5.a. 9:30 a.m. - Public Hearing: The Commissioners Court invites public input regarding the following: i. Discussion of subdivision Replat# CP202106 within the Extra Territorial Jurisdiction of the City of Schertz: Fisher Estates Replat, owner: David R. Fisher, Nearest Intersection: Schaefer Road and Lost Meadows Drive: Southeast, not within the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. Precinct Number 4. ii. Approval of subdivision Replat# CP202106 within the Extra Territorial Jurisdiction of the City of Schertz: Fisher Estates, owner: David R. Fisher, Nearest Intersection: Schaefer Road and Lost Meadows Drive: Southeast, not within the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. Precinct Number 4.

[5.a. 9:30 a.m. - Public Hearing: The Commissioners Court invites public input regarding the following: i. Discussion of subdivision Replat# CP202106 within the Extra Territorial Jurisdiction of the City of Schertz: Fisher Estates Replat, owner: David R. Fisher, Nearest Intersection: Schaefer Road and Lost Meadows Drive: Southeast, not within the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. Precinct Number 4. ii. Approval of subdivision Replat# CP202106 within the Extra Territorial Jurisdiction of the City of Schertz: Fisher Estates, owner: David R. Fisher, Nearest Intersection: Schaefer Road and Lost Meadows Drive: Southeast, not within the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. Precinct Number 4. ]

AND I WILL CALL UP AGENDA ITEM FIVE A.

THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE COMMISSIONERS COURT INVITES PUBLIC INPUT REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ONE.

DISCUSSION OF SUBDIVISION PLAT CP 202106.

WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF SCHERTZ FISHER ESTATES REPLAT OWNER DAVID R FISHER.

NEAREST INTERSECTION SCHAEFER ROAD AND LOST MEADOWS DRIVE SOUTHEAST, NOT WITHIN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE, PRECINCT FOUR.

AND CAN I GO AHEAD AND DO THE SECOND, OR DO WE HAVE TO DO SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS? DO IT TOGETHER. SO I'LL CALL UP THE APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION REPLAT CP 202106.

WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF SCHERTZ, FISHER ESTATES OWNER DAVID R FISHER.

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NEAREST INTERSECTION SCHAEFER AND LOST MEADOWS DRIVE SOUTHEAST, NOT WITHIN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE.

PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.

MR. ART REINHART.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

ART REINHART, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REPLAT.

BY STATE LAW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF RE PLATS.

THIS IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF BEXAR COUNTY.

WE'VE PUBLISHED WITHIN THE NEWSPAPER, AS WELL AS ONLINE AND MAILED NOTICES OUT WITHIN 200FT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

THE SUSPENSE.

YEAH. IF WE CAN JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

I THINK WE CAN PROCEED WITHOUT THE VISUAL.

IT'S A LOCATION MAP, BUT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF ACRE LOT IN THE FAR NORTH EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY, NEAR SCHAEFER ROAD IN PRECINCT FOUR, AND THE REPLAT IS SIMPLY DIVIDING THE TWO AND A HALF ACRE LOT INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS.

ONE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.3 ACRES AND THE OTHER IS 1.1 ACRES.

IT'S GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR OUR REVIEW PROCESSES AND STAFF AND MYSELF RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

BUT LIKE I MENTIONED, BY STATE LAW, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF ANY PLOTS.

I'LL PAUSE THERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO TO THE RECOMMENDED MOTION ART.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR. OKAY.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEMS A FIVE, A ONE AND TWO.

SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

LET ME JUST PUT ON RECORD.

IS THERE ANYBODY.

I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE, A SUBSECTIONS ONE AND TWO, WHICH DEAL WITH THE APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF SCHERTZ.

ANYBODY HERE WISH TO SPEAK OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE? ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS.

MOTION CARRIES.

CARRY ON, MR. RENNER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL NOW GO TO.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO WITH ITEM AGENDA SIX.

[6. Request of Commissioners Court to identify items from the Consent Agenda for additional discussion and to approve remaining Consent Agenda items.]

REQUEST OF COMMISSIONERS COURT TO IDENTIFY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND TO APPROVE REMAINING CONSENT ITEMS. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, I'LL START WITH YOU.

OR COMMISSIONER CALVERT. I'M SORRY, CAN WE DEFER? STAFF NEEDS TO DEFER. ITEM 1010.

ALL RIGHT. TEN.

ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. NO.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, YOU PULL ITEM 46, PLEASE.

JUDGE 46.

ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, IS THERE ANY MATTERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? A CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO PULL.

NO JUDGE. I'M GOOD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

[CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

ITEMS NOT PULLED.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED.

ANY ABSTENTIONS.

MOTION CARRIES.

LET US NOW GO BACK AND TAKE UP THOSE MATTERS THAT WE PULLED.

WE'LL FIRST TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM TEN APPROVAL OF TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTORS REPORT OF TAXES COLLECTED IN MAY 2024

[10. Approval of Tax Assessor-Collector's Report of Taxes collected in May 2024 and approval of the order transferring tax collections for the month of May 2024 from unallocated receipts.]

AND APPROVAL OF THE ORDER TRANSFERRING TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF MAY 2024 FROM UNALLOCATED RECEIPTS.

YES. JUDGE THOMAS GUEVARA, HERE WITH COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE STAFF, IS REQUESTING TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT COURT AGENDA AS WE CLEAN UP SOME OF THE

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AUDITORS TAX REPORTS IN THE BACKUP.

WE HAD SOME DISCREPANCIES FROM THE TAX OFFICE, SO THEY ASKED FOR US TO PULL IT.

WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE TO TABLE THE ITEM TEN.

SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM TEN BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM. ARE WE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE DATE SPECIFIC ON JUNE 18TH? JUNE 18TH.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 46 WAS PULLED.

[46. Approval and execution of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) grant agreement between Bexar County and Haven for Hope of Bexar County to provide Coronavirus State and Local Fiscal Recovery Funds (SLFRF) in the amount of $110,000 for street outreach efforts within Bexar County to include any appropriate budgetary transfer necessary.]

IT'S THE APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

ARPA GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY.

HAVEN FOR HOPE OF BEXAR COUNTY TO PROVIDE CORONAVIRUS.

STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $110,000 FOR STREET OUTREACH EFFORTS WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY TO INCLUDE ANY APPROPRIATE BUDGETARY TRANSFER.

NECESSARY. NECESSARY.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SHE HAD PULLED THIS MATTER.

YEAH. THANK YOU. JUDGE.

ROBERT, I GUESS YOU'RE HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO GET JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THIS.

I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUDGE, YOU HELPED CHAMPION AS WELL.

AND I THINK THE GOAL WAS INITIALLY TO START OUT IN LEON VALLEY WITH THOSE TWO OUTREACH CASE WORKERS.

IS THAT ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED, ROBERT? OR CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON HOW THAT'S GOING? BECAUSE I THINK THE IDEA, THE CONCEPT WAS START THERE AND THEN MAYBE GO OVER TO BALCONES HEIGHTS AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER SUBURBAN CITIES AS WELL.

YES. SO OUR GOAL IS TO START OFF IN LEON VALLEY AND BALCONES HEIGHTS.

AND THEN AFTER THREE, SIX MONTH PERIOD, WE'LL EXTEND OUT TO THE OTHER AREAS OF BEXAR COUNTY.

OKAY. SO I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE APPROVED A FEW MONTHS BACK.

ARE THEY ALREADY IN PLACE, OR IS THIS KIND OF THE FINAL ACTION TO GET THEM IN PLACE? THIS IS THE FINAL ACTION TO GET THEM IN PLACE FROM HERE.

KIM JEFFRIES AND HER TEAM AT HAVEN FOR HOPE WILL HIRE STREET OUTREACH WORKERS, AND THEY'LL BE DEPLOYED IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

OKAY, GREAT.

THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON BECAUSE I COULDN'T I COULDN'T TELL IN SPEAKING WITH THE MAYOR THERE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE RESOURCES HAD BEEN DEPLOYED.

BUT IF YOU'LL JUST COMMIT TO TO GETTING BACK TO US AND MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN SOMEONE FROM LEON VALLEY ON HOW THAT OUTREACH IS GOING.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME RECENT MEDIA COVERAGE ABOUT THE INCREASE, AND I THINK IT WAS ABOUT A 7% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THESE RESOURCES WILL HELP ADDRESS AND GET PEOPLE THE HELP THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME STABILITY IN THEIR LIVES.

SO IF YOU CAN JUST KEEP US POSTED AS IT GETS DEPLOYED, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.

WE'LL DO GREAT. ALL RIGHT.

MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

OH, SECOND. SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. CALVERT.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU. JUDGE, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR ROBERT.

IN THE SURVEY THAT WE DO OF THE OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION EVERY YEAR WHERE IS THE HEAVIEST AMOUNT OF FOLKS, DO WE KNOW THAT DATA? SURE WE HAVE.

ACTUALLY, KIM JEFFREY'S HERE, AND SHE'D BE IN THE BEST POSITION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

THE LARGEST POPULATION IN THE THE MOST RECENT POINT IN TIME COUNT WAS IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS FIVE, ONE, FIVE AND ONE KIND OF THAT AREA OF DOWNTOWN, MOSTLY IN THE WEST SIDE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE LARGEST POPULATION OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNSHELTERED ON THE STREETS.

HOWEVER THE POINT IN TIME COUNT RECENTLY DID JUST SHOW NOT ONLY AN OVERALL 7% INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS, BUT A 7% DECREASE IN HOMELESSNESS, IN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT AN INCREASE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF BEXAR COUNTY.

SO THIS THIS IS FORTUITOUS THAT WE'RE DOING IT NOW BECAUSE THAT POPULATION IS GROWING, BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN THE AMOUNT OF EFFORTS IN THERE.

AND WE DID JUST RECENTLY FINALIZE OUR CONTRACT WITH LEON VALLEY ITSELF.

SO THE ADDITIONAL $40,000 IN ADDITION TO THE 110 WILL ALL BE AVAILABLE TO US SO WE CAN FULLY IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM WITH OUR TWO OUTREACH WORKERS AND ALL THE SUPPLIES NEEDED.

AND WITH RESPECT TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, WHICH OF THOSE AREAS IN, I GUESS BY QUADRANT WHERE GEOGRAPHY AND WHAT AREAS THAT YOU SEE ARE SOME OF THE LARGEST NUMBERS IN IN FOR THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER AND THEN THERE'S A LARGER NUMBER IN ONE AS WELL.

SO IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

SO IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF DISTRIBUTED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN BECAUSE IT'S THE NUMBERS ARE SMALLER.

SO IT'S DISTRIBUTED MORE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

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BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO LARGEST COMMISSIONER DISTRICTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH KIM.

YES. DON'T GO AWAY.

YEAH. I WOULD LIKE THIS CONVERSATION TO BE ON THE RECORD, TO HELP, PERHAPS THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THE MOST RECENT PUBLICITY.

YEAH, THAT WAS COVERED.

OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IT MADE THE HEADLINES THAT THE THE HOMELESS POPULATION HAS INCREASED PURSUANT TO THIS POINT IN TIME COUNT. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. BUT ALSO READ AND I WANT CLARITY ON THIS, THAT THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS UNSHELTERED.

WAS REDUCED.

IS THAT DID I GET THAT OR AM I MIXING MIXING THINGS UP? TECHNICALLY IN THE COUNT FROM PRIOR YEAR IT WENT UP 14 INDIVIDUALS.

SO 1414 MORE INDIVIDUALS WERE UNSHELTERED IN THE 24 COUNT FROM THE 23 COUNT.

HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS GONE DOWN BY 25%.

SO THAT'S WHAT. SO MOST OF THE THE GROWTH IN THE HOMELESS POPULATION IS PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SHELTER.

AND A LOT OF THAT IS FAMILIES.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT. CLEAR.

YES. THE HOMELESS POPULATION HAS INCREASED.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE COMMITMENT BOTH THE CITY COUNTY, STATE, FEDERAL ON THE FUNDING DOLLARS TO INCREASE CAPACITY FOR THE HOMELESS.

WE BASICALLY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE SHELTER FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT, YES, DEFINITELY EXPERIENCED.

AND AS FAR AS FROM THE YEAR BEFORE TO NOW, IT INCREASED JUST THE AGGREGATE NUMBER OF 14, WHICH I SUBMIT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH A STATIC LINE ON THE ON THE GRAPH. CORRECT? YEAH. IT WAS 874 TO 888 UNSHELTERED, BUT OVER FIVE YEAR PERIOD IT'S ABOUT 25% DECREASE.

CORRECT. WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, IS IT NOT? IT IS. WHICH TELLS US THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

WHAT I WANT TO TAKEAWAY SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND IN A FASHION THAT IS REALLY, TRULY EFFECTIVE AND PROMOTES COLLABORATION, COORDINATION.

AND SO I REALLY WANT CLARITY THERE SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, BECAUSE I THINK THE, THE READ THERE FROM THE MEDIA WAS THERE'S MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE. I THINK THERE ARE EFFORTS PERHAPS AT THE CITY LEVEL TO PUT OUT SIGNAGE, AND I RESPECT THOSE STRATEGIES. BUT I THINK THE STRATEGY IS TO INCREASE CAPACITY FOR THE HOMELESS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE HAVEN.

AND THEN THE OTHER COMMITMENT WE MADE WAS TOWN TWIN.

AND THEN ON THE LONG TERM, THE HOMES THAT ARE ZECHIA.

SO CAN YOU GIVE US A PERSPECTIVE? DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? I REALLY KIND OF WANT YOU TO WRAP IT TOGETHER SO THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE AND THAT WE ARE GETTING AHEAD OF IT, DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER ELIMINATE IT.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER WERE.

I THINK THAT'S UNREALISTIC, BUT I THINK WE ARE DOING A HECK OF A JOB.

AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND ALL THE ADVOCATES, ESPECIALLY AT THE CLOSE TO HOME CONFERENCE THAT WE HAD.

AND PERHAPS YOU CAN ALSO EXPOUND ON THE GREAT CONFERENCE WE JUST HAD AND THE RECOGNITION THAT WE GAVE TO ALL THE ADVOCATES, THE CASEWORKERS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE HARD WORK. SO I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU AND ALL THE ADVOCATES ARE DOING.

SO I KNOW THAT COULD TAKE THE REST OF THE MORNING, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY CLEARLY SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT WE'RE DOING.

CAN YOU DO THAT FOR ME? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

YOU KNOW, HOMELESSNESS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE.

THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET.

THERE IS NO MAGIC THING WE CAN DO TO ELIMINATE HOMELESSNESS.

THERE'S A VARIETY OF FACTORS THAT LEAD PEOPLE TO HOMELESSNESS.

A LOT OF IT IS TRAUMA PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THEIR LIVES.

SO UNTIL WE SOLVE CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND INCARCERATION AND ALL OF THESE THINGS, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS.

HOMELESSNESS NATIONALLY IS GROWING.

SAN ANTONIO IS EXPERIENCING THAT AS WELL.

THOSE ARE DRIVEN LARGELY.

THE INCREASES ARE LARGELY DRIVEN HERE BY OUR MARKET, THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS OUR MARKET HAS INCREASED PRICING.

MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN POVERTY, AS WE KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY, OUT OF THE HOMES THAT THEY USED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD, WE HAVE MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILIES WHO LIVE TOGETHER.

AND WHEN ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS PASSES AWAY, THEY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO STAY WHERE THEY ARE.

SO WE HAVE SOME COMPLEX ISSUES JUST BECAUSE OF THE SAN ANTONIO CULTURE AND DEMOGRAPHICS HERE THAT ADD TO IT AND LEAD PEOPLE TO HOMELESSNESS.

WE ALSO HAVE AN AGING POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS LEADING TO MORE AND MORE HOMELESSNESS.

SO ALL OF THOSE FACTORS GROW HOMELESSNESS.

AND SO AS A COMMUNITY IT'S OUR GOAL TO MOVE THOSE PEOPLE INTO SAFE PLACES AND BACK INTO STABLE HOUSING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

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AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GET THEM ENGAGED IN SERVICES AND INTO SAFE SHELTER.

SO WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HAVEN FOR HOPE, THE SALVATION ARMY, SAM MINISTRIES, LOW BARRIER, NON-CONGREGATE HOTEL, WHATEVER THE BEST OPTION IS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WE HAVE, WE COLLECTIVELY WORK TOGETHER AND WE HAVE CENTRALIZED THIS YEAR ALL OF THE SHELTER BEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH HAVEN.

AND SO THE OUTREACH WORKERS HAVE ONE PLACE TO CALL, AND THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BEST PLACEMENT FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL IS, AND WE CAN GET THEM PLACED IN THAT SHELTER.

AND SO THAT THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO GETTING MORE PEOPLE OFF OF THE STREETS, ALLOWING US TO TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACEMENT THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL OR THAT FAMILY.

AND. BEST SUIT THEIR NEEDS AND THEN GETTING THEM CONNECTED TO SERVICES AND THEN STABLY HOUSED FROM THERE.

THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL. SO IN ANY COMMUNITY, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SHELTERED OVER YOUR POINT IN TIME COUNT.

SAN ANTONIO HAS ABOUT 73% OF OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT ARE IN SHELTER.

THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 60%.

SO WE'RE DOING SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER OF GETTING PEOPLE INTO SHELTER, WHICH THEN GETS THEM ACCESS TO SERVICES THAN IF WE LEAVE THEM UNSHELTERED.

AND THE FACT THAT OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, YOU KNOW, GREW BY 14 PEOPLE OVER THE LAST YEAR IS SIGNIFICANT AS WELL, BECAUSE UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IS GROWING AT A MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT RATE.

SO IF YOU LOOK JUST NATIONALLY, HOW WE'RE DOING RELATIVE TO THOSE TWO THINGS, PEOPLE IN SHELTER AND THE THE THE MINIMAL GROWTH IN OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, WE'RE DOING BETTER. AND SO WE'RE GIVING THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE FAMILIES, THOSE SINGLE MOMS, THOSE, YOU KNOW, ELDERLY FOLKS A PLACE TO BE, A SAFE PLACE TO BE, AND THEN ACCESS TO HOUSING RESOURCES AND THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TOWN, TWIN AND ALL OF THOSE.

THAT'S WHAT GETS PEOPLE OUT OF SHELTERS.

SO WE NEED, YOU KNOW, SHELTER SERVICES AND WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING SERVICES.

WE NEED IT ALL WORKING TOGETHER.

AND WE ALL WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER.

CLOSE TO HOME IS OUR LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE.

AND SO THEY ALL OF THE HUD FUNDING COMES THROUGH THEM AND THEY COORDINATE US ALL SO THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING WELL TOGETHER TO ENSURE THE RESOURCES GO TO THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING AND THAT KIND OF SUPPORT.

AND SO WE HAVE CALLS EVERY OTHER WEEK AS A COLLABORATION.

ALL OF US LEADERS GET TOGETHER, CEOS ONLY ON THE CALLS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN ADJUST AS NECESSARY WITH THE CHANGING ENVIRONMENT AROUND US. AND SO WE ARE WORKING EXTREMELY WELL TOGETHER.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN SHELTER OF OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT IS SIGNIFICANT AND THERE'S SMALLER UNSHELTERED.

WE AREN'T GOING TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS, AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW IN THESE ECONOMIC FACTORS, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF MANAGING IT.

LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

OBVIOUSLY, THE UNSHELTERED OR THE POPULATION STILL LIVING UNDER THE BRIDGES, CULVERTS, TREES, WHEREVER THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT POPULATION IS WHAT CREATES CONCERN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO WHAT OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD PRESUME THAT THAT YOUR COLLABORATION, YOUR ADVOCATES HAVE PROBABLY TOUCHED EVERY HOMELESS PERSON EITHER THAT'S IN SHELTER OR HAS TRANSITIONED AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO THE UNSHELTERED.

SO WHAT IS THERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE A CHANGE OF STRATEGY FOR THAT DIFFICULT POPULATION? THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE INTO SHELTER AND THEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED TO REPRIORITIZE OUR FOCUS ON SERVICES WE JUST CREATED OR JUST PASSED A OUTREACH PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF LEON VALLEY AND HOPEFULLY TO EXPAND IT.

AND I THINK WE REALLY WANT IT EXPANDED INTO THE OTHER SUBURBAN CITIES, WHICH, NATURALLY, WE TRANSITION OVER TO BALCONES HEIGHTS.

YOU'VE ALREADY INDICATED THAT THE POPULATION IS NOW MOVING TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.

SO I WANT TO KNOW, DO WE NEED ANY SPECIAL STRATEGIES? ULTIMATELY, WHAT RESOURCES ARE YOU GOING TO NEED OTHER THAN WHAT Y'ALL ARE GETTING NOW OR DOING NOW? DO YOU GET MY QUESTION? I DO IT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER BECAUSE THIS THIS THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS THAT HAVE LED TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ON OUR STREETS.

AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE NICK'S HOSPITAL CLOSED, WE LOST 130 PSYCH BEDS.

SO THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN PSYCHIATRIC BEDS NEEDED THAT LEVEL OF CARE, WERE PUSHED TO THE STREETS.

AND SO A LOT OF THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A RATIONAL CONVERSATION WITH ABOUT THEIR OWN PERSONAL WELL-BEING ARE NOT COGNITIVELY IN THE SPACE, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTIVE IN THEIR ADDICTION OR THEY HAVE SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ACROSS OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE ABOUT HOW ARE WE WRAPPING AROUND DOING SOME STREET MEDICINE.

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SO CORAZON IS LOOKING AT HOW CAN THEY INCORPORATE STREET MEDICINE.

AND THEN CHRISTIAN ASSISTANCE MINISTRIES IS LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY, HOW CAN THEY BRING PSYCHIATRIC CARE INTO UNSHELTERED POPULATIONS, NOT REQUIRING PEOPLE TO COME INTO SERVICES SOMEWHERE.

SO WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE PILOTS COULD BE.

AND THEY'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPING THOSE PILOTS.

NOW THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN LEON VALLEY.

WELL, I THINK YOU'VE HIT I THINK WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO DO AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO DO IS RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND NEEDS OF THIS POPULATION, WHICH POSSIBLY WOULD MEAN THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE COMMITMENT, THE FINANCING OF PSYCHIATRIC BEDS.

SO. UNFORTUNATELY, NO, THEY'RE NOT FUNDABLE.

PRIVATE HOSPITAL.

YEAH. SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING.

YES. JUDGE TO TWO QUESTIONS.

MR. CALVERT. TWO QUESTIONS.

DOES ANYONE IN A LOT OF CASES WHERE THERE ARE FAMILIES LIVING TOGETHER WHEN, AS YOU SAID, SOMEONE DIES, THE PROBATE IS A MAJOR ISSUE IN TERMS OF THE TITLE.

SO DOES HAVEN OR ANY OTHER GROUP DEALING WITH THE UNSHELTERED HAVE A ROBUST PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE STAY IN THE MOST AFFORDABLE HOME THEY, THEY HAVE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THEY'RE IN NOW WITH THOSE PROBATE ISSUES THAT HAVE REALLY HIT THE INNER CITY IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY.

SO SAINT MARY'S LAW STUDENTS ARE DOING SOME OF THAT WORK IN PROGRAMING THERE WITH THIS POPULATION.

AND TLRA DOES A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WORK, TOO.

MOST OF THAT'S DONE OUTSIDE OF OUR CAMPUS BECAUSE THAT'S BEFORE THEY, THEY COME INTO, INTO HOMELESSNESS.

BUT WE HAVE THEM ON OUR CAMPUS TOO, THAT CAN HELP NAVIGATE THAT.

SO THEY'RE BOTH PARTNERS ON OUR CAMPUS THAT CAN HELP SUPPORT THAT WORK IF SOMEBODY NEEDS IT WHILE THEY'RE ON OUR CAMPUS.

TYPICALLY IT HAPPENS OUTSIDE, THOUGH, BEFORE THEY GET TO US.

SO THERE ARE PROGRAMS HOW ROBUST THEY ARE.

I COULDN'T SPEAK TO BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE.

YEAH, I WOULD YOU KNOW, TEXAS RURAL LEGAL AID IS ALWAYS UNDERFUNDED.

YEAH, ALWAYS IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD LOOK AT SUPPORTING, BECAUSE IT'LL STABILIZE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO IN MANY CASES ARE, FRANKLY, COUCH SURFING OR RETURNING BACK TO HOME OR MAYBE A COLLEGE AGE, YOU KNOW, OR A WORKER IN A PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, RETAIL JOB WHO JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO GO INTO AN APARTMENT.

OKAY. SO THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION.

THE SECOND QUESTION WAS RELATED TO PROJECTIONS.

IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T TAKE AN ECONOMIST TO FIGURE OUT THAT WHEN THE HOUSING AND THE RENTAL PRICE IS SO HIGH, IT WILL EVENTUALLY MERIT A OFFLOADING OF A NUMBER OF PEOPLE OUT OF HOUSING.

SO HOW HOW ARE YOU? DO YOU HAVE PROJECTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE MEDIAN PRICE IS 300, WHATEVER IT IS NOW IN SAN ANTONIO, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR EVERY $10,000 INCREASE IN THE HOUSING PRICES AND THE RENTAL PRICES INCREASES, DO YOU DO YOU SHOW A CORRELATION BETWEEN THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS? YOU HAVE PROJECTIONS YOU'RE WORKING ON? YES. THERE'S AN 88% CORRELATION BETWEEN.

SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY 1 TO 1, BUT IT'S 88% FROM HOUSING PRICES AND HOMELESSNESS.

SO AS HOUSING PRICES INCREASE, YOU KNOW, 88%, YOU KNOW, CORRELATION TO INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS.

SO OUR PROJECTIONS AT HAVEN, WE HAVE A DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND DATA SCIENCE AT HAVEN.

SO OUR LAST YEAR WE SERVED, YOU KNOW, 9457 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS AT HAVEN.

SO 9500 INDIVIDUALS BY 2030.

SO WITHIN THE NEXT SIX YEARS WE'LL BE HAVING TO SERVE 13,000 INDIVIDUALS BASED ON THE CURRENT ECONOMIC FACTORS AND HOUSING PRICES AND THE PROJECTED GROWTH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER COWARD'S FOCUS ON LEGAL SERVICES.

I THINK THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY PARTNER UP WITH THE BAR ASSOCIATION, THE COURT SYSTEM HERE, AND COMMISSIONERS COURT.

SO IT'S GREAT PREVENTION.

ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE THAT GREAT CONVERSATION.

I'M COMMITTED TO LOOK TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY FOR LEGAL SERVICES FOR THOSE THAT ARE MOST IN NEED, ESPECIALLY THE HOMELESS POPULATION.

ALL RIGHT, KIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT. OH, COMMISSIONER.

JUDGE SORRY.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

KIM, I JUST HAD I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY OTHERS ON THE COURT.

YOU KNOW CLEARLY SOME PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AS YOU INDICATED.

AND WE'VE INVESTED IN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THERE.

ARE WE KEEPING TRACK OF, LIKE, OCCUPANCY RATES ON ALL THE CURRENT SHELTERS? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL? IF SO ULTIMATELY, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AS AS THE JUDGE INDICATED.

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RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A CAPACITY ISSUE, AT WHAT POINT DO WE FIX THE CAPACITY ISSUE, BUT THE REMAINING UNSHELTERED WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN A DIFFERENT WAY, RIGHT.

ONCE WE WE HAVE THE BED CAPACITY, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT BEING UTILIZED BY THOSE THAT ARE STILL UNSHELTERED.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO IT.

UNFORTUNATELY, FROM HAVEN'S PERSPECTIVE, WE DO HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE BEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO OUR WE HAVE BEEN OVER CAPACITY JUST, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN AT HAVEN.

SO I'VE BEEN AT HAVEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

SO WE'VE BEEN OVER CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.

TODAY WE HAVE 1624 PEOPLE STAYING THERE, DESIGNED FOR 1450.

WE HAVE SOME FLEX SPACES THAT WE CAN USE THAT'S LARGELY FAMILIES.

OUR OCCUPANCY.

RATE TENDS TO BE AROUND 9,495% BECAUSE THAT'S INS AND OUTS.

SO IT ENDS UP BEING THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT BEDS ONLY, SO NOT MATS THAT WE WHEN YOU JUST LOOK AT THE BED COUNT.

SO THAT'S HOW WE LOOK AT OUR OCCUPANCY.

AND SO WE TEND TO BE AROUND 94, 95% FULL ALL THE TIME.

THE SAM SHELTER HAS TAKEN THEIR LOW BARRIER NON-CONGREGATE SHELTER.

THEIR HOTEL HAS TAKEN A LITTLE BIT TO GET UP AND RUNNING, BUT THEY'RE ENROLLING, YOU KNOW, 5 TO 6 INDIVIDUALS FROM THE STREETS THROUGH OUR CENTRALIZED SHELTER COORDINATION ON A WEEKLY BASIS. SO THAT'S CONTINUING TO HAPPEN.

SO THEY'RE PROBABLY GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO CAPACITY.

BUT I DON'T HAVE THOSE EXACT NUMBERS.

BUT THAT IN ADDITION TO HAVEN, WE CARVED OUT 80 BEDS SPECIFICALLY THIS YEAR FOR UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS DIRECTLY COMING FROM STREET OUTREACH IN OUR LOW BARRIER SIDE, THAT AN ACTUAL BUNK.

SO THOSE ARE FULL.

AND THOSE ARE WHERE, WHERE 90 LIKE THEY WERE 98% FULL WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF OPENING.

SO THAT STUFF FILLS UP VERY QUICKLY WHEN YOU HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

SO PEOPLE ARE COMING IN OFF THE STREETS, BUT THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE FOR LOW BARRIER SHELTER JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, WHERE THEY HAVE PLACEMENT AND BEDS, BECAUSE I THINK, LIKE ANY HUMAN, I WANT THE DIGNITY OF BEING PLACED IN A BUNK OR A BED, NOT A MAT ON THE FLOOR.

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENCE IN IT.

AND SO WHILE HAVEN HAS A LOT OF CAPACITY, 450 OF OUR 650 IN THE IN OUR LOW BARRIER SIDE ARE MATS ON THE FLOOR.

AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 200 THAT ARE IN BUNKS.

AND SO I THINK THE MORE WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AS HAVEN AND AS A COMMUNITY, CHANGE THAT CAPACITY AND ALLOW FOR MORE BEDS.

WE'LL GET MORE PEOPLE INTO SHELTER IN THAT WAY WE'RE DOING.

BUT THOSE TWO FACTORS, THE LOW BARRIER SHELTER AND US DOING FOR SAM AND US DOING 80 BEDS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUTREACH, HAVE REALLY WE BOUGHT WE BROUGHT IN OVER 300 PEOPLE SINCE FROM THE STREETS SINCE WE OPENED THAT PROGRAM JANUARY 26TH OF THIS YEAR.

SO MAKING SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN THAT AREA.

BUT WE STILL NEED TO FOCUS ON CAPACITY THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET ME JUST CLOSE WITH THESE COMMENTS.

I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

HE AND I CALLED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A HOMELESS STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM TO COVER LEON VALLEY, TRYING TO BRING IT BACK.

AND WE THINK THIS IS A PILOT PROJECT THAT WE CAN LOOK TO EXPAND TO ALL PARTS OF THE COUNTY, INCLUDING THE SUBURBAN CITIES AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR SUBURBAN CITIES ARE NECESSARY TO MAKE THE BIGGEST PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT.

WE CAN EXCLUDE THE SUBURBAN CITIES, AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PERHAPS HAS THE RESOURCES AND THE FOCUS.

ULTIMATELY. AND, KIM, I THINK THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

SOMETIMES WE MOVE THE HOMELESS POPULATION AROUND.

AND SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A PARTNERSHIP WITH ALL OUR GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO REALLY INTERACT AND INTERDICT INTO THESE DIFFICULT, COMPLEX SITUATIONS. THE APPROVAL OF THIS CONTRACT WITH HAVEN FOLK TODAY WILL INITIATE THE STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM.

WE WILL MEASURE THE RESULTS.

SO, KIM, PLEASE TELL ALL THE ADVOCATES I'LL LOOK FOR THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND HOPING THAT WE CAN SEE THE RETURN TO EXPAND THE COMMITMENT THAT WE CAN DO THIS WILL HELP GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS WITH THE SERVICES AND THE HOUSING OPTIONS.

SO I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I ANY OPPOSED, ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

WE'RE GRATEFUL. KIM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT AND THE REPORT FOR TODAY.

WE'LL DEFINITELY BE BACK TO SHOW YOU RESULTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S TAKE UP AGENDA SEVEN.

[7. Commissioners Court minutes for Tuesday, May 21, 2024.]

COMMISSIONER. COURT MINUTES FOR TUESDAY, MAY 21ST, 2024.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

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ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, COMMUNICATION FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

[8. Communications from citizens who signed the register to speak.]

AND WE'LL START WITH HEATHER IKRI.

OKAY. LET ME LOOK FOR PURPOSES OF CLARITY.

LET ME JUST. HEATHER, WHERE IS THAT? YOU. THERE'S ALSO, IT APPEARS I JUST WANT TO ALIGN IT.

SO BECAUSE I SEE SEVERAL WE HAVE A JEREMIAH GARZA.

OKAY. HUDSON LOCK.

YES, SIR. AND CLIFF JENKINS.

OKAY. AND ALL FOUR WISH TO SPEAK.

YES. WE'LL DO.

LET'S JUST LET EVERYBODY. SO, HEATHER, I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL STAY AT THE PODIUM.

HEATHER EICHLIN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YES. SO GOOD MORNING.

WELL, WE CAME HERE IN JANUARY FOR HELP AMERICA VOTE DAY.

JUDGE SAKAI ASKED WHERE ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

SO I BROUGHT A COUPLE OF YOUNG PEOPLE WITH ME TODAY.

HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

I'M THRILLED TO BE HERE TODAY AS THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF YOUTH DO VOTE.

AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE WE HAVE HERE JEREMIAH GARZA, WHO JUST COMPLETED HIS SOPHOMORE YEAR AT SAINT PHILIP'S EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL IN SISD.

AND HE WORKED THE MAY 28TH ELECTION AT THE VOTE CENTER IN YOUNG MEN AT YOUNG MEN'S LEADERSHIP ACADEMY WITH ELECTION JUDGE PETER MCGINNITY.

JEREMIAH IS MOTIVATED TO ALSO WORK THE JUNE 15TH ELECTION IF I CAN FIND HIM A SPOT.

AND NEXT WE HAVE.

CAN YOU SLOW DOWN? JUST. I KNOW WE GOT YOU ON THE CLOCK, BUT.

YES. OKAY.

I'M TRYING TO. YES.

SO NEXT WE HAVE STUDENT ELECTION CLERK HUDSON LOCK, WHO JUST COMPLETED HIS JUNIOR YEAR AT RONALD REAGAN HIGH SCHOOL IN NISD.

AND HE WORKED HIS FIRST ELECTION IN NOVEMBER 2023 WITH ELECTION JUDGE CLIFF JENKINS AND MYSELF AND MCCRELESS LIBRARY, AND ALSO WORKED THE MARCH 5TH PRIMARY WITH US. AND WE MENTIONED CLIFF JENKINS, WHO'S HERE WITH ME.

HE'S ALSO ON THE BOARD OF YOUTH DO VOTE, AND HE'S HIRED MULTIPLE HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE STUDENTS SINCE 2022.

I THINK IT'S IT'S BEEN SAID THAT POLL WORKERS ARE GROUND ZERO FOR OUR DEMOCRACY AND THAT THEY ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM.

BRINGING YOUNG PEOPLE INTO THIS CRITICAL PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS HAS MULTIPLE BENEFITS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT FILLS A CRITICAL NEED FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT THROUGH OUR PILOT PROGRAM IN THE 2023 2024 SCHOOL YEAR, YOUTH TO VOTE WAS ABLE TO RECRUIT MORE THAN 30 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS INTERESTED IN BECOMING STUDENT ELECTION CLERKS.

AND COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU'LL BE PROUD TO KNOW THAT ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS IS YOUR MENTEE, ELIZABETH JACKSON, AT CLARK HIGH SCHOOL.

ONE OF THOSE RECRUITED, 14 WERE PLACED AT VOTE CENTERS THROUGHOUT BEXAR COUNTY DURING THE ELECTIONS OF NOVEMBER 2023, THE MARCH PRIMARY MAY 4TH, AND LAST WEEK'S PRIMARY RUNOFF.

I HOPE TO PLACE A FEW OF THOSE STUDENTS FOR JUNE 15TH AS WELL.

THESE 14 STUDENTS COME FROM EIGHT HIGH SCHOOLS REPRESENTING FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

THAT'S SA ISD, JUDSON, NORTHSIDE ISD, AND NORTHEAST, AND THE STUDENTS RANGE IN AGE FROM 16 TO 18.

SO THEY'RE SOPHOMORES, JUNIORS AND SENIORS.

AND WE PLAN TO EXPAND THIS PROGRAM FOR NOVEMBER AND HOPING TO HAVE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.

WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST TIME INTENSIVE PARTS OF MY JOB.

IT IS ALSO THE MOST REWARDING TO SEE THESE STUDENTS FEEL EMPOWERED BY BECOMING NOT JUST INFORMED VOTERS, BUT KNOWLEDGEABLE COWORKERS WHO ARE PROUD TO HAVE PLAYED THIS CRITICAL ROLE IN OUR DEMOCRACY.

IT TRULY MAKES ME PROUD, PARTICULARLY AT A TIME WHEN OUR COUNTRY IS FACING ELECTION DENIERS.

NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, OF THE TOP FIVE COUNTIES IN TEXAS, BEXAR COUNTY IS THE ONLY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT THAT DOES NOT HAVE INFORMATION ON ITS WEBSITE ABOUT BECOMING A STUDENT ELECTION CLERK. BUT FORTUNATELY, YOUTH DO VOTE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE UNITED STATES ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION, AND WE WERE ABLE TO USE PART OF THOSE FUNDS TO CREATE OUR OWN WEB PAGES FOR BOTH COLLEGE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, TO INFORM THEM ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK, AS WELL AS THE PROCESS AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR WORKING ON ELECTION.

AND TIME IS EXPIRED.

GO AHEAD, WRAP IT UP.

OKAY, SO WELL, WELL, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MEET WITH OUR ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR DESPITE MULTIPLE REQUESTS.

WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE BUILDING SO MANY PARTNERSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH EDUCATORS LIKE FORMER NORTHSIDE SUPERINTENDENT DOCTOR BRIAN WOODS AND CHRISTINA MARTINEZ, PRESIDENT OF THE CISD SCHOOL BOARD, WHO IS NOW WITH PARTNERSHIPS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. JUDGE, I JUST HAD I COULDN'T HEAR ONE SENTENCE.

YOU SAID WE WERE THE ONLY ELECTION DEPARTMENT WHO DIDN'T HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUTH BEING A PART.

YES. REPEAT THAT. YEAH, YEAH.

SO THE TOP FIVE COUNTIES IN TEXAS TRAVIS HARRIS I'M FORGETTING ALL THE OTHERS.

EL PASO. AND ANYWAY, THOSE TOP FIVE COUNTIES, BEXAR COUNTY IS THE ONLY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT THAT DOES NOT HAVE INFORMATION ON ITS WEBSITE ABOUT STUDENT ELECTION CLERKS.

OKAY, WELL, MY OFFICE WILL FACILITATE THE MEETING WITH THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND WORK TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT IN THE DARK.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. JEREMIAH? NO. JEREMIAH.

GARCIA. SO THEY THEY WERE YIELDING THEIR TIME.

OH, WELL, IF THEY'RE YIELDING THE TIME, YOU CAN I CAN KEEP GOING.

I WOULD LIKE JEREMIAH AND HUDSON, SINCE THEY APPEARED TO BE THEY WERE STUDENT STUDENT ELECTION CLERKS.

I'D INVITE THEM TO SPEAK AND PERHAPS THEY CAN JUST TELL US ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE.

SO LET'S GO WITH JEREMIAH, YOUR FIRST.

AND YOU GET TO STATE YOUR OPINION.

THAT'S WHAT THIS CITIZENS TO BE HEARD MEANS.

SO I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS WHATEVER OPINIONS YOU HAVE.

SO, JEREMIAH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO BE HELPING MY COMMUNITY BE THERE, VOTE FOR PEOPLE AROUND ME.

THIS IS MY ACTUALLY MY FIRST JOB WORKING.

IT'S BEEN REALLY GREAT FOR ME TO LEARN, SO.

THANK YOU. HOW ABOUT YOU, HUDSON LOCK? I DEFINITELY FEEL THAT BEING AN ELECTION CLERK IS ONE OF THE MOST FULFILLING OPPORTUNITIES THAT I'VE EVER HAD AS A YOUNG PERSON.

YOU KNOW, WE AREN'T REALLY TAUGHT ABOUT HOW THE INSTITUTIONS AROUND US WORK AND OUR GENERAL HIGH SCHOOLS.

I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE ELECTION MACHINES DO BECAUSE WE WEREN'T TAUGHT ABOUT THAT.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I COULD GET REGISTERED TO VOTE, AND THEN I HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET INVOLVED AT THE BASELINE.

AND I LEARNED SO MUCH.

AND I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BECAUSE YOU LEARN SO MUCH.

YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE HOW THE MACHINES WORKED, AND I REALLY FELT SAFE WITH OUR ELECTIONS.

I ALSO LEARNED HOW I COULD GET REGISTERED MYSELF AND HOW TO REGISTER OTHER PEOPLE.

I GOT TO KNOW WHAT ALL THE FORMS MEANT AND HOW TO FILE THEM PROPERLY AND REALLY GET HANDS ON EXPERIENCE, AND IT WAS JUST SO FULFILLING.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT MORE PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

AND AS HEATHER WAS SAYING, IF BEXAR COUNTY REALLY GETS HANDS ON AND TELLS YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU CAN GET INVOLVED IN THIS WAY, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN GET PAID FOR AND YOU GET TIME OFF OF SCHOOL FOR IT, MORE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AND MORE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL LEARN THESE INCREDIBLE LIFE SKILLS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CLIFF JENKINS.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CLIFF JENKINS.

I'M AN ELECTION JUDGE FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR BEXAR COUNTY FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW.

I WORK BOTH ELECTION DAYS AND EARLY VOTING SITES IN BEXAR COUNTY.

FIRST OFF, I'M UP HERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF READING TWO TESTIMONIALS OF FOLKS WHO WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.

THE FIRST IS ANOTHER STUDENT ELECTION.

A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC.

YES, SIR. SORRY.

THANK YOU. THE FIRST STUDENT ELECTION CLERK I WOULD LIKE TO READ THEIR TESTIMONIAL IS FERINGA URSELL, A SENIOR AT CLARK HIGH SCHOOL.

YOUTH TO VOTE IS A GREAT PROGRAM THAT HAS REALLY HELPED ME TO HELPED TO ENGAGE MY SENSE OF CIVIC DUTY AS A 17 YEAR OLD WHO TURNS 18 SOON AND WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE IN THIS YEAR'S FALL ELECTION. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS HOW EXACTLY THE VOTING PROCESS WORKED, SO I DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED.

WORKING THE MAY 4TH ELECTION WITH BOTH.

JUDGE IVES WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE AND THE TWO ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS I HAD ABOUT POLLING PLACES AND LET ME GET HANDS ON WITH HELPING VOTERS.

NOW, KNOWING HOW ONE VOTES, I'M MORE EXCITED THAN NERVOUS TO CAST MY BALLOT THIS FALL.

THE SECOND TESTIMONIAL COMES FROM ONE OF THOSE JUDGE IVES, SUSAN IVES.

SUSAN STATES I AM AN ELECTION JUDGE AT LEON SPRINGS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

MOST OF OUR VISITORS VOTERS LIVE IN THE DOMINION OR THE BEXAR COUNTY PART OF BERNIE COME NOVEMBER.

MY HUSBAND, JOHN AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING THERE TEN YEARS.

DURING THE PAST TWO ELECTIONS, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE HAVE HAD HIGH SCHOOL CLERKS IN THE MAY 4TH GENERAL SPECIAL ED BOND ELECTION, PHARYNGEAL OR CELL. A SENIOR SOON TO BE GRADUATE AT CLARK HIGH SCHOOL WORKED FOR HOURS AS LUNCH RELIEF.

SHE WAS PROFESSIONAL, QUICK ON THE UPTAKE AND GREAT WITH THE VOTERS.

WE ONLY HAD 26 VOTERS, BUT SHE GOT TO WORK AT EVERY STATION AND AFTER WORKING THE ELECTION, SHE STILL HAD TIME TO ATTEND HER PROM THAT NIGHT.

WE EXPECTED THE MAY 28TH RUNOFF TO BE VERY SLOW, BUT TO OUR SURPRISE, WE HAD 177 VOTERS.

ASHTON HAWTHORNE, A JUNIOR AT COMMUNICATIONS ART TAFT HIGH SCHOOL, CLERKED FOR US ALL DAY, 14 HOURS FROM SET UP TO TEAR DOWN.

HE, TOO, WAS PROFESSIONAL, SMART AND CONGENIAL.

WE HAVE MANY POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM THE VOTERS WHO WERE EXCITED TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE WORKING AT THE POLLS.

BOTH STUDENTS DEALT WITH THE OCCASIONAL INAPPROPRIATE REMARK WITH GRACE AND POISE.

WE WOULD HIRE EITHER ONE OF THEM AGAIN FOR ANY ELECTION, AND WOULD RECOMMEND THAT OTHER ELECTION JUDGE ACTIVELY SEEK OUT HIGH SCHOOL CLERKS BY WORKING THROUGH YOUTH.

DO VOTE IN THE QUICK REMAINING TIME.

I'M GOING TO GO IMPROVISING A LITTLE BIT HERE AND POINT OUT THAT I, AS A JUDGE, I HAVE EMPLOYED BOTH HUDSON LOCKE, WHO IS OUTSTANDING, AND SEVERAL CLERKS FROM TRINITY

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UNIVERSITY. EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS BROUGHT AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF ENERGY, THE ABILITY TO LEARN QUICKLY.

OUR AVERAGE JUDGE IN THIS SYSTEM IS 69 YEARS OLD.

I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU AS A YOUNG JUDGE, FOUR YEARS INTO MEDICARE.

WE NEED THIS ENERGY.

WE NEED THIS ENTHUSIASM.

WE NEED TO DEMYSTIFY THE PROCESS OF VOTING.

AS WAS STATED EARLIER MORE EXCITED THAN NERVOUS.

WE NEED YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE EXCITED AND UNDERSTAND AND DEMYSTIFY THE PROCESS IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO HELP US PUT ON OUR PROGRAMS, AND WE ASK THAT THE COMMISSION AND JUDGE CONTINUE TO HELP US BREAK DOWN BARRIERS WITHIN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND BRING MORE YOUTH INTO THE VOTING SYSTEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LET ME DIRECT MY STAFF.

I BELIEVE MY STAFF IS IN CONTACT WITH YOU, HEATHER, BUT I'D LIKE MORE COMMUNICATION.

CONVERSATION WITH THE STUDENTS.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

SO I'VE ALERTED MY STAFF TO DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.

ALL RIGHT. JUDGE VERONICA VASQUEZ.

JUDGE, I KNOW YOU GOT A BUSY DAY, BUT LET'S.

YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

YES. AND THIS IS NOT PROBATE RELATED, SO.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT PROBATE.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.

I AM ACTUALLY HERE JUST ASKING FOR A REQUEST IN THE BUDGET TO HAVE BULLETPROOF FILM ON THE OUTSIDE, PUT ON THE OUTSIDE OF MY DOOR, IF YOU RECALL. SO UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT AT THE COURTHOUSE YESTERDAY.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE AWARE.

BUT YOU YOU WILL BE MADE AWARE THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT TRIED TO BRING IN A GUN AND THEY DID BRING IN, ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN A GUN TO THE COURTHOUSE.

MY MY DOOR IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE ENTRANCE ON NUEVA AND DWYER.

ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

IT'S THERE'S A WALL OF GLASS.

IT DOES NOT HAVE BULLETPROOF FILM.

AND I HAVE BEEN I'VE REQUESTED IN WRITING TWICE.

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE, BUT RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT I HAVE BULLETPROOF FILM BE PLACED ON THAT BECAUSE I AM AT THE CLOSEST ENTRANCE.

THE DOOR MONITORS DO A GREAT JOB ON THAT ENTRANCE.

THEY DID ALERT THE INDIVIDUAL YESTERDAY WITH THE GUN THAT HE COULD NOT PROCEED IN THE COURTHOUSE WITH A GUN.

HOWEVER, IF IT WAS AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION THAT MY OFFICE IS THE FIRST ONE THERE WITH GLASS, I HAVE EITHER REQUESTED GLASS THERE OR FOR A WALL TO BE PUT THERE BECAUSE I AM THE CLOSEST TO THE ENTRANCE.

THEY DO. IF THEY WANT IT TO BREACH SECURITY, IT'S RIGHT THERE.

AND SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OTHER COURTS IN THE COURTHOUSE DO HAVE BULLETPROOF FILM.

I AM ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

I AM THAT OFFICE ALSO FACING THE STREET.

SO IF SOMEONE DID WANT TO ACTIVELY SHOOT UP THE COURTHOUSE, I WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE THERE.

SO I AM JUST REQUESTING FOR MY COURTROOM.

I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PROBATE COURTS.

I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ME AND MY STAFF BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SECURITY BREACHES AND CLOSE TO MY OFFICE, AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING FOR THAT TO BE A BUDGET ITEM FOR THE PROTECTION OF MYSELF AND MY STAFF.

AND IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY ALSO APPREHENDED SOMEONE WITH A KNIFE OUTSIDE MY DOOR.

SO I'M JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT TO BE A BUDGET REQUEST THIS CYCLE FOR TO HAVE BULLETPROOF FILM.

THANK YOU. JUDGE, JUDGE, I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS BUREAU, BUT YOU'RE HERE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOUR STATUS AND THE ISSUE YOU'RE BRINGING TO US. SO I'M GOING TO GOING TO.

ENGAGE WITH YOU, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GENERALLY DO THAT.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS HAVE HAVE ALL THESE INCIDENCES BEEN REPORTED TO THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION AND ARE THEY BEING DOCUMENTED? AND THEN TWO ARE WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF DOCUMENTATION WITHIN THE COURTHOUSE? BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF PERHAPS A BREACH OF SECURITY FOR THE COURTHOUSE.

SO I PRESUME THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT IS WITH THE SHERIFF.

SO AND I'M NOT ASKING THE SHERIFF TO WEIGH IN.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF GETTING THESE ISSUES AND INCIDENCES DOCUMENTED.

SO CHIEF FLETCHER IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB.

HE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AFTER THE INCIDENT YESTERDAY, HE WAS MADE AWARE, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY MY BAILIFF THAT APPREHENDED THE PERSON THAT CAME IN WITH THE WEAPON AND TOOK HIM DOWNSTAIRS. WE DON'T HAVE THE OFFICIAL REPORT YET, SO I DON'T KNOW OFFICIALLY WHAT HAPPENED, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT SINCE I CANNOT MAKE THE NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I BROUGHT IT TO YOU ALL TO ASK FOR THAT SPECIFIC REQUEST.

BUT IT'S THE DOOR MONITORS THAT WILL ALSO ALERT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A SHERIFF THAT'S POSTED THERE AT SOME SOME POINT IN TIME.

AND I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE POLICE REPORT.

I MEAN, THE SHERIFF'S REPORT FROM YESTERDAY, I'M JUST COMING AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN FOR MYSELF AND MY STAFF AND AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ASK THAT THOSE INCIDENCES BE RECORDED.

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I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

IT IS IN ORDER FOR THE WHOLE SYSTEM TO BE AWARE OF THE CONTINUAL THREATS, ESPECIALLY UPON THE JUDICIARY.

THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I WOULD ASK IS, HAS THERE BEEN A CONVERSATION? WITH. THE REST OF THE COURT IN REGARDS TO OVERALL SECURITY.

I BELIEVE AS A FORMER DISTRICT COURT JUDGE, I BELIEVE JUDGE ARTEAGA TOOK LEADERSHIP IN GETTING A SECURITY ASSESSMENT DONE BY, I BELIEVE, BY THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES.

PERHAPS I THINK IT WAS THE US MARSHALS OFFICE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

HAS HAS THAT STUDY BEEN IS IT NEED TO BE UPDATED? CAN THE JUDICIARY, MEANING ALL THE JUDGES SPEAK IN THEIR SECURITY NEEDS SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO NOW THAT I SIT IN THIS CHAIR, TO BE REAL BLUNT WITH YOU, I GOT TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST.

AND SO AND THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY OTHER JUDGES HAVE OTHER SECURITY ISSUES TOO? SO CAN YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR IS THERE SOMEBODY WE CAN TALK TO SO THAT THEN THEY CAN CONFER WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE AND WE CAN KNOW WHAT ALL THE NEEDS FOR SECURITY FOR THE JUDGES ARE? YES, SIR. AND JUDGE ARTEAGA IS THE LEADER IN THAT.

SHE IS THE ONE THAT HEADS THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY.

SHE'S THE ONE THAT ALERTED ALL THE REST OF THE JUDGES THAT WERE PART OF THE.

SHE HAS A SEPARATE APP FOR THAT.

SHE ALERTED EVERYONE IN AN INFORMAL INFORMATION YESTERDAY I WAS ALERTED BECAUSE MY BAILIFF WAS INVOLVED.

AND THE COURT MONITORS, I MEAN, THE DOOR MONITORS ARE THE ONES RIGHT OUTSIDE MY DOOR, SO OBVIOUSLY I WAS ALERTED IN THAT WAY.

BUT SHE MADE THE REST OF THE JUDGES AWARE OF THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY AFTER THE INCIDENT HAPPENED.

SHE'S VERY GOOD ABOUT SENDING TEXT MESSAGES OUT WHEN THERE ARE CONTINUOUS THREATS AGAINST THE JUDICIARY OR THERE'S BOMB THREATS AT THE COURTHOUSE.

SHE DOES SEND THAT INFORMATION OUT.

SO SHE WOULD BE THE POINT OF CONTACT.

I JUST WAS COMING TODAY ON ON MY REQUEST FOR THE BULLETPROOF FILM.

AND AGAIN, THIS I JUST THINK BEING ON THAT FIRST FLOOR ANY OF THE OFFICE OR ANY OF THE COURTROOMS THAT ARE FACING THE STREET ARE VULNERABLE AND PARTICULARLY MINE, BECAUSE I'M THE CLOSEST TO THE ENTRANCE, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTRANCE IN ORDER TO GET TO MY MY OFFICE.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

WE'LL I'LL INSTRUCT STAFF TO TAKE UP THOSE ISSUES AND THEN PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET REQUEST OR WHATEVER PROCESS THERE IS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE TWO CONSTABLES HERE, BUT CONSTABLE VOJVODICH, YOU HAD SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

LET ME LET ME.

IF THERE'S NOT OBJECTION, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM 57 SINCE VOJVODICH DID SIGN UP AND IS.

[57. Approval of a request to delegate to the County Judge the authority to designate by written order to be filed in the official minutes of Commissioners Court one Deputy Constable per precinct as a weight enforcement officer upon successful completion of the free training provided by the Texas Department of Public Safety. The designated Deputy Constable from each precinct will be responsible for the weight enforcement duties in their respective precincts per Texas Transportation Code Section 621.4015.]

BUT I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT UP WITH AGENDA ITEM 57, APPROVAL OF A REQUEST.

AND I UNDERSTAND, CONSTABLE BROWN, YOU'RE HERE, AND WE'LL TAKE YOU UP AS SOON AS WE FINISH WITH CONSTABLE VOJVODICH.

ALL RIGHT, SO, AGENDA 57, APPROVAL OF A REQUEST TO DELEGATE TO THE COUNTY JUDGE THE AUTHORITY TO DESIGNATE BY WRITTEN ORDER TO BE FILED IN THE OFFICIAL MINUTES OF COMMISSIONERS COURT ONE DEPUTY CONSTABLE PER PRECINCT AS A WAGE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

UPON SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE FREE TRAINING PROVIDED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, THE DESIGNATED DEPUTY CONSTABLE FROM EACH PRECINCT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT DUTIES IN THEIR RESPECTIVE PRECINCTS.

PER TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE SECTION 621.4015.

LET ME HAVE CONSTABLE VOJVODICH.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CITIZENS, BUT I'M GOING TO JUST ALLOW YOU TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND THEN I BELIEVE THIS IS COMMISSIONER MOODY.

A MOTION. SO, CONSTABLE.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS COUNTY STAFF.

ALSO, A PRESENT WILL BE CONSTABLES FROM EACH OF THE PRECINCTS ON THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT, WEIGHT CONTROL OR MEASURES IS A PROGRAM THAT THE CONSTABLES LOOKED AT TO ADDRESS THE COUNTYWIDE ISSUE OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLE TRAFFIC, SPECIFICALLY THE OVERWEIGHT ISSUE.

OVERWEIGHT IS 18 WHEELERS THAT ARE OPERATING IN THE AREA.

THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF 80,000, IF YOU HAVEN'T KNOWN THAT BEFORE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE CAN COME THROUGH WITH, WITH A MAXIMUM OF 20,000 POUNDS PER AXLE.

THE IMPLICATION IS THAT IS, IF YOU COME IN WITH A HEAVIER WEIGHT THAN THAT ON MOST ROADWAYS, FREEWAYS, YOU CAN CAUSE AND CREATE DAMAGE TO THE ROADWAY BY HAVING THE OVERWEIGHT VEHICLE.

IF YOU SEE THE RUTTING OF SECONDARY ROADS OR ROADS CROSSING HIGHWAYS, THAT'S BECAUSE OF AN OVERWEIGHT VEHICLE.

IT'S ALSO A FACTOR IN CRASHES AND CRASH REPORTS.

A FACTOR IN SPEEDING, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, IT TAKES LONGER FOR A HEAVILY LADEN VEHICLE TO COME DOWN TO A SLOW OR TO A STOP.

SAN ANTONIO IS A CROSSROADS.

WE ARE THE LARGEST METRO AREA CLOSEST TO THE BORDER.

EL PASO IS SECOND TO US AS FAR AS LOCATION, BUT WE ARE A CROSSROADS WITH I-35 281 NORTH I-10 FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE TRAFFIC

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ENTERING FROM BOTH INTERNATIONAL NATIONAL TRAFFIC AS WELL AS STATEWIDE TRAFFIC.

ONCE YOU GET TO SAN ANTONIO, A LOT OF THIS TRAFFIC WILL DIVERT TO OTHER ROADWAYS, INCLUDING OUR LOOPS.

LOOP 16 044 TEN 151 AND A LOT OF THE AREAS IN THE SOUTHERN PRECINCTS IN PRECINCT ONE AND FOUR WE'VE LOOKED AT ADDRESSING THAT WITH ONE OFFICER IN EACH PRECINCT THAT WOULD BE TRAINED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AUTHORIZED TO USE AN APPROVED TYPE OF SCALE THAT IS USED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POSITION AND IT'S BEEN TESTED BY DPS FOR ACCURACY SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY WRITE AND ENFORCE THE VEHICLE WEIGHT LAWS COMING THROUGH EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE PRECINCTS.

EACH PRECINCT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING OF IT AND THE REQUEST FOR IT, AND IT'S A COMMON REQUEST FOR EACH OF THE PRECINCTS.

JUST AS A LITTLE NOTATION WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC STATS IN SAN ANTONIO, THE CLOSEST STATISTIC WE CAN FIND IS ABOUT FOUR YEARS OLD.

AND IT TALKS ABOUT VEHICLE, COMMERCIAL VEHICLE MILEAGE, TRAFFIC ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND IN SAN ANTONIO THAT'S ABOUT 60 MILLION MILES.

IT'S BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN ABOUT HALF OF THAT ON FREEWAYS ABOUT 20 MILLION MILES ON AN AVERAGE DAILY OPERATION FOR ARTERIAL ROADWAYS IN OTHER AREAS. AND THEN OUR LOCAL ROADWAYS FOR DELIVERIES, YOU SEE 18 WHEELERS.

AND THAT'S ALSO A FACTOR.

SO OUR WEIGHT LOADED BRIDGES THAT WERE WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY COUNCILS OR COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

AND I CAN TELL, WERE ANY OF THE OTHER CONSTABLES GOING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, OR SHOULD I GO AHEAD AND I'LL INVITE THE OTHER CONSTABLES TO COME UP? WHY DON'T YOU ALL ALL PLEASE STAND TOGETHER SINCE THIS ISSUE INVOLVES ALL OF YOU.

HELLO. HI.

MR. BROWN, WOULD YOU.

WOULD ADDRESS THE COURT ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHEDDING LIGHT ON THIS.

THIS THIS POSITION THAT I'VE HAD SINCE BLUNT'S CANDIDACY.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE, SINCE COVID, TO TRULY SHOW WHAT REVENUE FACTOR PLAYS INTO TRUCK ENFORCEMENT, BUT IT'S HUGE.

ANY CITATION CAN AVERAGE BETWEEN $5000 TO $15,000 PER STOP.

SO IT'S A GOOD REVENUE FUNDING FOR OUR PRECINCTS TO SUBSTANTIATE OUR EXISTENCE.

AND I WOULD BE FOOLISH TO GET UP HERE AND TELL YOU EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS ABOUT TRUCK ENFORCEMENT.

BUT I DID HIRE A ROCK STAR OUT OF ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, AND HE'S HERE TO GIVE YOU THE STATS.

HIS NAME IS DEPUTY HALL.

DEPUTY. YOUR HONOR.

COMMISSIONERS, I'M DEPUTY HALL.

I WORK FOR MISS KATHERINE BROWN, OUR CONSTABLE.

WHEN I STARTED HERE, I STARTED UNDER THE PRETEXT OF TAKING OVER THE TRUCK ENFORCEMENT POSITION.

WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS DOING IT.

I WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE PROFICIENT IN IT AND ENDED UP JUST BEING HERE WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE OVERWEIGHT AND THAT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

IT'S ASTOUNDING.

AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ONE OF US.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR THE CITY.

EVERYBODY ELSE IS WORKING ON FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON DOING THE INSPECTIONS OF THE TRUCKS, GETTING THEM, YOU KNOW, THEIR STICKERS, PUTTING THEM OUT OF SERVICE AND WHATNOT. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY DOING WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT EXCEPT FOR ME.

I'M IT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND I STAY PRETTY BUSY.

LIKE CONSTABLE BROWN SAID, IT IS A HUGE REVENUE SERVICE, SO THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE.

BUT EVEN AT THAT, MY JOB IS NOT TO MAKE THE MONEY.

MY JOB IS TO TRY TO GET THEM IN COMPLIANCE.

SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE SITUATIONS THAT I RUN INTO WHERE EVEN IF THERE IS MORE MONEY TO BE MADE, WE TRY TO GET THEM IN COMPLIANCE AND BACK ON THE ROAD AND BACK WORKING BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A JOB TO DO.

MOST OF THE TRUCKS WE'RE STOPPING ARE EITHER COMING FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR PLANNINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT, OR COMING FROM THE HIGHWAY SERVICES LIKE I-10 AND I-35 THAT ARE BEING BUILT. IT'S SOMETHING I THINK EACH PRECINCT COULD BENEFIT FROM, BECAUSE WE ALL SUFFER THE SAME ISSUES OF HAVING TRUCKS THAT ARE RUNNING OVERWEIGHT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST THE RUTS IN THE ROAD A LOT OF TIMES.

I ACTUALLY RAN INTO ONE THE OTHER DAY.

THEY BREAK AXLES ON THE ROAD.

SO, LIKE THE CONSTABLE WAS SAYING, WE RUN INTO THIS BOAT WHERE THEY'RE RUNNING SUPER HEAVY ON ONE AXLE, THEY BREAK AN AXLE AND THEN THAT DROPS AND HITS THE CAR BEHIND HIM.

BECAUSE THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT AND BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO STOP THEM.

AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING IT.

THEY'RE WORKING ON FEDERAL REGULATIONS.

SAPD IS WORKING ON FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SO THAT'S NOT THEIR PRIORITY.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. WE'RE WORKING SPECIFICALLY FOR WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT AND LICENSING AND EVERYTHING STATESIDE.

THANK YOU, CONSTABLE.

MR. VASQUEZ. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS.

SO WHAT I WANT TO ADD TO THAT, WHEN I WAS ON PATROL, I WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE 11 YEARS I WAS ON EAST PATROL.

SO I WAS I USED TO BE DOWN 37 SOUTH, AND THEY HAD TWO PATROLMEN ASSIGNED TO TRAFFIC FOR THE

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COMMERCIAL, AND THEY WERE A NON STOP.

SO CAN WE USE ONE? ABSOLUTELY. DO WE NEED THE TRAINING? ABSOLUTELY. SO YEAH, I'M ABSOLUTELY ON BOARD FOR ANY ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THIS.

WE ARE ON BOARD.

SO YES ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU CONSTABLE. CONSTABLE.

OH, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THE SAFETY ISSUE ON HAVING OFFICERS OUT ON THE HIGHWAYS.

I JUST MADE A TRIP TO FORT WORTH AND NOT ONE DPS OFFICER DID I SEE GOING AND COMING.

MOST OF THE THOROUGHFARES, THE BIG TRUCKS ARE COMING IN AT PARTICULAR TIMES, AND AND THERE'S NO VISIBILITY OF POLICE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR IN THE INNER BOUNDS OF THE SAN ANTONIO.

AND IT'S GETTING VERY DANGEROUS.

SO AND ALSO, JUST YESTERDAY, I WAS CALLED BY A PROPERTY OWNER HAVING THEIR FENCE CUT AND TRACTOR TRAILERS BEING BROUGHT IN ON HIS PROPERTY.

AND I SUSPECT THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRANSPORTING PEOPLE IN THOSE TRAILERS AND STUFF.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME UP THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE SURPRISED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT I'M HERE TO SUPPORT ALL, ALL THE OTHER THREE COUNCILS AND MYSELF.

I THINK WE CAN DO A VERY GOOD JOB.

I THINK IT WOULD BE ENLIGHTENING TO SEE OFFICERS OUT IN THE ON THE ROADWAY.

I THINK ALSO, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

I ALWAYS TELL MY OFFICERS, IF YOU SEE A TRAFFIC OFFICER OF ANY KIND, DON'T INTERFERE.

JUST STAND BY THE OFFICER.

IF HE NEEDS YOU, HE HE WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING.

HE'LL JUST LET YOU STAND BY.

IF HE DOESN'T NEED YOU, HE PROBABLY WAVE YOU ON.

SO WE'RE NOT ENOUGH OFFICERS OUT IN THE ROAD.

AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ME AND ALL MY STAFF AND ALL THE STAFFS OF THE CONSTABLES.

BUT I THINK VISIBILITY WOULD BE VERY, VERY GOOD FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

AND ASSISTING EACH OTHER WILL BE VERY GOOD IN BEXAR COUNTY.

SO WE'RE WE'RE HERE ALSO TO HELP THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, ANY OFFICER THAT'S OUT IN THE STREET, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE MORE OFFICERS OUT THERE AND BE VISUAL AND ALL THAT.

BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND AND CONSIDERATION.

WE REALLY NEED THIS, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

WELL, JUDGE. THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL FOUR CONSTABLES FOR FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND FOR, FOR SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK MARK VOJVODICH FOR, FOR CONTINUING TO TO HELP PUSH THIS ITEM FORWARD.

I THINK WE BROUGHT UP A COUPLE KEY POINTS HERE THAT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

A SAFETY ISSUE FOR FOR THESE TRUCKS, IF THEY'RE OUT THERE ON THE ROADS AND OVERLOADED.

INCREASING STOPPING DISTANCE POTENTIAL FOR FOR OTHER TRAFFIC INCIDENTS TO OCCUR.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT PROTECTING COUNTY PROPERTY, RIGHT.

IF THESE ROADS ARE NOT BUILT TO TO SUSTAIN MORE THAN THAT 80,000 POUNDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION.

IT'S ABOUT ENFORCING THE LAW AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR COUNTY PROPERTY OR STATE PROPERTY, OUR ROADWAYS ARE PROTECTED.

AND I THINK THAT THIS TO ME MAKES, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IN TERMS OF AN ADD ON RESPONSIBILITY.

FOR OUR CONSTABLES.

THE SHERIFF OBVIOUSLY HAS HAS A LOT OF YOU KNOW, THINGS ON HIS PLATE.

A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.

YOU KNOW IN OUR COMMUNITY, THIS IS A A SEEMS LIKE IT IS A GOOD FIT WITH EACH OF OUR CONSTABLES TO HELP SUPPORT THE ENFORCEMENT ON WEIGHT CONTROL ON OUR ROADWAYS.

AND I, YOU KNOW, FULLY SUPPORT IT.

I THINK IT'S IT'S NEEDED AND AND HAS A LOT OF BENEFITS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTY.

AND IT ALSO STANDARDIZES THE PROCESS.

RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY, EVERYONE JUST HEARD THAT PRECINCT FOUR IS DOING THIS TODAY.

THEY'RE DOING IT WELL.

IT'S IT'S EFFECTIVE.

AND THERE'S NO REASON THAT THE OTHER THREE PRECINCTS SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO TO APPROVE HAVING ONE INDIVIDUAL CERTIFIED WITHIN EACH ONE OF OUR PRECINCTS

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GOING FORWARD AS WEIGHT CONTROL OFFICERS.

THAT, THAT ONCE THEY'VE COMPLETED THE TRAINING AND THEY'VE BEEN SIGNED OFF BY THIS COURT.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. CONSTABLE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I KIND OF WANT TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER HOW I GUESS FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, HOW THIS LOOKS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO EACH EACH CONSTABLE OFFICE WILL HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS DESIGNATED AS A I GUESS IT'S WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT.

OFFICER. THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH CERTAIN TRAINING.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

THERE'S ABOUT THREE WEEKS OF SPECIALIZED TRAINING FOR WHO ADMINISTERS THAT TRAINING.

AND TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

OKAY. AND IS IT A ONE TIME TRAINING OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE EVERY YEAR OR EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS? THERE'S CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR IT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE INITIAL TRAINING, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH AND DO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SUPERVISED INSPECTIONS WITH A SENIOR INSPECTOR, SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN DOING IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD BE PROVIDING SUPPORT AMONGST OURSELVES TO WE'RE NOT IN A VACUUM.

CONSTABLES WORK WITH EACH OTHER.

WE SHARE TRAINING MATERIALS AS WELL AS SAFETY.

WE WOULD ALSO HAVE WE HAVE A TRAINING COMPONENT IN THERE AS WELL THAT WE DON'T WANT TO.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE A SURPRISE TO THE LOCAL TRUCKING COMMUNITY.

WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM IN ADVANCE.

MOST OF THESE TRUCKING COMPANIES ARE LARGE FIRMS, NOT INDEPENDENT OPERATORS, BUT WE WOULD REACH OUT TO EACH ONE OF THEM, LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'LL BE DOING.

THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT, AND PROVIDE THEM THAT INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN COMPLY WITH THE MOTOR VEHICLE LAWS.

OKAY. AND WHAT WHAT IS THE THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S REQUIRED.

WHAT'S THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS REQUIRED TO TO ENFORCE THIS? WELL, BASICALLY, I COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN, YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS FROM YOUR OFFICER SCALES.

AND SO THE TRAINING THAT'S GOING TO BE ASSESSED IS A ONE TIME TRAINING.

SO IT'S A ONE TIME INVESTMENT.

AND AT THAT POINT WE KIND OF.

HOW CAN I SAY IT? DO ON THE JOB TRAINING WITH OTHER ENTITIES IS WHAT WE WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH HALLS SO THAT WE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, STAYED ABREAST OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND THE INITIAL TRAINING GETS THEM KIND OF CERTIFIED.

THAT IS CORRECT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT.

AND THEN CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT, WHAT'S REQUIRED? WHAT ARE YOU USING NOW AND WHAT WILL THE OTHER CONSTABLE OFFICES NEED TO ENFORCE? ABSOLUTELY. THERE WILL BE A BUDGET THAT HAS TO GO WITH THIS POSITION.

I'LL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND HALL HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIND MORE UP TO DATE SCALES FOR US BECAUSE OUR STUFF WAS OUTDATED.

SO HALL, IF YOU COULD JUST LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU HAD COME UP WITH.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION PRETTY SIMPLY, I NEED A TRUCK, SOMETHING TO TRANSPORT, SCALES AND SCALES, A MEASUREMENT WHEEL, A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE THINGS JUST TO STOP THE TRUCK FROM ROLLING BACK ON ME WHILE I'M UNDER IT AND PUTTING THE SCALES IN.

AND SOMETHING TO MEASURE HEIGHT FOR WHEN IT COMES TO, AGAIN, STATE LAW.

BUT REALLY IT'S A TRUCK, A BOX AND SOME SCALES, OKAY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE ALREADY UTILIZING IN IN PRECINCT FOUR.

YES. IS THAT RIGHT. SO WE HAVE EQUIPMENT.

IT'S 12 YEARS OLD OKAY.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GETTING THEM CALIBRATED, WE ARE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY STANDARDIZED USING WHATEVER IS THE NEWEST RIGHT NOW.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH VENDORS TO GET THAT DONE.

OKAY. AND I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN WE FIRST WERE PRESENTED THIS IDEA, I'LL BE HONEST, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS YOU KNOW, A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M TRUSTING THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO KEEP YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

DO THE RIGHT THING PROTECT OUR THOROUGHFARES.

BUT YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT BUDGETED.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED SOME UPGRADES TO YOUR EQUIPMENT, AND THEN EACH OF THE OTHER THREE PRECINCTS WILL NEED EQUIPMENT AS WELL.

SO I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE THAT BUDGETED.

DAVID, IS THAT RIGHT? NO. IN FACT, WHEN THE SIGHTING CAME FORWARD, WE WERE TOLD THERE WOULD BE NO FISCAL IMPACT.

THAT THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, TOO.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH THIS IS GOING TO COST US.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS ROUGHLY, BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO NOTE TODAY.

YEAH. OUR COUNTY MANAGER IS CORRECT.

WHEN WE CAME FORWARD, WE DO WANT TO HAVE THE TRAINING BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A LARGE LAG TIME BETWEEN THE TIME WE CAN GO OUT, WE GET THEIR AUTHORIZATION, DO THE TRAINING.

THE TRAINING IS AT NO COST TO US OTHER THAN SALARIES.

SO OUR MAIN PURPOSE IS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT TRAINING DONE NOW.

AND WE HAVE PLACED IN OUR REGULAR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR ANY KIND OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED LATER ON DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS ON EACH OF THESE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT, AND WE OFFSET IT, OR WE HAVE INFORMATION ON WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL REVENUE.

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BUT INITIALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME BECAUSE IT TAKES US LITERALLY IF WE HAVE TO RECRUIT AN OFFICER AND SEND THEM FOR TRAINING, AND THEN IT'S NOT EVERY OFFICER WHO CAN COMPLETE THIS TRAINING.

IT'S FAIRLY INTENSIVE.

IT HAS A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS IN MATH AND INTERPRETATION.

SO BY THE TIME WE GET SOMEBODY BACK OUT OF THAT, IT MIGHT BE FOUR WEEKS, SIX WEEKS.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET THEM OUT WHERE THEY'RE WORKING WITH A ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ALREADY TO GET THEIR 30 INSPECTIONS, I BELIEVE IT'S 30 BEFORE WE'RE READY TO ACTUALLY EVEN GO OUT ON OUR OWN WITH EQUIPMENT.

WE HAVE MONTHS OF LEAD TIME.

SO THAT'S OUR PURPOSE TODAY IS TRYING TO GET THE AUTHORIZATION FROM COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE TRAINING.

AND THEN WITH OUR REGULAR BUDGET PROPOSALS, WE WOULD OUTLINE ANY KIND OF EQUIPMENT OR EXPENDITURES.

AND SO THAT IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED FROM EACH OF THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

IS THAT CORRECT? HAVE THE AMOUNTS IF YOU WANT THEM.

YEAH. IF YOU HAVE THE AMOUNTS THAT'D BE GREAT.

SO IT'S ABOUT $95,000 TOTAL FOR THE TRUCK, THE CAGE, THE SCALES, EVERYTHING THAT ENCOMPASSES A TRUCK ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

HOWEVER, THE CITATIONS WILL PAY FOR THAT.

AND PROBABLY SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.

YEAH, I GET THAT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT $400,000 TOTAL.

THAT IS CORRECT FOR THE COUNTY.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND SO THAT'LL BE PART OF I GUESS YOUR YOUR SUBMITTAL CONSTABLE TO THE CONSTABLE VASQUEZ, YOU GUYS ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL WHEN YOU ASK FOR.

OKAY, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE THE ACTUAL OFFICER, LIKE OFFICER HAUL DO THEY GET SUPPLEMENTAL PAY FOR THIS KIND OF CERTIFICATION? WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.

WE'RE BARELY WORKING INTO GETTING THE SUPERVISORY PAY, SO THAT WILL PROBABLY BE SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD.

OKAY. OKAY, SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT TYPICALLY WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT ADDS RESPONSIBILITIES THEN YOU HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT COMES WITH IT.

I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE RESPONSIBILITY WE HAVE TO, AS FIDUCIARIES, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY WISELY.

SO OKAY, SO, SO ABOUT 400,000, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED NEW EQUIPMENT IN PRECINCT FOUR, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO ABOUT 400,000.

AND THEN THE OTHER CONSTABLES.

HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED A PERSON ALREADY TO DO THIS IN YOUR RESPECTIVE OFFICES? OKAY, CONSTABLE VASQUEZ.

SO? SO PROBABLY NOT.

I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF ANYBODY JUST YET, BUT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE QUALIFIED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING BACK, I'M LISTENING TO YOU, EVERYONE TALKING, AND I'M THINKING OF YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE USED TO DO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A PICK UP AND THEY WOULD LOOK FOR AN OPEN AREA, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY DO IT.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY SAPD DOES IT.

AND IT'S IT'S SCALES THAT THEY BRING OUT OF THEIR TRUCK.

AND, AND THEY WEIGH THESE TRUCKS AND THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE CODES AND STUFF.

THEY'RE CHECKING THEIR BOOKS.

SO BUT YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED IN IT.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS OFFICER THAT WE DO CHOOSE IS TRAINED CORRECTLY.

SO AND I MEAN IN OUR INVENTORY WE ALREADY HAVE A PICKUP THAT'S ORDERED AND WE'RE WAITING.

YOU KNOW WE'RE JUST WAITING BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE VEHICLES ARE BACKLOGGED.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE A TRUCK COMING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO ORDER ONE.

WE'RE JUST WAITING ON IT.

YEAH. AND LOOK, I'M NOT OBJECTING TO PEOPLE GETTING THE TRAINING.

I JUST YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET SOMETHING FROM BUDGET, I CAN'T COMMIT TODAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN SUPPORT IN OUR BUDGET, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE OTHER REQUESTS THAT COME IN.

I'M. I'M CERTAIN, FROM YOUR OFFICES.

SO WE'LL NEED YOU TO PRIORITIZE THAT FOR US IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE MOST PRESSING NEEDS.

BUT AGAIN, I CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF OF YOU ALL GETTING SOMEBODY TRAINED.

BUT THAT OTHER DISCUSSION IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE GET TO THE BUDGET.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR YOUR INDIVIDUAL OFFICES, BUT I'M CERTAIN YOU'VE GOT OTHER BUDGET REQUESTS THAT ARE FORTHCOMING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THOSE AS WELL. CONSTABLE, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? OF COURSE, IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE COURTS TO DEAL WITH, SO.

BUT HERE IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SOMETIMES SETS UP UNDER THE BRIDGE ON ZARZAMORA AND 35.

THERE'S MUCH TRAFFIC COMING, MORE AND MORE COMING ON 35 AND ON 37 GOING NORTH.

SO WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME.

AND 37 AFFECTS NOT ONLY PRECINCT ONE BUT ALSO PRECINCT FOUR AND ALSO 35.

THEY CAN DIVERT AND GO ANOTHER ROUTE.

BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT THE TRAFFIC IS INCREASING.

MORE AND MORE TRUCKS ARE COMING IN.

AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE TRUCK.

SO THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION FROM THESE TRUCKING COMPANIES, THEY NEED TO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT COULD BE DONE TO PUT

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DOWN WHAT THEY'RE TRANSPORTING AT THE TIME, BUT A LOT OF THESE TRUCKS ARE MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY AND THE MAJORITY ON 35 THROUGH EXPERIENCE MORE AND MORE.

THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FAST LANE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

SOMETIMES THREE AND FOUR TRUCKS ARE ON THE FAST LANE, AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

AND SOMETIMES THEY BOTTLENECK THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LANES ON 35 COMING IN.

RIGHT. SO SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

AND I THINK A START OF THIS KIND IS GOOD.

SO LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE OTHER.

I THINK SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT SOME OF THIS IS I GUESS COMMERCIAL VEHICLES GOING THROUGH YOU KNOW, NON-HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW, NON THOROUGHFARES, RIGHT? YES. CONNECTOR STREETS.

WOULD YOU NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP THAT INDIVIDUAL IF THERE WAS SIMPLY A NO NO TRUCKS SIGN? NO. DOESN'T THAT GIVE YOU SOME AUTHORITY TO STOP THEM REGARDLESS OF THEIR WEIGHT? IT'S CALLED PROBABLE CAUSE.

YOU NEED TO HAVE A REASON WHY.

SO AS A COUNTY, WE CAN ONLY ENFORCE IT IF THEY'RE CERTIFIED.

I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE, SIR.

I'M A LITTLE TALLER. YEAH. IT'S OKAY.

SO AS A COUNTY, WE CAN ONLY ENFORCE IT IF THEY'RE CERTIFIED.

CITY OFFICERS HAVE CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS THAT THEY CAN UPHOLD.

SOME COUNTY OFFICERS CAN WRITE THE DRIVER FOR SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED DISREGARDING A TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE.

WE TRY TO AVOID DOING THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES THE DRIVERS POINTS.

THEY ONLY GET THREE POINTS.

THEY HAVE TO STOP WORKING AND A THREE YEAR PERIOD.

SO I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTY WHO CAN WRITE THEM FOR THOSE.

WE CALL THEM LOAD ZONE ROADS, WHERE IT SAYS, HEY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MAXIMUM WEIGHT OR NO TRUCKS.

IN GENERAL, I'M THE ONLY ONE.

OKAY, OKAY, SO THE SIGNAGE ISN'T ENOUGH FOR US.

THE SIGNAGE DOESN'T DOESN'T MATTER.

IT DOES. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT AS ENFORCED OR ENFORCEABLE AS WE WOULD HOPE.

OKAY, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.

YES, DAVID BUDGET IS LETTING ME KNOW THAT ALL FOUR CONSTABLE OFFICES IN THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS HAVE REQUESTED A NEW POSITION TO DO THIS. WEIGHT ENFORCEMENT.

OKAY. ARE YOU GOING SOMEWHERE? AM I JUST KIDDING? OH, MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO GET A PROMOTION THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

SO OKAY, I'LL BE HERE.

SO. SO THEY PUT IN FOR THE FOUR POSITIONS, BUT NOT THE EQUIPMENT YET.

SOME OF THEM HAVE REQUESTED THE EQUIPMENT.

I THINK ONE OFFICE HAS NOT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

YEAH. SO I DID SPEAK WITH MY CONSTABLE AND SAL AS WELL.

AND SO YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL THAT WE NEED IN PRECINCT ONE.

AND SPEAKING TO CONSTABLE TEJADA, HE HAD A REALLY GOOD IDEA OR TALKED ABOUT.

LET'S LOOK AT THE RESULTS IN A YEAR AND HAVE AN EVALUATION.

SO IF YOU GUYS CAN COME BACK IN A YEAR MY CONSTABLE AND I WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER, SO I'M SURE WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

BUT IF YOU GUYS CAN COME BACK IN A YEAR TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKED, WHAT KIND OF REVENUE HAS COME IN AND OUT, HOW IT'S WORKED FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL CONSTABLE PRECINCTS? THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, DID YOU WANT TO? ADD ANYTHING ELSE.

NO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE'VE COVERED A LOT HERE.

OBVIOUSLY WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE FLESHING OUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU KNOW WE CAN INCLUDE GOING FORWARD IN THE BUDGET.

BUT I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.

RIGHT? AND WE NEED TO GET WE NEED TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS AND GET THEM TRAINED IF WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT ON TAKING THIS FIRST STEP IN SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS, IS VALUABLE FOR THE COUNTY AND NEEDED.

AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM OUR COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT. LET ME KIND OF PUT A WRAP ON THIS.

CONSTABLE'S FIRST. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL.

I APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL ALL CAME AS A GROUP TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THIS ISSUE AND BRINGING IT FORWARD.

IT HAS REQUIRED A LOT OF CONVERSATION.

AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BASICALLY QUESTIONS AND AND OTHER ISSUES.

OBVIOUSLY, TODAY THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS AND OTHER ISSUES, ESPECIALLY BUDGETARY.

SO I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER MOODY.

I SUPPORT THE CONSTABLE'S BECAUSE OF THEIR ABILITY TO REALLY BE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CLOSEST TO THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK.

Y'ALL ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW YOUR STREETS, YOU KNOW YOUR HIGHWAYS, YOU KNOW WHO'S WHAT AND WHERE.

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AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SUPPORT THE CONSTABLE'S IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, I THINK, AS COMMISSIONERS PUT IT, AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ POINTED OUT, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.

I INTEND TO SIGN AN ORDER AS SOON AS THE NAMES OF THE CERTIFIED OFFICERS ARE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, I INTEND TO SIGN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

BUT CONSTABLES, WE WILL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT ALWAYS A FUN THING TO DO, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AND HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHT TO AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

BRING ME THAT ORDER.

GET THOSE OFFICERS CERTIFIED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

MR.. ALL RIGHT. LET US GO BACK TO TIME.

CERTAIN. AND COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

HOW WAS THE IT WAS GREAT.

GOOD. I THEY WEREN'T DONE YET BUT I RUSHED OVER.

LET US TAKE UP ITEM TWO PRESENTATION OF A STATUS UPDATE FROM ALAMO TRUST, THE DETAILING PROGRESS

[5.b. 10:30 a.m. - Presentation of a status update from Alamo Trust, Inc. detailing progress on key goals and expenditures for the creation of the Alamo Visitor Center and Museum.]

ON KEY GOALS AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE CREATION OF THE ALAMO VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.

MR. THOMAS GUEVARA.

THANK YOU, JUDGE. FOR THE RECORD, THOMAS GUEVARA, OFFICE OF THE COUNTY MANAGER.

WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY FROM THE ALAMO TRUST.

JUST A BRIEF RECAP.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF COURT MEMBERS WHO WERE NOT HERE AT THE TIME.

BUT IN JULY OF 2021, COMMISSIONERS COURT DID APPROVE A MATCHING GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE ALAMO TRUST IN THE AMOUNT OF $5 MILLION PER YEAR FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, IN A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 25 MILLION FOR THE CREATION OF THE ALAMO VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.

TODAY WE HAVE BOTH KATE ROGERS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND HOPE ANDRADE PART OF THE THE THE LEADERSHIP TEAM THERE TO PRESENT A STATUS UPDATE DETAILING PROGRESS ON KEY GOALS AND EXPENDITURES FOR OUR AGREEMENT.

SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE KATE AND HOPE.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING.

I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING BOTH COMMISSIONER MOODY AND COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES AND THEIR STAFF MEMBERS FOR THEIR SERVICE ON OUR MUSEUM PLANNING COMMITTEE, WHICH IS HELPING US TO DEVELOP THE NARRATIVE AND THE INTERPRETIVE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY AND THE COURT MORE BROADLY, BECAUSE WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE IN THE PLACE WE ARE TODAY.

READY TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON THE VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM THIS FALL, WHICH IS PRETTY REMARKABLE WITH AN OPENING SCHEDULED FOR 2027.

SO WE'RE GRATEFUL AND WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY AND PLEASED TO HAVE THE TIME WITH YOU THIS MORNING.

SO I'M GOING TO START WITH JUST A HISTORIC WALKTHROUGH OF THE OF THE SITE WHERE THE PROPOSED VISITOR CENTER MUSEUM.

THESE SLIDES WERE PRESENTED BY GENSLER, OUR ARCHITECT OF RECORD, ON THE PROJECT.

SO THIS GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE MISSION ERA.

AND IN THE DOTS IN RED, YOU SEE WHERE THE PROPOSED VISITOR CENTER MUSEUM WOULD HAVE RESIDED DURING THAT TIME.

AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT BECAUSE IT SHOWS HOW THE HISTORIC WALLS WOULD HAVE RUN RIGHT THROUGH THOSE STRUCTURES.

SO AS PART OF THE INTERPRETATION ON THE FIRST FLOOR, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL BE SHOWING VISITORS WHERE THE ORIGINAL WALLS OF THE MISSION WOULD HAVE BEEN LOCATED.

THIS IS A SLIGHTLY LATER PHOTO, OBVIOUSLY MORE TOWARDS THE 20TH CENTURY.

AND THEN WE GET INTO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.

WE'RE, WE'RE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO DO AN ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THESE THREE BUILDINGS.

OUR INTENT IS TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THE HISTORIC FABRIC AS POSSIBLE.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE FACADES AS WELL AS THE LIMESTONE WALLS WITHIN THE CROCKETT BUILDING IN PARTICULAR, AND AS MUCH OF THE THE WINDOW MATERIAL, THE ORIGINAL TILE MATERIAL THAT IS STILL LOCATED IN THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING THAT REMAINS TO THIS DAY.

BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW HOW THESE STRUCTURES HAVE CHANGED AND EVOLVED OVER TIME.

HERE, WHAT YOU SEE IS A CURRENT RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED VISITOR CENTER MUSEUM.

IT'S A TOTAL OF 160,000FT², WITH EIGHT GALLERIES AND AN EVENT CENTER UP ON TOP.

AND WE'RE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WE DID RECEIVE OFFICIAL APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN AS PLANNED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

HERE YOU SEE A RENDERING OF THAT FIRST FLOOR.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE MUSEUM, JUST LIKE THE CHURCH, THE LONG BARRACK, THE OUTDOOR EXHIBITS ON THE GROUNDS WILL ALWAYS REMAIN FREE TO THE PUBLIC, SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY TO SEE AND DO WITHOUT NEEDING TO PURCHASE A TICKET TO ENTER THE VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.

WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS RENDERING IS ALSO A DEPICTION OF HOW THE WEST WALL WILL BE SHOWN IN THE FLOOR, AND SOME OF THE VIGNETTES WHERE YOU'LL SEE WILL BE

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WILL BE PLACED IN THIS SAME AREA, SO GUESTS WILL ENJOY THOSE AS WELL FOR FREE.

AT THE BACK OF THE FIRST FLOOR IS RETAIL AND FOOD SERVICE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD DEPICTION THAT SHOWS YOU OUR INTENT AGAIN, TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC LIMESTONE WALLS IN THE CROCKETT BUILDING IN PARTICULAR.

THIS IS A DEPICTION OF THE CAFE.

IT'S A NEW OPPORTUNITY.

IT WILL SIT NEXT TO THE RETAIL.

THE RETAIL WILL BE MOVED FROM ITS CURRENT LOCATION IN THE GIFT SHOP WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE CHURCH AND OVER TO THE VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.

WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COURT THAT IT IS OUR INTENT AND WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO ALL OF OUR PUBLIC FUNDERS, INCLUDING YOU ALL, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, THAT ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, WE WILL BE SELF-SUSTAINING FROM AN OPERATIONS STANDPOINT, SO WE WON'T COME BACK AND ASK FOR OPERATIONAL DOLLARS TO KEEP THE PROJECT GOING.

THIS IS AN EXTERIOR VIEW OF THAT CAFE.

SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS THE HYATT PARKING GARAGE WITH SOME BEAUTIFICATION TO THE STRUCTURE.

AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE HISTORIC CROCKETT BUILDING.

SO THAT IS ACTUALLY THE VISITOR CENTER AND MUSEUM.

THAT'S THE AREA WE CALL THE UPPER PASEO.

ON THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IS ONE OF MANY EVENT RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES.

SO WE'VE CREATED THESE AS WELL AS A STREAM OF REVENUE.

THIS IS A BOARDROOM THAT WILL BE OVERLOOKING THE CHURCH AND THE GROUNDS.

IT HAS ITS OWN TERRACE AND FOOD SERVICE OPPORTUNITY.

AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THIS AS A UNIQUE VENUE FOR BOTH CONVENTIONEERS AND MEETINGS COMING TO SAN ANTONIO FROM OUT OF TOWN, BUT ALSO FOR OUR LOCAL PARTNERS AS WELL.

UP ON THE FIFTH FLOOR IS WHERE WE HAVE THE LARGEST OF THE EVENT SPACES.

THIS THIS VENUE WILL HOLD UP TO 700 FOR A SEATED DINNER, AND IT HAS TERRACES ON THREE SIDES OVERLOOKING ALL OF DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO.

SO YOU REALLY GET BEAUTIFUL VIEWS IN THE EVENING OF THE CHURCH, THE GARDENS, BUT ALSO HEMISFAIR IN THE DISTANCE, ETC.

SO YOU GET A REALLY NICE DEPICTION OF OUR BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN.

IT DOES HAVE A BAR THAT WILL FUNCTION AS A BAR DURING EVENT TIMES AND WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WHEN IT IS NOT IN USE FOR A PRIVATE RENTAL.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ENTRANCE.

IN THE EVENING. AND HERE YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE FRONT IN SHADOW SOME OF THOSE STATUARY VIGNETTES THAT ARE ARE PROPOSED FOR THE LOBBY SPACE.

THIS IS A NICE RENDERING THAT SHOWS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THAT LOBBY LEVEL, AND AGAIN SHOWS YOU THE CAFE AT THE BACK, THE RETAIL ADJACENT, AND THE LOCATION OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS EXHIBIT. THIS IS A JUST A DIFFERENT DEPICTION OF THE LOBBY SPACE.

IN PARTICULAR. ON THE LEFT ARE VERY ROUGH RENDERING OF THOSE LOBBY VIGNETTES.

THIS THIS THE VIGNETTES I SHOULD MENTION ARE BEING DONE BY STUDIO ICE, WHICH IS A PARTNER OUT OF NEW YORK CITY.

THEY WERE SELECTED BY GALLAGHER AND ASSOCIATES WHO IS OUR PROGRAM MANAGER ON THE PROJECT.

THEY'VE DONE MANY SIMILAR PROJECTS IN PLACES LIKE THE CONSTITUTION CENTER IN WASHINGTON, DC, AND MANY OTHER CULTURAL ATTRACTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THE VIGNETTES ARE DESIGNED TO TELL THE FULL HISTORY OF THE ALAMO OVER ITS MANY ERAS, IF YOU WILL.

SO IT STARTS AT THE BEGINNING, 10,000 YEARS AGO, WITH THE DEPICTION OF INDIGENOUS POPULATION MOVES UP THROUGH THE MISSION ERA, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BATTLE AND UP TO THE. THE FINAL STATUE IS OF CLARA DRISCOLL AND ADINA DE ZAVALA, WHICH YOU SEE PICTURED IN THE CENTER BOTTOM AND TALKS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION ERA.

SO AGAIN, THESE ARE A FREE EXPERIENCE.

IT ALLOWS VISITORS TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE MANY THINGS THAT TRANSPIRED OVER THE ALAMO GROUNDS THROUGHOUT ITS RICH HISTORY.

THE CIVIL RIGHTS EXHIBIT ALSO WILL BE LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEREFORE FREE.

YOU CAN ENTER THIS EXHIBIT FROM THE LOBBY OF THE MUSEUM, BUT YOU CAN ALSO ENTER OFF OF HOUSTON STREET THROUGH THE ORIGINAL ENTRANCE TO THE WOOLWORTH BUILDING, AND WE WILL KEEP THE ORIGINAL TILE THAT'S IN THE GROUND THERE IN THE FLOOR.

YOU CAN STILL SEE WHERE THE LUNCH COUNTER STOOD.

SO IF YOU SEE THE SNAKE LIKE STRUCTURE OF THE EXHIBIT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS IT'LL BE PLACED ACTUALLY IN THE VERY SPOT WHERE THE LUNCH COUNTER ONCE STOOD.

THERE'LL BE BOTH GRAPHIC ELEMENTS AS WELL AS DIGITAL ELEMENTS THAT WILL TELL THE FULL STORY.

AND WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE WHO'S HELPING US TO DETERMINE THE CONTENT FOR THIS GALLERY, MAKING SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHT THE APPROPRIATE LEADERS IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR LEADING THIS PEACEFUL MOVEMENT.

HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, THE FIRST TICKETED EXPERIENCE TAKES PLACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

THIS IS A 4D THEATER.

A PRODUCTION IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT 4D, RIGHT, IT'S AN IMAX EXPERIENCE.

PLUS THE PHYSICAL ELEMENTS OF VIBRATION, SMOKE, EMBERS.

SO YOU REALLY GET A SENSE OF BEING THERE.

THE IDEA IS THAT AGAIN, YOU START AT THE INDIGENOUS PERIOD THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO AND UNDERSTAND THE FULL HISTORY OF THE SITE AND A PRETTY CONDENSED TIME FRAME.

AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE PRODUCTION TEAM HEADED BY DONNA LAWRENCE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF TELLING A WHOLE LOT OF HISTORY AND ROUGHLY 30 MINUTES.

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SO SAY YOU'RE A CONVENTIONEER WHO'S COMING TO SAN ANTONIO, YOU HAVE LIMITED TIME.

YOU COULD COME AND DO THIS EXPERIENCE AND FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOTTEN THE FULL HISTORY OF ALL THAT HAPPENED AT THE ALAMO, AND THIS IS JUST A DEPICTION OF THE SCENE DURING THE BATTLE OF 1836. THE GALLERIES ARE ALSO CHRONOLOGICAL IN NATURE.

THEY START AT THE TOP AND THE VISITORS WILL WORK THEIR WAY DOWN.

AND THAT'S A SEPARATE TICKETED EXPERIENCE.

YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DO THE GALLERIES ALONE, THE GALLERIES AND THE THEATER ONE OR THE OTHER.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE MENTIONED TO SOME OF YOU IS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AN APP THAT WILL HELP VISITORS TO PLAN THEIR JOURNEY BEFORE THEY COME.

SO YOU THINK HISTORICALLY, VISITORS WOULD SPEND ROUGHLY 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR AT THE ALAMO? ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, YOU COULD SPEND A WHOLE DAY SEEING MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND SO WE WANT FOLKS TO YOU KNOW, SORT OF HAVE AN AGENDA, IF YOU WILL.

I'M GOING TO GO TO THE CHURCH AT THIS TIME, THE THEATER AT THIS TIME, PERHAPS A TEMPORARY EXHIBITION IN THE COLLECTION CENTER AT A DIFFERENT TIME.

SO, AGAIN, YOU START IN THE YANAGUANA ERA.

YOU KIND OF SEE A DEPICTION.

THE GALLERIES ARE STILL UNDERWAY IN TERMS OF DESIGN, OBVIOUSLY.

SO WE'RE WE'RE JUST HEADED INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND THEN INTO CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF SELECTING A FABRICATOR, WHICH IS A REALLY EXCITING TIME TO BE ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES GALLERY IN PARTICULAR, IS THAT WE WANT TO CONVEY THE FACT THAT MANY OF OUR INDIGENOUS DESCENDANTS STILL LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY TODAY.

SO THIS IS NOT AN ERA OF HISTORY.

THIS IS A ONGOING HISTORY OF A SPECIFIC POPULATION.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PEOPLE, TO INTERVIEW FOR ORAL HISTORIES SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR THE VOICES.

SO YOU'LL GET TO HEAR SOME OF THE HISTORIC LANGUAGES THAT WERE SPOKEN IN THIS ERA THROUGH THE YANAGUANA PERIOD.

BUT YOU'LL ALSO GET TO HEAR FROM CONTEMPORARY PEOPLE STILL LIVING IN SAN ANTONIO TODAY, AND THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES AND STORIES TO SHARE.

THE MISSION ERA IS THE NEXT GALLERY, SO WE TALK ABOUT THE ARRIVAL OF THE SPANISH IN THE 1500S, MOVE ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THE SECULARIZATION OF MISSION SAN ANTONIO DE VALERO IN 1793.

IN THE MIDDLE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A KEY DIGITAL COMPONENT.

IT'S A WISHING WELL, AND IN IT IS FLOATING OBJECTS AND PEOPLE.

AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THEM AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THEM AND THE ROLE THEY PLAYED DURING THE MISSION ERA.

HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE'LL DO A VERY IN-DEPTH LOOK AT LIFE AT THE MISSION, BOTH FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE SPANISH POPULATION, WHO IN THE FRANCISCAN FRIARS, BUT ALSO FROM THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO WERE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THE MISSIONS, INCLUDING THE ALAMO OR WHAT TODAY IS KNOWN AS THE ALAMO.

THE GROWTH OF SAN ANTONIO WILL LEAD US INTO THE TO THE NEXT GALLERY, WHICH REALLY TALKS ABOUT TEXAS UNDER MEXICAN RULE.

SO THIS REALLY COVERS THE PERIOD FROM 1805 TO 1835.

SO YOU'RE ON THE EVE OF THE BATTLE AT THAT TIME, RIGHT? SO YOU'VE GOT THIS WILL IS THE PLACE THAT WILL COVER A LOT OF CONFLICT, INCLUDING MEXICO'S YOU KNOW, OUR OWN RIGHT FOR FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE FROM SPANISH RULE.

AND THEN THE EVENTS THAT LED UP TO THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO, APPROACHING THE ALAMO IS ACTUALLY A SPACE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE FROM.

OKAY, WE'VE AT THE END OF 1835, WE HAVE THE SIEGE OF BEXAR, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE KEY BATTLES LEADING INTO WHAT HAPPENED IN 1836.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO THE VISITOR WILL EXPERIENCE THE ARRIVAL FROM BOTH PERSPECTIVES, FROM THE MEXICAN ARMY AS WELL AS THE TEXIANS.

AND SO YOU'LL SORT OF FEEL LIKE YOU'RE YOU'RE HEADED TO THE BATTLE AT THAT TIME.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BATTLE GALLERY IS AN IMMERSIVE PROJECTION EXPERIENCE THAT WILL OFFER VISITORS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE TO BE THERE, INSIDE THE WALLS OF THE FORT IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF MARCH THE 6TH, AND THEN AFTERWARD, THERE'LL BE A SEGMENT THAT REALLY HELPS VISITORS TO UNDERSTAND THE BATTLE AGAIN FROM BOTH SIDES, FROM A MILITARY PERSPECTIVE IN PARTICULAR, AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE AFTERMATH AND AFTERWARD, OF COURSE, FOR, FOR MANY YEARS, THE ALAMO WAS SORT OF LEFT IN SHAMBLES UNTIL THE UNITED STATES ARMY TOOK UP OCCUPATION IN 1845, WHICH IS IMPORTANT PART OF OUR HISTORY.

THIS IS WHEN SAN ANTONIO WAS THE SEED OF SAN ANTONIO BECOMING MILITARY CITY, USA.

IT'S THE FIRST PLACE THAT THE UNITED STATES ARMY OCCUPIED IN TEXAS.

IT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT OUTPOST FOR WESTWARD EXPANSION, AND THE CHURCH WAS ALSO DEEPLY MODIFIED DURING THAT TIME.

FIRST TIME THE CHURCH HAD A ROOF, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THAT WILL LEAD US UP INTO THE 20TH CENTURY, WHEN TWO WOMEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, JUST LIKE MANY OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY, STEPPED IN TO SAVE SOME OF OUR MOST PRECIOUS HISTORIC STRUCTURES.

HERE IT WAS ADINA DE ZAVALA AND CLARA DRISCOLL.

SO WE'LL TELL THE STORY OF THE FOUNDING OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS AND ALL THAT THEY DID TO CARE FOR THE ALAMO FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS.

IT'S ALSO THE TIME PERIOD WHEN THE THE TERM THE SHRINE OF TEXAS LIBERTY WAS REALLY COINED.

AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

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AND AND WHERE THAT REALLY CAME FROM.

IT WAS INDICATIVE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN AMERICAN HISTORY IN THAT TIME.

THE FINAL GALLERY IS A BIT MORE WHIMSICAL, BUT THE THE IDEA OF IT BEING A SHRINE SORT OF LEADS INTO THIS, WHICH IS THE IMPACT OF THE ALAMO ON POPULAR CULTURE.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT MANY PEOPLE AROUND TEXAS, AROUND THE US, AROUND THE GLOBE, CAME TO KNOW THE STORY OF THE ALAMO THROUGH A MOVIE WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN EXACTLY HISTORICALLY ACCURATE, BUT IT STILL HOLDS FOND MEMORIES FOR PEOPLE.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC CALL RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT OBJECTS THAT THEY MAY WANT TO SEE ON DISPLAY FILMS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE DEPICTED IN THIS GALLERY.

SO THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

AND PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY SUBMITTING.

TO CLOSE, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE A RECAP.

SO EACH YEAR, AS PART OF OUR GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, WE OFFER DETAIL OF EXPENDITURES OF HOW YOUR DOLLARS WERE EXPENDED.

AND AGAIN, CANNOT SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH BECAUSE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ALLOW US TO SPEND SOME OF THE COUNTY DOLLARS ON PROFESSIONAL FEES, INCLUDING ARCHITECTURE, THE EXHIBIT DESIGN, ETC.

HAS ALLOWED US TO ENTER THIS PHASE WHERE WE CAN NOW ACTIVELY BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE'RE IN THE THIRD YEAR.

AND SO YOU'LL KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN TERMS OF HOW THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE SPENT.

BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

MR.. CLAY-FLORES. YEAH.

I WANT TO THANK YOUR ALAMO STAFF.

I THINK TWO OF YOUR STAFF ARE HERE TODAY, SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE.

SO WHEN WE PASSED THIS IN 2021, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT Y'ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TO THE COURT EVERY YEAR.

BUT IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE COME BACK SINCE WE FIRST PASSED THAT.

SO WHY IS THAT? PER THE GRANT AGREEMENT, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE COME BACK TO THE COURT EVERY YEAR.

IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT WE SUBMIT A REPORT EVERY YEAR, WHICH GOES TO STAFF TO GOES TO THOMAS IN PARTICULAR, WHICH WE DO.

AND THEN YOU ALL RETAIN THE RIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, TO CALL US BACK TO THE COURT AT ANY TIME, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

SO IN SPEAKING TO COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE, TO THOMAS, MY UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WE SPOKE ABOUT THOMAS.

WHERE DID THOMAS GO? OH, THERE HE IS. I WAS LIKE THOMAS, ISN'T IT? NO. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT IT SINCE LAST YEAR.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE DIRECTED YOU ALL TO COME BACK TO THE COURT LAST YEAR AND TO COME THROUGH MY OFFICE, SINCE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TURNOVER IN PRECINCT THREE.

AND THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER. SO, PER THE AGREEMENT, COMMISSIONER.

AND AS IN COURT, AS YOU RECALL, WE DO HAVE TWO COURT LIAISONS.

THAT'S PRECINCT ONE, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES AND PRECINCT THREE.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH.

WE STARTED OFF WITH COMMISSIONER DEBERRY, AND NOW WE'RE COMMISSIONER MOODY AND HIS STAFF HAVE TAKEN UP.

SO I DO RELY ON BOTH THE ALAMO AND TO COORDINATE THROUGH THE TWO LIAISONS.

I WILL SAY WE DO WORK WELL ON OUR EXHIBITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN TERMS OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO TO PAY OFF ON THOSE INVOICES, INCLUDING THE PLAN REPORT.

WE DO TRY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOUR OFFICES IMMEDIATELY AS WELL, WITH AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL AUDITS THAT HAVE COME IN AROUND NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT WE DO HAVE IN THE AGREEMENT, AS KATE MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE AN ITEM THAT DOES ALLOW FOR THEM TO COME IN TO PRESENT THEIR PLAN AND THE REPORT ON THEIR BUDGET. RIGHT. AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

WE DID NOT DO THAT LAST, LAST GO AROUND, COMMISSIONER.

WE ACCEPTED THEIR PLAN, THEIR REPORT AND THEIR FINANCIAL AUDITS.

WE SHARED THAT WITH THE LIAISON, SOME OF THE COURT, AND WE PAY IT OFF ON THAT.

THIS YEAR. WE DID.

IN TERMS AFTER WE DID RECEIVE THAT, WE DID COORDINATE WITH THE COURT AND WE DID RECEIVE A REQUEST TO TO HAVE ALAMO PRESENT, AND WE COORDINATE IT FOR TODAY.

SO IF WE CAN HAVE THAT ANNUAL YOU GUYS COMING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE.

AND I SAY THAT SO THAT THE REST OF THE COURT JUST CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.

BECAUSE FRANKLY, IT'S BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTING WORKING WITH THE ALAMO.

AS YOU KNOW, KATE MANY OF THE VOICES OF PEOPLE OF COLOR, FIRST OF ALL, IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET THEM ON, EVEN THOUGH WE PASSED AN UNANIMOUS AMENDMENT FOR THE 25 MILLION, I HAVE THAT HERE, AND I'M GOING TO READ PART OF IT.

YET IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.

HAD TO CONTINUOUSLY ASK, WHY AREN'T THESE PEOPLE ON YET? AND WHY AREN'T THESE PEOPLE ON YET? WHY AREN'T THESE PEOPLE ON YET? AND THEN FINALLY GETTING PEOPLE ON THERE WHO SHARE A VOICE OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE ALAMO? INDIGENOUS PEOPLE LACKS AND HAVE BEEN MET WITH VERY IT'S BEEN JUST A VERY HOSTILE.

OF COURSE, WE CAN'T GET INTO THE DETAILS HERE BECAUSE WE WERE ALL.

WELL, I GUESS I WAS FORCED TO SIGN WHAT'S IT CALLED? MARCUS? NDA.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD, THERE WOULD BE BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS CAN BE VOCAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THERE AND CANNOT FEEL THAT THEY ARE BEING SHUT DOWN.

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SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO REMIND EVERYONE WHAT THIS COURT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

IT IS NO MYTH.

IT IS HISTORICAL FACT THAT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ELSEWHERE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THERE IS A MOVEMENT TO TRY TO REWRITE. TEXAS HISTORY IN SILENCE.

VOICES. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO FIRST OF ALL, BE A PART OF THE ALAMO.

$25 MILLION IS NO SMALL CHUNK OF CHANGE.

BUT WITH THAT CAME SOMETHING THAT THE COURT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WERE VOICES TO BE HEARD.

AND SO PART OF THAT, THE SECOND PART OF THE AMENDMENT READ AS FOLLOW THAT I READ THE PERPETUATION OF RACIST WORDING, LANGUAGE, SYMBOLS AND TEACHING WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN RELATION TO THE ALAMO MUSEUM.

HISTORICAL FACTS WILL NOT BE AMENDED, BUT INSTEAD EXPLAINED IN THE RELEVANT CONTEXT OF THAT TIME.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT RACISM IS A PART OF OUR HISTORY AND SADLY, EVEN A PART OF OUR PRESENT, WHICH IS WHY THIS AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY.

SPECIFIC WORDING WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE MOU THAT BRINGS RACIAL AND ETHNIC SENSITIVITY TO THE ACCURATE HISTORY OF WHAT INDEED HAPPENED ON THE HALLOWED GROUNDS OF THE ALAMO.

THIS IS PART OF THE AMENDMENT THAT I WROTE THAT EVERYONE APPROVED MY FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE.

AND SO I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF WE CAN HONOR THAT.

TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE BEFORE THE NEXT $5 MILLION IS ALLOCATED.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE PUT THIS $5 MILLION IN THE BUDGET.

WE HAVE YET TO DO THE BUDGET SEASON.

SO I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE.

AND I SPEAK FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HERE WHO CAN'T SPEAK.

AND THAT'S WHY WE PUSH THE $25 MILLION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THAT WAS THE WHOLE DISCUSSION FOR $25 MILLION.

SO I'D LIKE FOR THE ALAMO TO HONOR THAT.

THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND OF COURSE, WE'RE HAPPY TO COME MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY OR BEFORE THE ENTIRE COURT AT ANY TIME.

AND TO HONOR THE COMMITMENT THAT WAS MADE.

SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUDGE, IF I MAY.

OH, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

THANK YOU. JUDGE.

I JUST WANT TO THANK KATE FOR FOR BEING HERE AND PRESENTING AND GIVING EVERYONE AN UPDATE TODAY.

TO JONATHAN AND THE REST OF THE THE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM THERE.

YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE WITH WITH YOU HAS BEEN PURELY PROFESSIONAL.

IN EVERY WAY.

COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN STRONG.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THE THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE BEEN A PART OF, I FEEL THERE'S A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF VOICES BEING HEARD AT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.

A WHOLE ROOM FULL OF VERY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, DIFFERENT RACES, ETHNICITIES.

AND EVERYONE IS BEING BEING HEARD.

THAT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE.

AND SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT WE HAVE THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT VOICES, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY EVERYONE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER IN ALL OF THIS.

AND I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE WE WANT TO ENSURE EVERYONE'S HEARD, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN THING WITH THE ALAMO. WHEN WE HAVE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF VISITORS FROM FROM NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, TEXAS, NOT JUST THE UNITED STATES, BUT ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THEY THEY COME HERE TO HEAR THE STORY OF THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY VISIT THE ALAMO.

THERE'S THERE'S DIFFERENT PIECES TO THAT STORY THAT WE CAN WEAVE IN TO THE VISITOR CENTER AND THE EXPERIENCES THERE.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE BATTLE OF THE ALAMO IS IS WHY THE STATE OF TEXAS IS INVESTING HALF $1 BILLION IN OUR CITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN THING.

THANK YOU. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COMMISSIONER MOODY, THERE ARE MORE DIVERSE VOICES BECAUSE I FOUGHT TO GET THEM ON THERE.

YOU WERE NOT HERE.

WE WENT THROUGH TWO COMMISSIONERS BEFORE YOU, AS YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

SO YOU'RE CORRECT.

THERE ARE MORE DIVERSITY.

THERE IS MORE DIVERSITY REPRESENTED AND MORE VOICES BECAUSE I HAD TO REPEATEDLY FIGHT TO GET THAT ON THERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR AFFIRMING THAT, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

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MR. RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. KATE, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE BUDGET ON THERE? I DON'T KNOW WHO'S CONTROLLING THAT, BUT IT WAS THE, I THINK ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES.

YES, SIR. THIS ONE HERE. YEAH.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS COULD BE PARTLY MY LACK OF SOPHISTICATION ON THESE PROJECTS.

I KNOW THIS IS ALSO A VERY UNIQUE PROJECT.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A YOU KNOW, A BARN HERE, BUT THE THE YEARLY ARCHITECTURAL FEES.

I MEAN, NORMALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING SOME KIND OF CONSTRUCTION LIKE THIS OR REHABILITATION, THERE'S A ARCHITECTURAL FEE THAT IS UP FRONT.

THEY DO THE WORK AND THEN THEY'RE DONE.

SO WHY IS IT THAT THERE IS IT SHOWS A ALMOST A $4 MILLION ARCHITECTURAL FEE THAT'S ONGOING EVERY.

IS THAT WHAT I'M READING CORRECTLY? I'M GOING TO START TO SEE THOSE ARCHITECTURAL FEES GO DOWN AND CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE WE WE JUST NOW THIS FALL IN FACT IN AUGUST WILL COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THE PHASES OF DESIGN AND HONESTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY DIDN'T CONVEY QUITE CLEARLY, BUT THE COUNTY MONEY ENABLED US TO DO THAT. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE WAS UNWILLING TO FUND.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THE ARCHITECTURAL FEES ARE FRONT LOADED AND TO YOUR POINT, USUALLY REPRESENT ABOUT 10% OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF A BUILDING.

AND WE'RE RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT.

THIS BUILDING WE JUST SIGNED THE THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MUSEUM.

IT'LL BE ABOUT $185 MILLION WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE.

JUST FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDING EXHIBITS.

YEAH. SO THE ARCHITECTURAL FEES WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THE 12 TO $15 MILLION RANGE.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

YEAH, I JUST NEEDED A REFRESHER ON THAT.

I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY, WHEN WE DID THIS A FEW YEARS AGO, WAS KIND OF THE FIRST ONE IN ON THE ALAMO.

I LIKE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I WAS AT THE STATE AND THEY DRAGGED THEIR FEET, BUT THEY'RE COMING ALONG, AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE THEY WERE PART OF, I THINK THEIR INCENTIVE FOR INVESTING IN THIS PROJECT WAS BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY'S INITIAL COMMITMENT.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOOTHOLD MOVING.

SO. OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THAT.

SO SO, SO THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL FEES ON YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT OBVIOUSLY WE'LL GO DOWN ONCE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.

AND AGAIN, THAT IS THAT IS WHAT'S THE TIMELINE AGAIN? I KNOW YOU RAN THROUGH SOME SLIDES THE FALL IN SEPTEMBER.

WE ACTUALLY BEGAN CONSTRUCTION IN THE FALL.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL BUDGET, YOU JUST PUT A NUMBER OUT THERE 100 AND 185 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S ANOTHER 50 MILLION FOR THE EXHIBITS INSIDE THE BUILDING.

THE TOTAL PROJECT OVERALL IS $550 MILLION.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THE STATE PUT IN 400 MILLION DURING THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

PART OF OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COUNTY WAS THAT WE WOULD WORK IN EARNEST TO RAISE PRIVATE DOLLARS ALONGSIDE THE PUBLIC DOLLARS.

TO DATE, WE'VE RAISED A LITTLE OVER 60 MILLION IN PRIVATE FUNDING TO HELP GET US TO COMPLETION.

OKAY. SO SO YOU'RE STILL A LITTLE BIT SHORT OF THE THE ULTIMATE NUMBER WE ARE.

AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT NUMBER MAY BE FLUCTUATING A LITTLE BIT.

YES. AS YOU KNOW INFLATION SETS IN AND SUPPLY CHAIN THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU'LL GET THERE.

OH YES. BETWEEN A COMBINATION OF, OF STATE, COUNTY, LOCAL AND PRIVATE DOLLARS.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

YES, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.

GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. ANY OTHER COMMENT QUESTIONS? LET ME JUST THANK KATE.

KATE, THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO MY OFFICE.

THE BRIEFING WITH ME AND MY ENTIRE TEAM WAS VERY FRUITFUL AND ENLIGHTENING AND HELPED ME UNDERSTAND AND HELP ME CATCH UP, SO TO SPEAK, SINCE I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED.

SO I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE EXPECTATIONS.

AND SO MY.

NOT DIRECTIVE, BUT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR YOU, THOMAS.

LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND DESIGNATE A DATE EITHER AROUND THIS TIME OR WHATEVER TIME IS MOST CONVENIENT OR MOST CONDUCIVE TO A BRIEFING, SO THAT THERE'S NOT A MISUNDERSTANDING.

LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND COMMIT TO THAT.

THEN ALSO TO EITHER THE COURT OR THE ALAMO TRUST HAS A RIGHT TO ASK FOR A MEETING FOR WHATEVER CIRCUMSTANCE COMES UP. SO BUT LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND PLAN THAT.

WE WANT TO GO GET A BRIEFING.

AND THEN WITHIN THOSE BRIEFINGS, I WOULD ANTICIPATE ONCE WE GET THAT DATE CERTAIN, THEN YOU CAN GIVE NOTICE TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN AND INDIVIDUALLY BRIEF THEM. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THE DATE OF THIS ANNUAL REVIEWS COMING.

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AND HERE'S OUR.

AND SO EACH COMMISSIONER OBVIOUSLY HAVE VERY, VERY BUSY SCHEDULES.

AND IT WOULD GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY AND YOUR TEAM AND YOUR OFFICE THE ABILITY TO COORDINATE THAT IS OBVIOUSLY EVEN ON WITH ME.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GET AN AGREED DATE SOMETIME.

SO LET'S JUST TRY TO COORDINATE THAT AND LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD.

AND I APPRECIATE THE REPORT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TODAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I JUST WANT TO FOR THE RECORD, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING FREE COUNTY DAYS FOR EVENTS WHERE COMMISSIONERS CAN HAVE EVENTS.

SO I JUST I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT INTO THE AGREEMENT SO WE CAN TALK TO THOMAS AND NEGOTIATE WITH STAFF AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COMMISSIONERS FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY. AND FREE DAYS FOR COUNTY FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I BELIEVE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I THINK WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF ALL THE MATTERS FROM CEREMONY TIME CERTAIN TO THOSE MATTERS THAT WERE PULLED.

WE DID TAKE UP ONE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

WE TOOK UP ITEM 57.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THAT, BUT LET'S NOW GO BACK TO ITEM 54 AWARDING A PURCHASE ORDER TO THE LOWEST AND MOST RESPONSIVE BID SUBMITTED BY GATEWAY

[54. Awarding a purchase order to the lowest, most responsive bid submitted by Gateway Printing & Office Supply, Inc. for the purchase of office furniture for the Precinct 4 Satellite Office in the base bid amount of $642,351.53, plus $25,000 of owner contingency, for a grand total award of $667,351.53, as requested by the Facilities Management Department; and authorizing the Purchasing Agent to execute and file appropriate award documents for record, and approval of the appropriate budget transfer.]

PRINTING AND OFFICE SUPPLY FOR THE PURCHASE OF OFFICE FURNITURE FOR THE PRECINCT, FOR SATELLITE OFFICE IN THE BASE BID AMOUNT OF 640 200 $351.53, PLUS 25,000 OF OWNER CONTINGENCY FOR GRAND TOTAL AWARD OF 660 700 $351.53 AS REQUESTED BY THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, AND AUTHORIZING IMPERSONATORS TO EXECUTE AND FILE APPROPRIATE AWARD DOCUMENTS FOR RECORD AND APPROVAL OF THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET TRANSFER.

PRESENTATION BY MISTER DAN CURRY.

THANK YOU FOR READING THAT CAPTION.

IT'S QUITE WORDY. JUDGE DAN CURRY, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES MANAGEMENT.

FOR THE RECORD, I'M HERE TO BRING YOU A HOPEFULLY RESOLUTION TODAY TO EVENT 1058, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC BID FOR PRECINCT FOR OFFICE FURNITURE.

GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, BACK IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE RELEASED AN IFB THROUGH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT FOR IT WAS CALLED THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT FOR OFFICE FURNITURE, BUT INCLUDE OFFICE FURNITURE FOR THE ENTIRE NEW PRECINCT SET FOR SATELLITE FACILITY ON THE 51 ACRES.

THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDED THE FURNITURE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION, THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

WE DID RECEIVE FOUR RESPONSES.

ONE WAS A NO BID. AND THEN WE HAD THREE OTHER RESPONSES GATEWAY PRINTING AND OFFICE SUPPLY, SHELTON KELLER GROUP, AND WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS, LLC.

SO HERE IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE ACTUAL BID TAB FROM THAT SOLICITATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, ALFRED WILLIAMS WAS A NO BID BASE BID FROM GATEWAY 642,000 AND CHANGE SKG TEXAS 888 AND CHANGE WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS 796 536.

SO DURING THE SOLICITATION, THERE WAS A QUESTION ARE SUBSTITUTIONS ALLOWED? SO AS PART OF THOSE RESPONSES PROVIDED IN THE OPEN SOLICITATION DOCUMENT THEY SAID THEY WERE SUBSTITUTIONS WERE ALLOWED AND THE COUNTY HAD FINAL APPROVAL OF THOSE SUBSTITUTIONS.

THE LOW BIDDER DID PROVIDE SUBSTITUTIONS.

WOULD BE VERY CLEAR ON THAT.

WE ASKED A MEMBER OF THE DESIGN COMPANY SUB CONSULTANT THAT DID THE FURNITURE DESIGN FOR US AND SPECIFICATIONS TO REVIEW THOSE SUBSTITUTION REQUESTS. THE CONSULTANT DID PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO US AND MADE REFERENCES TO THEIR OPINION OF LESSER QUALITY PRODUCT THAT WAS SUBSTITUTED.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DISAGREES WITH THAT ASSESSMENT.

AND WE HAVE USED THE PRODUCT THEY'RE SPECIFYING ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AT OTHER FACILITIES.

AND WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED SUBSTITUTIONS ARE OF EQUITABLE QUALITY AND MEET THE INTENT OF THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE BID PACKAGE.

AND SO, AGAIN, I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUDGE? COMMISSIONER, CAN I HEAR FROM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, PLEASE? WELL, HOLD ON. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISTER CURRY? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOR DAN, MISTER COMMISSIONER MOODY.

NOT AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. MISS TORRES.

GOOD AFTERNOON. PATRICIA TORRES, PURCHASING AGENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICIA.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DISCREPANCY.

I'VE LOOKED AT A PAGE IN THE ACTUAL IFB WHERE IT INDICATED QUESTION SEVEN.

IT WAS THE FOLLOWING FROM THE PEOPLE WHO BID, ARE YOU ALLOWING COMPARABLE PRODUCT SUBSTITUTIONS, I.E.

DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS AND SPECIFIED.

AND THE ANSWER THE COUNTY GAVE A SEVEN WAS NO.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THE RESPONSES TO ALL QUESTIONS WAS RECEIVED BY THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT TEAM.

SO I WOULD ASK, CAN YOU THERE'S THERE'S YEAH.

SO DO YOU REPRESENT THAT THAT HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

WE'RE GOING TO GO ONE AT A TIME OKAY.

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STAND BACK, MR. CURRY. OKAY. ALSO QUESTION 14 WAS WILL WE ALLOW SUBSTITUTIONS FOR THE TECHNION SYSTEMS? AND THE ANSWER THE COUNTY GAVE WAS, QUOTE, SUBSTITUTIONS ONLY ALLOWED WITH THE EXPRESS APPROVAL OF THE USER.

IS THAT ACCURATE IN THE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE COUNTY ONLINE? CORRECT. OKAY. ALSO THE RESPONSE RECEIVED BY THE FACILITY TEAM.

OKAY. UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, I THINK SOME NEED FOR COLLABORATION AND JUST WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS RIGHT NOW. NOW IN JANUARY, ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGENDA, THERE ARE SOME PRECEDENTS FOR CONSISTENCY IN HOW WE DEAL WITH THINGS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE PURCHASING MANUAL OF THE COUNTY THAT FOR SMALL BUSINESS THEY APPRECIATE CONSISTENCY.

SO ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD, FOR EXAMPLE, IN JANUARY WAS ON THE AT&T, THE FROST BANK CENTER.

WE HAD KIND OF A CASE I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER WHERE A COMPANY WAS THE LOWEST BIDDER, BUT THEY COLLABORATED WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND PURCHASING AND THEY DECIDED THAT THE CAPTION WOULD BE AWARDING A CONTRACT TO THE NEXT LOWEST RESPONSIBLE AND RESPONSIVE BIDDER, HARPER BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION. DO YOU RECALL THAT? YES, I DO, OKAY.

AND ALSO IN FEBRUARY THE AGENDA, FEBRUARY 20TH THERE WAS A LOW BID THAT WAS AWARDED.

EXCUSE ME, THAT WAS NOT AWARDED TO AZTECA CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, BUT IT WAS AWARDING A PURCHASE ORDER TO THE LOWEST AND MOST RESPONSIVE BID SUBMITTED BY ALL PRO GENERAL CONSTRUCTION.

AND THAT WAS THE FEBRUARY 20TH AGENDA.

DO YOU RECALL THAT ONE AS WELL? YES, SIR. OKAY.

SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT I NEED THE COURT TO BE AWARE OF.

IN THE BID FROM GATEWAY.

IS IT MISSING 14 CHAIRS FROM THE BID? THERE ARE MULTIPLE LINES MISSING.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE ITEMS MISSING.

SO GATEWAY DID NOT MEET ALL SPECIFICATIONS THAT'S REQUIRED.

SO THOSE CHAIRS COSTS MONEY THAT YOU CAN'T COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES, THAT THEY WERE A RESPONSIVE BIDDER.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO THAT MAKES HIM AN UNRESPONSIVE BIDDER.

RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY.

SO IN TERMS OF THE COURTROOMS I KNOW WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY HERE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THE STATE LAW REQUIRES IS SEATING IN COURTROOMS TO BE BOLTED SO THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT THROWING THEM.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE COURTROOM, THOSE SEATS ARE NOT BOLTED.

IS THAT RIGHT? GATEWAY DID NOT PROPOSE THAT THAT SPECIFICATION OR THAT SOLUTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR CONSTABLE HERE AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROTECTING THE JUDGE AND EVERYONE FROM A COURT ISSUE THAT COULD ARISE BECAUSE OF AN EVICTION OR BECAUSE OF SOMEONE JUST BEING UPSET ABOUT THE SMALL CLAIMS PROCEEDINGS.

NOW THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE HAS INDICATED AS WELL THAT THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE SEATS, THAT THEY GO THROUGH A LOT OF SEATS BECAUSE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW LOT OF EQUIPMENT.

THAT EQUIPMENT WEIGHS THEM DOWN.

AND THE SEATS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE BREAK QUITE OFTEN.

AND SO I THINK THE CONSTABLE WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.

BUT TONY CANEZ ALSO, I UNDERSTAND SENT AN EMAIL SAYING THAT THE LOCKERS WERE INCORRECT BUT COULD BE CHANGED LATER.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THERE WAS A ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO THE LOCKERS NOT BEING LAW ENFORCEMENT LOCKERS, BUT KIND OF LIKE SCHOOL LOCKERS.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING ON THE GATEWAY BID? YES. OKAY.

AND THEN ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT COSTS, PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT COST TO THE COUNTY TO INDICATE THAT THIS IS NOT A LOW BID.

IS THE FACT THAT THE TECHNION EQUIPMENT, WHICH WAS DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH FACILITIES, THE TAX ASSESSOR, COLLECTOR AND THE DESIGNERS IS TWO INCHES SMALLER.

SO THEREFORE IN THE DESIGN OF THE ELECTRICAL AND THE WALLS WHERE THE CUBICLES GO, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE COUNTY TO HAVE A CHANGE ORDER, WHICH WOULD MEAN GETTING THE WALLS MOVED, GETTING THE ELECTRICAL MOVED AND THE WALLS REDESIGNED, WHICH WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY A SIX FIGURE IMPACT AND A SIGNIFICANT DELAY.

IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CUBICLES THAT GATEWAY PROPOSED DO NOT FIT IN THE IN THE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT WE DESIGNED? YES. OKAY.

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SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS THERE ARE OVER 20 MISSING FIXTURES.

COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE IN TERMS OF YOUR REVIEW OF WHY YOU BELIEVE THIS IS AN UNRESPONSIVE? THE GATEWAY IS AN UNRESPONSIVE.

THERE'S HOW MANY THINGS THAT WERE ACTUALLY MISSING FROM THE BID WHICH WHICH OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY'RE MISSING, THEY CAN BECOME THE LOW BID.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO IT IS NOT A FAIR COMPARISON.

SO THE COMPETITIVE BID DOES NOT ALLOW NEGOTIATIONS.

AND PURCHASING EVALUATION OF THE GATEWAY PRINTING AND OFFICE SUPPLY BID RESPONSE.

WE COMPARED IT LINE BY LINE EACH SPECIFICATION AND WE HAVE EVALUATED OUR DEEMED GATEWAY AS NON-RESPONSIVE OR NON-RESPONSIVE SINCE THERE WAS LINES MISSING. SO IT'S NOT A COMPLETE BID.

WE CANNOT COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.

SO THERE TO TO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS DISQUALIFIED.

THANK YOU. SO JUST IN TERMS OF PROCESS TODAY THERE WAS COLLABORATION IN THE PAST WITH FACILITIES, PUBLIC WORKS AND THERE ISN'T AS MUCH IN THIS CASE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST TO THE TAXPAYERS, ULTIMATELY, OF HAVING SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ORDERS.

WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING? DID I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, WHICH HAS YOUR NAME ON IT, WAS WRITTEN LIKE IN JANUARY BEFORE YOUR TEAM HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THESE MISSING ITEMS. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY. SO THE PROCESS NORMALLY WOULD BE, I THINK LED BY THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.

THERE ARE STATE LAWS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW UNDER TWO 60 TWO.

TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF THE PROCESS FOR NON-RESPONSIVE BIDS.

I HAVE POINTED OUT TWO PARTICULAR RECENT CASES OF THE COURT VOTED ON WHERE WE WENT TO THE MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER.

BUT WHAT? TELL ME ABOUT OUR PROCESS.

RIGHT. SO NOT NON RESPONSIVE OR NON RESPONSIBLE.

YOU THERE ARE DEEMED OR NON RESPONSIVE AND NON RESPONSIBLE.

AND SO THERE RESULTED IN DISQUALIFICATION.

SO THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED.

SO YOU GO TO THE NEXT.

SO THE NEXT TWO SO TWO BID RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED BY SKG TEXAS AND WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS THAT DID MEET ALL SPECIFICATIONS. AND ARE TO BE CONSIDERED.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE COURT THE SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL SIX FIGURE COST THAT CAN HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF AN UNRESPONSIVE BIDDER.

THERE WE SET ASIDE ENOUGH MONEY TO DEAL WITH THE MOST RESPONSIVE NEXT BIDDER.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COURT FOR THE GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

SO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.

AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN EMPTY BUILDING BECAUSE OF DELAYS.

SO WE SHOULD GET THIS, YOU KNOW, MOVING AND ON.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF TIME TO BE COLLABORATIVE WITH THE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE CHANGE ORDERS COME BACK TO THE COURT.

AND FRANKLY, I'M NOT GOING TO PAY FOR BREAKING DOWN WALLS THAT ARE JUST BUILT AND ELECTRICAL TO BE REDONE AND CONSTRUCTION TO BE REDONE.

WHEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING TODAY AND HAVE THE MOST RESPONSIVE LOW BIDDER AWARDED.

SO JUDGE, I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR WORK FOR WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS, THE MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER.

AND LOWEST COST, MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

IS THERE A SECOND? LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING.

SO HE'S MAKING A MOTION FOR THIS FOR WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

GATEWAY PRINTING.

NO, THE COMMISSIONER CALVERT, CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT YOUR MOTION? SURE. IT WAS FOR WORKSPACE SOLUTIONS WHO WAS RESPONSIVE TO ALL THE FURNITURE.

GATEWAY DID NOT HAVE ALL THE FURNITURE IN THEIR BID AND THEREFORE ARE DEEMED UNRESPONSIVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? JUST I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT A SECOND.

OTHERWISE, WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT MOTION.

HEARING. NO SECOND MOTION FAILS.

LET'S CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR.

OKAY, I'LL.

WE'LL YIELD TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU HAD QUESTIONS? YOU MAY ASK.

WELL, I THINK I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK DAN TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS THE THE ITEMS AND POINTS THAT THAT HAVE BEEN

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MADE, YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT FROM OUR POSITION WHEN WE HAVE STAFF THAT HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHAT IS RESPONSIVE AND WHAT IS NOT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SORT THESE THINGS OUT PRIOR TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.

BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME NOW TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS, THEN LET'S DO IT.

COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER DAN CURRY, DO YOU DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY? YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S FAIRLY OPEN ENDED.

I CAN GO INTO SOME OF THE TOPICS, IF YOU LIKE, OR ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

SO, COMMISSIONER MOODY, CAN YOU NARROW YOUR QUESTION? WOULD YOU? YES. MR. CURRY, TO GO LINE BY LINE ON THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE THE SUBSTITUTIONS PART AND THAT ALL RESPONDENTS ARE BEING TREATED THE SAME WHEN IT COMES TO SUBSTITUTIONS? ONE. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE GAP IN THE LINE ITEMS THAT WERE NOT RESPONDED TO BY GATEWAY AND TO TO THE THE SIZE, SPACING, POTENTIAL CHANGE ORDER REQUIREMENTS BASED ON WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED BY GATEWAY THAT THE TOPICS THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT. SURE.

SO SO IN GENERAL, WE ALWAYS ALLOW SUBSTITUTIONS ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

IT GOES FROM STRUCTURAL STEEL TO ELECTRICAL WIRING TO ELECTRICAL BOXES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREAM.

SO THOSE ARE APPROVED AND REJECTED BY THE PROJECT TEAM.

WE LOOKED AT THE COMPARISONS AND FOUND THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES, SOME THAT THE, AGAIN, THE FURNITURE CONSULTANT SAID THAT WERE BETTER QUALITY.

WE DIDN'T THINK IT EQUATED TO A DIFFERENCE THAT THAT MADE THAT BIDDER NON-RESPONSIVE.

FOR INSTANCE, THE THICKNESS OF THE TOP OF A CONFERENCE TABLE IS AN EIGHTH OF AN INCH THINNER.

WE DON'T THINK THAT'S JUSTIFICATION TO DISQUALIFY A BIDDER.

AND SO AS FAR AS THE MISSING PARTS AND EQUIPMENT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HEARING THAT, THAT THERE'S MISSING LINES ON THAT SOLICITATION.

AGAIN, WE TURNED IN OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE PURCHASING AGENT IN JANUARY.

AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK UNTIL TODAY UPON THOSE MISSING ITEMS. SAY THAT AGAIN WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE AGENDA ITEM AGENT.

RIGHT. SO WE THE PROCESS FOR US AS A DEPARTMENT IS WHEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC BID, PURCHASING AGENT PROVIDES US THE THE BID TABULATION.

WE TAKE THAT BID TABULATION AND REVIEW IT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IN COURT.

SO I DRAFT A MEMO THAT SAYS DAN CURRY WISHES FACILITIES MANAGEMENT WISHES TO PUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA AWARDING TO THIS CONTRACTOR IN THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA ITEM.

WE PROVIDE THAT TO THE PURCHASING AGENT AND THEY DRAFT THE AGENDA.

WHEN WAS THAT? IT WAS EARLY JANUARY OR LATE JANUARY TO MY JANUARY THIS YEAR.

YES, WE'RE JUNE OF THIS YEAR.

WE ARE, WE ARE AGAIN.

THE ITEM WAS PUT ON COURT ORIGINALLY AND IT WAS PULLED.

IT WAS DEFERRED FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.

AND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION EVER SINCE THEN.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING TO THE COURT.

SO WHAT DATE WAS THE AGENDA ITEM ON THE.

EARLIER. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS EARLY MARCH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

AND WAS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE LOW BID? IT WAS PULLED FROM THE FROM THE AGENDA.

IT WAS ASKED TO BE DEFERRED.

AND WHEN DID YOU GET RESPONSE TO THE FACT THAT THE PURCHASING AGENT DETERMINED THIS ISSUE TO BE NON RESPONSIVE? WE NEVER RECEIVED FORMAL NOTIFICATION OF THAT.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, I YIELD BACK TO YOU FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO. AND AGAIN SORRY, I JUST WELL, SO LET ME LET ME JUST RESPOND TO THAT.

FIRST OF ALL I, I'M NOT SURE IF I SPEAK JUST FOR MYSELF.

AND IT'S CONCERNING IF, IF WE'RE NOT HAVING COMMUNICATION YOU KNOW, IN THIS PROCESS WITHIN STAFF THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

COULD YOU, COULD YOU AND I DON'T KNOW IF MISS TORRES CAN ADDRESS THE, THE LINE ITEM GAPS.

AND IF WHEN DID YOU BECOME AWARE OF THOSE AND WHY WAS THAT NOT COMMUNICATED? EXCUSE ME. SO ON MAY, EARLY MAY, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM DAN CURRY REQUESTING TO ASSIST WITH THE EVALUATION AND QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.

AND SO MY TEAM AND I DEVELOPED OR CREATED A LINE BY LINE EVALUATION.

SO WE WENT AND THROUGH ALL THE BID DOCUMENTS AND CREATED EACH ONE OF THE LINES.

SO WE HAVE THE LINES THAT WERE NOT BIDDED WERE NOT BID ON BY GATEWAY OR LINES FOR THE PATIO FURNITURE.

THERE'S OTHER LINES, LIKE THERE'S BOOKSHELVES.

SO THERE'S SEVERAL LINES THAT THERE'S NO BID ON.

SO THAT AND SO THEN WHEN WE, WE HAD NOT FINALIZED THE EVALUATION.

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AND SO THAT'S WHY OUR RECOMMENDATION HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.

SO WE DID NOT WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO MEET WITH DAN CURRY AND THE CONSULTANTS WE HAD NOT FINALIZED.

PURCHASING DEPARTMENT DID NOT PLACE THIS AGENDA FOR TODAY'S COURT.

COMMISSIONER MOODY. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO RESPOND TO WE HAD NOT FINISHED, CHRISTINE.

WE HAD NOT FINISHED.

WE HAD NOT FINISHED COORDINATING MEETINGS TO TO DISCUSS OUR FINDINGS.

OKAY. MR. CURRY, CAN YOU GO BACK AND ADDRESS THE CHANGE ORDERS WITH THE REQUEST? THE SPACING AND POTENTIALLY HAVING TO MOVE WALLS OR MAKE MAJOR CHANGES, EXPENSIVE CHANGES DUE TO THE SPACING AND SIZING. YEAH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I DISAGREE THAT THAT'S NOT THE APPROACH WE'VE EVER TAKEN ON ANY PROJECT.

IF WE GO INTO AN OFFICE AND THE DESK IS A HALF INCH TOO LARGE FOR THAT SPACE, WE'RE GOING TO GET A DIFFERENT DESK.

SYSTEMS FURNITURE IS DESIGNED IN THREE INCH INCREMENTS, SO WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT WE CAN MAKE THE SPACING OF THAT PARTICULAR PANEL SYSTEM WORK.

OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS BEEN ON SITE EVEN AFTER RECEIVING THOSE BIDS, AND VERIFIED THAT WITHOUT, WE BELIEVE, ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNIFICANT COST, WE CAN MAKE THAT FURNITURE SOLUTION WORK.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOW BIDDER IS IS A RESPONSE.

WE BELIEVE THE LOW BIDDER IS RESPONSIVE.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT WHETHER IF THERE'S PIECES MISSING AGAIN, IT'S THE FIRST WE'RE HEARING OF IT.

WE SAW IT APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF THE SUBSTITUTION LINES.

AND IN THAT SUBSTITUTION LINE THE SUBSTITUTION.

THE VENDOR PROVIDED A MAKE AND MODEL OF A SUBSTITUTION PATIO TABLE AND CHAIR.

NOW I HAVE WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO THE SCHEDULE OF VALUES.

IF THE PURCHASING AGENT REACHED OUT TO THOSE VENDORS AND GOT A SCHEDULE OF VALUES BY LINE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE RESPONSES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED, AND WE'RE IN A NON-CONTACT PERIOD AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REACH OUT TO THEM.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL THE VENDOR AND SAY, HEY, WOULD YOU HAVE FOR THE PATIO FURNITURE? THAT'S THAT'S NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE PURCHASING ACT.

AND THE PURCHASING MANUAL, IT SAYS, ALLOWS US TO HAVE NO CONTACT.

SO ALL OF OUR CONTACT AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE VENDOR GOES THROUGH THE PURCHASING AGENT.

SO WE'RE ONLY PRIVY TO INFORMATION WE ARE SHARED.

JUDGE. SO ARE THE LINE ITEM GAPS.

OR THE LINE ITEM GAPS DUE TO THESE SUBSTITUTIONS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? OR ARE THESE TRULY GAPS? THAT THAT YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF BEFORE TODAY? THESE ARE I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY GAPS IN THE BID.

OKAY. MISS TORRES, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THESE ARE NOT ABOUT SUBSTITUTIONS? THESE ARE ACTUAL GAPS.

WELL, I'LL REITERATE THAT OUR EVALUATIONS HAD NOT BEEN COMPLETED, SO WE HAD NOT MET WITH THE CONSULTANT NOR THE FACILITIES TEAM.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'VE DRAFTED, I DID NOT CONTACT THE VENDOR.

THIS IS THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT CREATING A LINE BY LINE COMPARISON.

THE PATIO FURNITURE WAS MISSING FOR THE TAX.

LET'S SEE. ONE SECOND.

THE TAX PATIO, WHICH WAS A THREE ROUND TABLES AND 12 CHAIRS.

AND IF THERE'S BOOKSHELVES THAT WERE MISSING, AND MR. CURRY STATING THAT FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE GOING TO BE SUBSTITUTED, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.

I DIDN'T FIND THAT.

OKAY. I'LL PAUSE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS HAS ANY QUESTIONS HERE, BUT BUT I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN SORT THIS OUT. PRIOR TO TO COURT.

IF THERE'S SERIOUS GAPS IN KNOWLEDGE AROUND WHAT'S WHAT'S BEEN BEEN ON AND WHAT'S NOT, IF THERE'S LINE GAPS.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO DO THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER, THOUGH.

IF THIS WAS PUT OUT FIVE MONTHS AGO BY FACILITIES AND AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE CLARITY ON THAT, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO, TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY AND BE ABLE TO DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S TAKEN SO LONG IN REGARDS TO THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT PUTS ELECTED OFFICIALS IN A TOUGH SPOT WHEN WE'RE HEARING DIFFERENT STORIES FROM DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS.

AND SO I'LL PAUSE THERE.

LET ME HAVE COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

YEAH. SO, DAN THIS IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

WHAT'S PRINTED HERE? CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.

OKAY. SO FOR FOR CLARITY, IT'S FACILITIES MANAGEMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH. YES.

CORRECT. SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED.

PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT MISSING FIXTURES AND PLUG OUTLETS.

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THAT SEEMS VERY SPECIFIC DETAIL.

TELL ME WHAT'S BEEN DONE ON THIS BUILDING.

SO THE BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE'RE WE'RE ALMOST ENTIRELY CLOSED IN.

THERE ARE ROCK WALLS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING.

WE'RE ON TRACK TO FINISH BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR FOR THAT.

BUT WHEN DID THIS PROJECT START? OH, LAST OCTOBER, SUMMER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S BEEN. IT'S BEEN ABOUT A 15 MONTH PROJECT.

YEAH. OKAY.

I KNOW A MOTION WAS MADE PREVIOUSLY.

LARRY, THIS IS FOR YOU.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THE MOTION WAS MADE PREVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T PASS, BUT IT WAS MADE FOR A COMPANY OTHER THAN GATEWAY PRINTING.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S PRINTED HERE ON THE AGENDA.

SO IS THAT EVEN IF THAT MOTION FAILED, COMMISSIONER, IT DID FAIL.

BUT CAN YOU CAN ONE EVEN MAKE A MOTION WITH SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? I THOUGHT EVERYTHING HAD TO BEEN POSTED.

HE MADE A MOTION THAT WAS GERMANE TO THE ISSUE.

IT WAS JUST WITH A DIFFERENT VENDOR, BUT IT FAILED.

IT DID NOT RECEIVE A SECOND.

OKAY, I'M JUST CLARIFYING.

I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE NOW.

DOCTOR. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, IS THAT OKAY? I JUST WANT TO BRING IT BACK.

I THINK WE CAN. HOLD ON. HOLD ON.

COMMISSIONER, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'M NOT SURE.

MAYBE FOR DAN. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF OF COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

I KNOW HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME, AND I KNOW THERE'S ALREADY BEEN, YOU KNOW, A FEW CHANGE ORDERS THAT THIS COURT HAS SUPPORTED TO TRY AND GET WHERE THIS NEEDS TO BE. BUT I'M I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED, I GUESS, ABOUT I GUESS JUST THE THE PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE SOMETHING THAT'S POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BID AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A STAFFER, WHETHER IT'S YOU PATRICIA OR DAN THAT PUTS THEIR NAME ON THIS ITEM, I, I KIND OF EXPECT YOU TO STAND BY THAT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF BACK AND FORTH IS A LITTLE BIT TROUBLING FROM A JUST A PROCESS AND TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

AND SO I GUESS WHEN I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY SOME STATUTORY ISSUES HERE AS WELL, LARRY, IN TERMS OF A LOW BID, I KNOW WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GO WITH THE LOW BID BY BY LAW.

THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S BEEN EXCEPTIONS TO TO LOW BID.

THIS IS NOT ONE THAT'S POSTED AS AN EXCEPTION.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING SOME PROCESS HERE.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE CAN WE CAN KIND OF REJECT THIS COMPLETELY.

ALL THE BIDS.

BUT WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE.

LOOK, I'M ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, GOT MY LAWYER HAT ON.

I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING HERE.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL. AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE OTHER LAWYER OUR LAWYER, TO GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK IN THIS SITUATION.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS ITEM WAS ACTUALLY.

I THINK THIS DAN BROUGHT THIS TO PURCHASING IN JANUARY.

IT WAS ACTUALLY POSTED ON AN AGENDA IN MARCH, WAS DEFERRED.

I THINK THAT'S THE PROGRESS.

IT WAS DEFERRED UNTIL NOW.

AND SO AND AT THIS POINT IT'S BEEN.

AT LEAST POSITED THAT THE VENDOR WAS DISQUALIFIED FOR SOME REASON.

THE COURT HAS THE OPTION TO EITHER AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER, REJECT ALL THE BIDS, OR IT CAN GO WITH A.

COMPANY THAT IS NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER, BUT THE STATUTE 262 DOES REQUIRE THAT IF THE COURT CHOOSES TO GO WITH ANOTHER BIDDER WHO IS NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER, THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL COMPANY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE NOTICE AND APPEAR BEFORE A COMMISSIONERS COURT.

RIGHT. IT'S THE COURT'S OPTION TO TO PURSUE THAT.

BUT IT'S THE STATUTE DOES HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IS.

AND THAT IS TWO 60 2027C1 AND TWO.

AND I THINK PURCHASING HAS ITS OWN POLICIES.

SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE OKAY.

BUT WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.

SO SO IF COMMISSIONER CALVERT REFERENCED SOME OF THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THAT WAS AN ISSUE.

SO. SO IF WE DIDN'T GO WITH THE LOW BID, THE COMPANY WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD IN A PUBLIC SETTING. YES.

AND THAT IS BY STATUTE AND BY PURCHASING ZONE POLICIES.

OKAY. WHERE THEY ARE PROVIDED NOTICE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

OKAY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. BUT GATEWAY IS NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER.

THEY'RE DISQUALIFIED. SO THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED.

SO LOWEST BID OKAY.

SO YOU HAVE A BID THAT'S A BIDDER THAT SUBMITTED THEIR RESPONSE.

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IF THEY DID NOT SPECIFY OR BID ON ALL ITEMS AS SPECIFIED, THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIVE.

THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED.

YOU'RE JUST THEY'RE DISQUALIFIED.

SO THEY'RE NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.

BUT IF THEY WERE DISQUALIFIED THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PRINTED ON THE AGENDA.

CORRECT? CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.

WELL, THAT AGENDA I DID NOT ASK FOR PATRICIA.

THAT'S WHAT I'M. THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS YOUR NAME IS BY THIS AGENDA ITEM, AND I ASSUME THAT MEANS WHETHER IT'S YOU OR ANY OTHER STAFF MEMBER, YOU HAVE OKAYED THIS AGENDA ITEM.

AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S CONSUMPTION, IT'S YOUR NAME.

AND IT SAYS THE THIS COMPANY IS THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BIDDER.

BUT NOW YOU'RE WALKING THAT BACK, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

YES. SO INITIALLY WHEN FACILITIES SUBMITTED A RECOMMENDATION TO US, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT TEAM MET WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND THAT THEY HAD EVALUATED LINE BY LINE.

RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WAS DEFERRED.

ALL THOSE TIMES I WASN'T INCLUDED IN THAT CONVERSATION.

SO PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN EACH TIME THE ITEM WAS DEFERRED.

SO IT MAY.

FIRST I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM DAN CURRY ASKING ME TO EVALUATE AND TO ASSIST WITH THIS MATTER.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE CREATED A LINE BY LINE COMPARISON FOR EVALUATION.

WE GENERATED THAT? YEAH, THEY WENT UP A LUMP SUM TOTAL.

COMMISSIONER RUDY, I THINK JUDGE I.

OKAY. HOLD ON. I'LL GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK I CAN BE HELPFUL.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

IT'S IT'S PROBLEMATIC THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD THE COLLABORATION.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST KIND OF LET IT COME BACK TO THE NEXT COURT DATE.

NOW, LET ME GIVE THE COURT A TIMELINE.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I'LL ASK OUR FURNITURE CONSULTANT TO JUST COME UP.

GRACE ROSE, JUST TO CONFIRM, IT'S ABOUT A THREE MONTH LEAD TIME IN ORDER TO GET THE FURNITURE.

I THINK THE ESTIMATED FINISH FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING IS AROUND DECEMBER, SO WE HAVE TIME TO GET THE FURNITURE THING RESOLVED.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY HOW MUCH LEAD TIME IT IS.

AND ALSO WITH RESPECT TO THE WALL SITUATION.

CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS THAT, PLEASE? OKAY. SO WHEN HELLO, EVERYBODY.

IN IN JANUARY.

YES, WE DID RESPOND.

I'M GRACE ROSE GONZALES.

I'M WITH GRACE PG DESIGN GROUP AND HEWITT ZOLLARS FOR THE DESIGN TEAM OF THE PRECINCT FOUR BUILDING.

AND SO IN JANUARY WE GOT THE BIDS BACK, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THE BIDS.

WHAT WE GOT WAS THE REQUEST FOR SUBSTITUTIONS.

WOULD WE ACCEPT THEM? SO WE WENT THROUGH AND EVALUATED THEM, AND WE FELT THAT SOME OF THE THINGS JUST DID NOT MEET THE STANDARD OF WHAT EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS HAD REQUESTED. ONE OF THEM WAS THE LOCKERS THAT IT WOULD CARRY LEGAL EQUIPMENT, AND IT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, WIDE ENOUGH AND EVERYTHING ELSE BUILT TO, TO DO THAT.

AND WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS NOT THERE WERE CHAIRS THAT WOULD WOULD TAKE ABOUT 350 POUNDS.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY BREAK THE CHAIRS A LOT.

AND SO THE CHAIRS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WERE 300 POUNDS AND THEY WERE LESS NOT AS WIDE, AND THEY NEEDED TO BE WIDER FOR FOR THE DEPUTIES. SO THERE WAS JUST A WHOLE LIST THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND WE SENT IT BACK SAYING, NO, WE DID NOT ACCEPT THESE.

THAT'S ALL.

THAT'S ALL WE DID IN JANUARY ON THE PANEL SYSTEMS. WE STARTED TO LOOK AT THEM AND REALIZE, AND I DO HAVE A SKETCH.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE COULD I GIVE YOU THE SKETCH TO GIVE? SO, YOU KNOW, WE REALIZE THAT THE THAT THE TECHNION.

I'LL HAVE TO KEEP ONE.

WHERE WHY WE SELECTED TECHNION WAS REALLY BECAUSE THE THE TAX ASSESSOR HAD TOLD US THAT HE DID NOT WANT BUILT IN, BUILT IN MILLWORK LIKE THE JP WAS GETTING.

HE PREFERRED TO HAVE.

WERE THESE WORK, WORK PANELS, YOU KNOW, CUBICLES.

SO WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF LAYOUTS AND WHAT HE NEEDED AND THE CABINETRY AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO WE CAME WE CAME UP WITH THE LAYOUT, WHICH IS SORT OF GRAZED IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT THE YELLOW LINES SHOW WHERE RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING WALLS ARE AND THOSE WALLS COME DOWN WITH ELECTRICAL.

AND SO THERE'S 25IN ONE 25FT, ONE INCH IS CLEAR, 18FT, TEN INCHES, 25FT, ONE INCHES.

AND THE AND YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT OF THE OF THE PANELS.

WELL THE GATEWAY IS ACTUALLY FIVE INCHES LARGER AND IN THE FIRST SECTION FOUR INCHES OVER AND THEN FIVE INCHES

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OVER. SO REALLY IT'S ABOUT 14IN OVER.

SO EITHER THE EITHER THEIR LAYOUT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE, TO GET BETWEEN THOSE WALLS OR THE WALLS NEED TO BE MOVED.

SO SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF LIKE IF YOU WERE IF YOU WERE IN YOUR KITCHEN AND YOU BUILT WALLS AND THEN THE CABINETS CAME IN AND THEY DIDN'T FIT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU GOT TO TAKE OUT ONE OF THE CABINETS.

YOU GOT TO MODIFY IT, WHATEVER.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

WE'VE BUILT THE WALLS.

NOW WE HAVE TO MODIFY HIS HIS PANEL SYSTEMS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE HE'S GOT TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WHAT IS GOING TO CHANGE.

AND THEY'RE VERY TIGHT TO, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THOSE ARE TIGHT LAYOUTS.

SO I'M JUST GOING OVER THOSE, THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE VERY REAL.

IT'S TRUE. YES.

I YOU KNOW THAT THE PATIO FURNITURE IS MISSING IN SOME OF THEM.

SOME OF THE CHAIRS ARE MISSING.

SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT LIST OF THINGS I WOULD SAY THAT THE BIGGEST ITEM IS REALLY THE PANEL SYSTEMS. AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR? BUT IF WE, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIVE BIDDERS AS A SMALL MINORITY WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS COMMITTEE ON THE COMMISSION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RESPECT THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK THE TIME TO BID.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE ITEMS WERE COMPLETELY BROKEN DOWN UNTIL MAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THAT.

COLLABORATION TO HAPPEN.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

WHERE WE'RE AT IS THAT, YES, IT TAKES ABOUT 12 TO 14 WEEKS FOR FURNITURE.

SUMMERTIME. MOST OF THESE MANUFACTURERS WILL GO DOWN FOR A WEEK OR SOMETHING TO RETOOL.

YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A SUMMER OFF IN THE MANUFACTURING.

SO I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, GO WITH A RESPONSIVE BIDDER.

RESPECT. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT DID RESPOND AND UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT I SPECIFIED EVERY ONE OF THE ITEMS, WHAT WE DID IS A DESIGN TEAM IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE OPEN LINES, WHICH MEANS THAT ANYONE CAN BID ON IT.

THERE WAS NOT A CLOSED LINE WHERE YOU COULD NOT BID ON IT.

SO IT WAS VERY OPEN TO ALL BIDDERS.

AND SO I WOULD. AND THE REASON IS SO THAT YOU COULD THE COUNTY COULD DO APPLES TO APPLES WHEN SOMEBODY STARTS TO SUBSTITUTE YOU CAN'T REALLY DO APPLES TO APPLES.

THE, THE CHAIR THAT CAN CARRY 350 POUNDS AS OPPOSED TO THE CHAIR THAT CARRIES 300 POUNDS.

THAT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

AND THERE WAS A THERE WAS A DISTINCT REQUEST FOR A STRONGER CHAIR CHAIRS THAT ARE IN THE JURY BOX THAT ARE TO BE PUT IN ON A PEDESTAL AND THEN THEY ARE SWITCHED WITH ON CASTERS.

THAT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FROM THE ONSET TO DO OPEN LINES SO EVERYONE COULD RESPOND.

AND THAT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A DESIGN TEAM.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MUNICIPAL PROJECTS, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PUBLIC SECTOR PROJECTS FOR THE CITY, FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ITS AND EVEN FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THAT IS ALWAYS TO ME, A CRITERIA TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS GET THAT SEMBLANCE OF KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IS WHAT YOU EXPECTED TO GET.

THANK YOU. SO JUST RECLAIMING MY TIME, I THINK THAT THE MOST PRUDENT THING TO DO, I THINK, IN LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ'S LEAD, IS TO JUST BRING IT BACK WITH AFTER THE COLLABORATION.

I'M ASSUMING, PATTY, YOU'RE ABOUT DONE WITH THIS EVALUATION.

YOU NOW KNOW WHERE THE MISSING ITEMS ARE SO YOU CAN MEET WITH FACILITIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING.

YES. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE WHAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SAID, THE BEST THING FOR US TO DO IS JUST BRING THIS BACK WITH THE PROPER CAPTIONING IN THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE OF THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

IF IT ISN'T THE LOWEST BIDDER, IS THAT DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY.

OKAY. YES, SIR I DO. ARE YOU ASKING ME I KNOW, NO I'M ASKING PATTY.

OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE THE LOWEST BIDDER.

I'M JUST RECLAIMING MY TIME.

OH, SO I HAVE.

I JUST WANTED TO FINISH REAL QUICK.

I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR.

THERE HAS BEEN AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS TO GET THIS RIGHT.

AND OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE THING FROM HERE TO GO AND JUST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS BETWEEN THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND FACILITIES.

WE DO HAVE ENOUGH TIME, BASED UPON OUR CONSULTANT DEMONSTRATING THAT WE WILL HAVE ABOUT POTENTIALLY UP TO THREE MONTHS.

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SO THAT PUTS US INTO SEPTEMBER.

OCTOBER BUILDING IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED IN DECEMBER, I BELIEVE, OR SET TO OPEN AROUND DECEMBER, JANUARY.

SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COURT STILL TO HAVE THIS IN A TIMELY FASHION.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST A PRESSURE COOKER.

WE JUST WANT TO DO IT RIGHT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE CHANGE ORDERS.

SO I'LL YIELD.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SO DAN, CAN YOU COME FORWARD AGAIN? SO YOU STAND BY. YOU EARN YOUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR GATEWAY PRINTING TO BE THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BID.

CORRECT. I STAND BY OUR RECOMMENDATION.

AND. LARRY.

YES, MA'AM. YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

YOU DIDN'T RECOMMEND FOR THIS TO COME BACK, DID YOU? NO, I DID NOT.

IN FACT. NO, I DID NOT.

YEAH. AND IF WE DO, WE MIGHT GET SUED AGAIN.

CORRECT. PERHAPS.

OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

I STAND BY THE STAFF, OUR STAFF AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO DAN'S TEAM.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR AWARDING A PURCHASE ORDER TO THE LOWEST, MOST RESPONSIVE BID SUBMITTED BY GATEWAY PRINTING AND OFFICE SUPPLY INCORPORATED FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE OFFICE FURNITURE FOR THE PRECINCT FOR SATELLITE OFFICE.

DO I HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING? I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.

OH, WELL. HOLD ON.

IS THERE A NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THING? NO. OKAY, SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR MAKE THAT MOTION.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

POINT OF ORDER BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUDGE LARRY.

IS IT, COMMISSIONER, THE POINT OF ORDER WOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE JUDGE.

OKAY, SURE. WELL I WILL DIRECT IT TO THE JUDGE.

AND JUDGE CAN DIRECT IT TO WHICHEVER STAFF.

I THINK THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE FOR THE FOLKS WHO WERE RESPONSIVE BIDDERS TO ACTUALLY SUE THE COUNTY AS WELL.

SO IT WORKS BOTH WAYS.

WITHOUT THE PROPER NOTIFICATION, IT INCREASES OUR LIABILITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE MOTION TO AN UNRESPONSIVE.

WE'RE ON THE RECORD. THE PURCHASING AGENCY SAID IT'S UNRESPONSIVE.

SO THE OTHER 2 OR 3 WHO WHO ALSO PUT IN COULD SUE.

AND THAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE.

AND THEY HAVE A PROCESS THAT THAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO FOLLOW.

AND THAT'S MY POINT OF ORDER.

I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH RIGHT NOW.

THEN LET ME GO TO COUNCIL.

COUNCIL. CAN YOU ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHAT IS WHAT? THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR? AND THE SECOND, IN THE LIGHT OF THE POINT OF ORDER, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTE AT THIS TIME? JUDGE. SO COMMISSIONER CALVERT POINT OF ORDER IS A PROCEDURAL ISSUE.

HE RAISES A LEGAL ISSUE.

AND ACCORDING TO DAN'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE MOTION WE ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TWO 60 TWO.

SO WE ARE COMPLYING WITH CHAPTER 262.

POINT OF ORDER IS POINT OF ORDER IS OVERRULED.

LET'S CONTINUE DISCUSSION.

OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS.

IF THERE'S NOT A TIME SENSITIVITY HERE, AND BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION BETWEEN STAFF AND NOT GETTING A CLEAR ANSWER HERE TODAY, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF THOSE FOLKS GOT IN ALIGNMENT BEFORE GOING FORWARD.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE.

I'LL SECOND THAT. THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT ON A MOTION TO TABLE.

I'LL ASK FOR A VOTE.

I'LL ASK FOR A VOICE VOTE.

HOLD ON. OKAY, I DO.

WE NOT NEED TO VOTE ON MINE FIRST.

HOW DOES THAT WORK? I THINK I HAVE NOT ON THE TABLE.

NO, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE TABLE FIRST.

OKAY, SO I'LL ASK FOR A VOICE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

WE'RE VOTING ON A MOTION TO TABLE.

NO, I VOTE AGAINST THAT COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ON A MOTION TO TABLE A COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THE CHAIR. VOTES NO.

MOTION TABLES DEFEATED.

LET US NOW MOVE BACK TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE.

I'LL ASK FOR ANOTHER VOICE VOTE, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

NOW WE'RE VOTING ON THE MOTION I MADE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

I VOTE YES.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THE CHAIR VOTES.

AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.

ITEM 55 AUTHORIZATION NEGOTIATE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY AND NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON MENTAL ILLNESS, GREATER SAN ANTONIO.

[55. Authorization to negotiate an American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) agreement between Bexar County and the National Alliance on Mental Illness Greater San Antonio (NAMI-SA) Bridges to Care Youth Program in an amount not to exceed $1,587,979. The purpose of the agreement is to fund preventative mental health education for youth and adults using trauma-informed (TIC) principles and other prevention strategies by working with faith community leaders, youth organizational leaders, parents, and families.]

[56. Authorization to negotiate an American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) agreement between Bexar County and the National Alliance on Mental Illness Greater San Antonio (NAMI-SA), in an amount not to exceed $2,045,000. The purpose of the agreement is to establish a Warmline (non-emergency phone resource), Navigation for services, and Stigma Reduction campaign for individuals seeking information or referral for mental health concerns.]

NAMI SA BRIDGES TO CARE YOUTH PROGRAM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,587,979.

THE PURPOSES OF THE AGREEMENT IS TO FUND PREVENTIVE MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION FOR YOUTH AND ADULTS, USING TRAUMA INFORMED PRINCIPLES AND OTHER PREVENTION STRATEGIES BY WORKING WITH

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FAITH COMMUNITY LEADERS, YOUTH, ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERS, PARENTS, AND FAMILIES.

DOCTOR. DOCTOR GUERRERO, GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

JUDGE I AM DOCTOR ANDREA GUERRERO, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

I'M INTRODUCING THIS AGENDA ITEM.

IT IS TO REQUEST THE AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE TWO CONTRACTS.

AND I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE RELATED TO NAMI.

BUT WE ARE PRESENTING ONE PRESENTATION.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.