OKAY. SO THE PROCESS NORMALLY WOULD BE, I THINK LED BY THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
THERE ARE STATE LAWS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW UNDER TWO 60 TWO.
TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF THE PROCESS FOR NON-RESPONSIVE BIDS.
BUT WHAT? TELL ME ABOUT OUR PROCESS.
RIGHT. SO NOT NON RESPONSIVE OR NON RESPONSIBLE.
YOU THERE ARE DEEMED OR NON RESPONSIVE AND NON RESPONSIBLE.
AND SO THERE RESULTED IN DISQUALIFICATION.
SO THE NEXT TWO SO TWO BID RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED BY SKG TEXAS AND WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS THAT DID MEET ALL SPECIFICATIONS. AND ARE TO BE CONSIDERED.
THERE WE SET ASIDE ENOUGH MONEY TO DEAL WITH THE MOST RESPONSIVE NEXT BIDDER.
SO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN EMPTY BUILDING BECAUSE OF DELAYS.
SO WE SHOULD GET THIS, YOU KNOW, MOVING AND ON.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
WHEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING TODAY AND HAVE THE MOST RESPONSIVE LOW BIDDER AWARDED.
SO JUDGE, I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR WORK FOR WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS, THE MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER.
AND LOWEST COST, MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
IS THERE A SECOND? LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING.
SO HE'S MAKING A MOTION FOR THIS FOR WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
NO, THE COMMISSIONER CALVERT, CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT YOUR MOTION? SURE. IT WAS FOR WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS WHO WAS RESPONSIVE TO ALL THE FURNITURE.
GATEWAY DID NOT HAVE ALL THE FURNITURE IN THEIR BID AND THEREFORE ARE DEEMED UNRESPONSIVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? JUST I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT A SECOND.
OTHERWISE, WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT MOTION.
HEARING. NO SECOND MOTION FAILS.
LET'S CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR.
WE'LL YIELD TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE.
COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU HAD QUESTIONS? YOU MAY ASK.
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MADE, YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT FROM OUR POSITION WHEN WE HAVE STAFF THAT HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHAT IS RESPONSIVE AND WHAT IS NOT.BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME NOW TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS, THEN LET'S DO IT.
COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER DAN CURRY, DO YOU DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY? YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S FAIRLY OPEN ENDED.
I CAN GO INTO SOME OF THE TOPICS, IF YOU LIKE, OR ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
SO, COMMISSIONER MOODY, CAN YOU NARROW YOUR QUESTION? WOULD YOU? YES. MR. CURRY, TO GO LINE BY LINE ON THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE THE SUBSTITUTIONS PART AND THAT ALL RESPONDENTS ARE BEING TREATED THE SAME WHEN IT COMES TO SUBSTITUTIONS? ONE. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE GAP IN THE LINE ITEMS THAT WERE NOT RESPONDED TO BY GATEWAY AND TO TO THE THE SIZE, SPACING, POTENTIAL CHANGE ORDER REQUIREMENTS BASED ON WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED BY GATEWAY THAT THE TOPICS THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT. SURE.
SO SO IN GENERAL, WE ALWAYS ALLOW SUBSTITUTIONS ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
IT GOES FROM STRUCTURAL STEEL TO ELECTRICAL WIRING TO ELECTRICAL BOXES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREAM.
SO THOSE ARE APPROVED AND REJECTED BY THE PROJECT TEAM.
WE DIDN'T THINK IT EQUATED TO A DIFFERENCE THAT THAT MADE THAT BIDDER NON-RESPONSIVE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE THICKNESS OF THE TOP OF A CONFERENCE TABLE IS AN EIGHTH OF AN INCH THINNER.
WE DON'T THINK THAT'S JUSTIFICATION TO DISQUALIFY A BIDDER.
AGAIN, WE TURNED IN OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE PURCHASING AGENT IN JANUARY.
AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK UNTIL TODAY UPON THOSE MISSING ITEMS. SAY THAT AGAIN WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE AGENDA ITEM AGENT.
WE TAKE THAT BID TABULATION AND REVIEW IT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IN COURT.
WE PROVIDE THAT TO THE PURCHASING AGENT AND THEY DRAFT THE AGENDA.
WHEN WAS THAT? IT WAS EARLY JANUARY OR LATE JANUARY TO MY JANUARY THIS YEAR.
THE ITEM WAS PUT ON COURT ORIGINALLY AND IT WAS PULLED.
IT WAS DEFERRED FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
AND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION EVER SINCE THEN.
SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING TO THE COURT.
SO WHAT DATE WAS THE AGENDA ITEM ON THE.
EARLIER. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS EARLY MARCH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
AND WAS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE LOW BID? IT WAS PULLED FROM THE FROM THE AGENDA.
AND WHEN DID YOU GET RESPONSE TO THE FACT THAT THE PURCHASING AGENT DETERMINED THIS ISSUE TO BE NON RESPONSIVE? WE NEVER RECEIVED FORMAL NOTIFICATION OF THAT.
COMMISSIONER MOODY, I YIELD BACK TO YOU FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO. AND AGAIN SORRY, I JUST WELL, SO LET ME LET ME JUST RESPOND TO THAT.
FIRST OF ALL I, I'M NOT SURE IF I SPEAK JUST FOR MYSELF.
COULD YOU, COULD YOU AND I DON'T KNOW IF MISS TORRES CAN ADDRESS THE, THE LINE ITEM GAPS.
AND IF WHEN DID YOU BECOME AWARE OF THOSE AND WHY WAS THAT NOT COMMUNICATED? EXCUSE ME. SO ON MAY, EARLY MAY, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM DAN CURRY REQUESTING TO ASSIST WITH THE EVALUATION AND QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
AND SO MY TEAM AND I DEVELOPED OR CREATED A LINE BY LINE EVALUATION.
SO WE WENT AND THROUGH ALL THE BID DOCUMENTS AND CREATED EACH ONE OF THE LINES.
THERE'S OTHER LINES, LIKE THERE'S BOOKSHELVES.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL LINES THAT THERE'S NO BID ON.
SO THAT AND SO THEN WHEN WE, WE HAD NOT FINALIZED THE EVALUATION.
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AND SO THAT'S WHY OUR RECOMMENDATION HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.PURCHASING DEPARTMENT DID NOT PLACE THIS AGENDA FOR TODAY'S COURT.
WE HAD NOT FINISHED COORDINATING MEETINGS TO TO DISCUSS OUR FINDINGS.
OKAY. MR. CURRY, CAN YOU GO BACK AND ADDRESS THE CHANGE ORDERS WITH THE REQUEST? THE SPACING AND POTENTIALLY HAVING TO MOVE WALLS OR MAKE MAJOR CHANGES, EXPENSIVE CHANGES DUE TO THE SPACING AND SIZING. YEAH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I DISAGREE THAT THAT'S NOT THE APPROACH WE'VE EVER TAKEN ON ANY PROJECT.
OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS BEEN ON SITE EVEN AFTER RECEIVING THOSE BIDS, AND VERIFIED THAT WITHOUT, WE BELIEVE, ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNIFICANT COST, WE CAN MAKE THAT FURNITURE SOLUTION WORK.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOW BIDDER IS IS A RESPONSE.
WE BELIEVE THE LOW BIDDER IS RESPONSIVE.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT WHETHER IF THERE'S PIECES MISSING AGAIN, IT'S THE FIRST WE'RE HEARING OF IT.
WE SAW IT APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF THE SUBSTITUTION LINES.
AND IN THAT SUBSTITUTION LINE THE SUBSTITUTION.
THE VENDOR PROVIDED A MAKE AND MODEL OF A SUBSTITUTION PATIO TABLE AND CHAIR.
NOW I HAVE WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO THE SCHEDULE OF VALUES.
IF THE PURCHASING AGENT REACHED OUT TO THOSE VENDORS AND GOT A SCHEDULE OF VALUES BY LINE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE RESPONSES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED, AND WE'RE IN A NON-CONTACT PERIOD AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REACH OUT TO THEM.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL THE VENDOR AND SAY, HEY, WOULD YOU HAVE FOR THE PATIO FURNITURE? THAT'S THAT'S NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE PURCHASING ACT.
AND THE PURCHASING MANUAL, IT SAYS, ALLOWS US TO HAVE NO CONTACT.
SO ALL OF OUR CONTACT AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE VENDOR GOES THROUGH THE PURCHASING AGENT.
SO WE'RE ONLY PRIVY TO INFORMATION WE ARE SHARED.
JUDGE. SO ARE THE LINE ITEM GAPS.
OR THE LINE ITEM GAPS DUE TO THESE SUBSTITUTIONS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? OR ARE THESE TRULY GAPS? THAT THAT YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF BEFORE TODAY? THESE ARE I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY GAPS IN THE BID.
OKAY. MISS TORRES, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THESE ARE NOT ABOUT SUBSTITUTIONS? THESE ARE ACTUAL GAPS.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'VE DRAFTED, I DID NOT CONTACT THE VENDOR.
THIS IS THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT CREATING A LINE BY LINE COMPARISON.
THE PATIO FURNITURE WAS MISSING FOR THE TAX.
THE TAX PATIO, WHICH WAS A THREE ROUND TABLES AND 12 CHAIRS.
AND IF THERE'S BOOKSHELVES THAT WERE MISSING, AND MR. CURRY STATING THAT FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE GOING TO BE SUBSTITUTED, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.
OKAY. I'LL PAUSE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS HAS ANY QUESTIONS HERE, BUT BUT I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN SORT THIS OUT. PRIOR TO TO COURT.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO DO THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER, THOUGH.
IF THIS WAS PUT OUT FIVE MONTHS AGO BY FACILITIES AND AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE CLARITY ON THAT, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO, TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY AND BE ABLE TO DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S TAKEN SO LONG IN REGARDS TO THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT PUTS ELECTED OFFICIALS IN A TOUGH SPOT WHEN WE'RE HEARING DIFFERENT STORIES FROM DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS.
LET ME HAVE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.
YEAH. SO, DAN THIS IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT'S PRINTED HERE? CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.
OKAY. SO FOR FOR CLARITY, IT'S FACILITIES MANAGEMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
CORRECT. SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED.
PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT MISSING FIXTURES AND PLUG OUTLETS.
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THAT SEEMS VERY SPECIFIC DETAIL.TELL ME WHAT'S BEEN DONE ON THIS BUILDING.
SO THE BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE'RE WE'RE ALMOST ENTIRELY CLOSED IN.
THERE ARE ROCK WALLS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING.
WE'RE ON TRACK TO FINISH BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR FOR THAT.
BUT WHEN DID THIS PROJECT START? OH, LAST OCTOBER, SUMMER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S BEEN. IT'S BEEN ABOUT A 15 MONTH PROJECT.
I KNOW A MOTION WAS MADE PREVIOUSLY.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S PRINTED HERE ON THE AGENDA.
SO IS THAT EVEN IF THAT MOTION FAILED, COMMISSIONER, IT DID FAIL.
BUT CAN YOU CAN ONE EVEN MAKE A MOTION WITH SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? I THOUGHT EVERYTHING HAD TO BEEN POSTED.
HE MADE A MOTION THAT WAS GERMANE TO THE ISSUE.
IT WAS JUST WITH A DIFFERENT VENDOR, BUT IT FAILED.
DOCTOR. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, IS THAT OKAY? I JUST WANT TO BRING IT BACK.
I THINK WE CAN. HOLD ON. HOLD ON.
COMMISSIONER, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'M NOT SURE.
MAYBE FOR DAN. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF OF COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
I KNOW HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME, AND I KNOW THERE'S ALREADY BEEN, YOU KNOW, A FEW CHANGE ORDERS THAT THIS COURT HAS SUPPORTED TO TRY AND GET WHERE THIS NEEDS TO BE. BUT I'M I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED, I GUESS, ABOUT I GUESS JUST THE THE PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE SOMETHING THAT'S POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BID AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A STAFFER, WHETHER IT'S YOU PATRICIA OR DAN THAT PUTS THEIR NAME ON THIS ITEM, I, I KIND OF EXPECT YOU TO STAND BY THAT.
AND SO I GUESS WHEN I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY SOME STATUTORY ISSUES HERE AS WELL, LARRY, IN TERMS OF A LOW BID, I KNOW WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GO WITH THE LOW BID BY BY LAW.
THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S BEEN EXCEPTIONS TO TO LOW BID.
THIS IS NOT ONE THAT'S POSTED AS AN EXCEPTION.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING SOME PROCESS HERE.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE CAN WE CAN KIND OF REJECT THIS COMPLETELY.
BUT WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE.
LOOK, I'M ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, GOT MY LAWYER HAT ON.
I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING HERE.
THAT'S THAT'S ALL. AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE OTHER LAWYER OUR LAWYER, TO GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK IN THIS SITUATION.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS ITEM WAS ACTUALLY.
I THINK THIS DAN BROUGHT THIS TO PURCHASING IN JANUARY.
IT WAS ACTUALLY POSTED ON AN AGENDA IN MARCH, WAS DEFERRED.
AND SO AND AT THIS POINT IT'S BEEN.
AT LEAST POSITED THAT THE VENDOR WAS DISQUALIFIED FOR SOME REASON.
THE COURT HAS THE OPTION TO EITHER AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER, REJECT ALL THE BIDS, OR IT CAN GO WITH A.
COMPANY THAT IS NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER, BUT THE STATUTE 262 DOES REQUIRE THAT IF THE COURT CHOOSES TO GO WITH ANOTHER BIDDER WHO IS NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER, THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL COMPANY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE NOTICE AND APPEAR BEFORE A COMMISSIONERS COURT.
RIGHT. IT'S THE COURT'S OPTION TO TO PURSUE THAT.
BUT IT'S THE STATUTE DOES HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IS.
AND THAT IS TWO 60 2027C1 AND TWO.
AND I THINK PURCHASING HAS ITS OWN POLICIES.
SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE OKAY.
BUT WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.
SO SO IF COMMISSIONER CALVERT REFERENCED SOME OF THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THAT WAS AN ISSUE.
SO. SO IF WE DIDN'T GO WITH THE LOW BID, THE COMPANY WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD IN A PUBLIC SETTING. YES.
AND THAT IS BY STATUTE AND BY PURCHASING ZONE POLICIES.
OKAY. WHERE THEY ARE PROVIDED NOTICE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
OKAY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. BUT GATEWAY IS NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER.
THEY'RE DISQUALIFIED. SO THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED.
SO YOU HAVE A BID THAT'S A BIDDER THAT SUBMITTED THEIR RESPONSE.
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IF THEY DID NOT SPECIFY OR BID ON ALL ITEMS AS SPECIFIED, THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIVE.YOU'RE JUST THEY'RE DISQUALIFIED.
SO THEY'RE NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.
BUT IF THEY WERE DISQUALIFIED THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PRINTED ON THE AGENDA.
CORRECT? CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.
WELL, THAT AGENDA I DID NOT ASK FOR PATRICIA.
THAT'S WHAT I'M. THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS YOUR NAME IS BY THIS AGENDA ITEM, AND I ASSUME THAT MEANS WHETHER IT'S YOU OR ANY OTHER STAFF MEMBER, YOU HAVE OKAYED THIS AGENDA ITEM.
AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S CONSUMPTION, IT'S YOUR NAME.
AND IT SAYS THE THIS COMPANY IS THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER.
BUT NOW YOU'RE WALKING THAT BACK, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
YES. SO INITIALLY WHEN FACILITIES SUBMITTED A RECOMMENDATION TO US, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT TEAM MET WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND THAT THEY HAD EVALUATED LINE BY LINE.
RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WAS DEFERRED.
ALL THOSE TIMES I WASN'T INCLUDED IN THAT CONVERSATION.
SO PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN EACH TIME THE ITEM WAS DEFERRED.
FIRST I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM DAN CURRY ASKING ME TO EVALUATE AND TO ASSIST WITH THIS MATTER.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE CREATED A LINE BY LINE COMPARISON FOR EVALUATION.
WE GENERATED THAT? YEAH, THEY WENT UP A LUMP SUM TOTAL.
COMMISSIONER RUDY, I THINK JUDGE I.
OKAY. HOLD ON. I'LL GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK I CAN BE HELPFUL.
I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
IT'S IT'S PROBLEMATIC THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD THE COLLABORATION.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST KIND OF LET IT COME BACK TO THE NEXT COURT DATE.
NOW, LET ME GIVE THE COURT A TIMELINE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I'LL ASK OUR FURNITURE CONSULTANT TO JUST COME UP.
GRACE ROSE, JUST TO CONFIRM, IT'S ABOUT A THREE MONTH LEAD TIME IN ORDER TO GET THE FURNITURE.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY HOW MUCH LEAD TIME IT IS.
AND ALSO WITH RESPECT TO THE WALL SITUATION.
CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS THAT, PLEASE? OKAY. SO WHEN HELLO, EVERYBODY.
I'M WITH GRACE PG DESIGN GROUP AND HEWITT ZOLLARS FOR THE DESIGN TEAM OF THE PRECINCT FOUR BUILDING.
AND SO IN JANUARY WE GOT THE BIDS BACK, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THE BIDS.
WHAT WE GOT WAS THE REQUEST FOR SUBSTITUTIONS.
WOULD WE ACCEPT THEM? SO WE WENT THROUGH AND EVALUATED THEM, AND WE FELT THAT SOME OF THE THINGS JUST DID NOT MEET THE STANDARD OF WHAT EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS HAD REQUESTED. ONE OF THEM WAS THE LOCKERS THAT IT WOULD CARRY LEGAL EQUIPMENT, AND IT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, WIDE ENOUGH AND EVERYTHING ELSE BUILT TO, TO DO THAT.
AND WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS NOT THERE WERE CHAIRS THAT WOULD WOULD TAKE ABOUT 350 POUNDS.
RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY BREAK THE CHAIRS A LOT.
AND SO THE CHAIRS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WERE 300 POUNDS AND THEY WERE LESS NOT AS WIDE, AND THEY NEEDED TO BE WIDER FOR FOR THE DEPUTIES. SO THERE WAS JUST A WHOLE LIST THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND WE SENT IT BACK SAYING, NO, WE DID NOT ACCEPT THESE.
THAT'S ALL WE DID IN JANUARY ON THE PANEL SYSTEMS. WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THEM AND REALIZE, AND I DO HAVE A SKETCH.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE COULD I GIVE YOU THE SKETCH TO GIVE? SO, YOU KNOW, WE REALIZE THAT THE THAT THE TECHNION.
WHERE WHY WE SELECTED TECHNION WAS REALLY BECAUSE THE THE TAX ASSESSOR HAD TOLD US THAT HE DID NOT WANT BUILT IN, BUILT IN MILLWORK LIKE THE JP WAS GETTING.
WERE THESE WORK, WORK PANELS, YOU KNOW, CUBICLES.
SO WE CAME WE CAME UP WITH THE LAYOUT, WHICH IS SORT OF GRAZED IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT THE YELLOW LINES SHOW WHERE RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING WALLS ARE AND THOSE WALLS COME DOWN WITH ELECTRICAL.
AND SO THERE'S 25IN ONE 25FT, ONE INCH IS CLEAR, 18FT, TEN INCHES, 25FT, ONE INCHES.
AND THE AND YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT OF THE OF THE PANELS.
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OVER. SO REALLY IT'S ABOUT 14IN OVER.SO SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF LIKE IF YOU WERE IF YOU WERE IN YOUR KITCHEN AND YOU BUILT WALLS AND THEN THE CABINETS CAME IN AND THEY DIDN'T FIT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU GOT TO TAKE OUT ONE OF THE CABINETS.
YOU GOT TO MODIFY IT, WHATEVER.
NOW WE HAVE TO MODIFY HIS HIS PANEL SYSTEMS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE HE'S GOT TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WHAT IS GOING TO CHANGE.
AND THEY'RE VERY TIGHT TO, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO I'M JUST GOING OVER THOSE, THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE VERY REAL.
I YOU KNOW THAT THE PATIO FURNITURE IS MISSING IN SOME OF THEM.
SOME OF THE CHAIRS ARE MISSING.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT LIST OF THINGS I WOULD SAY THAT THE BIGGEST ITEM IS REALLY THE PANEL SYSTEMS. AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR? BUT IF WE, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIVE BIDDERS AS A SMALL MINORITY WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS COMMITTEE ON THE COMMISSION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RESPECT THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK THE TIME TO BID.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE ITEMS WERE COMPLETELY BROKEN DOWN UNTIL MAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
WHERE WE'RE AT IS THAT, YES, IT TAKES ABOUT 12 TO 14 WEEKS FOR FURNITURE.
SUMMERTIME. MOST OF THESE MANUFACTURERS WILL GO DOWN FOR A WEEK OR SOMETHING TO RETOOL.
YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A SUMMER OFF IN THE MANUFACTURING.
SO I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, GO WITH A RESPONSIVE BIDDER.
RESPECT. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT DID RESPOND AND UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT I SPECIFIED EVERY ONE OF THE ITEMS, WHAT WE DID IS A DESIGN TEAM IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE OPEN LINES, WHICH MEANS THAT ANYONE CAN BID ON IT.
THERE WAS NOT A CLOSED LINE WHERE YOU COULD NOT BID ON IT.
SO IT WAS VERY OPEN TO ALL BIDDERS.
AND SO I WOULD. AND THE REASON IS SO THAT YOU COULD THE COUNTY COULD DO APPLES TO APPLES WHEN SOMEBODY STARTS TO SUBSTITUTE YOU CAN'T REALLY DO APPLES TO APPLES.
THE, THE CHAIR THAT CAN CARRY 350 POUNDS AS OPPOSED TO THE CHAIR THAT CARRIES 300 POUNDS.
AND THERE WAS A THERE WAS A DISTINCT REQUEST FOR A STRONGER CHAIR CHAIRS THAT ARE IN THE JURY BOX THAT ARE TO BE PUT IN ON A PEDESTAL AND THEN THEY ARE SWITCHED WITH ON CASTERS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FROM THE ONSET TO DO OPEN LINES SO EVERYONE COULD RESPOND.
AND THAT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A DESIGN TEAM.
AND THAT IS ALWAYS TO ME, A CRITERIA TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS GET THAT SEMBLANCE OF KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IS WHAT YOU EXPECTED TO GET.
THANK YOU. SO JUST RECLAIMING MY TIME, I THINK THAT THE MOST PRUDENT THING TO DO, I THINK, IN LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ'S LEAD, IS TO JUST BRING IT BACK WITH AFTER THE COLLABORATION.
I'M ASSUMING, PATTY, YOU'RE ABOUT DONE WITH THIS EVALUATION.
YOU NOW KNOW WHERE THE MISSING ITEMS ARE SO YOU CAN MEET WITH FACILITIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING.
YES. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE WHAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SAID, THE BEST THING FOR US TO DO IS JUST BRING THIS BACK WITH THE PROPER CAPTIONING IN THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE OF THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
IF IT ISN'T THE LOWEST BIDDER, IS THAT DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY.
OKAY. YES, SIR I DO. ARE YOU ASKING ME I KNOW, NO I'M ASKING PATTY.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE THE LOWEST BIDDER.
I JUST WANTED TO FINISH REAL QUICK.
THERE HAS BEEN AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS TO GET THIS RIGHT.
AND OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE THING FROM HERE TO GO AND JUST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS BETWEEN THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND FACILITIES.
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SO THAT PUTS US INTO SEPTEMBER.SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COURT STILL TO HAVE THIS IN A TIMELY FASHION.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST A PRESSURE COOKER.
WE JUST WANT TO DO IT RIGHT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE CHANGE ORDERS.
THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.
SO DAN, CAN YOU COME FORWARD AGAIN? SO YOU STAND BY. YOU EARN YOUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR GATEWAY PRINTING TO BE THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BID.
CORRECT. I STAND BY OUR RECOMMENDATION.
YES, MA'AM. YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
YOU DIDN'T RECOMMEND FOR THIS TO COME BACK, DID YOU? NO, I DID NOT.
YEAH. AND IF WE DO, WE MIGHT GET SUED AGAIN.
OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
I STAND BY THE STAFF, OUR STAFF AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO DAN'S TEAM.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR AWARDING A PURCHASE ORDER TO THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BID SUBMITTED BY GATEWAY PRINTING AND OFFICE SUPPLY INCORPORATED FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE OFFICE FURNITURE FOR THE PRECINCT FOR SATELLITE OFFICE.
DO I HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING? I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.
IS THERE A NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THING? NO. OKAY, SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR MAKE THAT MOTION.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
POINT OF ORDER BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUDGE LARRY.
IS IT, COMMISSIONER, THE POINT OF ORDER WOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE JUDGE.
OKAY, SURE. WELL I WILL DIRECT IT TO THE JUDGE.
AND JUDGE CAN DIRECT IT TO WHICHEVER STAFF.
WE'RE ON THE RECORD. THE PURCHASING AGENCY SAID IT'S UNRESPONSIVE.
SO THE OTHER 2 OR 3 WHO WHO ALSO PUT IN COULD SUE.
AND THEY HAVE A PROCESS THAT THAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO FOLLOW.
I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH RIGHT NOW.
COUNCIL. CAN YOU ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHAT IS WHAT? THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR? AND THE SECOND, IN THE LIGHT OF THE POINT OF ORDER, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTE AT THIS TIME? JUDGE. SO COMMISSIONER CALVERT POINT OF ORDER IS A PROCEDURAL ISSUE.
AND ACCORDING TO DAN'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE MOTION WE ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TWO 60 TWO.
SO WE ARE COMPLYING WITH CHAPTER 262.
POINT OF ORDER IS POINT OF ORDER IS OVERRULED.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER MOODY.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS.
IF THERE'S NOT A TIME SENSITIVITY HERE, AND BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION BETWEEN STAFF AND NOT GETTING A CLEAR ANSWER HERE TODAY, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF THOSE FOLKS GOT IN ALIGNMENT BEFORE GOING FORWARD.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE.
WE NOT NEED TO VOTE ON MINE FIRST.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? I THINK I HAVE NOT ON THE TABLE.
NO, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE TABLE FIRST.
OKAY, SO I'LL ASK FOR A VOICE VOTE.
WE'RE VOTING ON A MOTION TO TABLE.
NO, I VOTE AGAINST THAT COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
ON A MOTION TO TABLE A COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
LET US NOW MOVE BACK TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE.
I'LL ASK FOR ANOTHER VOICE VOTE, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.
NOW WE'RE VOTING ON THE MOTION I MADE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
[55. Authorization to negotiate an American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) agreement between Bexar County and the National Alliance on Mental Illness Greater San Antonio (NAMI-SA) Bridges to Care Youth Program in an amount not to exceed $1,587,979. The purpose of the agreement is to fund preventative mental health education for youth and adults using trauma-informed (TIC) principles and other prevention strategies by working with faith community leaders, youth organizational leaders, parents, and families.]
[56. Authorization to negotiate an American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) agreement between Bexar County and the National Alliance on Mental Illness Greater San Antonio (NAMI-SA), in an amount not to exceed $2,045,000. The purpose of the agreement is to establish a Warmline (non-emergency phone resource), Navigation for services, and Stigma Reduction campaign for individuals seeking information or referral for mental health concerns.]
NAMI SA BRIDGES TO CARE YOUTH PROGRAM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,587,979.[02:55:07]
FAITH COMMUNITY LEADERS, YOUTH, ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERS, PARENTS, AND FAMILIES.DOCTOR. DOCTOR GUERRERO, GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
JUDGE I AM DOCTOR ANDREA GUERRERO, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH.
I'M INTRODUCING THIS AGENDA ITEM.
IT IS TO REQUEST THE AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE TWO CONTRACTS.
AND I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE RELATED TO NAMI.
BUT WE ARE PRESENTING ONE PRESENTATION.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.
YOU'RE WELCOME. SO THIS IS FOR THE CREATION EXPANSION OF A PRE CRISIS SYSTEM OF CARE.
THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS JUNE 7TH OF 2022.
BEFORE I CAME INTO THIS POSITION, PUBLIC HEALTH.
BUT ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT I INHERITED WAS THE APPROVAL OF THESE FUNDS FOR THE CREATION OF A PRE CRISIS SYSTEM AND COLLABORATIVE CONVENER FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO INCLUDE A WARM LINE AND NAVIGATION NAVIGATION SERVICES AND A STIGMA REDUCTION CAMPAIGN.
AND SO HOW HOW WE ARRIVED HERE IS SO AS WE WERE CREATING OR AS I CAME ON AND WAS ASKED TO CREATE STRATEGY WE PRIORITIZED THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS RELATING TO PUBLIC HEALTH.
SO THAT'S THE 31 MILLION THAT I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
YOU ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS OR MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LAST SEVERAL COURT SESSIONS? THE $3.8 MILLION IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THAT, AND FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE IS RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH.
AS WE RECEIVED RESPONSES TO THE RFP FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND ONE OF THE SPECIFIC BEHAVIORAL OR SPECIFIC PRIORITY AREAS WAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THAT INCLUDED ITEMS LIKE THIS, LIKE A PRE-CRISIS SYSTEM THESE TWO PROPOSALS THAT WERE RESPONSIVE TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH RFP FIT THE CRITERIA FOR THESE ARPA DOLLARS THAT WERE APPROVED BY COURT.
SO WE ARE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION OR ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO NEGOTIATE TWO CONTRACTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS, BUT THEY WERE RECEIVED FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH RFP. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
AND WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH THE ARPA OFFICE THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? NO, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH MANAGER, LETICIA DOMINGUEZ, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM NAMI HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM AS WELL.
HI. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
SHE IS WITH NAMI. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT IS CREATING A PRE CRISIS SYSTEM OF CARE CURRENTLY IN OUR COMMUNITY? MANY OF OUR LOVED ONES OFTEN HAVE TO REACH A CRISIS BEFORE THEY SEEK OUT HELP.
MANY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FOR HELP.
THEY'RE OFTEN AFRAID TO ADMIT THAT THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS, MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY ACCESSING THE TREATMENT TO SERVICES, DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BARRIERS IN ACHIEVING MENTAL WELLNESS, AND HAVE SHAME AND EMBARRASSMENT DUE TO MENTAL HEALTH STIGMA.
CURRENTLY IN BEXAR COUNTY, WE DO HAVE A VERY ROBUST CRISIS SYSTEM OF CARE.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD HERE IS CREATE A PRE CRISIS SYSTEM OF CARE.
AND CURRENTLY NAMI DOES HAVE TWO PROGRAMS THAT ADDRESS THAT.
SO WE WILL PROVIDE THEY WILL PROVIDE A PRE CRISIS SYSTEM THAT FOCUSES ON UPSTREAM SERVICES.
THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF IT NOW.
AND SO WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND SOME OF THOSE SERVICES.
AND THOSE TWO SERVICES ARE OUR WARM LINE AND ALSO THE BRIDGES TO CARE PROGRAM.
THE NAMI WARM LINE DOES PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND.
OKAY. THE WARM LINE PROVIDES A NON-EMERGENCY.
JUST FOR PURPOSES OF CLARITY, WE'RE WE'RE WE GOT TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
WE'RE TAKING UP THE BRIDGES TO CARE YOUTH PROGRAM.
SO ARE ARE Y'ALL WANTING TO DO ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH.
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE UP THE CORRECT ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS.
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CRISIS. CURRENTLY, NAMI DOES OPERATE A WARM LINE, SO WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE THAT IN SERVICE.TO 8 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
SO WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WE'RE HOPING TO EXPAND THAT AND THE WARM LINE WILL ALSO ASSIST IN NAVIGATING SERVICES AND WILL ESTABLISH A STIGMA REDUCTION CAMPAIGN FOR INDIVIDUALS SEEKING INFORMATION OR REFERRAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS.
THE SERVICE AVAILABILITY FOR THIS PROPOSED LINE IS 9 A.M.
TO 11 P.M., SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
THE TARGET POPULATION IS WHERE THE INFORMATION WILL BE DISSEMINATED TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH CLASSES, GROUPS, WEBSITE, HEALTH FAIRS, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO I HAVE THAT FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR READING.
BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THEIR PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, BASED ON THOSE OUTCOMES AND GOALS FOR CALLS ANSWERED IN THIS NEXT COMING YEAR, THEIR TARGET IS 2400.
IF THIS IS PROPOSED IN THAT FISCAL YEAR, CALLS MADE IS 1200, RESOURCES PROVIDED TO CALLERS IS 800 AND NAMI CLASSES OFFERED ARE 30.
SO NOW GOING ON TO BRIDGES TO CARE.
BRIDGES WORKS THROUGH FAITH COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE THE MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION AND HELPS DIRECT PEOPLE TO THESE RESOURCES. CURRENTLY, NAMI DOES HAVE A BRIDGES TO CARE PROGRAM, BUT THAT ONE PRIMARILY FOCUSES ON ADULTS.
THIS NEW PROGRAM WILL FOCUS AND BUILD ON THAT FOUNDATION TO REALLY TARGET YOUTH.
SO THIS PROGRAM, AS MENTIONED, ORGANIZES FAITH COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS IN GEOGRAPHIC COHORTS TO INCREASE THE PROGRAM'S LONGEVITY. THE BRIDGES TO CARE PROGRAM, WHICH AGAIN IS A COMPONENT OF THE BRIDGES TO CARE, STRIVES TO POSITIVELY IMPACT YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH BY PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION TO YOUTH AND ALSO THE ADULTS WHO CARE AND WORK FOR THE YOUTH, SO THEIR SERVICE AVAILABILITY FOR THIS PROGRAM, OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE ADULTS ARE HAVING ALREADY, IS 8 A.M.
TO 7 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, WITH HOURS DEPENDING ON SCHEDULING, WITH SCHOOLS AND DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND ALSO OCCASIONAL WEEKEND PROGRAMING. THE TARGET POPULATION IS THE HIGHEST WITHIN THE POPULATION OF OUR HIGHEST DISPARITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MOST NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY COVID.
SO I DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE ZIP CODES LISTED THERE.
AND ELIGIBILITY IS, AGAIN ANYONE WHO WORKS OR RESIDES IN BEXAR COUNTY.
THIS BRIDGES TO CARE YOUTH PROGRAM ALSO HAS MANY GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND INDICATORS THAT YOU CAN SEE.
SO THEY HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED THAT UP FRONT.
AND AS I MENTIONED BRIDGES TO CARE YOUTH PROGRAM FOR SOME OF THEIR PERFORMANCE INDICATORS BECAUSE THEY DEAL WITH YOUTH AND ALSO FOR ADULTS WHO CARE AND WORK WITH YOUTH, THEY DO HAVE TWO SEPARATE PERFORMANCE INDICATORS NUMBER OF YOUTH ENGAGED.
NUMBER OF YOUTH CERTIFIED 750.
NUMBER OF SCHOOLS ENGAGED 135.
YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS ENGAGED 70.
NUMBER OF CONGREGATIONS ENGAGED IS 115.
NUMBER OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS ENGAGED IS 46.
ZIP CODE OF YOUTH PARTICIPANTS.
WE HOPE TO TARGET 168 AND NUMBER OF SESSIONS OFFERED IS 326.
1080. NUMBER OF ADULTS CERTIFIED 210.
THE ZIP CODE OF ADULT PARTICIPANTS 168.
PATHWAYS TO HOPE IS 200 AND NUMBER OF YOUTH TO ATTEND.
A WELLNESS RALLY IS 200 AND NUMBER OF YOUTH TO ATTEND.
THE THE BRIDGES TO CARE YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER SPECIFIC EVENTS IS A THOUSAND AND ALSO THE ZIP CODE OF PARTICIPANTS FOR THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS WOULD BE 150.
HERE WE ARE FOR THE RECOMMENDED MOTIONS.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE I GET TO OUR MOTIONS.
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COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.I WAS GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION.
SO I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL TO FOR BOTH THE WARM LINE.
CAN WE DO IT AT THE SAME TIME? LARRY'S NOT HERE. MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR THE WARM LINE.
DO WE DO IT SEPARATELY? WARM BOTH THE WARM LINE.
MAKE IT THE MOTION TO SEE IF WE GOT A SECOND.
ELIZABETH SAID IT'LL BE EASIER, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL FIRST FOR THE WARM LINE, CORRECT? YES, SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. SECOND BY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MORE IN LINE? THE COURT, FOR THE RECORD, IS CALLING BOTH 55 AND 56 FOR CONSIDERATION AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE A ARPA AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY, NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON MENTAL ILLNESS, GREATER SAN ANTONIO NAMI, SA, AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,045,000.
BOTH MOTIONS ARE NOW ON THE FLOOR.
COMMISSIONER CALVERT THANK YOU JUDGE.
I NOTICED THAT 78239 IS MISSING WHICH HAS OUR HIGHEST TRUANCY IN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
IT'S THE CLUSTER OF SCHOOLS THAT GOES FROM MONTGOMERY ELEMENTARY TO ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL.
HIGH. HIGH AS SOME OF THE HIGHEST POVERTY.
CAN YOU ADD THAT TO THIS PARTICULAR LIST? YES. WE CAN.
OKAY. I'D APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S A HIGHLY UNDERSERVED AREA WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AND IT COSTS THE COUNTY BECAUSE SO MANY OF THESE ARE IN THE CITY, BUT IT COSTS THE COUNTY AN AWFUL LOT OF RESOURCES TO RESPOND TO THE FREQUENT NEEDS OF THESE FAMILIES.
SO I WANT TO ADD THAT AREA TO TO YOUR LIST FOR YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.
ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, ANY FURTHER COMMENT? COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
OH, COMMISSIONER, MY ONLY COMMENT IS, IS THIS A NEW STAFF PERSON THAT I HAVEN'T MET? DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE HER? OUR INDIVIDUAL FROM NAMI.
OH. FROM NAMI. OH, I THOUGHT SHE WAS FROM THE COUNTY.
I WAS LIKE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FROM NAMI.
I'VE BEEN A NAMI FAN FOR YEARS.
I'M. I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PARTNERING WITH THEM.
I'M ACTUALLY THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR BRIDGES TO CARE NOW.
I'M THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR NAMI.
CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER MOODY.
THANK YOU. JUDGE, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
WITH REGARD TO THE WARM LINE, COULD COULD YOU HELP BREAK OUT FOR US? KIND OF THE THE WARM LINE VERSUS THE CRISIS LINE? I KNOW WE WERE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE THE DIFFERENCES AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WASN'T AN EXISTING WARM LINE.
I KNOW KCS DOES HAVE A A CALL LINE AS WELL AS A A TEXT LINE AVAILABLE AND SAW THAT.
COULD SOMEONE JUST SPEAK TO TO THAT AND HOW YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A REDUNDANCY.
IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW, SERVING A DIFFERENT PURPOSE.
SO AS I WAS SPEAKING TO, WE WANT TO REACH PEOPLE BEFORE THEY HAVE A CRISIS.
WE NEVER WANT TO GET THEM AT A CRISIS.
WHEN YOU'RE AT A CRISIS, YOU'VE ALREADY GONE.
AND SO WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS JUST FOCUS ON GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION TO OUR YOUTH WHEN THEY'RE IN THE SCHOOLS, WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR CONGREGATIONS, WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, THEY WILL GET THIS INFORMATION AND KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESOURCES NOT JUST FOR THEM, BUT FOR THEIR FAMILIES TO REACH OUT TO INDIVIDUALS.
THE WARM LINE DOES THE SAME THING PEOPLE CAN CALL.
I'VE NOTICED THAT MY NEIGHBOR IS ACTING STRANGELY.
WHERE CAN I GO? THEY CAN GIVE THEM THOSE RESOURCES.
I'VE NOTICED MY SON, HE'S BEEN SLEEPING A LOT, DOESN'T WANT TO COME OUT OF HIS ROOM.
HAVE THEY IMPLEMENTED A WARM LINE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES? SIMILAR TO SAN ANTONIO.
HELLO. YES, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE LOCATED IN OTHER STATES AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY VERY SUCCESSFUL.
THEY'RE EVEN MUCH LARGER THAN OURS.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THE WARM LINE ITSELF HAS BEEN VERY TRANSFORMATIVE BECAUSE IT IS A SAFE SPACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN CALL AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCE.
WE TEND TO HAVE CERTIFIED PEER YOU KNOW, SPECIALISTS WHO CAN THEN RELATE TO THE PERSON CALLING.
AND SO THERE'S A LEVEL OF EMPATHY THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY THERE WHEN YOU CALL ANY OTHER LINE, MAYBE IT'S SOMEBODY AT A CLINICAL LEVEL VERSUS SOMEBODY WHO SAYS, I CAN JUST RELATE TO YOU. I'VE SEEN TRANSFORMATIVE WORK.
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I'VE EVEN ANSWERED A CALL, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE AN ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY MEMBER CALLED FROM GERMANY TO ENTRUST US TO FIND A RESOURCE FOR A LOVED ONE WHO HAD JUST BEEN HOSPITALIZED AND WAS GOING TO NEED RESOURCES AFTERWARDS.OKAY. NO, THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION.
AND ON THE THE BRIDGE TO CARE PROGRAM FOR THE YOUTH.
HOW IS THAT INTEGRATING WITH OUR, OUR SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WE'VE MADE WITH ARPA FUNDS? WHAT ARE THE CONNECTION POINTS THERE? ARE WE TALKING TO THOSE SCHOOLS AND AND THE REFERRALS AND STUFF THAT THEY HAVE AND ALSO OBVIOUSLY GETTING INTO THOSE SCHOOLS.
SURE. SO WE ARE DEVELOPING INROADS THROUGH A VARIETY OF AVENUES.
THE REALITY IS THAT YOUTH ARE BURNT OUT FROM BEING ONLINE.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THEM TO SCHOOLS IN A WAY THAT IS RELEVANT FOR.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE'LL GET ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO DO IT AT THE SAME TIME TO ENCOURAGE A CELEBRATION OF GETTING OUR YOUTH CERTIFIED AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEN ALSO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PARENTS, THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE MENTORS SO THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY.
THEIR SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING IS DELAYED.
AND SO WE ARE CREATING A PIPELINE OF BUILDING MORE RESILIENT YOUTH FROM AS EARLY AS LIKE 6 TO 8 YEARS OLD, ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND CONTINUING THE STANDARD THAT IT'S OKAY TO LEARN AND TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH IN A SAFE AND PRODUCTIVE WAY.
THANK YOU. SO DO YOU HAVE CONTACTS TODAY WITH THE ISDS OR DO YOU NEED ASSISTANCE WITH THAT? YES, WE CURRENTLY ARE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH CISD, WE SUPERINTENDENTS, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN MOU ALREADY ESTABLISHED WITH NAMI, AND THEY'VE ADDED THE BRIDGES TO CARE.
SO THEY ARE VERY ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HAVING US SET UP THE PROGRAM.
THROUGH SOME COLLABORATIONS IN NORTH SIDE.
WE ALSO ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COLLABORATING ON THOSE.
BUT AGAIN, WE WERE WAITING OFFICIALLY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THAT.
AND IT'S A VERY INNOVATIVE PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S TOPICS THAT ARE REALLY TOUGH, TYPICALLY FOR YOUTH TO TALK ABOUT WITH ADULTS AND FOR ADULTS TO UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY AND THE EXPERIENCES THAT YOUTH ARE FACING CURRENTLY.
AND SO WE'RE FINDING A WAY TO BRIDGE THOSE TWO.
UNDERSTOOD. WELL, DOCTOR, IF WE COULD JUST ENSURE THAT THESE NOT NOT JUST TWO ISDS, BUT EVERY ISD THAT WERE, WERE INJECTING, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THAT.
THEY ARE ALSO TYING IN WITH THIS PROGRAM AND THAT ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS WITHIN MENTAL HEALTH SPACE FOR YOUTH ARE COORDINATING AND INTEGRATING AND TRYING TO TO ASSIST ONE ANOTHER.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THE THE GREATEST RETURN FOR OUR SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THIS SPACE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ABSOLUTELY.
AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST THIS IS THE AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO EXECUTING A CONTRACT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONNECTIONS ARE MADE.
AND WHAT WHAT'S THE FUNDING PERIOD FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING REQUESTED THROUGH THE.
SO SEPTEMBER 2026 IS THE DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN GIVEN FROM OUR OFFICE.
OKAY. AND I GUESS QUESTION FOR NAMI IS WHAT WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR 2026 AND BEYOND? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THIS ROBUST INITIATIVE TO REALLY START GETTING STUDENTS CAUGHT UP IN TERMS OF EXPOSURE TO THESE CLASSES, BUT THAT WE WOULD BE FULLY INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SCHOOLS WHERE THERE WOULD BE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVES.
AND IT WOULD KIND OF BE A FINE TUNED MACHINE AT THAT POINT WHERE IT WOULD BE VERY CONSISTENT.
PEOPLE WOULD KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE SHOWING UP.
WE ALSO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT WE'LL BE DOING COMMUNITY INITIATIVES WHERE IT'S NOT JUST IN THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES, BUT WE'RE MAKING IT AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO MAYBE DIDN'T GET ACCESS TO THE CLASSROOM ARE ALSO ABLE TO ATTEND, AND ALSO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY AND CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE INVESTING IN
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THEIR WELL-BEING. OKAY.YEAH. I JUST WANT TO, LIKE, PUT THAT OUT THERE TODAY.
RIGHT. BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED THE PROGRAM, YOU'RE GOING TO START THE PROGRAM BASED ON ARPA DOLLARS AND THOSE ARPA DOLLARS END THINK IT WOULD IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE TO ALREADY START THINKING ABOUT LIKE HOW HOW DOES THIS PROGRAM CONTINUE IN THE ABSENCE OF ARPA? IF THERE'S A NEED HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED HOW CAN THAT BE SELF-SUSTAINING GOING FORWARD? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE LEGACY COSTS WE'RE CREATING FOR OUR ORGANIZATION? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THERE'S A TIME CONSTRAINT ON THOSE DOLLARS AND A LIMIT.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BOTH OF THESE PASSED.
LARRY, FOR PURPOSES PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, WE I CALLED UP ITEM 55, AGENDA ITEM 5556, BOTH DEALING WITH THE SAME PARTIES BUT DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, ONE BEING THE WARM LINE AND THE OTHER ONE BEING THE BRIDGES TO CARE YOUTH PROGRAM.
AND WE JUST NOW HAD A MOTION THAT JOINED BOTH AGENDA ITEMS. DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO FORM? AS LONG AS IT'S CLEAR THAT THE COURT VOTED ON BOTH ITEMS. NO. ALL RIGHT.
GREAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS ON THE MERGER AND CONSIDERATION OF BOTH AGENDA ITEMS? HEARING NONE. BOTH MOTIONS HAVE BEEN PASSED.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROMOTE THIS WORN LINE SO PEOPLE CAN CALL WE CURRENTLY USE A VARIETY OF TOOLS.
SO WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE OUTREACH TEAM.
SO WE CAN WE HAVE SEND US THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN SEND IT OUT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
YEAH. YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS NOW 1224.
THE COURT WILL RECESS. THE COURT WILL NOW CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.ITEMS MAY BE DISCUSSED AND ACT UPON, IF APPROPRIATE, IN OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5.51071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FOR CONSULTATION WITH THE COURT'S ATTORNEY FOR ADVICE REGARDING A PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR SIMILAR SETTLEMENT OFFER IN THE MATTER OF THE MARRIAGE OF RUUD VERSUS RODRIGUEZ AND DIGITAL DESK VERSUS BEXAR COUNTY.
THE COURT IS NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
JUNE 4TH. OKAY, THERE'S COMMISSIONER MOONEY.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES? COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF LINDA MORENO SANTOS AND ALSO LUIS AYALA, WHO'S THE FATHER OF BETTY CANO.
MY STAFF. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, THANK YOU.
JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THE HONOR OF GILBERT VASQUEZ.
THE MAYOR'S MOTHER WHO PASSED AWAY.
I KNOW, JUDGE YOU. YOU PROBABLY JOINED IN THAT CHARLOTTE CASTILLO NIRENBERG PASSED AWAY LAST WEEK.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, JOVITA ENRIQUEZ.
TELLEZ I WANT TO JUST SAY A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS ABOUT JOE.
SHE PASSED AWAY AT 100, AND SHE'S PRETTY AMAZING.
THAT'S THE ALL WOMEN RESERVE UNIT.
SHE WAS ONE OF THE FEW WOMEN WHO VOLUNTEERED FOR THE ARMED FORCES DURING THAT PERIOD.
SO MAY SHE REST IN PEACE AND THANK HER AND HER FAMILY FOR THEIR SERVICE.
REST IN PEACE, COMMISSIONER MOODY.
THIS PAST WEEK, WE LOST AN AMERICAN HERO IN ARMY STAFF SERGEANT BENNETT STAMPS.
BENNETT STAMPS WAS 100 YEARS OLD THIS PAST MAY 10TH.
ACTUALLY GOT TO ATTEND HIS BIRTHDAY.
HE WAS DRAFTED INTO THE ARMY AT THE AGE OF 19 AND SENT TO BELGIUM.
FOUGHT IN THE INFAMOUS BATTLE OF THE BULGE IN WORLD WAR TWO.
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WHERE THERE'S 75,000 AMERICAN CASUALTIES.JUST JUST A TREMENDOUS AMERICAN AND AND A JOY TO BE AROUND.
IT WAS IT WAS A BLESSING TO MEET HIM IN PERSON AT HIS BIRTHDAY PARTY A FEW WEEKS AGO.
WE JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM ONE MORE TIME AND THANK HIM FOR OUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY.
AND JUST JUST WANTED TO HONOR HIM HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CALVERT.
THANK YOU. JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN HONOR OF ERNEST ARZOLA, SHIRLEY RUDERIC AND DORIS WALTER.
SYMPATHIES ON BEHALF OF HIS MOM, CHARLOTTE ADELINA BLANCH NIRENBERG, THERE'S A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.