4.a. 10:00 a.m.: Presentation discussion and appropriate action regarding the following i. Status update from the Southwest Texas Regional Advisory Council (STRAC) on the Specialized Multidisciplinary Alternate Response Team (SMART) program; (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Andrea Guerrero) ii. Immediately following item 4a(i).: Approval and execution of Agreement between Southwest Texas Regional Advisory Council (STRAC) and Bexar County for the purpose of addressing 9-1-1 mental health related calls more effectively by responding with a trained multidisciplinary team to divert individuals experiencing a mental health crisis away from jail and emergency departments. The term of the agreement is for the period October 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024, for an amount not to exceed $1,335,000; and (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Andrea Guerrero) iii. Immediately following item 4a(ii).: Approval and Execution of the Second Amendment to the American Rescue Plan Act Grant Agreement between Bexar County and the Southwest Texas Regional Advisory Council (STRAC) for a five-year period beginning October 1, 2021, and ending on September 30, 2026, to include a decrease in the amount of $2,750,919 to the STRAC SMART Expansion project for a new total not to exceed amount of $14,222,173; and no change to the High Acuity beds project in the amount of $7,395,000 for a total not to exceed amount of $21,617,171. To include appropriate budgetary transfer. (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Andrea Guerrero)

[4.a. 10:00 a.m.: Presentation discussion and appropriate action regarding the following i. Status update from the Southwest Texas Regional Advisory Council (STRAC) on the Specialized Multidisciplinary Alternate Response Team (SMART) program; (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Andrea Guerrero) ii. Immediately following item 4a(i).: Approval and execution of Agreement between Southwest Texas Regional Advisory Council (STRAC) and Bexar County for the purpose of addressing 9-1-1 mental health related calls more effectively by responding with a trained multidisciplinary team to divert individuals experiencing a mental health crisis away from jail and emergency departments. The term of the agreement is for the period October 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024, for an amount not to exceed $1,335,000; and (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Andrea Guerrero) iii. Immediately following item 4a(ii).: Approval and Execution of the Second Amendment to the American Rescue Plan Act Grant Agreement between Bexar County and the Southwest Texas Regional Advisory Council (STRAC) for a five-year period beginning October 1, 2021, and ending on September 30, 2026, to include a decrease in the amount of $2,750,919 to the STRAC SMART Expansion project for a new total not to exceed amount of $14,222,173; and no change to the High Acuity beds project in the amount of $7,395,000 for a total not to exceed amount of $21,617,171. To include appropriate budgetary transfer. (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (Andrea Guerrero)]

LET US GO TO THE TIME.

CERTAIN PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION, APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ONE STATUS UPDATE FROM THE SOUTHWEST TEXAS REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL ON THE SPECIALIZED MULTIDISCIPLINARY ALTERNATE RESPONSE TEAM SMART PROGRAM.

DOCTOR GUERRERO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.

NOW TIME TO WORK YOUR PROGRAMS. YES, SIR. YOU GOT THE NEXT THREE ITEMS, WILL.

AND THEN I'LL CALL THEM SEPARATELY.

OKAY. GOOD MORNING.

COMMISSIONERS JUDGE.

DOCTOR ANDREA GUERRERO, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

THIS MORNING, WE HAVE INVITED OUR PARTNERS AT STRACK TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AND PRESENTATION ON THE THE SMART TEAM AND SOME WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AT STRACK AND ALSO THE SMART EXPANSION THAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY FUNDED THROUGH ARPA DOLLARS.

WE HAVE ERIC EPLEY, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF STRACK AND KELLY BURNAM, TO, TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THAT PROGRAM.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

I THINK I HAVE SOME. THERE WE GO.

GOT SOME QUICK SLIDES.

I'M ERIC FROM SHREK.

I THINK MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW I WANT TO TAKE A QUICK SECOND TO TALK ABOUT SMART, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO TALK ABOUT STICK.

OVERALL, WE HAVEN'T BEEN HERE AND IT'S PROBABLY BEEN 12 OR 18 MONTHS AND CATCH YOU UP ON A FEW OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING.

SO TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, THE INTEGRATED SYSTEM OF CARE WE'VE DEVELOPED AT THE SOUTH TEXAS CRISIS COLLABORATIVE REALLY IS MADE UP OF THE PEOPLE IN THE TOP LEFT, THE CITY AND COUNTY, THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, METHODIST MINISTRIES AND OTHER PHILANTHROPIC ENTITIES.

AND THEN SOME STATE DOLLARS AS WELL HAVE CREATED THE BULK OF THE FUNDING FOR THE STICK PROJECT.

STRACK IS THE BACKBONE WITH EXECUTING THE VISION AND STRATEGY THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE DEVELOPS.

YOU, OF COURSE, HAVE A STRONG PLACE, A STRONG ROLE ON THAT STEERING COMMITTEE AND DEVELOPING THOSE VARIOUS PROGRAMS. WE HAVE OVER 20 PROGRAMS NOW.

I'M NOT GOING TO TALK, BUT ABOUT FOR ABOUT THREE OF THEM HIGHLIGHT THOSE TODAY.

AND OF NOTE, THE BIG YELLOW BOX IS KIND OF OVER.

ALL OF THAT IS SOMETHING CALLED AN ORGANIZED HEALTH CARE ARRANGEMENT, WHICH IS A HIPAA PROTECTIVE PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION SAFETY PROCESS THAT WE USE THAT ENSURES ALL INFORMATION CAN BE SECURE.

THESE ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE STARTS WITH THE DIFFERENT HEALTH SYSTEMS. THE HOUSING DIRECTOR, THE METRO HEALTH DIRECTOR, FIRE CHIEF SHERIFF, DEPUTY CHIEF THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT MEDICAL DIRECTOR, THE NAMI EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

YOU SEE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT FOLKS AND OF COURSE, THE BEXAR COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR AND OTHER FOLKS FROM THE COUNTY.

THE SMART TEAM.

THE SPECIALIZED MULTIDISCIPLINARY ALTERNATE RESPONSE TEAM HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE OCTOBER OF 20.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, YOU'LL NOTE THAT DISTRICT TWO PROVIDES SOME OF THE PARAMEDICS.

THOSE ARE YOUR YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, PARAMEDICS COMING FROM YOUR DISTRICT.

LAUNCHED IN OCTOBER OF 2020 WITH THE GOALS TO RESPOND TO 911 MENTAL HEALTH CALLS USING THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE METHOD AND APPROACHES TO TREAT THOSE PATIENTS AND CONNECT THOSE PATIENTS TO THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO RESOLVE THAT CRISIS AND PROVIDE WARM HANDOFFS TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF CARE.

RIGHT NOW, THE TEAMS ARE 6 TO 10 TWO TEAMS FROM 6 A.M.

TO 10 P.M. ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY, AND THEN ONE TEAM ON THE WEEKEND.

AND YOU HAVE PROVIDED GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED FUNDING FOR EXPANSION OF THE SMART TEAM, WHICH WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING.

I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEFING ON THAT.

THE TEAM IS MADE UP, OBVIOUSLY, OF SHERIFF'S OFFICERS, PARAMEDIC AND A MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN.

THE SMART EXPANSION RIGHT NOW WE HAVE EIGHT SLOTS FOR THE DEPUTIES.

FIVE OF THOSE ARE FILLED.

WE HAVE FOUR ACADIAN PARAMEDICS THAT ARE NEEDED.

THREE OF THOSE SLOTS ARE FILLED.

WE NEED FOR DISTRICT TWO FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS TO FILL IT.

AND WE HAVE THREE OF THOSE FILLED AND EIGHT RESPONSE CLINICIANS.

SIX OF THOSE ARE FILLED.

AND WE'RE STILL IN SEARCH FOR THE FOUR FOLLOW UP CLINICIANS AS WELL.

IT YOU KNOW, THE BARRIERS TO EXPANSION FOR THAT ARE THIS IS A SPECIALIZED PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE AWARE OF SENATE BILL EIGHT LAST YEAR PASSED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE PROVIDED $22 MILLION ACROSS TEXAS TO TRY TO

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INCREASE EMT AND PARAMEDIC PEOPLE.

THOSE WERE SCHOLARSHIPS TO IMPROVE THAT.

WE HERE AT STRACK HAD OVER 2.2 MILLION.

AND WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY DISTRIBUTED ALMOST ALL OF THAT FUNDING TO TRY TO INCREASE PARAMEDIC NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD.

THIS IS INSIDE THAT BIGGER NUMBER.

WE HAVE TO GET SPECIALIZED MEDICS THAT HAVE THE RIGHT MINDSET TO WANT TO WORK ON THESE KINDS OF CASES.

SO THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE.

JUDGE. I JUST HAD A POINT OF INQUIRY FOR FOR YOU.

ERIC. YEAH. DO YOU KNOW, I KNOW HAVING YOU SERVED IN THE MILITARY AND AS I WAS A PARAMEDIC, WAS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT NOT MILITARY.

OH. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH. WELL, AS YOU AS WE ENTER THE SHERIFF'S SERVICE, THERE COULD BE A TEST TO HELP DETERMINE A PATHWAY FORWARD FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS TO BE QUALIFIED.

ARE YOU ALL RECOMMENDING ANY KIND OF MEASURES, SUCH AS IN THE RECRUITMENT AND CADET TRAINING PROCESS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER? BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL YEARS OF HAVING THIS SMART UNDER STAFFED.

FIRST IT WAS WAGES.

WE RAISED WAGES.

RIGHT. AND NOW IT MAY JUST BE THE GENERAL TIGHT MARKET.

BUT I THINK THAT THE FUTURE OF POLICING IS IN THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF UNIT, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET TO CAPACITY.

SO ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW DO WE GET THE CADETS IN A, IN A SPOT RIGHT AWAY TO LEARN? IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD CONCEPT THAT I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS STARTING FROM A DENOMINATOR.

THE DENOMINATOR IS LOW, RIGHT.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SUBSET GROUP IN THAT WHEN THE DENOMINATOR IS LOW, YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING FROM A LOW POOL.

THE FACT THE LEGISLATURE GAVE US $22 MILLION ACROSS THE STATE TO RAISE THE NUMBER OF PARAMEDICS AND EMTS, IS A SIGN ON HOW LOW THE AVERAGE.

THIS IS A HORRIBLE NUMBER.

THE AVERAGE AGE OF A PARAMEDIC IN THE PANHANDLE RIGHT NOW IS 57 YEARS OLD.

THAT'S THE AVERAGE AGE, SO THERE'S A DEARTH OF SUPPLY.

I THINK LAW ENFORCEMENT SEES THIS OBVIOUSLY.

CERTAINLY THE FIRE AND EMS WORLD SEES THIS.

AND SO HONESTLY, WE'RE KIND OF LUMPED INTO THE SAME PROBLEMS FIRE AND EMS IS EXPERIENCING EVERY DAY AND TRYING TO RECRUIT.

I DO LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT FINDING NOT LIKE THE ASVAB, BUT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF IDENTIFYING WHO MIGHT BE PREDISPOSED TO THESE KINDS OF SPECIALIZED TEAMS, AND WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU.

I'LL ALSO SHARE WITH THE SHERIFF THAT ANY KIND OF LEGISLATION ON A FEDERAL LEVEL THAT ALLOWS OUR MILITARY SOLDIERS TO TRANSITION EASIER INTO THESE SLOTS WOULD BE A VERY SMART THING FOR US.

I KNOW SENATOR, SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS HAD A BILL TO TRY TO GET THE EQUIVALENT SKILL SET OF IN THE MILITARY, APPLIED THROUGH COLLEGES AND OTHER TRAINING, AND WE REALLY NEED TO HELP THEM GET THAT PASSED.

ANYWAY, I'LL LET YOU BRIDGE THE SKILL BRIDGE.

PROGRAMS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD DEAL.

THANK YOU. SMART MADE OVER 1270 CALLS IN 2023.

72% OF THOSE WERE SEEKING SERVICES FROM THE CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.

I THINK THIS HAS HELPED OFFSET A MISNOMER THAT WE HAD THAT THESE WERE GOING TO BE FREQUENT FLIERS, PEOPLE THAT WE WERE ALREADY WELL AWARE OF.

AND THE FACT IS THAT'S ACTUALLY PROVEN NOT TO BE THE CASE.

THESE ARE 911 CALLS WHERE PEOPLE MAY BE IN THEIR FIRST EPISODE OF CRYING OUT FOR CARE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A REAL WIN.

WHEN WE TYPICALLY THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION OF NOTE AS WELL, IT'S 36% OF THOSE RESULTED IN THE TEAM NOT TRANSPORTING THAT INDIVIDUAL AND INSTEAD RESOLVING THE ISSUE ON SCENE SAFELY AND THEN CONNECTING THEM TO FOLLOW UP SERVICES OR SOME OTHER RESOURCE.

AND 25% OF THOSE WERE TRANSPORTED TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE FOR IMMEDIATE CARE.

THERE'S NO DOUBT SOME OF THESE CALLS WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO ARE GOING TO NEED TO GO TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE FOR THEIR CONDITION, BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S ONLY 25%, I THINK, SPEAKS LOUDLY.

I'LL TAKE JUST A FEW SECONDS AND TALK ABOUT TWO OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS. THE FIRST IS LAW ENFORCEMENT NAVIGATION.

THIS WAS THE FIRST PROGRAM WE EVER STARTED, AND BASICALLY IT APPLIES TO SOMEONE WHO'S HAVING A PSYCHOTIC BREAK AT THE WALMART AT 35 AND O'CONNOR, AND THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND IN THE RECORD SECTION AND THEY'RE HAVING A PSYCHOTIC BREAK.

SOMEONE'S GOING TO CALL 911 TODAY THAT THAT CALL IS ASSIGNED TO EITHER A SHERIFF'S OFFICER OR A POLICE OFFICER. AND OUR, OUR COMM CENTER, MEDCOM IS ADDED TO THAT CALL AND STARTS TYPING WITH STARTS TEXTING WITH THAT OFFICER WHILE HE'S RESPONDING TO THE CALL.

IT TELLS HIM WHEN HE ARRIVES.

THIS TURNS THIS MENTAL HEALTH CALL TURNS INTO AN EMERGENCY DETENTION.

GIVE US A CALL AT MEDCOM FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT NAVIGATION.

THE OFFICER WILL GET THERE.

TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION.

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BRING HIM OUT. DO AN ASSESSMENT.

HE CALLS MEDCOM.

WE DO A SERIES OF BATTERY OF QUESTIONS TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE BEST LOCATION.

AND THEN WE NAVIGATE HIM TO THE CLOSEST, MOST APPROPRIATE PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY FOR HIS CARE.

AND THEN WE CALL THE PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY, LET THEM KNOW THE OFFICER IS IN ROUTE.

AND OF NOTE, THAT'S HAPPENING BETWEEN 1300 AND 1400 TIMES A MONTH.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.

ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE'VE DONE WELL WITH THE CRISIS COLLABORATIVE IS TO CRITICALLY LOOK AT THE DOLLARS AND WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS.

THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN IT'S MONETARY.

THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT MAY BE GETTING THE PATIENT TO THE RIGHT PLACE VERSUS THE WRONG PLACE.

THAT MAY BE THE WIN, BUT IT'S REALLY GREAT WHEN WE GET THE PATIENT TO THE RIGHT PLACE AND WE END UP SEEING THAT THERE'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FINANCIALLY AS WELL.

AND THESE NUMBERS BEAR OUT HERE.

18,537 LAW ENFORCEMENT DETENTIONS IN EMERGENCY DETENTIONS IN 2023, 67% OF THOSE LABS WENT DIRECTLY TO A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITY, AND ONLY 0.3 OF THOSE LABS ENDED UP GOING TO JAIL.

THAT'S A PHENOMENAL NUMBER.

AND JAIL DIVERSION, SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY, REALLY WE THINK THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS APPROPRIATE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT THAT HAPPEN.

REDUCTION IN EMERGENCY ROOM EXPENSES, BECAUSE THE PATIENTS GOING TO THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

I THINK YOU GUYS REMEMBER IN THE OLD DAYS BEFORE WE WERE DOING THIS PROGRAM, THAT THAT PATIENT MIGHT BE TRANSPORTED BY THE POLICE TO NORTHEAST BAPTIST OR NORTHEAST METHODIST AND BE STUCK THERE FOR 80, 90, 100 HOURS BEFORE THEY COULD GET THAT PATIENT TRANSFERRED TO A PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY TO START THEIR CARE.

THAT'S THAT'S THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER PROCESS GETTING THE PATIENT.

WE TAKE TRAUMA PATIENTS TO THE TRAUMA CENTER.

WE TAKE STROKE PATIENTS TO THE STROKE CENTER.

AND YOU KNOW, BY GOD, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY EMERGENCY MEDICAL CONDITIONS, IT'S IT'S A PSYCHIATRIC ISSUE.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE PSYCH PATIENTS TO A PSYCH CENTER.

IT JUST KIND OF MAKES SENSE.

THAT'S WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PATIENT.

OF NOTE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT SLIDE, THERE HAVE BEEN 69,000 LNAV SINCE WE FIRST STARTED.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DOLLARS SAVED IT'S ON AVERAGE ABOUT $6 MILLION IN COSTS TO THE HOSPITALS.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PARTICIPATING AND CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THIS SO STRONGLY WITH THE TOTAL PROGRAM REDUCTION OVER 34 MILLION.

AND THEN ON THE TRANSPORTS FOR AMBULANCES, REMEMBER, IF THEY'D GONE TO AN E.R.

AND THEN HAVE TO BE TRANSFERRED TO A PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY, AN AMBULANCE HAS TO BE UTILIZED FOR THAT.

JUST AVOIDING THE AMBULANCE TRANSFERS.

WE SAVE $3 MILLION A YEAR.

I MEAN, IT'S A PHENOMENAL THING.

IT'S IT'S GREAT WHEN WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND WE'RE SAVING DOLLARS AT THAT AT THAT EFFORT.

I WANT TO TALK QUICKLY ABOUT THE PICC TEAM, THE PROGRAM FOR INTENSIVE CARE COORDINATION.

THIS PROGRAM LAUNCHED IN 2019, AND IT PROVIDES ONGOING INTENSIVE CARE CASE MANAGEMENT FOR CITIZENS WITH MULTIPLE EMERGENCY DETENTIONS.

SO WE BASICALLY PICKED PEOPLE WHO HAD THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF EMERGENCY DETENTIONS IN OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM.

TAKE A LOOK AT THAT 18,000 AND SAY WHO'S WHO'S THE MOST FREQUENT? WE PICK THE TOP 100 OF THEM AND WE REALLY WE GET AFTER THAT GROUP TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN WE CAN BREAK THEIR CYCLE.

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAD THE DEFINITION TO GET INTO.

THE PROGRAM WAS MORE THAN SIX PER YEAR, MORE THAN SIX EMERGENCY DETENTIONS PER YEAR.

WHEN WE SORTED IT OUT BY HIGHEST USERS, THE TOP 100 ARE IN THE LIKE 23 PER YEAR.

I MEAN, IF YOU JUST THAT'S LIKE ONE EVERY OTHER ONE EVERY OTHER WEEK.

IT'S IT'S REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THESE FOLKS.

SO WE WANT TO FIND THEM.

WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM.

WE WANT TO GET THEM THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS, GET THEM CONNECTED TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, ETC.

AND WE THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE UBER HIGH UTILIZERS.

HERE'S HERE'S JUST ONE HERE.

THIS THIS IS THE KIND OF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO 911 CALLS.

THESE GUYS ARE DRIVING AROUND WORKING THESE CASES ACTIVELY.

RIGHT. SO A PATIENT PROFILE THIS IS JUST A TYPICAL PICC PATIENT A 50 YEAR OLD GUY SCHIZOAFFECTIVE BIPOLAR TYPE TWO DIABETES.

SO COMMON.

WE'LL SEE HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WITH THESE TYPES OF PATIENTS.

HE'S ADDED TO THE PROGRAM.

OH LORD. HE'S ADDED TO THE PROGRAM IN FEBRUARY OF 21.

IN APRIL HE GETS AN EMERGENCY DETENTION.

WE GET HIM TO HIS MONTHLY PROVIDER APPOINTMENT WITH OUR PICC.

WE HAVE A PHYSICIAN. WE HAVE A PSYCHIATRIST THAT WORKS WITH THE TEAM.

GET HIM INTO HIS APPOINTMENT.

HE HAS ANOTHER EMERGENCY ATTENTION.

A MONTH LATER, WE COMPLETE HIS INTAKE INTO GCS.

HE'S COMPLETELY INTEGRATED INTO THE SYSTEM NOW IN JUNE.

OKAY. IT GOES TO ANOTHER MONTHLY PROVIDER, HAS A SLIP UP THERE.

HE HAS AN EMERGENCY DETENTION.

WE BEGIN TO MANAGE THE CLIENT'S MONEY BECAUSE HE'S UNABLE TO DO THAT FOR HIMSELF.

WE PROVIDE MONTHLY PROVIDER APPOINTMENTS, MOVED HIM INTO A GROUP HOME.

THEN YOU JUST SEE CONSISTENTLY HE'S GETTING BETTER AND BETTER.

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NOW, IF YOU NOTICE, RIGHT AFTER SEPTEMBER HE DIDN'T HAVE AN EMERGENCY DETENTION.

HE ACTUALLY UTILIZED THE CRISIS LINE.

THAT'S AN EARLIER INTERVENTION.

HE'S HE'S RECOGNIZING, HEY, I'M STARTING TO I'M STARTING TO NOT DO SO WELL.

I HAVE THIS NUMBER AVAILABLE.

I KNOW ABOUT THIS NUMBER.

SO HE DOESN'T DETERIORATE, MOVES FROM HOME, MOVES HOME WITH HIS FAMILY.

THEY GET HIM SET UP WITH A FOOD CHARITY.

THEY TRANSITION FROM PICC INTO A LONG TERM MENTAL HEALTH LEVEL OF CARE THAT HE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE OBTAIN HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE THROUGH THE IDD RECOVERY PROCESS.

AND THEN HE DOES HIS MONTHLY PROVIDERS.

AND THIS GUY IS, YOU KNOW, RETURNING BACK TO SOCIETY IN A WAY THAT CAN BE MEANINGFUL FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY.

THIS IS THE CLASSIC PICC STORY, BUT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE MONEY WE WANT TO ALSO LOOK AT.

SO THERE'S THE PICTURE ON THE HUMAN SIDE OF THIS.

WHAT ABOUT THE FISCAL SIDE.

SO WE EVALUATE THESE PROGRAMS AND WE LOOKED AT OUR ER VISITS PRE PICK.

ON AVERAGE THOSE PATIENTS HAD 87.98 PER YEAR POST PICK BEING IN THE TEAM TWO EMERGENCY TWO ER VISITS PER YEAR FROM EIGHT TO.

TWO. THAT'S ALMOST SIX.

VISIT DROP SAVINGS OF $781,000.

THEIR EMERGENCY DETENTIONS DROPPED FROM 8.85 TO 1.2 WITH A SAVING, YOU KNOW, LESS EMERGENCY DETENTIONS BY 7.6 WITH A SAVINGS OF ALMOST $2 MILLION.

PEASANT COUNTERS POINT SIX THAT DROPPED TO POINT TWO, AND THEN INPATIENT ADMISSIONS DROPPED FROM FOUR TO ABOUT THREE WITH THE SAVINGS OF 1.7 MILLION ANNUALLY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL EFFICIENCIES, THE COST SAVINGS IS 4.5 MILLION AND THE PROGRAM IS ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF A YEAR.

THAT'S A NET EFFICIENCIES OF $3 MILLION.

SO IT'S THIS IS WHEN WE'RE TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE THE RIGHT WAY, BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING THAT IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE MANNER.

MY POINT TO THAT IS YOU SEE THESE STICK ITEMS COMING UP ON THE BUDGET A LOT.

YOU SEE THEM, I'M SURE YOU DO.

THEY'RE ARPA DOLLARS AND OTHER THINGS.

YOU'RE LIKE, MAN, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY OVER THERE.

WHAT I WANT YOU TO SEE THAT IT'S PENNIES FOR DOLLARS.

THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THESE PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WE'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD FISCAL, RESPONSIBLE PARTNERS WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S IT.

I WAS TOLD TEN MINUTES. I THINK I BUSTED THAT BY A MINUTE.

SORRY. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LONG DAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE THE TRACK TEAM AND THE SMART TEAM.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THIS HERE AT THE COUNTY AND SOMETIMES THE GOOD WORK THAT WE DO, WE TAKE FOR GRANTED.

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH.

UNTIL WE TALK TO OTHER COLLEAGUES, OTHER COMMISSIONERS OTHER MENTAL HEALTH ADVOCATES AND OTHER COUNTIES AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND REALIZE THAT A LOT OF THE COUNTIES IN TEXAS, A LOT OF THE OTHER LARGE CITIES DON'T HAVE THEIR VERSION OF TRACK, DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE A SMART TYPE PROGRAM.

SO THIS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT.

AND JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO ADVOCATING FOR MORE FUNDING FOR, FOR THESE PROGRAMS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE ERIC, THANKS FOR THE REPORT.

I KNOW WHEN WE DO THESE THINGS, WE ASK YOU TO BE SUCCINCT AND USUALLY COMPLY.

BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

AND I GUESS JUST A A REQUEST.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE SLIDES YOU REFERENCED THE 1270 CALLS FOR SMART.

THE SMART CALLS. YEAH. SORRY.

ARE THOSE BROKEN DOWN BY CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? SUBURBAN CITIES? THOSE ARE JUST SMART.

THAT'S JUST SMART. THAT'S JUST SMART.

OKAY, SMART IS JUST COUNTY.

JUST COUNTY. YEP.

UNINCORPORATED. THAT'S CORRECT.

BEXAR COUNTY, THAT'S IT. YEAH. THE THE PD IS CORE.

RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE THIS WAS JUST A REPORT ON SMART FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

OKAY. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME DEBRIEFING OFFLINE AND THEN MAYBE POTENTIALLY SOME REPORT TO THE COURT IS, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME VERY TOUGH DECISIONS IN THE COMING YEARS, MONTHS WITH RESPECT TO ARPA DOLLARS AND THOSE FUNDS RUNNING OUT AND HOW WE CONTINUE WORTHWHILE PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.

IN FACT, A LOT OF WORTHWHILE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE INVESTED ARPA DOLLARS IN.

WHEN THAT MONEY RUNS OUT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT.

SO I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS YOU KNOW, KIND OF YEAR OVER YEAR DATA COMPARISONS.

OKAY. JUST YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY TOO SOON TO MEASURE OUTCOMES, BUT ANY ANY SUBSTANTIVE INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE SO THAT IT CAN HELP INFORM HOW WE MAKE THAT DECISION, WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW, KEEPING THINGS IN PLACE, OR MAYBE IT'S MOVING RESOURCES AROUND TO BE MORE

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IMPACTFUL. BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SEE AT SOME POINT TO REALLY MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS ON, ON INVESTING THESE DOLLARS.

SO FULLY AGREE.

YEAH. AND I HEAR IT.

WE'LL GET IT DONE. OKAY.

WE'LL GET AFTER THAT. I WILL TELL YOU.

I WANT TO THANK SHERIFF SALAZAR THEY'VE APPROVED AND WE'VE GOT IN PLACE OR ABOUT THE LAST, LAST LITTLE PIECES OF THE IT PART TO HAVE THE FEED THE DATA FEED, WHICH WILL HELP US GET A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT, LIKE, YOUR SPECIFIC DISTRICTS, LIKE WHICH CALL IS WHERE WE CAN SHOW EAST WEST RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT GRANULAR DATA FEED THAT HE'S APPROVED.

AND THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE.

WE'LL HAVE A MUCH RICHER DATA SET WITH RESPECT TO SMART IN THE IN THE COMING MONTHS.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT OKAY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU ERIC, AND THANK YOU TO YOUR YOUR TEAM AND DOCTOR G, THE REST OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE INVOLVED, BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS A A TEAM EFFORT.

SO I CAN'T I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE TAKE TOO MUCH OF THE CREDIT.

KELLY KELLY BURNHAM IS BACK THERE.

SHE'S OUR DIVISION DIRECTOR FOR STICK.

AND IF THERE'S EVER A CASE FOR SHOW PONY AND WORKHORSE, THAT'S THAT'S IT.

KELLY'S THE. KELLY'S GETTING THE WORK DONE.

I'M. JUST THE ONE THAT GETS TO TALK ABOUT IT.

TAKE THE PRAISE. WELL, WE ALL HAVE THOSE IN OUR LIVES THAT THAT DO MOST OF THE HEAVY LIFTING AND THEN WE TAKE THE CREDIT.

SO KELLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR DOING THAT AND FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN A LOT OF FOLKS LIVES HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

SO WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. JUDGE.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, THANK YOU, JUDGE.

AND THANK YOU ERIC, FOR BEING HERE AND PRESENTING ON THIS.

I LOVE HOW YOU FRAME THE THE ARGUMENT HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY PATIENTS.

WE'RE PROVIDING BETTER CARE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE DOING IT IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE MANNER THAT'S ACTUALLY HELPING SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY.

AND IN A LOT OF REGARDS.

SO I THINK THAT'S A WIN WIN FOR EVERYONE.

I DO WANT TO YOU KNOW, ALSO KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ THINK ABOUT THE FUNDING TODAY VERSUS IN THE FUTURE.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS HERE THAT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO SOME ACTUAL REQUESTS, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD, I THINK, TO, TO FULLY GRASP THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT REQUESTS FOR MONEY.

AND ARE WE ASKING FOR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS? ARE WE ASKING FOR ARPA DOLLARS, ARPA DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TODAY? ARE THEY THROUGH THE END OF THE FY OR ARE THEY THROUGH THE END OF 26? RIGHT. SO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS LATER TODAY ON, ON SOME OF THE ARPA REPROGRAMING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL MENTION IT NOW AS WELL.

I THINK THAT IF WE IDENTIFY THESE PROGRAMS THAT WORK REALLY WELL, THAT HAVE AN ROI FOR THE COUNTY YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE NOT BE THINKING ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE FUND THOSE WITH ARPA DOLLARS THROUGH THE END OF THE THE PERIOD 2026? THAT'S CORRECT.

RATHER THAN IDENTIFYING NEW SPENDING PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY ONLY LAST A YEAR.

AND WE'RE KIND OF ADDING TO THAT DIFFICULT CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE.

SURE. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IN AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE OTHER TWO ITEMS AND THE FUNDING BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND GROUPS.

THE STICK, THERE'S AN ITEM 55 THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT JUST ALSO WANT TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS IT RELATES TO THESE OTHER TWO FUNDING REQUESTS HERE TODAY.

OKAY. BUT THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'S I'M SURE.

AND FOR THE RECORD, I'M LARGELY AGNOSTIC TO THE COLOR OF MONEY AS IT COMES.

YOU KNOW, THE VALUE OF, I THINK THE STEERING COMMITTEE OVERALL, WHETHER IT'S BEEN THE HEALTH SYSTEM, CEOS, OUR EXPERTS IN THE COUNTY OR THE CITY, IS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GO, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

I AM LARGELY AGNOSTIC TO THE THEY PUT THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER.

HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST? WE'LL GO FIND THE MONEY.

AND EACH GROUP KIND OF GOES AND PITCHES IN AND FINDS THOSE THINGS.

SO YEAH LOOKING AT I BECOME I LIKE YOURSELF AM CONCERNED.

AND OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING FROM THE DAY WE STARTED WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT ARPA RUNS OUT IN 26, WHICH FEELS LIKE TOMORROW TO ME.

AND SO THE SOONER WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, TO SOLIDIFY THESE PROGRAMS. SO WE'VE, WE'VE STARTED FROM THE BEGINNING WITH THE ABILITY TO PROVE IS THERE VALUE OR NOT.

AND THEN THAT'S THAT'S A JUDGMENT.

YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE BALANCING A LOT OF OTHER PRIORITIES AS WELL, WHICH WE FULLY RECOGNIZE.

BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO, I THINK A FULL THROATED RESPONSE WHEN THAT TIME COMES AND THEN YOU KNOW, THE PRIORITIES THAT'S YOU GET YOU GUYS GET PAID A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS. SO.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO END WITH THANK YOU FOR BRINGING DATA TO THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

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WHEN WE HAVE THESE DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE NET IMPACT TO THE COUNTY, A BUDGET, WHAT WE'RE SAVING VERSUS WHAT WE'RE FUNDING.

AND SO DEFINITELY HAVING THAT DATA AND THAT ANALYSIS MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO HAVE THOSE DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU, ERIC AND YOUR TEAM EVERYONE GATHERED BEHIND YOU.

YOU'VE BEEN STANDING A LONG TIME.

THOSE OF YOU BEHIND YOU.

SO LET ME JUST SAY THAT YOUR EFFORT TO CONVENE AS A LEADER OF THE HOSPITALS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR IS THIS DATA.

BUT I RECOGNIZE WE'RE NOT QUITE FIRING ON ALL PISTONS BECAUSE WE ARE SHORT ON LABOR IN THIS REGARD.

WE COULD BE SAVING MORE MONEY IF WE WERE MORE STAFFED, AND IF WE COULD GO TO 24 HOURS.

AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SUBSTANCE USE AND CALLS AFTER 10 P.M., WHICH IS A HOT BED OF THAT ACTIVITY, SURE.

WE COULD BE SAVING EVEN MORE.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, AS A CONVENER IS TO PERHAPS HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS ABOUT WHETHER THEY.

MIGHT, THROUGH THEIR CHARITABLE GIVING, PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE PAY FOR OFFICERS TO GET TRAINING WITH AND PARAMEDICS IN THIS PARTICULAR FIELD.

YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND, 2000, YOU KNOW, $5,000 BONUS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

IT WOULD BE DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR THE SAVINGS TO THE HOSPITAL SYSTEM.

SO I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT TO HELP US REV THE ENGINE EVEN MORE FOR MORE SAVINGS.

AND I THINK THAT THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE A CONVENING A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU MAY NORMALLY DO, BUT YOU'RE IN A GREAT POSITION TO DO IT, TO LOOK UPSTREAM. LAST NIGHT I SPOKE WITH THE CEO OF THE CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES, AND SHE SAID THE TOP THING THAT PEOPLE COMING FROM MENTAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES NEED WHEN WE SEE THEM IS HOUSING AND FOOD ASSISTANCE.

AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE HOSPITALS, STRAC, THE PHILANTHROPISTS, THE BANKS WHO HAVE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE FEDERAL LAW COME TOGETHER AND I'LL HELP YOU KNOW YOU WITH THAT ENDEAVOR.

BUT IF WE COME TOGETHER TO SAY, CAN WE FILL A GAP OF HOUSING FOOD INSECURITY BECAUSE THOSE ARE CAUSING A LOT OF EPISODES.

AND THE FOLKS IN THE STRESSORS THAT ARE CAUSING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THAT ARE CAUSING ALL KINDS OF MENTAL HEALTH BREAKDOWNS I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WILL, AS WE LOOK TO THESE YEARS, FURTHER OUT WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT.

IF WE HAVE A TRIAGE POLICY THAT STRATEGIC UPSTREAM, YOU WILL HAVE LESS PEOPLE COMING TO YOU BECAUSE THERE'S PLENTY OF DATA THAT SAYS WHEN PEOPLE ARE HOUSED, THEIR HEALTH CARE OUTCOMES AND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH CARE OUTCOMES ARE BETTER.

SO I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.

SO, SO, COMMISSIONER CALVERT NUMBER ONE ON THE FIRST ITEM, WE HAVE EVEN LOOKED AT BRIDGE PROGRAMS FROM SOME OF THE PARAMEDICS WHO WERE GETTING LONG IN THE TOOTH, WHO MAY BE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OLDER AND TIRED OF CARRYING PEOPLE DOWN THREE FLIGHTS OF STAIRS.

AND IS THERE A BRIDGE PROGRAM MORE TO A MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE FIELD EXPERIENCE.

IT'S ODD. WE BRING IN A MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN.

WE SPEND WE HAVE KIND OF A I DON'T CALL IT A BOOT CAMP, BUT WE HAVE KIND OF A BOOT CAMP FOR THEM TO TRAIN UP THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE FIELD.

NOW, THIS IS A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT.

HERE'S THINGS TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

IF WE WENT THE OTHER WAY AND TOOK EXPERIENCED PARAMEDICS, THEY WOULD HAVE THE PARAMEDIC KNOWLEDGE AND WE'D BE TEACHING THEM THE MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN SKILLS THEY MIGHT NEED.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING INTO AS WELL.

AND ON THE SECOND THING, WE HAVE A SMALL GROUP THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON WHAT ARE THE NEXT PIPELINES OF FUNDING THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS ISSUED? THE LEGISLATURE HAS POURED LITERALLY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND THEY'RE COMING OUT IN DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. OKAY. AND WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH UP WHAT IS THAT PROGRAM LIST THAT IT COULD BE FOR, AND WHERE COULD WE PLUG IT IN? AND ONE OF THEM WE JUST WORKED ON AND FULLY I SUPPORTED IT WITH A LETTER OF SUPPORT IS FOR TOWN TWIN FOR PUBLIC SUPPORT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

AND I KNOW JILLIAN IS ALREADY AND UNIVERSITY HEALTH ALREADY HAS A PLAN TO HAVE CLINICAL CAPABILITIES ON THAT PROPERTY.

SO IT'S FRONT AND CENTER IN OUR MINDS OF A PENNY OF PREVENTION VERSUS A POUND OF CURE.

AND WE HEAR YOU ON WORKING ON PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

THOSE THINGS. WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE.

I'VE BEEN NERVOUS.

I WILL TELL YOU AS THE REMEMBER, WE'RE THE TRAUMA AND EMS SYSTEM AND WE KIND OF GOT PULLED INTO THIS CRISIS MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM.

I DON'T KNOW A THING ABOUT HOUSING.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WENT TO LIKE HOUSING COLLEGE OR, YOU KNOW, HOUSING IS A DIFFERENT WORLD.

IT REALLY IS ITS OWN PROFESSION.

WHAT WE'VE TOLD OUR HOUSING COLLEAGUES, WE'RE HERE TO BE THE S OF PSH, WE'RE HERE TO BE.

IF YOU CAN GET PERMANENT AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WE'LL HELP WITH THE SUPPORTIVE AND WE'LL HELP WITH ANY LETTERS THAT WE CAN HELP WITH OR ANYTHING YOU NEED.

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BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE THE HOUSING PEOPLE ALL GO, WE'RE SO GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

AND THE FEDERAL CONTRACTS AND THE THINGS I'M LIKE, I KNOW.

YEAH. SO YEAH, WE'LL DO OUR PART.

WE I'M COUNTING ON THEM ALSO TO DO THEIRS AND WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM.

THE FINAL THING I'LL SAY I WOULDN'T THE ROLE FOR STRACH IS NOT TO ADMINISTRATE A HOUSING PROGRAM.

IT'S TO CONVENE AND BRING THE BRING THE, THE LEADERS FROM HOUSING, FROM PHILANTHROPY, FROM BANKING TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THE STATS BECAUSE THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, WHEN THEY DID DO TRAINING FOR COMMISSIONERS THEY ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN PSYCHIATRISTS AND MDS TO GIVE THE DATA THAT HOUSING IMPROVES MENTAL HEALTH AND OTHER HEALTH CARE ELEMENTS.

AND WHEN I CONNECTED THE DOTS LOCALLY WITH OUR CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES CEO, SAYING, THAT'S THE THING THEY WALK IN THE DOOR NEEDING THE MOST THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIDGE.

THE OTHER THING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE NEXT YEAR THAT WE MEET IS TO BEGIN.

TO THINK ABOUT WHEN GILBERT BROUGHT THIS ORIGINALLY TO US.

WE MODELED AFTER THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM, AND SO THE CAHOOTS PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND A LOT LONGER THAN OUR OUR PROGRAM, AND IT HAS EXPANDED THE AMOUNT OF OFFENSES FOR WHICH IT RESPONDS.

AND THERE IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY TAKE EVERY ONE OF THEM, BUT I THINK THERE PROBABLY IS ROOM FOR US TO GROW THE KINDS OF OFFENSES THAT ARE DEEMED A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.

SO I DO WOULD I WOULD LIKE YOUR GROUP'S RECOMMENDATIONS BASED UPON YOUR CALLS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD EXPAND THE KIND OF CALLS THAT MAY REQUIRE THAT.

AND AND THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE TALKS OF THE JUDICIARY AS WELL AS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OTHERS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

I GOT A POINT OF ORDER, DOCTOR G.

COME COME UP HERE.

I DON'T WANT WE'RE HAVING A ROBUST DISCUSSION, BUT I'LL BE REAL BLUNT.

WE'VE GOT A BUSY DAY, SO CAN YOU AS A POINT OF ORDER, OR ARE WE GOING TO TAKE UP ALL THREE AT ONE TIME? WOULD THAT BE THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF TIME? DO WE NEED TO TAKE UP? PERHAPS I NEED COUNSEL.

LEGAL COUNSEL? WHAT ACTION ITEMS DO YOU NEED? CAN WE TAKE THEM UP AS ONE? DO WE NEED IT SEPARATE? SO JUST TO CLARIFY THE THE RECOMMENDATION UNDER ITEM A TWO IS THE APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT WITH STRIKE TO COVER. WHAT IS THE GENERAL FUND CONTRACT TO SUPPORT THE SMART TEAM, WHICH IS JUST THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 9 TO 5 REGULAR HOURS.

AND WHAT ABOUT THREE? A THREE IS TO APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO ARPA FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE SMART TEAM.

THAT EXPANSION, AS ERIC POINTED OUT, HAS NOT GONE ACCORDING TO PLAN.

AND SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH A DIFFERENT ACTION PLAN TO ACHIEVE THAT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THE ARPA OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO RECALL 2.2 $2,750,919.

I'VE GOT TO CUT YOU OFF. IS IT ALL WRAPPED TOGETHER? CAN WE TAKE IT TOGETHER, OR DO WE HAVE TO BREAK IT FOR PURPOSE? I'LL BE REAL BLUNT. I'M NOT REAL HAPPY WITH THIS AGENDA.

SO TELL TELL ME.

WE GOT THREE THINGS. ONE THING LET'S JUDGE I WANTED, OTHERWISE WE'LL BE TALKING ALL DAY.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I'LL TALK TO ERIC EPLEY ALL THE TIME.

FOR SIMPLICITY. JUDGE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESS TODAY.

CAN YOU JUST TAKE ITEMS TWO AND THREE SEPARATELY? BECAUSE THEY ARE SEPARATE ITEMS. AND IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO WITH ONE? IS THERE ANY ACTION ITEM ON ONE? NO, IT IS JUST THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY I'LL MOVE IT ALONG.

JUDGE I'LL MOVE.

APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN SOUTH TEXAS REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THE BURKE AND BEXAR COUNTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADDRESSING 911 MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CALLS, AND MORE EFFECTIVELY RESPONDING WITH A TRAINED MULTIPLE MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,335,000.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, FIRST, BEFORE BEFORE WE DO THAT, I NEED TO CALL IT THAT.

WASN'T THAT WASN'T THE AGENDA ITEM WE WERE DISCUSSING.

WE WERE ON A ONE.

AGAIN, PURPOSE OF CLARITY.

WE'RE NOW ON A TWO.

BEFORE WE TAKE THE MOTION, LET ME CALL IT UP.

APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN SOUTHWEST TEXAS REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL AND BEXAR COUNTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADDRESSING 911 MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CALLS MORE EFFECTIVELY BY RESPONDING WITH A TRAINED, MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM TO DIVERT INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AWAY FROM JAIL AND EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS.

THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT IS FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2023 TO SEPTEMBER 20TH 30TH, 2024, FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 1,000,330

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$500,000. AND AND WE'LL PAUSE THERE.

THERE'S A MOTION BY MR. CALVERT. SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SO JUST JUST TO CLARIFY ON AGAIN, THIS IS ITEM FOUR, A SUB TWO.

SO THIS IS THE THE CALLS THAT WOULD ENTAIL EXPANDING THE, THE HOURS.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT, IS THAT THE SEPARATE ITEM.

NO. OKAY. TWO IS THE GENERAL FUND CONTRACT THAT SUPPORTS THE REGULAR OPERATION OF THE SMART TEAM FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8 TO 5 FIRST SHIFT.

OKAY. YES, COMMISSIONER.

YES. GO AHEAD.

YOU MAY RECALL WE FIRST STARTED FUNDING SMART AS A PILOT.

I REMEMBER USE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO DO THAT.

THIS CONTINUES THE LIMITED SMART PROGRAM, WHEREAS THE NEXT ITEM UNDER ARPA WAS WHAT YOU FUNDED TO EXPAND IT TO 24 SEVEN.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO THIS IS NOT THIS IS THE CONTINUING THE NORMAL MONDAY.

DAY THROUGH FRIDAY OPERATIONS.

YES. GOT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

JUDGE. LET ME KNOW I GOT I HOPEFULLY I HAVEN'T GOT AHEAD OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO DOCTOR G WE'RE NOW CONSIDERING A TWO WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE A PRESENTATION OR COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE? NO. THE PRESENTATION COVERED BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. AND ERIC, WERE YOU PART OF THAT PRESENTATION AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO HELP CLARIFY? I REALLY WANT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC, LET'S PARCEL THIS OUT.

WE SPENT 30 MINUTES ON A ONE WHICH WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION ON.

CORRECT. WE'RE NOW ON A TWO FOR THE APPROVAL OF 1,303,000 $500,000 TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAMS AS WHAT DAVID SMITH PUT ON MOTION MR. CALVERT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION OR PRESENTATION YOU WANT TO MAKE ON THAT PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? YES, SIR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FURTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

OKAY, SO THE $1.3 MILLION IS TO CONTINUE THE PILOT PROGRAM THROUGH THE REST OF THIS FY.

OKAY. AND I'M NOT SURE IF, IF, IF WE'RE TAKING THESE TOGETHER OR SEPARATELY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THEN THE $2.7 MILLION REDUCTION THAT'S IN THE NEXT ITEM.

WHAT IS THAT IN RELATION TO.

IT'S PRIMARILY DUE.

WELL, THEY CAN ANSWER.

IT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO VACANCIES THAT WERE NOT IMMEDIATELY FILLED.

OKAY. SO IN ERIC'S PRESENTATION AND MAYBE WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE.

HE TALKED ABOUT THE UNDERSTAFFING OF PARAMEDICS, CLINICIANS AND SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES THROUGHOUT THIS EXPANSION TIME.

THOSE STAFFS, THEY HAVE BEEN UNDERSTAFFED IN ONE OR THE THREE OF THOSE AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WHICH LED TO SOME UNDERSPEND IN THE BUDGET.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE 2.7 MILLION UNDERSPEND COMES FROM THE SALARY SAVINGS.

WE SHOULD BE 24 SEVEN RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN. AND THOSE SALARY SAVINGS ARE WHAT THAT IS AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

OKAY. UNDERSTAND I GUESS THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THIS 1.3 MILLION COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, COULD THAT NOT COME FROM ARPA DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TODAY? I WOULD ASSUME SO, BUT I'M NOT THE ARPA EXPERT, SO.

THOMAS. YES.

I MEAN, YOU COULD.

COMMISSIONER, YOU COULD COVER THAT FUNDING THROUGH YOUR UNALLOCATED AND THE CLAWBACK.

WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TODAY OR WHETHER, YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FY 25 AND 26.

GO AHEAD. ERIC. I THINK JUST BASED ON THE ARPA IS REALLY COMPLICATED.

IT GOES THROUGH A WHOLE SEPARATE AUDIT OR NOT AUDIT, BUT APPROVAL PROCESS.

IF WE COULD APPROVE THIS TODAY AND SHOOT FOR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN SIX MONTHS FOR THE FY 25, TAKE IT IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE IT OUT OF GR, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND PUT IT ALL ON ARPA.

I THINK THE ARPA TEAM WOULD APPROVE IT PRETTY EASILY FOR 25 BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A NATURAL EVOLUTION.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, BUT IF WE TRY TO DO THAT MID-YEAR, IT'S LIKE A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE COMPLICATED.

AND CANDIDLY THERE'S THERE'S BEEN OCCASIONALLY SOME DELAYS TO THOSE DOLLARS.

AND SO IF WE IF WE JUST APPROVE RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD BE AND THEN WE'LL SHOOT FOR MOVING THE SAVINGS FROM THE ARPA SALARY SAVINGS FOR COVERING THE GR PART FOR 2526.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLAN.

OKAY. NO, I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO WE COULD GO FORWARD TODAY.

I CAN I CAN SUPPORT THAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO USE ARPA DOLLARS GOING FORWARD.

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BECAUSE WE DO HAVE RETURNED FUNDS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR HIGH VALUE PROGRAMS THAT THAT HAVE AN ROI, AND THIS LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THEM.

AND CANDIDLY, THAT'S HER.

THAT'S THESE ARE MY DOLLARS.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

I'M AGNOSTIC TO THE COLOR OF THE MONEY.

AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, AND I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A LOGISTICS PERSPECTIVE AS OPPOSED TO A YEAH, PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION OF WHERE THOSE DOLLARS SHOULD COME FROM.

BUT IF WE COULD DO THAT. AGREE.

UNDERSTAND. WELL, HOPEFULLY THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF CAN LOOK AT AND BRING BACK.

AND WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION HERE OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. YEAH.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. I HATE TO MUDDY THE WATER HERE, BUT LET ME JUST CLARIFY.

AND IF I, I MIGHT BE CONFUSING TWO AND THREE, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET RIGHT IN MY MIND IS THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT ABOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HELPING WITH THE CALLS OR WE WE'RE GOING TO CONTRACT WITH THEM.

IS THAT NOT THE CASE? NO. THE CITY OPERATES SA CORPS, WHICH IS A COROLLARY TO THE SMART TEAM, BUT IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROJECT, NOT THE FUNDS ARE NOT COMMINGLED AT ALL.

SO. SO, ERIC, AM I GOING OH, YOU'RE CRAZY HERE.

OKAY. NO, SIR.

A LONG TIME AGO THERE WAS DISCUSSION IS DO WE? IF WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND.

SMART, RIGHT. SHOULD WE JUST MAKE IT A CITY? COUNTY, THE WHOLE THING.

AND THE CITY WOULD COVER THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY WOULD COVER THE CITY. IT'S ONE TEAM.

WE'RE USING THE SAME METRICS, ETC..

THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

AND SO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, SINCE 20 OCTOBER 20TH, WE'VE HAD THINGS THE THE LEADERSHIP'S ALL FELT LIKE IT WAS BEST SERVED OKAY, THAT WE KEEP THOSE TEAMS ONE FOR THE CITY AND ONE FOR THE COUNTY.

OKAY. SO SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF SOMEBODY LIVES IN UNINCORPORATED BEXAR COUNTY AND THEY MAKE THE CALL THAT COMES TO OUR SMART TEAM.

YEP. OKAY.

IF SOMEBODY LIVES IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THEY MAKE A SIMILAR CALL.

IT GOES TO THE CITY'S CORE TEAM.

CORE TEAM. OKAY.

THEY'RE ALL GOING TO 911.

RIGHT. AND THEY'RE ALL GETTING AN OFFICER OR A SHERIFF DEPUTY DISPATCHED.

AND THEN IF IT'S IN THE CITY, IT GETS A CORE CO-RESPONDER IF IT'S IN THE COUNTY, IT GETS A SMART CO-RESPONDER.

AND IF IT'S IN ONE OF THE SUBURBAN CITIES.

IF SO, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO COVERS CORE.

IF IT'S IN LEON.

COME ON UP WITH THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES, DOES IT NOT? SO IT DEPENDS ON IF THEY'RE DISPATCHED BY BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IF THERE'S AN AREA LIKE CONVERSE THAT IS DISPATCHED BY BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR SMART TO BE DISPATCHED THERE.

IF IT'S IN THE CITY, THEY HAVE TO BE DISPATCHED BY SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE CORE TEAM.

OKAY. I AGAIN, I GUESS ULTIMATELY WHAT MATTERS IS THE PERSON AT THE OTHER END OF THE 911 CALL IF THEY'RE GETTING THE SERVICES THEY NEED.

RIGHT. AND IT IN MY MIND, IT MAKES SENSE TO SOMEHOW MAKE THIS A JOINT CITY COUNTY DEAL.

AND I KNOW THAT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE AND A LOT OF THINGS IN A LOT OF WAYS.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

THESE ACTION ITEMS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

OKAY? I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF ON A TANGENT THEN.

OKAY. SO I THINK WE'RE STILL ON ITEM TWO.

JUDGE, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THREE YET, BUT I JUST WANTED TO.

CAN I AT LEAST TRY TO CLARIFY COMMISSIONERS? SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

ERIC EPLEY IT'S NOT JUST THAT IT WAS DECIDED NOT TO HAVE A JOINT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

THE CITY, WHEN SMART WAS FIRST STARTED DURING COVID, CHOSE NOT TO JOIN AND BE A PART OF SMART.

THAT'S CORRECT, BECAUSE I WAS DOING THE CONTRACTS FOR METROHEALTH DURING COVID AND THE CITY CHOSE NOT TO BE A PART OF STRACH.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY AND COUNTY.

I'M SORRY OF OF SMART.

IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY AND COUNTY CHOSE NOT TO WORK TOGETHER.

EVERYONE WAS INVITED TO BE A PART OF SMART, AND THE CITY CHOSE NOT TO.

HOLD ON. CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? I KNOW THERE'S NO QUESTION.

I'M. I WANT TO BRING THAT FACT FORWARD.

JUST MAKE IT A POINT.

YES. THAT'S HOW I TOOK IT.

SHE WAS MAKING A STATEMENT.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS. NO NO QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SO HAVE WE ASKED THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE AND THINK ABOUT A JOINT PROGRAM? BECAUSE I AGREE WITH MY MY COLLEAGUES AND KNOW FROM, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS BACKGROUND THAT POOLING THESE RESOURCES WILL MAKE THEM MORE EFFICIENT, RIGHT.

RATHER THAN TRYING TO HAVE AN EAST WEST TEAM.

BUT WE'RE ONLY COVERING UNINCORPORATED BEXAR COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES IT GEOGRAPHICALLY DIFFICULT AS WELL.

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SO HAVE WE MADE THAT REQUEST? HAVE WE GOTTEN A RESPONSE FROM THE CITY? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE? I THINK IT'S A IT'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD WITH BOTH LEADERSHIPS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FROM THE FIRE EMS SIDE.

WE'RE USING THE SAME MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS.

WE'RE USING THE SAME COORDINATION FROM KELLY AND HER TEAM.

RIGHT. SO FROM A COMPETENCIES FROM A ARE THE TEAM MAKEUPS, ARE WE DOING THE SAME THINGS WITH THE TEAMS? WE ARE. BUT I THINK REALLY THE QUESTION WILL BE ON THE FIRE AND EMS AND ON THE SHERIFF AND PD LEADERSHIP SIDE AS THE CONVERSATION THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S OF THAT, THEY ALL FIND VALUE IN THAT PROCESS WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.

OKAY. WELL, I HOPE THAT WE CAN WE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION AND PUSH FOR THAT, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF EFFICIENCIES TO BE GAINED IF WE WERE ABLE TO PULL THOSE RESOURCES.

BUT NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT, LET ME SEE IF I CAN'T WEIGH IN FOR CLARITY PURPOSES.

SO, DOCTOR ERIC, BE READY FOR MY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

LET'S BREAK THIS THING DOWN SO THAT THE PUBLIC EITHER HERE OR WATCHING ON TV OR WHEREVER THEY WATCH US, UNDERSTANDS THAT A ONE AGENDA ITEM WAS BASICALLY UPDATE ON THE STRAT SMART PROGRAM.

IN ITS SIMPLEST TERMS, IT IS THE COUNTY'S EFFORTS.

WELL, AND AT ONE TIME A CITY COUNTY EFFORTS.

THAT WAS DURING COVID BEFORE MY TIME.

BUT IT WAS AN EFFORT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE AN INTERVENTION OF MENTAL HEALTH.

AND SO THAT ON 911 CALLS THAT COME INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE'VE NOW SEEN WITH CLARITY THE CITY CALLS SAN ANTONIO GO THEIR WAY, BEXAR COUNTY GOES THEIR WAY.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE FOR THE COUNTY PART, FOR WHICH YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION OF MONIES FOR THIS CURRENT A-2, IS TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM.

AND WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, PERHAPS IN THE SIMPLEST TERMS, I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO CLARIFY IF I MISINTERPRET OR MISSTATE.

IT'S A DIVERSION PROGRAM TO GET CALLS, HOPEFULLY, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THROUGH THE 911, AND THEY THEY DON'T HAVE TO THEN GO THROUGH OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IF THERE IS A REFERRAL THERE OR THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, ER WHICH WILL IS CROWDED AND, AND WITH THE LIMITATIONS THAT A HOSPITAL HAVE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PUTTING PROFESSIONALS AT THE SCENE TRAINED AND TRIAGING SO THAT FOR AND AS YOUR STATS SHOW, YOU'RE ABLE TO RESOLVE THESE HIGH NEEDS HIGH ACUTE WHAT WE CALL THE ACUITY ISSUE CIRCUMSTANCES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN REMAIN IN A SAFE AND SECURE PLACE, MOST LIKELY THEIR HOMES, AND THEY GET A REFERRAL TO A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL AT A LATER DATE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO INCUR THE EXPENSES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, HOSPITAL AND ALL THE OTHER COLLATERAL COSTS.

DOES THAT SAY IT IN A NUTSHELL? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ HEARING.

NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL NOW GO TO A3.

APPROVAL AND EXECUTION.

THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT GRANT BETWEEN BEXAR COUNTY AND THE SOUTHWEST TEXAS REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2021, AND ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, TO INCLUDE A DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF 2,000,750 HUNDRED $919 TO DISTRACT SMART EXPANSION PROJECT FOR A NEW TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 14,202,200 $173, AND NO CHANGE TO THE HIGH ACUITY BEDS PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF 7,309,000 $500,000, FOR A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED 21,000,617 HUNDRED THOUSAND $171 TO INCLUDE APPROPRIATE BUDGETARY TRANSFER.

SO MOVED. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES I.

WE OPENED UP FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE THAT.

DOCTOR GIRL, LET'S JUST SUMMARIZE.

I THINK WE'VE KIND OF CLEARED THE PATH, SO TO SPEAK.

WHAT IS THE ESSENCE? WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE POWERPOINT.

WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THIS MOTION AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? WE ARE ASKING TO DECREASE THE ORIGINAL ARPA AWARD IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,750,919, DUE TO A LACK OF EXPANSION, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.

SO IT IS IT IS TO DECREASE THE ARPA AWARD TO STRUCK BY THAT $2.7 MILLION.

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OKAY, ERIC, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH THE THIS ACTION BY THE COURT? WE ARE. AND TELL ME WHY THAT.

TELL ME HOW THAT MAKES THE SYSTEM BETTER OR HELPS YOU DEVELOP A BETTER FOCUS.

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. I MEAN, THE IT'S SALARY SAVINGS, IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED.

I IT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.

I WISH IT HADN'T. I WISH WE COULD HAVE FOUND MORE PEOPLE.

IT'S YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PERSONNEL ISSUES, BUT IT'S SAVINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED.

AND DOCTOR G, DO WE HAVE A PLAN TO WHERE WE DIVERTING THESE COST SAVINGS? WE DO. WE HAVE A PLAN.

WE WE'RE WORKING WITH SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE INCENTIVE PAY FOR TO RECRUIT ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES.

WORKING WITH THE EMS AND WITH THE CLINICIANS TO TO RECRUIT MORE WITHIN THIS PROGRAM.

AND IT'LL BE A CONTINUE AN EXPANSION OR A MODIFICATION.

WE WILL GO TO 24 SEVEN.

YES. WHAT STRIKE DOES.

YES. WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE IT YET.

SO WE HAVE THE SAVINGS, BUT WE WILL BE AT 24 SEVEN.

ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL SO YOU THE I GUESS THE ASPIRATION IS 24 SEVEN.

BUT THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE TO DO IT BY A CERTAIN DATE.

OR I'M GOING TO ASK KELLY.

KELLY CAN GIVE YOU THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER.

THE GOAL IS TO GET THERE, AND WE'RE REALLY CLOSE.

THOSE ARE THOSE NUMBERS I SHOWED YOU.

WE'RE LIKE ONE PARAMEDIC OFF IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE AND TWO DEPUTIES, I THINK LIKE A REALLY CLOSE.

BUT YOU CAN'T GO 24 SEVEN.

DO YOU HAVE KIND OF THE FULL COMPLEMENT.

RIGHT. SO IS THAT ACCURATE.

SO KELLY IS LATE SUMMER OKAY.

BUT THAT'S DEPENDENT ON STAFFING AND THE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS THAT ARE HAPPENING TODAY.

SO SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND FROM A FUNCTIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I HEAR 24 SEVEN I'M THINKING I'M INFERRING THAT CURRENTLY YOU HAVE FOLKS WORKING 9 TO 5.

BUT THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.

RIGHT? 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M.

OKAY. EVERY DAY. OKAY.

EVERY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 6 A.M.

TO 10 P.M..

AND ARE YOU KEEPING DATA ON WHEN MOST OF THOSE CALLS ARE COMING IN? I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE PROBABLY AFTER THAT 5 TO 10 P.M.

RANGE. IS THAT ACCURATE? OR WE ARE KEEPING DATA ON THE CALLS THAT THE TEAM IS RESPONDING TO TODAY.

OKAY. BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF THE THE FEED THAT ERIC SPOKE TO EARLIER, WE AREN'T ABLE TO TRACK THOSE CALLS OVERNIGHT TO ANY TIME THAT THE TEAM IS NOT ON.

IF THEY'RE NOT DISPATCHED, WE WILL HAVE THAT ABILITY ONCE THAT FEEDS BEEN ESTABLISHED.

SO UNDER THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT, IF SOMEONE WERE TO CALL AN UNINCORPORATED, UNINCORPORATED BEXAR COUNTY 911 AT 11 P.M., THERE WOULD NOT BE A SMART, TRAINED PROFESSIONAL AVAILABLE.

IT'S I GO THROUGH THE REGULAR DISPATCH, I GUESS.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

FOR FOR A POLICE OR FIRE.

IT'S ALL GOING THROUGH THE REGULAR DISPATCH SYSTEM ANYWAY.

RIGHT? SO THE SAME DISPATCHERS THAT SEND THE DEPUTY ARE SENDING THE SMART TEAM, OKAY.

THE SAME DISPATCHER SENT THE FIRE TRUCK ARE SENDING THE SMART TO THAT'S THE SAME ORGANIZATION DOING THAT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THAT WAS ABOUT HAVING TWO DIFFERENT TEAMS FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SAPS.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DISPATCH SYSTEMS. NOW THEY CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER OVER CAD.

THEY CAN HAND CALLS OFF TO EACH OTHER.

BUT THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL.

STRUCTURAL DIFFERENCES IN THE WAY 911 FLOWS TO THE CITY SAP AND INTO THEIR SYSTEM VERSUS THE COUNTY SAP AND INTO THE COUNTY DISPATCH SYSTEM.

SO SO THEN WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO TO ASPIRE TO 24 OVER SEVEN COVERAGE? WHAT'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE, WHAT'S CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE THEN? SMART TEAM RESPONSE AFTER 10 P.M.

TILL 6 A.M.. THAT'S WHAT IT OKAY, A DEPUTY OR A FIRE EMS IS STILL GOING TO THOSE CALLS.

JUST LIKE, OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

YEAH. 11:00 11 P.M.

CALL COMES IN GOING.

GOT IT. OKAY, OKAY, I THINK I THINK I GOT IT.

THANK YOU, MR. CALVERT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE SOME OF THIS SAVINGS FOR A RECRUITMENT PROGRAM? SO BECAUSE MY THOUGHT WAS, NO, WE WE ARE EXPLORING OTHER AVENUES FOR HOW TO INCENTIVIZE TO ADDITIONAL SHIFTS IN HOW TO BRING MORE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ON.

OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY POTENTIALLY TO WORK ON A WITH THIS SAVINGS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE POSITIONS FILLED AND INCENTIVE PROGRAM OF SOME SORT FROM SOME OF THIS MONEY FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WEREN'T FILLED. SO, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, I GUESS WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP MOVING.

BUT JUST JUST THE THOUGHT.

MR. MOODY FOR THE EARLY MORNING.

DO YOU TALKING AGAIN ABOUT THE CALLS OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY? DO YOU SEE CALLS IN THE EARLY MORNING? DO YOU HAVE A SENSE WE WE GET TO SEE LAW ENFORCEMENT NAVIGATION DATA BECAUSE ALL OF THAT'S COMING THROUGH.

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MEDCOM. IF AN OFFICER OR A DEPUTY EMERGENCY DETAIN SOMEONE OVERNIGHT, WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE VOLUME THAT SMART WOULD HAVE GONE TO HAD THEY BEEN ON DUTY BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF THE IT'S CALLED HIS QUESTION WAS 6 A.M.

TO 10 A.M.. LET'S SAY THAT 630 ONCE THE TEAM HAPPENED AT 630, HOW MANY CALLS ARE HAVING AT 715? BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO ASK, WHY AREN'T WE GOING NOON TO 2 A.M.? THAT'S THE BIG ONE STEP AHEAD OF ME.

YEAH. SO OUR HISTORY WITH AND WE DO HAVE THIS DATA FROM, FROM CORE, THE DATA FEED THAT WE WERE GETTING FROM THE SHERIFF THAT WILL BE IN PLACE SHORTLY.

WE HAVE THAT ON THE CITY SIDE AND WE CAN SEE THAT HEAT MAP.

AND SO THEORETICALLY, THOSE HEAT MAPS OUGHT TO CORRELATE PRETTY WELL TO THE UNINCORPORATED AND INCORPORATED AREAS.

WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION.

YEAH I AGREE PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

THE OTHER THE OTHER CHALLENGE AND NOT TO NOT TO TRY TO TAKE A, YOU KNOW, AN ALLAY HERE.

BUT WE AREN'T REALLY IN CHARGE OF THE RECRUITMENT.

I MEAN, I'M NOT RECRUITING SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES AND I'M NOT RECRUITING CLINICIANS FROM CHCS.

WE HAVE TO. IT'S LIKE BIG HAT, NO CATTLE.

LIKE IT'S BEING IT'S LIKE BEING, YOU KNOW, SO THE THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE RECRUITING ARE WOULD PROBABLY BE IT'D BE BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO HAVE YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT.

LIKE WE'RE GETTING ENCOURAGED.

UNDERSTAND. WE'LL PASS THAT ALONG FOR SURE.

BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ACADIAN AMBULANCE CHIEFS AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE ACTUAL RECRUITING FOR THOSE FOLKS.

AND SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

UNDERSTOOD. BUT JUST CIRCLING BACK.

SO YOU ALREADY KNEW WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.

SO FOR THE EARLY MORNING HOURS, OBVIOUSLY IF WE GO TO 24 SEVEN SOON, THEN IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN TRYING TO SHIFT THINGS.

BUT. RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY KIND OF OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH THOSE LATER EVENING HOURS? THERE IS THERE IS VOLUME THAT THE TEAM IS RESPONDING TO DURING THE DAY.

WE ALSO DID A STUDY, A YES OR NO.

CAN Y'ALL EXTEND OR NOT? THAT'S WHAT HE WAS ASKING.

I THINK IT'S NOT WITH EXPANSION SO CLOSE IT WOULD BE A BAD DECISION.

A LOT OF THIS HAD TO DO WITH, WELL, I'M ASKING, I'LL TELL YOU THE SAME THING.

IT'S IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF STRATEGIC PLANNING NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO IT.

IF WE'RE TO GO TO 24 SEVEN.

CORRECT. WE'RE READY TO GO TO 20 47A DAY.

IF WE HAD THE PEOPLE WE HAVE ALL THE PLANNING DONE, WE HAVE ALL THE EXECUTION DONE, WE HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT IN PLACE, WE HAVE ALL THE TRUCKS IN PLACE.

WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ARE THE 3 OR 4 PEOPLE TOTAL TO BRING THAT TO FULL CAPABILITY.

AND WE'LL TURN IT ON TOMORROW NIGHT.

IF THEY'LL PUT THREE DEPUTIES, TWO FIREMEN AND AN ACADIAN MEDIC AND A AND A CHCS ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

SO, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE 16 HOURS TODAY.

IS THE CITY DOING 24 OVER SEVEN? NOT YET. NOT YET.

SURE. SAME BUCKET THERE IN THE VERY SAME POSITION AGAIN.

AND IF WE PARTNERED AND BROUGHT THOSE RESOURCES TOGETHER, WE COULD PROBABLY COVER 20 47A DAY, RIGHT? YEAH. ECHELONS ABOVE ERIC.

WELL, I'LL JUST MAKE THAT COMMENT FOR THE RECORD.

THE SO I JUST ALSO HEARD DOCTOR GUERRERO.

SO YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR THIS FUNDING, BUT WE'RE BRINGING THIS, THIS FUNDING BACK AGAIN.

MY COMMENT WAS AROUND THINKING ABOUT THE FUNDING FOR 25 AND 26 FOR THE BASELINE PROGRAM AS WELL.

SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, IF WE HAVE IDEAS, WE'LL HAVE TO BRING THOSE BACK TO THE COURT, RIGHT, FOR APPROVAL.

RIGHT. AND LET ME CLARIFY, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE IDEAS FOR THIS PARTICULAR $2.7 MILLION THAT WOULD BE RECALLED TO THE ARPA OFFICE, AND IT IS UP TO THEM AND UP TO YOU HOW TO REALLOCATE IT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE ARE WORKING WITH THE PARTNERS THAT ERIC'S TALKING ABOUT CLINICIANS, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, TO THINK OF INNOVATIVE WAYS TO RECRUIT MORE PEOPLE.

OKAY. UNDERSTAND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

THIS IS NEEDED 24 OVER SEVEN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ANSWERS WHEN AND HOW IT WORKS, BUT I KNOW IT WORKS.

AND THIS IS WHY I WAS HERE PAST 6:00.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIME, AND MY STAFF WERE ALREADY GONE.

I WAS LEAVING MY OFFICE, GOING TO MY CAR ON A WAY TO EITHER A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING OR A COMMUNITY EVENT OR SOMETHING THAT I SHOWED UP SUPER LATE TO BECAUSE THERE IS A HOMELESS WOMAN THERE AND SHE STARTED TALKING TO ME.

SO WE STARTED TALKING AND I WAS TRYING TO HELP HER AND WORKING WITH HER.

AND THEN THE SHERIFF DEPUTIES WHO LINE UP RIGHT HERE ON MAIN STREET PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY LATE, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WORK LATE AND YOU SEE THEM AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THEIR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEIR BUS OR WHATEVER THEY DO.

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AND THEY WERE PULLING OUT AND I'M TALKING TO HER.

AND THEN THEY ALL TURNED AROUND AND THEY CAME BACK IN AND THEY ASKED ME BECAUSE I WAS THEIR COMMISSIONER.

IS EVERYTHING OKAY? DO YOU NEED HELP? AND SO THE WOMAN STARTS TO FREAK OUT BECAUSE SHE'S USED TO COPS DISRESPECTING HER AND THROWING HER IN JAIL.

SO I HAD TO CALM HER DOWN.

I SAID, NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THROW YOU IN JAIL.

THEY'RE CHECKING ON ME.

NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU.

AND THOSE SHERIFF DEPUTIES.

I'M SURE THEY HAD IMPORTANT TASKS AND ASSIGNMENTS TO GO TO, BUT THEY STAYED.

WE ALL STAYED THERE FOR OVER AN HOUR WITH THIS ONE WOMAN MAKING SURE THAT SHE HAD WHAT SHE NEEDED.

AND THEY WERE KIND AND THEY WERE GENTLE AND THEY WERE RESPECTFUL.

AND AFTER THEY HAD EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL, I SAID, TURNS OUT SHE'S A BRAC ALUM LIKE ME AND ONE THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES IS ALSO A BRAC ALUM LIKE ME.

HE FOUND OUT A LOT OF THINGS WHEN YOU HANG OUT LATE.

AND SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, MA'AM, THEY'RE HERE.

THEY'RE VERY RESPECTFUL.

NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I NEED TO GET GOING.

I HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING.

SHE WAS LIKE, NO, NO, NO, NO.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL MEN AT THE TIME.

SO SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TO LEAVE.

SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I'M GOING TO STAY. I'LL STAY.

AND WE WAITED UNTIL STRIKE.

THE STRIKE TEAM ARRIVED, THEN INCLUDED A SOCIAL WORKER AND A THERAPIST, AND THEY WERE FEMALES.

AND THEN GRADUALLY, AFTER OVER AN HOUR, I WAS ABLE TO LEAVE AND GET TO MY COMMUNITY EVENT.

SUPER LATE. THIS WORKS.

WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FUND IT.

YOU CANNOT CONTROL WHEN A MENTAL EPISODE HAPPENS.

IF IT HAPPENS AT THREE IN THE MORNING OR 559 IN THE MORNING, AND NO ONE'S GOING TO ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S NOT 6:00 AM YET OR WHATEVER, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ANSWERING IT. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S COORDINATING IT.

AS A COMMISSIONER, I AM NOT A MICROMANAGER.

I TRUST OUR COUNTY STAFF TO DO THEIR WORK THAT WE'VE HIRED THEM TO DO, AND TO PARTNER WITH THE BEST NONPROFITS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT INCLUDE THERAPISTS AND SOCIAL WORKERS AND OUR SHERIFF DEPUTIES TO STEP UP AND DO THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CALLED TO DO.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT AND ADVOCATE UNTIL THIS GETS FUNDED.

24 SEVEN JUDGE.

YES, COMMISSIONER. CLAY-FLORES POINT, WHY DID WHY DID STAFF NOT RECOMMEND ANY INCENTIVES FOR GETTING THESE PEOPLE HIRED? THAT'S THE PLAN WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AT THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE MONTHS, AS WE WERE WORKING TOWARD EXPANSION, IT IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE WE WERE GOING TO GET THERE.

AND AS SOON AS WE WOULD GET ENOUGH PARAMEDICS OR EMS SUPPORT, THEN MAYBE A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY WOULD RETIRE OR A CLINICIAN WOULD LEAVE.

AND SO IT WAS IT'S JUST SORT OF TRYING TO PLAY THIS SHELL GAME OF TRYING TO PUT ALL OF THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THE 3 OR 4 PEOPLE THAT WE NEED LEFT TO GO TO 24 SEVEN.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING THROUGH WITH OUR PARTNERS TO SEE HOW CAN WE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RECRUITMENT EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE REMAIN.

SO IT'S RETENTION AT THIS POINT AS WELL.

SO SO MY RUDIMENTARY AND THIS IS VERY BASIC, MY RUDIMENTARY UNDERSTANDING OF MOST FOLKS WHO ENTER FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT IS, YOU KNOW, IT DOES REQUIRE SOMEONE WHO HAS A SPECIALIZED DESIRE TO DO THIS WORK.

AND THAT MAY NOT BE 85% OF THE PATH OF THE FOLKS WHO GO INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO, AGAIN, IT WOULD SEEM THAT, YOU KNOW, HOLDING IT UP AS AN INCENTIVE AND SAYING, HEY, IF YOU HAVE A STRENGTH IN THIS PARTICULAR FIELD OF MENTAL HEALTH AND YOU WANT TO JOIN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE'LL INCENTIVIZE YOU.

I MEAN, I JUST AM TRYING TO IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE PLAYING THIS ROTATIONAL GAME IF YOU DON'T INCENTIVIZE.

SO. SO YEAH, IT DOES TAKE A PERSON WHO HAS ENTHUSIASM.

ARE YOU RECOGNIZED DEPUTY MARTINEZ THIS MORNING WHO'S A MEMBER OF THE SMART TEAM.

AND IT DOES TAKE A SPECIAL TYPE OF PERSON WHO HAS ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS WORK.

IN ADDITION, THERE IS SPECIFIC TRAINING THAT ONE HAS TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE ON THIS TEAM AS WELL.

SO THERE'S SOME LAG TIME THERE.

SO EVEN AS SOON AS YOU HIRE, YOU HAVE TO TRAIN.

I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT DID I HEAR YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO INCENTIVIZE IT? YOU ARE WORKING ON INCENTIVE.

ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR INCENTIVIZING.

YES OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT I'M CALLING FOR A VOTE.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? 83A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS.

MOTION CARRIES.

CARRY ON. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

OH, JUDGE DIAZ WE SHOULD HAVE HEARD YOU AT 1030.

[4.b. 10:30 a.m.: Presentation and discussion regarding the Collaborative Commission on Domestic Violence's (CCDV) 2022 Annual Statistical Data Report. (Presentation Time: 15 minutes) (Monique Diaz)]

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION DISCUSSION OF THE COLLATERAL COMMISSION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CVE 2022 ANNUAL STATISTICS STATISTICAL DATA REPORT. GOOD MORNING.

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GOOD MORNING. JUDGE.

MEMBERS OF THE COURT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US TODAY.

WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO BE BRIEF AS OUR MEMBERS COME UP.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE WELCOMED HERE BY MANY OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE CDB.

WE ALSO HAVE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY THE DIRECTOR OF METRO HEALTH, CLAUDE JACOB, THAT I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO, TO JUST SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS BEFORE WE DIVE INTO OUR PRESENTATION, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU, JUDGE DIAZ.

THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID YOU GREETINGS ON BEHALF OF DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MARIA VILLAGOMEZ, WHO SERVES AS A CO-CHAIR OF THE COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

SHE HAD A LAST MINUTE CONFLICT AND COULD NOT JOIN US, BUT SHE SENDS HER GREETINGS AS WELL AS CITY MANAGER ERIK WALSH.

DOCTOR CLAUDE JACOB, I'VE BEEN THE HEALTH DIRECTOR HERE GOING ON THREE YEARS.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST SHARE WITH YOU THE 2.0 VERSION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

YOU'LL SEE THIS DATA REPORT.

I DO WANT TO THANK JUDGE DIAZ FOR HER LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU, JUDGE SAKAI, FOR THIS VISION SET IN MOTION FIVE YEARS AGO.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THIS DATA.

REPORT JUST HIGHLIGHTS BUT IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE THE ONGOING COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ON THIS EFFORT IN ADDRESSING THE BURDEN OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FOR OUR AREA RESIDENTS.

SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO ALSO SHARE THAT NEXT WEEK IS NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK.

THIS IS A CAMPAIGN SHEPHERDED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION.

THIS IS AN ANNUAL EFFORT TO HEIGHTEN THE AWARENESS AROUND THE PLIGHT OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

BUT THIS YEAR'S THEME IS ON PROTECTING, CONNECTING, AND THRIVING.

WE ARE ALL PUBLIC HEALTH.

SO JUST KNOW THAT APRIL 1ST THROUGH SEVENTH WILL BE CELEBRATING NATIONWIDE.

SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF EFFORTS AND CAMPAIGNS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO JOIN US AS AMBASSADORS OF THIS WORK.

BUT JUST WANT TO BID YOU GREETINGS AND THANKS.

AND REALLY A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO ERIKA STEVENSON, WHO IS OUR ADMINISTRATOR OVERSEEING ONE OF THE LARGEST SECTIONS AT OUR DEPARTMENT AT METRO HEALTH.

SO REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS AGAIN TO ERIKA AND THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS EFFORT.

ALL RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO DIVE INTO THE DATA REPORT.

BUT FIRST, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WE WERE CREATED IN 2019 BY THE HONORABLE JUDGE PETER SAKAI IN RESPONSE TO BEXAR COUNTY HAVING THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOMICIDES IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS IN 2018.

WE ARE A JOINT CITY COUNTY COMMISSION, AS CLAUDE STATED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, MY CO-CHAIR IS DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MARIA VILLAGOMEZ, A REPRESENTING THE CITY, AND I REPRESENT THE COUNTY.

AND WE LOST THE POWERPOINT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AGAIN, JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, THE CCTV RECENTLY INTRODUCED A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ECOSYSTEM MODEL TO ILLUSTRATE THE COMPLEX SYSTEM IN WHICH WE AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN BEXAR COUNTY FUNCTION.

THIS ECOSYSTEM IS BEST ILLUSTRATED THROUGH STRATEGIES AND INTERVENTIONS THAT INFLUENCE FOUR DIFFERENT LEVELS, INCLUDING, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE SLIDE, INDIVIDUALS AND RELATIONSHIPS, ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITIES, SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS, AND SOCIETAL AND CULTURAL TO IMPROVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION, RESPONSE AND SUPPORT.

THE CCTV AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS COLLECTIVELY OPERATE IN EACH OF THESE FOUR LEVELS.

BUT BY DESIGN, THE CCTV'S FOCUS IS PRIMARILY THE TWO MIDDLE LEVELS OF THIS ECOSYSTEM ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITIES, AND SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS.

THAT IS WHERE WE FOCUS OUR WORK.

WE FORMALLY CONVENE LEADERS IN GOVERNMENT, OUR LOCAL JUDICIARY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, PROSECUTION, NONPROFITS, HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATIONS, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, AND FAITH BASED LEADERS TO ADDRESS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THROUGH SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.

I'M GOING TO SKIP THIS SLIDE AND GO BACK TO IT.

SO THE REASON WE ARE HERE TODAY IS WE HAVE JUST RELEASED ONE OF TWO REPORTS THAT WE PUBLISH ANNUALLY.

AND THIS IS OUR ANNUAL STATISTICAL DATA REPORT.

THIS IS A REPORT THAT WE COMPILED TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY AND INCREASED DATA SHARING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS NOT A REPORT THAT SUMMARIZES OUR WORK AS THE CDB.

WE DO PLAN TO RELEASE OUR PROGRESS REPORT SUMMARIZING THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IN APRIL.

SO WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK AND PRESENT TO YOU ALL THAT REPORT WHEN IT IS READY.

THIS REPORT COMPILES DATA PROVIDED BY OUR MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS OVER THE 2022 CALENDAR YEAR, WITH THE INTENT OF PROVIDING A PICTURE OF THE STATE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN BEXAR COUNTY.

THIS REPORT PROVIDES READERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND COMPARE PREVIOUS YEARS OF DATA WITH CURRENT TRENDS FOR 2022.

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THE GOAL IS TO FACILITATE OUR COMMUNITY WITH SEEING A CLEARER AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF THE WAY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IMPACTS SURVIVORS, VICTIMS, CHILDREN AND THOSE WHO USE OR HAVE USED VIOLENCE.

TO SUMMARIZE, THIS REPORT IS BROKEN UP INTO THREE PARTS ONE COMMUNITY MEMBER REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, TWO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSES, AND THREE SERVICES AND SUPPORTS DELIVERED TO THOSE AFFECTED BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE JUST BEFORE THIS TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT.

YOU MAY, AND SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED TO US SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS REPORT ABOUT DATA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

THAT'S NOT IN IT. WE DO GROW UPON THIS REPORT YEAR AFTER YEAR.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THE ADDITION OF DATA THAT WE HOPE WILL BE COMPILED THROUGH THE SYSTEM ASSESSMENT THAT YOU ALL ARE CURRENTLY CONSIDERING.

I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A PROPOSAL SUBMITTED TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM'S RESPONSE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, INCLUDING THE CIVIL AND CRIMINAL COURTS, THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER, AND THE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IT'S A THREE YEAR ASSESSMENT.

SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD OF THIS BEFORE.

I BELIEVE I'VE BRIEFED YOU ALL ON IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS A RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND I WASN'T AT THE MEETING, BUT I THINK YOU ALL VOTED IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

THAT WILL BE ANOTHER TREMENDOUS SOURCE OF DATA SPECIFIC TO THE COUNTY'S INVOLVEMENT IN PREVENTION AND RESPONSE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WE HOPE WE'LL AUGMENT THIS REPORT IN THE FUTURE.

TO DIVE INTO THE DATA.

THE NEXT SLIDE DISCUSSES SUMMARIZES THE DATA ON OUR COMMUNITY NEED.

BASED ON ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE COMPLETED BY THE CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES, APPROXIMATELY HALF OF ADULTS AND TWO THIRDS OF CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS THAT WERE ASSESSED REPORTED ISSUES WITH FAMILY FUNCTIONING.

AMONG THOSE, ONE QUARTER OF ADULTS AND 15% OF CHILDREN HAD WITNESSED FAMILY VIOLENCE.

THE AMOUNT OF ADULTS REPORTED REMAINS STATIC FROM 2021 TO 2022, BUT THE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN WHO REPORTED WITNESSING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCREASED BY 4% OVER THE YEAR.

2.11 TEXAS CONTINUES TO BE THE PRIMARY SOURCE THAT PEOPLE REACH OUT TO WHEN SEEKING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ASSISTANCE.

IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER THAT THEY CALL, THEY RECEIVED 1285 CALLS FOR RESOURCES RELATED TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN 2022.

RESOURCES FOR CRISIS SERVICES ARE MORE OFTEN REQUESTED THROUGH 211 THAN PREVENTIVE OR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, WITH EMERGENCY SHELTER OR HOUSING BEING THE MOST COMMONLY REQUESTED RESOURCE.

THE LAST COLUMN DISCUSSES DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOMICIDES, YOU'LL SEE THAT HOMICIDES CONTINUE TO DECLINE FROM A PEAK OF 36 IN 2020, WENT DOWN TO 24 AND 2021, SLIGHTLY BACK UP TO 27 IN 2022.

IN 2022, OF THOSE 27 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOMICIDES, THREE FOURTHS OF THOSE WERE WOMEN.

AND SADLY, THREE OF THOSE DEATHS WERE CHILDREN.

JUDGE? YES.

HOLD ON. COMMISSIONER, CAN WE LET THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FINISH AND THEN.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE WILL SURE.

OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

AND I'M NOT READY TO DO THAT.

JUDGE DIAZ. CONTINUE.

OKAY. THE NEXT SLIDE DISCUSSES LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA, AND WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES CONTRIBUTORS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER SPECIFIC FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WHEN WE'RE DONE.

THE NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES BCSO AND SAPD FAMILY VIOLENCE REPORTS THAT WERE FILED.

YOU'LL SEE A COMPARISON FROM 2020 THROUGH 2022.

THERE WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN REPORTS FILED TO 22,500 REPORTS.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT REPORTS FILED FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE ARE NOT AN EXCLUSIVE INDICATOR OF THE BURDEN OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ON OUR COMMUNITY.

AN INCREASE IN REPORTS CAN BE DUE TO INCREASED COMFORT AMONG COMMUNITY MEMBERS REGARDING FILING THOSE REPORTS.

WE HAVE HAD AN ONGOING COMMUNICATIONS CAMPAIGN WITH THAT AS ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE BELIEVE COULD BE PART OF THE REASON WHY THOSE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED. ADDITIONALLY, OF COURSE, WE HAVE POPULATION INCREASES THAT CAN INFLUENCE THOSE RESULTS.

THE NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES SOME OF THE DATA FROM OUR LEGAL SYSTEM.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE WERE OVER 1600 PROTECTIVE ORDER FILED BY ALL, ALL PROTECTIVE ORDERS FILED BY ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT FILE THOSE ON BEHALF OF APPLICANTS. WE'LL SEE DATA FROM THE DA'S OFFICE THAT INDICATES THAT THERE WERE ALMOST 10,000 FAMILY VIOLENCE BOOKINGS IN 2022, AND THERE WERE 2521 INDICTMENTS IN 2022 DATA THAT IS ROUGHLY COMPARABLE TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

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THE NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE DATA FROM THE BEXAR COUNTY COMMUNITY SUPERVISION AND CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT.

SO THEY OVERSEE THOSE THAT ARE ON PROBATION OR DEFERRED ADJUDICATION.

AND THEY SAW IN 2022, ROUGHLY 1300 INDIVIDUALS WERE UNDER COMMUNITY SUPERVISION FOR FELONY FAMILY VIOLENCE OFFENSES.

AND THE SAME AMOUNT, 1300, FOR MISDEMEANOR FAMILY VIOLENCE OFFENSES.

BEXAR COUNTY JUVENILE PROBATION REPORTED RECEIVING AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF FAMILY VIOLENCE REFERRALS, RESULTING IN SUPERVISION FROM 2021 TO 2022.

THE NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE CRISIS ADVOCACY SERVICES.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES, SAN ANTONIO, METRO HEALTH AND SAPD COMBINED.

THE NAVIGATION LINE THAT STRACK RUNS THAT YOU ALL ARE PICKING UP FUNDING FOR, AND THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER IN SOME REPORTED 21,000 INSTANCES ACROSS THE COMMUNITY OF PROVIDING CRISIS SUPPORT SERVICES, INCLUDING SOME FOR PEOPLE WHO SOUGHT ASSISTANCE MORE THAN ONCE OVER THE YEAR.

AND THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE WHICH SUMMARIZES SUPPORT SERVICES AND EDUCATION.

WE SEE THAT THE BATTERED WOMEN AND CHILDREN'S SHELTER REPORTED 1000 ADULTS AND CHILDREN WERE HOUSED IN THE YEAR OF 2022, TOTALING OVER 37,038 NIGHTS COMBINED.

THEY ALSO PROVIDED CIVIL LEGAL ASSISTANCE FOR ROUGHLY 1300 PEOPLE OVER 519 CASES.

SO WE ARE SEEING THAT OBVIOUSLY INCLUDES CASES INVOLVING CHILDREN THAT ARE RECEIVING LEGAL ASSISTANCE.

TEXAS RIO GRANDE LEGAL AID REPORTED A LITTLE OVER 1300 INTAKES AND 1000 ASSISTANCE CASES.

METRO HEALTH AND THE PEACE INITIATIVE, WHICH WE HAVE.

PATRICIA CASTILLO HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PEACE INITIATIVE, DELIVERED THE POSITIVE PARENTING PROGRAM KNOWN AS TRIPLE P IN THE COMMUNITY TO MORE THAN 2000 CAREGIVERS OR ADULTS. THIS IS AN EVIDENCE BASED PROGRAM THAT WE KNOW IS PROVEN TO REDUCE CHILD ABUSE.

AND FINALLY, THE PEACE INITIATIVE AND FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES ALSO PROVIDED TRAINING TO MORE THAN 15,000 PEOPLE ACROSS COMMUNITY REGARDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND RESOURCES FOR SUPPORT AND PREVENTION.

THAT INCLUDES MEDICAL PROVIDERS, FAITH BASED LEADERS, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED YOU BY EMAIL, A COPY OF THE FULL REPORT AND ARE READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

COMMISSIONER COBB, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, DAVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE WRITTEN POWERPOINT HAS BEEN PASSED OUT TO THE COURT.

RIGHT? DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE WRITTEN POWERPOINT? COULD. DO WE HAVE COPIES? NO. WELL WE'RE THAT SHOULD STAFF SHOULD HAVE THAT SHOULDN'T IT.

WE DID SUBMIT THEM BUT WE I BELIEVE WE BROUGHT EXTRA COPIES THAT WE CAN CIRCULATE TO YOU ALL AS WELL.

JUST WANTED I'M CHECKING TO SEE IF THE COURT HAD A WRITTEN POWERPOINT.

SO COMMISSIONER CALVERT QUESTION.

COMMENT. THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND ALL THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE FROM THE COMMUNITY GATHERED TODAY.

SIMPLE QUESTION.

DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY INDICATION AT 211? WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF CALLS FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RESOURCES IN COMPARISON TO THEIR ENTIRE SYSTEM OF CALLS? LET ME SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING ERICA HAS.

NO. OKAY. THE ANSWER IS NO.

THEY SIMPLY PROVIDED THE QUANTITY FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THEN GAVE US PROPORTIONS BASED ON PREVENTION, CRISIS OR RECOVERY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE THAT DATA JUST TO SEE YOU KNOW, MORE ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY, BUT ALSO JUST IN TERMS OF THE ONGOING SOCIAL CRISES THAT PEOPLE CALL FOR.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUDGE, FOR YOUR GOOD WORK, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM FORWARD AND FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO TO ERADICATE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

I HAD ONE QUESTION, AND I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO, AGAIN, TIE IN WITH THE NEXT ITEM IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT, AGAIN, WHY THE THE CITY HAS, HAS SEPARATED ITSELF FROM THE COUNTY? LIKE WHY DON'T WE HAVE A JOINT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LINE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THERE GOING TO BE STANDALONE IN TWO SEPARATE AGAIN.

SO TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE NAVIGATION LINE.

YES. I'LL DEFER TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY TO DISCUSS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE A CONCRETE ANSWER FOR YOU.

THAT WOULD BE AN ANSWER THAT COULD COME FROM THE CITY MANAGER OR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

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WHAT I CAN EXPLAIN IS THAT REGARDING COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, REGARDLESS OF JURISDICTIONS, WORK TOGETHER ANYWAY.

AND WE COLLABORATE, WE CONFER, WE MAKE SURE THAT IF I AM SERVING A PERSON THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE CAPTURED, ALSO, WE AVOID DUPLICATION.

IF WE THINK SOMEBODY FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS, WE MAKE SURE SOMEBODY CATCHES THEM.

SO ULTIMATELY, EVEN WITH DIVERGENCE OF PROGRAMS, WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE SMOOTH TRANSITIONS AND THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER SO THAT WE KEEP THINGS MOVING WITHOUT THE PEOPLE RECEIVING THE SERVICES NOTICING A CHANGE.

WELL, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

THERE'S THAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION AND EVERYTHING.

I STILL THINK, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND GET SOME MORE FEEDBACK.

BECAUSE IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT, THAT WE WOULDN'T BOTH BE BETTER OFF IF WE WERE UNDER ONE UMBRELLA SERVING THE ENTIRE BEXAR COUNTY REGION, INCLUDING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WITH WITH ONE ONE PROGRAM, ONE GROUP.

BUT BUT THANK YOU FOR FOR YOUR RESPONSE THERE.

CAN SOMEONE JUST CLARIFY FOR ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL LINE VERSUS YOU KNOW, JUST CALLING 911.

SO SO HOW IS THAT ROUTED DIFFERENTLY? WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO AND HOW DOES IT GET TO TO RESOLUTION? THERE IS THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISCONCEPTION FROM PEOPLE.

THEY IMAGINE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL LINE IS SOME PLACE THAT A PERSON WHO NEEDS HELP CALLS.

THAT'S A BEHIND THE SCENES CALL LINE.

MORE LIKE A DISPATCH CENTER.

SO YOU HEARD EARLIER ABOUT THE LAW, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT NAVIGATION LINE.

IT IS COMPARABLE TO THAT.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS BCSO CALLS THE DV NAVIGATION LINE MANAGED BY STRACK MEDCOM OPERATORS AT STRACK ANSWER.

THEY CONFER AND THEN THEY SEND AN ALERT TO METROHEALTH.

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS TODAY.

SO IT'S NOT A LINE THAT THE PUBLIC CALLS.

IT'S AN OPERATIONAL LINE TO CONNECT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL THEN PROVIDE THE DIRECT RESPONSE AND SUPPORT.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. OKAY. AND JUST SINCE I'M ON A ROLL ON THE THE LINE HERE IS IT 24 OVER SEVEN OR IS THAT ONLY FOR CERTAIN HOURS OF THE DAY AS WELL? YES, IT IS.

24 OVER SEVEN COMES ALL OF THE OUR OPERATIONS IN MEDCOM ARE 24 OVER SEVEN, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCLUDED.

OKAY. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND YOU? I DIDN'T FAIL TO INTRODUCE HER, BUT YOU WERE HEARING FROM ERIKA HALLER STEVENSON, WHO IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH ADMINISTRATOR AND ONE OF OUR PARTNERS HERE IN IN THE CCTV.

SO THAT'S WHO WAS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. JUDGE.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. JUDGE DIAZ, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING WORK HERE.

I KNOW WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY ON SOME OF THESE BEFORE.

YOU KNOW, ALWAYS VERY SOBERING, SEEING THE NUMBERS AND THE LIVES IMPACTED IN I DON'T WANT TO JUMP AHEAD.

I KNOW DOCTOR GUERRERO. AND THE NEXT ITEM YOU'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE DATA NOW, HOW HERE IS HOW WE'RE STRATEGIZING TO, TO IMPACT IT.

BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, PATRICIA, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO COME UP JUST FOR A MINUTE, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS YOUR LIFE, WORK, AND AND I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. AND THANK YOU.

FIRST OF ALL BUT I ALSO WANTED TO ASK WITH RESPECT TO I THINK IT WAS THE PARENTING CLASSES THAT YOU HAVE IMPLEMENTED.

WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING THE ISSUE PREVENTING THE ISSUE.

I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT CAPACITY BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME, YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, MINIMAL INVESTMENTS SHOULD BE MORE WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE PEACE INITIATIVE OR OTHER, ARE THERE WAYS THAT WE COULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL WITH OUR RESOURCES? AND I SAY THIS AS I LOOK AT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS BROKEN DOWN BY ZIP CODE, AND I THINK PRETTY CONSISTENTLY, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THE OF THE OF THE TOP TEN HIGHEST ZIP CODES OF, OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFENDERS OR REPORTS, I SHOULD SAY AT LEAST FIVE OF THE TOP TEN ARE IN PRECINCT TWO.

AND SO I WONDERED IF YOU COULD JUST COMMENT ABOUT CAPACITY.

WE LET US WORRY ABOUT GETTING YOU MORE MONEY AND I'M HAPPY TO, TO HELP WITH THAT.

BUT IS THERE CAPACITY TO DO MORE? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE VIEW, WE'RE WE'RE FULL, RIGHT, IN TERMS OF WHAT ONE EDUCATOR CAN HANDLE, THAT'S WHO'S WORKING FOR US RIGHT NOW. AND ORIGINALLY WE GOT FUNDING FROM THE SAN ANTONIO.

IN YOUR AREA FOUNDATION TO DO THAT WORK FOR THREE YEARS, AND THAT MONEY HAS ENDED.

AND BUT THE CASES STILL KEEP GETTING REFERRED TO US.

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AND SO I'M HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, STRUGGLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY HER, TO KEEP HER ON.

BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ALSO STARTING TO GET A LOT MORE CASES REFERRED TO US FROM THE COURT SYSTEM.

AND PARENTING CLASSES ARE PRIMARY PREVENTION.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT AREA OF WORK THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A PRIORITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE RESPOND TO THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE AFFECTING ENTIRE GENERATIONS, RIGHT, BY DOING THE PARENTING WORK.

AND AND THEN IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT IF THE CASES ARE COMING FROM COURT AND CPS, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, THESE FAMILIES ARE ALREADY IN CRISIS.

AND AND THEN WE HAVE THIS CONTINUOUS EFFORT OF OUTREACH WE'RE GETTING OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, ASKING PEOPLE TO SELF-IDENTIFY, ASKING PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD AND SEEK HELP.

AND THEY ARE.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING, BECAUSE IT TELLS US THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LIVE THAT WAY NOW.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT ONLY THREE OUT OF TEN CASES THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE WILL BE IDENTIFIED ONLY THREE. THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S 70% OF THEM OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW OF, BUT THEY'RE HAPPENING.

AND JUST TO MENTION, WITH SB FOUR HAPPENING, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO UNDERGROUND AND THAT PUTS THEM IN THAT MUCH MORE DANGER.

SO THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE AFFECTING US AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CONTINUE THIS WORK.

IF I COULD GET TWO MORE EDUCATORS TO DO THE THE PRIMARY PREVENTION WORK OF TRIPLE P THE CLASSES WOULD BE FILLED.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

WELL, AND I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT YOU WOULD ANSWER THAT WAY.

I KNOW THAT LIKE I SAID, YOU'VE DONE THIS WORK FOR FOR A LONG TIME AND 43 YEARS.

YEAH, I WOULD HOPE THAT AS THE COURT HAS A, I WOULD SAY FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK PRETTY PRETTY SOON ON REPROGRAM REPROGRAMED ARPA DOLLARS THAT WE LOOK AT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION AS A SIGNIFICANT NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE I THINK IN A SIMILAR FASHION, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.

I KNOW THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY RELATED, BUT THERE'S OVERLAP ON THE GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION ISSUE THAT WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR TESTIMONY AND YOUR WORK.

AND I JUST WANTED TO HEAR FROM YOU WHILE WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF YOUR PRESENCE TODAY.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT ALWAYS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CLAY-FLORES.

YES. PATRICIA, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

YES. I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HOW YOUR OFFICE IS ACROSS FROM BRECKENRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL.

WE'RE STILL THERE.

YES, MA'AM. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THANKS FOR WEARING PURPLE.

WHAT KIND OF FUNDING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THOSE STAFFERS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WORK? WELL THE KIND OF FUNDING I'M HOPING FOR IS ABOUT 300,000.

I IF I COULD GET 100,000 PER YEAR.

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

OF COURSE, 150,000 WOULD ALLOW ME TO HAVE THE THREE EDUCATORS ON STAFF AND PAY A LITTLE BIT OF ADMINISTRATION.

OKAY. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FILL THOSE CLASSES WITH PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT REALLY NEED PARENTING EDUCATION. WE'RE NOT BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE TO BE GOOD, HEALTHY, YOU KNOW, INFORMED PARENTS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TEACH.

AND SO, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED WORK.

AND YOU'VE BEEN ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S BEEN GRASSROOTS FOR SEVERAL DECADES.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I JUST HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO COMMISSIONER MOODY'S COMMENT.

SO, DOCTOR JACOB, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I MET YOUR WIFE AT BINGE KITCHEN.

DID SHE MENTION THAT TO YOU? YES SHE DID. SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW, BINGE KITCHEN IS A BLACK OWNED VEGAN RESTAURANT, FYI.

LOOK IT UP. OKAY.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT METRO HEALTH HAD A GRANT THAT WAS PAYING FOR THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE, AND IT RAN OUT, AND SO THE COUNTY OFFERED TO PAY FOR THAT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT LINE TOGETHER TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND THAT COSA DENIED THAT.

AND SO NOW WE ARE HAVING OUR SEPARATE HOTLINES.

DO YOU KNOW WHY? WHY THAT WAS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FLORES.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST SUPPORT THE ONGOING WORK WITH THIS INITIATIVE.

SO THIS WAS AN EFFORT THAT THE FUNDING LAPSED LAST SEPTEMBER.

WE DID CONVENE. WAY TO AT LEAST A BEXAR COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO AT LEAST BRIDGE THE FUNDING.

SO FOR NOW, WE ARE AT LEAST PROVIDING THIS SERVICE.

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THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO AT LEAST PROVIDE THIS RESOURCE FOR ITS RESIDENTS.

SO THE GRANT LAPSED.

WE DO HAVE COMMITMENTS FOR INITIATIVES THAT ARE ANCHORED TO THE CITY.

SO AT THIS STAGE, WE'RE STILL JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE THAT.

SO THE WORK GOES ON UNABATED, BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT THE GRANT HAS EXPIRED.

AND WE DO HAVE COMMITMENTS FOR EFFORTS ANCHORED TO THE CITY.

OKAY. BUT IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY THEY DIDN'T ACCEPT FUNDING FROM US SO WE CAN CONTINUE? YEAH, AGAIN, IN THIS FORM HERE.

WE'VE SUBMITTED THE INVOICES TO THE COUNTY.

AGAIN, THE WORK HAS NOT GONE UNINTERRUPTED, BUT.

OKAY, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH TALK INCLUDING FROM THIS DAIS ABOUT COUNTY CITY WORKING TOGETHER.

AND THEN WHEN WE DO IT SEEMED, AT LEAST IN THIS SITUATION, THAT COASTAL PULLED OUT.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY SINCE SINCE WE HAD YOU HERE.

BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

FAIR ENOUGH. COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

LET ME JUST SAY ON THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL, IT IS UP TO US AS LEADERS TO REALLY REVIVE THAT.

I MEAN, ELECTED LEADERS.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS A COURT THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL DEPARTMENT AND RELATIONS.

AND TO THAT END, COURT, I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD HAVE, AS WE HEAD TOWARDS THE SUMMER BUDGET SEASON, A WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE WHO I THINK YOU HAVE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE ON THE COUNCIL FOR.

SO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I THINK COMMISSIONER JUSTIN RODRIGUEZ WOULD BE A GREAT LEADER OF AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL EFFORT BECAUSE OF YOUR SERVICE AT THE CITY. AND I DON'T MEAN TO OBLIGATE YOU.

I'M JUST. AND I AND I, AND I DON'T HAVE BUT YOUR EXPERIENCE AS A COUNCIL PERSON IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND IN THE COUNTY AND I AM ON 25 BOARDS, SO I DON'T NEED ANOTHER BOARD. SO I'M HAPPY TO YIELD.

I THOUGHT YOU HAD. NO. YOU'RE LIMITLESS CAPACITY, COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING.

SO. NO, NO, NO, NO, I'LL CHECK WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

YEAH, BUT BUT BUT WE BUT WE WE ALL SHOULD WORK TOGETHER TO TRY AND REVIVE A PRIORITIES LIST, INCLUDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND AND COLLABORATION AND AND WORK WITH THIS COMMITTEE.

AND SO I WILL TALK TO OUR COLLEAGUES ABOUT REALLY STRENGTHENING THAT BECAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT.

AND IT'S BEEN ECHOED THROUGHOUT THE DAIS.

LET ME ASK PATRICIA CASTILLO TO COME BACK UP FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE I JUST LOVE HAVING YOU HERE IN COURT.

I MEAN, EVERY TIME YOU'RE HERE, I LOVE HAVING YOU.

SO I JUST GOT THE PAGE 17 YOUR OF YOUR ANNUAL STATISTICAL REPORT.

AND I WOULD LOVE FOR YOUR TEAM'S ANALYSIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DON'T SOLELY PROBABLY PUT THIS TOGETHER.

I WOULD LOVE IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS FOR US TO EXAMINE THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH WITHIN THESE TOP ZIP CODES.

I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE STRATEGIC PLANNING OF THE COURT AND THE EFFORT THAT YOU'RE DOING TO HELP US UPSTREAM AGAIN FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE ALLEVIATE THESE LEVERS OF TENSION THAT CAUSE THE SPARKS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO HAPPEN IN OUR BUDGET AND IN OUR IN OUR WORK? YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO WORK ON THE BUDGET TO GET YOU TOWARDS THAT 300,000.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.

OKAY. BUT I WILL WORK WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO, TO TO DO THAT, BECAUSE PARENTING CLASSES ARE MAGICAL.

THEY'RE MAGICAL IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR A FAMILY.

AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT TAUGHT.

AND IT HAS BEEN AN OBSERVATION I'VE HAD HERE OF NOT ONLY THE NEED, BUT ALSO THE TRANSFORMATION THAT TAKES PLACE.

BUT ANY THOUGHTS OF FOR SECONDLY, WHY I HAVE YOU UP HERE? OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE YOUR THOUGHTS, MAYBE JUST INITIALLY ABOUT THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH AND THESE TOP TEN ZIP CODES, IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS FOR THE COURT. THE SECOND QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE FACT THAT I SEE THIRD DEGREE FELONIES INCREASE BETWEEN 2021 AND 2022, INDICATING MORE VIOLENCE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A REACTION FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN TERMS OF PURSUING A HIGHER DEGREE OR THE JUDGES OR THE NATURE OF THE CRIMES THAT ARE BEING COMMITTED. ANY THOUGHTS AND ILLUMINATION ON THAT? WELL, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A COMBINATION OF THINGS, COMMISSIONER.

THE NATURE OF THE BEAST OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS THE MORE YOU TRY TO QUASH IT, THE HARDER IT COMES BACK AT YOU.

OKAY? AND SO PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHY THE NUMBERS NEVER GO DOWN.

AND THE THING IS, IS THAT THAT'S NOT THE NATURE OF THIS BEAST.

THE NUMBERS WILL ALWAYS GO UP AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO DO OUR WORK OF OUTREACH, OF COMMUNICATING IN THE COMMUNITY, OF GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT, TO SEEK HELP, TO SELF-IDENTIFY, TO COME FORWARD, TO NOT BE ASHAMED, TO NOT BE EMBARRASSED.

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BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KEEPS PEOPLE HIDDEN AND SILENT IS THEIR SHAME, AND THEY'RE EMBARRASSED THAT THIS IS HAPPENING TO THEM.

BUT WE CONTINUE TO DEMYSTIFY IT.

WE CONTINUE TO SAY, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, COME FORWARD.

AND SO OUR NUMBERS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO GO UP.

AND THAT'S.

WHAT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT AND BE PREPARED TO RESPOND.

YOU KNOW, OUR QUESTION CAN NO LONGER BE, WHY DOES SHE STAY THERE? WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, WHAT IS IT ABOUT MY COMMUNITY THAT KEEPS HER THERE? RIGHT? AND WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO PICK UP THAT MIRROR AND LOOK AT OURSELVES AND SEE WHERE WE'RE FAILING AND WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE.

AND TO ME, THAT'S WHY THE VIOLENCE ESCALATES, BECAUSE PEOPLE FEEL THE PRESSURE TO STOP IT QUIT.

AND AND SO THE AND AND THEY'RE HAVING TO GIVE UP THEIR POWER.

YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO GIVE UP THEIR POWER WHEN THEY HAVE TO STOP BEING VIOLENT AND ABUSIVE.

AND THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? AND THANK YOU FOR THAT ELOQUENT STATEMENT.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH IN THOSE TOP TEN ZIP CODES? WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN TERMS OF THAT ISSUE? WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WE WE STILL SUFFER FROM POVERTY.

WE'RE STILL THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SEGREGATED CITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL IN THE NATION, BUT THAT'S STILL A HUGE, YOU KNOW, ISSUE THAT WE FACE.

AND YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET MORE CONNECTED TO THE FAMILIES.

I STILL FEEL THAT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF GAPS IN TERMS OF US BEING ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THE FAMILIES.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED PEOPLE ON THE GROUND DOING OUTREACH TO THESE FAMILIES AND IDENTIFYING THEM AND HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE THIS WAY.

SO POVERTY, EDUCATION AND THE FACT, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM FOUR GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S IT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S TERRIBLE.

AND TO BREAK THAT INTERGENERATIONAL ASPECT OF THIS WORK, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR OUTREACH HAS TO BE INTENSE.

ONE OF THE GREAT SEMINARS I'VE GONE TO IN THE LAST YEAR IN TRYING TO GET IDEAS ABOUT HELPING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, WAS A SEMINAR THAT THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLACK COUNTY OFFICIALS PUT ON.

AND IT IT WILL BE SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL IN THE SOUTH, BUT ALEXANDER YANG INTRODUCED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN GUARANTEED INCOME. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY BE INNOVATIVE FOR OUR APPROACH IS TO LOOK AT A SCIENTIFIC SOCIAL STUDY OF COHORT OF FOLKS WHO COME THROUGH YOUR PROGRAM WHO ARE GIVEN SOME ASSISTANCE.

I WILL SAY TO THOSE CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS WHO MAY OPPOSE THIS, WHAT THEY HAVE FOUND IN THEIR DATA, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY COUNTIES AND CITIES YEARS AHEAD OF US, IS THAT MANY OF THE FAMILIES WITH THIS GUARANTEED INCOME BECOME ENTREPRENEURS? YES, THEY DO BUSINESS PEOPLE.

YES THEY DO. THEY BECOME INDEPENDENT IN THEIR LIFE AND THEY ARE NOT A DRAG ANY LONGER ON THE SYSTEM.

AND SO I THINK THAT MAY FLIP SOME CONSERVATIVE VOICES THAT MAY THINK YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE MONEY TO YOUR FRIENDS.

YEAH. AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

THERE IS A LOT OF DATA THAT CAN BE VERY POWERFUL FOR THE POVERTY ALLEVIATION.

BUT WE'VE BEEN SLOW HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.

SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO TRY TO CARVE OUT, WITH THE HELP OF UTSA AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES, AN ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC STUDY AND TO FOLLOW FAMILIES OVER A 5 TO 10 YEAR PERIOD.

AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, YOU KNOW THERE IS A COHORT WITH SOME FUNDS AND WITHOUT? I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE WORK OF JANIE BARRERA AND LIFT FUND AND WHAT SHE HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO FOR FAMILIES BY GIVING THEM A LOAN AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THOSE LOANS, AND CREATING BUSINESSES AND BECOMING ENTREPRENEURS AND BECOMING SELF-SUSTAINING.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT EXAMPLE HERE, RIGHT? AND SO WHY NOT PEOPLE DO MUCH BETTER WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, CAN FUNCTION, CAN TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE TO BE DEPENDENT ON SYSTEMS. AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH YOU.

FINALLY IT DAWNS ON ME THAT THIS FOUR GENERATION CONVERSATION YOU JUST SAID INDICATES THE CULTURE NEEDS TO BE ATTACKED.

AND IT'S A WORD. BAD WORD, BAD WORD, JUDGE BAD.

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I MEAN, COMMISSIONER, IT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH.

YES. DEALT WITH. YES.

THERE WE GO. AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO DO ANY KIND OF ADVERTISING CAMPAIGNS THAT ADDRESS CONFLICT RESOLUTION THAT WOULD BE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY FOR.

WORD GENERATIONAL CHANGES IN CHANGING THAT CULTURE.

SO IT HAS TO BE STUDIED AND THEN IT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED, PERHAPS IN MEDIA AND WITH FAITH BASED AND OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH WORKERS AND THINGS THAT ARE INFLUENCERS IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE AND THEIR BEHAVIOR.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU ALL DID MAKE.

YOU MADE A RECOMMENDATION IN THE PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS.

YEAH. TO USE THE WORD AGAIN.

SO, YEAH. YEAH, JUST A THOUGHT.

YEAH. AND WE ARE ALSO DOING A LOT OF OUTREACH INTO THE FAITH COMMUNITY BECAUSE FAITH LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE A POWERFUL PRESENCE AND VOICE.

AND SO A LOT OF WORK IS BEING DONE THROUGH THE CITY'S FAITH COLLABORATIVE TO ADDRESS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AS WELL.

AND SO WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT UP AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH THIS ISSUE AND STICKING WITH US.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR APRIL 1ST WILL BE 44 YEARS.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

ALL YOUR SERVICE. LET ME JUDGE DIAZ I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ISSUE.

WE HAVE A FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM FOR ACTION IN REGARDS TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

BUT LET ME CLOSE THIS CONVERSATION TO STAY AND GIVE SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND AS TO WHAT CCTV STARTED.

OBVIOUSLY, I CREATED IT.

I CREATED IT PRIOR TO COVID, AND I APPOINTED JUDGE DIAZ, MONIQUE DIAZ DOCTOR COLLEEN BRIDGER AT THAT TIME, WHO HAS BEEN SUCCEEDED BY MARIA VILLAGOMEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR THE STATE OF SAN ANTONIO.

THE PURPOSE WAS TO BRING ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS AND TO BE EVIDENCE BASED AND TO GIVE A VOICE.

THAT WAS MY MAIN DESIRE FOR CCTV, THAT THE VICTIMS HAVE A VOICE, BECAUSE WE HEARD QUITE CLEARLY AT THE TIME PRIOR TO CREATION THAT THEIR VOICE WAS NOT BEING HEARD.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO POINT FINGERS.

IT ISN'T A FINGER POINTING.

THAT'S THE THING. I WANT THE COURT AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM TO RECOGNIZE WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE IS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER.

SO, JUDGE DIAZ, I WANT TO APPLAUD THAT YOU'VE HUNG IN THERE AND THAT YOU BROUGHT THE CCTV HERE TODAY ON A PROGRESS REPORT.

I'M PLEASED WITH THE FACT THAT YOU ALL ARE STILL TOGETHER, BUT I THINK THERE'S BEEN A START OF A CONVERSATION THAT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

NOW, I HEAR SOME REALLY GREAT IDEAS FROM THE DAIS HERE, FROM MY COLLEAGUES.

BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO REMIND THE MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE NEED TO FIX WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF GAPS, A LOT OF FLAWS.

WE'RE STILL QUITE SILOED.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF CLAUDE DON'T SEE CLAUDE.

JACOBS. HE HAD TO STEP AWAY FOR A MEETING WITH THE MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO LET I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR THEIR COMMITMENT AND THEIR SUPPORT.

THEY HAVE QUITE BEEN INVOLVED AND INVESTED WITH THE CCTV THROUGH THE METRO.

METRO HEALTH AND LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, WHICH FOLLOWS A LINE, WHAT COMMISSIONER CALVERT SAID FROM SOCIAL DETERMINANTS AND WHAT THEY ALSO DID THAT I THINK IS REALLY, REALLY POWERFUL.

AND PERHAPS SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND AND SOMETIMES MISUNDERSTAND.

THEY INVESTED IN PUBLIC RELATIONS AND A MEDIA CAMPAIGN, AND I THINK THEIR MEDIA CAMPAIGN WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WAS UNACCEPTABLE.

BUT I ALSO APPRECIATED THAT THEY PUT A SPIN OF THAT.

IT SHOULD BE ABOUT FAMILY.

IT SHOULD BE ABOUT LOVE, IT SHOULD BE ABOUT RESPECT, AND THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN CULTURALLY CHANGE THOSE BELIEFS AND ATTITUDES, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL THEN CHANGE THE PATH OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

AND SO, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS, I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, JUDGE DIAZ BRIEFED ME ON THIS REPORT AND ANTICIPATE AND THEN PRIOR TO THIS HEARING A MEETING AND WE HAD REALLY SOME REALLY GREAT CANDID, FRANK CONVERSATIONS I INTEND TO SIT DOWN WITH

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JUDGE DIAZ AND GO OVER SOME OF THE IDEAS AND SOME OF THE STATISTICS.

AND SO BEFORE WE START GOING DOWN PATHS OF WHAT CAN WE DO THIS OR CAN WE DO THIS, LET US REALLY TAKE A DEEP DIVE AND SAYING, IS OUR SYSTEM STILL? LISTENING. HEARING THE VICTIMS. THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, AND I KNOW THAT OUR ADVOCATES PROBABLY HAVE A VERY STRONG OPINION ON THAT.

SO WE CAN COME UP WITH THE GREAT IDEAS.

BUT AT THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SPECIFICALLY THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, THE PARENTS OF THESE CHILDREN ARE BEING AFFECTED AND WE'RE NOT HEARING THEM, THEN WE'RE NOT CHANGING.

AND I'LL BE REAL BLUNT, WHAT'S WHAT I FOUND TODAY WITH THE STRAT CONVERSATION AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE WAS THE FACT OF HOW WE CAN CHANGE THE SYSTEM.

BUT WE STILL NEED TO INVEST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE STILL NEED TO INVEST IN MENTAL HEALTH.

WE NEED TO INVEST IN THE PROGRAMS THAT PATRICIA NEEDS.

SO WE GOT A LOT OF NEEDS BEFORE WE START GOING OFF AND SAYING, WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO? SO JUDGE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO TO TRY TO PUT A CLOSURE TO THIS CONVERSATION IS THIS IS A START.

I KNOW THAT PERHAPS COVID SUPPRESSED THE CONVERSATIONS.

WE OBVIOUSLY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT DYNAMIC.

BUT AS WE COME OUT OF POST COVID AND WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT THE RESOURCES AND UNDERSTANDING ARPA MONEY IS RUNNING OUT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH I THINK THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WILL ADDRESS THAT WE CAN INVEST, GET UPSTREAM, LOOK AT THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS THAT AGGRAVATE THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

AND PATRICIA, RIGHT.

IT'S LIKE CRIME.

IT AIN'T GOING AWAY.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT JUST DO STUPID STUFF, MAKE BAD DECISIONS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY CHILDREN AND FAMILIES GET HURT IN THIS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT SO THAT WE CAN GET UPSTREAM ON THIS SITUATION.

SO, COLLEAGUES, I'M JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE START COMING UP, I AM GOING TO RELY ON DOCTOR GUERRERO.

AND THAT'S THE OTHER DYNAMIC THAT'S DIFFERENT TODAY IS THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEALTH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DIRECTOR WHO'S GOT AN EXPERTISE THAT IS FOLDED THIS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INITIATIVE WITHIN HER NEW DEPARTMENT, SHE IS HAS ACCESS TO THE ARPA MONEY. SO, JUDGE DIAZ, PERHAPS THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN REALLY MAKE THE CHANGES AND THE OFFER THE SUPPORT FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE TRULY EFFECTIVE FROM AN EVIDENCE BASED OUTCOMES.

I DO NEED TO LET EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO DO AND SUPPORT THE FAMILIES AND DO GREAT STUFF, BUT WE NEED EVIDENCE BASED OUTCOMES.

I NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE RELYING ON SCIENCE, THEY'RE RELYING ON PROFESSIONALS, THAT THEY HAVE PROFESSIONAL STAFF, THEY HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND I'LL BE HONEST, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER MOODY HERE.

HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A RETURN AND INVESTMENT.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO SEE TOO.

WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROPERLY ADMINISTRATING AND TAKING CARE OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE TO YOU, JUDGE DIAZ, TO SAY, LOOK, YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD.

THANK YOU, JUDGE, FOR ALL OF YOUR REMARKS.

TWO THINGS THAT I THINK WILL SUPPORT THE EFFORTS AND THE GOALS THAT YOU JUST STATED.

THE COMMISSIONER CALVERT STATED THAT YOU'VE ALL MENTIONED.

ONE IS THE COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM'S RESPONSE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT YOU ALL, AGAIN, I BELIEVE, VOTED IN SUPPORT OF, AT LEAST INITIALLY, WILL PROVIDE YOU THE DATA.

TWO WE WILL COME BACK TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL AFTER WE RELEASE OUR APRIL PROGRESS REPORT, AND WE WILL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AT THAT TIME.

BUT AFTER COVID, WE, AS THE CDV, AGREED THAT WE NEEDED TO CONDUCT A NEW ASSESSMENT OF OUR COMMUNITIES GAPS IN IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND MATCH THOSE UP WITH EVIDENCE BASED STRATEGIES THAT WE COULD PURSUE TO ADDRESS THOSE GAPS.

WE COLLABORATED WITH METRO HEALTH AS PART OF THEIR COMPREHENSIVE VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN.

ONE COMPONENT OF THAT IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION.

SO IN COLLABORATION WITH THEM, WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED A COMMUNITY WIDE ASSESSMENT OF GAPS MATCHED UP WITH EVIDENCE BASED STRATEGIES.

FROM THAT, WE, AS THE CDV, HAVE SELECTED STRATEGIES WE WILL TAKE ON IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL ON THOSE.

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ONE OF THOSE INCLUDES A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY TO COMMISSIONER CALVERT POINT.

SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL ON ACHIEVING THOSE GOALS.

AND WE THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CAN WE GIVE THESE THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE TRENCHES, A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET MOVING.

[4.c. 10:45 a.m.: Presentation, discussion, and appropriate action related to the implementation of the Bexar County Domestic Violence Intervention program in the Department of Public Health to provide case management and other supportive services to victims of domestic violence utilizing American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds in the amount of $3,927,894; including appropriate budgetary transfer. (Estimated Presentation Time: 15 minutes) (Andrea Guerrero)]

PRESENTATION. DISCUSSION.

APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BEXAR COUNTY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM AND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH TO PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT, OTHER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE UTILIZING AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT ARPA FUNDS, AND THE AMOUNT OF $3,927,894, INCLUDING APPROPRIATE BUDGET TRANSFER.

CAN YOU JUST GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER? YES, SIR. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WAS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE INTRODUCTION TO MY PRESENTATION.

SO I CAN DO WITHOUT A LOT OF THE EXPLANATIONS.

SO AGAIN, THE TIMELINE, THE PROGRAM WAS CONCEIVED AS A RESULT OF THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO ADDRESS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

IT WAS FUNDING CDC FUNDING COVID 19 DISPARITIES GRANT FUNDING THAT STARTED IN AUGUST OF 2021.

AS THE FUNDS ENDED IN SEPTEMBER, 30TH OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.

THAT WAS WHEN WE RECOGNIZED THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS A RESOURCE THAT WASN'T DISCONTINUED FOR FOLKS WHO LIVED IN UNINCORPORATED BEXAR COUNTY.

AND SO WE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY SO AS NOT TO HAVE TOO LONG OF A GAP IN SERVICES TO EXTEND THOSE SERVICES FROM OCTOBER 2023 THROUGH MARCH OF THIS YEAR. SO AT THE END OF MARCH OF THIS YEAR, THOSE CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES FROM THE CITY WILL END FOR UNINCORPORATED BEXAR COUNTY.

SO THIS PROPOSAL IS OUR EFFORT AT BRINGING THIS PROGRAM IN-HOUSE.

YOU'VE ALREADY HAD A VERY EXTENSIVE EXPLANATION OF HOW THIS WORKS.

THE MED COMM LINE IS LOCATED AT STRACK.

IT IS FUNDED BY SO US UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM IS THE ACTUAL FUNDER OF THAT LINE.

AND IT IS LOCATED AT MED COM.

IT'S A RESOURCE THAT'S USED BY BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHEN THEY ARRIVE ON SCENE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL.

FOLKS ARE CLASSIFIED OR CATEGORIZED BY RISK LEVEL, BY PROVIDER, BY GIVING THE DALE ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS A DANGER ASSESSMENT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT VICTIM IS HIGH RISK OR NOT.

THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT HIGH RISK, ARE NOT AT RISK.

THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE AT RISK OR HIGH RISK.

FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE HIGH RISK, THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY ALERTED OR A CASE MANAGER IS IMMEDIATELY ALERTED FROM MEDCOM TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THAT VICTIM WITHIN AN HOUR. AND THERE ARE SOME LAYERS OF BACKUP IN CASE THAT CASE MANAGER.

SO SUPERVISORS ARE BACKUP TO THOSE CASE MANAGERS.

THE PROGRAM MANAGERS ALSO BACK UP TO THOSE SUPERVISORS SO THAT MAKE SURE THAT VICTIMS ARE ADDRESSED IN A VERY TIMELY MANNER, BECAUSE SAFETY PLANNING IN THAT IMMEDIATE TIME, MAKING CONTACT NUMBER ONE AND THEN THE IMMEDIATE SAFETY PLANNING IS ESSENTIAL.

SO THE GOALS AND OUTCOMES FOR FOR THIS PROPOSAL IS AND OUR, OUR PROPOSAL IS TO MAINTAIN THE PROGRAM IN MUCH THE SAME WAY IT'S BEEN OPERATED WHEN IT WAS UNDER METRO HEALTH, JUST TO MAINTAIN THE 24 OVER SEVEN 365 COVERAGE OF THE NAVIGATION LINE TO RESPOND WITHIN AN HOUR FOR ALL THOSE THAT ARE NOT CONSIDERED HIGH RISK, TO RESPOND WITHIN 28 TO 48 HOURS.

TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE SAFETY PLANNING FOR AT LEAST 98% OF THE CLIENTS REFERRED.

THE OTHER 2% ARE THOSE WHO EITHER DECLINE SERVICES OR AT A LOSS TO FOLLOW UP, WHERE THEY JUST BASICALLY SAY, I DON'T NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND SO WE ESTIMATE THAT THAT MIGHT BE ABOUT 2% OF THE FOLKS THAT WE COME INTO CONTACT WITH OUTCOMES AGAIN, AND YOU'LL HAVE WITH YOUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, WE'VE PROVIDED A LOT OF THE OUTPUT, THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT THAT ARE SEEN OVER THERE FROM 2022 AND 2023, THE NUMBER THAT ARE HIGH RISK AND BUT IN THE LONG TERM, TO CREATE A, AN ASSESSMENT BASED ON EMPOWERMENT AND SAFETY.

AND THIS IS A STANDARDIZED TOOL.

IT'S A VALIDATED TOOL, EVIDENCE BASED THAT IS INTENDED TO DECREASE AND PREVENT REVICTIMIZATION.

IT IMPROVES PERSONAL SAFETY, ESPECIALLY IN THE SHORT TERM.

IT'S MEANT TO IMPROVE MENTAL HEALTH AND FAMILY FUNCTION, IMPROVE CLIENT RESILIENCY, AND INCREASE A SYSTEM OF SUPPORT FOR VICTIMS. AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A TOOL.

AND SO IT REALLY IS A TOOL.

WHEN YOU TALK TO A VICTIM TO SAY, DO YOU FEEL MORE SUPPORTED? DO YOU FEEL SAFE? DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE SITUATION? HAVE YOU ACCESS SERVICES THAT WILL ENABLE YOU TO DO THAT.

AND SO THIS IS A SELF REPORT TOOL THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL CLIENT WOULD RECEIVE.

AND THEN WE WOULD BASE OUR OUTCOMES OF SUCCESS ON THAT.

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BUT ALSO TO IMPROVE OUR INTERAGENCY DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE CHIEF SANFORD HERE WHO HAS BEEN ESSENTIAL IN THIS PLANNING STRIKE.

I THINK KELLY IS STILL HERE.

OH. HI, SHERIFF. SHERIFF'S TO TO ASSIST US WITH NOT JUST TRACKING THE MEDCOM DATA, BUT ALSO ANY KIND OF BCSO CALL DATA.

SO ANY TIME, ANY CALL DATA THAT MIGHT HELP US IMPROVE THESE THAT ARE MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY RELATED TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, BUT ALSO FAMILY VIOLENCE AND COMMUNITY VIOLENCE AS WELL.

AND THEN AS JUDGE DIAZ MENTIONED, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR CIVIL AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE RELATED OUTCOMES RELATED TO PROTECTIVE ORDERS AND ALL OF THE OTHER OUTCOMES THAT HAPPEN ONCE VICTIMS AND THEIR PERPETRATORS ENTER THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

FOR THE PROJECT BUDGET.

THIS IS A BUDGET FOR THE 33 MONTHS LEFT IN THE ARPA PERIOD.

SO THIS IS THROUGH THE END OF 2026.

THE SALARIES WILL INCLUDE 12 CASE MANAGERS.

AND THOSE 12 CASE MANAGERS ARE BASED ON VOLUME.

INPUT THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU FROM FROM STRACK AND FROM BCSO.

EACH CASE MANAGER, THEIR AVERAGE CASELOAD IS 10 TO 15 CASES.

THE VICTIMS AND CLIENTS WILL STAY WITH A CASE MANAGER FOR AS LITTLE AS SIX WEEKS FOR IMMEDIATE SAFETY PLANNING FOR AS LONG AS 18 MONTHS, FOR SOME LONG TERM, LONGER TERM CASE MANAGEMENT.

SO THE AVERAGE COULD BE A LITTLE UNDER A YEAR.

FOR MOST FOLKS WHO NEED THOSE SERVICES.

THE TECHNOLOGY, EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES ARE RELATED TO LAPTOPS, TELEPHONES AND THE CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE WILL NEED TO TO HAVE.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH IT TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE OFF THE SHELF SO THAT WE CAN DO THIS VERY QUICKLY.

SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THOSE INCLUDE HOTELS, H-E-B GIFT CARDS, ANY OF THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO THAT, SOME OF THAT IMMEDIATE SAFETY PLANNING? IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN WITHIN THAT FIRST DAY, BUT FOR THE DURATION OF OF THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROGRAM, THESE ARE THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT THEY WOULD NEED FOR A TOTAL OF $3.9 MILLION.

THIS IS A RECOMMENDED MOTION APPROVAL OF ARPA FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3.9 MILLION TO SUPPORT THE CREATION OF THIS PROGRAM.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

MOTION BY CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ASK? GOOD JOB. I'M GLAD WE PICKED UP THE HOTLINE SINCE KHOZA DENIED ALLOWING US TO PAY FOR THEIRS.

IT'S MUCH NEEDED AND JUST THANK YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THEIR DEPUTIES AND THE GOOD WORK THAT THE NEW DEPARTMENT'S DOING.

SO THANKS AGAIN, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER MOODY.

JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.

LOOKING AT THE DATA YOU PROVIDED, WHICH IS WHICH IS GREAT HERE.

THE 1500 WAS THAT FOR UNINCORPORATED BEXAR COUNTY AND THE CITY COMBINED, OR JUST UNINCORPORATED BEXAR COUNTY? OKAY. AND I SAW YOUR DATES FOR THIS FUNDING IS THROUGH DECEMBER OF 26.

CAN CAN WE JUST CLARIFY ON THE THE ARPA LIMITATIONS? ARE THOSE F Y CONSTRAINTS OR CALENDAR YEAR CONSTRAINTS? CALENDAR IT'S CALENDAR YEAR.

OKAY. SO.

OKAY. AND ON THE SECOND PAGE OF DATA UNDER LANGUAGE LOOKED LIKE YOU HAVE 13 TIMES MORE ENGLISH THAN SPANISH.

YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO'VE USED THE THE PROGRAM.

HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO THAT OR, LIKE, WHAT THAT MEANS? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT NECESSARILY RELATES.

IT SEEMS VERY HIGH TO ME LIKE THAT DISPARITY.

CAN YOU MAYBE SPEAK TO THAT? SURE. I MEAN, IN IN ALMOST ANY PROGRAM, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE A CONSIDERATION FOR FOLKS WHOSE FIRST LANGUAGE IS NOT ENGLISH.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS ARE GOING TO SPEAK ENGLISH, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME TIMES WHEN WE MIGHT NEED A SPANISH SPEAKER OR PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS FOR A CASE WORKER. FOR CASE MANAGERS IS TO BE BILINGUAL JUST BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOU'RE THE IF YOU'RE THE ONE ON CALL BECAUSE THE CASE MANAGER WE'RE SCHEDULING, WE'RE PROPOSING TO SCHEDULE THEM ABOUT 2 TO 3 TIMES A MONTH TO BE ON CALL.

AND IF IF YOU'RE THE CASE MANAGER THAT'S ON CALL AND YOU DON'T SPEAK SPANISH.

THEN WE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS FOR A BACKUP SUPERVISOR TO BE A SPANISH SPEAKER.

THE REASON FOR THIS, IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF SAN ANTONIO AND OUR DEMOGRAPHICS FROM BEING IN A.

WELL. NO, NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THE SERVICE.

MY POINT IS JUST IS IT FULLY UNDERSTOOD OR UTILIZED? CAN I RESPOND TO THAT, COMMISSIONER? SURE. GO AHEAD.

SO I BELIEVE I'M NOT THE EXPERT IN STATS, BUT I BELIEVE PART OF THAT IS THE HISTORY OF RACISM IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS AND THE REST OF OUR COUNTRY. PATRICIA WAS HERE TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THE NEW STATE LAW THAT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH AGAINST PEOPLE WHO

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LOOK, I CAN LOOK AS IF I'M NOT FROM HERE.

AND SO OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WHO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH AS THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE, THEY ARE AFRAID TO CALL, THEY'D RATHER NOT USE RESOURCES. AND SO THAT IS A LARGE PART OF IT.

PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO CALL THEY DON'T WANT TO USE THE RESOURCES AND THEY'D RATHER JUST FIGURE IT OUT THEMSELVES.

AND THAT'S WHY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CONTINUES TO HAVE SUCH HIGH NUMBERS AND CONTINUES TO BE SUCH A HUGE ISSUE IN OUR COUNTY.

THAT IS TRUE. YES, COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

SO ANYWAY, THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE UNDER UTILIZED FOR A PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY.

RIGHT? I'M NOT NECESSARILY MAKING EXPLANATION FOR WHY THAT IS, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA AND IT DOES SEEM THAT THAT IT'S UNDER UTILIZED POTENTIALLY.

BUT THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THOSE INTERACTIONS.

I MEAN, THE THE SHERIFF, FOR ONE AND OTHERS WHO COULD COULD PROBABLY BE A RESOURCE TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WHO, EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WELL, AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS RESOURCE HAPPENS AS A RESULT OF A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL BY BCSO.

SO THIS THIS MEDCOM LINE IS NOT A PHONE NUMBER THAT THE PUBLIC CAN CALL WHEN BCSO ARRIVES ON SCENE, WHETHER IT'S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL OR IT BECOMES APPARENT THAT THERE IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PRESENT WHEN THEY ARRIVE THERE, THAT IS WHEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTY HAS THE DISCRETION TO PROVIDE A DANGER ASSESSMENT.

AND THEN THE THE DEPUTY MAKES CONTACT WITH MEDCOM.

SO IT'S NOT A RESOURCE THAT WE CAN PUBLICIZE AND SAY, EVERYONE CALL THIS LINE.

IT IS A MEDCOM THAT IS LOCATED AT SRAC.

SO THE DISPARITY IN SPANISH SPEAKERS, IT REALLY IS JUST THE CALLS THAT ARE BEING RESPONDED TO.

BUT AGAIN, TO COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES POINT, OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WHOSE LANGUAGE IS NOT FIRST LANGUAGE IS NOT ENGLISH ARE RELUCTANT TO CALL FOR HELP AT TIMES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH.

I UNDERSTAND JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT AND NOT AGREEING WITH MY COLLEAGUES REASONINGS BEHIND IT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? ONE QUESTION I HAVE MAYBE CHIEF OR THE SHERIFF ONE OR DOCTOR GARRETT, WHEN WE SAY UNINCORPORATED AREAS, ARE WE INCLUDING SUBURBAN CITIES? AND IF IF YES OKAY.

THAT'S GREAT. IF NOT, HOW ARE WE ABLE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR OUR 26 SUBURBAN CITIES WITH OUR CURRENT PROGRAM, OR AM I OPENING ANOTHER? CAN I THINK THAT THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE SIMILAR TO HOW IT WAS WITH THE SMART TEAM THAT KELLY PROVIDED EARLIER, SO THAT IF IT'S A SUBURBAN CITY THAT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, SO YOU'RE NOT.

I'M SORRY.

I GUESS IT'S GETTING LATE IN THE MORNING.

YES, THERE IS A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT.

EVERYONE IS BEING. IS THE SUBURBAN CITIES INCLUDED? YES. LET ME HEAR FROM CHIEF OR SHERIFF WHOEVER WANTS TO TELL ME HOW THIS WHAT THIS THING LOOKS LIKE.

WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE.

TO COVER AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN.

YES, SIR. JUDGE, WE HAVE MEETINGS ONCE A MONTH, AND THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS ABOUT EXPANDING TO THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY.

AND AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, WE WE DO NOT COVER THOSE.

FAIR ENOUGH. BUT, SHERIFF, DO WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO HOW DO WE INCLUDE IS IT A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE OR JUST OR DON'T TELL ME IT'S MORE MANPOWER.

IT'S MORE NO, I THINK IT'S MORE OF DO THEY DO THEY WANT THE SERVICE.

AND SO I MEAN, LOOK, IF THEY WERE TO CALL ME TODAY FROM UNIVERSAL CITY AND SAY THEY NEED HELP, WE'RE GOING TO DROP EVERYTHING WE GOT AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO ABSOLUTELY, YOU'VE GOT THAT COMMITMENT FROM ME THAT IF ANY OF THE SUBURBAN CITIES NEED US, WE'RE THERE.

I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS.

MOTION CARRIES.

GET THIS PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT TIME CERTAIN IS PRESENTATION DISCUSSION APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING INCENTIVE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY JCB MANUFACTURING INC.

[4.d. 11:45 a.m.: Presentation, discussion and appropriate action regarding an Incentive Application submitted by JCB Manufacturing, Inc. (Estimated Presentation Time: 10 minutes) (David Marquez)]

MR. DAVID MARQUEZ, IS THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM? YES, SIR. ALL.

YES. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU. JUDGE.

SO WE ARE SUPER EXCITED.

THAT JCB IS FINALLY HERE.

WELCOME. SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH GREATER ATX.

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I KNOW CARLOS IS HERE.

CARLOS. OH, CARLOS IS STILL HERE.

I WAS LIKE, MAYBE HE HAD TO LEAVE.

AND OF COURSE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT'S TEAM.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR Y'ALL'S WORK.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF NOW, AND WE ARE EXCITED THAT JCB HAS CHOSEN TO CALL PRECINCT ONE HOME.

AND THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT A NEW COMPANY COMING INTO PRECINCT ONE.

IT'S DEFINITELY THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR TEXAS FAME AND TEXAS FAST TO DO TRAINING PROGRAMS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.

AND IT'S NOT MINIMUM MINIMUM WAGE JOBS.

IT'S NOT EVEN WHAT WE CONSIDER LIVING WAGE JOBS.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BECOME EDUCATED AND AND GET PAID WHILE THEY ARE TRAINED AND ALSO CREATE CAREER PATHS.

THIS IS ALSO ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEN INCENTIVE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT WE WILL BE PASSING SOON IS ALSO ABOUT BRINGING MUCH NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE INTO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF BEXAR COUNTY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT UNTIL IT'S NO LONGER NEEDED.

SO WITH THESE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, BRINGS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BRING BETTER RESOURCES THAT WE CONTINUE TO NEED FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS OF PRECINCT ONE.

AND JCB IS PUTTING IN, I BELIEVE, A $285 MILLION INVESTMENT WITH AN ECONOMIC IMPACT OF $10 BILLION OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

SO WE ARE SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS.

AND AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING ABATEMENTS MONEY THAT WE'RE NOT DRAWING ANYWAY BUT IN TEN YEARS WE WILL BUT SOUTHWEST ISD WELL, YOU GUYS WILL BE LOCATED.

YOU GUYS WILL BE PAYING ALL THE TAXES THERE.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR FOR THE KIDS IN SOUTHWEST ISD AND OF COURSE US AND ACD.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

AND WE'RE JUST EXCITED TO HAVE YOU.

SO WELCOME TO PRECINCT ONE.

WELCOME TO BEXAR COUNTY.

ALL RIGHT, DAVID, LET'S GET THE PRESENTATION.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.

WE APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

WE DO HAVE QUITE A LARGE GROUP HERE.

I REALIZE IT'S BEEN A LONG MORNING FOR YOU ALL, SO I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF NAME OUT THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE BY GROUP.

WE DO HAVE FOLKS FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

SHAY HOPKINS IS THEIR LEAD HERE, AS WELL AS ALFRED A NUMBER OF FOLKS FROM GREATER ATX.

COMMISSIONER, YOU MENTIONED CARLOS HARKIN AND OF COURSE, SARAH RUSH, THEIR CHIEF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICER, AS WELL AS RAMONITA MATA PEREIRA.

MY TEAM IS HERE AS WELL, WHO'VE DONE ALL THE WORK.

AS IS ALWAYS THE CASE LEADING UP TO THIS EFFORT AND SEVERAL OTHERS THAT ARE HERE PRESENT WITH US.

AGAIN, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE A VERY LARGE GROUP SUPPORTING THIS ITEM, AS WELL AS THE ITEM COMING UP SOMETIME THIS AFTERNOON WITH OUR TEAM.

ASK OUR TEXAS-MEXICO AUTOMOTIVE SUPER CLUSTER.

THIS IS REALLY A CASE STUDY IN THAT TYPE OF PROJECT.

JCB IS HERE TO BRING A FACTORY TO BUILD PRODUCTS FOR THE US AND NORTH AMERICAN MARKET.

AND WE'LL LOOK AT SUPPLY CHAINS UP AND DOWN THROUGH TEXAS AND INTO NORTHEASTERN MEXICO.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THIS AFTERNOON.

BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THEY ARE THE LARGEST PRIVATELY OWNED MANUFACTURER OF CONSTRUCTION, AGRICULTURAL AND INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT.

AND JUST BY CHANCE, WE WERE NOTICING THAT THERE IS A JCB PRODUCT WORKING HARD RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

SO VERY, VERY POPULAR PROJECT PRODUCT VERY WELL RECEIVED IN THE MARKET.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AN OPERATION IN SAVANNAH, AS WELL AS 22 OTHER COMPANIES, COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.

THEY'RE REALLY QUITE AN INTERNATIONAL OPERATION HEADQUARTERED IN THE UNITED KINGDOM.

THEY MAKE OVER 300 PRODUCTS FOR CUSTOMERS IN 150 COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.

SO THIS IS NOT A STARTUP OPERATION.

THEY'RE NOT THAT FAMILIAR TO US YET.

I THINK ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES THEY HAVE IS TO RAISE THE THE AWARENESS AND BRAND EQUITY OF JCB, BOTH AS A PRODUCT, BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES AS AN EMPLOYER AND AS A BUYER OF OF COMPONENTS AND PRODUCTS FOR THE SUPPLY CHAIN THIS WILL EXPAND THEIR NORTH AMERICAN MANUFACTURING FOOTPRINT AND BRINGING PRODUCTS THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY MANUFACTURING OVERSEAS INTO NORTH AMERICA.

THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE WITH THE CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT, THE INVESTMENT EXCUSE ME, INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL IS BRINGING A LOT OF THIS ENERGY TO ADVANCED MANUFACTURING.

THE THE PRODUCTS PRODUCED HERE WILL BE INITIALLY TELESCOPIC HANDLERS AND TWO VARIANTS OF THEIR AERIAL WORK PLATFORMS. JUST TO SHOW YOU THEIR ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY PRODUCTS IN THE UK.

AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A SHORT VIDEO WE CAN PLAY THAT.

IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE VOLUME? YES, THERE'S AUDIO FOR IT AS WELL.

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IF NOT, DAVID CAN. THE JCP DAVID CAN SING DURING THE TIME.

I'M JUST KIDDING. I ALREADY THREATENED IF YOU'D HAVE TO SING GOD SAVE THE KING.

BUT HE DIDN'T LIKE THAT.

LET'S GIVE IT ONE MORE SHOT.

WE'LL SEND YOU A COPY OF THIS VIDEO OR A LINK TO IT AS WELL.

WE SENT A DELEGATION TO THEIR SAVANNAH FACILITY, AND EVERYONE CAME BACK EXCEPTIONALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE NATURE OF THE COMPANY, THEIR HISTORY.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO FIT IN VERY WELL WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY'VE INVITED US TO VISIT WITH THEM IN THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN THE UK.

AND SO WE'LL BE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY AS THAT ARISES.

FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC.

IT'S A LONG STANDING COMPANY THAT WAS REALLY FOUNDED RIGHT AFTER WORLD WAR TWO MAKING PRIMARILY AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT AT THE TIME.

STILL FAMILY OWNED THE BEE AND JCB IS FOR BAMFORD.

AND SO THAT'S THE FAMILY NAME, THE FAMILY BRAND AND A VERY PROUD COMPANY DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE UK AND INDIA IS ALSO ANOTHER PRIMARY PLATFORM FOR THEM.

SO NORTH AMERICA I THINK REPRESENTS A KIND OF REAL EXPANSION OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THEM LOCATING THAT OPERATION HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE TYPE OF PRODUCTS THEY MAKE.

WE'VE SEEN THEM IN PERSON.

AGAIN, I MENTIONED THERE'S ONE WORKING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND IT'S A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY PROUD TO MAKE HERE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MANUFACTURING THAN YOU SEE IN THE ASSEMBLY LINE WORK THAT YOU MIGHT SEE AT A TOYOTA OR A NAVISTAR A BIT MORE CELL BASED AND HANDS ON.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK WITH THEM ON A VARIETY OF WORKFORCE ISSUES.

WE HAVE REPRESENTATION HERE FROM ESSAR WORKS AS WELL AS BEEN WORKING WITH MIKE RAMSEY AT AT ESSAR READY TO WORK.

THE PROJECT WILL SERVE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AS AN EXPANSION OF THEIR FOOTPRINT.

THE INVESTMENT COMMISSIONER, AS YOU MENTIONED, A VERY HEALTHY $269 MILLION 1580 NEW JOBS WITH THE BASE BASE HOURLY WAGE OF 2181. I WANT TO MENTION COMMISSIONERS THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR PERMISSION TO NEGOTIATE.

SO SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE STILL A BIT IN FLUX.

WE'LL GET THE PRECISE NUMBERS DOWN IN THE CONTRACT AS THOSE ARE DEVELOPED BY THE JCB TEAM.

THE LOCATION IN PRECINCT ONE OF OF HIGHWAY 16 YOU CAN SEE THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE ACQUIRED THERE WITH MULTIPLE PHASES POSSIBLE THERE. AND THE INITIAL PHASE IS SHOWN THERE FOR YOU IN YELLOW.

BUT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.

AND THEIR HEADQUARTERS ARE PARDON ME, THEIR OPERATION IN SAVANNAH IS QUITE A SHOWCASE.

IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE FOR THOSE TEAM MEMBERS THAT WERE ABLE TO GO SEE THAT.

JCB TAKES A GREAT DEAL OF PRIDE IN THEIR FACILITIES, AND THEY USE IT AS A PLATFORM FOR EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS DEALING WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS AND SHOWING THEM WHAT JCB IS ALL ABOUT.

WE'RE PROPOSING THE FOLLOWING INCENTIVE OFFER.

AND AGAIN, THESE NUMBERS WILL BE VARIABLE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THEM ARE BASED ON THE ACTUAL INVESTMENT AMOUNT.

SO AS WE GET TO FINAL NUMBERS, IF THEY'RE NOT MATERIAL CHANGES, THEN WE'LL BRING YOU BACK THE CONTRACT FOR APPROVAL IN THE FUTURE.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING MATERIAL ABOUT IT, THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

CURRENTLY, WE'RE PROPOSING A TEN YEAR, 100% TAX ABATEMENT ON THE REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY WHICH HAS AN ESTIMATED VALUE OF $6,493,779 OVER TEN YEARS, A SKILLED DEVELOPMENT GRANT OF UP TO $250,000 BASED ON $1,000 PER JOB.

THAT'S FOR 250 JOBS FOR ANY JOB THAT PAYS AT LEAST $28.01 AN HOUR, OR 58,240 A YEAR.

AND THAT EXCLUDES THE BENEFITS, BONUSES AND COMMISSIONS.

AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT.

THIS IS FOR OFF SITE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE DONE THIS TYPE OF GRANT BEFORE, UP TO $5 MILLION.

THAT HELPS TO DEAL WITH THE THE COSTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO PREPARE THE ROADS FLOOD OR WATER? WATER ABATEMENT FEATURES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AROUND THE PROPERTY, BUT THAT ARE PUBLIC ASSETS.

AND THAT'S UP TO $5 MILLION AS A REIMBURSEMENT TYPE OF GRANT.

THERE'S A CHAPTER 31 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT, THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY THAT'S IN AN AG EXEMPT STATUS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO PURCHASES SUCH A PROPERTY IS OBLIGED TO RETROACTIVELY PAY BACK THREE YEARS AS IF IT WERE NOT AG EXEMPT.

AND AS PART OF OUR NEGOTIATION TO WIN THIS PROJECT, WE ADDED THIS AS ANOTHER OFFER PORTION OF OUR OFFER.

WE'D PAY IT BACK OVER 2 TO 3 YEARS.

AGAIN, THIS ONE, WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL OBLIGATION IS ON THAT, ON THAT ROLLBACK AND HOW WE CAN STRUCTURE SUCH A DEAL.

THE ARE ALSO PROPOSING THAT WE ARE GOING TO NOMINATE THEM TO THE TEXAS FAME BOARD TO FOCUS ON THEIR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING TECHNICIANS.

THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE FAST PROGRAM AND OTHER WORKFORCE NEED PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS AND JOINT MEETINGS WITH ALAMO COLLEGES AND A RANGE OF OTHER PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE COMPLETELY PLUGGED INTO THAT WORKFORCE ECOSYSTEM OF

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WHICH WE ARE A PART OF.

OVERALL, THE ESTIMATED VALUE FOR THESE OVER THE TERM OF THE INCENTIVE IS $11,743,779.

AND OUR REQUEST TO YOU TODAY IS FOR PERMISSION TO NEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT.

AS I SAID, THOSE NUMBERS, I THINK YOU'LL UNDERSTAND.

THEY MAY BE SOME SLIGHTLY VARIABLE AT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT MATERIAL.

IF IT'S WITHIN A SLIGHT AMOUNT, AND WE WOULD NOT PRESENT IT TO YOU UNLESS YOU ASK US TO, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO CONSENT.

BUT IF IT IS MATERIAL, WE'LL BRING YOU BACK A PRESENTATION ON ANY CHANGES MADE IN THAT WAY.

WELL, I SHOULD MENTION THE HCP PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.

FORGIVE ME FOR THAT. WE DO HAVE DAVID CARVER WHO'S BEEN JUST A REAL JOY TO WORK WITH.

HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR THE LOCAL PLANT.

THIS IS HIS FIRST FORAY.

AND I THINK YOUR FIRST VISIT TO THE US WHEN YOU FIRST CAME HERE, ALONG WITH BEN EMERY, WHO'S THEIR SENIOR ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGER, A VERY INVOLVED WITH THE SUPPLY CHAIN SIDE. AND SO THEY'RE HERE REPRESENTING JCB TODAY.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING.

YES, PLEASE. FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS AND THE PEOPLE OF BEXAR COUNTY.

YOU SAID THIS IS MY FIRST TIME IN THE US.

I FIRST CAME ACROSS IN NOVEMBER LAST YEAR.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.

WE HERE WE'VE BEEN IN TOWN FOR THE LAST SIX WEEKS OR SO.

MYSELF AND BEN AND ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE TEAM REALLY IMPORTANT TO US TO LISTEN AND TO LEARN THINGS.

AND AGAIN TODAY, THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE LEARNED AGAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE HAVE A GREAT DAY AT WORK, THEY CAN GENERALLY COPE WITH THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE HOME LIFE. YOU KNOW? SO FOR US, THIS THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A GREAT TIME AT WORK AT THE SAME TIME.

AND WE ARE LOOKING TO RECRUIT 1500 PEOPLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THOSE, YOU KNOW, GOOD, SOLID JOBS FOR PEOPLE.

SO IN THE SIX WEEKS I'VE BEEN HERE EVERYBODY'S LOOKED AFTER US REALLY? WELL, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A, YOU KNOW, A THEME FROM THE PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY THAT THIS IS A NEED, A NEED IN A COMMUNITY.

IT'S DEFINITELY A PROJECT THAT JCB'S PROUD TO BE PART OF.

AND AGAIN, JUST WANT TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.

AND REPEAT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE WE ARE LOOKING FOR GOOD SUPPLIERS.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR GOOD PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WILLING TO WORK IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO RECRUIT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE ARE EXCITED.

IT IS A REALLY A GREAT PROJECT.

JUST A BIT OF A SHOUT OUT.

BY THE WAY, I NOTICED IN YOUR NOTES THAT TODAY'S BEXAR COUNTY WOMEN'S DAY.

SO JUST A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE ALL THE WOMEN TODAY IN BEXAR COUNTY.

MY WIFE HAS ACTUALLY JOINED ME TODAY, SO IT'S HER FIRST DAY HERE.

SO AFTER THIS, WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND AND CELEBRATE THAT OURSELVES.

BUT YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HAPPY TO ASK THEM.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE REALLY PROUD TO BE HERE AS JCB.

IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY AGAIN AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

WELCOME TO TEXAS.

THANK YOU. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

AND THEN I HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES. YES.

I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT JCB'S PARTICULAR ON DAVID AS YOU'RE AT THE HELM HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. SO I'M VERY MUCH INVOLVED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND CONSTITUENTS OF PRECINCT ONE.

AND OFTEN WE MIGHT GET COMPLAINTS FROM DIFFERENT COMPANIES.

SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM ABOUT POSSIBLE ISSUES, AND THEY'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO ENGAGE WITH US IN OUR OFFICE AND BE PRESENT, AND THAT PEOPLE CAN SAY THAT BEFORE THEY'RE HERE.

BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY VISITED HAVEN FOR HOPE, WHICH SAYS A LOT ABOUT THEIR COMMITMENT TO BEING MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY AND HELPING TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS.

AND SO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY VISITED HAVEN FOR HOPE, AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT HAVING A JOB FAIR AT OUR INITIAL INITIAL PRESS CONFERENCE IN THE FALL, I MADE THIS PUBLIC COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A JOB FAIR.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A JOB FAIR IN PRECINCT ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENTS KNOW ABOUT THE BENEFITS AND HOW TO GET INVOLVED ALSO FOR SUPPLIERS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND FOR ALREADY GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE A DIVERSE WORKFORCE.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY HIRED SOME OF THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP AND HAVE INCLUDED A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF WOMEN IN THAT.

SO JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR VISIONARY LEADERSHIP AND LOOKING FORWARD TO TO THE GROUNDBREAKING AND TO THE JOB FAIR AND GETTING EVERYTHING PAST THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. YES.

THANK YOU, JUDGE DAVID AND YOUR TEAM.

CONGRATULATIONS. FIRST OF ALL, ON RUNNING A VERY SUCCESSFUL GLOBAL BUSINESS AND A THRIVING ONE AT THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TO BEXAR COUNTY IN SAN ANTONIO AND MAKING THE INVESTMENT.

I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO PAY DIVIDENDS NOT ONLY FOR YOUR BUSINESS, BUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

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WE WE EMBRACE PARTNERS WITH OUR CORPORATE PARTNERS.

AND SO I THINK WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF THIS NOT JUST, I THINK WHAT IS A THRIVING MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY.

BUT THIS NEW PARTNERSHIP AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE IN TOWN YESTERDAY, BUT I HOPE THEY TAKE YOU TO A SPURS GAME AT SOME POINT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE REAL PASSION.

OF SAN ANTONIO AND OUR FANS.

BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF I THINK THE KIND OF COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE COMING TO.

AND CERTAINLY YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A LOT OF GOOD GOOD PEOPLE, HARD WORKING PEOPLE THAT THAT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE AND LOOK FORWARD TO GROWING THIS PARTNERSHIP.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MOODY.

SORRY, COULD I JUST COMMENT ON THAT? I THINK AS I SAY, THIS IS THIS IS OUR SIXTH WEEK HERE IN IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE HAVE BEEN TO THE SPURS GAME.

WE'VE DONE QUITE A NUMBER OF THINGS ALREADY.

AND WE DO WANT TO TALK TO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT HAS AN INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT.

YOU KNOW WE ARE OPEN TO TALK TO YOU KNOW TALK TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE YOU KNOW REPEAT AGAIN.

WE'RE HERE TO LEARN AS WELL.

YOU KNOW THIS IS OUR YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST VENTURE IN IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO YEAH, WE'RE TRYING EVERYTHING.

WE'VE TRIED DIFFERENT FOOD.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO IMMERSE OURSELVES IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE'VE EVEN GOT FIESTA MEDAL, WHICH WHICH WILL BE IN TIME FOR FIESTA.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO FIT RIGHT IN.

JUST THE ACCENTS. I NEED TO WORK ON THE ACCENT A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RUDY.

THANKS, JUDGE.

YEAH. AND TO THAT, TO THAT POINT I GOT A CHANCE TO MEET DAVID LAST WEEK, AND I ACTUALLY HAD A PREVIOUS MEETING WITH JORDANNA AND STAFF, AND I SAID I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET ANYBODY FROM FROM JACOB YET.

AND LITERALLY THE NEXT DAY YOU CAME UP TO THE OFFICER.

WAS IT THE SAME DAY, SAME DAY, SAME DAY? CAME IN. SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ENGAGING.

YOU GUYS ARE HERE. BOOTS ON THE GROUND WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITH BEXAR COUNTY, WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

THIS IS A A HUGE WIN FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

IT'S A HUGE WIN FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND FOR OUR REGION.

THANK YOU FOR FOR MAKING THAT INVESTMENT, FOR TRUSTING US TO TO BE A PARTNER AS YOU CONTINUE TO GROW AND EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE WISH YOU THE VERY BEST.

YEAH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER CALVERT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I ALSO WANT TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUES IN WELCOMING YOU HERE TO SAN ANTONIO.

THE UNITED KINGDOM IS OUR SECOND LARGEST EXPORT MARKET HERE IN SAN ANTONIO WITH $159 MILLION IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT YOU LOCATING HERE.

I WOULD JUST, FOR THE SAKE OF THE COMMUNITY, WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT I KNOW THERE ARE MANY CITIES THAT WERE BEING LOOKED AT FOR THIS PARTICULAR OPERATION.

TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY SAN ANTONIO.

I THINK IN THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION THAT RICHARD GAVE RICHARD FOX MEYERS, OUR PRESIDENT AND CEO OF JCB, I THINK IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITMENT FROM THE WHOLE TEAM, REALLY THE SAT AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT READINESS OF PEOPLE AND THE AND THE COMMITMENT OF PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO WORK WITH US AS A, AS A BUSINESS.

I THINK THAT WAS REALLY WHAT WON THE BUSINESS OVER.

I WASN'T I WASN'T PERSONALLY PART OF THAT COMMITTEE IN THE EARLY DAYS THAT WENT OUT TO LOOK AT THE BUSINESS.

BUT I KNOW THE FEEDBACK WAS THAT THAT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PIECE, THE FACT THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED 1500 PEOPLE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THAT'S ALL LEVELS OF THE BUSINESS.

AND IF I JUST COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY RECRUITED FOUR PEOPLE FOR LOCAL PEOPLE IN, IN SAN ANTONIO THAT ARE WORKING WITH US IN IN THE PURCHASING TEAM.

AND I THINK, I THINK THAT REAL COMMITMENT FROM THE, FROM THE WHOLE TEAM THAT WE'VE MET, YOU KNOW, TO TO WORK WITH US IN A PARTNERSHIP AND IT REALLY HAS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP TO BUILD A BUSINESS LIKE THIS.

I THINK. I THINK THAT COMMITMENT FROM EVERYBODY REALLY, REALLY REALLY WON OVER.

AND I THINK RICHARD SAID THAT IN, IN THE LAST PRESENTATION HE GAVE.

WELL, LET ME NOT BE THE SLACKER.

LET ME OFFER YOU A WE HAVE A JOB FAIR COMING UP ON APRIL 19TH, AND WE WILL GIVE YOU A FREE TABLE AT OUR COLISEUM.

FOR JCB, WE WILL BE HONORED TO HAVE YOU AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY EVEN GETTING A DIRECT FLIGHT FROM THE UK HERE. I THINK THAT THE EFFORT TO INCREASE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MUCH APPRECIATED UNITED UNITED KINGDOM IS A STRONG ONE.

AND YOU MAY HAVE BEEN HERE WHEN SHERRY FROM THE CITY, WHO ALSO IS FROM THE UK GOT THE INTERNATIONAL PERSON OF THE YEAR AWARD THIS YEAR.

SO YOU'VE GOT SOME STRONG TIES AND I WILL SAY OUR FOOTBALL OUR SOCCER HERE IS REALLY TOPS.

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AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANYONE WHO IS RELOCATING FROM THE UK ENJOYING OUR SAFC CLUB.

AND YOU ALL PROBABLY COULD TEACH US A FEW THINGS TO FROM OVER THE POND.

FINALLY, I'LL JUST SAY MY SISTER WAS BORN ON AN AIR FORCE BASE IN ENGLAND.

AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO LOTS OF GREAT EXCHANGES WITH MANY FOLKS WHO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE OF BEING IN THE ARMED FORCES OR ARE LIVING IN THE UK.

HAVING GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOUR TEAM THAT WILL COME FROM ABROAD.

BUT EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT IS OUR EXCHANGE.

TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE LONG HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRIES OVERSEAS.

AND WE JUST THANK YOU FOR INVESTING HERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING THOSE GREAT PARTNERS WITH YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'VE ALSO DONE THE FOOTBALL ALREADY AS WELL.

SO WE WE WATCHED THE DRAW AND THINK ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN WE FIRST JOINED.

SO AS LONG AS YOU ASK ME TO APPLY, I'M A BIT TOO OLD FOR THAT NOW, SO.

RIGHT. WELL, LET ME CLOSE WITH THIS.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT, YOUR REFERENCE TO TIES.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. COUNTY TEAM.

DID I WEAR THE RIGHT TIE TODAY? IS THIS THE TEXAS FAME TIE? OKAY, THEY SAID PLEASE WEAR YOUR TIE.

AND I SAID, OKAY, Y'ALL NEED TO MAKE A TEXAS FAME MANUFACTURING SCARF SO THAT I CAN.

DAVID. YOU HEARD JORDANNA.

DEBORAH. SO ALL RIGHT, WELL, AGAIN, LET ME WELCOME YOU.

TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE PLEASE TELL RICHARD FOX MEYERS MY REGARDS WHEN HE WAS HERE LAST BEFORE Y'ALL MADE THE DECISION. I BELIEVE I WAS THE LAST PERSON HE TALKED TO BEFORE HE WENT BACK AND THEN WENT BACK TO UK TO MAKE THOSE FINAL DECISIONS.

AND I'M HONORED AND PROUD THAT YOU HAVE SELECTED BEXAR COUNTY.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT WORK.

AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE ISSUES, CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR COUNTY TEAM, FOR WHICH I SAY THANK YOU.

ALSO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT JUST THE COUNTY, BUT GREATER SAT CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

ALL THOSE ALL THE WORKFORCE, PEOPLE AND ANY.

I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE TEAM WHO HAS HELPED BRING JCB HERE.

SO IN REGARDS TO AMERICAN FOOTBALL, LET ME LET ME JUST GIVE YOU THIS.

IF YOU'LL PASS ON THIS REMARK TO MY DEAR FRIEND RICHARD FOX MEYERS, I TRIED TO I WANTED TO EXPLAIN AMERICAN FOOTBALL.

HE JUST PATIENTLY LISTENED TO ME, AND I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT WE NEEDED TO SCORE AND WE NEEDED TO HAVE A TOUCHDOWN, AND THAT THE JCB WOULD, IF THEY ACCEPTED BEXAR COUNTY, THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD ALL PARTICIPATE IN A CELEBRATION.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT GROUNDBREAKING AND ULTIMATELY TO Y'ALL'S START MANUFACTURING OF YOUR GREAT EQUIPMENT.

BUT GOING BACK TO THE STATEMENT I THOUGHT I NEEDED TO EXPLAIN AMERICAN FOOTBALL ABOUT SCORING THE RED ZONE AND HE'S.

AND HE PATIENTLY SAT THERE.

AND THEN WHEN I FINISHED, I, YOU KNOW, I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOUR YOUR FOOTBALL IS SOCCER.

AND HE GOES, LET ME JUST TELL YOU, I'VE SPENT SEVEN YEARS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

OVER IN GEORGIA, MY DAUGHTER GOES TO THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA AND I'M A GEORGIA BULLDOG FAN, WHICH I RESPONDED, OH, WITH ALL DUE DEFERENCE AND RESPECT, WHEN YOU MOVED TO TEXAS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS JOINING THE SEC, AND YOU MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER ABOUT HOOK EM HORNS.

SO WOULD YOU PASS THEM THAT WOULD YOU PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE? AND WITH THAT, I WISH YOU A GOOD DAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE NEED A WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

GOOD LUCK TO Y'ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE IN THE LUNCH HOUR.

BUT I WANT TO DO ONE THING BEFORE WE BREAK FOR OUR LUNCH.

ITEM FIVE.

[5. Request of Commissioners Court to identify items from the Consent Agenda for additional discussion and to approve remaining Consent Agenda items.]

REQUEST OF COMMISSIONERS COURT, IDENTIFY ITEMS FOR CONSENT, AGENDA FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS, AND TO APPROVE REMAINING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS ASK WHAT ITEMS ARE PULLED AND THEN APPROVE CONSENT.

AND THEN WE'LL BREAK SO THAT ANY STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAD CONSENT ITEMS THAT THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO, THEY'RE FREE TO MOVE ON.

SO COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES ANY MATTERS TO PULL, NOTHING TO PULL.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ITEM TEN. ITEM TEN AND ITEM 64.

COMMISSIONER CALVERT NONE.

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ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

SO STAFF COMMISSION YOU IF YOU'LL PAY ATTENTION TO AGENDA ITEM TEN IS AN ISSUE WITH FLSA.

ITEM BROUGHT BY COUNTY AUDITOR KADARA.

ITEM 64 IS A BUDGET TRANSFER OF ARPA FUNDS.

AND THAT'S UNDER TINA SMITH.

DEAN. SO WITH THAT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING ITEMS OF THE CONSENT MOVE FOR APPROVAL?

[CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

THE COURT CALLS A RECESS.

I SAID ABOUT 45 MINUTES.

SO ABOUT 115 WE WILL COME BACK, RESUME.

WE WILL TAKE UP.

SO FOR PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC WILL TAKE UP THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED FROM CONSENT.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE MINUTES AND ALSO CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

SO APOLOGIZE TO CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN SITTING THERE.

WE'LL GET TO YOU PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER THE AFTERNOON.

LUNCH BREAK, COURTS AND RECESS.

ALL RIGHT, LET ME SEE.

I KNOW IT'S 122, AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK SLOWLY SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE JUST.

WE HAVE ONE. COMMISSIONER.

I HAVEN'T HEARD. IS FRANKIE HERE? FRANKIE? NO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I PRESUME SHE WILL CATCH UP WITH US AT THE RIGHT TIME.

WE WERE ON ITEM AGENDA FIVE.

I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT.

AND THEN NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED.

ITEM AGENDA NUMBER TEN, NOTIFICATION OF PAYMENT TO THOSE EMPLOYEES OF ACCUMULATED HOURS IN EXCESS OF THE FLSA.

[10. Notification of payment to those employees who have accumulated hours in excess of the FLSA maximum level for an estimated amount of $1,149,092 and approval of the appropriate budget transfers in the amount of $354,672.]

MAXIMUM LEVEL FOR AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF 1,000,140 $900,092 AND APPROVAL OF THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET.

TRANSFERS IN THE AMOUNT OF 350 $354,672.

IS THIS WHO'S MAKING THE PRESENTATION? IS THIS THE AUDITOR? OR WHO.

WELL, WE'VE PULLED IT.

WHO'S GOING TO COME UP AND ADDRESS? I THINK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON. JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS. IT'S NOT MY ITEM, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER MURPHY, DO YOU WANT YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND IT.

MAYBE YOU COULD JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW.

I KNOW I THINK CHIEF GARZA GAVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION THIS MORNING.

SURE. ABOUT WHERE THINGS ARE HEADED.

I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING, BUT MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD START WITH JUST GIVING US AN OVERVIEW ON ON KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND THEN STAFF, I JUST GOT A FISCAL NOTE.

IS THIS FOR THE YEAR OR CAN SOMEBODY JUST GIVE ME AN OVERVIEW ON THAT AS WELL? THAT'S THE ESTIMATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY. SHERIFF.

GO AHEAD. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR FOR HAVING ME UP.

LOOK, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, I'M PROUD OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THEY DO GREAT WORK. JUST WITHIN THIS PAST WEEK THEY MANAGED TO PASS A JAIL INSPECTION WITH FLYING COLORS AND DID A GREAT JOB DOING SO.

IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT OUR INMATE POPULATION IS UP THERE.

IT'S LIKE I CAN TELL YOU, STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, IT'S A MORE VIOLENT JAIL POPULATION.

IT'S A MORE MENTALLY ILL JAIL POPULATION AND PHYSICALLY ILL JAIL POPULATION.

BUT THEY'RE MANAGING THEY'RE MANAGING IT.

ADDITIONALLY, ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THE HOUSE, JUST THIS PAST WEEK, THEY HAD THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HANDLING PRETTY BRUTAL MURDER WHERE A THREE YEAR OLD WAS, WAS MURDERED. AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE CAUSE OF DEATH ON HIS MOM, WHO WAS ALSO KILLED DURING THE INCIDENT.

JUST LAST NIGHT, THEY GOT INTO A PURSUIT AND APPREHENDED SEVERAL IDENTITY THEFT SUSPECTS.

AND THIS MORNING, AS I WAS COMING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT, THEY WERE HEADING OUTBOUND, PURSUING A CARLOAD FULL OF VIOLENT, ARMED CARJACKERS.

ULTIMATELY, THEY WERE CAUGHT IN ATASCOSA COUNTY WITH THE HELP OF THE ATASCOSA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE DPS.

BUT IT JUST GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT JUST BEING A SNAPSHOT OF JUST THIS PAST COUPLE OF DAYS, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

NOW. A OBVIOUSLY A BYPRODUCT TO THAT IS, IS OVERTIME INCURRED ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND ON THE DETENTION SIDE.

AND WHILE WE KNOW THAT IT'S AN EVENTUALITY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, IT'S JUST INHERENT TO WHAT WE DO.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO MANAGE AND KEEP AN EYE ON.

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AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AS WELL.

NOW, I'VE BROUGHT A COUPLE OF CHIEFS WITH ME.

ASSISTANT CHIEF RAUL GARZA AND ASSISTANT CHIEF JOEL JOHNSON HAVE GOT SOME PERSPECTIVE TO GIVE YOU ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE.

SPOILER ALERT.

JUST TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR THUNDER OUR OVERTIME IS TRENDING DOWN AND OUR PERSONNEL MANPOWER IS TRENDING UP.

AND I WILL LET THEM GIVE YOU MORE SPECIFICS ON BOTH OF THOSE TOPICS, IF I CAN.

I APPRECIATE IT, SHERIFF. AND LET ME JUST SAY UP FRONT, OBVIOUSLY, WE WE ALL APPRECIATE ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND YOUR DEPUTIES DO FOR OUR COUNTY AND KEEPING US SAFE.

YEAH, BUT BUT OBVIOUSLY, THIS ITEM JUST WANT TO DIVE INTO THE DETAILS AND SEE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON IT.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY, CHIEF.

THANK YOU. SHERIFF. WE SPOKE A COUPLE OF SESSIONS AGO WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE HIRING AND RECRUITING TRENDS WAS TICKING UPWARDS.

AS OF THIS MORNING, WE HAVE 173 CADETS IN THE SHERIFF'S TRAINING ACADEMY.

SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

RIGHT. SO YOU'RE MISSING THE PUNCH LINE HERE.

SO LAST TIME WE ASKED THIS QUESTION, I THINK IT WAS 210.

SO WE WENT FROM 210 VACANCIES DOWN TO YOU SAID 178.

SO SO THE VACANCIES RIGHT NOW IN DETENTION ARE DOWN TO 187 AS OF TODAY.

GREAT. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A 10%, 15% DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES AT THE JAIL.

THAT'S GREAT. RIGHT. SO WITH THE 173 CADETS WE HAVE AT THE ACADEMY RIGHT NOW, 112 OF THOSE ARE FOR THE DETENTION.

BUREAU. WE HAVE FOUR CADET CLASSES IN SESSION RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING GRADUATIONS AS EARLY AS THIS THURSDAY, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE.

WE'LL HAVE TWO MORE IN APRIL AND ONE IN MAY.

SO BY MID-MAY, WE'LL HAVE 112 MORE BADGES AT AT THE JAIL.

AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE 61 CADETS IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING ACADEMY.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE FIRST STRAIGHT TO THE STREETS CLASS.

THEY'RE SET TO GRADUATE APRIL 19TH.

AND ON SATURDAY, APRIL 20TH, WE'LL BE DOING THEY'LL BEGIN THEIR PTO PHASE WHERE THEY'RE RIDING ALONG FOR 14 WEEKS AND THEN GOING ON THEIR OWN.

THE SECOND CLASS THAT STARTED IN JANUARY THEY'RE SET TO GRADUATE.

SEPTEMBER 13TH, FRIDAY THE 13TH.

AND THEN THEY WILL BEGIN THEIR PTO PHASE THE FIRST CLASS TO GRADUATE APRIL 19TH.

YOU'LL SEE THEM RIDING OUT SATURDAY THE 20TH, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THEM ON THEIR OWN BEGINNING AS EARLY AS JULY 27TH.

THE NEXT GROUP, YOU'LL SEE THEM OUT ON THEIR OWN DECEMBER 21ST.

SO WITH THOSE TRENDS, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 100.

87 VACANCIES IN THE DETENTION CENTER AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WERE DOWN TO 18.

THERE'S ANOTHER CLASS THAT'S GOING TO START ONCE THIS FIRST CLASS IS STRAIGHT TO THE STREETS.

GRADUATES, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CLASS START OFF IN APRIL.

APRIL 1ST WILL BE THE DAY THAT WE RECEIVE 12 MORE POSITIONS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPUTY SPOTS.

THAT, COMBINED WITH THE 18 VACANCIES WE HAVE NOW, WILL BE OUR NEXT CLASS WILL BE THE 2024 BRAVO PATROL CLASS WILL HAVE 30 CADETS IN IT.

IN THE RECRUITING, JUST FOR DETENTION ALONE.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 114 IN THE PIPELINE.

WE STILL GOT 20 FROM THE LAREDO APPLICANT.

THE LAREDO HIRING EVENT WE WENT TO BACK ON MARCH 15TH.

WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL CAREER FAIR THIS PAST SATURDAY OVER AT CBC.

WE HAD 70 APPLICANTS IN THE PIPELINE FROM THERE, AND WE ALREADY HAVE 24 THAT WERE IN PROCESS BEFORE THAT.

SO WE PLAN ON BEGINNING ON APRIL 22ND, THE ECHO DETENTION CLASS.

AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S SLATED FOR 40 MORE CADETS.

OKAY. NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE THOSE ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES THAT ARE STARTING THEIR RIDE ALONG PERIOD.

AT WHAT POINT WILL WE GET THOSE PATROL DISTRICTS STOOD UP THE THE NEW PATROL DISTRICTS THAT CAME WITH THAT LAST YEAR.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL ON TRACK FOR SEPTEMBER.

SEPTEMBER? YES.

AND THEN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK YOU SHARED IT WITH STAFF THIS MORNING.

SO THIS LOOKS LIKE A PROJECTION, A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE PROJECTED OVERTIME THIS YEAR FOR THE JAIL.

YES, SIR. CORRECT.

COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE BASICALLY WENT WITH THE TREND.

SO FOR THE LAST FOUR MONTHS AND FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS, WE BASICALLY AVERAGED IT OUT TO WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE COULD IT BE THE CONSISTENT USE OF OVERTIME.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A DECREASE ABOUT 10,000 HOURS, NOT INCLUDING THE 112 OFFICERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HITTING THE FLOORS PROBABLY IN ABOUT APRIL OR TO MAY.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOVE INCREASE AS FAR AS THE REDUCTION IN MOTT.

YEAH. I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DIVE INTO THIS IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT TREND CONTINUES WITH VACANCIES AND WE GO FROM 180 DOWN TO 100, YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, THAT SHOULD RELIEVE A LOT OF THAT OVERTIME AT THE JAIL, I WOULD ASSUME.

YES, COMMISSIONER, I'M VERY EXCITED OF THE WAY THE WAY WE'RE GOING AS FAR AS THE RETENTION ASPECT.

I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GOING DEFINITELY THE RIGHT DIRECTION WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS.

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THAT IS THAT IS GOOD NEWS GOOD NEWS TO HEAR.

AND I THINK JUST TO POINT OUT TO YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COURT AND THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, AND LOOKING AT THIS FISCAL NOTE AND SOME OF THE PROJECTIONS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE, TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, 80% OR MORE OF THE OVERTIME IS IN THE JAIL, RIGHT? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE VERSUS THE JAIL SIDE, THE VAST MAJORITY IS IS IN THE JAIL.

SO IF WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS WITH THE VACANCIES AT THE JAIL AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT NUMBER DECLINE, THEN WE'RE ATTACKING THE BIGGEST PART OF OF THE THE BUDGET ISSUE HERE WHEN IT COMES TO DETENTION OVERTIME.

CORRECT? CORRECT, SIR.

I DID JUST HAVE WELL, I WANTED TO TO CLARIFY ONE THING, AND THIS IS WITH STAFF TINA, YOU KNOW, THE THE GRAPHS THAT YOU MADE, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE, IT LOOKED LIKE AN AVERAGE OF AROUND $300,000 PER MONTH.

BUT I AM LOOKING AT THE FISCAL NOTE HERE THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE PROJECTING 6 MILLION, WHICH THAT SEEMS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH IF YOU'RE AVERAGING, YOU KNOW, UNDER $300,000 A MONTH, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE MORE IN THE 3.5 TO $4 MILLION RANGE.

CAN CAN YOU MAYBE HELP ME WITH THAT, OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I'M NOT SURE THAT THE GRAPHS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NECESSARILY, IS IT DOES IT DO THEY INCLUDE A PROJECTION FOR 23 TO 24 BECAUSE THIS IS A PROJECTION IN THE FISCAL NOTE IS A PROJECTION FOR 2324.

AND SO I'M NOT I DON'T RECALL I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE GRAPHS IN A WHILE, BUT I DON'T RECALL IF THAT ACTUALLY JUST LOOKED AT ACTUALS.

NO. THESE ARE ACTUALS, CORRECT? YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S PROBABLY THE DIFFERENCE.

WELL, STILL, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE MONTH OVER 400,000.

SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WITHIN THAT THAT'S THAT'S MAKING THAT PROJECTION HIGHER.

BUT MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON THURSDAY WHEN WE MEET.

THAT WAS THE THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP COUNTY STAFF, THE BUDGET OFFICE HAS, HAS PROVIDED SOME REPORTING GRAPHS AND WAYS THAT WE COULD REPORT ON THIS GOING FORWARD.

THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER, I THINK, FOR FOR THOSE OF US UP HERE TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND I THINK MY STAFF INVITED YOU ALL OR REPRESENTATIVES TO JOIN US ON THURSDAY TO KIND OF REVIEW THAT AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND IMPROVE ON THE THE REPORTING SIDE OF IT BECAUSE AND SOME OF THIS IS DATED TOO.

RIGHT? SO WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM YOU OBVIOUSLY IS, IS CURRENT VACANCIES, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

BUT IF WE CAN START TO IMPROVE THAT IN THE REPORTING, THEN WE CAN START TO SEE IT ON, ON A PAGE.

AND I THINK THAT'LL IMPROVE EVERYBODY'S COMFORT LEVEL AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.

MOST DEFINITELY, SIR. WE'LL BE THERE.

OKAY. WELL APPRECIATE ALL THAT.

AND ONE OTHER THING.

I THINK THAT YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT INSPECTION THIS WEEK WAS UNANNOUNCED.

CORRECT? IT WAS UNANNOUNCED.

IT'S IT'S OUR ANNUAL INSPECTION.

AND IT WENT WELL.

THE INSPECTORS ACTUALLY, JUDGE SACCHI WAS ON THE ON SPEAKERPHONE WITH US AT THE TIME, AND ALTHOUGH IT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE REPORT, THE COMMISSIONERS DID VERBALLY MAKE SEVERAL, SEVERAL NOTES THAT THE CLEANLINESS OF THE FACILITY WAS LIKE THEY'D NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

DEPUTY MORALE WAS WAS A BIT HIGHER THAN THEY'VE SEEN IN YEARS PAST.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THEY MADE NOTE OF THE FACT THAT THE INMATES COMMENTED TO THEM UNDER QUESTIONING THAT WE'RE TREATED REALLY, REALLY WELL HERE.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING THE RIGHT THE WAY WE NEED IT TO BE GOING.

AT THE, AT THE, AT THE JAIL.

AND WHILE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS A WHOLE, IT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT AND FOR FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS.

WE'LL SEE SOME OF YOU ON ON THURSDAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I MOVE APPROVAL MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CALVERT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? HEARING? NONE. I'LL ASK FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU GUYS, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR JAIL INSPECTION REPORT.

THANK YOU SIR. JOB WELL DONE.

I BELIEVE THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL ITEM WAS 60 FOR APPROVAL OF BUDGETARY TRANSFER WITHIN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

[64. Approval of a budgetary transfer within the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA Fund in the amount of $12,418,614 from projects that have been completed and have been canceled. The funds will be reallocated to the ARPA Unallocated Funds.]

ARPA FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 12,000,418 HUNDRED THOUSAND $614 FROM PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND HAVE BEEN CANCELED. THE FUNDS WILL BE RELOCATED REALLOCATED TO THE ARPA AND UNALLOCATED FUNDS.

THANK YOU, JUDGE THOMAS GUEVARA, OFFICE OF THE COUNTY MANAGER.

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THIS ITEM JUST AS A REMINDER, IT'S CLAWING BACK $12.4 MILLION.

THE BULK OF THAT WAS FROM THE CLOSING OUT THE DIGITAL DIVIDE PROJECT.

NOW THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THAT, THOSE AGREEMENTS AND WE'VE AGREED TO THE DIGITAL NAVIGATORS.

SO WITH THAT AND WITH THE TWO ACTIONS Y'ALL TOOK TODAY, IF YOU RECALL, YOU CLAWED BACK 2.7 FROM THE SMART AGREEMENT FOR YEARS ONE AND TWO, AND THEN YOU APPROVED THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE NAVIGATION LINE.

THAT WILL LEAVE YOU WITH A NEW UNALLOCATED FUND FUND BALANCE OF $17,913,123.

$17,913,123.

QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THAT, THOMAS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S A FEW JUST POINTS I WANTED TO, TO MAKE HERE AND OBVIOUSLY GETTING THE THE UPDATE.

SOME OF THE STUFF WE'VE WE'VE COVERED BEFORE.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT JUST BEARS DISCUSSING A LITTLE BIT.

I GUESS. FIRST OF ALL, DO WE HAVE ANY.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF MELISSA SHANNON IS IS HERE OR NOT.

I KNOW I SAW HER AT LUNCH, BUT REGARDING THE THE FEDERAL PUSH TO POTENTIALLY EXTEND THE CONSTRAINTS, THE 24 AND 26 CONSTRAINTS ON THE SPENDING FOR ARPA.

SO AT THIS MOMENT, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WORD THAT THAT IS MOVING ALONG.

IT WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH WITH OUR PARTNERS NACO, ETC..

SEE MELISSA HERE. SO BUT AT THIS MOMENT, NO, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT 20 THE END OF 2024 OBLIGATION DATE IS GOING TO REMAIN AT THIS MOMENT.

OKAY. AND I'LL JUST SAY YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TO PUSH THAT WITH OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION AS WELL.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN EVERYBODY'S BEST INTEREST THAT IF THESE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT, THEY'RE BEING SPENT WISELY AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO THOUGHTFULLY DISTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS RATHER THAN BEING RUSHED TO, TO SPEND THEM.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS WE, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS WE GO FORWARD HERE, THE CLOCK IS TICKING, RIGHT? WE HAVE NINE MONTHS TO APPROPRIATE ALL OF THESE DOLLARS, AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PROJECTS ARE GOING TO COME BACK. SO HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE PENDING RIGHT NOW? AND THERE'S THERE'S OBVIOUSLY HOW MUCH MONEY IS CURRENTLY PENDING IN PROJECTS.

DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK? NOT A I DON'T HAVE THAT BALLPARK.

BUT JUST A REMINDER, YOU HAVE SOME OPEN WATER SEWER PROJECTS.

WE HAVE THE PREVENTATIVE HEALTH RFP THAT'S COMING BACK TO COURT, I BELIEVE THAT FIRST COURT MEETING IN APRIL.

SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

AS FAR AS PENDING PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN OBLIGATED AND ARE JUST PENDING FINAL APPROVAL OR THE FINAL CONTRACT IS REALLY NOT THAT MANY LEFT IN THAT REALM, THOUGH WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS PRIOR TO YOUR DELIBERATION ON NEXT YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, WE ARE WORKING WITH OFFICES, OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THAT ARE MANAGING THOSE CONTRACTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING SO THAT WE CAN DO A DEEPER DIVE TO ENSURE THAT THAT SPEND DOWN RATE IS GOING TO MEET THOSE MARKS.

IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CLAW BACK.

YEAH, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME SORT OF RED LINE.

IF SOMEBODY HASN'T SPENT IT OR HAS A CLEAR PLAN BY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, SEPTEMBER, THEN WE NEED THE MONEY BACK.

YES, SIR. SO OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING DEEP DIVES WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND THOSE AGENCIES TO ENSURE THAT THAT FUNDING WILL BE SPENT DOWN APPROPRIATELY. IF NOT, WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT'S GREAT. AND YOU MENTIONED WATER AND SEWER.

I'M OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE, I ALSO AT A HIGHER LEVEL WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER ON A COUPLE ITEMS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE ARPA CLIFF WE TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF ALL THIS MONEY IS FUNDED PROGRAMS. AND THEN WHEN THAT MONEY GOES AWAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SO IN TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT CLIFF, THINKING ABOUT USING FUNDS TO EXTEND CURRENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE WORKING THAT HAVE PROVEN AN ROI VERSUS INVESTING IN NEW PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING TO CREATE NEW LEGACY COSTS AND ONLY EXPAND THE PROBLEM OF THE ARPA CLIFF.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, SIR.

AND IN FACT, IF YOU RECALL, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN WE THREW OUT A REPROGRAMING PROCESS FOR THE COURT TO PRIORITIZE THOSE THOSE TYPE OF ENDEAVORS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE THOSE COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD, OBVIOUSLY BIG CONCERN AROUND LEGACY COSTS AND, YOU KNOW ADDITIONAL HIRING THAT CREATES A, A GO FORWARD IMPACT ON OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST MAY BE

[03:45:09]

UNSUSTAINABLE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE ALL THOSE COMMENTS.

FOR THE RECORD, I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD ON THIS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF, OF THE CLOCK AND, AND SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE AND ALSO SOME OF THE POTENTIAL STRATEGIES AS WE GO FORWARD AND BEING ABLE TO SPEND THAT MONEY DOWN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I'LL MOVE. APPROVAL.

SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOODY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

THAT, I BELIEVE, CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UNLESS INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS POINT OUT ANYTHING ELSE, LET US NOW GO TO INDIVIDUAL.

WE'LL PICK UP WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 72.

SPECIAL PRESENTATION BY BEXAR COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

OH. I'M SORRY. OH, I FORGOT SOMETHING, DIDN'T I? OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

ONCE WE GET IN THE AFTERNOON AND KIND OF GETS A LITTLE HELTER SKELTER.

ALL RIGHT I SKIPPED ITEM AGENDA NUMBER SIX, FILING FOR THE RECORD, THE FOLLOWING LEGAL ADMINISTRATIVE DOCUMENTS AND DIRECTING THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO TAKE

[6. Filing for record the following legal and administrative documents and directing the Criminal District Attorney's Office to take action, if necessary]

ACTION IF NECESSARY.

SUB ITEMS A, B, C.

NUMBER SEVEN, COMMISSIONER'S COURT MINUTES FOR TUESDAY, MARCH 12TH TWO, 2024.

[7. Commissioners Court minutes for Tuesday, March 12, 2024.]

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO CITIZENS TO BE HEARD AGAIN.

[8. Communications from citizens who signed the register to speak]

THE MORNING GOT TAKEN, AND SO I HOPE OUR CITIZENS BIRD HAVE STUCK IT OUT.

IF YOU ARE, I WILL CALL YOU IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER.

HEATHER. EILEEN.

I ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S TWO OTHER PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ORGANIZATION.

IF YOU WISH TO INDIVIDUALLY SPEAK, THAT'S FINE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT PAM VERSUS SOIL.

SOIL. AND THEN THERE'S A DNF.

LATA. OR IF YOU WANT TO YIELD YOUR TIME, YOU'RE FREE TO DO THAT.

SO, HEATHER, DO YOU WISH TO TAKE YOUR THREE MINUTES OR IS THERE ANY YIELDING OF YOUR TIME? NO, I THINK PAM MIGHT.

WELL, NO, WE'RE EACH GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

WE'RE EACH GOING TO TAKE THREE MINUTES OR UP TO THREE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON.

GO AHEAD. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE SAKAI AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS HEATHER EICHLIN.

I AM A THIRD GENERATION ELECTION WORKER.

MY GRANDMA, ESTELLA RAMIREZ, SERVED AS AN ELECTION JUDGE AT LANIER HIGH SCHOOL AND OTHER WEST SIDE PRECINCTS FOR DECADES, AS DID MY MOM.

I'M HERE WITH DENISE FLORA AND PAM VASSALLO, WHO ARE ALSO ELECTION JUDGES WHO I'VE WORKED WITH OVER THE LAST YEAR.

TODAY I'M NOT ONLY HERE AS A CERTIFIED ELECTION JUDGE, I'M THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF THE NONPARTISAN, NONPROFIT YOUTH DO VOTE.

IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, WE BECAME FISCALLY SPONSORED BY BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS OF SOUTH TEXAS.

YOUTH DO VOTE. SUCCESS IN INCREDIBLE GROWTH IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME IS THANKS IN PART, IN LARGE PART TO THE EARLY SUPPORT OF COMMISSIONER CALVERT, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ AND MORE RECENT SUPPORT OF JUDGE SAKAI AND THE RESPECTIVE STAFF MEMBERS.

HOWEVER, I'M HUSTLING ON A DAILY BASIS TO BUILD THIS ORGANIZATION SO I CAN EVENTUALLY EARN A SALARY AND HIRE TEAM MEMBERS.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, I STOOD HERE ON JANUARY 23RD TO RECEIVE THE BEXAR COUNTY PROCLAMATION FOR HELP AMERICA VOTE DAY, WHICH WAS ON JANUARY 30TH.

THAT DAY, YOUTH DO VOTE HOSTED THE YOUTH VOTER AND POLL WORKER FEST AND WELCOMED MORE THAN 400 HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE STUDENTS AT PALO ALTO COLLEGE.

AND WE THANK COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ FOR HIS ATTENDANCE AT THAT EVENT.

TWO DAYS AFTER THAT EVENT, YOU DO VOTE WAS NOTIFIED THAT WE WERE RECIPIENT OF A HELP AMERICA VOTE COLLEGE PROGRAM FEDERAL GRANT FROM THE US ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION. WE ARE ONE OF ONLY TWO ORGANIZATIONS IN TEXAS TO BE AWARDED.

THE OTHER IS EL PASO COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT.

WITH THIS GRANT, WE ARE NOW WORKING ON PROGRAMING WITH PALO ALTO COLLEGE FOR ANOTHER CIVIC HOLIDAY, NATIONAL POLL WORKER RECRUITMENT DAY ON AUGUST 1ST, AND I'M GOING TO SKIP FORWARD. I'VE TRYING TO KEEP IT A LITTLE MORE BRIEF FOR YOU GUYS.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR STUDENT ELECTION CLERKS.

SO IN 2009, TEXAS LEGISLATURE ENACTED A LAW THAT ALLOWS HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS 16 AND OLDER TO WORK AS STUDENT ELECTION CLERKS.

SO FOR THE MARCH 5TH PRIMARY, YOUTH DO VOTE WAS ABLE TO RECRUIT TEN HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND PLACE SEVEN OF THEM AT VOTE CENTERS THROUGHOUT BEXAR COUNTY.

AS I'M SURE YOU ARE ALL WELL AWARE, BEXAR COUNTY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF POLL WORKERS FOR THE PRIMARY, PARTICULARLY DUE TO THE LARGER TEAMS REQUIRED FOR A PRIMARY ELECTION.

YOUTH DO VOTE WAS PROVIDING CRUCIAL STAFF FOR BEXAR COUNTY VOTE CENTERS.

ELECTION STAFF MEMBERS WERE REACHING OUT TO ME ASKING ME HOW MANY STUDENTS I HAD.

ANOTHER ELECTION STAFF MEMBER WAS GIVING MY NUMBER TO ANY ELECTION JUDGE LOOKING FOR CLERKS AND WILLING TO HIRE STUDENTS.

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WHILE I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS OF BEXAR COUNTY ELECTIONS IN THIS WAY, THE NEED FOR A STUDENT ELECTION CLERK PROGRAM AND DEVOTED STAFF MEMBER IS EVIDENT.

AFTER THE PRIMARY, I SURVEYED STUDENTS AND ELECTION JUDGES THAT WE RECRUITED AND PAIRED UP.

EVERY SINGLE STUDENT WANTS TO WORK IN ANOTHER ELECTION, AND EVERY SINGLE JUDGE WANTS TO WORK WITH THE STUDENT THAT THEY HIRED.

I AM A RESEARCHER AND I ENJOY TRUE COLLABORATION.

SINCE THE PRIMARY ELECTION, I REACHED OUT TO EL PASO, DALLAS, AND HARRIS COUNTIES TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THEIR STUDENT ELECTION CLERK PROGRAMS, AND I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE RECEIVED RESPONSES FROM EL PASO AND HARRIS.

I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AND THE TIME IS GO AHEAD, WRAP UP AND COLLABORATION WITH THESE COUNTIES.

HARRIS COUNTY EVEN WON A US ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION CLEARINGHOUSE AWARD FOR BEST PRACTICES IN RECRUITING, RETAINING AND TRAINING POLL WORKERS IN 2020, I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH BEXAR COUNTY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND THE ELECTION COMMISSION TO DISCUSS CREATING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A ROBUST STUDENT ELECTION PROGRAM IN THIS COUNTY THAT WILL ULTIMATELY STRENGTHEN ELECTION OPERATIONS, IMPROVE THE VOTING EXPERIENCE FOR THE ELECTORATE, AND FOSTER THE NEXT GENERATION OF POLL WORKERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PAM VERSUS SHAW.

IS THAT HOW YOU SAY IT? VIRTUAL.

YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

I'M JUST GOING TO READ QUICKLY A QUOTE FROM ELIANA ARRIAGA, A HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR WHO WORKED, SAID, I DECIDED TO WORK AN ELECTION BECAUSE OF MY FASCINATION WITH AMERICAN POLITICS. I CASUALLY DECIDED TO TAKE A SPEECH AND DEBATE MY FRESHMAN YEAR, AND FROM THERE I WAS SURROUNDED WITH PEERS WHO TAUGHT ME ABOUT THE INTRICACIES OF CURRENT EVENTS.

THE COURSE SHIFTED MY DREAM CAREER TO ONE IN GOVERNMENT.

AFTER CREATING A VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE AT MY CAMPUS, I HEARD ABOUT THE YOUTH VOTER FEST WHERE I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT YOUTH DO VOTE.

THE REPRESENTATIVES INFORMED ME THAT ANYONE 16 OR OLDER COULD WORK AN ELECTION.

INTRIGUED, I REACHED OUT AND TOOK THE NEXT STEPS FROM THE BEXAR COUNTY WEBSITE.

THE PROCESS WASN'T CLEAR OR EASY TO FIND, BUT THROUGH YOUTH TO VOTE AND HANDS ON GUIDANCE.

CYCLING, THE PROCESS WENT SEAMLESSLY.

I FOUND IT TRULY INTERESTING TO LOOK BEHIND THE SCENES AT WHAT ACTUALLY GOES ON AT A POLE SITE, AND THE SYSTEM OF TABULATING VOTES.

IN A WORLD OF MISINFORMATION, I FEEL IT'S NECESSARY FOR MYSELF AND OTHERS TO UNVEIL THAT CURTAIN BY PARTICIPATING IN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT TO UPHOLD OUR DEMOCRACY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DENISE. LADA.

THAT IS CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, I AM DENISE AND I AM A RECENT UTSA GRAD ALSO SUPPORTING YOU TO VOTE.

I HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND THE POWER THAT IT CREATES IN PEOPLE.

AND THIS PAST ELECTION, LIKE HEATHER MENTIONED, I ACTUALLY BECAME AN ELECTION JUDGE MYSELF.

AND IT WAS SUCH A PRIVILEGE.

IT WAS SO EXCITING TO SEE PEOPLE WHO WERE 102 YEARS OLD VOTING TO EVEN 18 YEAR OLDS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT REALLY WAS IMPACTFUL TO ME.

AND I ALSO GOT TO HIRE A STUDENT ELECTION CLERK.

SO I FIRSTHAND HAVE SEEN HEATHER AND HAVE ASSISTED WITH HER MISSION AND KNOW THE IMPACT GOES VERY FAR, EVEN THOUGH ON ELECTION DAY, OUR VOTING LOCATION, WHICH WAS BURBANK HIGH SCHOOL, WAS VERY MUCH NOT ACCESSIBLE AT ALL.

IT WAS VERY HIDDEN, LACK OF A LOT OF THINGS.

HOWEVER, ME AND MY ELECTION CLERK SHE WAS SUCH A TROOPER.

SHE REALLY WAS SUPER HELPFUL.

AND I KNOW THAT SHE WILL CONTINUE TO GET BETTER.

SHE THRIVED TALKING TO STUDENTS SINCE IT WAS AT A HIGH SCHOOL.

SEEING OTHER PEOPLE HER AGE AND BEING ABLE TO TALK TO THEM, REALLY INTERESTED.

AND WE GOT A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOLERS TO GET REGISTERED TO VOTE.

SO EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF OUR RETIREES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEM.

SO YES, IMAGINE WHAT A WORLD WOULD BE LIKE IF WE ONLY HAD MORE STUDENTS, IF WE ONLY HAD MORE PEOPLE THAT LOOKED LIKE ME.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT FUTURE.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY BARRIERS THAT WE SEE EVERY DAY.

BUT IF WE WANT THESE STUDENTS TO BE IN OUR SHOES, IN OUR POSITIONS ONE DAY, THIS IS HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. THANK YOU.

LET ME HAVE ANNA AYALA.

AND I BELIEVE JULIA CASTELLANO IS ALSO HERE.

DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK SEPARATELY ON THIS? APPEARS ON. YOU'RE HERE FOR ONE ISSUE.

OH, WE'RE HERE FOR ONE ISSUE.

BUT CAN WE SPEAK SEPARATELY? SEPARATELY? YOU HAVE.

YES. YOU MAY. YOU HAVE EACH THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS ANNA ELENA AND I COME TODAY REPRESENTING AZTECA DESIGNS AND CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE A SMALL, MINORITY, WOMAN OWNED COMPANY WITH 18 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN CONSTRUCTION, SPECIALIZING IN RENOVATIONS AS A MINORITY, WOMAN OWNED BUSINESS.

OUR JOURNEY HAS BEEN FAR FROM EASY, BUT AZTECA HAS SHOWN ITSELF RESILIENT AND TO BE CAPABLE COMPANY, BEING ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE MULTIPLE PROJECTS SIMULTANEOUSLY.

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ON DECEMBER 15TH, 2023, AZTECA SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL FOR THE COURTHOUSE PROBATE SUITE RENOVATION FOR WHICH WE CAME OUT THE LOWEST BIDDER, BUT WE LATER FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS AWARDED TO A THIRD HIGHEST BIDDER FOR $102,000 MORE THAN RUSTICA DESIGNS HAD PROPOSED, ACCORDING TO BEXAR COUNTY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262.027, A CONTRACT MAY NOT BE AWARDED TO A BIDDER WHO IS NOT THE LOWEST DOLLAR BIDDER.

MEETING SPECIFICATIONS UNLESS BEFORE THE AWARD.

EACH LOWER BIDDER IS GIVING NOTICE OF THE PROPOSED AWARD, AND IS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND PRESENT EVIDENCE CONCERNING THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, SOMETHING THAT AZTECA WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO.

WE'RE NOT EVEN NOTIFIED THAT THIS PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE AWARDED.

AS A SMALL BUSINESS, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON A HARD WORK AND DEDICATION.

AZTECA DESIGNS AND CONSTRUCTION IS MORE THAN CAPABLE OF PERFORMING THE PROJECT IN QUESTION, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY.

WHY WERE WE NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE OUR CAPABILITY AND ASK THAT YOU PLEASE RECONSIDER? MY COLLEAGUE JULIA CASTELLANO WILL GO FURTHER INTO DETAIL WITH THE PROJECT SHE'S A SHE'S AFTER.

SHE IS THE CHIEF ESTIMATOR FOR AZTECA DESIGNS AND CONSTRUCTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JULIA CASTELLANO.

YES, SIR. GO AHEAD.

YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

SO MY NAME IS JULIA CASTELLANO.

I'M THE CHIEF ESTIMATOR FOR AZTECA DESIGNS.

SO I JUST WANT TO GO OVER A LETTER THAT WAS DELIVERED TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS OFFICES LAST FRIDAY, MARCH 22ND.

AND THIS IS FOR EVENT 1056 COURTHOUSE PRO EIGHT THREE OFFICE SUITE RENOVATION.

SO AS HONEST PREVIOUSLY STATED, THIS WAS HAD A CLOSING DATE OF DECEMBER 15TH IN WHICH AZTECA DESIGNED TO PROPOSE.

WE SUBMITTED OUR PROPOSAL I WE RECEIVED ON JANUARY 9TH BY MISTER JOSE VIA AN EMAIL REQUESTING SCHEDULE VALUES, WHICH I RETURNED TO HIM BY JANUARY 11TH AS REQUESTED.

I MYSELF FOLLOWED UP ON JANUARY 29TH WITH MR. AVILA TO ENSURE RECEIPT OF THE SCHEDULE VALUES, AND HAD RECEIVED NO RESPONSE AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING FURTHER WAS NEEDED.

AND HE STATED NOTHING FURTHER WAS NEEDED.

ON. SORRY.

ON. MARCH 12TH, CECILIA REACHED OUT TO MICHAEL MITCHELL, WHO DIRECTED US TO JOSE AVILA, REQUESTING FURTHER CLARIFICATION BECAUSE VIRTUAL BUILDERS EXCHANGE SAID THAT WE WERE NOT THE AWARDED CONTRACTOR, BUT I HAD PREVIOUSLY LOOKED AT THE DOCUMENTS AND SHOWING THAT WE WERE THE LOWEST BIDDER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS AWARDED ON FEBRUARY 20TH, BUT AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED OR ELSE I WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE ON FEBRUARY 20TH TRYING TO SEE WHY WE WEREN'T AWARDED, NOT STANDING HERE TODAY.

SO I BELIEVE THAT OUR DISQUALIFICATION OF OUR BID WAS UNJUST AND THAT WE WERE NOT AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND OURSELVES.

AS STATED IN THE PROTEST, DISPUTES AND APPEALS SECTION OF THE SUPPLIER PORTAL EVENT THAT WAS EMAILED TO US ON MARCH 19TH.

I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT ON MARCH 14TH, WE GOT A CALL FROM PATRICIA AND JOSE STATING THAT FACILITIES SUGGESTED TO DISQUALIFY US BECAUSE OF A POOR PAST PERFORMANCE ON A PROJECT WITH BEXAR COUNTY, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE LISTED IN HISTORICAL BUILDINGS AND PROJECTS.

THERE WAS NOWHERE IN THE SOLICITATION THAT IT SAID THAT WE HAD TO HAVE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND.

BUT AS TYPEKIT DESIGNS DOES HAVE HISTORICAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED, AND SO WE HAVE THAT UNDER OUR BELT.

FURTHERMORE, PATRICIA STATED THAT DAN CURRY SENT IN AN AWARD RECOMMENDATION FOR ALL PRO GENERAL CONTRACTOR, WHO WAS THE THIRD HIGHEST FOR THIS PROJECT. AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THE FRUSTRATION AS THE CHIEF ESTIMATOR IS I GO OUT OF MY WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT I PROVIDE THE BEST VALUE IN IN EVERYTHING WITH ALL MY SUBCONTRACTORS TO PROVIDE THE BEST VALUE TO BEXAR COUNTY.

SO AGAIN, BEING UNDERMINED BY ONE PERSON'S RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IS A SLAP IN MY FACE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE PERFORM WELL ON ALL OUR PROJECTS.

SO WITH THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A REVIEW OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING OUR DISQUALIFICATION OF OUR BID AND URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE MERITS OF OUR PROPOSAL. WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT UPON FURTHER EXAMINATION, YOU WILL FIND THAT OUR BID MEETS ALL NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS AND OFFERS THE BEST VALUE FOR THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER CITIZENS TO BE HEARD THAT WE DID NOT CALL YOUR NAME? JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVEN'T SKIPPED ANYBODY.

SO LET US NOW CONTINUE TO INDIVIDUAL ITEMS.

[72. Special presentation by Bexar County Economic & Community Development of the Texas Mexico Automotive Supercluster (TMASC) Study report.]

I BELIEVE IT'S AGENDA ITEMS. 72 SPECIAL PRESENTATION BY BEXAR COUNTY ECONOMIC COMMUNITY.

DEVELOPMENT OF THE TEXAS MEXICO AUTOMOTIVE SUPER CLUSTER STUDY REPORT.

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DAVID MARCUS, THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, LET ME START OFF BY EXPRESSING MY GRATITUDE TO YOU ALL FOR MAKING THIS INVESTMENT.

THE COUNTY FIRST DID A STUDY OF THIS REGION BACK IN 2008 AND NINE REALLY, WHEN TOYOTA HAD ARRIVED, WE WERE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE INDUSTRY, AND IT BECAME EVIDENT THAT THIS INDUSTRY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING, SPREADS OUT ACROSS A MULTI STATE REGION.

AND OUR INSTANCE IN OUR CASE THAT INCLUDES THE NORTHEASTERN STATES OF MEXICO.

WE WANTED TO GET A BASELINE IN THAT TIME FRAME.

WE REVISITED IT IN 2012 WHICH WAS OF COURSE SHORTLY ON THE HEELS OF THE RECESSION, THE GREAT RECESSION.

AND WE HADN'T DONE AN UPDATE SINCE THEN.

SO WE FELT IT WAS TIME GIVEN A LOT OF TRENDS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THIS SPACE, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STRATEGY OF WHAT WE'RE RECRUITING, WHERE WE'RE RECRUITING, HOW WE'RE PREPARING FOR THOSE WINDS IS STILL IN PLACE.

AND SO WE BROUGHT IN ACCENTURE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THEIR MANAGER FROM THEIR MACRO FORESIGHT DIVISION EVAN ROSSMAN, WHO WILL GET THE PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I TURN THE PODIUM OVER TO HIM, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS A VERY COLLABORATIVE REPORT.

WE INCLUDED PEOPLE IN OUR STEERING COMMITTEE WHO WERE INCLUDED SHEA HOPKINS AND MANY OF WHOM WERE HERE THIS MORNING.

FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

SARAH CARABIAS RUST, WHO'S HERE FROM GREATER SACHSE, OF COURSE, MY AMAZING TEAM WITH DEBORAH CARTER, GIORDANO MATTHEWS, MARCIA HOKE AND THEN MANY OTHER FOLKS THAT PARTICIPATED. MY COUNTERPART AT THE CITY, BRENDA HICKS SORENSEN.

MIKE RAMSEY DAN YOXALL, WHO'S HERE? WE BROUGHT IN DEAN HOFF, WHO WAS WITH DELOREAN.

AND WE ALSO HAVE GEORGE IRBY WITH UGO STRATEGY.

GEORGE GILBERT CANEZ AND ROBBIE GREENBLOOM PROVIDED MOST OF THE MEXICO INFORMATION THAT HELPS TO INFORM THIS REPORT.

SO, GEORGE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

AGAIN, I WON'T READ ALL THE NAMES THERE, BUT WE REALLY HAD A FANTASTIC, VERY DIVERSE TEAM OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THERE, MORE WHO WERE INTERVIEWED.

AND SO WE FEEL THIS IS A VERY WELL VETTED REPORT.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE AS WELL TO EVAN AND HIS TEAM NICK AND RAUL, WHO WERE VERY INSTRUMENTAL AT MAKING THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.

AND SO WE'LL DELIVER A SHORT VERSION OF THE REPORT TO YOU TODAY.

WE HAVE PROVIDED THE FULL COPY TO YOUR DEPARTMENTS, AND WE'LL MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE SOON.

DISCUSS NEXT STEPS AFTER THAT.

SO WITHOUT ANY MORE FURTHER ADO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EVAN.

YES. THANK YOU.

NO. IT WAS IT WAS AN EXCITING REPORT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO WORK ON THAT.

YEAH. AS AS MR. MARQUEZ MENTIONED, WHEN WE STARTED OUR RESEARCH, WE SET OUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, IS THERE A CASE TO BE MADE TO DEDICATE SOME RESOURCES TO A REVITALIZED T MARS GROWTH STRATEGY EFFORT, AS OUTLINED IN ZERO EIGHT AND THEN AGAIN IN 2012? AS PART OF OUR WORK, WE WE LOOKED AT THE INDUSTRY.

WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT STATE OF THE INDUSTRY, THE GROWTH RATE, SOME GROWTH THAT WE ARE EXPECTING AS WELL AS THE FUTURE STATE OF THE INDUSTRY.

HOW IS THE INDUSTRY EVOLVING AND WHAT DOES WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT THAT THE T MASK REGION WILL NEED TO TO MEET IN THE FUTURE? WE ALSO LOOKED VERY CLOSELY AT THE T MASK REGION ITSELF.

SO WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT PROFILE, WE LOOKED AT SOME RECENT MOMENTUM WITH THE INDUSTRY, AND THEN WE DID A BENCHMARKING EXERCISE OF THE T MASK REGION WITH SOME OTHER REGIONS THAT HAVE STRONG MANUFACTURING PRESENCES AS WELL.

THIS THIS FIRST SLIDE I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO.

SO YES, I WOULD SAY THAT OUR ANALYSIS FIGURED ON THOSE TWO THINGS, BUT WE ALSO IN THE END CHARTED A COURSE FORWARD.

RIGHT. SO WHAT IF THERE'S A CASE TO BE MADE FOR T MASK WHAT ARE THE KEY SELLING POINTS? AND AND WHAT IS THE BEST COURSE FORWARD FOR BEXAR COUNTY TO STRENGTHEN ITS, ITS POSITION? AS AS MR. MARQUEZ MENTIONED, YOU GUYS HAVE THE FULL REPORT.

THIS SLIDE REALLY SPEAKS TO THAT T MASK PROFILE, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE WHEN WE DID OUR RESEARCH, WHAT WE FOUND WAS THE REGION IS VERY LARGE, YOUNG AND FAST GROWING WITH STRUCTURAL YOU KNOW, EMPLOYMENT CHALLENGES.

EVERY INDUSTRY IS FACING TIGHT LABOR CONDITIONS.

HAVING A FAST GROWING WORKING POPULATION IS A KEY SELLING POINT.

THE THE MILITARY VETERAN POPULATION IS, IS IS LISTED HERE AS WELL.

ONE THING TEXAS BENEFITS FROM IS, IS VERY STRONG NET MIGRATION PATTERN.

SO BEING ABLE TO POINT TO A VERY CREDIBLE POPULATION GROWTH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO ATTRACT INDUSTRY ACROSS THE BOTTOM HERE, THERE'S SOME, SOME INDUSTRY MOMENTUM A LOT OF ASSEMBLY PLANTS A LOT OF LIGHT VEHICLE PRODUCTION AND AND A GROWING WORKFORCE THIS THIS SLIDE HERE PERHAPS DOES A BETTER JOB OF OUTLINING THE TRUE INDUSTRY PRESENCE SO YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF INDUSTRY ACTIVITY ALONG THAT NAFTA CORRIDOR GOING NORTH TO SOUTH.

A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THE SALTILLO MONTERREY AREA.

SO THIS IS A YEAH, SHOWS A LOT A LOT OF THAT GROWTH.

THIS SLIDE IS PERHAPS A BETTER WAY TO TO BETTER UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE RECENT MOMENTUM WITHIN THE INDUSTRY.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THE THE GROWTH CHART HERE FOR KEY OEM INVESTMENTS OVER THE PAST DECADE.

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A COUPLE OF THINGS I WILL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO ON THIS SLIDE ARE IS THE RECENT MOMENTUM.

SO THE, THE, THE CLIMBING GROWTH YOU KNOW, POST 2020 WHERE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEW INVESTMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS.

THE OTHER THING I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT SAN ANTONIO AND T MASK HAVE BEEN ADDING A LOT OF R&D AND HEADQUARTER FACILITIES, WHICH IS A REALLY STRONG REALLY STRONG SIGNAL THAT A LOT OF JOBS ARE GETTING ADDED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY MANUFACTURING JOBS AT THE AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MOMENTUM CHART HERE, THE I THINK ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT MOMENTUM IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NETWORK EFFECTS TO BE REALIZED WITH WITH, WITH AN INDUSTRY LIKE THIS ONE.

RIGHT. SO THE MORE OEMS YOU HAVE COMING TO TOWN, THE MORE EMPLOYEES YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.

THE MORE OF A SUPPLIER NETWORK, THE MORE LIKELY THE NEXT OEM IS GOING TO BE TO TO SIGN UP.

I MENTIONED THOSE WORKERS.

JACOB MENTIONED IT EARLIER.

THOSE WORKERS ARE CRITICAL TO EVERYTHING.

PERHAPS PROVING THOSE NETWORK EFFECTS A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAVE WE HAVE A CHART HERE SHOWING WHERE A LOT OF THOSE TIER ONE AND TIER TWO SUPPLIERS HAVE, HAVE, HAVE COME TO TOWN.

SO WE'VE GOT A MAP OF THE REGION WITH THE RELATIVE SIZE OF SOME OF THOSE, OF THOSE SUPPLIERS.

NO SURPRISE TO SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITY UP AND DOWN THAT, THAT CORRIDOR THAT I MENTIONED.

BUT ALSO A LOT VERY CLOSE TO THE THE TEXAS AND MEXICO BORDER, WHICH I THINK IS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I MENTIONED EMPLOYMENT.

EMPLOYMENT GROWTH HAS BEEN VERY STRONG OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE HERE, WE'VE GOT MOTOR VEHICLE MANUFACTURING EMPLOYMENT.

THIS IS IN THIS IS IN TEXAS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE, THE STATE IS, IS VERY WELL OUTGROWING THE BROADER US IN THIS INDUSTRY.

ON THE RIGHT IS THE TRANSPORTATION MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY SHOWN FOR THE MEXICAN STATES.

AND YOU CAN SEE MEXICO'S EMPLOYMENT HAS BEEN GROWING.

BUT THE THE MEXICAN THE MEXICAN STATES IN T MASK HAVE MANAGED TO OUTGROW THAT THAT LOFTY NUMBER AS WELL.

SO A LOT OF REALLY GOOD PROGRESS THERE.

I MENTIONED THAT PART OF OUR ANALYSIS WAS TO LOOK AT THE INDUSTRY AND SOME OF THE THE CHALLENGES THAT THE INDUSTRY IS FACING.

A LOT OF THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, SEISMIC TECTONIC SHIFTS IN TECHNOLOGY, THE THE, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGICAL PRESSURES THAT THE THAT THE CAR MAKERS ARE UNDER IS IS PRETTY ASTONISHING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE TO RELOCATE SOME OF THEIR PRODUCTION TO PLACES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY BUYING THE MOTOR VEHICLES.

THERE'S YOU KNOW, STRUCTURALLY TIGHT LABOR MARKETS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURES.

AND SO PART OF OUR ANALYSIS WAS TO LOOK AT THE MASQUE REGION AND SAY, HOW WELL EQUIPPED IS THIS REGION TO START TO SATISFY AND, AND TO BE A GOOD PARTNER TO, TO INDUSTRY THERE.

WE FOUND FIVE VERY KEY COMPETITIVE STRENGTHS.

ONE IS THE BI NATIONAL CLUSTER, FAVORABLE DEMOGRAPHICS A VERY IMPRESSIVE LOGISTICS NETWORK, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESHORING.

WE'VE GOT A SLIDE ON EACH ONE OF THESE, SO I CAN I CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON EACH.

THE BI NATIONAL CLUSTER IS REALLY ABOUT THE THE DIVERSITY OF THE REGION.

RIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE A MANUFACTURER LOOKING TO LOCATE IN, IN T MASK, YOU GET TO BENEFIT FROM LOWER COST LABOR IN MEXICO AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPRESSIVE UNIVERSITIES FROM MONTERREY, AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO.

AND SO THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S THAT DIVERSITY COMPONENT TO IT.

THERE'S ALSO DIVERSITY OF YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT YOU KNOW, STRONG WATER IN ONE REGION FOR EXAMPLE A REALLY KEY, KEY PIECE I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO ON THIS SLIDE IS THE CHANGING RULES WITH THE USMCA.

SO THERE ARE THERE ARE SORT OF MINIMUM WAGE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE USMCA THAT THAT PERHAPS CREATE AN INCENTIVE TO LOCATE MANUFACTURING NOT ONLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER, BUT CLOSE TO THE BORDER, RIGHT, SO THAT YOU CAN SATISFY SOME OF THOSE MINIMUM WAGE REQUIREMENTS WHILE KEEPING YOUR PRODUCTION GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSE TO TO ITSELF. SO I THINK A REALLY GOOD CASE THAT THAT T MASK IS THE IS THE BINATIONAL CLUSTER FAVORABLE DEMOGRAPHICS I MENTIONED SPOKE TO ALREADY AT SOME AT SOME LENGTH.

YOUNG GROWING POPULATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HELP COMPANIES SATISFY SOME OF THE, THE HIRING CHALLENGES THAT THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN FACING IN RECENT YEARS AND WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO FACE INTO THE FUTURE.

SO, YEAH, THAT THAT YOUNG GROWING POPULATION WITH WITH A CREDIBLE CASE THAT THAT POPULATION WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

AND THEN, YEAH, OBVIOUSLY VERY STRONG YOU KNOW, WORKER TRAINING PROGRAMS TO, TO ACCOMPANY THE FAVORABLE DEMOGRAPHICS, EXPANSIVE AND INTEGRATED LOGISTICS NETWORK. SO THIS I WOULD SAY THAT TEXAS HAS THE SORT OF THE, THEIR T MASK AND TEXAS HAVE THE, THE BEST LOGISTICS NETWORK WITHIN NORTH AMERICA.

WHEN WE LOOK WHEN WE DID A BENCHMARKING EXERCISE OF T MASK WITH SOME OF THE THE THE OTHER REGIONS WITH MANUFACTURING ACTIVITY, WE MEASURED SORT OF THE HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAY

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USAGE THROUGH FREIGHT MILES.

AND I THINK ONLY THE MIDWEST USES THEIR HIGHWAYS MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN, THAN THE T MASK REGION.

HOWEVER, WHEN YOU COMPARE THE MIDWEST TO TEXAS AND MEXICO IN TERMS OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE, SEAPORTS FREE TRADE ZONES, THE COMPARISON IS NOT CLOSE.

SO THIS IS A THIS IS A REALLY IMPRESSIVE REALLY IMPRESSIVE ITEM FOR THE T MASK REGION.

SO, YEAH, HAVING ACCESS TO THOSE INTERNATIONAL MARKETS, ACCESS TO THE US AND CANADA MARKETS IN TERMS OF SHIPPING REALLY IMPORTANT SUSTAINABILITY.

TEXAS IS THE NUMBER ONE PRODUCER OF CLEAN ENERGY IN THE COUNTRY.

AND SO THERE'S THERE'S A FEW SUSTAINABILITY PRESSURES THAT THE, THE AUTOMOTIVE AND MOTOR VEHICLE COMPANIES ARE UNDER.

ONE IS OBVIOUSLY TO ELECTRIFY THEIR, THEIR PRODUCT AND THEIR FLEET.

AND THERE'S BEEN SOME HEADWAY MADE THERE IN TERMS OF INVESTMENTS ANNOUNCED IN PARTICULARLY MONTERREY AND AND AUSTIN.

HOWEVER THE, THE THESE COMPANIES ARE ALSO GOING TO BE UNDER PRESSURE TO CLEAN UP THEIR OWN PRODUCTION PROCESS.

AND SO HAVING ACCESS TO A LOT OF SOLAR ENERGY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO COMPETE FOR, FOR SOME OF THESE INVESTORS GOING FORWARD AND RESHORING.

THERE'S A THERE'S A, THERE'S A GLOBAL INDUSTRY TREND TO MOVE PRODUCTION AWAY FROM PARTS OF ASIA AND CLOSER TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE BUYING THE ULTIMATE PRODUCTS. THIS IS A TREND THAT'S THAT'S GOING ON WITH A LOT OF MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES.

YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF OUR IN SOME OF OUR RESEARCH, WE FOUND THAT THE BIGGEST WINNERS HERE TEND TO BE ASIAN COUNTRIES.

SO VIETNAM, INDIA ARE BIG ONES.

THE SOLE EXCEPTION IS MEXICO.

AND THAT THEY THEY HAVE A LIKE A LOW COST, VERY PRODUCTIVE WORKFORCE.

BUT ACCESS TO THE US MARKET.

SO BIG WINNER IN THE IN THE RESHORING TRENDS.

YOU KNOW AS PART OF OUR, AS PART OF OUR ANALYSIS, WE ALSO SAID THAT WE WOULD YOU KNOW, CHART A GOOD PATH FORWARD.

I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE LEFT IN THE FINAL REPORT FOLLOW TWO MAIN TRENDS.

THE FIRST ONE IS TO IS TO REALLY WORK TO CREATE THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE GOING TO REVITALIZE THIS THIS EFFORT IN THE FUTURE.

THOSE THOSE CAN TAKE A FEW DIFFERENT FORMS. AND THEN THE I WOULD SAY THE OTHER SORT OF THEME THAT WE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATION IS, IS LOOKING TO THE INVESTOR COMMUNITY, SEEING WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN AND THEN TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE AND TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE TO, TO BETTER COMPETE FOR THOSE INVESTMENTS.

IN SOME CASES, THAT'S BEXAR COUNTY SHOULD BE MAKING INVESTMENTS TO SORT OF CATCH UP AND, AND, AND, AND DO THINGS THAT OTHER SORT OF REGIONS IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY ARE DOING.

AND IN SOME CASES THAT'S REALLY RUNNING UP THE SCORE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE, THE NATURAL ADVANTAGES THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE COUNTY AND THE REGION HAVE.

YEAH. SO I WOULD SAY ON THE, ON THE PARTNERSHIPS FRONT, I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TO REALLY PARTNER WITH SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES SO LOOKING TO YOU KNOW, AUSTIN, MONTERREY AND BUILDING AND FORMING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, MAKING SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT CITIES AT THE TABLE MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GOALS ARE ALIGNED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, WHICH TASKS ARE BEST HANDLED, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A COLLABORATION VERSUS WHICH TASKS ARE BETTER LEFT UP TO THE, THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES.

YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY ANOTHER ANOTHER BIG PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY IS BETWEEN INDUSTRY AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

IN SOME CITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT THE, THE LOCAL AUTO MANUFACTURERS ACTUALLY WRITING CURRICULUMS FOR THE, THE LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

SO I THINK A BETTER, A BETTER LINE OF COMMUNICATION IS ANOTHER GREAT PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY.

THERE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING SOME OF THE COMPETITIVENESS ISSUES, YOU KNOW, I GUESS ONE GOOD EXAMPLE WE FOUND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THESE BIG AUTOMOTIVES, THESE BIG BATTERY COMPANIES, THEY REALLY REQUIRE MASSIVE PLOTS OF LAND.

SO ONE THING WE FOUND GEORGIA DID WAS REALLY PROACTIVELY LIKE BRING TOGETHER A MASSIVE PLOT OF LAND, MAKE SURE IT WAS SHOVEL READY, CONNECT IT TO THE UTILITIES SO THAT IT WAS SORT OF PREPARED FOR A COMPETITIVE PROCESS.

I THINK THEY RECENTLY LOCKED, I BELIEVE IT WAS KIA IN THEIR BATTERY PLANT.

SO SEEING A LOT OF SUCCESS IN IN PROACTIVE EFFORTS THERE.

WE'VE WE'VE TAKEN AN EFFORT TO SORT OF CHOREOGRAPH WHAT SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

WE'VE GOT SOME QUICK WINS HERE.

WE THINK THESE ARE THINGS THAT BEXAR COUNTY CAN, CAN DO VERY QUICKLY.

YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE TRAINING PROGRAMS, DEEPENING COLLABORATION WITH THE AUTO INDUSTRY, CONVENING THAT, YOU KNOW, MULTI CITY GROUP. THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER CATEGORY OF RECOMMENDATIONS CALLED THE HIGH VALUE PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T WAIT ON.

BUT WE RECOGNIZE ARE A LOT THORNIER AND A LOT MORE DIFFICULT, ALBEIT STILL VERY, VERY HIGH PAYOFF.

AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IN THE END, AS YOU KNOW, IN AN EFFORT TO BUILD ON SOME OF THE MOMENTUM AS YOU STARTED TO TICK OFF SOME OF THE HIGH VALUE PROJECTS TO, TO DO SOME OF THE, THE LONGER TERM.

YEAH, KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING.

COMPETITIVENESS. CONSOLIDATORS.

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SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANY LEAVE IT TO QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? MR. CLAY-FLORES? NOT SO MANY QUESTIONS.

JUST TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TO PRESENT.

AND I KNOW DAVID AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS NOW, SO IT'S NICE TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION.

I WAS TALKING TO JORDANNA AND MARSHALL.

IT'D BE GREAT FOR US HERE AT BEXAR COUNTY TO HOST A CONFERENCE.

AS YOU SHOW THE MAP BETWEEN SAN LUIS POTOSI AND NORTH TEXAS, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE.

SO IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HOST IT.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO START WORKING ON THAT AND START DABBLING WITH THE FUNDS, DAVID SMITH, TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO, THAT'S GOING TO COST US.

BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AND WORK WITH LOCAL PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE WE GET SPONSORSHIPS, BUT IT MAKES SENSE.

LONG TIME OVERDUE.

SO HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS.

AND HAPPY TO BE OF HELP.

GREAT. MR. RODRIGUEZ.

YES. THANK YOU. JUDGE.

THANK YOU FOR THE FOR THE INFORMATION.

GREAT. GREAT PRESENTATION.

THE THING THAT CAME TO MIND WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD EARLIER JQB AND WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT MANUFACTURING WINS IN BEXAR COUNTY.

AND THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME DISTINCTION BETWEEN I GUESS THE MANUFACTURING JOBS, WHICH ARE GREAT, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

AND THEN I GUESS MORE THE CORPORATE HEADQUARTER ADMIN, YOU KNOW, FRONT OFFICE TYPE JOBS.

HOW ARE WE APPROACHING THAT? AND HOW I GUESS MY REAL QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE ATTRACT EVERYTHING, RIGHT? I WANT TO BE ALL IN AND NOT GET PIGEONHOLED ON ONE OR THE OTHER.

ABSOLUTELY. SO IS THERE SOME STRATEGY TO THAT? SO THERE IS A STRATEGY TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PART OF THE RESEARCH WE DID WAS A WAS A BENCHMARKING ANALYSIS.

YOU KNOW, HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THESE AUTOMOTIVE COMPANIES FEEL ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

WITHIN THAT EFFORT, WE WE DELINEATED BETWEEN THE MANUFACTURING AND THE HEADQUARTERS JOBS, BUT WE ALSO CREATED R&D AS ITS OWN SEPARATE SORT OF CATEGORY.

AND SO, YEAH, I AGREE THAT IT'S IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO PURSUE YOU KNOW, THE FULL VALUE CHAIN AND NOT JUST NOT JUST MANUFACTURING.

IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE SPECIFICS.

YEAH. LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT SUSTAINABILITY IS A IS A BIG THING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR, THEIR OFFICE SPACE AS THEY, AS THEY BECOME, YOU KNOW, CARBON NEUTRAL.

THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO, TO THE, TO THE MANUFACTURING SIDE AS WELL.

BUT I WOULD SAY LOOKING TO THAT BENCHMARKING EXERCISE, WE'VE OUTLINED THIS IN SOME OF THE DEEPER PAGES OF THE REPORT.

YOU KNOW, WHICH INVESTOR TYPES PURSUE, WHICH SORT OF CHARACTERISTICS THE MOST.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE IS A BIG ONE.

SO KEEPING CONTINUING TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS ALREADY.

FOR SURE. AS YOU AS, AS I SHOWED ON THAT, THAT CHART THAT.

YEAH, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS BUILDING OUT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, DAVID AND YOUR TEAM AS YOU LOOK FOR THESE AND BROUGHT MORE BROADLY THE GREATER SAT TEAM.

YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THE HEADQUARTER OPERATIONS ARE LOCATING IN OTHER CITIES.

RIGHT. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'VE GOT A STRATEGY THAT IS ALSO SAYING, LOOK, WE ARE OUR WORKFORCE IS READY FOR MANUFACTURING JOBS. IT'S A LARGE YOU KNOW, FACTOR IN WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING IN PREPARING THOSE PEOPLE.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE FOLKS WHO CAN FILL CORPORATE JOBS, AND WE WANT THOSE AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO FURTHER COMMENT ON THAT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SARAH CARABIAS WITH GREATER SAT, AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME ASSURANCES THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY RECRUITING AND SEEKING THOSE THOSE INVESTMENTS FROM HEADQUARTERS AND RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

AND YOU'LL BE DELIGHTED TO KNOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE IN OUR PIPELINE FROM A FROM A PROJECT ACTIVATION STANDPOINT.

AND SO WE ARE ON THE ROAD HOPEFULLY TO CLOSING ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS I'VE SPENT THE 18 YEARS OF MY CAREER IN THE DALLAS MARKET, WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE RECRUITING I DID WAS FOR HEADQUARTERS.

YOU KNOW, THE SAN ANTONIO REGION IS CHALLENGED, AND WE MUST CONTINUE TO INVEST IN OUR AIRPORT INFRASTRUCTURE.

IF WE WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE FOR GLOBAL COMPANY HEADQUARTERS, WE MUST ALSO CONTINUE TO INVEST HEAVILY IN OUR EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT NUMBERS AND IN OUR WORKFORCE.

OTHERWISE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO COMPETE FOR THOSE PROJECTS.

BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE A VERY STRONG STORY TO TELL, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE IN THE PIPELINE THAT HOPEFULLY WILL GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

WELL, THAT'S GLAD. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENTS ON THE AIRPORT INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE, SO I HOPE THAT IS ALSO PART OF TELLING THE STORY OF THE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY INVESTING IN ITSELF TO BE BETTER ATTRACTING TO THOSE.

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YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN THAT ASSUMPTION.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MOODY. WELL I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ'S COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW PURSUING THE ENTIRE VALUE CHAIN.

RIGHT. AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR FROM SARA THAT THAT WE ARE, IN FACT, DOING THAT.

AND I EXPECTED THAT, BUT BUT IT'S IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THAT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON, ON THAT FRONT AS WELL.

I DO JUST WANT TO A COUPLE COMMENTS AND MAYBE A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT YOUR YOUR KROGER'S THAT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

9.4% FOR SAN ANTONIO OVER THE LAST DECADE.

THAT'S THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

THAT'S THAT'S GREAT WORK.

BY, YOU KNOW, GREATER SAT X BY THE CITY BY DAVID AND YOUR TEAM.

YOU KNOW, I HOPE IN ANOTHER DECADE WE CAN STILL LOOK AT THAT AND STILL BE GROWING AT THAT THAT PACE, AS WE CONTINUE TO BRING MORE OF THESE FACILITIES AND MORE OF THESE JOBS HERE TO SAN ANTONIO.

IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE MAP REALLY QUICK, I DID HAVE A QUESTION HERE REGARDING THE REST OF THE BORDER.

SO THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED IN TERMS OF THE I-35 CORRIDOR, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE.

JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE IN THE THE VALLEY AS WELL OF AS OVER IN THE DEL RIO AREA.

I'M JUST A QUESTION BEGS HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THAT OTHER PART OF THE BORDER AS WELL? FIRST OF ALL, ARE THOSE JOBS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE BORDER OR ON THE TEXAS SIDE? AND SECOND OF ALL, SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT TRYING TO INCORPORATE THEM INTO THIS REGIONAL FRAMEWORK? RIGHT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THAT BENEFITS SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE WE'RE BETTER CONNECTED TO THOSE REGIONS AS OPPOSED TO DALLAS OR ANYONE ELSE IN TEXAS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK YOU'RE THINKING OF THE BUBBLE.

THAT'S THE MAP, CORRECT? YEAH.

COOL. YEAH.

SO TO THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS THERE.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ARE THOSE JOBS ON THE ON THE MEXICO OR THE TEXAS SIDE OF THE BORDER? THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN BOTH.

AND SO THIS IS NOT OEMS. RIGHT? THIS IS JUST THE THE TIER ONE, TIER TWO SUPPLIERS, WHICH IS A PRETTY LIKE, AS YOU KNOW, A PRETTY BROADLY DEFINED WORD.

RIGHT? SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS IN SOME BASIC ANALYSIS THAT, THAT WE DID UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS SORT OF THE CORE OF THE ANALYSIS THAT THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE TIER ONE AND TIER TWO SUPPLIERS THAT ARE UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR ARE TENDING TO SUPPLY MORE JUST IN TIME PRODUCTS, WHEREAS THE ONES THAT SORT OF SPREAD OUT AWAY FROM THAT HIGHWAY, UNSURPRISINGLY, ARE SORT OF PRODUCTS THAT CAN BE MORE EASILY INVENTORIED, LIKE SMALLER PARTS, CHEAPER PIECES THAT CAN SORT OF TRAVEL ONCE A MONTH AS OPPOSED TO LIKE EVERY SINGLE DAY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO THAT WAS ONE SORT OF THEME THAT WE, THAT WE NOTICED IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF THAT, IN TERMS OF WHETHER THOSE SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS GOING FORWARD.

I THINK IN A LARGE WAY THAT THEY THEY REALLY ALREADY ARE.

RIGHT. SO WE WHEN WE SET OUT TO DO OUR RESEARCH, THE BORDER WE DREW WAS REALLY AROUND THE FIVE STATES.

SO THERE ARE SOME AND THEN WE AND THEN FROM THERE WE SORT OF FURTHER DEFINED WHAT SOME OF THE, THE KEY METRO HUBS WERE THAT WERE SORT OF THE BIGGER CONTRIBUTORS AND THEN FOCUS IN ON, ON THOSE A LITTLE BIT WHERE IT WAS APPROPRIATE.

BUT WE, WE VERY MUCH INCLUDED THE LIKE THE ALL FIVE STATES AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS.

AND THEN IN HERE WHERE IT MADE SENSE TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THOSE MAJOR METRO HUBS.

WE MADE SURE TO DO THAT.

YEAH. AND ULTIMATELY YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE JOBS LOOK LIKE IN THE SUPPLY CHAINS AND EVERYTHING, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT POINT UP.

AND IF WE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE THEM AND LOOK FOR SYNERGIES WITH THOSE OTHER AREAS ALONG THE BORDER AS WELL.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE THE FIRST STOP AND WE HAVE THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, SYNERGIES FROM THOSE THOSE MANUFACTURERS.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

WE WE HAVE ALWAYS IN THE PAST WORKED MORE CLOSELY WITH THE LOWER, PARTICULARLY THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY.

THE BORDER IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH OF THEIR, THEIR WORKFORCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE TIED UP IN THE LOGISTICS OF THE BORDER ITSELF, THAT MANUFACTURING ISN'T AS QUITE AS DOMINANT THERE. BUT IT'S IT'S OBVIOUSLY A KEY LINCHPIN FOR THE WHOLE REGION TO WORK.

BUT WE WILL ABSOLUTELY WORK WITH THEM.

THE WHAT WAS ENVISIONED BY THE TEAM INITIALLY, AND WHAT THIS IS STARTING TO PROVE IS THAT WE CAN POSITIVELY AFFECT THE COSTS FOR SOMEONE LIKE TOYOTA, NAVISTAR OR JCB TO THE EXTENT WE CAN DENSIFY THE REGION'S SUPPLY CHAIN.

AND THAT INCLUDES TIER TWO AND TIER THREE ALONG THE BORDER, OR TIER ONES FOR THAT MATTER, BECAUSE IT JUST IT REDUCES THE ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE NON-VALUE-ADDED THINGS, WHICH IS THE COST OF THE LOGISTICS.

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SO BRINGING THEM IN.

BUT BUT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH OEMS TO SUPPLY.

SO WHAT YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE IS THE POTENTIAL REALLY ESCALATION OF THE GROWTH OF THIS INDUSTRY, WE PROJECTED WOULD HAPPEN IN ZERO EIGHT.

WE SAW IT THROUGH 12, AND NOW WE'RE SHOWING THAT IT REALLY IS STARTING TO HIT THAT HOCKEY STICK MOMENT FOR THIS INDUSTRY.

OKAY. NO I APPRECIATE THAT.

JUST WANTED TO TO MENTION IT.

AND I WOULD JUST ASK AGAIN TO TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO GREATER SAT X AND OTHERS IF THERE ARE YOU KNOW, THOSE.

OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO ENGAGE AND BE HELPFUL IN THIS PROCESS AS WE TRY TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL MANUFACTURERS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND ADDITIONAL CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS. I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE READY AND WILLING TO ENGAGE AND HELP, AND SOMETIMES IT'S TIME SENSITIVE.

I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO JENNA ABOUT THE AIRPORT MANY TIMES, BUT WHETHER IT'S IN THE NEAR TERM OR LONG TERM WE'RE HAPPY TO ENGAGE.

SO PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT YOU NEED AND WHAT WE CAN WORK ON, WHAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE THE MOST VALUE AND BENEFIT IN THESE DISCUSSIONS GOING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? DAVID, LET ME JUST.

ASK THIS QUESTION AND IT'S AND IT'S NOT AND PLEASE DON'T MISINTERPRET.

BUT WITH ALL THE INFORMATION WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED, TELL ME WHAT YOU BELIEVE ARE THE NEEDS THAT WE AS A COUNTY HAVE TO EITHER SUPPORT, CREATE BASIC.

I WANT TO KNOW WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO COME TO THE COURT AND SAY, JUDGE, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO SO THAT I CAN HAVE THE COURT PREPARE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF DISCUSSION, WHETHER WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT MORE, GO TO WORK SESSION, OR REALLY MAKE PUBLIC POLICY DECISIONS.

I THINK YOU'VE HEARD TODAY WE WE HAVE SOME STRONG PUBLIC POLICY ADVOCATES HERE.

SO WHAT DO YOU NEED AND HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST? WELL, HOW MUCH DOES IT MAKE IS REALLY THE OTHER QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT TOYOTA WHEN THEY FIRST ANNOUNCED IN 2003 AND THEN 2005, THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE INVESTING $800 MILLION.

AND AS OF TODAY, THEY'RE AT 4.6 BILLION JUST AT TOYOTA.

AND THAT ADDS ANOTHER MAYBE BILLION IN THE SUPPLIER PARK.

THEY ANNOUNCED INITIALLY THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE, I THINK IT WAS 1000 JOBS OR SO THEY'RE ALL TOLD ON THE TOYOTA SITE, THERE'S ALMOST 10,000 EMPLOYEES THERE AND GROWING.

AND SO WE SEE WHAT THIS INDUSTRY CAN DO.

I THINK THE BEAUTY JUDGE AND THIS I'M GOING TO TRY TO FRAME IT THIS WAY FOR YOU, I'M STILL HERE.

AND THE COUNTY, BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF YOUR TERMS REALLY HELPS BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

AND THIS THIS SORT OF EFFORT RELIES ON A CONSISTENT PATIENT APPROACH PUSHING FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THINK ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE, COMMISSIONER.

CLAY-FLORES. YOU NOW HAVE A COMPANY HEADQUARTERED IN ENGLAND.

YOU HAVE A COMPANY HEADQUARTERED IN JAPAN.

YOU HAVE A COMPANY HEADQUARTERED IN GERMANY.

IN NAVISTAR, THERE ARE KOREAN COMPANIES MOVING HERE TO SUPPLY TESLA.

THERE ARE GERMAN COMPANIES MOVING HERE TO SUPPLY TESLA, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WE DIDN'T INCENT.

THE OTHER BEAUTY OF THIS STRATEGY IS THAT ONCE IT DEVELOPS THAT SYNERGY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE THE FIELD OF DREAMS AND WE BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME AND BRING THEIR JOBS HERE AND THEIR INVESTMENTS HERE.

SO WHAT MAKES THAT HAPPEN IS THE PEOPLE.

SO THAT WOULD POINT TO A COUPLE OF THINGS, JUDGE.

ONE IS THE COLLABORATION IS CRITICAL.

IF YOU LOOKED AT THE MAP OF THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES, THEIR DENSIFICATION IS EVEN ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE THAN OURS.

WHY? BECAUSE THEY THEY COLLABORATE GREATLY ACROSS THOSE STATES.

THEY HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THEY CALL SUES THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES.

THOSE GOVERNORS GO COLLECTIVELY TO JAPAN, TO SEOUL, TO TO, YOU KNOW, TO TOKYO, TO SEOUL.

THEY GO COLLECTIVELY TO PUSH.

AND SO TO THE EXTENT WE CAN UNIFY THAT MESSAGE, I THINK THAT'S WHY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES IDEA ABOUT A CONFERENCE HERE SOON WILL START TO GET US TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S WE'RE NOT REALLY COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER IN THIS REGION.

IT'S THIS REGION AGAINST OTHER REGIONS.

SO THAT COLLABORATION IS ESSENTIAL IN THE COUNTY'S ROLE IN LEADING IT BECAUSE OF YOUR YOUR TENURE AND YOUR THE LENGTH OF TIME YOU'LL BE HERE TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN IS ESSENTIAL. THE OTHER PART OF IT, OF COURSE, WE'VE HEARD IT NUMEROUS TIMES TODAY, IS TO CONTINUE TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE WORKFORCE SIDE, NOT JUST WITH THE WORK WE DO.

TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, WE DO THE WORKFORCE WORK.

WE DO SPECIFICALLY TO KIND OF KEEP THE ATTENTION ON THE NEEDS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL WORKFORCE ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND THAT INCLUDES MOVING UP THE VALUE CHAIN TO THE ENGINEERING JOBS, THE DESIGN JOBS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE YOU WOULD NOT NORMALLY EXPECT TO SEE AN ENGINEERING SHOP SOMEWHERE THAT ISN'T NEAR THE INDUSTRY IT'S SUPPORTING.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS STRATEGY ENVISIONED, I ALWAYS SAID THAT MY MY GREAT, YOU KNOW, MOMENT OF MY RETIREMENT WOULD BE WHEN THERE WERE SOME NEW HIGH RISE DOWNTOWN WITH TOYOTA ON THE TOP OF IT OR SOMETHING.

THIS WAS BEFORE THEY MOVED TO PLANO.

SO UNFORTUNATELY WE WE MISSED THAT BY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILES.

BUT THERE WERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

WE'RE WORKING WITH OTHERS, AS SARAH MENTIONED.

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SO THOSE TWO THINGS ARE INITIALLY AND THEN THE THIRD ONE THAT WE HAVE LOST OUT ON PROJECTS WE'RE NOT EVEN CONSIDERED FOR BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN MAKE THE INITIAL CUT. IS THIS IDEA OF A MEGA SITE, A PRE-CERTIFIED SITE? NOW BEXAR COUNTY IS GETTING VERY POPULAR AND THERE'S HOUSES GROWING UP EVERYWHERE.

BUT IN THIS REGIONAL STRATEGY, WE WILL BENEFIT EVEN IF THAT MEGA SITE IS LOCATED IN A NEIGHBORING COUNTY.

SO IT REQUIRES US TO THINK AGAIN.

ANOTHER BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE IS THAT YOU HAVE, I THINK, A LARGER VIEW.

YOU UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF OF WHO YOU SERVE AND THAT THE THE DOLLARS DON'T STOP AT THE COUNTY LINE.

BUT SOMEWHERE WITHIN OUR LOCAL AREA HERE, WE SHOULD REALLY BE THINKING ABOUT IDENTIFYING AND PRE CERTIFYING MEGA SITES.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS BEFORE WITH A LOT OF TOP LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY JUST HAVEN'T GELLED YET.

PART OF IT WHEN WE HAD GREAT MOMENTUM AND THEN THE PANDEMIC HIT.

SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO REGENERATE THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS.

JUDGE, JUDGE. LET ME LET ME JUST STEAL WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO MY QUESTION.

I SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT THE COUNTY TO DO.

SO I TO DISTILL IT.

HE SAID, LOOK, THIS IS STUDY BROUGHT A DISCUSSION AMONG THE PEOPLE.

AND AS COMMISSIONER.

CLAY-FLORES IS SAYING, HEY, BRING CONFERENCE.

SO THEN I PUSH BACK.

LET'S DO A CONFERENCE.

THEN THE QUESTION LOOKS AT YOU AS A GROUP.

WHO'S GOING TO SPONSOR? HOW DO WE GET TO PAY FOR THIS SO THAT WE CAN THEN OKAY, WHAT'S THE CITY TO PAY? THE CITY IS HERE. YOU HEARD HER.

BUT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THOSE THAT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN SEEING THIS GROWTH TO CONTINUE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

I WANT TO TAKE THE THE CONVERSATION TODAY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE TALK.

AND THEN GO TO SPECIFIC COLLABORATION, WHICH IS STRATEGIC PLANNING, AND THEN GO TO A COORDINATION WHICH IS EXECUTION. SO IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, THEN I WANT TO HEAR A PLAN HOW WE'RE GOING TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

THEN I HEARD THE COLLABORATION PART, WHICH IS HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED IT.

SO AND THE OTHER THING IS WHAT IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE SO THAT WE DON'T MISS THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE HAD? LET'S NOT REPEAT THE MISTAKES.

I WOULD ASSUME STATUS QUO.

STAYING PUT, NOT CHANGING THINGS DOESN'T HELP AND DOESN'T PUSH US TOWARD THE COLLABORATION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE BEXAR COUNTY AND THE REGION TO ANOTHER LEVEL.

AND FINALLY AGAIN, I REALLY WOULD LIKE THIS GROUP YOU MENTIONED WORKFORCE.

QUITE FRANKLY, I WANT TO SEE A CONFERENCE OF THE WORKFORCE OF EVERYBODY WHO IS PLAYING IN THIS AREA TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A COLLECTIVE, ESPECIALLY FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE YOU'VE YOU'VE YOU'VE OPENED US AND GIVEN US THE SILVER LINING, THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE FROM HERE INTO MEXICO.

BUT IF WE JUST CONTINUE TO SIT HERE AND SAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE HOPE WILL HAPPEN, I SUSPECT IT JUST WILL HAPPEN BY CIRCUMSTANCE OR BY CHANCE OR BY INDIVIDUAL EFFORT.

AND SO I REALLY WANT TO SEE THE COLLECTIVE COME TOGETHER AND TO UTILIZE ALL THEIR SKILL SETS SO THAT WE CAN TRULY BECOME THE AS I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ SAYS, WHY CAN'T BE WE BE THE CHOICE OF CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.

BUT THAT'S A VERY, VERY STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A LOT OF THOUGHT ON THAT, WHICH PROBABLY GOES BEYOND THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. SO I'M REALLY TALKING TO THE CHOIR, SO TO SPEAK.

YOU ALL HAVE DONE GREAT WORK, I APPLAUD YOU.

I WOULD SAY THAT THIS THIS WILL NOT GET US TO THE NEXT LEVEL UNLESS WE KICK IT IN GEAR.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, YOU HAD SOME ADDITIONAL REMARKS.

JUST A COUPLE OF FOLLOW ON THOUGHTS.

OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT KINDS OF CONFERENCES, BUT I THINK A CONFERENCE IS A GREAT IDEA TO SHOWCASE BEXAR COUNTY AND SAN ANTONIO, RIGHT? TO TO ALL THOSE SUPPLIERS WITHIN OUR, OUR REGION TO, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM COME HERE, MEET WITH THOSE OTHER SUPPLIERS, SEE THE MANUFACTURING JOBS WE HAVE TODAY, SEE, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SHOWCASE WHAT BEXAR COUNTY CAN PROVIDE TO YOU.

SO THAT WAS THE ONE THING.

AND THE SECOND THING TO YOUR POINT ABOUT MEGA SITES.

SO WHAT ARE BEST PRACTICES OR WHAT HAVE OTHER YOU KNOW, COUNTIES, REGIONS DONE.

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IS IS THERE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AND I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKING THIS UP ON THE FLY, BUT LAND BANK MEGA SITES, IN ORDER TO HAVE HALF A DOZEN SITES FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, MAJOR MANUFACTURER THAT COMES TO TOWN AND NEEDS 160 ACRES.

SO THAT'S A LONG ANSWER, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES THAT WE COULD TAKE TO MEGA SITES.

AND I THINK THAT WE ARE EVALUATING AS A REGION A, I THINK A PUBLIC PRIVATE MODEL VERSUS A PURELY PUBLIC MODEL AROUND LAND BANKING ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OURS AND OTHER MARKETS ACTUALLY DO LAND BANK AND THEN USE THAT LAND AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH COMPANIES IN TEXAS, YOU DON'T SEE THAT HAPPEN AS FREQUENTLY.

AND IN LARGE MARKETS AND LARGE METROS, YOU DON'T SEE THAT HAPPEN AS FREQUENTLY FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

WE COULD GET INTO ALL THIS TO SAY, THERE IS AN ONGOING EFFORT, INCLUDING THE COUNTY STAFF, INCLUDING THE CITY STAFF, INCLUDING PRIVATE INVESTORS HERE LOCALLY, WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT AND EVALUATING SITE BY SITE OPPORTUNITIES, AND HOW CAN WE GAIN CONTROL OF THOSE SITES SO THAT THEY DON'T FRANKLY, GET GET USED FOR HOUSING, RIGHT? SO THAT IS OR WAREHOUSING, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE HAVE, I THINK, WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY TO MAINTAINING A SITE FOR A MEGA PROJECT.

AND WE'RE TALKING 500 TO 1000 ACRES PLUS.

RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU TALK MEGA SITES, IT'S NOT A IT'S A MUCH LARGER LAND BANK.

YEAH. NO, I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS JUST GETS AT, YOU KNOW, THE TACTICAL YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT ARE THE ASKS WHAT ARE THOSE NEXT STEPS AND WHAT COULD THE COUNTY DO TO TO HELP IN THAT REGARD.

SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

IF THERE ARE ASSETS THAT NEED TO COME BACK OR WE NEED TO BRING IT INTO A WORK SESSION AND DISCUSS WHAT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS COURT COULD, COULD DO IN THIS REGARD, THEN WE'RE OPEN TO THAT. FANTASTIC.

WE APPRECIATE THAT PARTNERSHIP.

THAT'S HOW WE'LL GET IT DONE.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION FROM THE TEAM.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO BE HERE WOULD WANT TO MAKE ANY STATEMENTS WITH THAT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

YOUR STUDY. AND I WOULD EXPECT, DAVID, THAT WE HOPEFULLY WILL PROCESS THIS INFORMATION IN THE WAY THAT I'VE SUGGESTED. OBVIOUSLY, YOU NEED TO GET INPUT FROM ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO BE VERY STRATEGIC AND BE VERY FOCUSED AND NOT GOING ALL KINDS OF SEPARATE WAYS. I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR THIS, THIS YOU'LL GET THAT THIS WAS VERY COLLABORATIVE AND THAT COLLABORATION WITH THIS TEAM BEHIND ME AND OTHERS WHO WERE HERE EARLIER. WE REALLY DO WORK AS A TEAM.

I KNOW YOU'VE ASKED THAT. WESTERN FREQUENTLY ON TOPICS JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

BUT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE REALLY DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS AND WE EITHER RISE OR FALL TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. JORDAN SAYS SHE WANTS TO HAVE A CONFERENCE BY AUGUST.

SO, SO JORDANNA WE'RE ON A FAST PACE FOR THIS, SO.

HELLO JUDGE. I CONVINCED HER TO DO IT AFTER THE FISCAL YEAR.

YES. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL TO SEE THE COST OF THE CONFERENCE WHERE WE SHOULD HOST IT WHEN IT MAKES SENSE FOR YOUR CALENDARS.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE KIND OF OWNING THIS AND SHOWING ALL OF THE REST OF THE REGION WHAT IT IS THAT WE HAVE HERE.

SO WE CAN ALL GO AND AND TO DAVID'S POINT, TELL PEOPLE TO COME TO T MASK REGION AND CREATE THOSE JOBS AND HEADQUARTERS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

JUDGE. CAN I ASK JORDAN A QUICK QUESTIONS? YES. ARE YOU ENVISIONING I WANT TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR.

ARE YOU ENVISIONING A CONFERENCE FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR A CONFERENCE OF THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES IN OUR IN OUR REGION? I THINK THAT'S I THINK IT'S I DEFER TO THE TEAM TO FIGURE IT OUT.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE FIRST GET OUR PEERS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS, FOLKS FROM THE STATE, BOTH IN MEXICO AND IN THE US, BECAUSE WE TO JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE NEED TO SET FORTH POLICIES OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND THEN AND INVITE THE PRIVATE SECTOR ONCE WE HAVE KIND OF A STEERING COMMITTEE OF THE REGION TO SAY, COME JOIN US.

SO I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER, WHICH WOULD BE THE PUBLIC SECTOR.

BUT AGAIN, AS WE BEGIN TO LOOK THROUGH THIS AND I CAN COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION OF OTHER STAFF DISAGREES WITH ME.

IT LOOKS LET'S LOOK TO OUR PARTNERS TO HELP SUPPORT THE FUNDING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JUDGE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 73 PRESENTATION DISCUSSION, APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING A REPORT ON THE PROGRESS AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE TO INCLUDE THE

[73. Presentation, discussion and appropriate action regarding a report on the progress and effectiveness of the Public Defender's Office; to include the appropriate budgetary transfer.]

APPROPRIATE BUDGETARY TRANSFER.

THE SLAMMERS. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M JACQUELINE LAMPSON, INTERIM PUBLIC DEFENDER.

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I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY NOT JUST AS AN ADVOCATE FOR JUSTICE, BUT AS A VOICE FOR THE VOICELESS, A CHAMPION FOR THE FORGOTTEN, AND A BELIEVER IN THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE THAT EVERY PERSON, REGARDLESS OF THEIR STATION IN LIFE, DESERVES FAIR AND EQUAL REPRESENTATION UNDER THE LAW.

OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS THE FRONT LINE DEFENDER OF JUSTICE FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US.

WE ARE THE SHIELD THAT PROTECTS THE INNOCENT, THE MARGINALIZED, AND THE IMPOVERISHED FROM THE INJUSTICES THAT PERVADE OUR LEGAL SYSTEM.

YET, DESPITE OUR TIRELESS DEDICATION AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE, WE ARE OFTEN OVERLOOKED AND UNDERFUNDED.

IMAGINE FOR A MOMENT BEING ACCUSED OF A CRIME YOU DID NOT COMMIT.

WITH NO MEANS TO AFFORD LEGAL REPRESENTATION, WHO WOULD STAND UP FOR YOU? WHO WOULD FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS AND ENSURE THAT YOU RECEIVE A FAIR TRIAL? IT'S THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THAT STEPS IN WITH LIMITED RESOURCES, AND TAKES ON THE MONUMENTAL TASK OF DEFENDING THOSE WHO CANNOT DEFEND THEMSELVES.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FULLY FUNDING THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN HUMAN LIVES.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ENSURING THAT EVERY PERSON, REGARDLESS OF THEIR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, HAS ACCESS TO THE HIGHEST QUALITY LEGAL SERVICES.

AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT UPHOLDING THE PRINCIPLES OF JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS THAT FORM THE BEDROCK OF OUR SOCIETY.

A FULLY FUNDED PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE MEANS RETENTION OF TALENT, MORE EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS, BETTER INVESTIGATIVE RESOURCES, AND ULTIMATELY MORE JUST OUTCOMES.

IT MEANS THAT A PERSON'S ABILITY TO RECEIVE QUALITY LEGAL REPRESENTATION IS NOT DETERMINED BY THE SIZE OF THEIR BANK ACCOUNT, BUT BY THE STRENGTH OF THEIR CASE AND THE MERITS OF THEIR DEFENSE.

SO I TURN TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO FULLY FUND OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

LET US NOT TURN A BLIND EYE TO THOSE WHO NEED US THE MOST.

LET US STAND TOGETHER IN SOLIDARITY AS DEFENDERS OF JUSTICE, AND ENSURE THAT OUR LEGAL SYSTEM REMAINS TRUE TO THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF FAIRNESS, EQUALITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

I FURTHER WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ENTRUSTING TO ME THE OFFICE THAT I LOVE.

FOR THE LAST YEAR OR SO, I HAVE NOT BEEN SELECTED TO CONTINUE LEADING THE OFFICE, SO IF YOU LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND IF YOU DON'T, MAYBE TAKE IT UP WITH THE NEXT GUY.

I KNOW WE CELEBRATED AT THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT, GIDEON.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR INDIGENT DEFENSE.

AND IT MAKES IT HARD TO TURN AROUND NOW AND SAY, INDIGENT DEFENSE.

PD AND MAC, Y'ALL ARE THE ONLY TWO DEPARTMENTS IN THIS ENTIRE COUNTY THAT WERE NOT FULLY FUNDED AND HAD TO COME BACK.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S DIG IN.

AND I CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THE MESSAGE THAT THAT SENDS TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS TREATING INDIGENT DEFENSE DIFFERENTLY AND WHAT YOUR VOTE WILL SAY TO THE COMMUNITY TODAY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I HAVE COVERED OUR BUDGETS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. WE'VE GAINED POSITIONS.

WE'VE SOUGHT GRANTS TO SUPPORT OUR DIVISION.

WITH MONEY THAT IS NOT COMING FROM THE COUNTY.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND TO DO A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS.

I'VE ESSENTIALLY BROKEN OUR OFFICE INTO A COUPLE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE RECORD OUR PERFORMANCE STATISTICS.

AND THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF KEEP APPLES TO APPLES IN OUR OFFICE IN COMPARISONS.

NEXT SLIDE. YOU'LL SEE OUR PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, AND I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH.

AND I KNOW IT'S LARGE ON THE SLIDE.

WE DO NOT JUST WALK IN AND PUT PEOPLE ON PROBATION.

OUR PERFORMANCE STATISTICS DO NOT INCLUDE DEFERRED OR STRAIGHT PROBATION AS CHARGED TO BECOME A POSITIVE STATISTIC.

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YOU MUST BE PART OF A SPECIALTY COURT, HAVE A REDUCED CHARGE PRETRIAL DIVERSION OR A DISMISSAL OR ACQUITTAL.

IT MAKES THESE PERFORMANCE STATISTICS VERY HARD TO ATTAIN AND TO SEE HOW HIGH THEY ARE, IN SPITE OF HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS, SHOWS YOU THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION THAT OUR PUBLIC DEFENDERS PUT INTO THEIR WORK AND HOW PROUD THEY ARE OF THEIR WORK.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PUBLIC DEFENDERS HERE TODAY THAT DO THIS JOB BECAUSE OF THEIR PASSION FOR INDIGENT DEFENSE AND WORK VERY, VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE AND PUT THESE NUMBERS UP THERE FOR YOU.

NEXT SLIDE.

I'VE INCLUDED OUR NUMBERS.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THE VERY LAST COLUMN FOR 22, 23 IS A NEGATIVE NUMBER.

AND THAT SHOWS OUR EFFORTS TO CLEAR THE BACKLOG THAT COVID CREATED.

SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS TELLING YOU IS THAT FOR THE LAST TWO FISCAL YEARS, WE HAVE CLOSED MORE CASES THAN WE HAVE OPENED, ASSISTING WITH ELIMINATING THE COVID BACKLOG.

I ALSO INCLUDED OUR AVERAGE NUMBER OF CLIENTS PER MISDEMEANOR.

ATTORNEY IS 164.

THAT'S NOT INDIVIDUAL CASES.

THE WAY THAT WE KEEP WE KEEP OUR CLIENTS TOGETHER.

SO IF SOMEBODY WAS APPOINTED TO ME AND THEY HAD THREE CASES, THEY WOULD BE ONE CLIENT, BUT THREE CASES.

SO WE'RE RIGHT THERE.

WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT THOSE CLIENTS WOULD, COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE AND OFTEN DO HAVE MORE THAN ONE CASE.

AND LIKE I SAID, I BROKE IT INTO OUR THREE MISDEMEANOR DIVISIONS.

MISDEMEANOR TRIAL CASES.

THOSE PD'S HANDLE A SPECIALTY COURT AND A CASELOAD.

WE HAVE MENTAL HEALTH, FAMILY VIOLENCE CASES WHICH, AS STATED INVOLVES SOMEBODY WITH BOTH A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE AND IT MUST BE A FAMILY VIOLENCE CASE, AND THAT THOSE ATTORNEYS AND ONE PARALEGAL CAME TO US FROM A GRANT FROM TIDC.

SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT ORIGINATED WITH MONEY OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE ADOPTED IT NOW, AND IT IS ONE OF OUR CATEGORIES WHERE WE DO REALLY WELL.

AS A COST SAVINGS.

BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS TALKS ABOUT OUR FELONY APPOINTMENTS.

AGAIN, WE HAVE FELONY MENTAL HEALTH WHERE YOU MUST HAVE A DIAGNOSED MENTAL HEALTH.

ISSUE TO BE PART OF THOSE ATTORNEYS.

AND THEN WE HAVE REGULAR FELONY TRIAL WITH REGULAR FELONY APPOINTMENTS.

OUR FELONY TRIAL APPOINTMENTS LED BY STEPHEN GILMORE.

ALSO HAVE STARTED COMMUNITY COURT.

IF THE COURT'S NOT AWARE, THAT IS A NEW SPECIALTY PROGRAM ASSISTING OUR UNHOUSED COMMUNITY.

THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO ASSIST THEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO WORK WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO FIND HOUSING.

AND THAT'S A BRAND NEW COMMUNITY COURT THAT WE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN AND HAS COST $0 TO THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE ALL ROLLED UP OUR SHIRT SLEEVES AND PARTNERED WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND PUT IN THE TIME TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.

AND AS IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AGAIN, ASSISTING WITH THE COVID BACKLOG, VERY CONSISTENT, 2122 AND THEN DEFICIT IN 2223. OUR AVERAGE NUMBER OF CLIENTS IS RIGHT ON PAR.

COULD POTENTIALLY GO SLIGHTLY HIGHER.

AND STAY WITHIN THOSE RECOMMENDED CASELOADS.

NEXT SLIDE. AS OUR COST PER CASE WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR DIVISION COSTS AND THE NUMBERS OF CASES THAT WE'RE DISPOSING, AND I THINK WE'RE VERY COMPETITIVE WITH THE MAC AND WITH INDIGENT DEFENSE AS A WHOLE.

I THINK WE CAN IMPROVE WITH ONCE ODYSSEY GOES LIVE, I THINK WE CAN IMPROVE OUR APPOINTMENT PROCESS.

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AND I THINK ALL OF THESE NUMBERS MIGHT IMPROVE, BUT DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY OUR FELONY NUMBERS.

I FEEL LIKE WE CAN REALLY LOCK DOWN AND GET THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT THERE.

TO FURTHER BENEFIT THE COUNTY.

NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF OUR STATS AND SOME OF THE REQUESTED METRICS.

WE HAVE OUR TIME TO DISPOSITION.

SOME OF THIS IS AFFECTED, OBVIOUSLY, BY THE COVID BACKLOG.

SOMETIMES. IT IS BENEFICIAL TO YOUR CASE AND TO THE CLIENT TO NOT PUSH FORWARD.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A MAJOR FACTOR HERE.

THE ABA GUIDELINES PRE-COVID HAD SAID 120 DAYS TO DISPOSE OF A FELONY, 30 DAYS FOR A MISDEMEANOR.

BEXAR COUNTY IS NOWHERE NEAR THAT AND NEVER HAS BEEN, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT TEXAS LAWS, THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, NOR ANY COVID BACKLOG.

THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR STATE COURTS GAVE A TIMELY RATING TO ANYTHING UNDER A YEAR, AND WE ARE THERE.

AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF JURY TRIALS, WE'RE ALWAYS READY TO GO TO TRIAL.

SO OFTEN MY ASSISTANT PD WILL TELL ME, OH, I GOT THERE.

I WAS READY TO PICK A JURY.

I HAD MY JURY SEATING CHART.

I WAS READY TO GO, AND THEY DISMISSED IT.

AND I THINK THE MAC HAS MADE SOME EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE DA'S OFFICE AND WITH THE DEFENSE BAR AS FAR AS THEIR VOUCHER SYSTEM AND DISMISSALS ON THE DAY OF TRIAL.

BUT WE EXPERIENCED THAT A LOT.

AND SO THE NUMBER OF JURORS.

MY POINT IS THE NUMBER OF JURY TRIALS IS NOT YOU'RE NOT SEEING ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT GOES INTO OUR APD'S CASELOADS BECAUSE OF THOSE PREPPED TRIALS THAT ARE THEN DISMISSED.

PRETRIAL DIVERSIONS.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS FOR THEM.

THEY'RE BROKEN DOWN AGAIN BY CATEGORY.

AND THEN AS FAR AS DISMISSALS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PUBLISHED LITERATURE ON DISMISSAL RATES.

AND AGAIN, I BROKE IT DOWN BY HOUR.

THREE DIVISIONS. SO WE'RE SEEING KIND OF APPLES TO APPLES.

AND SO SEEING THOSE DISMISSAL RATES IN THE 60 AND 70 PERCENTS SHOULD BE SHOWING ALL THAT.

WE'RE WORKING OUR CASES, WE KNOW OUR CASES AND THAT WE ARE HOLDING THE STATE TO THEIR BURDEN.

NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF THE OTHER MONEY SAVING FUNCTIONS THAT WE PERFORM ARE OUR PARTICIPATION IN THE SPECIALTY COURTS.

ALL OF THE SPECIALTY COURTS LISTED, WE PARTICIPATE AS DEFENSE COUNSEL.

SO WE WERE THERE. WE ARE THERE DURING STAFFING.

WE ARE THERE WHILE INTERACTING WITH THE CLIENTS.

AND WE'RE SAVING THE COUNTY MONEY BECAUSE YOU'RE UTILIZING EXISTING EMPLOYEES.

AND WE'RE GIVING OF OUR TIME TO SUPPORT THOSE SPECIALTY COURTS.

I ASK, ARE YOU EXCLUSIVE DEFENSE COUNSEL ON THOSE SPECIALTY COURTS? YES. YOU DON'T SHARE WITH EITHER THE MAC OR THE COURT ASSIGNED.

NOT ON THESE LISTED ONES, NO, WE DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN ESPERANZA COURT.

I BELIEVE THEY DO HAVE PRIVATE COUNSEL.

AND MAYBE A FEW OTHERS.

BUT ALL OF THESE COURT SPECIALTY COURTS DO THAT.

I'M SO SORRY. YOU SAID SOME SPECIALTY COURTS HAVE SPECIALTY ASSIGNED DEFENSE COUNSEL.

ESPERANZA COURT, I KNOW DOES.

IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY DON'T? I AM NOT AWARE.

IT'S HISTORICAL.

IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS UNDERSTOOD.

IF APPROACHED, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT ON.

JUDGE. NEXT SLIDE.

THESE ARE SOME OF OUR OTHER VALUE SAVING FUNCTIONS, A HUGE ONE WHERE I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE OUT OF COUNTY WARRANTS.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IF I HAD A WARRANT FROM ATASCOSA COUNTY AND I WAS WALKING DOWN THE STREET, WHICHEVER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY I INTERACTED WITH WHEN THEY REALIZED I HAD A WARRANT WOULD THEN TAKE ME TO BEXAR COUNTY JAIL.

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AT THAT POINT, ATASCOSA SHOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT THEY HAVE TEN DAYS TO COME PICK ME UP.

OR OUR JUDGES ARE ABLE TO GET A GIVE ME A PR BOND, A PERSONAL RECOGNIZANCE BOND.

WE FILE FOR ANYBODY APPROACHING TEN DAYS IN THAT SITUATION, A WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS, WHICH STARTS THE PROCESS FOR OUR JUDGES TO BE ABLE TO GIVE A PR BOND FOR THOSE CASES SO THAT OUR JAIL IS NOT PAYING TO HOUSE DEFENDANTS FROM OTHER COUNTIES.

SO JUST SINCE OCTOBER FROM THE TIME OF THIS, SO TO 315.

WE FILED 168 WRITS ON 128 UNIQUE CLIENTS.

THAT OTHERWISE COULD HAVE BEEN LEFT BY THOSE COUNTIES.

FOR US TO HOUSE AND PAY FOR.

WE ALSO AS YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATED IN APPEALS.

AND I THINK THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN APPEALS, WERE WE TO BE GIVEN ANOTHER POSITION? I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, BUT I WILL PLANT THE SEED THAT I THINK THAT THERE'S A BIG PLACE TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY WITH ONE EMPLOYEE DOING APPEALS FROM NEGOTIATED PLEAS, MTRS AND OTHER NON-JURY TRIALS WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY PAID OUT TO PRIVATE ATTORNEYS WHEN I THINK ONE EMPLOYEE COULD HANDLE THE BULK OF THAT AND SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY.

ADDITIONALLY WE, OUR EXISTING STAFF STAFFS THE SITE AND RELEASE PROGRAM.

WE ARE THE ONLY DEFENSE ATTORNEYS FOR SITE AND RELEASE.

WE DONATE 16 ATTORNEY HOURS PER WEEK AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT SITE AND RELEASE HAPPENS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT.

IT SAVES OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TIME.

IT SAVES OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM NOT GOING TO THE JAIL FOR LOW LEVEL OFFENSES.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO EXPAND IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO TO INCLUDE MAYBE MORE LOW LEVEL CRIMES.

WE ALSO PROVIDE NINE ATTORNEYS THAT HANDLE MAGISTRATION 24 OVER SEVEN.

I KNOW THAT IT NOT RUNNING 24 OVER SEVEN WITH THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WAS A CONCERN.

WITHIN ONE MONTH OF OFFICIALLY BECOMING INTERIM.

WE WERE BACK 24 OVER SEVEN, AND I HAD IT FULLY STAFFED, WHICH SEEMED TO BE A LARGELY THE ISSUE WITH STAFFING.

AND SO I RECRUITED AND GOT US TO FULL STAFFING AND RUNNING 24 OVER SEVEN.

LASTLY OUR CIVIL DIVISION.

REPRESENTS ALL WE HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS THAT REPRESENT ALL OF THE FOLKS AFTER A 72 HOUR HOLD.

SO WE PROVIDE ALL OF THOSE, WE PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND WARRANT CLINICS.

WE ARE 100% TRAUMA INFORMED CARE CERTIFIED.

AND WE'RE ALWAYS ASKED TO ASSIST OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITH SPECIALTY PROJECTS.

I MYSELF WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE WITH DEAN DYSON AND MICHAEL YOUNG TO MAKE REALLY GREAT CASE LAW AND EX PARTE DE PALMA.

WHERE PAROLE WAS ARGUING THAT UNTIL AN INDICTMENT OR AN INFORMATION WAS FILED, THEY WOULD NOT START THEIR CLOCK RUNNING FOR PRELIMINARY HEARINGS. WE ARGUED THAT THE ARREST WAS ENOUGH TO TRIGGER THAT CLOCK SAVING MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY JAIL DAYS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION IN PALMA, WHERE IT WAS ANOTHER COUNTY THAT DIDN'T HAVE THEIR IT WAS A DRUG CASE.

THAT COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE THEIR OWN DRUG LAB, SO IT WAS GOING TO DPS, WHICH WAS GOING TO TAKE SIX MONTHS OR MORE TO HAVE THOSE RESULTS BACK.

SO IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AND SAVED OUR JAIL.

AND, AND THE REST OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

A LOT OF TIME.

WE'VE DONE OTHER WRITS.

COMING WHEN WE'VE BEEN ASKED.

THERE WAS A PERSON THAT WAS DISABLED, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT A SITUATION WHERE MEDICATION WOULD FIX.

THAT PERSON.

THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER PLED.

AND WE WENT BACK THROUGH AND WERE ABLE TO ATTAIN JUSTICE FOR THAT PERSON.

BY FILING A WRIT AND UNDOING THAT CONVICTION.

AND WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CONVICTION INTEGRITY UNIT ON TONS OF LITTLE AND SPECIALTY PROJECTS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY AVAILABLE TO HELP.

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WE LOVE TO HELP.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THE VALUE WE ADD IS WORTH CONTINUING TO FUND US.

DONE. YES. OKAY.

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A PRINTED, SO WE WEREN'T SURE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WERE FINISHED.

CAN I ASK MR. CLARKE? SO OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS SOMETHING THAT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED.

WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THREE YEARS AGO I ADVOCATED FOR MORE FUNDING FOR TO HIRE MORE PUBLIC DEFENDERS IN MY FIRST BUDGET, AS WELL AS MORE FUNDING FOR THE SOCIAL WORKER. SO I.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS IN SOME OF THE STATS THAT YOU WERE SHARING WITH US.

HAVE YOU GUYS REDUCED THE NUMBER OF TRIAL RESETS SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T JUST SITTING AROUND IN JAIL? BECAUSE I'M SOMEONE WHO'S ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT OUR JAILS ARE OFTEN FILLED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WHO SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE READY AND NOT TO USE CONTINUANCES.

IT IS KIND OF AN UNSTATED POLICY THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT.

IF WE NEED TO TAKE A CONTINUANCE FOR A REASON THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT OUR CLIENT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

BUT, RIGHT, WE ARE TO BE READY.

AND IT IS NOT TO BE BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING ON SOMETHING ELSE OR WHATEVER.

WE NEED TO BE READY AND OUR APD'S DO A GREAT JOB OF THAT.

DO YOU HAVE THE STATS OR THE NUMBERS FOR THAT I DON'T HAVE? OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN GET TO MY OFFICE, PLEASE? IF I CAN HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE FROM ODYSSEY.

IT'S NOT I.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING I THINK YOU GUYS, THE ATTORNEYS ARE HERE.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY IDEA? DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S, LIKE, HELP TO ALLEVIATE THE OVERCROWDING IN JAILS AND GET PEOPLE TO TRIALS AND.

SURE. SO STEPHEN GILMORE, I'M ONE OF THE FELONY ASSISTANT PUBLIC DEFENDERS.

SO CAN YOU TALK TO MIKE A LITTLE BIT? SURE. THANK YOU. THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY TRACKED SUPER WELL BY IT.

SO BEING ABLE TO GENERATE A REPORT TO GIVE TO YOU IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED.

OKAY. BUT AS ODYSSEY BECOMES A MORE, YOU KNOW, ROBUST PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM TO HELP KIND OF DEVELOP IT MORE SO THAT IT'S MORE DEFENSE ATTORNEY FRIENDLY, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF GENERATE THAT.

SO WHO CAN HELP YOU GUYS MAKE SURE THAT'S TRACKED.

MARK IS THAT SOMETHING Y'ALL CAN HELP TO MAKE SURE WHEN ODYSSEY GETS GOING OR WHO DO WE TASK THAT.

TO WHOM DO WE TASK THAT? WELL, I THOUGHT OUR EXISTING SYSTEM TRACKS RESETS ALREADY.

I DON'T THINK EVERY THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT IT, I THINK IN THE DATA I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THIS, BUT WE PROVIDED SOME CASE RESET DATA FOR FELONY TRIALS AND FOR MISDEMEANORS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW, EVERY COORDINATOR DOESN'T DO IT THE SAME.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ENOUGH INDICIA OF RELIABILITY.

I THINK WHEN THEY'RE TRAINED WITH THE NEW ODYSSEY, I THINK WE'LL GET THAT INDICIA.

SO WHO DO WE TASK TO DO THAT? WHO'S OVER THE TRAINING? WHO'S GOING TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS? WELL, IF WE'RE JUST RELYING SOLELY ON ODYSSEY AND RELYING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL COURT COORDINATOR, THE WAY THEY INPUT THE DATA INTO WHAT'S NOW MOCHA, RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE INPUTTING THEIR DATA INTO MOCHA.

EACH COURT COORDINATOR IS TRAINED ESSENTIALLY BY, YOU KNOW, THEIR JUDGE ON HOW TO INPUT, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A COURT RESET? IS THIS A DEFENSE RESET? IS THIS A STATE RESET? GENERALLY SPEAKING, MOST OF THE RESETS, AT LEAST UP TO THE SECOND OR THIRD SETTING, ARE GENERALLY COURT RESETS BECAUSE DISCOVERY HASN'T BEEN COMPLETE.

THEY'RE NOT ASKING US FOR TRIAL SETTINGS FOR US TO ACTUALLY MAKE TRIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS AND COMPLETE A DISCOVERY ACKNOWLEDGMENT UNTIL WE GET TO ABOUT THAT THIRD SETTING.

JUST ANECDOTALLY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN OUR OFFICE WE ARE ABLE TO WORK OUT OUR CASES MUCH QUICKER THAN I'VE SEEN THE PRIVATE BAR WORK OUT THEIR CASES.

AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THERE IS SOME FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR THINGS TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER IN THE PRIVATE BAR, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ITEMIZING THEIR VOUCHERS, WHEREAS WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INCENTIVE.

OUR INCENTIVE IS TO RESOLVE THE CASE IN A MANNER THAT BENEFITS THE CLIENT AS QUICKLY AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S BY A PLEA OR BY FORCING A DISMISSAL OR BY GOING TO TRIAL, WHATEVER THAT IS, WE HAVE MUCH DIFFERENT INCENTIVES TO WORK AND RESOLVE THESE CASES THAN THE PRIVATE BAR DOES. SO, OKAY.

IS THAT KIND OF ANSWER? YEAH. KIND OF. SO IF YOU GUYS CAN WORK AS ODYSSEY MOVES FORWARD TO TO SEE HOW WE CAN TRACK THIS.

BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS IS OBVIOUSLY A DEPARTMENT THAT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED.

I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE FUNDING GO TO MAKE IT MORE ROBUST SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH WITH OUR CLIENTS.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. THANK YOU. JUDGE, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION'S FOR YOU, JACKIE, OR FOR BUDGET.

WHAT IS THE ACTUAL FISCAL NOTE ON THIS? I DIDN'T SEE ANY ANYTHING.

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THERE'S AN ATTACHED BUDGETARY TRANSFER.

IF YOU APPROVE IT, IT'S FOR A LITTLE OVER 2.5 MILLION.

OKAY. IS THAT IS THAT IN THE BACKUP? OR IS IT ON THE AGENDA? IT'S IT'S ON PAGE TWO OF MINE.

IT'S IN THE BACKUP THAT I'M LOOKING AT.

OKAY, OKAY.

SO WHAT WAS THE NUMBER AGAIN? I'M SORRY, 2.5 MILLION.

AND THAT WOULD FUND THE OFFICE THROUGH THE SECOND HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

CORRECT? OKAY.

I GUESS AT CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS.

CORRECT. OKAY.

AND RIGHT NOW JACKIE, HOW MANY STAFF ARE YOU OPERATING WITH? WE CURRENTLY HAVE 40 EMPLOYEES.

WE HAVE WE'RE.

CLOSE TO HIRING AND GETTING OUR PADILLA COMPLIANCE GRANT UP, WHICH WOULD ADD TO THAT FOUR TO THAT NUMBER.

TWO ATTORNEYS, ONE FOREIGN LANGUAGE SPECIALIST AND AN OFFICE ASSISTANT.

I DO EXPECT BY MID TO LATE MONTH NEXT MONTH.

THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO TAKE APPOINTMENTS ON THAT GRANT.

ON WHAT? ON THAT GRANT ON THE GRANT.

OKAY. GOT IT.

WELL, LOOK, I WANT TO I WANT TO CERTAINLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I KNOW YOU CAME IN AS THE INTERIM.

AND I DON'T WANT IN ANY WAY TO MISREPRESENT THAT.

YOU KNOW, US COMING BACK TO REVIEW THIS MIDYEAR, BOTH PD AND MAC IS IS SYMBOLIZES IN ANY WAY THAT WE UNDERVALUE YOUR EFFORTS OR THE EMPLOYEES EFFORTS OR THOSE THAT ARE YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE INDIGENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK BECAUSE OF KIND OF THE CONVERGENCE OF THE TWO, I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS KIND OF A HEALTHY REVIEW OF HOW THINGS ARE OPERATING.

AND THE SAME THING I'LL SAY TO JIM, WHO I KNOW IS COMING UP NEXT WITH THE MAC.

BUT I DO WANT TO THANK YOU, JACKIE.

I KNOW YOU KNOW, FROM MY ESTIMATION, YOU'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB.

AND I THINK FOLKS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT, MOST IMPORTANTLY, ARE GETTING A FAIR SHOT AT JUSTICE, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THERE FOR.

SO I'M CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE JUDGE AND COLLEAGUES OF CAN CONTINUING OPERATING.

AND I THINK THESE THINGS ARE HEALTHY, WHETHER IT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT OR ANYBODY ELSE'S.

YOU KNOW, OUR OUR FIDUCIARY DUTY IS TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT IN A GOOD AND RESPONSIBLE WAY.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED.

SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT AND SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. JUDGE. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

THANK YOU. JUDGE.

FIRST OF ALL, MISS EMERSON, COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY YOUR COMMENTS ON SITE AND RELEASE? CITE AND RELEASE IS A PROGRAM THAT TAKES LOW LEVEL CLASS B MISDEMEANORS.

SO LOW LEVEL THEFT LOW LEVEL MARIJUANA THAT KIND OF THING. THEY WOULD THE OFFICER HAS THE DISCRETION TO ARREST THE PERSON IF THEY CHOSE TO, OR THEY HAVE THE DISCRETION TO WRITE THEM A TICKET TO COME IN AND HANDLE THEIR CASE WITHOUT JAIL TIME.

OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ADVOCATING FOR AN EXPANSION OF THAT POLICY OR NOT, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW. DID I MISINTERPRET THAT? I PERSONALLY DISAGREE, BUT THAT'S NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR BUDGET.

OKAY, YEAH, WE SHOULD KEEP THOSE POLICY DECISIONS OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION, I AGREE.

FROM WHERE I SIT, AS I THINK ABOUT PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND MANAGE ASSIGNED COUNSEL, I THINK ABOUT MEETING THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR INDIGENT DEFENSE AT THE LOWEST COST FOR BEXAR COUNTY TAXPAYERS.

THAT'S MY GOAL.

THAT'S HOW I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS.

SO I DO HAVE CONCERNS, AGAIN, ABOUT THE REDUNDANCY OF THE PROGRAMS ADDITIONAL OVERHEAD.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT MY WHEELHOUSE.

I'VE NEVER WORKED IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

I'M A MARINE AND A BUSINESSMAN.

SO I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, WHY THAT'S NOT THE CASE WHEN WHEN WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS SET UP FOR INDIGENT DEFENSE.

RIGHT. SO THE BEXAR COUNTY PUBLIC OR THE BEXAR COUNTY DA'S OFFICE, RATHER HAS OVER 500 EMPLOYEES.

SO FOR MY OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO BE IN PARITY AND TO HANDLE ALL OF THE CRIMINAL DEFENSE IN BEXAR COUNTY WOULD TAKE SUCH AN INVESTMENT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANYTHING THE COURT IS WILLING TO ENTERTAIN.

LIKEWISE, WE PROVIDE SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU NEED SALARIED EMPLOYEES TO DO AND PROVIDE SAVINGS BECAUSE WE ARE SALARIED EMPLOYEES WITH COVERING THE SPECIALTY COURTS ON TOP OF OUR CASES AND PROVIDING THESE OTHER VALUE ADDING SERVICES.

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I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU FIND IN ADDITION TO JUST HAVING THE CASES DONE THAT, THERE IS SO MANY THINGS, AS A SALARIED EMPLOYEE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO AND COVER. MAGISTRATION IS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE ON A WHEEL SYSTEM TO RUN 24 HOURS A DAY.

SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS YOU NEED US AS THE DIRECT DELIVERY SYSTEM, WHEREAS THE MAC OVERSEES THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

THAT HAS TO TAKE THOSE CASES THAT WERE TOO SMALL TO TAKE.

OKAY. AND THAT'S HELPFUL.

I STILL DEFINITELY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T THINK ARE ALL GOING TO BE ANSWERED TODAY.

YOUR YOUR PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN YOU CAME BACK BEFORE YOU TALKED ABOUT DISMISSAL RATES AND ULTIMATELY POINTING A LOT TO DISPOSITIONS, YOU KNOW, FOR AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, MY TAKE IS THAT PERFORMANCE INDICATORS WOULD BE MORE AROUND TIMELINESS, WHICH YOU MENTIONED.

RIGHT, JOE, VISIT WITHIN TWO DAYS OF APPOINTMENT.

UTILIZATION RATE.

TO ME, THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOUR OFFICE TO THINK ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, THE HEADCOUNT THAT YOU HAVE IS FULLY BEING UTILIZED.

AND AGAIN, THAT GETS AT THE COST PER CASE, WHICH YOU GO INTO ON THE OTHER OTHER SLIDE.

SO THE CASES PER ATTORNEY, THE UTILIZATION RATE, ALL THOSE THINGS I THINK WILL ULTIMATELY IMPACT THE COST PER CASE.

AND THE BOTTOM LINE FOR, FOR BEXAR COUNTY.

AND SO TO ME, I THINK THOSE WOULD BE IMPORTANT PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE GOING FORWARD.

YOU MENTIONED THE, THE MAC AND LARGER CASES.

SO TO ME, AGAIN, COMING FROM OUTSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE, THE MAC SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE SCALABLE, EASILY SCALABLE, WHEREAS YOU'RE ACTUALLY HIRING FULL TIME ATTORNEYS.

HOW SHOULD I THINK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES THERE? YOU WOULD THINK SO.

EXCEPT THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE JUMPS SPOT AND SPEAK TO HIS PROGRAM.

BUT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A STRUGGLE TO HAVE ENOUGH MISDEMEANOR DEFENDERS ON AND THERE ARE ATTORNEYS THAT WANT TO WORK FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THAT WOULD BE HAPPY DOING THOSE MISDEMEANOR CASES.

WHEREAS THE PRIVATE BAR AT THE COST PER CASE THAT YOU'RE PAYING AND THE AMOUNT OF TIMES YOU COME TO DOWNTOWN AND PARK, IT DOESN'T MAKE THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.

PERSONALLY, WHEN I WAS IN PRIVATE PRACTICE, I DID NOT TAKE MISDEMEANORS BECAUSE I COULDN'T MAKE IT WORK FOR ME.

I WOULD PAY MORE IN PARKING TO FOR THE HONOR OF HAVING THE CASE THAN GETTING PAID.

INTERESTING. AND WHO QUALIFIES FOR PUBLIC DEFENSE? IS IS IT SELF-REPORTED BASED ON INCOME ASSETS, OR HOW IS THAT DONE? IT IS DONE ON INCOME AND ASSETS.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT FORMULA BEFORE IT.

IT IS DONE BY PRETRIAL.

THEY ARE THE KIND OF GROUP IN CHARGE OF CONDUCTING THAT INTERVIEW WHEN THEY, THEY ALSO WILL INTERVIEW FOR PERSONAL RECOGNIZANCE BONDS.

AND IT'S ALL PART OF THAT INITIAL ENTRANCE INTO THE JAIL.

WHEN THEY DO THAT COST ASSESSMENT, I KNOW IT IS.

THEY LOOK AT WHAT COMES IN VERSUS WHAT GOES OUT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THE MAGIC NUMBER.

SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ANECDOTAL BUT I'VE HEARD STORIES OF FOLKS WITH, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE UPPER CLASS, WHO HAVE UTILIZED FREE DEFENSE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SELF REPORTED OR IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP OR RESTRAINTS THERE.

BUT WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHERE THE BREAKDOWN WOULD HAVE BEEN.

OKAY. DID YOU HAVE.

YEAH. SO I THINK I KNOW THE I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE, THE CASE THAT WAS IN THAT WAS IN THE NEWS OUT OF THE TWO 90TH DISTRICT COURT.

SO A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS WHENEVER A PERSON DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE A A APPOINTED ATTORNEY, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE TOO MUCH MONEY OR THEY HAVE TOO MANY ASSETS OR WHATEVER, WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CASE I THINK YOU'RE REFERENCING IS THAT PERSON HAD MULTIPLE HIRED ATTORNEYS.

THE CASE HAD DRAGGED ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THE COURT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF THE VICTIM IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.

AND SO THE COURT WAS FACED WITH A DILEMMA TO APPOINT THIS PERSON AN ATTORNEY FROM THE PRIVATE BAR, OR IF IT HAD COME TO OUR OFFICE, WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN IT AS WELL.

BUT TO APPOINT THAT PERSON AN ATTORNEY SO THAT THE TRIAL COULD PROCEED SO THAT THE VICTIM IN THAT CASE COULD GET JUSTICE.

SO THE COURTS STILL HAVE A LOT OF LATITUDE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE WHAT ARE CALLED INTEREST OF JUSTICE APPOINTMENTS.

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SO A PERSON WHO MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE QUALIFY FOR A APPOINTED ATTORNEY, BUT HAS BEEN MAYBE GUMMING UP THE WORKS OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, OR HAS BEEN DIFFICULT OR HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE HIRED ATTORNEYS WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THE COURT AT THAT POINT STEPS IN AND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE NOT PLAYING AROUND ANYMORE, MR. GILMORE. YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS CASE.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE READY TO TRY IT IN A MONTH OR WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE, AND WE JUST STEP UP AND DO IT.

BUT BUT ULTIMATELY, THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS ARE MADE BY, BY THE COURT AND THE INTEREST OF JUSTICE.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

AND I AM IN THE SYSTEM.

I WAS ON A CIVIL SIDE DOCKET, BUT I WAS INVOLVED IN THE MAGISTRATE SYSTEM, PUBLIC DEFENDER, FROM TIME TO TIME, ESPECIALLY AS I WAS IN CHIEF OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE OF THE CHILDREN'S COURT AND OVERSAW ALL THE COURT APPOINTMENT PROCESS, TRAINING, GETTING THE ROLLS, MAKING SURE WE HAD A WHEEL, COMPLYING WITH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO REPORT THEIR AD LITEMS MAKING SURE THAT THEIR FEES ARE REASONABLE, NECESSARY AND REASONABLE.

MY QUESTION TO WHAT COMMISSIONER MOODY JUST ALLUDED TO, TO THAT SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCE OFTEN HAPPEN OVER ON THE CHILDREN'S COURT SIDE, I PRESUME.

AND I DON'T I JUST I'M SURE IT'S IT'S NOT FAIR TO ME TO ASK YOU THIS, BUT I PRESUME THAT ALL INDIGENT DEFENDANTS ARE FILLING OUT AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENCY IN REQUESTING COURT APPOINTED COUNSEL.

SO WHETHER THAT'S BEING DONE OR NOT, WHETHER YOU'RE RELYING ON THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, BECAUSE THAT IS THE MARKER IN WHICH COURT APPOINTED COUNSEL IS KICKED IN.

NOW, THE INTEREST OF JUSTICE IS AN INHERENT RIGHT OF THE COURT AND JUDGE.

JUDGE CAN APPOINT A COUNSEL.

THE QUESTION IS, HAS THAT INDIGENT AS THAT DEFENDANT BEEN DECLARED INDIGENT? BECAUSE IF HE HASN'T BEEN DECLARED INDIGENT, HE MAY BE ENTITLED TO COUNSEL THAT THE COUNTY MUST PAY FOR.

BUT WITHOUT AN INDIGENCY FINDING, HE'S NOT ENTITLED TO THE RECORD AND TRANSCRIPTS OR EVERYTHING.

SO I THINK THE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE MINDFUL IN ORDER TO BE PROTECTIVE OF THE MONIES THAT ARE SPENT ON COURT APPOINTED COUNSELS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE ON THE COURT WANTS TO DIMINISH ANY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE GIDEON CASE.

WHAT WE REALLY DO FOCUS ON, ON FROM HERE IS THE COST OF THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE, UNFAIR FOR US, AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN CHARGE OF A BUDGET, TO BE ASKING THESE TYPE OF QUESTIONS.

SO WHAT WHAT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE.

COMMISSIONERS THAT THESE TYPE OF QUESTIONS, I THINK, ARE FAIR.

I THINK THESE QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED.

MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS.

AND AS I'VE HEARD THIS AFTERNOON, PERHAPS THE WAY IT IS SHOULDN'T BE THE WAY IT IS.

SO WITH THAT, I ALSO WANTED AND I'LL JUST MAKE MY COMMENTS VERY BRIEF ONE I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION.

THIS IS SOMETHING I HAD ASKED FOR, AND I LED THE INITIATIVE TO REVIEW AND BRING THIS THING BACK.

SO TODAY I DO SUPPORT THE FUNDING AND MAKING SURE THAT FAIR INDIGENT DEFENSE IS PROVIDED THROUGH A PUBLIC DEFENDER AND THROUGH THE MAK PROCESS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALSO MADE A REQUEST THAT THE BUDGET OFFICE BE MORE ENGAGED WITH THE PARTICULAR SYSTEMS. AND I'D LIKE A REPORT.

AND THEN, COMMISSIONER MOODY, IF YOU'D ALLOW ME, COULD I GET SOMEBODY FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE TO TELL ME WHAT THIS PROCESS THAT WE DID TO BE HERE TODAY, DID WE ENGAGE WITH THE VARIOUS OFFICES AND HELP THEM BE ABLE TO PREPARE THE REPORTS FOR TODAY? IS THAT TINA? THAT'S YOU? YES, SIR. YES WE DID.

WE HAD WORKED TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE SOME GOOD PERFORMANCE MEASURES JUST BASED ON THE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM COURT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE 100% THERE YET BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE START GETTING MORE USED TO USING ODYSSEY AND ITS CAPABILITIES.

I THINK WE'LL GET BETTER, BUT WE'RE ON A REALLY GOOD PATH.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MOODY, I PASS BACK TO YOU.

JUST A COUPLE LAST POINTS, IF YOU COULD.

AND I HAVE HEARD THIS AS WELL.

AND MAYBE YOU CAN CONFIRM OR NOT THAT WE WERE THE ONLY COUNTY THAT ACTUALLY HAS A MAC AND PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

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THAT IS NOT CORRECT.

I KNOW TRAVIS, AND I BELIEVE HARRIS AS WELL HAVE BOTH.

I THINK JIM HAS BEEN MORE INVOLVED IN THE STATEWIDE INDIGENT DEFENSE.

I'VE BEEN LOCAL AND A LOCAL TRIAL ATTORNEY.

BUT I KNOW THERE ARE FROM A TDC PRESENTATION THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE COUNTIES WITH BOTH SYSTEMS. OKAY, MAYBE YOU COULD PROVIDE OUR OFFICE JUST A LIST OF THOSE COUNTIES.

SO WE HAVE CERTAINLY. COMMISSIONER, COULD I ASK A CLARIFYING YES PLEASE.

DO THEY HAVE A MAC OR DO THEY HAVE A WHEEL SYSTEM? MAC. OKAY.

AND I'LL ADD COMMISSIONER MOODY, IN ADDITION TO OTHER COUNTIES HAVING BOTH A MAC AND A PUBLIC DEFENDER, THE FEDERAL SYSTEM ALSO HAS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT PANEL AS WELL AS A FEDERAL PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

SO IN A LOT OF WAYS, THIS DOES MIRROR THE FEDERAL SYSTEM.

AND I DON'T FULLY THE DIFFERENTIATION YOU MENTIONED THERE, DAVID, BETWEEN THE WHEEL VERSUS THE MAC.

IS THE MAC JUST A MORE FULLY WITH AN OVERHEAD DEPARTMENT VERSUS SO THE MAC, THE MANAGED ASSIGNED COUNCIL DEPARTMENT, IN EFFECT, OVERSEE, SUPERVISES, OVERSEES WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE.

THE PRIVATE ATTORNEYS WHO ARE WHO ARE USED UNDER INDIGENT DEFENSE, OKAY? THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE QUALITY CONTROL OVER OUR AND OUR COUNTY.

THE WHEEL. OKAY.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT, AT LEAST FOR THE TOP 15 COUNTIES IN TEXAS BY SIZE, IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT AND PROVIDE THAT.

CERTAINLY NOT A PROBLEM.

AND AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS THE JUDGE MENTIONED, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO INTO BUDGET SEASON AND THINK ABOUT THIS GOING FORWARD AGAIN I'M NOT HERE TO STOP OUR CURRENT PROCESSES.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO THINK, THOUGH, LONG TERM, OVER THE COMING YEARS, ABOUT WHERE WE CONTINUE TO GROW VERSUS HOW WE OPTIMIZE THE SYSTEM, RIGHT? FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HOW DO WE MEET THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS, THE LOWEST COST TO THE TAXPAYERS.

AND AS WE GO INTO BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE MY DIRECTION TO STAFF TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.

WE WILL PASS THAT ALONG BECAUSE IT WON'T BE US.

THANK YOU. ANY. WAS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? CLAY-FLORES SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES. CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. 74.

[74. Presentation, discussion and appropriate action regarding a report on the progress and effectiveness of the Managed Assigned Counsel Office (MAC); to include the appropriate budgetary transfer.]

MR. BETHKE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT YOU.

SO, PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION OF APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING A REPORT ON THE PROGRESS AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE MANAGER.

ASSIGNED COUNCIL ASSIGNED COUNCIL OFFICE MAC TO INCLUDE THE APPROPRIATE BUDGETARY TRANSFER.

CAN WE, I THINK CAN WE JUST.

BETH. MR.. BETH, I'M GOING TO LET YOU PROCEED, BUT BUDGET OFFICE, CAN YOU ANSWER THE SAME QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? OR IS IT ARE WE GETTING A ARE WE GETTING A WRITTEN PROPOSAL AND MOTION AS FAR AS THE FISCAL NOTE OR FISCAL NOTE ON THIS? YES. JUST ONE SECOND.

OKAY. I'M SURE COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ IS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

SO I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT ANSWERED.

AND I'M SURE COMMISSIONER MOODY'S GOT QUESTIONS AND.

YES. SO THIS ITEM, IT'S 490.

EXCUSE ME, 494,000.

OKAY. IS IT AN ADDITIONAL OR BUDGETARY TRANSFER? YEAH, IT'S A TRANSFER FROM CONTINGENCIES.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE CAN WE GET A MOTION ON OR DO WE NEED FULL DISCUSSION BEFORE MOTION.

DO YOU WANT A MOTION FOR. YEAH.

LET'S GET A MOTION MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR FUNDING FOR MAC.

SECOND MOTION. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RIGGS.

MR. BETHKE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

JUDGE. MEMBERS OF COMMISSIONERS COURT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BEFORE I GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT TINA SAID.

PROBABLY THREE, FOUR MONTHS AGO, TINA, TANYA AND THOMAS ALL GOT WITH OUR OFFICE.

DISCUSSED THE METRICS THAT THEY WANTED US TO PUT TOGETHER.

FOLLOWING UP ON THAT MEETING, WE MET WITH MARK GAGER AND HIS TEAM, AND OVER THE LAST 2 TO 3 MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH BCIT JOHNNY GORDON AND TYLER, SOMETIMES TWO, THREE, FOUR TIMES A WEEK.

I WANT TO THANK BUDGET AND I WANT TO THANK BCIT JOHNNY GORDON AND THE OTHERS FOR REALLY ASSISTING OUR DEPARTMENT TO STEP UP OUR GAME IN REFERENCE TO THE WRITTEN BUSINESS PROCESSES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AS I BEGIN, I REMIND YOU THAT LITERALLY JUST TWO YEARS AND THREE MONTHS AGO THERE WAS WAS NO MANAGER ASSIGNED COUNCIL.

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AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO TODAY IS REALLY GO OVER SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND WHAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE AND ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS. AND THE FIRST QUESTION THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK AND THEN ANSWER IS, HOW WELL IS BEXAR COUNTY? AND IN OUR OFFICE MEETING BEST PRACTICES? A SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE PAYING TO COMPLY WITH STATE AND CONSTITUTIONAL LAW REQUIREMENTS PERTAINING PERTAINING TO INDIGENT INDIGENT DEFENSE REPRESENTATION? AND ARE WE PROVIDING THESE IN A COST EFFECTIVE MANNER? AND THEN THIRD DO WE HAVE THE THE DATA SYSTEM AND THE METRICS IN PLACE TO EITHER VALIDATE OR NOT VALIDATE OUR RESPONSES? GOING TO GET THE NEXT LINE.

READY. I DON'T KNOW.

THERE WE GO. THE.

ABA TEN PRINCIPLES ARE THE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FOUNDATIONAL PIECES OF WHAT WHAT IS NEEDED TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE INDIGENT DEFENSE DELIVERY SYSTEM.

THESE ARE NEWLY REVISED END OF AUGUST.

THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PROMULGATED BACK IN 2002.

AND IN YOUR SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS, I HAVE THE TEN PRINCIPLES IN THE IN THE BACK OF YOUR BOOK, AND THEY'RE LISTED THERE.

OF THE TEN WERE IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH WITH NINE OF THEM, FOUR OF THEM WE'VE MET WHEN THE COUNTY APPLIED FOR THE GRANT TO TO ESTABLISH THE MANAGED SEEING COUNCIL PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY SAID IS THAT THEY WANTED TO BETTER MEET THE ABA TEN PRINCIPLES, THE ONE AREA THAT WE DO HAVE WORK TO DO, PARTICULARLY ON OUR AREA.

I THINK THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS DOING A VERY GOOD JOB ON IT.

IT'S DEALING WITH CONTROLLING OF THE WORKLOADS.

IT'S A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, DEALING WITH CLOSE TO 250 INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS AND THEN THE TOOLS NEEDED. WE'RE ABLE TO SEE THE THE NUMBER OF CASES, BUT WORKLOAD INCLUDES MORE THAN JUST THE CASES THAT IT INCLUDES.

WHAT OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES THE ATTORNEY IS COMPLETING, WHERE ELSE THEY'RE PRACTICING THE TYPES OF PRACTICE.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE VERY AWARE OF.

AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE STATE.

WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OTHERS.

OF COURSE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE TO HOPEFULLY NEXT TIME WE WE REPORT, WE SAY, HEY, WE'VE ARE DOING A BETTER JOB OF CONTROLLING WORKLOADS BECAUSE IT DIRECTLY TIES INTO THE QUALITY OF REPRESENTATION THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO RECEIVE. THE TIMELINE ABOVE, I'VE GOT TO THANK LISA WOOD WITH BCIT, WHO SPENT SOME REALLY VALUABLE TIME WITH US.

GOT US THE SOFTWARE.

AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN ARE THE MILESTONES THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AS WELL AS THE FUNDING THAT THIS PROGRAM HAS BROUGHT IN FROM THE STATE.

AND THEN THE EC JUST E-INVOICE IS WHERE GOING FORWARD, THE THE BOTTOM PART PERTAINS TO ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE WITH OUR ATTORNEY WILL AND QUALIFICATIONS MANAGEMENT.

THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE IMPLEMENTED AND BEGAN OPERATIONS THIS THIS YEAR.

WE'RE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.

WE'RE REALLY STILL BUILDING OUT OUR TEAM.

SO THIS WORK'S NOT DONE.

IT'LL BE ONGOING.

AS WE, WE GO FORWARD.

THE NEXT SLIDE AGAIN, WE HAVE THE MILESTONES AND THINGS ALONG THE TOP OF IT.

BUT ONE OF THE AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THE FORMATION OF THIS OFFICE THERE WAS NO TRIAL SUPPORT TO THOSE LAWYERS THAT WERE SERVING ON THE PANEL.

THERE WAS REALLY NO OVERSIGHT TO, TO SPEAK OF.

AND THERE WAS NO TARGETED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, MENTORSHIP AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO, TO REALLY WORK AND SUPPORT AND TRY TO LIFT UP. I BELIEVE THAT AND WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK ON A SURVEY THAT WE'RE SENDING OUT TO THE THE BAR ON WHAT KIND OF IMPACT WE'RE HAVING, WHAT KIND OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.

THE JUDGES CURRENTLY HAVE A SURVEY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK THE FINDINGS ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.

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WELL, WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

INSIGHTFUL MEASUREMENT AND EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT OF THE MANAGED SIGN COUNCIL PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT WAS FOR US TO PROCURE A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND DO AN ASSESSMENT OF OUR OF OUR PROGRAM.

WE HAVE DOCTOR TYLER HERE TODAY WITH US.

WHO WAS THE PRINCIPAL AND LEAD INVESTIGATOR? SHE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE FORMER CHIEF DEFENDER FOR THE STATE OF COLORADO AND THE CHIEF DEFENDER FROM THE STATE OF KENTUCKY, WHO ALSO SERVED A NUMBER OF YEARS AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC DEFENSE.

THE ASSESSMENT, OF COURSE, FOUND A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT WE MUST STRENGTHEN.

AND THE REPORT ALSO PROVIDES A STEP BY STEP GUIDE ON WHAT METRICS WE SHOULD BE CAPTURING, HOW TO CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION, AND REALLY HOW TO BECOME A DATA DRIVEN PROGRAM.

FORTUNATELY, THE STATE IS REALLY IS RECOMMENDED IN THE ABA TEN PRINCIPLES HAS FUNDED A RESEARCH SENIOR RESEARCH DATA ANALYST MICHAELA SADIK-KHAN IS HERE WITH US.

WE HAVE LITERALLY THE TWO STATE FUNDED SENIOR RESEARCH DATA ANALYSTS IN THE STATE.

BECAUSE DOCTOR TYLER ALSO WORKS PART TIME IN THAT CAPACITY AT THE DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH FOR THE HARRIS COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

AND IF YOU WANT, I KNOW DOCTOR TYLER WILL BE AVAILABLE WHEN WE FINISH FOR COMMENTS OR TO CORRECT IF I'VE MISSTATED ANYTHING. THE NEXT SLIDE REALLY HIGHLIGHTS OF SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE OVER THE LAST YEAR, DISTILLING IT DOWN INTO REALLY THREE KEY AREAS.

BEFORE ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE CAN BE DONE, YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH YOUR YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU'VE GOT TO GET YOUR THE FURNITURE IN YOUR HOUSE, YOU'VE GOT TO GET YOUR PEOPLE AND YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IN PLACE WRITTEN POLICIES AND RULES, HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK.

WE'VE GOTTEN THAT ACCOMPLISHED.

WE BEGAN TWO OF OUR THREE CORE RESPONSIBILITIES LAST YEAR DEALING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF ASSIGNMENTS, PROCESSING, REVIEWING VOUCHERS.

WE ALSO IN 22 WERE ABLE TO ESTABLISH OUR, OUR MENTAL HEALTH DIVISION.

THAT'S PART OF THE THE FULL BLOWN MAC.

AND THEN THE THIRD PART DEALS WITH THE SUPPORT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO THE PRIVATE PANEL ATTORNEYS.

CASES DISPOSED IN CALENDAR YEAR 23.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK BCIT AND ITS TEAM AND JOHNNY GORDON FOR, YOU KNOW, PULLING OUT THIS INFORMATION FROM THE LEGACY SYSTEM.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT NO ONE EVER THINKS BCIT, SO I JUST HAD TO GIVE MARK AND HIS TEAM A MOMENT.

AND I MEAN, WE ALWAYS THANK THEM.

THEY COME FIX OUR STUFF, BUT I JUST HAD TO INTERRUPT YOU AND GIVE MARK HIS MOMENT AND HIS AND HIS TEAM BACK THERE.

Y'ALL CAN WAVE SO AND IT'S GENUINE BECAUSE WE WE COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN WHERE WE'RE AT WITHOUT THAT SUPPORT.

SO I'M REALLY OUR WHOLE TEAM IS GRATEFUL.

BUT AS YOU SEE IN 23 THE COURTS, THE MISDEMEANOR COUNTY CRIMINAL COURTS DISPOSED OF CLOSE TO 29,000 CASES.

OF THOSE 29,000 CASES, YOUR YOUR PRIVATE PANEL ATTORNEYS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR 60%.

OF THOSE 33% WERE HIRED, 8% ON THE THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS.

AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS REPORT WITH SOME OTHERS, THEY SAID, WELL, IS THAT NUMBER WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE DISPARAGING? AND I'M LIKE, WELL, NO, IT'S NOT BASED ON WHAT THE THE NUMBERS THEY HAVE.

AND WHAT THIS NUMBER DOESN'T REFLECT IS WHAT JACQUELINE WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

THE 24 OVER SEVEN COVERAGE, 365 DAYS A YEAR, AND MAGISTRATE.

THAT EQUATES TO, OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, CLOSE TO 29 OR 30,000 PEOPLE THAT THEY SEE.

THAT IS ONE OF THE THE BEST PRACTICES PLUS THE SUPPORT THAT THEY PROVIDE TO THE SPECIALTY COURT.

SO THESE THESE NUMBERS DON'T REFLECT THAT.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE PERFORMING THESE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES.

ON THE FELONY SIDE THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT COURTS DISPOSED OF JUST OVER 19,000 CASES.

THE PRIVATE PANEL ATTORNEYS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESENTATION IN 70%.

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AND THEN ON THE HIRED 27% AND THEN 3% ON ON THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, THE RATES OF PEOPLE GETTING ASSIGNED COURT APPOINTED COUNSEL.

IN BEXAR COUNTY IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE STATEWIDE AVERAGES.

THE AVERAGE COST PER CASE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AS YOU ALL WERE AWARE.

YOU KNOW, HIS HAS GROWN AT A MODEST RATE.

IT'S NOT GROWN ANY FASTER THAN THE OTHER JURISDICTION, OTHER 253 COUNTIES, AND IT'S GROWN AT A LOWER RATE THAN OUR FOR OTHER MAJOR URBAN COUNTIES IN TEXAS, THEY'RE ALL EXCEED A POPULATION OF OVER 1 MILLION.

THE COMPARED I DIDN'T WE DIDN'T PUT ON THE SLIDE, BUT ON THE MAC FELONY AT 570 THE OTHER MAJOR URBANS THEIR AVERAGE COST PER CASE ON THE FELONY SIDE IS 887, OUR MISDEMEANOR 196, THE OTHER FOUR MAJOR URBAN COUNTIES IS 471.

THIS SLIDE IS THE ONE THAT'S A LITTLE DISTURBING TO ME, AND IT'S ONE THAT I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, AND IT'S ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET CONTROL OF IT.

YOU SEE, IN 2019 JUST UNDER 10% OF THE ATTORNEYS ON THE PANEL WERE EXCEEDING THE TDC CASELOADS.

THE STATE CAME OUT WITH IN 2016 THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE REPORT SUBMITTED TO THE COURT IN 2020, THE PUBLIC POLICY RESEARCH INSTITUTE AT TEXAS A&M DID IT.

WE RAN THE NUMBERS OR BCIT AND THEIR TEAM HELPED OUR TEAM.

WE HAVE THREE TIMES MORE THAT ARE OVER IDC'S WEIGHTED CASELOAD GUIDELINES.

WHAT WE SUSPECT AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DRILL INTO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND REPORT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ON THE PRIVATE PANEL IS HALF OF WHAT IT WAS PRE-PANDEMIC. WHY? THE THE NUMBERS IT WAS.

AND JUDGE SAKAI, I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER THE NUMBERS USED TO BE 4 OR 500 ON THE PANEL.

NOW IT'S IT'S SLIGHTLY OVER, YOU KNOW, 200.

THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE CAPACITY HAS GROWN SOME, BUT NOW IT A SIGNIFICANT MATTER.

WE HAVE BEEN.

AND OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING HARD TO INCREASE THE NUMBERS OF THOSE TO SERVE ON THE PANEL.

AND VERY MODEST INCREASES HAVE BEEN MADE IN THAT ARENA.

WE HAVE TO DO MORE WORK IN THAT AREA TO EXPAND THE PANEL.

SO KNOW THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE SEEKING.

YOU KNOW, OUR FRIENDS IN AUSTIN.

THAT ARE HELPING FUND THIS FOR IDEAS ON WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH SAINT MARY'S SCHOOL OF LAW.

AND SO THIS IS AN AREA THIS I FEEL IS KIND OF PROBABLY ONE OF THE, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING COMING INTO 2024. THIS I WAS ACTUALLY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WHEN WE LOOKED AT ONE PARTICULAR TYPE OF OUTCOMES IN MISDEMEANOR AND FELONY CASES.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF OTHER POSITIVE TYPES OF OUTCOMES.

AND IT'S THE EQ JUST GETS LAUNCHED THIS SUMMER, THEN WE CAN DO DEEPER DIVES.

AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE HAS ALREADY KIND OF HIT UPON SOME OF THE OTHER POSITIVE OUTCOMES.

BUT THE BEST OUTCOME SOMEBODY THE ACCUSED CAN GET IS NON CONVICTION.

SO THAT'S EITHER THROUGH A DISMISSAL OR AN ACQUITTAL.

AND YOU'LL SEE BOTH THE MANAGED SIDE COUNCIL PROGRAM PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE COMPARED TO THOSE PERSONS WHO HAD THE ABILITY TO HIRE COUNSEL.

THE NUMBERS ARE VERY SIMILAR.

AND ON THE MISDEMEANOR CASES OVER 55% OF THE CASES HANDLED BY OUR PRIVATE PANEL CASES EITHER GOT DISMISSED OR THERE WAS AN ACQUITTAL, 56% BY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER COMPARED TO 57% HIGHER NUMBERS, VERY SIMILAR ON THE FELONY SIDE, 53% BY THE PRIVATE PANEL, 59% BY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE AND 54 CENT

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PERCENT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS IN 22, 23 THE FELONY AGAIN, ABOUT THE SAME THAT THIS IS OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, BEST OUTCOME, NO CONVICTION OR CONVICTION.

SO. I THE CONCLUDING SLIDE AND THIS IS NOT EVERYONE, BUT I REALLY THINK THE POSITIVE STEPS WE'VE MADE FORWARD IS REFLECTIVE ON THE GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS, BOTH GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC ADVOCATES AND OTHERS KIND OF WORKING TOGETHER, EVEN SOME NATIONAL GROUPS.

OUR TEAM PRIDES ITSELF ON WORKING MEANINGFULLY AND IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY.

I KNOW WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE'RE AT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF OUR OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND AND OTHER DEPARTMENT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED YET, BUT IT'S REALLY PROVIDED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ASSISTANCE.

IS THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE THEIR POLICY PROGRAMS AND PLANNING THROUGH THE PRETRIAL SERVICES.

JACQUELINE MENTIONED IT.

WE MEET MONTHLY WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEIR CRIMINAL JUSTICE INTEGRITY UNIT AND HAVE WEEKLY, OR AT LEAST BI MONTHLY MEETINGS AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SO I THINK THOSE CONTINUED COLLABORATIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS, HAVING HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY WORK ACROSS ALL 254 JURISDICTIONS, THE ONE THING WHERE BEXAR COUNTY SEPARATES ITSELF IS THE DEPARTMENT'S WILLINGNESS TO MEANINGFULLY WORK TOGETHER.

SOME JURISDICTIONS SAY THEY DO, BUT THEY DON'T.

MY EXPERIENCE HERE IS WE DO HAVE THAT COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER WOODY? SURE. JIM, THANKS FOR THE OVERVIEW.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY.

SO THE 500,000.

ROUGHLY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY.

SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE THE OVERHEAD FOR MAC.

THAT'S NOT ANY OF THE ATTORNEY FEES.

THE ATTORNEY FEES ARE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THAT GET REIMBURSED.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS OVERHEAD.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF I MISSED IT.

DID YOU MENTIONED OTHER COUNTIES COSTS PER CASE? COULD YOU JUST REITERATE THOSE? I MISSED THEM, YES.

THIS WAS THE FOR WE HAVE FIVE COUNTIES, INCLUDING THERE OVER 1,000,004.

ON THE FELONY SIDE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE $887 AVERAGE.

AND ON THE MISDEMEANOR SIDE, THE FOR AVERAGE OUT TO 497.

AND I'VE GOT THE SPECIFICS ON EACH, YOU KNOW, COUNTY BREAKDOWN THAT I'M HAPPY TO GET TO, TO PAUL AND ACTUALLY ALL OF YOUR CHIEFS ON THAT I'M CURIOUS DO YOU HAVE A FEELING, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE UNDER FOR BOTH, BUT DEFINITELY EVEN MORE SO ON THE MISDEMEANOR SIDE. DO YOU HAVE A FEELING FOR WHY THAT IS? I DO AND IN, IN IT'S IN AND WE'VE GOT A REPORT THAT WE WORKED ON IN IN 2022.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD HAPPENED JURISDICTIONS REALLY ACROSS THE STATE HAD HAD MOVED THEIR MISDEMEANOR FEES MORE THAN BEXAR COUNTY HAD.

I HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE JUDGES IN LIKE 2018.

I MEAN, LIKE 2017 2016 ABOUT I THINK IT WAS AROUND $140 FLAT FEE BACK THEN.

BUT ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER 26, I THINK IT'S 052 DEALING WITH THE PAY IS IT SAYS, HEY, IF YOU HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE FACTORS.

AND AT THAT POINT BEXAR COUNTY HAD LIKE 230 AND I AND WITH THE JUDGE, I WAS TALKING WHEN I WAS HEAD OF THE STATE AGENCY, I WAS LIKE YOU'VE GOT US. BUT SO WHAT HAPPENED IS THE COUNTY CRIMINAL COURTS, WE PUT TOGETHER A POLICY ANALYSIS, AND THEY ADOPTED A REVISED FEE SCHEDULE TAKING THE FLAT FEE FROM, YOU KNOW, ONE, I THINK IT WAS 180 TO 300.

AND THEN BEING AN ATTORNEY'S ARE ABLE TO ITEMIZE ON REALLY KIND OF I THINK THE TWO TYPES OF CASES AND REALLY REPRESENT ABOUT 50% OF THE DOCKET THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND DWI ATTORNEYS HAVE.

AND SO I THINK THE REASON OTHER JURISDICTIONS NUMBERS ARE HIGHER IS, I THINK, KIND OF NOT UNLIKE OUR CRIMINAL DISTRICT COURT.

THEY STAIR STEPPED IT OVER TIME.

AND SO WE SAW, YOU KNOW, A RELATIVELY NOT INSIGNIFICANT STEP LAST YEAR.

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SO I DO ANTICIPATE THAT NUMBER PROBABLY CONTINUING TO RISE.

WE'RE WE'RE CONSCIENTIOUS.

I KNOW JACQUELINE AND HER TEAM ARE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT AN UNLIMITED RESOURCE, AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CASE AND SHOW WHAT KIND OF IMPACT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS DERELICT AND INCLUDING IN THIS PRESENTATION IS LIKE WHERE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZED VARIOUS COST SAVING WHEN WE COME BACK, YOU KNOW, LATER IN THE YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO CALCULATE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE THEN IT KIND OF TAKES AWAY A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE PAIN WHEN IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE SEE THESE NUMBERS GOING UP.

YEAH. QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE PTO VERSUS THE MAC.

SO FOR, FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SHOWS UP IN THE JAIL, HOW DO YOU END UP BEING ASSIGNED A PTO VERSUS THE MAC? IS THAT A PERSONAL DECISION OR WHO GETS THERE FIRST OR HOW? NO. GREAT QUESTION THERE.

THERE BASICALLY IS AN ALGORITHM THAT'S SET UP I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS.

AND IF I'M IF I'M UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY, WE'RE ON THE ASSIGNMENTS.

I SAY WE ADMINISTER ASSIGNMENTS, BUT WE'RE REALLY DOING IT OFF THE BACKBONE OF PRETRIAL SERVICES AND THE WORK THAT THE COUNTY.

SO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE GETS CERTAIN NUMBER OF CASES UNTIL THEIR ATTORNEYS REACH A CERTAIN CAPACITY.

THEN THE REST OF THE CASES GET DISTRIBUTED OUT TO THE PANEL, TO THE PANEL ATTORNEYS.

OKAY. SO I THINK THAT'S POSITIVE FROM THE FACT THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO FILL UP THE UTILIZATION OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE BEFORE YOU LIKE PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE WITH THE MAC. RIGHT, EXACTLY.

AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT WHICH SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE GOTTEN THEMSELVES KIND OF IN A LITTLE BIT OF HOT WATER WITH HARRIS COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE.

THERE ARE CERTAIN JUDGES NOT UTILIZING THE PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE.

AND WHEN THAT BECAME APPARENT, A NUMBER OF THOSE JUDGES GOT GRIEVED.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

HERE IN.

IN BEXAR COUNTY. SO BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE SAID IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE, THEY ARE TO GET PREFERENCE ON THE CASES.

THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE'VE JUST RECENTLY INITIATED A MENTAL HEALTH WE'LL PUBLIC DEFENDER.

THAT'S ONE OF THEIR CORE RESPONSIBILITIES.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE MENTAL HEALTH CASES ONCE THEY REACH CAPACITY.

THEN WE MOVE TO OUR MENTAL HEALTH WHEEL.

OKAY. AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION, SO WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE DO THAT YOU CAN'T.

WHAT THEY DO IS PROVIDE DIRECT CLIENT SERVICES REPRESENTATION.

SO ONCE THEY GET ASSIGNED THE CASE, THEY'RE MEETING WITH THE CLIENT.

THEY'RE REPRESENTING THE CLIENT.

IF THE BOND IS HIGH, THEY GO IN AND FILE THE MOTION OR WRIT TO REDUCE IT.

THEY WORK WITH THE WITH THE STATE TO GET TO DO THE LEAST HARM TO THEIR CLIENT.

IF THE STATE'S BEING UNREASONABLE, THEN THEY WOULDN'T THAT BE THE SAME THING THAT AN ATTORNEY THAT THE MAC ASSIGNED WOULD DO? YES. SO THE PRIVATE DEFENDER DOES THAT.

I WAS THINKING, I THOUGHT YOU ASKED WHAT WHAT DO THEY DO DIFFERENT THAN OUR OFFICE? WE WE ADMINISTER OVERSEE.

THEY ACTUALLY BUT NO OUR PANEL ATTORNEYS DO THAT SAME SAME THING.

SO OUR PANEL ATTORNEYS ARE LIKE THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS EXCEPT THEY'RE PRIVATE.

AND THE OTHER IS, YOU KNOW, A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.

BUT ULTIMATELY, BETWEEN THE PROCESS AT THE MAC AND WHAT'S AT THE PD'S OFFICE AN ATTORNEY APPOINTED BY THE MAC WOULD DO THE SAME THING THAT AN ATTORNEY WITH OUR PDO OFFICE WOULD DO.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE LIKE VARIATIONS HERE THAT I HOPE WE CAN GET STRAIGHTENED OUT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE DATA.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S GOOD INFORMATION HERE.

THE CHALLENGE, THOUGH, IS SOME OF IT IS CONFLICTING OR CONTRADICTS ONE ANOTHER.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT SO THE COST PER CASE.

SO YOUR NUMBERS WERE, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE COST PER CASE OF 196 AND 570.

BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE PDOS SLIDE.

AND THEY HAD WELL, THEY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FEES, BUT ALL THOSE FEES ARE OVER THAT $200.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE THE DIFFERENT REPORTING.

AND I'VE GOT MY TWO DATA EXPERTS HERE.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THE REASON AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU AND HAVE A SPECIFIC ANSWER.

HOWEVER I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR, THEIR COST PER CASE.

NOW, MAYBE THEY LOOKED AT THE TOTALITY OF THE, THE PANEL ATTORNEYS, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

DID YOU. WELL, I MEAN, WHEN THE CHIEFS I'M JESSE TYLER, BUT WHEN THE CHIEF WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER COST PER CASE, THEY MEANT FOR

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THEIR ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING PEOPLE THROUGH THEIR OFFICE AND THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE THAT SHOWS THE MISDEMEANOR AND FELONY COST PER CASE THAT IS PAID OUT BY VOUCHERS TO THE PANEL ATTORNEYS, BY THE MAN WHO'S ASSIGNED COUNCIL.

SO THEY DO NOT MATCH BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MEASURING THE SAME THING.

WELL, BUT I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAY AN ATTORNEY, A FEE, WHETHER THAT'S 350 THEN THERE'S SOME SORT OF OVERHEAD FROM MAC THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ABOVE THAT NUMBER. BUT WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING HERE IS THE 196 PER CASE, WHICH IS LESS THAN THAT NUMBER.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW HOW WE GOT TO THAT.

OR ARE ALL THE CASES NOT ACTUALLY HAVING A VOUCHER ASSIGNED TO THEM THAT'S BEING PAID OUT.

SO THE THE 300 CAN I LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

DO YOU MIND IF I WALK UP THERE.

YEAH. I'M JUST I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT YOU PRESENTED.

SLIDE NINE OKAY.

AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SLIDE NINE RIGHT.

AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING. MISDEMEANOR AVERAGE COST PER CASE IN 2024 IS $196.

OKAY. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO COMPARE THAT TO ALL THE FLAT RATE FEES THAT WERE PRESENTED BY THE PTO IN REFERENCE TO THE TO THE MAC. THE PDO WROTE DOWN THE MAC CAN DO YOU HAVE THAT PIECE OF PAPER IN FRONT OF YOU? IT SAYS MAC.

COST PER CASE, MISDEMEANOR MENTAL HEALTH FLAT RATE $350 MISDEMEANOR.

FAMILY VIOLENCE DWI $600.

MISDEMEANOR DAY OF TRIAL DISMISSAL $500.

ALL OTHER MISDEMEANORS WITH JAIL VISIT $400.

YEAH YEAH YEAH THAT THAT WOULD.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE FEE SCHEDULE.

WHAT HAPPENS IS IF A PANEL ATTORNEY SAY, AND THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON, THERE WILL BE THREE CASES.

AND AS A RESULT OF THE PLEA, ONE CASE WILL GET PLED TO TWO CASES GET DISMISSED.

SO THEN IF THE FLAT FEE WAS, SAY, 300, THAT COST PER CASE, THREE CASES DISPOSED, ONE PLED, TWO DISMISSED, IT DROPS DOWN TO $100.

OH, SO IF IT'S DISMISSED, THEN YOU'RE NOT PAYING THAT FEE WITH IT GOING FORWARD.

THAT'S WHY I SAY ASK THAT AGAIN.

SO IF THE CASE IS DISMISSED, YOU'RE NOT PAYING THAT SAME FEE.

SO I THINK IT'S MORE SO SORRY.

THAT'S. GO AHEAD.

I'M MICHELA, I'M THE SENIOR RESEARCH DATA ANALYST WITH THE MAC.

SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS IF A CLIENT COMES IN AND THEY HAVE THREE CHARGES AND TWO ARE DISMISSED AND WE KEEP THE ONE, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET PAID OUT ON THE ONE.

NOW THE WAY THE AUDITORS PAY OUT IS THEY SPLIT THAT PAYMENT ACROSS TO THREE.

SO THESE AMOUNTS ARE LOWER WHICH ARE GOING TO REDUCE THE AVERAGE.

OKAY I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH. BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

WELL AGAIN ULTIMATELY I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO DEEP HERE.

BUT I THINK AS WE GO FORWARD AND WE TRY TO IMPROVE OUR REPORTING, WE HAVE TO GET TO AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON RIGHT BETWEEN PDO AND MAC IN TERMS OF COST PER CASE. AND MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPARING THE SAME THINGS.

SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I WAS GOING TO MENTION.

I ALSO JUST POINT OUT IN LOOKING AT THE SLIDES BETWEEN THE TWO, THE CONVICTION RATES OR THE DISMISSAL RATES DIDN'T SEEM TO MATCH UP EITHER BETWEEN WHAT MAC REPORTED AND PDO.

SO AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO PROBLEM SOLVE IT HERE, BUT.

WELL, I MEAN THAT'S A SIMPLE ANSWER.

SO AGAIN THEY'RE PRESENTING THEIRS AND WE'RE PRESENTING OURS.

BUT THEY PRESENTED FOR A SIX MONTH PERIOD.

THIS IS A 12 MONTH PERIOD.

SO AGAIN IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

THEY ALSO PRESENTED DEFENDANT BASED.

AND THE WAY THAT THE DATA WAS ABLE TO BE PULLED FOR US TO USE TO DO THIS.

IT'S CASE BASED.

SO ONE PERSON WITH SIX CASES IN THIS, IF FIVE OF THOSE WERE DISMISSED AND ONE OF THEM WOULD BE CONVICTED, FIVE GO INTO DISMISSAL, ONE INTO CONVICTED BECAUSE IT'S CASES, BUT FOR THEIRS IT WOULD BE CONVICTED BECAUSE IT'S ONE HUMAN.

OKAY. AGAIN JUST REPORTING MAKING SURE WE'RE WE'RE APPLES TO APPLES GOING FORWARD.

LAST POINT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE THE RATE INCREASE DECISION, WHICH YOU PROVIDED SOME BACKGROUND ON.

AND I'M NOT GETTING INTO THE, THE, THE ACCURACY OR THE LEVEL, BUT IF THAT DECISION IS MADE BY THE JUDGES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THEY'RE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEE SCHEDULE.

TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE A COUNTY BUSINESS RISK, BECAUSE IF THE THE JUDGES DECIDED TOMORROW TO GO TO $500, THAT COULD HAVE A $10 MILLION IMPACT ON OUR GENERAL BUDGET AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT.

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SO TO ME, I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESOLVE THAT, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE MORE COMMUNICATION AROUND THAT AS WE GO FORWARD, BECAUSE THAT COULD HAVE HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR BUDGET.

YES. AND LAST YEAR IN MAY, I HAD THAT EXACT CONVERSATION WITH TINA, THOMAS, TANYA AND THOMAS OVER THERE AS WELL THAT I'M INVOLVED IN IT.

THERE IS GOING TO BE BETTER COMMUNICATION.

NO, NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS.

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WELL, LET ME TO ANSWER, COMMISSIONER MOODY'S TINA OR TANYA DIDN'T ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I DID BEFORE I LEFT THE CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WAS CREATE A COMMITTEE BETWEEN THE COURTS, THE BUDGET OFFICE, THE DA'S OFFICE, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AD LITEM ASSOCIATION FOR CHILDREN'S COURT.

DIDN'T WE DO HARD WORK THAT ULTIMATELY JUSTIFIED A FEE INCREASE? WHEN? AFTER I LEFT, I PRESUME? YES. WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS.

THE BUDGET OFFICE DIDN'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THE OUTCOME OF THE MEETINGS, BUT WE WERE INVOLVED AND WE WERE AWARE OF WHAT WAS COMING.

AND WOULDN'T SOME OF THE POSITIVE OUTCOMES OF THAT WOULD THAT WE WE, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THROUGH BUDGET OFFICE, COULD THEN ANTICIPATE WHAT FEE INCREASES WERE COMING. IT WAS VERY HELPFUL IN THAT REGARD, AND THAT COULD HELP FOR THE BUDGET FORECAST TO ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

SO, COMMISSIONER MOODY, I THINK IT'S BEEN DONE.

AND JIM, THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT WASN'T.

BUT I THINK IF WE WERE TO SET UP A PROCESS AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY SIX MONTHS AGO, I ASKED THE BUDGET OFFICE TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH BOTH YOUR OFFICE AND THE PTO.

SO I HOPE THE WASN'T MISUNDERSTOOD.

ALL RIGHT. WASN'T ON OUR PART.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

YEAH. SO TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER MOODY'S LAST QUESTION.

SO THE FEES WERE INCREASED IN ORDER TO ATTRACT MORE ATTORNEYS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS TO ATTRACT PLUS OUR FEE, I FEEL WAS CONSTITUTIONALLY BASED ON THE STUDY NOW.

SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

HOW MANY ATTORNEYS DO WE HAVE THEN AND HOW MANY DO WE HAVE NOW? OKAY, WE HAD ON THE MISDEMEANOR SIDE.

WE HAD LIKE 68.

THE NUMBER NOW IS MAYBE LIKE SLIGHTLY OVER 80.

BUT LET ME GET SPECIFICS WHEN WE GET.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF THE FEE WAS INCREASED SUPPOSEDLY TO ATTRACT MORE, DID IT WORK? I THINK IT HAD SOME EFFECT.

I DON'T THINK IT HAD QUITE THE EFFECT THAT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY. SO TO REITERATE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES WERE SAYING, THERE'S GOING TO BE BETTER COMMUNICATION BECAUSE FEES ARE, YOU KNOW, INCREASED.

BUT WE'RE THE WE'RE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUDGET AND TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

THAT'S THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

YEAH. SO THANK YOU.

AND SO ALSO I KNOW WHEN, WHEN WE FIRST HIRED YOU ONE OF THE REASONS TO, TO HIRE YOU AND TO JUST SUPPORT THE MAC IN GENERAL WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW THESE INDIVIDUAL OR PRIVATE ATTORNEYS DIDN'T HAVE COMMUNICATION.

WITH THEIR CLIENTS.

SO HAVE YOU BEEN TRACKING? IS THERE AN AVERAGE NUMBER? YOU CAN TELL ME HOW MANY TIMES AN ATTORNEY TALKS TO THEIR CLIENTS BEFORE TRIAL NOW.

YES, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH BCIT AND SPECIFICALLY THE INVOICE LAUNCH FOR THAT IS COMING.

SO IF WE HAVE ODYSSEY LAUNCH JUNE 3RD, THEN THIS IS EXPECTED IN EARLY AUGUST.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY ON THIS CONFIGURATION TO GET THAT EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU.

WE ARE GOING TO BE TRACKING THEIR FIRST AND SECOND CONTACT.

BUT MORE THAN THAT, WHAT TYPE OF CONTACT WAS THIS IN PERSON? WAS IT OVER THE PHONE.

AND THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE VOUCHER.

AND HOW LONG FROM WHEN THEY GOT ASSIGNED TO THE CLIENT? AND WE'LL HAVE THAT DATE AS WELL BECAUSE ON THE INVOICE IT PULLS IN FROM ODYSSEY DIRECTLY WHEN THE ATTORNEY WAS ASSIGNED.

AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT DIFFERENCE.

AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE QUESTION THAT WE CAN ANSWER AT GO LIVE WITH THE INVOICE BECAUSE IT WILL BE ON THE.

OKAY. SO WHEN Y'ALL FIND THAT ANSWER WILL YOU COMMUNICATE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. SEND THAT TO MY OFFICE AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR THE NEXT TIME Y'ALL COME IN SIX MONTHS? AND I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN? ABSOLUTELY. YOU SENT TO MY OFFICE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LAST THING SO I REMEMBER WHEN WE HIRED YOU.

SO ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE.

IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE COUNTY EMPLOYEES? YES, MOST. AND WE EVEN KNOW THE DEPARTMENT.

YOUR DEPARTMENT? WE HAVE EVEN SO MUCH.

SAY AGAIN, COMMISSIONER, I DIDN'T KNOW YOUR DEPARTMENT HAD GROWN MORE THAN LIKE YOU AND A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.

WE HAVE 16, AND THE ORIGINAL GRANT APPLICATION HAD RECOMMENDED 28.

WE'RE RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT 12 OR 13, BUT WE DO.

WE HAVE LEVERAGED LIKE UTSA, SAINT MARY'S LAW, AND WE'VE GOTTEN SOME INCREDIBLE SUPPORT FROM INTERNS.

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OKAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, EVERYONE.

MR. RODRIGUEZ. I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF, JUDGE.

JIM, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION RECENTLY ABOUT THOSE HIGHER LEVEL OFFENSES, THE CAPITAL MURDER CASES THE AVAILABILITY OF LAWYERS WHO ARE QUALIFIED TO TAKE THOSE CASES.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOUR OFFICE IS A PART OF, IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE? OR IS THAT COMPLETELY UP TO THE JUDGES ON THE CAPITAL CASES? IT IS ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF OUR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY, I THINK JUDGE HARRELL AND GROUP OF JUDGES THERE.

SO YOU'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT? I'M NOT. WE'RE NOT INVOLVED ON THAT.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLEAR IN MY HEAD.

THE OTHER THING, I GUESS MAYBE MORE FOR FOR BUDGET.

WHEN WE WHEN WE TOOK ON THIS PROGRAM IT WAS GRANT FUNDED, IN PART REMIND ME OF THE TERMS OF THAT.

IT WAS IT WAS THE THE FIRST THREE YEARS THAT THE STATE HELPED WITH THE COST.

AND IT STARTED TO KIND OF.

YEAH, THE THRESHOLD KIND OF DROPPED OFF.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO GRANTS THROUGH THE STATE.

ONE KIND OF THE CORE MAC.

THAT'S A FOUR YEAR GRANT.

WE'VE JUST STARTED THE THE THIRD YEAR FUNDING WAS 80, 60, 40, 20.

IN THAT SAME YEAR, WE ALSO APPLIED FOR A MENTAL HEALTH DIVISION CONSISTING OF THREE PEOPLE.

THAT GRANT WAS APPROVED FOR SIX YEARS.

FUNDING FOR THAT WAS 100%, 100%.

THE STATE GOT SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT WAS TARGETED FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

I'LL BE COMING TO COURT NEXT MONTH TO REQUEST, YOU KNOW, THE CONTINUED FUNDING FOR BOTH THE MENTAL HEALTH DIVISION AND OURS.

WE HAD TALKED WITH THE STATE ABOUT COLLAPSING THEM.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, THE CORE MAC IS A FOUR YEAR GRANT.

WE'VE JUST ENTERED INTO OUR THIRD YEAR.

THE MENTAL HEALTH GRANT.

WE ARE JUST FINISHING UP OUR SECOND YEAR.

THAT GRANT EXPIRES IN JULY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET IT EXTENDED TO OCTOBER SO THAT THEY'RE BOTH ON THE SAME TIMELINE.

AND THEN THERE'S FOUR ADDITIONAL YEARS OF FUNDING, WHICH WILL BE CONSIDERED AN IMPROVEMENT GRANT THAT WILL GO FROM 80, 60, 40, 20.

OKAY. OKAY. SO YOU KNOW, KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT SOME PROGRAMS THAT ARE COUNTY FUNDED IN PART THROUGH SUPPLEMENTAL DOLLARS IN THIS CASE, THE STATE AND OTHER CASES, ARPA.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS COURT TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING.

I DON'T WANT TO REITERATE IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, TIGHTEN SOME BELTS, MAYBE DO SOME OTHER THINGS CREATIVELY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUSTAIN PROGRAMS. AND SO I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, JIM.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD SOME REGULAR UPDATES WOULD BE HELPFUL SO THAT WE JUST DON'T GET IT AT THE END.

AND YOU KNOW, AS WE FACE SOME OF THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU KNOW, YOUR OFFICE AND THE PD'S OFFICE COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER, WHETHER IT'S WORTH CONTINUING IN THAT DIRECTION OR COMBINING IN SOME FASHION.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THAT THOSE DECISIONS BASED ON I, YOU KNOW, I GET THIS, AND I, AND I GET A LOT OF COMMISSIONER MOODY'S QUESTIONS, AND I RESPECT THAT.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS I THINK WE CAN MEASURE THROUGH DATA AND NUMBERS.

BUT WE'RE NOT DEALING NECESSARILY WITH WIDGETS HERE.

THESE ARE HUMAN LIVES.

AND SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO BE HAVING EFFECTIVE REPRESENTATION OF INDIGENT FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE HELPFUL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.

AND I THINK THE MORE OFTEN YOU CAN GET US INFORMATION ON THESE THINGS, THE BETTER.

VERY GOOD. GREAT.

THANK YOU. JIM. LET ME GO AHEAD AND MAKE SOME WRAP UP REMARKS.

I'M SPEAKING OUT LOUD.

I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING TO YOU, MR. BETHKE. BUT I'M SPEAKING TO THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE, INCLUDING US ALL HERE ON THE DAIS.

WE KNOW THAT THIS ISSUE IS A LEGAL, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

WE KNOW THAT THIS THE HAVING THE RIGHT OF INDIGENT DEFENSE ALSO MEANS THAT THE.

PROVIDERS OF THESE SERVICES ARE ENTITLED TO A FAIR AND REASONABLE.

AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT'S BEEN MADE CLEAR FROM THE COURT THAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER FROM THOSE THAT PROVIDE THE LEGAL SERVICES TO

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THOSE THAT WILL ULTIMATELY AUTHORIZE THE PAYMENT FOR THOSE SERVICES.

AND SO THOSE ARE NOT SEPARATE ISSUES.

THEY GO HAND IN HAND, WHICH MEANS, YEAH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE A CONSTITUTIONALLY ADEQUATE COMPENSATION. BUT UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE WE ADJUST FEES, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR RATE OF RETURN IS.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONLY FAIR FOR US.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST AND ASK OF MISS TINA IS HAVE WE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAC? AND ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ASK OF YOU IS WHAT INPUT, IF ANY, HAVE YOU GIVEN BOTH SO THAT WE CAN HARMONIZE THE INFORMATION, HARMONIZE THE RESTRAINTS OR THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EACH DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE? IN OTHER WORDS, CAN WE GET IT TO APPLES AND APPLES? AND CAN YOUR OFFICE OR ANOTHER OFFICE DO TO ASSIST BECAUSE THEY'RE BUSY TRYING TO REPRESENT PEOPLE AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEIR RIGHTS. BUT THEN WE'RE PUT IN A LAYER OF ADMINISTRATION SAYING, HEY, GIVE US, GIVE US THE STATS BACK.

SO THERE'S IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED HERE AND I'VE BEEN ON THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT REAL CLEAR.

I'VE BEEN ON THAT SIDE OF THE PLATTE, AND I'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE, MUCH IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE.

SO DON'T ASSUME THAT I'M NOT LISTENING AND HEARING YOU AND UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUES.

SO BACK TO YOU, TINA.

WHAT CAN YOU KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE BUDGET OFFICE AND YOUR EMPLOYEES NEED? YES. SO I THINK WE DID AS.

THE BEST WE COULD WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

I THINK ONCE ODYSSEY IS FULLY UP AND RUNNING, WE KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

BUT ONCE THAT'S FULLY UP AND RUNNING EVERYBODY'S TRAINED UP.

EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO USE IT.

EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO USE THE REPORTING WHEEL.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

WE NEED TO. THE BUDGET OFFICE WILL DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE.

TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER MOODY, THAT THE IT'S APPLES TO APPLES THE CALCULATIONS ARE DONE DIFFERENTLY.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH.

OKAY. AND I ALSO TALK TO MARK GAGER.

YOU GOT THE SHOUT OUT FROM COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, BUT NO.

SIT DOWN. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET UP THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM ANYWAY.

BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR OFFICE.

OBVIOUSLY, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND I'VE HEARD IT REMARKED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS, WHICH MEANS IT'S AN ANCIENT ANTIQUE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET UP INTO THE 21ST CENTURY.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS, BUT THEN I WILL ADMONISH, AS I'VE ADMONISHED YOU, SINCE I'VE BEEN COUNTY JUDGE, WE JUST GOT TO GET THIS SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING, AND IT'S GETTING TO A POINT WHERE I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS ODYSSEY OR WHATEVER TO OPERATE A CERTAIN WAY TO ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER INTEREST OR INFORMATION THEY NEED.

AND I'M GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE YOU JUST PUT THAT SYSTEM ON BOARD, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO TWEAK AND SEE WHAT INFORMATION THEY NEED AND WHAT THEY NEED TO PRODUCE. SO I WANT INFORMATION BCIT TO CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK.

JIM, I WANT YOU AND YOUR TEAM TO PROVIDE CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED SERVICES OF THE INDIGENT DEFENSE.

I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL GIVE YOU FEEDBACK, AND IT'S REALLY A CUP OF COFFEE CONVERSATION.

AND PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE THAT WHERE I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO'S BEEN OUT OF LAW SCHOOL NOW ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

AND SO HER FIRST JOB WAS AN ASSISTANT DA IN HARRIS.

SHE DIDN'T WENT INTO PRIVATE CRIMINAL DEFENSE, AND NOW SHE'S A PUBLIC DEFENDER.

SO GUESS WHAT? I GET TO HEAR A LOT OF PERSPECTIVE, AT LEAST FROM HARRIS COUNTY.

AND SO SOMETIMES I REALLY PUSH BACK BY SAYING, WELL, HARRIS DID THAT, DALLAS DID THAT.

KNOW WHAT BEXAR NEEDS TO DO IS WHAT'S BEST FOR BEXAR.

AND WE TAKE OUR UNIQUE TALENTS.

WE TAKE OUR UNIQUE SYSTEM.

WE TAKE OUR UNIQUE ABILITY TO COME TOGETHER, COMMUNICATE AND TRY TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SYSTEM.

I WILL JUST SHARE WITH YOU ONE OF THE PERHAPS ONE OF THE ISSUES OF WHERE THE LAW IS.

AND I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK IT'S GENERATIONAL.

I THINK THERE'S A YOUNGER GENERATION THAT'S NOT ME.

IT'S MY DAUGHTER AND THAT GENERATION AND SOME OF THE YOUNG ATTORNEYS YOU HAVE HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT AND BE INNOVATIVE WITH THAT GENERATION.

THEY WANT TO WORK STYLE OR WORK FLOW BALANCE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK, PERHAPS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ATTORNEYS.

LARRY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE IN THAT AGE GROUP.

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WE DIDN'T. WE COULD WORK SIX, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

WE COULD WORK 60, 70 HOURS A WEEK.

I DON'T THINK THIS YOUNGER GENERATION, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT'S THAT'S NOT A DIG.

IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

AND IF THAT'S THE TYPE OF WORK YOU'RE EXPECTING THEM, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY WITH CASELOADS.

SO I THINK IT TAKES MORE THAN JUST COMPENSATION.

I WILL TELL YOU FROM THE CHILDREN'S COURT SIDE, THEY WERE THE LOWEST PAID ENTIRE STATE.

I WOULD EVEN SAY WE WERE CONSTITUTIONALLY FLAWED.

BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.

WE HAD DEDICATED ATTORNEYS THAT JUST WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND THEY WANTED TO REPRESENT CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

AND SO WE NEED TO RETHINK IT.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I OFFER MY EXPERTISE, MY PERSPECTIVE, AS, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AS TO HOW WE CAN EVEN MAKE OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM A BETTER PLACE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES.

AND LIKE I SAID, I SUPPORT YOU AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE.

BUT I DO SEE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN PICK UP OUR GAME.

SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? MOTION CARRIES.

CARRY ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GETTING THERE, GUYS.

WE'RE GETTING THERE. MARK GAGER DISCUSSION.

APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE ENTERPRISE CRIMINAL INTEGRATED CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

[75. Discussion and appropriate action regarding the enterprise criminal integrated justice system (eCIJS) project]

HOW ABOUT THAT? WE'RE GOING RIGHT UP TO SACHSE PROJECT, A APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.

AMOUNT OF $402,500 FOR A PROJECT EXTENSION THROUGH JUNE OF 2024, INCLUDING ANY NECESSARY BUDGET TRANSFERS B APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.

THE AMOUNT OF 250,000 FOR 90 DAYS OF ENHANCED GO LIVE SUPPORT FROM THE CORPS PROJECT.

BEGINNING ON JULY 1ST, 2024 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, INCLUDING ANY NECESSARY BUDGET TRANSFER.

C APPROVAL AND EXTENSION TO PO 11638854, WITH COOPER CONSULTING AN AMOUNT OF 840,000 $500,001.42 FOR THE CONTINUATION OF STAFF AUGMENTATION SERVICES BEGINNING APRIL 1ST, 2024 AND ENDING AUGUST 31ST, 2024, INCLUDING ANY NECESSARY BUDGET TRANSFERS.

I PRESUME WE CAN TAKE UP ALL THESE MOTIONS AT ONCE, MR. ROBERSON. JUDGE, JUST BE CLEAR THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING A, B, AND C IN YOUR MOTION.

THAT'S I JUST READ IT OUT A, B AND C IS I MOVE TO APPROVE MOTIONS A, B AND C.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU LARRY.

THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ MR. GAGER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR OKAY.

AND I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. YOU GUYS CAN STOP ME IF YOU NEED.

I WAS HERE IN JANUARY.

I THINK I TOLD YOU GUYS THAT AT THAT TIME THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A DELAY THAT THERE WAS A COST IMPACT AND THAT WE STILL NEEDED TO CRUNCH THE NUMBERS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M COMING BACK WITH YOU GUYS.

OR FOR YOU GUYS TODAY.

I WON'T SPEND TIME ON THIS PRODUCT MIX SLIDE, BUT THIS IS JUST TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF PRODUCTS AND A LOT OF INTEGRATIONS.

I'VE SHOWED THIS TO YOU BEFORE.

ODYSSEY'S THE CORE PRODUCT.

THERE'S A LOT OF MODULES AND OTHER PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE INTEGRATING WITH.

WE DID HAVE A TRACK ONE AND A TRACK TWO.

IN FACT, TRACK TWO WAS TWO A AND TWO B YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS LISTED IN TRACK ONE.

TRACK TWO A WAS THE PUBLIC DEFENDER, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, ONE THROUGH FOUR CONSTABLES, ONE THROUGH FOUR.

CHILD SUPPORT PROBATION AND THE REMAINING TRACK TO BE IS EVERYTHING ELSE UNDER THERE IN BLACK.

AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 2200 USERS.

THAT WILL BEGIN USING ODYSSEY AND THE OTHER MODULES IN JUNE.

IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH.

WE LEVERAGED SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM NUMEROUS OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS.

WE HAVE STAFF AUGMENTATION RESOURCES.

WE ALSO HAVE DEDICATED RESOURCES FROM BCIT.

THE PREMISE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION WAS TO LEVERAGE THE OUT OF BOX OR THE NATIVE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE SYSTEM WHEREVER POSSIBLE AND TO LIMIT CUSTOMIZATIONS.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHAT WE SAW EARLIER, RIGHT? WHEN FOLKS OVER CUSTOMIZE OR OVER CONFIGURE PARTS OF THE SYSTEM, THEY START REPORTING DATA DIFFERENTLY.

RIGHT? SO JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, RIGHT NOW ALL CRIMINAL DATA IS COMING OUT OF THE MAINFRAME.

SO WE DID PROVIDE AN APPLES TO APPLES REPORT.

BUT I THINK DIFFERENT OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS THINK ABOUT DATA DIFFERENTLY.

PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THINKS ABOUT THEIR CASE MANAGEMENT BY CLIENT AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

AND THE MAC WAS REPORTING IT BY CASE.

RIGHT. WELL, THERE'S MULTIPLE CASES PER CLIENT.

SO THEN IF YOU CALCULATE IT THAT WAY, THE NUMBERS AREN'T GOING TO MATCH.

SO WE CAN WORK ON SOME DATA GOVERNANCE AND SOME DATA MANAGEMENT TO WHEN WE GO LIVE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL OF THAT DATA AS WE DO TODAY IN THE MAINFRAME, PLUS GET TO SOME OTHER LEVELS OF GRANULARITY ON CASE TYPES AND SUB CASE TYPES.

WE DID IDENTIFY CHANGE CHAMPIONS IN EACH OFFICER DEPARTMENT.

I WON'T GO THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL.

THIS IS THE PROJECT SCHEDULE AS OF TODAY.

MOVING FORWARD.

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THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE'RE STILL TRAINING.

WE'RE STILL TESTING.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A WHILE.

WE'RE GOING TO ADD IN A MOCK GO LIVE OR A MOCK CUTOVER TO ENSURE WE'RE PREPARED FOR GO LIVE.

THE GO LIVE DATE WILL OR CUT OVER PROCESS WILL START MAY 29TH.

IT'LL GO THROUGH JUNE 2ND.

WE'LL GO LIVE JUNE 3RD.

SO IT'S ABOUT A FIVE DAY PERIOD WHERE THE LEGACY SYSTEM WILL BE TAKEN OFFLINE.

WE'LL MIGRATE DATA AND THEN MOVE OVER TO THE NEW SYSTEM.

THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 90 DAYS OF POST GO LIVE SUPPORT AND OPERATIONAL TRANSITION RIGHT NOW BUSINESS PROCESS VALIDATIONS.

AND THESE NUMBERS ARE FLUID BECAUSE THEY CHANGE DAILY.

THIS IS AS A REPORT AS OF LAST THURSDAY, 92% OF ALL BUSINESS PROCESS VALIDATIONS ARE DONE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE MARCH.

100% PRIORITY ONE REPORTS IS THAT 82% WILL HAVE ALL OF THOSE DONE BY THE END OF APRIL.

PRIORITY ONE FORMS ARE AT 86%.

WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT DONE BY THE END OF APRIL.

ALL OF OUR PRIORITY INTEGRATIONS ARE DONE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE CSS INTEGRATION THAT WILL BE DONE BY THE END OF APRIL.

AND THEN THE CHARGING LANGUAGES WAS A BIG ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, THE AVERAGE THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO AVERAGE 50 PER WEEK, AND THAT WOULD GET THEM THE DA'S OFFICE TO 700.

THEY ARE BEHIND RIGHT NOW.

WE NEED TO AVERAGE 88 PER WEEK TO GET TO THE END.

THE IDEA IS THOUGH, WE'RE GOING LIVE AND THEY KNOW IT.

SO IF WE ONLY FINISH 500 OF THE 700, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO LIVE WITH THE 500.

SO WE'RE PRESSING WE'RE MONITORING.

AS RECENT AS FRIDAY, YOU DID COMPLETE A LOT.

SO THEY'RE ACTIVELY WORKING IT.

IT'S A LITTLE SLOWER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.

SOME WEEKS ARE MUCH BETTER THAN OTHERS.

I THINK THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE SLOWER, BUT BUT WE'RE MONITORING, AND THEY KNOW AND EVERYBODY'S AWARE WE'RE GOING TO GO LIVE, SO.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS. THEY'RE STILL TESTING, TRAINING, MOCK GO LIVE POST GO LIVE SUPPORT.

I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THIS IN DETAIL.

WE'RE FOCUSED ON TRAINING THE GO LIVE OVERDUE OVER OVERVIEW.

IT'S JUST REALLY SAYING THAT THERE IS A CUT OVER.

THIS WILL TAKE THE SYSTEM OFFLINE.

WE'LL HAVE AN HOUR BY HOUR PLAN.

WE'LL MONITOR IT CLOSELY.

AND THEN FOR ON ON SITES THAT WE'LL HAVE ON SITE SUPPORT, WE'LL HAVE REMOTE SUPPORT.

AND AT THE MINIMUM YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS BELOW.

WE'LL HAVE 20 TYLER RESOURCES HERE.

WE'LL HAVE 24 BCIT RESOURCES HERE.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ALSO ON THE CORE SUPPORT TEAM WHEN WE GO LIVE.

SO AS PART OF OUR MOTIONS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO REREAD THEM HERE.

WE MADE A MOTION. OKAY.

GOOD DEAL. SO THERE'S THE MOTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. I TRIED TO GET THROUGH AS FAST AS I COULD.

THAT WAS GOOD. COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. COMMISSIONER MOODY.

JUST ONE QUESTION.

WITH REGARD TO THE THE CONTRACTS FOR THE 90 DAYS OF SUPPORT.

AND I THINK MY STAFF REACHED OUT TO YOU ABOUT THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THE GO LIVE, GO FLAWLESSLY, AND WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED ALL THAT, DO WE HAVE OFF RAMPS IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING TO, TO PAY FOR THAT FUNDING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SO THE, THE 402,500.

NO. BECAUSE THAT'S JUST FOR THE EXTENSION.

THE 250,000 IS FOR THE 90 DAYS POST GO LIVE SUPPORT WITH TYLER.

AND THAT'S ALREADY A DISCOUNTED KIND OF NEGOTIATED RATE THAT'S MUCH LOWER.

IT IS A FIXED FEE.

AND THERE'S NOT REALLY AN OUT, BUT I WOULDN'T EXPECT IT BASED ON THE PREVIOUS GO LIVE THAT WE HAD WE ACTUALLY LEVERAGED TYLER SUPPORT BECAUSE, REMEMBER, WE HAD MULTIPLE PHASES FOR WELL OVER 90 DAYS ON THAT ON THAT PREVIOUS GO LIVE.

SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE'LL NEED THEM AT LEAST FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE, BUT THAT WAS A NEGOTIATED RATE TO KIND OF GET IT DOWN FOR 90 DAYS OF SUPPORT.

THE STAFF AUGMENTATION HOURS IS ABOUT 7800 HOURS.

THAT'S FOR THE $840,000 PIECE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PAY BY THE HOUR FOR IF WE DIDN'T NEED ALL OF THAT.

TECHNICALLY, WE DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL OF THAT AGAIN.

I STILL EXPECT THAT WE WILL NEED TO DO IT, BUT WE COULD GET OUT OF USING ALL OF THOSE HOURS IF WE NEEDED TO.

OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT.

YEP. ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE 70 5ABC ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL ARE DONE.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS. ITEM 76, DISCUSSION.

[76. Discussion and appropriate action regarding the renewal or placement of policies to the following firms to provide Bexar County with the purchase of General Liability, Public Officials Liability, Law Enforcement Liability, Business Auto Liability, Employment Practices Liability, Excess Liability, Crime, and Workers' Compensation excess coverage for a one-year period beginning April 1, 2024 and ending March 31, 2025 for a combined annual premium amount of $4,007,588 and providing for three additional one-year renewal options. The renewal recommendations include]

APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING THE RENEWAL PLACEMENT OF POLICIES TO THE FOLLOWING FIRMS TO PROVIDE BEXAR COUNTY WITH THE PURCHASE OF GENERAL LIABILITY, PUBLIC OFFICIALS LIABILITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY, BUSINESS AUTO LIABILITY, EMPLOYMENT PRACTICES, LIABILITY, EXCESS LIABILITY, CRIME, AND WORKERS COMPENSATION.

EXCESS COVERAGE FOR ONE YEAR PERIOD BEGINNING APRIL 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING MARCH 31ST, 2025, FOR THE COMBINED ANNUAL PREMIUM AMOUNT OF 4,000,705 $88 AND PROVIDING FOR THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS.

THE RENEWAL RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE, AS STATED THEREIN, ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU. THIS ITEM, REQUESTING COURT'S APPROVAL OF THE RENEWAL AND OR AWARD OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT LINES OF INSURANCE WE HAVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PROPERTY INSURANCE.

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WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR.

JUST SOME QUICK HIGHLIGHTS.

THE SELF-INSURED RETENTION IS IS STAYING THE SAME.

THAT'S WHAT IS, IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, OUR DEDUCTIBLE.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EXCESS WORKERS COMPENSATION, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE, THE DEDUCTIBLE FROM 850,000 TO 1 MILLION FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE OUR CLAIMS ARE COMING IN AT REALLY GOOD LEVELS.

WE IMPLEMENTED THAT 504 NETWORK LAST YEAR.

SO WE'RE SEEING SOME GOOD IMPROVEMENT IN THE CLAIMS COST.

AND THAT IS REDUCING OUR PREMIUM SLIGHTLY.

THE PREMIUMS ARE GOING UP BY ABOUT 7%.

WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING 3.7 MILLION.

IT WILL BE 4 MILLION IF APPROVED BY COURT.

AND OUR BUDGET FOR INSURANCE PREMIUMS IS 5.2 MILLION.

AND AS I NOTED EARLIER, PROPERTY INSURANCE WILL COME BACK TO THE COURT.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT NUMBER WILL COME BACK AND WE'LL STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET OF 5.2 MILLION.

AND THAT IS THE END OF THE QUICK PRESENTATION.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'M SO MOVED.

SECOND. WELL, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MOODY.

TINA, THE THE SLIDE WITH THE BUDGET.

OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROPERTY INSURANCE YET, BUT HOW ARE WE TRACKING TOWARDS THE OVERALL BUDGET NUMBER? DO WE ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER BUDGET? OVER BUDGET? SO I'M HOPING WE'LL BE RIGHT AT BUDGET BECAUSE WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING ABOUT 1 MILLION FOR PROPERTY INSURANCE.

SO WE HAVE ANOTHER 1.2 TO SPEND.

OKAY. SO I'M HOPING WE'LL BE RIGHT ON IT.

GREAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

COMMISSIONER CLAY-FLORES WHO'S WHO'S OUR CURRENT? IS IT THESE COVERAGES BROKEN WITH DIFFERENT CARRIERS? YES. SO WE HAVE SAFETY NATIONAL RIGHT NOW FOR THE GENERAL LIABILITY AND EXCESS WORKERS COMPENSATION.

WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT TO.

PRINCETON. AND ON OUR WORKERS COMPENSATION EXCESS, WE HAVE SAFETY NATIONAL.

AND WE'RE CHANGING THAT ONE TO MIDWEST.

OKAY. AND ARE WE GETTING WHAT'S THE COVERAGE THAT COVERS OUR LAWSUITS? GENERAL LIABILITY.

THE GENERAL LIABILITY IS JUST THE LAWSUITS THAT LARRY WILL BRING.

WHICH WHO ARE WE GOING? OH, THAT WILL BE PRINCETON.

PRINCETON? YES. WE HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP THAN WE DID WITH OUR PREVIOUS COVERAGE WITH SAFETY NATIONAL.

YES. YEAH. I THINK YEAH.

WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T LIKE THEIR BID THIS TIME.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOODY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. 77 DISCUSSION DIRECTION, COUNTY STAFF TO BRING RECOMMENDATION FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1.2 COMMISSIONERS COURT AGENDA

[77. Discussion and direction to county staff to bring recommendations for improvements to Administrative Policy 1.2 (Commissioners Court Agenda Process) at an upcoming Commissioners Court work session to ensure that Commissioners Court agenda-setting practices remain consistent with Texas law, to include recommendations for the adoption of reasonable procedures for placing items on the court's agenda which are also consistent with applicable law.]

PROCESS AT AN UPCOMING COMMISSIONERS COURT WORK SESSION TO ENSURE THAT COMMISSIONERS COURT AGENDA SETTING PROCESS REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH TEXAS LAW.

TO INCLUDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE ADOPTION OF REASONABLE PROCEDURES FOR PLACING ITEMS ON THE COURSE AGENDA, WHICH ARE ALSO CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE LAW.

THANK YOU JUDGE. THANK YOU JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS. AS PART OF SOME BACKGROUND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY 1.2, WHICH GOVERNS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AGENDA PROCESS, WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2005.

WITH THIS ITEM, STAFF WILL REVISIT THE POLICY TO ENSURE THAT BOTH THE PROCEDURAL RULES AND THE DECORUM BY WHICH ITEMS ARE PLACED ON THE AGENDA COMPLIES WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

STAFF IS THEREFORE REQUESTING DIRECTION TO BRING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY.

1.2 AT AN UPCOMING COMMISSIONERS COURT WORK SESSION TO ENSURE THAT BOTH THE AGENDA SETTING PRACTICES REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH TEXAS LAW AND TO INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ADOPTION OF REASONABLE PROCEDURES FOR PLACING ITEMS ON THE COURT'S AGENDA, WHICH ARE ALSO CONSISTENT WITH WITH THE APPLICABLE LAWS.

IS THERE A MOTION IN THIS DIRECTION? OH, DIRECTION. JUST DIRECTION.

SO QUESTION.

SO. SO, THOMAS YOU SAID THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY CORRECT WAS HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2005.

THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING.